/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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first for debian

daily reminder that python isn't a programming language and rarely has it ever been taken as such by any sane person

Reminder to drop your OC papes right here: >>>/wg/6767536

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>>57833554
Second for friendly

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Reminder that Linux Mint is the worst distro on the market. Don't fall for it, if you are new, use Ubuntu.

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>>57833578
This!
Don't let those damn hackers crack and hack your system!

>>57831943
That does sound good. I have 128gb of ram, so I suppose it's worth a try.

how to unsubscribe from these reminders?

>>57833637
write a python script to do so
lmao

>>57833578
Actually i think that ubuntu is the worst distro ever, even elementary os is better (and that is hard to do).

>>57833647
B-but it doesn't use the command line! It must be bad!

Going to try Debian, can anyone tell me what's the difference between all of these?
dpkg, apt, aptitude
Jessie, Unstable, etc

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Women matter; please help us to fight the harassment in the Arch Linux community.
https://archwomen.org/blog/post/responding-to-harassment.html

What the hell is wrong with Xubuntu? Thunar has been crashing on cut/paste for four years now.

>>57833665
Use debian unstable and aptitude to manage packages. That's all you need to know.

>>57833665
dpkg is the package manager, you can install local .deb packages, see whats installed etc with it.
apt is used to install software, remove software and update from the internet, and aptitude is a more friendly frontend for apt. Jessie is the current stable version of Debian, 8.6. Testing is the more up-to-date, but less stable version of Jessie, and Sid(unstable) is the rolling-release version of Debian.

>Pay rise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyVAC_eEjz4

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so I was removing systemd and now it doesnt boot anymore, how2fix? I'm on arch if it matters

>>57833712
Hey.
What's the best distro to use? I was thinking Debian, is it shit?

>>57833831
New user? Get KDE Neon. Otherwise I suggest OpenSUSE

>>57833858
Yeah.
I've been thinking about Neon, it sounds nice.
Could you tell me more about OpenSUSE? I know only that it's RPM-based

>>57833815
Add

init=/bin/sh

to the kernel when booting. After that you're on your own.

>>57833815
>Trying to change the init system
Good job breaking all of the things that expect systemd to be there.
Install Gentoo. No, really.

>>57833869
Well OpenSUSE's YaST gives you a centralized control panel, so the system controls are not scattered everywhere. It has a nice KDE integration as well. Although the wiki is not as nice as that of Arch, it is pretty reliable since they patch KDE and other packages before they ship it. (see Firefox KDE integration)

the last time I installed gentoo was sometime before 2005. is gentoo worthwhile at this point?

>>57834209
yes

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>>57833578
Reminder that Linux Mint is the best distro on the market, Ubuntu is a lump of coal and Mint is a diamond

? ? ?
Why does mpv `ls -t | head -1|`
not run the entire name, but instead splits it at the spaces?

How do I insert the entire string ? ?

>>57834328
Why do you use a trailing pipe?

>>57834328
>My main objective is not listening to the song, I just want to look like an 1337 haxor while playing dem songs :D

>>57834328
Still >>57834344.
Surround your backquotes by double quotes.

"`ls -t | head -1`"

So I have a shortcut that logs me straight into my server using SSH. How do I edit the shortcut so it automatically issues a command after login?

For example I would like a shortcut that logs me into ssh and starts nmon, how would I do that?

>>57834328
>>57834353
>parsing ls
>using backticks
holy shit

man find

>>57833540
This is going to sound a bit retarded but how can I use large portions of RAM as disk cache assuming that I have enough RAM in order to compensate for bad disk performance?

>>57834479
Use Linux. It's automatic.

>>57833680
I noticed the same thing recently as well. A sure way to crash it is Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C when nothing is selected and Ctrl+V

>>57834479
distro like puppy linux is full charged in RAM
good for bad computer

>>57834328
Don't parse ls. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
Use quotes.
Use $() instead of ``.
Better solution:

mpv "$(find . -type f -mtime -1 -print -quit)"

>>57833540
>on antergos
>install plex server
>can't find it in any menu or bin directory
halp please

>>57834373
So I think I've almost solved it. However when I run the command 'ssh ubuntu' for example I get errors on every line of the ./ssh/config file.

>.ssh/config: line 1: Bad configuration option: {\\rtf1\\ansi\\ansicpg1252\\cocoartf1138\\cocoasubrtf510

The fuck?

>>57833680
It's not xubuntu. It's thunar. Probably coded in C++.

>>57834629
Nah, it's written in C

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HELLO,

I seriously need help.
I installed ubuntu on my main desktop a few months ago, but was too lazy to set everything up properly and all/most of my data is on my SSD now and my 2TB HDD isn't even used.
Now I have 5GB left on my SSD and thought about MAYBE I finally should move different folders to the HDD.

How do I do this? I don't want all of /home on the HDD, because I'd like to keep fast access on /home/documents

I just want to outsource folders like
/home/pictures
/home/videos
/home/someothershit

how do I do this and still keep a symlink (or something like that) to home folder, so I can easily access them?

>>57834515
I know that linux automatically caches opened files but what I want to do is caching frequently used files before they have been accessed, like prefetch.

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I need a gpu for my linux machine since my old one literally burned up.
need DP and 4k and video hardware acceleration
no gaming
occasional vm passtrough

Any suggestions?

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Does anyone know how to keep your screen from blanking when mpv is open? I tried
--stop-screensaver
and
--hearbeat-cmd

And neither worked with any success. I'm on Fedora 25 using gnome.

retoasting:

Hi linux folk

> Only used raspbian with fuck around pi
> Got a 2015 retina macbook pro for nothing
> Want to put a nice distro on it

Which distro is best for macbook hardware?

Some dudes said mint. Good choice?

Inb4 gentoo

>>57834841
Mint is the way to go.

>>57834841
anything you want. the hardware support is pretty much the same for all the distros. dont use mint. anything but mint.

>>57834841
what's wrong with current os?

>>57834822
Heartbeat-cmd should include the actual command that will be executed to stop screen from blanking.

I use xscreensaver, so my mpv.conf has a line

heartbeat-cmd="xscreensaver-command -deactivate"

Look for documentation on the screensaver you're using.

>>57834760
>DP and 4k and video hardware acceleration
Novidya cards that have this feature with proprietary drivers are probably your best bet.

>>57834760
RX 480

>>57834724
Quick and dirty. You call that programs with all the files you want to cache.

let size = 4096;;

let buffer = Bytes.create size;;

let eat in_channel =
  let rec loop () =
    match input in_channel buffer 0 size with
    | 0 -> ()
    | _ -> loop () in
  loop ()
;;

let cache_file file =
  let ic = open_in_bin file in
  try
    eat ic;
    close_in ic
  with
  | x ->
    close_in ic;
    raise x
;;
    false
;;

let main () =
  let lim = Array.length Sys.argv in
  let rec loop has_error i =
    if i < lim then
      let has_error =
        try
          cache_file Sys.argv.(i);
          has_error
        with
        | x ->
          Printf.eprintf
            "error when caching %S: %s"
            Sys.argv.(i) (Printexc.to_string x);
          prerr_newline ();
          true in
      loop has_error (succ i)
    else
      has_error in
  let has_error = loop false 1 in
  if has_error then
    exit 1
;;

let () = main ();;

>>57834875
Thanks a ton, I got it to work with

--heartbeat-cmd="gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 0"

>>57834841
Ubuntu

>>57834978
Thanks, how can one use this script though? I'm not familiar with bash scripting.

>>57834872
Not him but free as in freedum m8

>>57835053
Is it trolling? You save it into precache.ml

ocamlopt -o precache precache

And precache is a binary.

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Any distro that supports SiS 771/671 (video) out of the box, already tried manually compiling some ghetto drivers in Ubuntu Mate and Lubuntu and didn't work

>>57835096
>Is it trolling
Nope, I'm just clueless about this sort of stuff. Thanks again.

how to copy & paste between various terminal and application windows in i3 ? the midle mouse button is not working

>>57835357
To copy just highlight the text.

To paste use Shift + Insert.

Been a standard on all OSes since OS/2

>>57835357
ctrl+maj+c
ctrl+maj+v

>>57835630
>maj

Does netsurf support posting on 4chan?

>>57834760
>Any suggestions?
nvidia will provide better performances with openGL
amd will provide better performances with Vulkan

>will people actually use vulkan for games ?
probably, but not now.

>I only cares about free drivers and don't want proprietary shit
go with amd

check phoronix for actual benchmarks on linux.

>>57835663
No, unless you have a 4jew pass.

netsurf offers only rudimentary js support, insufficient for captchshka.

>>57835702
Well that sucks, I was hoping I could post on 4chan while installing gentoo. I remember when they had midori as their browser. Why did they take that out?

>>57835662
>>57835630
shift

>>57834822

It works perfectly for me. I was wondering the same and asked on here. Apparently there's a part in mpv's source which toggles X11's DPMS settings (which cause it to blank).
Of course that doesn't apply to you if you use additional "screensavers".

please stop bully arch users

>>57836071

On the internet, no one knows you're using Arch.

>>57836071
Archkids brought it upon themselves.

>>57836071
no

Any tips on how to improve fonts on KDE and set everything up for hidpi? I messed with infinality already, but afaik, it's deprecated.

Currently on a 25' 1440p display.

>>57833540
gonna need a light weight easy to use distro for 60gb ssd,2gb ram celeron for my mom.

Was thinking bunto,but know I think I am gonna install arch,or should I try souls on it? i don't want bloat guys

>>57836265
If you don't want bloat, don't get Arch.

>>57836265
Arch is a terrible choice for your mom.

>>57836365
Not like she will tinker with shit, only needs to play videos,netflix,and fb.

>>57834620
>plex server
Try starting the plex-media-server service, not sure you need direct access to the binaries

I have a little problem. I thought about switching desktop enviroment, because unity kinda sucks so I am on i3 right now.

I kinda dont understand the config process. I just did this (found on archwiki)


"Therefore, users of alternate keyboard layouts who want straightforward key bindings, which match the bindings given in tutorials, may prefer to circumvent the "config wizard". This can be done by just copying /etc/i3/config into ~/.config/i3/config (or ~/.i3/config), and editing that file"


I fucking cp'd it but I dont find ~/.config/i3/config! Where would it be?

Why cant i simply edit the original config?

Thanks in advance, I know I shouldnt be doing this but I am too committed

>>57836144

Fonts and your Infinality mistake have nothing to do with HiDPI.
Support for HiDPI scaling depends on the toolkit the program is using. GTK3 and Qt5 have "decent" scaling under Xorg (as mentioned by others). Wayland improves on that and allows even better fine-tuning.

To get decent font rendering, go to the Arch Linux Wiki page and copy a simple, sample config file. I don't know if KDE overwrites it and applies other fixes, so you should test that yourself and bear it in mind.

>>57836728

> I dont find ~/.config/i3/config!
Create it yourself, obviously.

How would I change my mouse-cursor only for when it's over the terminal.
My mouse theme makes it get lost but I prefer it everywhere else.

>>57836787
no

>>57836799
>no
Yes?

>>57836831
Not possible

>>57836767
Oh shit, I just found it, thanks. And when i edit this "config" I change my i3?

What web browser do you guys use? I'm torn between Chrome and Firefox again.

>>57836981

>considering using a proprietary web browser at all
I seriously doubt Chrome has any exclusive features that Firefox hasn't. "Speed" is also a buzzword that only idiots take into account, because there is no significant "speed" difference.

Why are you even asking? It's not like there are dozens of browsers to consider. There are not even a handful.

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>>57834869

up and running.

easier than expected, thanks anons.

Is there a media indexer were i can point it to certain folders and it creates an searchable index?

>>57836864
Shift+mod+R reloads i3 iirc

>>57837007
All it has over firefox are DRM features and native flash. Anyone using GNU/Linux should avoid it. Flash is obsolete now anyway. Don't even need it for porn anymore. And if you do need to watch a flash video youtube-dl exists for that. Chrome is for cucks.

>>57837207
>iris graphics
How's the performance on lunatix? I've been thinking about making a desktop with Intel gpu.

>>57837207
you're an idiot for picking mint.
i tried to warn you anon
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

/r/ the highest presets for mpv.

>>57837247
flash games are still a thing

>>57837264

Runs perfectly fine, haven't noticed any issue. It just weeks.

>>57837300

Top kek it just got security updates tonight

Linux on the desktop is really an awful experience.

First of all there's a bug with grub in Ubuntu so I can't have my drives connected to the motherboard certain way or it won't install. Basically it will try to install grub on sda even if it can't, and won't let you choose another drive (although it gives the option, it won't actually do it). WTF.

So I fix that problem by literally disconnecting a drive. Whatever. Next, I install Ubuntu, works well for a couple weeks, then I decide to try out some other desktop environments. Even just installing the packages with apt-get, not even changing any settings, starts causing a ton of weird errors and stuff. Googled all night and couldn't fix the problem.

So today I reinstall, and choose to encrypt my SSD, just to try it out. Works fine. I install the Nvidia drivers, reboot, and I can't type in the passphrase to unlock the disk at boot. WTF? How could Nvidia drivers cause that? So I have to boot into recovery mode to unencrypt the disk.

Linux on the desktop blows.

>>57837450
i don't think you understand anon. i know you apple idiots are used to 'lole git security update so im ok :DDD'
you clearly didnt read the article

>>57837397
who still plays flash games? kids play minecraft and shit like that now, and I think even that is on its way out.

>>57837455
I think your problem might be Ubuntu.

>>57837604
Pretty sure KanColle is still popular

>>57834760
I would recommend something like the GTX 950, It has those things, it's cheap and you can get a 75W version that doesn't need power connections.

>>57834841
I'm not a fan of ubuntu based distros, but I've had good luck running it on apple hardware. Install the flavor for whatever DE you prefer.

Anyone on Fedora 25 that can post me the output of these commands?

modinfo snd_hda_intel | grep srcversion
cat /lib/modules/4.8.0-22-generic/modules.builtin | grep snd-hda-intel
cat /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save

Trying to figure out why that module is broken in Debian and Ubuntu for me :( Worked great in Fedora

>>57836265
At the risk of being a Kevin, I'm going to suggest solus, the clearlinux optimizations make it run well on shitty hardware like that celeron, and budgie (while a particularly shitty DE for customization) will be good for someone who has no clue what they're doing.

>>57834760
Get a 750ti from gigabyte.

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>>57837455
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux

Why are there no good DEs?

- Gnome 3 is bloated.
- KDE 5 is buggy.
- XFCE, LXDE, LXQt, Cinnamon and MATE look like they're from the last century.
- Enlightenment is still in its infancy despite being version 17 (wtf).
- *box are featureless.
- Budgie is garbage.

It seems like I have to keep using awesomewm but I have a 3.0GHz processor with a 7950, is it too much to ask for a simple, functional, good-looking, modern DE that supports tiling?

Containers can be used for distro hopping?

Why is it so hard to make Qt applications look perfectly fine on Xfwm? No matter what I try, drop-down menus in Qt have light text on light background even though it otherwise looks just like GTK (using qt5ct)

>>57833540
I installed this browser from a repository.
http://surf.suckless.org/
I wanted to add a adblock and quick searches to it. A guy on the irc chat told me I have to compile it, but the instructions on the site aren't very clear to me.
It's real fast on my shitty laptop and I'm using mouse gestures with it. But not having an adblock, bookmarks and history is a deal breaker. Can anybody help?

>>57837455
>it will try to install grub on sda even if it can't, and won't let you choose another drive
This is why you need a text mode installer like Arch

# grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdx
# grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

Keeps it simple

>>57838389
>4chan cares who I am

>>57838443
4chan doesn't but i do
im his fan

Guys. I fucked up.

I came home drunk last night and for some reasons I decided to uninstall KDE. I just woke up and found that not only I got rid of KDE, but also of Xorg and the entire networking packages (ifup/down, wicd-cli aren't insalled. IP can't bring my interface up for some reason.)

I have a Debian Standard CD lying around, how can I use it to install theissing networking packages? I already tried adding the CD in sources.list, but apt doesn't grab the packages from there and I don't want to reinstall the entire OS just for some packages.

>>57838222
There's a less painful way of adblocking on a shitty laptop without recompiling software.

The file is /etc/hosts

Then read up

http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

Another filter set I use (less about blocking ads but more about turning Internet into a hugbox, so no goatsee etc)

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

This is blocking ads on OS level, incrediby reliable since your computer is unable to make a connection with whatever server distributes ads.
Changes are applied as soon as you save the file, simply reload the page.

>>57838492
You could just reinstall what you uninstalled.

Run this to have some sort of history.

 zgrep --no-filename 'install \|remove \|upgrade ' /var/log/dpkg* | sort

>>57838492
dpkg -i should install .deb packages

>>57838537
>hosts blocking
are you living in the 90s

>>57837703

You might be right, but considering that Ubuntu is touted as the most user friendly and polished Linux distro, I shudder to think what it's like on other distros.

>>57838208

Stop using qt5ct. Use this https://bitbucket.org/trialuser02/qt5gtk2
Also, that's only for Qt5 programs. To get Qt4 programs to use your GTK theme, use qtconfig-qt4.

>>57838599
It used to be. It's gone majorly downhill since 16.04. I now recommend Fedora in place of it.

>>57838599
>>57837941

>>57838688
>fedora
red hat/nsa crap without packages

>>57838651
Holy shit, that did it. Thanks, anon. I wonder why this isn't packaged in AUR or mentioned at all in Arch wiki.

>>57834270
pst kid, what the difference?

>>57834620
>he fell for the Arch meme

Which distro is best for ricing? I'm going to dual boot abd only use linux for art and internet

>>57839156
any you fancy. apart from mint of course.

>>57839156
OSX

>>57838086
>- XFCE, LXDE, LXQt, Cinnamon and MATE look like they're from the last century.
what did he mean by this
what

>>57839209
What does OSX have going for it that makes it better than something like debian or arch or manjaro?

>>57839326
Apparently, he's praising them

>>57838086

Fuck off. KDE 5 is not buggy. This is just a shitty meme that some gnomefags spread like cancer.

It's objectively the most complete and featured DE. Plus, it's not like other DEs which are just some shitty gnome reskins.

>>57839156
Arch

>>57839156
Any

>>57839156
Any would work, but often requiring you to have a DE installed that you would ignore, taking up space on your hard drive. So I recommend something with a small base install, like gentoo.

>>57833540
I have windows10/ubuntu 16.04 dualboot
Thinking that I want debian.
Can just format and install debian on ubuntu partition ?
I have extracted all data I needed from there, but I am worried how grub and everything else will boot.

>>57839454
It's ugly and laggy. I've tried to use it many times but I can't get past that.

>>57839523
>requiring you to have a DE installed
Name one distro that does that.

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>Want to move to Linux
>Ask /g/ what distro should i use
>Someone says X
>Someone else says i should kill myself if i use X, use Y instead
>Someone else says i should ditch both in favor of Z
>"X is bloated"
>"Y lacks features"
>"Z is a meme"
>This goes on for 100 posts

>>57839668
Just read the OP

>>57839668
Or you could just do the research for yourself and stop expecting people to make the right choice for you so you can shift blame on them and the poor recommendation in case your ineptitude to work out a problem shows.

>>57839668
Literally just try out a variety of distros and see what you like. Just install mint or ubuntu and get familiar with linux and then try out fedora, debian, opensuse, slackware, gentoo, arch linux, etc till you know exactly what you want from linux.

>>57839483
retard
>>57839156
any distro

>>57839668
Debian. It is the universal operating system. Everything else is irrelevant.

>>57839668
>Want to move to Linux
Linux is a kernel of the GNU system, so you actually want to move to GNU.

>>57839853
STFU

>>57839668
use Ubuntu, it's not meme, lacks (it depends if you need Gamez) and also not so bloated.
So it's good start for newbee

@57839853
>he thinks a kernel can only be used in one "system"
that the average gnuposter for you

>>57839668
Just use Ubuntu or Linux Mint if you want your system to fucking work. Move on from there if you want to do more customization (and also more work)

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>>57839853
No, jackass: he wants to move to the Linux operating system.

So someone clear this up. There are two different ways devices can be named in linux: The traditional way of eth0, wlan0, etc and the new predictable naming with udev, right?

>>57840139
Yes.

>>57833540
Here's some not often mentioned Desktop options

>Elementary OS
This is a Windows/Mac type clone looking distro that is easy, easy to run and use. If you want a desktop that 'just works' this is it: https://elementary.io/

>Gentoo kek
Gentoo is a toolkit to build distributions, not a distribution itself really. Everybody here will disagree but they are in fact creating their own distro whenever they build a Gentoo system.

>CoreOS
Built with.. Gentoo. This explains what CoreOS is, mainly a higher level abstraction to manage a bunch of containers and fleet of servers. You can run this on bare metal and spin up all the app VMs you want if a dev using Tensorflow and want to experiment with a cluster https://deis.com/blog/2016/coreos-overview-p1/

>Void Linux
Most interesting distro around, not a fork of anything, minimalist rolling updates, mainly exists to show off it's own package manager http://www.voidlinux.eu/

>NixOS
You configure this using 'functional' configurations meaning no state, meaning can always roll back changes, get predictiable builds and get reliable atomic upgrades. https://nixos.org/

>Exherbo
https://exherbo.org/ A bunch of Gentoo devs are here, it's another base distro for creating your own distro and focuses on decentralized development. It also has it's own pkg manager and claims to have fixed all the problems Portage has.

>Vmware ESXi
This just works. It's a bare metal base system to spin up hypervisors and you can run any OS you want. Need to passthrough video card or network card? Just works. No idea what the license is it's 'free' as in cost.

What you absolutely do not want to ever use is Linux Mint because of how they handled that gongshow security incident where a hacked .iSO was being peddled on their main site. They basically had no effort in their security, no idea how long they were compromised, and couldnt even respond effectively.

tl;dr if you know nothing, you want ElementaryOS

>>57840198
>Gentoo is a toolkit to build distributions, not a distribution itself really. Everybody here will disagree but they are in fact creating their own distro whenever they build a Gentoo system.
If I'm not _distributing_ it, then it's not a distro dickwad.

Your logic is basically like saying that you installed photoshop on Windows so you've created your own alternative Windows distribution.

>>57840158
Right, I was pretty confused for a while why gentoo and systemrescuecd was naming it funky names, then later realized it used a fork of udev called eudev.

>>57840288
Gentoo is a meta-distribution with portage tree which is a collective of ebuilds that describe how to build each individual package, the dependencies, the configuration flags etc. Literally every user who uses Gentoo builds and produces their own linux distribution, with their own CFLAGS, USE flags etc.

>>57840198
>Void Linux
>Most interesting distro around, not a fork of anything, minimalist rolling updates, mainly exists to show off it's own package manager
Ah yes, the Pokeball distro.

>>57840407
>Literally every user who uses Gentoo builds and produces their own linux distribution
Oh sorry, I didn't fucking realize that my computer was whoring itself out on distrowatch.com without me realizing it.


I'm not saying that whatever idea you have in your head is wrong. I'm just saying that "distro" absolutely is NOT the word you're looking for. It literally means distribution. I'm not distributing my personal blend of software therefore it is undeniably not a distro.

I don't care if someone is using the Linux kernel and literally writing 100% of their own userland software from scratch without even touching GNU.
If they aren't _distributing_ it, then they have not created a distribution. That's all there is to it.

>>57840474
He should have just said Gentoo is about customization. Which is what I think he meant.

Just opened some space on my external HDD to install loomis (50gb), which is the best distro for a winbaby newfag?

>>57840573
Ubuntu or Mint, maybe try them out in a VM first.

>>57840587
Any way to change the gui in Ubuntu? Last time I tried it I found the almost MacOS-tier interface to be unbearable, which it is something I find attractive in Mint.

>>57840661
I don't think any of the flavors comes with such a gui oob

>>57840661
download an ubuntu varient, like xubuntu, ubuntu GNOME, ubuntu MATE etc etc

>>57840661
You mean the desktop environment / window manager? Of course you can change that on any distro.

I don't think Linux right now has any truly decent distro that is both good for new users and experienced users. But that's all just a matter of defaults. It's a good idea just to start with something simple with a big community that you can get help from, and then later once you've gotten your feet wet you can actually pick something that suits you better.

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>>57840407
>their own CFLAGS, USE flags etc.

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>>57833675
guys there are women using arch right now.

>>57841056
Fuck, better install Gentoo.

>>57834270
coming from the guy who think TempleOS is 3rd best and fedora is second to last. you my freind are a living meme.

>>57841056
How times have changed

>>57833675
Good god, no wonder #archlinux is a pathetic hugbox.

>>57841065
Do it, it's honestly a great distro.

>>57841056
Incredible. Who cares?

>>57841106
More females and minorities means more SJW bullshit. This is a fact.

If I have a NAS running OMV can I run simple cron scripts on it? I'm thinking of buying one.

>>57833680
I'm late, but i had this problem with thunar with one font. Try to change the one that is used for Thunar.

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>>57841152
Baka. It means some fuwa fuwa and kira kira in the sausage fest.

>>57841229
It means more bloated crap will come pre-installed like bluetooth tampon controllers

>>57834552
My Thunar doesn't have this feature.

>>57834710

Mount your 2TB harddrive to /media/myhd or something like that and put your pictures folder there.

Then use ln -s /media/myhd/pictures /home/user/pictures

http://askubuntu.com/questions/214643/help-with-creating-a-symbolic-link

Hope this helps. What you are trying to do is actually easy and googleable.

>>57840891
I see. I will try Ubuntu again to see if I can get used to it.

The last time I tried it I believe it was the 12-13 something version. How much has changed since then?

>>57841380
Ubuntu has went downhill. 16.04 had a lot of bugs when I tried it. I can't believe they thought they could release it in that state. Fedora is way better.

>>57841407
It's just werks.

>>57841380
Looks pretty different. I've actually had a seamless experience with it so far. but then again i bought an ubuntu laptop.

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>>57841407
>try to leave a sinking ship
>end up in another
At this rate I will end buying a Mac and stop giving a fuck. I don't know anymore.

>>57841489
Just install Gentoo.

>>57841534
But muh proprietary software

>>57841489
>buying a Mac
It's already sank.

>>57841549
Exactly.

>>57841543
Gentoo doesn't care about that, just run it

>>57841543
You can set gentoo to automatically mask by licenses.

>>57833578
Linux Mint is Ubuntu retard

where can I get linux inside/gnu inside stickers???

C programmer here, where can I find a list of ALL the software I need to rewrite to free us from the GNU monopoly?

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>>57842002
Already done

>>57842002
It's actually been done decades ago.

I doubt there's a piece of GNU software that doesn't have a non-GNU alternative.

Alpine is a Linux distribution that has neither characteristics of a GNU/Linux system. No glibc, no gnu coreutils.

You can start off writing a compiler that will replace GCC and is capable of compiling the Linux kernel

>>57842077
CLANG exists.

>>57842134
Can't compile the kernel.
Produces slow as fuck executables.

>>57842063
according to this chart GNU takes 13% which is 4 percent points more than the kernel

GNU/Linux confirmed

>>57842077
Clang is already a thing. You don't need to be able to compile the kernel if you just want a GNU free system, you can use another system which is infected by GNU to compile the kernel and then copy it to your clean system.
>>57842151
>Produces slow as fuck executables.
nope, they are about the same as the ones produced by GCC.

>>57842286
>nope, they are about the same as the ones produced by GCC.
But it's still unable to compile the Linux kernel.

So if
>they both produce binaries of similar quality
>one is able to compile everything you throw at it
>the other is not
Then GCC is simply the better system, doesn't it?

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>>57842286
>You don't need to be able to compile the kernel if you just want a GNU free system, you can use another system which is infected by GNU to compile the kernel and then copy it to your clean system.
People actually think this way.

>>57842313
isn't it* jeebus

>>57842313
>GCC
>a system
>he think there can possibly be a compiler which fits the description "is able to compile everything thrown at it"
what did he mean by this?

yeah, it's better for compiling the linux kernel since the other one can't even do that.
>>57842328
Feel free to point out the mistakes in my post

>>57842077
>Alpine
is it GCC dependent in any way? I'm going to compile my kernel on another machine.

>>57842356
>Feel free to point out the mistakes in my post
We cant start this pinto(clang) without using a ferrari(gcc) to jump start it.

>>57842386
Well yes, the kernel was compiled with GCC

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Just installed Ubuntu onto my Lenovo Flex 4. Says "device not ready" under Wi-Fi Networks. Im connected via Ethernet cable but i would like to get the Wi-Fi rolling, what do? Is there a driver i need to install?

>>57842387
you don't jump start cars with other cars.
and it seems like you don't understand how compilers work.
clang doesn't even come into play here since it won't be dealing with the kernel.
you compile the kernel on a GCC infected system, then transfer it into a clean system.
>>57842407
yes, but it wouldn't matter since the kernel itself doesn't have gcc code in it.
the compiler doesn't magically alter the source code. so there won't be any presence of GNU left.

Where do i learn regular expressions ?

>>57842435
>you don't jump start cars with other cars.
You literally fucking do kek wat r u even doing

>you compile the kernel on a GCC infected system(ferrari), then transfer it into a clean system(clang)

Cant use clang without someone else compiling your kernel bucko.

>>57842435
>you don't jump start cars with other cars.
Then what do you jump start? Bicycles?

>>57841991
paper + crayons + tape

>>57842469
I don't think so.
>Cant use clang
That's not how it works. You don't need GCC to compile or use clang.
>someone else compiling your kernel
That someone else would be me using my other system which is infected with GNU.

In what way does this alter the kernel source code?
It doesn't invalidate my GNU free principle either since there will be no GNU code on the target machine.
>>57842480
Nothing.

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>>57842519
This post.

>>57833540
I have that laptop in my closet

>>57842519
>Nothing.
kek, the mental gymnastics

>>57842546
What exactly in my image warranted this kind of image?
>>57842553
>mental gymnastics
that's not what the term means.

>>57841192
Bumping this question.

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>>57842566

>>57842566
>in my image
meant post

>>57842571
Feel free to point out any logical inconsistencies in my post about the kernel.
I'll wait, but I'm not holding my breath...

>>57842546
explain your reaction, is anything in that post wrong?

http://surf.suckless.org/files/quick_search

Dumb question. At installation it says to copy the executable and paste into PATH, what is "PATH"?

>>57842881

echo $PATH

Any reason not to install xorg and such while I'm still installing gentoo rather than rebooting first? The guide says to reboot into your new system and then continuing. But it would be more convenient to stay in the live cd with a browser available. Also less boring too.

>>57842881
Path is basically areas to search for when you type a command. It reads it from left to right so if you got a program in more than one area it'll load up the one it finds first.

>>57837359

Reposting,

>/r/ the highest presets for mpv .conf.

>>57843099

profile=opengl-hq
opengl-pbo=yes
opengl-es=yes
opengl-dcomposition=no
framedrop=vo
vd-lavc-threads=32
deinterlace=yes
hls-bitrate=max
opengl-early-flush=yes

# Scaling settings
scale=ewa_lanczossharp
scale-radius=5
scaler-resizes-only
dscale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossharp
sws-scaler=gauss
tscale=oversample
correct-downscaling=yes
sigmoid-upscaling=yes
scale-antiring=0.7
cscale-antiring=0.7
dither-depth=auto

video-sync=display-resample
interpolation=yes
interpolation-threshold=0.01
deband-iterations=2
deband-range=12
temporal-dither=yes
fullscreen=no
msg-color=yes
hwdec=no
autofit-larger=95%x95%
geometry=50%:50%
osc=no
correct-downscaling=yes
sigmoid-upscaling=yes

cache=auto
cache-default=16000
cache-backbuffer=16000
cache-initial=0
cache-seek-min=2000
cache-secs=100
cache-file=TMP
cache-file-size=10000000
demuxer-readahead-secs=60.0

I'm writing a systemd unit/service file or whatever the heck they're called for a web application I need launched every boot. Normally I'd just use cron or something but this is probably the better solution in 2016. Can anyone school me quickly on proper practices? Where should I be throwing this thing? Is /etc/systemd/system really the right place to throw this thing?

>>57843591
arch wiki
systemd
*click*

>>57843591
Here's what I have so far. Think this is okay?

[Unit]
Description=foo.bar.org
After=network.target

[Service]
User=mrmanager
Group=mrmanager
ExecStart=start_server --listen /home/mrmanager/http/private/lpgen.sock -- starman app.psgi
WorkingDirectory=/home/mrmanager/http/hosts/foo.bar.org/landing-page-generator
Restart=on-failure

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

>>57843591
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Writing_unit_files

should be enough really

if all you need is an application startup at boot a barebones unit files should do just fine

>>57843621
>>57843609
Neat I'll give it a shot. Hope things don't differ too much on Debian

>>57843654
there's only one systemd

>>57843673
There aren't any distro specific practices? I'm used to different directory structures across distros

can anyone help me understand the basic difference between ntfs and ext4?

like the basic level, how do they store and retrieve files differently? why is ext4 faster for external drives?

>>57843717
what are you talking about? linux directory structure is pretty uniform

>>57843717
Distro specific implementation differ little to not at all.

Implementing systemd differently across distributions would completely defeat the purpose of systemd.
redhat's prime directive is to defragment the fragmented linux ecosystem so they could raise their future userbase.

That's why their shilling went into overdrive.

Should I use slackware?

>>57843780
if you want to

>>57843780
It's your choice. I used to use slackware before switching to gentoo, but I still keep the DVD around and still support slackware.

What does compile from source actually mean?

Is it what this is below?

>git clone https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch.git

>cd RetroArch

>make

>make install

That's how I wound up installing it.

>>57844561
You take the source, and you compile it your self.

>>57844568
Is that what I did?

hello
im running snort off ubuntu for a class and i cant seem to get the exact thing my teacher wants to work.

I know how to start snort, but when i put in the command i should be using to complete the assignment, it says im missing an argument in the HOME_NET of the snort.conf

does anyone know anything about snort here? how do I get it to run with the S and F flags set?

If I use network manager, and it's enabled at boot time, will it connect me to my previously used wifi network without a network manager applet installed?

>>57844813
Why not ask your teacher? That's what they're there for.

>>57844576
yes
make compiled and linked it
make install installed it, be sure to use sudo with it though since it needs access to installation directories

toying around with void.
what is xbps-src
how do I modify a package then install the modified version with it, exactly?

Dual booting Windows 10 with Linux Mint 18. Opinion?

I got a spare 256 gig SSD i've been meaning to put to good use. Wondering if I should duel boot or run virtual boxes. I'm kind of new at this and security has become a big concern of mine lately. Are there any inherent security concerns between running linux as a duel boot or running Linux in a virtualbox?

>>57845731
Good. Don't listen to the elitist fags who will find fake and outdated reasons to hate mint since it doesn't use the command line extensively.

>>57845731
>Windows 10 with Linux Mint 18
great combination for triggering fglt/

>triple booting Gentoo, Win7 and Android6.0 x86

Any of you ever use LFS as a daily driver?

>>57845785
same :D
but im using iOS instead of android

>>57845809
i don't see what could be the problem with doing so

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What is this and why does it pop up sometimes when I boot Ubuntu GNOME? I haven't even noticed anything working differently, but if the OS says something's wrong, that worries me. The actual list was way too long to capture in a screenshot, by the way.

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>>57846363

>>57833540
I'm using dunst to receive notifications. When I send a file from my cellphone I receive a notification from Blueman but there isn't a link I can click to actually receive the file. How do I receive files via bluetooth then?

I've been trying to use Ubuntu but the sidebar is messing with me.
Is there another DE that I can use that makes the most use of screen space while windows are full screen? I like that the top bar integrates with the task bar though

>>57846425
That tells me nothing, anon.

>>57836265
>should I try souls on it?
Satan get off of /g/ you're drunk

why is Arch a meme? I've been using it with no problems (even with openrc and AUR)
pacman is god-tier
Much easier to use than Gentoo

>>57846626
bait bait

>>57833540
I want the fastest wifi AC card possible.
With linux-libre support, no proprietary formware. Should I stick to Broadcom or Qualcomm?

>>57846852
Qualcom

Installed debian on my laptop and everything works great besides the backlight
I've tried about 10 different fixes for it, but:
-

ls /sys/class/backlight/

returns nothing
-

xbacklight -set 50

returns

No outputs have backlight property

-changing GRUB kernel options to

acpi_backlight=video

or any of the other options I've seen as solutions doesn't work
-editing

/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

for intel stops X from working
I've tried other things as well, pretty much everything in the first few pages on google. Is there somthing I might be missing? If not, is there any way I can just lower the brightness artificially like a hotkey for redshift? Sorry for the long question, I'm just stumped

>>57846481
ubuntu-mate
xubuntu
ect

>>57846481
>makes the most of screen space
if you want to go all the way, try using i3
technically it's a window manager and not a DE, but using it without a DE works fine

>>57842077
Google is also writing it's own OS from scratch to get rid of Android due to proprietary shysters like Quallcom and Samsung not wanting to hand over source.

Android takes great pains to avoid GNU license utils and it shows, like their broken disk encryption. They could've just used Luks/cryptsetup but instead built this ridiculous custom kernel mod which only encrypts user /data instead of the entire flash device.

>>57838709
Linus uses Fedora due to 'problems' with Debian and Ubuntu which he didn't elaborate.

The vast majority of production worksystems (besides OSX) I come across everyday and servers are Ubuntu or RHEL. If you run across CoreOS or some other kubernetes or docker container abortion it's running in a VM on an Ubuntu server.

tl;dr pretty much everybody is still using Ubuntu these days

>>57847140
Encrypting the entire device would require them to unlock it during bootup somehow.

>>57847186
Which iOS has figured out how to do with 'secure-enclave' but Android has totally failed to do, hence Google's proprietary new OS coming out in 2017

>>57842077
>Alpine is a Linux distribution that has neither characteristics of a GNU/Linux system. No glibc, no gnu coreutils.
Its not usable as a desktop os either
busybox is mainly used for embedded devices

>>57847202
It's maintainers all were hired by Docker so that is now their first priority, maintaining those docker stripped down alpine images instead of their own distro should any security problems hit the fan and you're waiting around for alpine patches.

Alpine is mainly used as a tiny OS to launch KVM or Xen virtual machines, but if anybody here was going to do that I'd try SmartOS first since it's Joylent/Solaris, uses pkgsrc (netbsd), uses pf (openbsd) and fits on a usb stick running completely in memory. https://www.joyent.com/smartos (also has Dtrace! )

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>>57833675
I've never seen a biggest meme.

>>57833662
Even Mac OS uses the CLI

>>57833680
Happens on Arch as well. Possibly also Debian, but I can't recall for sure. Really sucks. On the bright side it has pushed me to use ranger more since it's way more reliable. It's just a shame since certain things are so easy in Thunar.

>>57834841
Mac OS comes with stuff like ssh out of the box. I would honestly just leave it unless you really are missing some functionality. That aside, I recommend Arch or Gentoo. If Arch, use Arch-anywhere. It's an awesome installer. Gentoo just because systemd is really getting on my nerves lately and Gentoo is one of the few distros where you can use something else.

>>57837941
>What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
FACT

should I switch to zsh??

>>57845192

Yes.
IF you don't want to use the applet, use nmcli or nmtui instead.

Would you drink from this in public?

http://www.redbubble.com/people/spenglershirts/works/24178811-richard-stallman?asc=u&p=mug&rel=carousel&style=standard

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anyone in here using qt creator for debugging?

when trying to debug I see c++ AND assembler and just want to see c++

but the button who is doing the trick on windows does not work

i installed gdb and set it up as path in qt creator

pic related

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>>57848278
I want this one.

>>57842439
regexr(.)com
little late, but still...

>>57846363
>>57846425
>wayland

basically, what is stopping some troll do add a rm -rf script to the aur?

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Any useful recommendations for basic GNU/Linux security?

>>57848646
I'll make one gimme a minute

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>>57848646
Here you go

http://www.redbubble.com/people/spenglershirts/works/24180123-richard-stallman-mug?asc=u&p=mug&rel=carousel&style=standard

>>57848866
sudo apt-get install common-sense-bin && rm -rf /

>>57849195
btw it's 20% off right now

"
25% off Hoodies and Sweatshirts. 20% off everything else. Use MANICMON
"

On windows every update slows down my pc, is the same on arch?

>>57849562
No.
t. A windows user with common sense

Check out these huge breast: >>57849593

>>57849562
no, the number of packages as well as the number of upgrades of said packages does not bog down the system.

>>57849602
Holy crap!