/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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>>57856693

Reminder: The f stands for friendly

>>57856754
what are you trying to say by this "post"?

>when a project on git doesn't list dependencies in the readme
seriously, why?

>>57856916
Any competent developer working on a project worth taking seriously will list all the dependence.

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Can someone help me please, i am installing raspbian on my raspberry pi 2 that i was gifted and i got it to boot and i logged in with the default password, and now i have no idea where to go from here. I have only used Ubuntu in the past so my knowledge is minimal to none. Any help is appreciated guys. Having trouble finding any guides past getting it to boot.

>>57857466
Also i am not looking for any shortcuts, thats why i installed minimal raspbian. I am hoping to learn the process.

>>57857466
It did boot succesfully, though. You've installed it.

Now you need to install xorg and a window manager.

>>57857496
Thank you i will research these now and report back

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Who else /fedora/?

>>57857483
>not looking for any shortcuts
>wants to get his hand held.

Make up your mind.

>>57857552
I just need to learn the process from the ground up, i am not so sure how i would do that without some help.
Its this or i never into linux

>>57856831
I think he's saying we should all have sweaty man-sex

I'm using Kubuntu on a t420s, and whenever I try to watch shit on YouTube it becomes really laggy if I chose any res over 480p - I dual boot windows though and it works fine there.

I use Firefox on both - is that the problem or is it Kubuntu? Anyone had this issue before?

>>57857607
What are you looking to use it for, anon?

>>57857732
BSD have sudo too.

>>57857668
Mostly to learn how to install and use linux as i already have a laptop but maybe i will try to do some programming on it since there are "no distractions". I was focused on learning c++ but i dont know how that would work on linux if at all. So probably i will want a light browser for troubleshooting and tools to work on programming.

>>57857732
>No attempt even made to make it wrap around the cup
Nice editing.
Also, why the hell do you know about this.
Do you not only use joybook, but also follow the "Only Linux User Can Understand It" page?
Jesus christ.

>>57857752
But they don't have apt-get

>>57857782
>joybook
I meant to say "goybook".

>>57857788
>implying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD

>>57857732
looks like fucking shit imho

unixstickers has good looking mugs, albeit very little of them

I have a problem. I get this when updating my system.

Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.3.0-6-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.3.0-6-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.3.0-6-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.3.0-6-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
Found MS-DOS 5.x/6.x/Win3.1 on /dev/sda2

But I cannot find it when I run this.

mount | grep sda2

And all partitions are mounted.

>>57857753
But python isn't programming.

>>57857855
I mean the Win3.1 partition.

>>57857839
https://www.unixstickers.com/cups-and-mugs
Too bad i only drink mountain dew.

>>57857876
>https://www.unixstickers.com/cups-and-mugs
>no slackware mug
dropped

>>57857914
Slackware users go by the riverside, pick the clay into their wicker baskets, form their mugs by hand and bake in a homemade rocket stove.

The true UX™ way

>>57857496
Well i tryed
apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
And it just have me errors, how would i install anything without having connected to the internet? Which i don't know how to do yet.

>>57857942
no that would be people who write their own software

>>57857980
Oh ethernet got it

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Need some help, I want to ditch Windows, but I need my USB WiFI dongle working. I can figure out the rest

I have the driver on my install usb, all it needs is to be make then

sudo install make

then

modprobe mt7662u_sta

. But when I enter the directory and run make, it doesn't make. There is no clear error message at all. Not sure how I can work around this. Maybe I need GCC? But I can't get it because no internet. I tried making it in a Ubuntu VM and transferring it to my usb, but I have a feeling it won't work

>>57858045
>no internet
just plug in an ethernet cable jfc

>>57858059
It would be more cost effective to pay Linus Torvalds to come to my house and solve the problem himself than wire cable to the modem.

>installing and it freezes
>reboot
>asks for user/password which were never set
>need to sit through second installation
ubuntu just works guys

>>57858045
What are you trying to install? It should work out of the box on most distros. Stay away from Debian if you only have wifi.

>>57858073
>wire the cable to the modem
what?
Do you no have a normal router with ports for ethernet cables, and an ethernet port on the laptop?

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>>57857466
>>57857496
Wow this is exciting, thanks for the kickstart. Got the gui working.

>>57858364
Any suggestions for choosing a window manager? Should i be looking for something light weight or will any do? Thanks for the help guys.

>>57858045
>>57858073
I swear to me god you people have really weird fucking living conditions.

>sudo install make
The other way around buddy.
sudo make install

> Maybe I need GCC?
You need GCC and whatever libraries are necessary to build it.

>I tried making it in a Ubuntu VM and transferring it to my usb, but I have a feeling it won't work.
It will work.
Hell you can build this shit on a Windows machine with properly set up cygwin.


Here, I've compiled it and built a package for you
https://jkisielewicz.fedorapeople.org/for_anon/netgear_7-1_amd64.deb

>>57858399
Openbox is a decent choice to start with.

What's the best distro for use in desert terrain? I need high security and something that doesn't require your internet to not be complete shit.
It also shouldn't have any American services.

So I just installed arch.
What's a really basic, easily configurable Desktop environment? I just want a few indicators like battery, wifi and have task bar shortcuts. That's literally it

>>57858497
also jesus christ display managers are fucking annoying

>>57858529
Just use startx.

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>>57858098
Ok so I guess it doesn't ask for password and the documentation page is useless like most I end up on and I can't log in
I don't know the IP so I can't even try from browser unless I want to install a whole DHCP server shit

nothing ever just works

>>57858045
>>57858438
Forgot to mention, I assumed you're running a debian based distro so i made a debian based package.

What I would advice you to do first is to install the package in a VM installation. With VirtualBox and USB passthrough you should be able to test the device as well, though I'm not 100% sure.

Basically I would try to see if the package installs properly and doesn't throw any errors.
Once it's installed, the kernel module (mt7662u_sta.ko) is in /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/


HOWEVER

If it doesn't work, what you'll need to do is boot up the distribution you're using in a VM, do the compilation there and then generate a .deb package with checkinstall

https://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall

I'm linking debian wiki because ubuntu documentation doesn't even mention the possibility of generating the package without installing.

what is a very lightweight USB distro that comes with the essentials like GCC, GPG, a browser like midori, etc? I want to use it to install gentoo.

>>57858541
yeah, I guess I'm going to go that way but it bothers me not being able to set one up

>>57858561
tahrpuppy

>>57858561
why not install it directly?

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>>57858438
Arigatou sempai!

>>57858586
My autism wants me to use as little RAM as possible dedicated to the booted distro so I can save more RAM for compiling.

>>57858606
If you have really low ram then use clang for the packages it can compile. It takes up a lot less of it.
Or you just want to dedicate more ram to the compiler? It won't change much if you have a shit CPU.
The gentoo "live cd" is probably less demanding than about anything else but it doesn't have clang pre-installed.

>>57858561
Systemrescuecd

>>57858680
Funny, I tried that one already and it gave me some weird error about the .asc not being a detached signature despite giving back the fingerprint and it matched on the website. You think I should reburn the ISO or I should just ignore it next time it comes up?

If I make install a program that doesn't have a make uninstall option, when it is updated can I make install the new one and it will replace the old one? Or will there be conflicts?

Which is the oldest and still maintained kernel version?

>>57858821
4.4 I think. It's the extended support version of the kernel.

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>>57856693
hi anons, i may be messing up, not sure.
i just installed arch and am doing post install wiki and am working on the dnscrypt-proxy.

i followed along and did all that it says, but my internet browser only works if my resolve.conf is using ip 192.... not the 127.
i can ping either way.


per wiki here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DNSCrypt#Installation

is it ok that i am using the 192 ip in my resolv.conf

*pic kinda related

>>57858828
Nah. I bet there is a 2.6.x with backported patches.

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>>57858460
Oh so apt-get install xorg openbox is a desktop environment? I thought it was just xorg. So from here i just need to install the stuff i need like a browser/ide? Is there any drivers i need first or other gui packages. Sorry i am completely new to linux. Actually enjoying it so far.

>>57858844
Why would you even want to use 2.6.x in the first place?

>>57858855
Drivers are included in the kernel, it's the beauty of Linux. I would install feh if you want to set a background image. feh --bg-fill /path/to/wallpaper.jpg/png/whatever

Actuallly, just read up on openbox on the arch wiki. It will have a lot of useful info.

>>57858896
Actually i use 2.6 on 2 phones. Also experiment.

>>57858821
RHEL 6.8. 2.6.32-642.

>>57858831
ok read i dont need to use 127 less im running dnsserver

https://askubuntu.com/questions/627899/nameserver-127-0-1-1-in-resolv-conf-wont-go-away

alright set to 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
for now. hope this is ok

well still have internet, dnsrypt is active.

any anon want to comment please feel free 0.o

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Is there a command line text editor that won't make me want to rm -rf
I just need to change the fucking IP but it keeps not taking input then not taking input for just numbers, then deleting a entire line of shit, then not exiting like normal and I need to reboot
whoever designed vi is a fucking sadist

>>57859133
triggered?

>>57859133
download vim
type 'vimtutor'
it only takes a few minutes to learn to not be a complete shitter.

>>57859133
alias vi='vim'

>>57859133
lol linux

>>57859113
ok so if im going to use tor eventually . do i need to bother with the dnscrypt? are they both the same

>>57859153
>>57859155
you think I have vim if I cant get to the internet cause I can't edit my IP address?
why does doing anything on linux spiral into an error chain

>>57859226
In vi, use hjkl to move around. i to edit. Navigate to the line the IP address is on, and press A, then backspace till it's gone and write in your new IP. It's not that hard.

>>57859133
screw vi, nano that shit nigger

>>57857855
post lsblk

>>57858497
fluxbox+plank+tint2+conky

>>57858831
use unbound
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DNSCrypt#Example:_configuration_for_Unbound

>>57859467

$lsblk 
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM    SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0    1.8T  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0    100M  0 part 
└─sda2   8:2    0    1.8T  0 part 
sdb      8:16   0    1.8T  0 disk 
├─sdb1   8:17   0 1002.3G  0 part /media/jason/81c4b6bb-60ab-47c9-85aa-2e5446cdafe8
├─sdb2   8:18   0  683.4G  0 part /media/jason/My Media
└─sdb3   8:19   0  177.3G  0 part /media/jason/More Media
sdc      8:32   0  465.8G  0 disk 
├─sdc1   8:33   0  186.3G  0 part /media/jason/John
├─sdc2   8:34   0   32.2G  0 part /media/jason/7ebd3547-7d2b-4d58-a52b-4f7968d14050
├─sdc3   8:35   0  218.6G  0 part /media/jason/My Stuff
├─sdc4   8:36   0      1K  0 part 
├─sdc5   8:37   0    7.5G  0 part 
└─sdc6   8:38   0   21.1G  0 part /media/jason/2253b90a-2608-4939-917d-85e1dbcbeebb
sdd      8:48   0  298.1G  0 disk 
├─sdd1   8:49   0  292.2G  0 part /
├─sdd2   8:50   0      1K  0 part 
└─sdd5   8:53   0      6G  0 part [SWAP]
sde      8:64   1     15G  0 disk 
└─sde1   8:65   1     15G  0 part /media/jason/707B-A3DF
sr0     11:0    1   1024M  0 rom

>>57859766
/dev/sda2 isn't mounted though.

>>57859809
It is added to my GRUB menu for no reason, I just wanted to know why. it is only a 100 megabyte partition for GRUB, but why add it as a bootable partition?

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>>57859824
Some left over Windows partition... Or what is left of it.

>>57859823
>It is added to my GRUB menu for no reason
os-prober seems to think there is an OS there.

I have this question assigned for homework and I don't know how to take the output and get the answer. Any ideas?

Based on the output of 

systemctl status network.service

is the network service a fully blown systemd service or does it still use the 'old' SysV scripts?

Running on CentOS 7

i have an old ps3 with a dead bluray drive should install linux or something *nix based or keep it alive

>>57859972
Seriously nigga.

Post the output first, but read it carefully when you do.

>>57860043
Yeah im dumb I found the answer anyways

how do I use terminal commands on files named with non-Latin letters like cyrillics etc.? Any way to indicate them by number instead of typing their name?

>>57860485
Use an input method for cyrillic and switch to it when you need to play with cyrillic files.

>>57860542
I was trying to get around that. Same with Jap letters etc. Would be nice if there was something that numbered the files and allowed me to select them that way

Anyone know WTF is going on with my speakers? They *just* started doing this, and I have no idea why...

https://2.sendvid.com/d5gmhys1.mp4

as a sidenote: it's fucking 2016 and /g/ doesn't allow 2MiB mp4s

Is it possible to get a live Linux going on a Surface 3? I've tried Ubuntu 15.04, 15.10, 16.04, 16.10, Fedora 25, OpenSUSE, Debian testing, and Debian stable and NOTHING will get to a desktop. Black screens on EVERY SINGLE ISO after the initial boot sequence.

Can't Ctrl Alt Fx to get a tty. Half the time the keyboard doesn't even work.

>>57856717
>drumbeat jingle

i died, RIP

I needed a voiceover for a video on a site I'm working on to try to start a business and paid this professional voice british guy to do a few videos, it was very cheap compared to what I thought it was going to cost. Anyway, he goes by word count and I had a few hundred words not used.

I said it was an unrelated project, and got him to say the GNU/Linux interject copypasta. I just checked my inbox, and he actually recorded it.

Who wants to hear?

Just installed a new distro, but it didn't give me the option to partition my drive. Now it's stuck taking up half of the drive along with the old distro that I want to get rid of. How do I delete the old distro and add its partition memory back to my current one?

>>57860957
Only if he sounds exactly like Richard Stallman

>>57860985
Just use gparted (or parted for terminal only). Unlike most graphical interfaces in Linux gparted is actually really intuitive. Just delete your old partition and extend the one you're using and hit apply and let it work

>>57860957
Please link it anon

What happened to the guy that was making a rufus clone for linux? Did he ever finish it?

>>57860957
>Who wants to hear?
Do you really have to ask?

>>57861113
>dd exists

>>57861113
if you format the drive in a special way I've seen this done by just dumping the contents of the iso to the flash drive

>>57859133
>I just need to change the fucking IP
Why do you need to change the ip? Are you using static routing? Why aren't you using dhcp anon?

>>57858555
$ip addr

Is Crux a dead project? Will 3.3 ever be released?

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Any OpenShift guys on here? Just stood it up on my CentOS7 desktop, added a project, then when I go to log into it on the command line I get this:

oc project pythontest

error: open /opt/openshift-origin-v1.2/openshift.local.config/master/admin.kubeconfig: permission denied

>>57861450
Do it as super user

>>57861512

hrmph... shouldn't I be able to do this as a normal user?

>>57861537
Change the permissions of /opt/openshift-origin-v1.2/ I suppose.

>dual monitors
>boot up
>both monitors working
>screen goes blank and turns on again (I think this is the GPU starting)
>display only on one, second one says no signal
>start xorg
>xrandr shows both connected
>can move mouse across
>monitor is still black
What do?

>>57861552
this sudo chmod +x or 777 or w/e

>>57861604
you're gonna need to post your video card. lspci in a terminal if you didn't know.

if nvidia, the freetard drivers suck, they have never worked properly for me.

if amd,
>amd
>linux

for intel you should be able to consult any xorg docs

I noticed how unpopular Linux is by using Chegg, yes Chegg. If you post looking for a Linux tutor, you are lucky to get a response. As soon as you post something involving high level programming languages, you are bombarded with people from India happy to take your money.
I'm in the US and part of my Computer Science curriculum is an Intro course to Unix. Do people on that side of the world not use Unix-based distros?

>>57861738
I'm not trying to pretend that linux is mainstream but you can't do this because of how the general populace knows to at least try for these sort of positions or jobs because they all want to be that one guy copypasting code to escape their other shit job market. This is why "web developer" has lost all meaning, we're currently seeing people also do this for "full stack", not yet for MVC or the like so I can still win points with that.

>>57859223
No idea if they've changed this, but according to the Tor spec basically what happens is your DNS request is forwarded to the exit node you're using and that node then does the DNS lookup for you https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/tor-spec.txt?id=f9e111ead769d48441d99b52039ef0ccbd3f2c62#n1475

DNSCrypt is a DNSCurve implementation that uses TCP so you can tunnel it through Tor though you need a socks proxy to do so: http://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/1503/dnssec-dnscrypt-over-tor

This all depends what your goal is. If you set up your own DNS server (or register for a public one) and it's got your identifying marks all over it pretty pointless in then tunneling dns req to it via just letting Tor handle it as it usually does with a remote DNS lookup.

Just install this and use as advertised https://subgraph.com/sgos/

>>57856693
Whats the Linux equivalent of Microsoft Mathematics?

Microsoft Math was probably the most impressive software ever made by MS

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>>57861777

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Does anyone know anything about this close button thing that shows up in the pic related KDE desktop grid?

>>57861861
@KDEShill

>>57861794
Sagemath or Mathematica http://www.sagemath.org/

I'm on a new install of arch, and I can't seem to get audio to work properly.

I have configured alsa correctly (I think) and when I run

 speaker test -c -2 

I hear static coming from both speakers/sides of my headphones.
Problem is that I'm not actually hearing any audio from firefox. Is there any way to fix this?
The only things I have muted in alsamixer are some mic sliders. My PCM is on full, but it doesn't even have a mute/unmute icon.

>>57857536
Fedora fag here too since F 25 is rolling Wayland and 'just works' as a workstation so I can reverse shit and trace with bcc-utils.

It's the only major distro I know of with sandbox middleware like SELinux shipped on by default to prevent a pdf reader from blowing out your /home/ directory and all your passwords with it.

There's also this https://kororaproject.org/ which is apparently Fedora + proprietary AIDS filled repos

>>57862069
http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/146297

Use asoundconf package I had the same problem with Arch, no sound.

>>57862115
thanks, I actually just figured out what the issue was.
Apparently since 2 months ago firefox nightly requires pulseaudio, and I was only using alsa.
Installed pulseaudio and everything is working fine.

Holy damn. Faggots were pushing the "Le Mint is like Windows, Mint is for Windows users making the switch" and the fact that their site got hacked once made me dismiss it for a long time as shit (or rather, I wasn't interested at all, I don't usually shitpost consciously). But it's actually comfy, fast and pretty.

Seriously, I just installed it today and I'm enjoying it so much. Not to mention it's actually faster on this shitty Laptop than the so-called light desktop environment LXDE, what a piece of crap.

I would recommend it for other people to try it out.

>>57862083
I'm happy with Fedora repos myself. The only thing that I have to compile from source is RetroArch and it's no big deal.

>>57862523
babbys first distro

>>57856693
>>57856717
Source?

Been trying to transition more towards Linux.

I've got two problems though. For starters im not entirely sure how to install the AMD Drivers for my R9 290 and secondly I want to be able to play Eve Online still since that's the only game I really seem to play these days.

Would anyone have a tutorial for getting either one set up? I've tried multiple times to get both set up correctly but there's always some major fuckup.

>>57862961
I should note that I run Debian Jessie.

>>57856693
Hi /g/, I've scoured tons of forums all over the place trying to fix this issue, but I can't seem to find an answer.

I'm running Xubuntu 16.04 LTS. I'm trying to do a GPU passthrough and it's being a total bitch.

At first I couldn't get vfio-pci OR pci-stub to work, but eventually I got pci-stub to actually work for my GPU, which is an AMD R7 370

I finally got pci-stub to work, and just use a script to unbind pci-stub from the GPU and bind to vfio with a script. (it's complicated but it's the only way I could get it to work)

When I run my VM with qemu, I get this error:

qemu-system-x86_64: vfio: Unable to power on device, stuck in D3

It repeats 4 times. I tried using disable_idle_d3=1 in vfio options, but it doesn't work.

Why is it stuck in D3 mode? Is there a way to force it out of D3 mode?

when I run lspci -nnk, my GPU says the Kernel module is radeon. I've tried my best to disable the radeon module, including:

/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and doing: blacklist radeon and blacklist fglrx (just in case)
radeon.blacklist=yes in grub
modprobe.blacklist=radeon in grub
install radeon /bin/false in blacklist file
/etc/modules-load.d/blacklist.conf and doing blacklist radeon blacklist fglrx
/etc/modprobe.d/00-radeon.conf and doing blacklist radeon (in case it was just a parsing issue)

but none of those things worked (and yes, I ran sudo update-grub, sudo update-grub2, and sudo update-initramfs -u respectively.

What is even weirder is that when I run dmesg | grep pci-stub, I get a message saying it's claimed, but my GPU is still on and was being used by the OS. I had to force enable the onboard graphics to be used to get it to stop doing that .-.

Would anyone be willing to try to help me? I'll post more info if needed

>>57863016
Just buy windows if you want GAYMAN
Run linux in a VM to shitpost here

This is also much easier to do on Arch linux (passthru GPU w/KVM) than it is Ubuntu because of all the modifications and shit they've done.

>>57863120
I obviously wouldn't have invested this much time if I was looking for a quick and easy solution (aka, don't want windows as my main OS)

Unless there are specific tools or things in Arch linux that would help me with the D3 power issue then idk why switching would help?

>>57863120
>>57863130
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1549601#p1549601
Plus people in Arch have this problem too sometimes and I couldn't find an answer for it as well besides the default disable_idle_d3=1

>>57863120
please stop posting

hey guys i installed debian the other day
i heard from a friend that you can make any linux into any other kind of linux without having to delete everything
how can i update my debian to arch?

>>57863726
well it's just linux with different packages/PM. it is possible, look into installing pacman on another system I guess, it is not advised to do it this way, it's probably easier to back up important data and then do a fresh instal as the point of arch is to be lightweight and customisable

>>57863922
oops.
yeah having 2 PM is not a good idea, so youd presumable want to uninstall debians PM

>>57863922
why would I install pacman lol i usually just play pacman online on my browser or in an arcade no need to install anything haha

>>57863922
did you mean GNU/Linux?

>>57864068
I've dealt with so much idocy on this general that you managed to trigger me for a second. Well done

how to uninstall systemd I'm on arch

>>57864131
sudo apt-get update -R /*

>>57864150
>apt
>>57864131
http://systemd-free.org/install.php

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>>57864131
>systemd meme
>arch meme

>>57864131
>using arch
>falling for the systemd is bad meme
typical tech illiterate arch user

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Is there any way to get the icons in the red area larger?

Mint 18, XFCE, Pale Meme

>>57864357
>image.jpg

How to change my prompt in zsh?

what is the best antivirus for linux

>>57864429
Install oh-my-zsh from the AUR. It has some pretty prompt themes builtin.

>>57864357
gimp -> zoom

>>57864492

I mean, when I'm browsing for a file to upload to 4chin, is there a way to get those icons larger by default so I can tell which file is which before I upload it?

The file preview is nice and big but I usually pick the wrong file once or twice because the initial icon is so small and it hard to tell the difference.

>>57864357
Yes, install K"DE" also known as the KFilePicker
or just use a patched version of firefox that uses the Kdialog through kmozillahelper

>>57864429
$ vim ~/.zshrc
PROMPT=....
RPROMPT=....

Simple Examples:
http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Intro/intro_14.html

Prompt Expansions:
http://zsh.sourceforge.net/Doc/Release/Prompt-Expansion.html

>>57864477
I don't get why so many people shill for oh-my-clusterfuck. What am I missing out on besides having a bunch of junk I'll never use?

>>57864131
I don't recommend replacing systemd on Arch, 'cause many package uses systemd.
You have to patch (or create your own) init script in order to make it working with system init other than systemd.
If you're going to use system init other than systemd, you better stick with other distro that doesn't use systemd by default.

Anyone else here use wpa_supplicant to connect to their wifi rather than wicd or networkmanager? You need it anyways for WPA/WPA2 and you can use a simple terminal program or the gui program it comes with to connect just as easily as wicd or networkmanager can.

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thoughts on linux mint?

Is it good or bad idea using this repos for Debian?

http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/mpv

Any bash pros here?
It shouldn't take long to learn it if I already know a programming language, right?
What features does it have? Control flow, variables and some other basic stuff?

>>57865076
check out the bashhackers wiki

>>57865055
Just compile it yourself. If you check mpv's GitHub they have scripts that automatically compile it without fucking around with files or anything.

linux

mint

systemd

shite

lightweight

>>57865714
>>57865767
you'll never break even with effort like this

>>57857466
Ubuntu-mate is better. The only experience I've had with rpi is with this distro and its always worked.

What's the best music player that's not cli

Are ther any other cli music players besides cmus ?

>>57865937
moc, ncmpcpp or just mpv

>>57865920
The one I'm using.

>>57865955
le funny answer

@57865967
>le
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/r/9k
>>>/r/gaming
>>>/r/lgbt

>>57865967
stupid question -> stupid answer

>>57864477
>pretty prompt
This kind of ricing is disgusting.

>>57866096
the actual bad thing is
>install zsh because it's cool
>can't even change a variable or reading a manpage
>other faggot recommends to install more bloat in order to change a variable

How do I backup the root partition of my ubuntu server? Which folders can be ignored and which do I need to backup to get to as close as possible to my current setup? I'm still a tard when it comes to linux so it needs to be somewhat retard proof.

>>57862961
try this
EVE Launcher for Linux
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482663

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>>57866189
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

57866223
no

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>>57866223
Without the kernel nothing else is loaded.

>>57866237
Without GRUB nothing else is loaded.

>>57866249
You dont need grub
>lilo
>syslinux
>busybox

>>57866237
>>57866249
>nitpicking
the one who creates the os, names it, which was richard stallman in 1983
adding software to it doesn't change the name

>>57866273
You don't need Linux
>kfreebsd
>hurd

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>>57866304
>hurd

Is Arch a meme?

Real question though: are the people maintaining the stuff in AUR just regular users? Does that mean if a program is updated, the maintainer has to manually upload it to the AUR?

>>57866008
>57865967
sorry meant >>57865967

>>57866461
No.
Yes. Yes

>>57866461
arch is a meme because it sells itself as simple and lightweight while it really is the opposite
that said, arch is a nice distribution, you just need to ignore community memes like "the arch way", "kiss", "simple", "minimal", "lightweight"
if you do this, and don't act like an asshole (like a huge part of the community), arch is not a meme

>>57866584
Can't pretty much any distro that comes without a DE be considered "lightweight"? I'd call default Debian lightweight because it just has the absolute bare minimum needed to setup a system easily and thats it.

@57866249
are gnutards really this retarded?

>>57866645
whoops menat for >>57866249

>>57866626
Well, even Ubuntu can be lightweight if you choose a netinstall. A lightweight system makes
a) the base install
b) the package management
Arch has a minimal base but very bloated package management, so basically, when you get a Debian or Ubuntu netinstall and install 600 packages, your system is still more lightweight than an Arch install with 300 packages.

@57866680
what kind of retardation is this? have you replaced your brain with h*rd and it's malfunctioning now?

>>57866709
sorry /fglt/. i'm retarded. for >>57866709

>>57866709
menat for >>57866680

Is there some ok music making programs for linux?

Something like fruity loops or some tracker type shit.

>take break from linux for over a year
>about a month ago want to get back into it
>severely underestimate how much I've lost it
>wipe windows, begin installing gentoo on desktop
>almost done with installation, mistype command, creates some sort of infinite loop
>tired, just turnoff my computer
>realize what I've done
>install windows again and feel dirty

Well I installed fedora in a VM just now, guess I need to get back into it with babby steps.

>>57866795
>mistype command, creates some sort of infinite loop

did you actually attempt to install gentoo?

>>57861861
it probably closes everything on that desktop
whatever it is it doesn't work on my machine

>>57866684
Thanks. I'm trying to settle on a distro so stuff like this is useful to know.

I'm leaning towards Debian right now, but I hear the packages in their main repos are outdated. Most of the programs I have official linux binaries anyway, or I can build from source. Would it matter if Debian has supposedly older packages?

>>57866795
>he actually installed gentoo
lmao

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>>57856693
hi any anons good with arch and tor and iptables?
I have installed arch and can run the arch iptables no problem. but now when i want to use tor im getting confused.

do i run arch iptables along side tor iptables.
tor has me generate a iptables.sh and run that

or do i take the tor iptable info and plug it into the arch iptables.rules and just run the arch iptable.rules

wiki arch iptable: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Iptables

wiki arch tor: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/tor

tor with trans: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy

>>57866825
yes senpai. on my desktop. it probably wasn't an infinite loop but it didn't let me type in the terminal. there is probably a way to fix it, but as I said I was tired and turned the computer off. I feel shame.

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How is it possible to update the kernel while the system is running?
Why is it theoretically possible to never restart and update the kernel multiple times?

>>57866983
kexec

>>57866865
Debian has 3 branches:
Stable, which is the most popular, used for servers which need stablity
Testing, where stuff is tested for stability
Unstable, which is used for average desktop usage
Unstable is a rolling release like Arch

If you want to try Debian, try Debian Sid (the codename for Unstable).

>>57867020
That was my plan!

>>57863016
try asking here its unlikely you will get help from fglt

https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/

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https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromium-wheel-smooth-scr/khpcanbeojalbkpgpmjpdkjnkfcgfkhb

Is this the only solution to the horrible chromium mouse wheel scroll on linux?

>>57866865
Other than security patches or new features.
Old packages are fine, and will probably work well instead of updating which will require updating a dependency that will break another package.
I'm still using GIMP 2.8.14 for example.

>>57867009
Okay thanks, read the article...but didn't get if the currently running programs run on the old kernel till reboot or immediately in the new one?
If the latter I wonder how it is possible to run the system so stable.

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How safe it is to plug a USB flash drive infected with a windows malware to a linux machine?

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>>57867079
>smooth scrolling

>>57867110
if it's just an infected windows executable, you're fine, provided you don't go running it yourself in wine

you should have removable disks mounting with noexec by default anyway

So all I really want is access to the AUR, i3-gaps, a nice bar like polybar and a nice lock screen. I'm buying a whole new computer soon pretty much because this one is on its last legs so installing Linux is just a way of trying to milk some performance out of it, and for learning.

I'm considering attempting to install Arch but it seems pretty complicated. Seeing as half the reason I'm doing this all is to learn Arch seems like a good choice because you have to go barebones with it. I feel like Antergos and Manjaro are like easy mode in a way.

Thoughts? Also, seeing as I'm planning on getting a 4k monitor with my next setup, how does Arch play with high DPI? Or is it more of a case of what WM you use?

>>57866887
so do i just runarch default iptables.rules until i need tor, then shut down .rules and run the iptables.sh?

any anons can help a noob?

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>>57867141
>removable disks mounting with noexec
Doesn't this only works with .sh files?

Also do you mean autorun.inf files and other malware such as .vbs/.bat that can copy itself without the autorun.inf, can't run on linux?

>>57867110
It will get automatically mounted in some distros but I don't think it can infect the system

>>57866584
If you want an actual KISS distro, install slackware.

>>57867114
it's not about the smooth scrolling

it's about the scroll step

that's why I asked if there is an even simpler solution for just that

>>57867110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aatp5gCskvk

>>57867281
Removable storage is not set to be mounted be default, does this mean plugging an infected USB drive without mounting it is safe?
Excluding BadUSB.

Anyone have any good resources (not the wiki), perhaps videos, for installing Arch? I feel like watching someone go through the process might help me not fuck up. Finding and installing the correct drivers for everything, manually setting up your internet connections, making sure you mount all the right things, setting time and date, finding the correct mirror to d/l from; it all is a little overwhelming

>>57867476
>he fell for the arch meme

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>>57867414
>Useless proof of concept
This would work on mac/windows machine.
Maybe some distros as well.
Even so, HTTPS everywhere/NoScript/RequestPolicy/Decentraleyes should be a bare minimum for safe web browsing.

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>>57867476
arch is for advanced users only

>>57867603
this

keep the kids out of arch
the beginners guide should completly removed

>>57867629
I thought they did.

>>57867476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqh9AQt3nho

Arch wiki is good, but it lacks of details. It gave me bad impression at first.
But this is the reason I liked Arch wiki a lot, because no TL;DR, just $ command, $ command and sometimes # command.
I hate reading ton of sentences just to find $ command.

>>57867547
Is it really a meme? From what I've heard the AUR is pretty handy
>>57867603
>>57867629
Just interested in how everything in the OS works, didn't know you had to be more than curious to be accepted into the secret club

I'll come back once I have no friends and am spending my nights researching a decent distribution to install to try gain a better grasp on computers as a whole, oh w-

>>57867476
everything you listed is or should be on the wiki

go watch any recent video if you want to get some idea

you set wifi with wpa_cli or the ncurses one they prob recommend
you select internet interface with dhcpcd <intf from ip link>

uncomment your mirror in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

>>57867603
oh now u tell me after i spend months reading the wiki and installing 5-10 times. but getting to know how linux works... cept for these damn iptable rules.

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>>57856693

>>57867664
Hey anon o/
can u help me with my arch tor question

>>57866887

>>57867983
so tell me, how to load a module? no google allowed

>>57868051
ok yeah not that good yet. still noob phase. but wiki states modules are loaded automatically.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_modules

and u sd no google, not no wiki

>>57868111
is this similar to systemctl enable?

>>57867384
Pretty cool extension, useful on bigger threads etc

>>57860892
Try to nomodeset, but you'll be forced into 640x480. I always get a black screen after install, since nouveau for some fucking reason doesn't support my gpu.

>>57868340
>using a gpu

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>>57867417
Anyone?

>>57868446
>>>/a/

>my PC will never be supported by a fully free distribution

>>57868629
Isn't it mostly just wifi? Could be solved with an adapter that runs with free software.

>>57868674
>using wifi
pretty insecure tbqh
use a fucking cable

>>57868674
The ethernet requires nonfree firmware for some reason. I'd need a new motherboard. Or maybe in a few years it will become supported.

What DE supports HiDPI best? My laptop has a 13" screen with a resolution of 3200x1800. It's borderline unusable without scaling.
Research seems to say KDE is the least bad, but do any of you have some experience?

>>57868629
heads up, 1% botnet is better than 100% botnet

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So with the exception of BadUSB/killerUSB, simply inserting a USB flash drive infected with windows malware (exe,bat,vbs,lnk,etc..) into a linux machine with WINE installed is safe?

How to properly enable microphone noise/echo reduction in pulseaudio on lets say debian jessie?

>>57868755
you mean a gnu/linux machine?

>>57868755
Reposting crap doesn't make it better anon.

>>57868755
Read the thread.

Why does everyone love urxvt so much when xterm is just as good? You can even use unicode on xterm if you want.

>>57868842
no fallback fonts, means, no nice terminal font, with fallback for moonrunes and unicode

>>57868842
Because the deamon-client model.

>>57868727
should be either gnome or kde

afaik its about gtk2 and qt4
anything not ported from those => no hidpi

>>57868842
st is uber both

>>57857536

Fedoranon reporting in.

Pretty much like >>57862083 , I have Fedora 25 installed in a "just werks" machine.

Good alternative to Debian based distros. I enjoy having new kernels. I think fedora is one of the distros that is closer to the kernel development. Responsible dev-base, lots of money-earning people that actually depend on their work done well.

At least, as far as I know.

>>57857466
Jesus, who is that hambeast sat next to you?

>>57869018
you're retarded anon, I don't even know where to start because there's too much crap in your post

>>57862083

>https://kororaproject.org/
>Korora is 100% free.

What did she mean by this?

>>57869018
Isn't Fedora just for people who are afraid of being bullied for using Noobuntu?

Does devuan run as well as debian?

Im trying to recover a formated partition from a 1TB disk but i don't have where to make a dd of a 1TB so question: how could i make the hard disk read only and any writing be made in a virtual space so the HDD is actually intact but i could still be making changes for testing recovery tools?

>>57869084

And for those who want proper package managing.
And for the possibility of switchable graphics.
And for those who want upstream GNOME.

I don't bully people for using Ubuntu, is also a "just werks" distro, but I just don't like having the same kernel for 2 years, or risk using a non-LTS that runs an "untested" kernel that only Ubuntu managed to integrate wrong.

(You) are >>57869057 also, aren't (You)?

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>>57869039
Muh gf

>>57869226
>freebsd

>>57869226
nice bloat

>>57869226
what mis this? puscifer on steroids?

>>57868774
Yes.
>>57868803
Yes it does.
>>57868829
It was never answered.

You know what GNU/Linux really needs right now to grow?
It needs the really autistic and intelligent developers to design a "user friendly" distro.
No fluff, forget aesthetic. Just functionally acceptable, in practice and on paper, for new users to keep their installs LONG TERM without feeling overwhelmed, and without having to be told to learn bash.

I know all those really intelligent programmers just want to work on their minimal terminal based stuff. But I think we really need them to do the job instead of the people currently working on "user friendly" stuff.

We need them to take their autistic focus and come up with a standard for graphical configuration utilities and tools. Well coded, efficient, simple, lightweight, modular, applicable to any distro, and completely spanning just about every single thing new users would ever want to configure or customize on their Linux machines or re-generate config files/fix issues with most common problems they run into.

No this isn't something I need for myself, I do everything in the terminal and am happy with it. I just sometimes feel sorry for new users coming to Linux. We try to tell them it's getting better and more user friendly these days, but it's really not.
Even when they have the tools they need, the people who they would be getting help from have never used those tools at all and have no idea what to tell them. So we just tell them to pop open a terminal and do it our way which just frustrates them.

>>57869319
yeah thats what im saying... just give me a system already running with standard defaults that i can change out.

arch..
i got to install a bootloader, desktop, repo, firewall.... blahblahblah

pain in the task.

-semi triggered

>>57869319
That's what's kubuntu is for.

>>57869319
It's called Ubuntu

>So we just tell them to pop open a terminal and do it our way which just frustrates them.
And that's how it should be. You don't even know how happy I am when I get something like that for Windows-related problems instead of those long exclamations about where to click.

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>>57869319
Replace the word "standards" with "distros"

can openrc be upgraded without getting a new gentoo stage3?

>>57869441
>So we just tell them
maybe. try it... ahh linux

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>tfw I need to turn off my server to upgrade the ram
My uptime is 40 days. I don't want to lose all of that, and editting /proc/uptime feels like cheating

>>57869460
how autistic are you?

>>57869451
k.

>>57869367
Exactly.
I haven't used Ubuntu in forever either, but from what I hear it's still pretty much recommended to just reinstall every 6 months when the new release is out instead of being able to roll over to it.

I mean, fucking windows 95 had a more coeherent set of user friendly configuration tools, and windows was able to upgrade tons of people (against their will) to windows 10 without too many issues.
Why doesn't Linux do this stuff?

I really don't think people mind ugly GUI's. It doesn't have to be stylish, it just has to work well and be standardized.

>>57869405
Read what I said about Ubuntu above. But also I know you prefer it that way, and so do I. But don't you think it turns away a lot of people?
Even if it's still easier for them to paste commands too, I think it's even just a psychological thing. Knowing that they _have_ the same graphical tools as anyone else is more comforting than feeling like they're all set up with a set of GUI's that literally noone but them is using. It's gotta be a bit frustrating.

Anyways, this is just my opinion on what needs to be done to really push Linux forward

>>57869472
11/10 autism

>>57869475
>Anyways, this is just my opinion on what needs to be done to really push Linux forward
Yeah buddy let's pretend its in any way different to what thousands of people said about the issue before you.

Be useful and make it happen.

>>57869503
kek

>>57869518
Will you help me?

>>57869475
>But don't you think it turns away a lot of people?
Why should I care?

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>>57869528
No. I strive towards making my operating system as much of a poorly hacked together heap of junk as it's possible.
It makes me feel warm and cosy inside.

If it wasn't for hardware drivers I would probably use something more obscure.

>>57869528
I'll make the logo

>>57869475
>without too many issues
I mean it completely nuked my Linux install to the point of destroying the partitions themselves, but I guess that's not an "issue" for MS.

>>57869532
oh u should care because linux is a distribution from and for the people. thus more people involved the better the growth; or it die out like all the oldfags that use to be here o7

>>57869528
>>57869561

great i can help with the facebook page

>>57869561
>>57869588
We're already halfway there, this is easy why has nobody done it before?

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>>57869560
>poorly hacked together heap of junk as it's possible.
best feel

taylor swift nudes: >>57869592
taylor swift nudes: >>57869592

>>57869601
idk, but maybe we should start a kickstart page?

>>57869572
>linux is a distribution from and for the people
Linux is a kernel, there are fucktons of distributions based on it, and not all of them are community based.
Some are from companies, and some are made for companies.

And what exactly do you expect to gain from bigger popularity? What good did Androids popularity bring to it?

I have a 256 GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. Devoting 200+ GB on a root partition seems wasteful, no? Since Linux installs games in the home partition. How do you guys set it up?

>>57869656
>What good did Androids popularity bring to it?
Not him but developer base for sure.

>>57869707
>ssd for / and /home, 1tb as some /media/"yourname" disk that will have a separate steam library (you can set this up in steam easily) that you install stuff in. cmon rest of the system takes 10 gb tops + /home files

>>57869707
30GB for /
2x RAM for swap
rest of the SSD dedicate to separate /home partition

1TB HDD for a large partition /media
set fstab to mount /media in your home directory.

>>57869707
>>57869764
Just checked my system and apparently I'm using about 34GB for everything other than /home
It's an older install though so I probably have some unused junk on it.

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>>57869883
>>57869764
>>57869762
So this would be acceptable?

>>57869953
Yeah. If you're not intending to put media files on /home you should be golden

>>57869953
>40GiB root
why? i never exceed 10GiB with all the bloat i can imagine. I use 20GiB

>>57870014
>2016
>not installing every OSS on your system

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>>57869259
>>57869284
>>57869293
No roids

>>57869319
That's literally Ubuntu
No command line required, just boot the iso and go

>>57867554
noScript felt like overkill to me. I dont want to have to unbreak every website I visit.

>>57870601
Nothing canonical makes will ever be standard because they don't give a shit whether it's bloated or efficient or not.