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/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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zealios are the way to your feelios edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyset wiki
keypuller.com

previous thread >>57787013
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First for cheap Chinese keyboards
Anyone else have a royal kludge? I quite like mine.
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XDA groupbuy for anyone interested

https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/xda-milestone/

I think they look pretty shitty compared to SP's molds, but at least the monopoly is breaking
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>>57804284
>zealios are the way to your feelios edition
you have to go back edition
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I wish my clueboard would get shipped
I want something to do
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Someone had a question
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>>57804494
fuck me they moved it to Dec 7!

I was sure it was Nov 30th

now I hate Amazon even more for not shipping my keyboard
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New threads should be announced on the old thread, OP.

>>57804554
>>57804555

I guess I'll have to use a plate. Probably going to be metal. I can really punish my keyboards sometimes.

>>57804587
It was me. I'm probably gonna ask some questions as I go along researching for my first keyboard. I can start with a couple.

How feasible is it for a beginner to make a wooden case for a keyboard?

Should I stick to a non-custom pcb for my first kb? Is it better to use a pcb+plate instead of just wiring everything (while still using plate).
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>>57804634
What tools and woodworking experience do you have?
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>>57804716
Minimal experience (sanding, varnishing).
Will have access to band saws, circular table saws, maybe a planer. I may have assistance, but I'd prefer to do it on my own.
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>>57804753
You can probably do a layered style one with the band saw, but it'd be easier to make a one-piece case with a router.

For the layered style, just decide what layout you want, use http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/ to make it, then use http://builder.swillkb.com/ to generate CAD files for it that you can use as a template when cutting.
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DAS 4C Professional for £110

Should I get it to replace my K95?

I really don't like reds and I wanted something a bit more compact and tasteful
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>>57804494
So I'm an idiot and new to this stuff. Will this fit mx switches and what is the difference between this compared to oem, can I keep oem modifiers and use these for alphas or would it look like shit?
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>>57804861
What's the purpose of the "das keyboard" logo on the top left of this keyboard. It just takes up space, couldn't they put it somewhere else?
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I want a 40%. Planck was too weird for me. Should I go Atreus or minivan?
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>>57804881
Yes it's designed for MX switches. The vast majority of aftermarket keycaps do, if it doesn't specifically say "Alps mount" or "Topre mount" it's probably MX.

XDA is very different to OEM. OEM is a medium profile sculptured layout (each row of keys is it a different angle that's supposedly more comfortable), XDA is a low profile flat layout (all rows are at the same angle, and the keycaps themselves don't get as high). I would not recommend mixing OEM and XDA.
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>>57804634
Making a wooden case is perfectly feasible. Pic related is my first build and the first time I worked with wood in at least five years. All I used for this was an oscillating tool and a chisel (and a hammer).

I'd almost recommend handwiring since you'll learn how a keyboard matrix works that way, but it's also a pain and quite susceptible to faults that will make shit not work and be a pain to troubleshoot. You can either get some pre-made PCB, or design your own and have it printed. Other than that, I could mill you one, I'll be starting with milling PCBs anyway quite soon and the material is dirt cheap. Though I'd say hand-wiring is still a fun experience.

Unless you have a 3D printer or a laser cutter available, I'd get a laser-cut plate somewhere that offers that kind of service.
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Kind of tempted to pick up the Blackwidow x, my first choice with the Shine 5, but I'm not really happy with the quality of my Shine 3

Convince me otherwise /g/
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>>57804951
I have access to a laser printer, but I think it's too small. Will probably laser cut a metal plate.

I will research hand wiring and follow that route then. Any pcb programming required?

>>57804794
Thanks man, those links will come in handy.
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>>57804994
I meant 3d printer
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>>57804994
I'm not sure what you mean with "pcb programming", but you'll have to set up the the firmware for your controller.

Most people use the TMK firmware or a variant thereof, matt3o wrote a guide on the TMK firmware over at deskthority.
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>>57804994
For handwiring you'll have to buy a Teensy 2.0 (or larger if you need more pins, total number of pins needed = number of rows of keys + number of columns of keys), program hasu's TMK firmware (https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard) for it and flash the files to the teensy.
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My Corsair K70 is beginning to doublestrike keys, and I don't game much anymore. Looking to replace it with something more typing oriented .

Rather not have LEDs and will probably throw blank keycaps on it. Tenkeyless is ideal, media buttons would be nice but not important.

Budget is ~$120.

>>57804989
>buying Razer

Neck yourself.
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>>57804861
>>57804907
It's the next 1337 Gaym3r keyboard. They're complete trash. On par with Razer.
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>>57805030
You can get arduino mini clones with an atmega32u4 for about four or five bucks on aliexpress. They provide the same functionality as a teensy. Only part I'm not quite sure about is flashing the firmware.

>>57805082
>Corshit fag talking shit about razer
Ok anon
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>>57805106
>implying I haven't learned my lesson
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>>57804989
Stay away from Razer.
>>57805082
>>57805106
>kiddiesize keyboard fans talking shit
Ok
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>>57805147
Sorry, I can't hear you over my numpad

>>57805134
And he soon will. You shouldn't tell people to kill themselves just because they're as stupid now as you once were.
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>>57804921
Thank you for the explanation. Guess I'll pass on the weeb caps, I don't care for the modifiers.
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>>57805106
>>57805030
This thread is gold, thanks a lot.
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Cheap Gateron switch tester anywhere?
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>>57805294
My, respectively our, pleasure. Come back any time.
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>>57804951
that doesn't look like wood
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>>57805765
I'm glad to hear that, but it actually is.
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>>57805790
Smooth as fuck. I'd actually like my case to be more wood-like and dark, maybe with some knots and everything.
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Is there a big difference in cherry vs gateron blues?
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>>57805805
you can use oils and finishes to darken it and highlight the grain or whatever

or just start with some nice hardwood instead of softwood if you have the tools for it
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>>57805805
Thanks!

The wooden texture has become a bit more apparent after I lacquered it, though it doesn't seem to show that well on pictures. You can see it quite well in person though.
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recommended mechanical keyboard around $100?

Prefer Brown or Blue.

Full keyboard
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>>57804951
How many boards do you actually have? And why haven't you sold all of them once you got the glorious HHKB. Is that not your favourite board?!
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>>57805891
>How many boards do you actually have?
Nine, though three of them aren't really in working condition due to a variety of reasons.

>why haven't you sold all of them once you got the glorious HHKB
Why would I, the others still get used.

>Is that not your favourite board?!
Not really, had you asked me about a week ago, I'd have said that the TADA68 is my favorite, but I've actually been using my HHKB again as of the past few days. I don't really have a favorite.
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>>57805944
What switches does your TADA68 have?
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Daily reminder that the best switch ever built(capacative BS) came out in 1981. Nothing today can even come close to this. This mechanical keyboard "community" is a fucking joke holy shit
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>>57806009
>Not Topre
Stop
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>>57805996
he uses gateron clears
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>>57806034
>topre
>superior to capacitive BS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>57805996
Like the other anon said, gateron clears.

>>57806009
Joke's on you, I'm nine boards in and I've been laughing ever since the first.
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>Budget
~$150
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
MX Brown
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
100% Full-Size
>Backlight
Doesn't matter

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=680
I was thinking about the Deck Hassium Pro since it ticks off my requirements and comes with PBT Doubleshots. I've read however, that they are made by Tai-Hao which is considered lower quality/thin according to the pastebin in the OP.

Would that be alright, or should I consider a cheaper main board like one of these in the $60-80 range:
http://www.outletpc.com/tz8311-rosewill-rk-9000v2-br-mechanical-keyboard.html
http://www.madepc.com/Cooler-Master-Quick-Fire-Xti-USB-Mechanical-Gaming-p/451004068-00.html

plus one of these Vortex PBT/Doubleshot keycap sets (assuming their profiles are compatible) for $40:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1329
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1947

Or is there a different model/suggestion I should look at?
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>>57806074
Get a Ducky One with dyesubbed PBT caps with something else than cherry browns.
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>>57806061
Non contact switches are superior.
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>>57806279
>Windows 10

You'd think someone with taste in keyboards who's also posting on /g/ 24/7 would know better.
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>>57806083
>something else than cherry browns.
This is going to be my first mech so I didn't want to pick a very exotic flavor switch. I'll keep the Ducky One in mind when it's released.

Also the Shine 6 will have PBT Doubleshots as well, what do you think about it? Where does the company's keycaps generally fit in with Vortex, Tai-Hao, etc?
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Where do I find a keyboard with cherry mx clear switches

I currently have browns but feel they are to lite but blues are too loud

>what do
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>>57806755
make your own
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>>57806770
then i have buy a bunch of shit

>soldering kit and a bunch of shit
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threadly reminder that the best keyboard ever made uses rubber dome technology.
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>>57806521
muh proprietary industry standard software

>>57806739
The Ducky one has been released already.

PBT doubleshots tend to have shitty legends. We'll see how they turn out once they're released, but for doubleshots: ABS > PBT

>>57806755
What this guy said >>57806770

Go buy a bunch of shit if need be.
Or just go buy a keyboard with clears, they're not that difficult to find. Though building one will be more fun.
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>>57806755
WASD

or make your own
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ISO layout is absolutely shite. All I want is these keys for my Pok3r in a UK layout.

>violentlyshakinggreenfrog.jpg
>mfw
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>>57804918
atreus will probably also be too weird for you, but it's a great keyboard
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>>57806914
just use ansi
it's objectively superior anyway
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>Budget
175$
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
MX Clear or MX Browns
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
sure
>Previous/current keyboards
ibm model m + pok3r vortex 3
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>>57806940
I'm sure it is...
but that means I've got to sell my existing one and buy a new Pok3r. Too much hassle I imagine.
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>>57806815
This is a really poor attempt at trolling anon.
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>>57806828
>muh vm
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>>57806828
where do i find one

>what's a good brand

>it might be fun but i live in a small apt and don't really have the space to tinker with all that stuff / i wish though
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>>57807115
I've used GNU/Linux previously and I see the appeal in it.
If something breaks for no apparent reason, I don't want to sift through forums to find a solution to my problem. I don't want to spend time fixing mistakes that I or others made that have no obvious solution.

Not to say that BotnetOS doesn't have problems like these, but it doesn't happen nearly as often as it did with GNU/Linux. I can very much see the appeal in tinkering with your OS, but I'd rather spend my time dealing with hardware rather than software, or at least deal with fixing my own software instead of the software of others.


>>57807123
I live in my room. The only thing you need is half a desk and some basic tools.

Depends on what you're looking for, mechanicalkeyboards.com has a bunch of different keyboards with clears.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=9&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off&show_acc=on
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wtf china
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>>57807269
>left hand navigation
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Alps caps when?
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>>57807486
I second this.

The only good alps caps that I've come across and that you can actually find without paying out of your ass are those on old apple keyboards
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>>57807486
never
matias can't even make good copies of the switches
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Is this alps mount?
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>>57807486
After good topre caps
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>>57807630
Topre has MX-style sliders though

Alps gets nothing.
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>>57804494
I got the Sakura reds for these
I have no idea about the quality of the caps themselves aside from them being PBT

but cant wait till fucking March to get them
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Just ordered a switch tester for 15 dollars with all 9 switches. Finally I can decide what to get.
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>>57807712
no topre no liife
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>>57807738
no tester, no topre
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>>57807046
what do you mean? do you have an argument as to how it's not the best keyboard ever or are you just stuttering as your mechanical-switch circlejerk worldview is being shattered?

your keyboard has less features than this one. features that would be considered necessary if people were taught to use them.
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>>57808528
so, this is what autism looks like...
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What does /mkg/ think about the Corsair Strafe RGB Keyboard w/ MX Silent Switches
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>>57808528
Features such as?
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>>57808538
no, autism is spending hundreds of dollars on keyboards because bandwagons and they sound funny when you push on the keys so that you can show them to anonymous people on lolicon image boards for internet points.

>>57808627
on-board remapping and macro support, requires only as many key presses as the buttons you are remapping/setting a macro on +2, no need for slow UI. objectively makes repetitive tasks faster.
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>>57807841
>no tester, no topre
Coolermaster has a tester with also topre
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>>57806828
Hmm, so until the verdict comes in for the Shine 6's PBT DSs, you can get either get the One in ABS Doubleshots (Advantage to a cleaner, more durable character legend), or PBT Dye-Sublimation (Advantage to keycap texture durability).

So overall is PBT Dye Sub > ABS Doubleshot, currently?
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What is the cheapest blank SP DSA set? Is there one under 65€ for an ergodox?
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>>57808581
>corsair
see the FAQ
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Are there any decent simple mechanical numpads with standard layouts, preferably programmable?
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>>57808736
I have a Ducky One with PBT keycaps and I love it. Now it should be noted that dye-sub legends do have a weakness and that is bleaching. It can be avoided by not leaving your keyboard out in direct sunlight. Unfortunately I did that and my S key began to bleach. This is the only key that had that happened to it so I don't mind
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>>57809074
Thanks for the reply. Didn't know about the bleaching issue, but since I don't have my system in window view that won't be a concern.
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>>57808790
This is it, you have to add the ergodox base set and modifier set separately your cart. It comes out to just under 70 if you include shipping

http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-pbt-abs-blank-keycap-sets/
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>>57809127
I got my Ducky One for cheap and I love it. The steel back plate is very sturdy and there are lots of programing options. I do wish there was some sort of software that helped manage it all. I got carried away the first time I began to mess around with it so I had to reset all the macros and layers. The nice thing about dye-sub keycaps is that they never wear out since the dye becomes a permanent part of it. It also has the advantage in that you can't feel the text giving it a smooth feeling across. The other advantage is that PBT is a much stronger, longer lasting plastic. It doesn't turn yellow over time like those old keyboards, which is good since I have white keycaps. As far as the bleaching issue is concerned, I wish I had known that could happen, but as it turned out it is actually a very common problem on Ducky dye-sub keycaps with usually just one or two keys bleaching. Its most likely a quality control issue since so far only that one keycap has had that issue after 5 months of use. I hope you can see it from the pic, but that S key looks lighter then the rest
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>>57808736
>So overall is PBT Dye Sub > ABS Doubleshot
Not really. PBT is good for dyesubs, ABS good for doubleshot keycaps. The "problem" with dyesub is that you can only have fonts darker than the keycaps material. Doubleshot allows you to mix any colors you like.
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>>57809374
Yeah, I can tell. Thanks for the closeup.

>>57809449
Okay.
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>>57809542
>Okay.
It's fine.
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>>57808528
>features
Think you mean gimmicks. Not even unique gimmicks.
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>>57807607
plox answer
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>>57810061
no
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>>57809374
>>57809074
Where can I find one of those? I really like that keyboard.
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>>57810061
I recognize that keyboard
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>>57810053
on-board, easy access remapping and macroing features? if you think these are gimmicks, you've never come across repetitive tasks in design, or simply don't do anything professional with a keyboard.

I'm not aware of any keyboards that have these features as well as sexy diagonal meme arrow keys.
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>>57810097
Its called a Ducky One and it comes with a variety of different flavors and styles.
this is the exact one I bought:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1685

And here are more options:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=1&switch=&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=17&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off


If you don't live in the US then just check out this to see if there is a distributor in your country, or near you

http://www.duckychannel.com.tw
/en/partners.html
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>>57810141
See any gaymening keyboard. Often have upwards of 12+ macro keys.
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>>57810279
Yes because those are the epitome of design and function.
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>>57810304
If you want gimmick shit like macro keys it is. What you seem to praise that piece of shit gateway keyboard for.
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>>57810226
OH BOY
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>>57810130
People shit on your keyboard but I love it. Looks comfy and minimal as possible.
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>>57810330
I don't own a gateway keyboard that's the other anon you are arguing with. Now most mech keyboards in the $100 price range have all those features and don't look like gaymer trash. Its a very standard industry practice that even old IBM keyboards had
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>>57810396
>minimal
>three different shift keys
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>>57810404
>keys always do what the caps say they do
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>>57810404
It doesn't have three shift keys, those are just after market key caps that didn't fit on the non standard layout. Now the keyboard is fully programmable so if you want you can make the whole thing nothing but shift keys

pic related is the default layout
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>>57810420
>tfw my keyboard does nothing
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>>57810404
I think they all do different things, maybe it was the keys that properly fit the layout op was going for.
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>>57810442
Oh I know but it got like three (you)s right off the bat.
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>>57810438
I'll never understand people who'll willingly pay $200 for a non-functional keyboard.
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>>57810461
I just watched someone do a build of a diy keyboard that had no cursor keys and after putting all of that work in he says "I miss the cursor keys" No shit dumbass.
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>>57810438
At least it must feel good doing nothing on Topre.
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>>57810476
at least they are still there on the numpad (if there is a numpad), or he could reprogram the keyboard
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>>57810348
get clears instead, you wont regret it
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worth buying this for 50 dollar just to get the keycaps and switches?
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>>57810461
meme points
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>>57810698
nope. The bottom row is non standard so you can only use the keycaps on corsair keyboards. Also its not all mechanical (pic related). Its a pain in the ass to desolder every switch. Just buy them individually on places like mechanicalkeyboards, techkeys, massdrop, etc.
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>>57810279
I'm not talking about keys set aside for macros via software support. I'm talking about easy access, on-board macroing hardware that can be applied to ANY KEY(hence the name, "anykey") extremely rapidly. I have around ten keys on my keyboard remapped, and I remap the tilde, tab and caps lock keys constantly when needing to use a symbol often that is awkward to type, extremely quickly and easily. it makes working objectively faster, and I'm not sure why it was abandoned as a standardized feature.
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>>57807702

I got it in black.

The real photos look better than I expected. I just wish you got two each of the special 1u keys.
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If l like blues yet want something that feels beefier are greens worth it?
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>>57810809
Because it's a stupid gimmick. Generally any program will have it's own proprietary macros.
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>>57810857
get a Unicomp instead, or just buy heavier springs for your blues since greens are just blues with a heavier spring
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>>57810860
are you not reading what I'm saying or something? it's objectively faster than software UI, making it a standard function of using the keyboard. it's a feature that does nothing but make the keyboard objectively more efficient and versatile. that is the opposite of what a "gimmick" is, it's an improvement upon the technology.

if you're not remapping/mapping macros daily, it's because you aren't using a keyboard that has efficient design to do so, aren't doing anything other than social interaction/writing/googling with your keyboard, or haven't taught yourself how to.
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>>57810647
but I already bought it...

Okay I'll buy an 80% with clears if you can find me one. I like the V80 TKL
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Amazon shipped my keyboard!

>mfw waiting for my keyboard in the mail
Top kek I always wanted to post this
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>>57810983
What is it?
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>>57811005
Memeforce 68 with gateron clears
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>Budget
$150-200
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
I've only used Greetech Blue from my DAS. I have pic related on the way.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
maybe, but if I can get some decent aftermarket keys I'd rather not.
>Previous/current keyboards
Das Keyboard 4C Professional Mechanical Keyboard (Greetech Blue)
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>>57810983
>>mfw waiting for my keyboard in the mail

>mfw
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What is the deal with mechanical keyboards? they are just noisy and bulky
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>>57810940
to be honest I wish my programmable keyboard had software. With 5 layers and 450 different possible macros that can be recorded or programmed it gets overwhelming. I only have like 10 macros programmed, and the only thing stopping me from making more is that it takes a while having to switch between each layer to program. So if I want to switch stuff around I can't do so easily. If there was some sort of software that let me drag around my macros across the layers it would be sweet.
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>>57811073
...How long after is it gonna take to IMPORT directly?
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>>57811093
>bulky
what is the 1985? Most modern mechaninical keyboards are slim and sometime take up less space then rubber domes with the same layout. As for sound there are mechanical keyboards that are even quieter then rubber domes like matias qc.
There are plenty of cheap mechanical keyboards around 30 bucks, so its not like only the rich can afford them.
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Anyone have trouble with the Rosewill RK-9000v2? Mine just arrived, but the slightest touch to the cable makes it lose power. I'm certain it's the mini USB port in the board itself that's either defective or loose. I have submitted an RMA request to Newegg and will be shipping it soon.
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>>57811209
Those angle cables suck. Good thing its detachable.
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>>57811098
gotta force yourself to use it or you'll never start using a really nice function of a keyboard. that's what I had to do to start actually using the macro and remapping functions on my anykey. I'm probably being nowhere near as close to efficient as is possible with this, I kind of wish there was some writing on advanced use of on-board macroing.

going to find out how this one works in a few days. see that on-board calculator? that's an example of a gimmick.
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>>57811049
looks like Ducky is restocking so pick what you think looks the best
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=1&switch=&size=Full+Size&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off
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>>57811242
Is it the cable itself or is it the keyboard?
I want to love this keyboard, but I can't deal with this whole connectivity dealio.
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>>57811281
that keyboard kinda reminds me of this lol. I know IBM used to make emulator keyboards that where programmable. Maybe you can use some of the guides they had as some sort of inspiration.
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>>57810940

You're a fucking idiot to say the least.
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>>57811282
any suggestions on the switch?
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>>57811522
If you liked the clickyness of blues but want something heavier then get greens. If you don't like clicky switches and want a subdued switch with very little tactile feedback then get browns. If want something that's tactile and doesn't have a click then get clears or tactile greys. If you want a linear switch with no tactile feedback then get reds or blacks. Reds are lighter then blacks.

Personally I like clicky switches so I went with blues
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Fuck small board, who needs a mouse anyway?
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>>57810857

Greens feel beefier.

You could also try buckling springs.
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>>57810857
Get Alps.
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>>57810857
dell at101w for 40 bucks
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>>57811684
I want a "rule" key now.
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>>57812112
just what kind of person do you think you are?
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>>57806940
Is there a name for the keyboard layout that uses ANSI layout, but has function keys above the number row?

The only one I know of offhand that has this is the Noppo Choco and I don't want any of those switch types.
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>>57812379
Any TKL or fullsize board.

Are you sure you know what ANSI means?
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Remember when the cheapest tenkeyless mech was $100?
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>>57812430
That's what happens when a fad blows up.
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what are my options for weeb keys
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>>57812554
Japanese keyboards or XDA Milestone
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>>57812417
>heh, do you even know what ANSI means
>Any tkl keyboard

Yeah, it simply defines the layout of a very few subset keys between US and international board layouts and the standard requires an function row, which the post I replied to doesn't have.

I specifically wanted to know what the name of a layout using the image I replied to would be called if it also had a function row on top of the number row -- the layout the noppoo uses.

Good job going full smugbeard. Here's you're (you)
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>>57812584
You could have asked for that instead of ANSI with function keys. Anyway a 65% + function row is generally referred to as a 75%
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>>57812554
originativeco should have some sets left
it's called modern beige
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>>57812554
oh look this question again

http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-otaku-keyset/
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334469
https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/xda-milestone/
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>>57812554
Suicide is a pretty good option.
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>>57807236
a bit late but thanks m8
ill look into it
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good night /mkg/
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>Q: Will you be running a R2 for this GB?
>A: Most likely not and we will be limited to 100 sets.
Yeah, because who wants money right?
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>>57804284
Just bought a noppo chink mini (brown switches) to try out the mech keyboard meme. What am I in for except for paying 35 quid for orange keycaps?
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>>57813649
Wait what is this for?
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>>57813722
duck viper v2

they're highly sought after $310 custom kits, that are at least double the price they could be, yet for some reason they don't take more than a handful of orders every two fucking years
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side note while i'm already bitching

https://www.keyclack.com/product/gb-sa-1965

it's so fucking annoying i'm probably going to have to resell this set, or cancel the order because the ISO set won't meet MOQ because this set is so fucking expensive, because it's being run off Massdrop for no good reason.

this order was $120 more than one of my SP sets, and $85 than my other, that's inexcusable.

why do i keep falling for memes :^)
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>>57813649

Limited run so they can mark it up like fuck.

Plus they can produce extras and sell them 'privately' on places like geekhack for an even HIGHER markup.
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>>57813889
use a better keyboard layout :^)
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>tfw didn't get the Topre Realforce meme when my shitbay market was flooded with boards for ~100USD
fuck, I thought this was the average price at the time.

>tfw no mxgreen board
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>>57813997
i would prefer ANSI on any keyboard except standard 60%.

Anything below 60% isn't even remotely standardized, and anything above 60% wouldn't really benefit from the extra keys to be able to rebind. but on a 60% ideally the backspace, left shift, and right shift are all split, and ISO is the closest to this for me

¯\_( ˙͜>˙)_/¯
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>>57813889
it probably would have done well on mass drop

but that price is beyond unreasonable
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>Budget
$100-150 (AUD) $75-120 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Australia (East Coast)
>Preferred switch type
Blues (Clicky and Tackile right?)
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80%~
>Backlight
Not really, but not a deal breaker
>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600.....

Any keyboard suggestions/good vendors would be greatly appreciated, I figure its finally time to upgrade :)
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>>57814157
no kidding. which is too bad because it's probably my favorite colorway that's come from them.

>Prices for SA fluctuate based on demand from what I've noticed. I'd prefer GMK, but people want SA. Also, MD does their own sorting at a faciltiies, but I'm a 1 man team, thus the difference in pricing.

It's also a complete bullshit reason for the price increase ^^
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>>57814229
one man team eh
hopefully he doesn't take the money and run
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>>57814267
naw the guy who runs keyclack is very dependable
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Best o rings for red switches? Looking to reduce as much distance as possible, I'm bottoming out on just about everything.
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>>57805790
>wearing flip flops near chisels
>precious keyboard near sawdust and wood shavings
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>>57814474
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=78

Just take note of the size of the big o-rings here.
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>>57815181
So I can"t use the large ones in a standard cherry mx board?
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>>57815647
Sure you can.
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>>57815690
Says "Cherry profile keycaps could only use the small ones," unless that doesn't mean what I think it does.
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>>57815723
Cherry profile is shorter than standard OEM profile, is why.
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>>57815781
Oh gotcha. Just got it today so still familiarizing on the terms.
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>>57815176
I am one with the edge
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>>57814229
Last I checked, SP are backlogged as fuck on SA and any new sets people come up with won't be done until about 2018, maybe that's got something to do with it.
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>>57816586
>putting chocolate on your $300 keyboard

good job anon. can I call you anon even though you're a tripfag? reminds me i wanted to disable that shit
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>>57816908
Of course you can. I'm not your boss, nor do I really care what you call me, I can already tell when you're replying to me thanks to the post number anyway.
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>>57815781
Would the Corsair K65 be considered a standard layout?
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>>57806940
Sure it is buddy. Sure
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>>57813169
This triggers me so much

The keyboard is upside down for him
>>
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/rama-m10-a
Hopefully with the success of this beautiful little macro keypad, RAMA can eventually get full keyboards done up. Will be sexy a f
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>>57817516
Friendly reminder that you will die before it gets delivered to you.
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>>57817534
>you will never look at something so beautiful and out of your league that it makes you regret your other choices in life enough to lash out people who have better taste than you
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>>57816986
None of the corsair keyboards have a standard layout
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>>57817516
Oh man, I can't wait for keyboards with bulky aluminum cases and PCB mounted switches.

Truly the pinnacle of good design.
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>>57817580
Its like im back in the 80s again
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>>57817580
The important thing is that even the PCB is pretty.
No detail has been overlooked! So sexy~
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>>57817617
Except for that small detail known as functionality.
That thing is like the macbook of keyboards.
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>>57817625
>functionality
And here I thought I was in the keyboard-as-fetish-object general known as /mkg/
Fuck, sorry my mistake.

On a sidenote Macbooks are pretty awesome, though I'm more a Surface Pro guy myself.
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>>57817644
>AVR
confirmed for trash
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>>57817644
Sorry to tell you, but you're in the thread for good design.
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>>57817658
Considering that you've yet to post anything showing so much as decent design, I'm afraid that I may have some doubts as to your claim.
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>>57817677
>I have some doubts
You don't even exist.
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>>57817677
I'm sorry anon, I didn't realize that you're blind.
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>>57817686
You got me bro. I'm actually (you).
>>57817708
That's alright. I didn't realize you were mentally handicapped, either. We all make mistakes :)
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>>57817708
>Implying HHKB looks good
Tada68 looks good but the HHKB is bad design and looking all in one.
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So my Ducky Shine 3 Slim died. Is there anything else like it available? (QWERTZ, Backlit, TKL and MX-Blues)
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>>57817751
>Biggest following for a keyboard ever
>Akin to a cult
>Most of it due to aesthetics

Nah bruh shit's ugly xD
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>>57817751
>implying it doesn't

>>57817749
>mentally handicapped
I dunno man, I'm not the one spending 100 bucks on a gimped numpad with pcb-mounted switches.
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>>57813169
where to buy hot pink caps
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>>57817766
>Most of it due to aesthetics
WRONG

>(Can) Come(s) with T H I C C PBT keycaps
>Mod or gateron switches
>Nice overall design and manages to fit alot of buttons into a relatively small board
>Fully Programmable

What's there not to like?
Only vthing negative for me is that there is no ISO option.
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>>57817855
Are you stupid?
I meant the hhkb

Nobody gives a shit about the tada
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>>57817862
No are you fucking stupid?

>I talked about how I think Tada looks good and how HHKB looks like bad
>You have some greentext about why X is popular because of looks then at the end you say nah bruh its ugly XDXDXD

And since I said that the Tada looks good not the HHKB, it was only logical that you were referring to the Tada as the cult board.
Checkmate atheists
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>>57817968
>expecting rubberdome enthusiasts to be reasonable and conversational
jokes on you laddy
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>>57817968
>Looks like bad

Why do I keep wasting my time with Indians
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>>57818041
>Implying I'm the Indian
Nice try Pajeet
>>
I picked up a RK61 on amazon for 40 pounds that arrived yesterday, my thoughts:

+ Kailh blues feel just like my Cherrys, everything works
+Very solid, sturdy llittle keyboard, weight is just right
+Everything works
+I like the layout of the arrow keys

- Interface (especially changing between bluetooth and wired) is weird and fiddly, the lack of a manual doesn't help. After a little bit of frustration i got it connected to bluetooth and now everything works fine.
- Keycaps are meh. They feel ok but the font and legends are butt ugly, prolly gonna replace them.
- Not programmable

For $50ish it's a good buy i think.
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>>57818130
Also, the ugly rainbow leds DO turn off all the way, unlike what some online reviews imply. Thank god.
>>
Just got my Motospeed CK104. First mechanical keyboard. Works like a charm.
>>
I just got my first mech in the mail that I ordered on cyber monday. Whats the best way to learn how to type?
>>
>Budget
~$130, wiggle room for good deals

>Location
USA

>Preferred switch type
Only ever used reds, willing to try new ones. I do more typing than gaming these days.

>Layout
QWERTY

>Form factor
80% preferred

>Backlight
Preferably not

>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70
>>
I don't get it, everybody and their mothers are making switches nowadays and the market is beyond saturated. And yet, mechanical keyboard prices keep going up and up, why is that?
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>>57818314
Supply and demand
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>>57818314
>mechanical keyboard prices keep going up and up
The hell are you talking about, you can get mechanical keyboards for cheaper than ever.

30 bucks chinkboards weren't even a thing a year ago.
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>>57818314
>Tripfag is stupid
In other news water is wet.

Keyboards price are going down if anything, nowadays 50 bucks get you a legit kb with legit switches
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>>57818314
You can get the tomoko for under 30 bucks now, it used to be 60. Where do you live?
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>>57818274
Just get a Unicomp for 80 bucks. They now sell them on amazon, but with limited custamizability compared to their website. I recommend the ultraclassic, but the clasic is just as good
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Any rubber dome aficionados here?

We're a small group of individuals boldly going against the grain in striving for tactile perfection. We prefer the gentle, organic feedback of a rubber dome over the robotic, cold click of soulless mechanical keyboards. The feeling is gentle and intoxicating - like typing on clouds. And best of all? In comparison to mechanical switches, rubber domes are almost inaudible.

Keyboard manufacturers prefer selling mechanical keyboards because they're much more expensive. They line their pockets with the money of clueless consumers who are unaware or simply do not care for an alternative.

I hope there are like-minded individuals here. Perhaps we could have daily rubber dome keyboard threads where we can share photos and anecdotes about our devices. It's important that we stick together, us, users of these particular type of input devices. We just have so much in common as people and we should band together.
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>>57818461
Is this a joke. The biggest meme here is $300 rubber domes
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>>57818461
already got some rubber dome fans here sempai
see >>57817777
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>>57818461
Rubber domes are shit, with the exception of mitsumi, btc, and ank
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>>57818461
>like typing on clouds
That'd be gateron clears for you

Typing on rubber domes feels like typing on a dome-shaped, rubber-like material.
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>>57818461
>Any rubber dome aficionados here?

Of course
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>>57818432
I don't really like how they look though, which is important to me, and they sound too loud when I watch typing demos.

I don't want to be one of those people that wants some retarded keyboard with only the home row, just for the sake of aesthetics, but I'd really like more modern looking one.

I've been looking into 80% keyboards from WASD but I can't find too many online resources attesting to their build quality.
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>>57818416
>>57818393
Those are not available here in France as far as I know. But how come all the popular brands (that includes gaming brands) keep jacking up their prices?
>>57818412
Not a tripfag, in other news anon makes false assumptions in order to cope with its inferiority complex.
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>>57818553
Wasd has some good bare bones keyboards, but their keycaps suck. If you go onto reddit you can see posts of people with wasd keycaps wearing out after heavy use. Keycaps arent even all that expnsive, you can get them on massdrop or mechanicalkeyboards for between 30-40 bucks
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>>57818594
http://www.ldlc.com/
Enjoy
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>>57818594
>Those are not available here in France as far as I know
You can get them from china with free shipping.

The general keyboard market is not the keyboard market in your country. Keyboards in the general market have been continuously getting cheaper, your meme country is a different piece of business.
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>>57818594
Just be glad you dont live in brazil where an 80€ keyboard costs 160€
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>>57818891
to be fair brazilians deserve it for being brazilian
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>>57809074
>Estimated Arrival: 01/14/17*

ree
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Does anyone else reverse the space bar on their keyboard?
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>>57805418
Some KPC testers on ebay and aliexpress with various switches. Popularly cherry, gats and kailh
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>>57820019
Sit up straight faggot.
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>>57818393
What is the best $30 buck chinkboard?
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>>57820262
Tomoko I'd say, but I'm not very well versed in 30 buck chink boards. That's just the one that everyone who's looking for 30 buck chinkboards seems to shill around here.
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>>57820618
I can't wait NOT to like gateron clears so I can return the kb and buy printed caps for my hhkb
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>>57819596
Should have bought them when they were in stock :^)
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>>57820650
Did you experience cherry clear?
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>>57821226
gat clears are 35g linear

mx clears are 55g tactile

why would trying mx clear help me?
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Does anyone know if the Filco Minila uses 2u stabs or custom 3u stabs for its 3u spacebar?
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>>57821293
Gateron actually makes clear linears and clear tactiles. You don't see the tactile ver much though.
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>Budget
Not really an issue but I would prefer to keep it under $130. Under $100 even better

>Location (continent at least)
USA

>Preferred switch type
Not sure, this will be my first, but I use my computer mainly for programming, no games.

>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
can't decide between 65 and 75 key, do those of you without the function keys miss them at all?

>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
None, stock keyboard on thinkpad t520
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>>57804284
/g/uys. I just got my first IBM Model M. Oh my god.
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>>57822289

A few things which will help direct your purchase:

>Form factor
Fullsize? Tenkeyless? 60% or <60%? These are some things you should take into account now. A decision now will help limit your search and enable you to find the best bang for your buck.

>Switch type
While this can be hard to conceptualize without having used a mechanical switch, it is still worth thinking about. Do you want a light or heavy typing experience? Quiet or loud? Linear (straight up and down motion without feedback) or tactile?

Cherry browns are consistently recommended as a good first switch, as they are in many ways a jack of all trades. I personally do not care for them, but many do.

GL
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>>57822445
holy shit i want that but in a dark color scheme
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>>57822506
Closest thing you can get to that: http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40P4A
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>>57822445
Did it come with ps2?
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>>57822591
Yeah it's PS2. My rig has PS2, didn't even need a converter!
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>Budget
$120
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Brown > Blue
>Layout
ANSI/US
>Form factor
tenkeyless, 84 key or equivalent
>Backlight
welcome but not required
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>>57818461
I've been telling these poor, narrow-minded fools this every thread for a while now. yet they still resign themselves to "/mkg/", like a modern day christian trimming literature on natural selection from their classrooms they will not allow rubber dome to be a part of their echo chambers. pitiable.
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>>57823466
pretty sure rubber domes are the biggest meme here
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>>57818492
do you have any problems with mistyping on gateron clears? mx blues seems to be the sweet spot for me, i hit a lot of keys accidentally with anything lighter.
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>>57823631
Not at all, it took me few days to get used to them, but it hasn't been a problem ever since.

>tfw running out of pictures to post in a single thread
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>>57823705
why not just tuck your keyboards in your bed, then take a picture of each individual one
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>>57812430
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DPCJADC/

$20
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>>57823776
But that'd be boring.

And the bedsheets I'm currently using aren't half as aesthetic as these either.
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>>57823807
put all of your keyboards on your naked, lubed up naked body and take a pic.
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>>57823941
I'm not sure what kind of fantasies you have, but I can assure that I'm not a cute femboy.
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>>57823963
your sheets might be aesthetic, but I really like your wall. I've always dreamt of having an apartment/studio in that style.
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>>57824153
that's a pretty shitty wall. Thicc plaster on thicc cement boards is the best way to go
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>>57824153
Thanks, you're probably the first person here who actually likes my wall. Everyone else asks me if I live in a prison.
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>I have crippling depression and keyboards are the only things that bring me joy to my life. Paying the invoice for this keyboard brought a fleeting moment of meaning to my life.
wew
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>>57817617
With this numpad I could type my credit card number into massdrop orders with more class and elegance.
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>>57824271
>Dat crow

Jesus Christ I'd shiver
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>>57824363
Oh don't worry, they're normally twice as big as that thing. They're damn smart birds too for that matter.
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>>57824457
No the one on top left of the pic looks bigger and real.

Stuffed?
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>>57824502
Nope, that's the same one you're seeing in the picture you just replied to. Though I do have one stuffed bird around here.
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farewell old friend
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>>57824640
What are you doing to it? :(
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>>57824675
Handing it off to my friend tomorrow
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Where can I get some nice wrist rests for my keyboard?
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>>57824895
use a small towel, make your own or pay out of your ass for some wooden "artisan" wrist rest
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>>57824940
Jesus. I think I'll keep that picture just for how horrible it turned out.
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>>57824895
Step 1: Go to amazon
Step 2: Search keyboard Wrist rest
Step 3: Buy a wrist rest
Step 4: ????
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>>57824963
why do you have porous concrete and it's not even plastered
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>>57824697
Can I be your friend and get nice custom keyboards too?
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keyboards sleeping general thread
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>>57825078
He rents a shitty apartment?
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>>57824940
nice keyboard m8. This one is mine
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>>57825095
normal usage is for industrial halls

or those are weird bricks. but, still, no fucking plaster but plastic painted.
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Thinking about getting a 60%, views on the pok3r vs the kc60 or others? The kc60 is on mass drop right now

Pic is current keyboard
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>>57825078
I don't know, it's been like this for as long as I can remember

>>57825091
sleep well clacker

>>57825088
Sure, your options are:
1. Come here, buy me a beer and become my friend
2. Commission me to build you a custom keyboard, though I'd rather wait with taking commissions until I've done at least one more build

Though I'll be glad to help you with building your own keyboard, free of charge ofc

>>57825119
That's a fast keyboard.
Do you type at 1K WPM?
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>>57825119
great pic
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>>57825270
how much would you charge for a build of a 60%, for example? Just curious, not gonna buy.
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>>57825270
If here is in America I can hopefully do that eventually
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>>57825290
Hard to say honestly.
Assuming a build with a 3D printed case and 3D printed plate (3D printed ABS is actually sturdy as shit) and a PCB that I'd design and mill, I'd say I'd charge about 100 bucks or so. That includes everything from designing the thing to putting it together to the point at which it's a functional keyboard.
100 bucks for the work, plus the materials, so excluding the switches, about 115 bucks or so. I'm not including the cost for the switches in the calculation since switches tend to vary quite a bit in pricing. The buyer would have to source their own keycaps for obvious reasons.

That'd be for a fully programmable 60% with a run-of-the-mill pok3r style design.
Of course, I'd be quite glad to do something more unconventional, like a PCB and case for some custom layout or any kind of other unconventional design. The price would be something to discuss on basis of what the customer wants, and how complex the design is.

Pic related is a prototype I printed today. Not a commission or anything, but me and another guy are both working on single-hand vertical keyboards.

Other than that, I'm currently thinking about my next build. I have some neat ideas as to what the central points of the design will be, but I'm still quite undecided in terms of layout and switches.

>>57825514
Here is in the mountainous middle of Europe, though should you ever make it here, I'll gladly invite you for one.
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Can someone ban the one autistic faggot who keeps posting in this thread? Seems like a third to a half of all replies are him.
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>>57825945
no
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>>57825965
at least keep your trip on so I can filter you
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>>57825978
will do friend-o
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>>57826212
>>57826212
>>57826212
new thread
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