Why don't Europoors have anything like Silicon Valley?

a really expensive area where a bunch of hipsters gather?

we're working on it

Because europe is quickly becoming irrelevant in the global economy thanks to the european union.

>>57773749
Shit

I think you might be a retard anon

>>57773698
They do. It's called Munich.

but we do just on a smaller scale
not nearly as many faggots and pajeets though

>>57773749
lmao keep believing that burger. You will still buy our stuff and eat our shit because your own articles are crap.

Its called Estonia
Invented of Skype! Bravo!

>>57773781
Nothing I own is European.

>>57773770
no.
t. live in Munich

We do. It's called Europe.
Germans are the engineers, without which you can't do shit in Silicon Valley.
Slavs are the mathematicians and programmers.
Scandinavians and Swiss are the bankers.
The Swiss, French, and Brits are the scientists.
The rest of Europe is a mix.

And whole of Europe has better Internet than Silicon Valley, even some 2nd world and 3rd world countries.

Why doesn't Grease or Binland contribute anything? Huh.

I think Binland made some phone once but they haven't been relevant since.

>>57773781
I don't own anything made in europe and I'd be hard pressed to find anything european at my local store.

>>57773870
That's great anon I don't own anything made in the US either

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>>57773818
>Brits are the scientists.

>>57773870
I bet you've used a microprocessor from Europe at some point in your life.

>>57773796
everything you use was invented in america

>>57773781
Not him, but the only goods and/or materials made in the EU around here are things that people brought back from vacation...I have never seen anything besides speciality and novelty gifts made in the EU for sale.

>>57773947
USA USA USA

>>57773797

You're using t. wrong

Should have been t. Munich resident

t. Internet police

Tech is more spread out in europe meaning you can live where you want, house prices (in most places) aren't massively inflated because people have to work there and the autism isn't isolated to one particular area.
I can pick a location before I pick a company to apply for.

>>57773929
I bet you've used... I don't know... Facebook, Google, a OS, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Java, Photoshop, 4chan. Probably also your computer and your phone

>>57773818
>Germans are the engineers
I hate this meme, I really hate it.

We prefer to spread scientific culture to every student throughout the whole country instead of concentrating it on a local community of elected (rich) few.

>>57774031
It is not a meme they over engineer for no reason,it like they want to Jew u

>>57774036
aka socialists

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>>57773818
Amerifats on suicide watch!

>>57774031
They are. Look how much fun they have building that railway station.

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>>57773948
>not using german engineering
Maybe Pajeet will help you.

>>57773698
>>>/int/

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>>57774024
>all this cancer

Should i be grateful? Maybe white people invented in the US too.

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>>57774024
>naming burger sites when europe created the world wide web

>>57773818
>and Brits are the scientists.

Not anymore, EU is getting rid of as many British Scientists as possible.

>>57774031
Relax Salomon.

>>57773698
We don't need to combine all big tech companies into one area because we actually have good internet connections available in the majority of the continent, unlike in the USA.

>>57773929
What European company even makes ICs anymore?
I can only think of Siemens.
Not sure if Phillips still does.

>>57774182
Isn't Phillips a japanese company?

>>57773796
>Nothing I own is European.

The USA and Canada were founded by Europeans.

>>57774209
Does it sound like a Japanese name to you?

It's a Dutch company

>>57774182

STMicroelectronics, on top of my head

>>57773698

Then the Big One happens, and it will happen, that's gonna big a big Death Valley.

>>57774134
How do you access it? With a mac or a PC?

>>57774182
well most of europes chipmaking companies where siemens before really
think infineon

but NXP for example, thats dutch
little company called ST Micro thats like french italian
then theres that tiny tiny fabless cpu company
i think they are called ARM

>>57774209

I'm pretty sure they are NXP now

>>57774182

fucking ARM holdings does?

>>57774252
Oh, for some reason I thought they were another Texan company.
I even have several STM8 and 32 dev boards lying around.

>>57774134
But the US Department of Defense was the one behind the first contracts for things like ARPANET. Europe wasn't involved in that m8


>>57774213
By that logic, Toyota's cars are American because it was the US who reconstructed Japan after WWII

Using that same logic, everything from China is actually Mongolian because the Mongols had conquered China

>>57774293
I thought they don't do any manufacturing?

>>57774268
so we all bow to the chinese is what you are saying ?

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>>57774182
IC isn't rocket science.

>>57774235
Yes it does

>>57774268
Again, Europe laid the foundations of computing :^)

>>57774330

they don't but they still make amazing dosh and high tech chips

>>57774310

Dude .. niggers everywhere because homo sapiens originated in africa.

>>57774367
except they don't actually "make" them

>>57774359
And? They didn't create the internet, nor did they create any good modern computers. Stop moving the goalposts, your logic is shit.

If you believe the internet is European because Europeans made the first programmable computer, then allow me to remind you that the number system needed for these computers and the internet to function was first put into place by Arabs, so isn't the internet Arabic?

Stop digging in your history textbook to try and defend your failing continent, don't you have to go make sure Ahmed isn't being too rough while raping your wife?

>>57774342
>ins't rocket science
In which the EUA is unquestionably far better btw

>>57774444
Quads of truth

>>57774310
>But the US Department of Defense was the one behind the first contracts for things like ARPANET. Europe wasn't involved in that m8

Maybe, but an European invented telephone exchange, which made landlines possible, which made the internet possible.

>By that logic, Toyota's cars are American because it was the US who reconstructed Japan after WWII

Toyota was founded before WW2, and even post-WW2 it had Japanese people building cars there, not americans.

>Using that same logic, everything from China is actually Mongolian because the Mongols had conquered China

Chinese people existed before Mongolians invaded.

USA people did not exist however. They are descendants of European outcasts and African slaves. Likewise how Australia as it is today was built up of prisoners exiled from the British empire.

>>57774310
>By that logic, Toyota's cars are American because it was the US who reconstructed Japan after WWII
>Using that same logic, everything from China is actually Mongolian because the Mongols had conquered China

By this logic whole USA is sideproduct of EU Americakun

>>57774444
>being this triggerd
>>>/pol/

>>57773698

More importantly: why doesn't Silicon Valley look like Manhattan?

S.V. is the most boring shithole on the planet. I interviewed for a position in Fremont and couldn't believe how fucking long it took to drive there from Oakland.

BART is disgusting and shitty. CalTrans is slightly nicer, but they still only do the absolute minimum possible to meet legislated requirements. Like the car they "built" for bicycles. All the did, quite literally, was pull out half the seats. Then you just lean your bike against the wall of the car, or against other bikes. How the fuck are you supposed to get your bike out if there are four more stacked against it?

Rent is absolutely insane, and forget about a mortgage unless you're willing to buy an absolute shithole (e.g. cracked foundation requiring and all-cash purchase because nobody will finance it) in a terrible neighborhood. Your only hope is to hit it big in the startup lottery. The only people under 50 in the Bay Area that I know who own homes are people who got *extremely* lucky and got in on a huge IPO. For example, the Googler who started literally a month before they IPO'd.

And the money. Holy shit, it attracts the worst people. All the Project Managers and Managers I had were profoundly incompetent. They just got into the game hoping to rake in money. Then the devs, who get flogged to death in the interview process, and have relentless downward pressure on their salaries, are stuck picking up the slack for them. Like the idiot CEO I had who would make ludicrous promises to people when he demo'd the product, then he seriously thought we would work 14 hour days through the weekend to make his absurd promises a reality.

Ugh. Some of the worst kind of people are drawn to S.V. like flies to shit.

So fuck that. S.V. is the last thing countries should hope to attain. Instead, they should focus on infrastructure (including Internet) to enable geographically diverse development.

>>57774444
>don't you have to go make sure Ahmed isn't being too rough while raping your wife?

Don't you have to go make sure your World Trade Centers are not being hit by airplanes? Oh wait.

You can't even fart here in Europe without breaking few regulations. How are you going to build something like Silicon Valley?

>>57774469

Oh, you're gonna be THAT autistic as to only accept origins?


Then as >>57774381 said, do you believe we are all niggers because humans originated in Africa?


>57774486
>Tfw you know you're full of BS so you link me to /pol/

Lol xD nice one anon! I'm gonna upvote that #fire roast to the front page XD!

>>57774494
>posted from my apartment in Paris

>>57774444
*Persians not Arabs.

>>57774542
Sorry, it's been a while since I've looked at that

>>57774031
Same. It's rare to find something that was engineered in Germany that isn't a total piece of shit overengineered shit.

>>57774486

Refer to >>57774537

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>>57774537
>/pol/niggers shitting up the thread again

ebin redpill bro. HEIL HITLER, KAMERAD!

>>57774560
Persians are cool guys. Don't ever compare them to the subhuman Arabs.

>>57774599
Sorry bud, I'm no /pol/lack

>>57774444
Why don't you go make america great again and let us alone.

>>57773781
>You will still buy our stuff
Like what? Everything /g/ related is made in the USA by US companies.
>eat our shit
Like what?
Europe is chock full of US restaurant chains, you all eat American burgers, probably not a commie cocksucker like yourself, but most of you do, otherwise they would've pulled back out of your cesspit a long time ago.

>>57773796
A lot of the technology you use would not exist without European scientists.

>>57774638
But I didn't vote Trump

Also, you're pretty ballsy to come on an American site and ask Americans to leave, all 3 of your friends must be so proud of you!

>>57774620
I actually don't know any Persians, but I do know they hate Arabs (for a good reason)

>>57774699
A lot of the technology you use would not exist without (insert literally any continent besides Antarctica) scientists.

>>57774653
Yea your fatass fastfood chains have spread to Europe, are you proud now? But I see, youre just jealous that you dont have a stable career and a stable future, cause you cant even go to college without getting shot by some fatass with a gun.

>>57774731
>are you proud now
I'm not even american, but if I were I would be. I literally know of no EU restaurant chain, do they even exist? All Europe has to offer is Nutella and shitty IKEA
>youre just jealous that you dont have a stable career and a stable future,
So much projection in just a single post. Wow.

>>57774731
I've always wondered why Europeans cared so much about America. What's the point of your slander? Why do we have to be like you?

>>57774731
Wow, that's quite the ironic statement considering I'm posting from my college dorm, currently interning with Dell, which is where I plan to work after college. Did I mention I've never seen a gun on campus with the exception of law enforcement?

Oh also, I'm 6'1" and 160 pounds, so keep telling me how fat I am.

>>57774769
Inferiority complex.

>>57774769
You dont have to be like us, in the end, youre all just europeans who just scared native americans away.

>>57774787
>Did I mention I've never seen a gun on campus with the exception of law enforcement?
You say that like it's something to be proud of. I never understood the trust people in just a few people having guns.

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>>57773818
>Germans are the engineers

>>57773947
Not phones.
Not cars.
Not computers.

>>57774830
Then why are you so angry? Jealousy? What is it that makes you obsess over us and why can't you leave us alone?

>>57774832
I'm not proud of it actually, I identify as a /k/ommando. I'd be carrying, but I'm not 21 :/

I was simply stating that to again prove just how wrong Europeans are when it comes to describing the US.

>>57774857
>America asking others to leave it alone
Kek

>>57773818
Gate of bait.

>>57774899
Are you going to answer the question?

>>57774857
Well, Im definitely not jealous. I guess Im just angry, especially knowing that theres probably going to be a 3rd world war thanks to the US. I just care about me and my family's future, thats all.

We do, it's called Eastpoint Business Park

>>57774911
I'm not the guy you were asking.

>>57774899
So you're just a pathetic loser, then? Don't take it out on us, be productive.

>>57773698
Because Silicon Valley is a giant scam scheme with 99% of all companies not making any money at all and europe actually has laws against scam

>>57774915
America isn't going to cause WW3 anymore than anywhere else. Half the time it's your Europeans begging for World Police and bitching when we finally are able to convince our politicians to stop that shit.

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Netherlands here. How do foreign countries even compete?

>>57774837

Somebody 'shop that so it says "Slavic Air" and has a dark blue body with white stripes down the wings like a tracksuit.

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>>57773698
>Why don't Europeans have a massively-inflated bubble like we do :^(
>Why aren't Europeans so retarded to build a fourth of the cane their entire existence leans on with companies that will evaporate instantly in the next crash :^((

protip fellow amerilards: Not ONE of the top companies in your IT sector meets the output to justify the current capitalization. Google's main revenue, ads, are already dying. Microsoft is releasing shitty, unoptimized OS that other people code for free and in a better quality. The sole thing that makes it even remotely relevant is DirectX and the gaming industry, which will soon be replaced by the coalition of companies that are trying to make OpenGL better. The entire office package has already been made free and open source via several different ways. The rest of the sector is experiencing an ever-rising piracy both domestically, and especially in the rest of the world where the government cannot enforce copyright efficiently. Social Medias are becoming harder and harder to monetize. Games are transitioning towards lower-quality f2p models because people simply refuse to pay anymore. Moore's law is starting to break. An incoming stagnation in the whole AI industry and a capital flight will follow once people realize that they got baited into investing in statistical machines, not actual AI. Cloud services promote industrial hardware over personal hardware, which will lead to stagnation in the latter. And so on.

>>57773698
Because United Kingdom. They are why we can't have good things.

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>>57774915
>heres probably going to be a 3rd world war thanks to the US
How the fuck did you even come to that conclusion? Seriously interested in your train of thought.

>>57774927
Here's your (You)

>>57774967
Here's your (you), poor Euro.

>>57773818
Europe VS America arguments always make me laugh. Why you ask? Because it's so amusing that so many little Euros think they're superior to the US, yet just to make a comparison between their land and the US they have to include the entire continent of Europe.

Ever seen a UK vs US? It's an absolute shitshow, same as any euro country vs US. Only the biggest idiot would actually be proud of winning an argument of achievement versus Americans when they have to include their entire fucking continent for a fighting chance.

>>57774955
And what are companies from your country doing right? Exactly.

>>57774928

No scams, you say?

Anybody remember Steorn?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

>>57774953
You should shop that on a Tu144, not a concorde

socialism = lack of innovation

>>57774985
>And what are companies from your country doing right? Exactly.

Oh, I'll gladly answer that - the Union has the same market capitalization, without having to resort to inflating its IT sector to achieve it.

By the way, it hasn't even finished the economical unification yet - we're merely still building our interstate. There's so much room for potential growth.

>>57774839
>Not phones
Every smartphone OS was invented in America.
>Not computers
Every major computer's OS was invented in America.
No major computer brand is European.

>>57774928
Is this why you're using a US made operating system?

>>57775021
>Oh, I'll gladly answer that
That's funny, because you didn't.

>>57775021
Sorry, I'm not extremely versed in the big players in the Euro tech field, would you mind giving me some names?

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>Germans are the engineers

>>57775005
This literally proves we dont pour money into them like retards.
I bet even have stocks in twitter and yahoo like a good burger goy

>>57775040
>>57775058
The question implied that we lack companies (which has a deeper implication that we lack what those companies bring - GDP). I answered by reminding you that we do have the GDP without having to rely specifically on the IT sector for 1/4th (actually even more) of our economy.

No need to thank me for answering the question a second time, you're welcome hehe :)

>>57775101
>No need to thank me for answering the question a second time, you're welcome hehe :)
I won't, because you didn't for the second time.

>this thread
>all this ESL
oy vey

>>57775037
Windows isnt made in sillygoy valley :^)

All these salty americans, cant blame them. Its hard growing up in the US, the education system isnt the best either.

Fuck everyone in this threads
except you guys posting planes, you guys are cool

People who think Germans are all engineers need to stop reading ww2 books and obsessing over nazi Germany, bunch of neckbeards who've never even been here

>no mention of Eindhoven or NXP

kys rofl

>>57775121
Except it is?

>>57775101
No, I'm not questioning your GDP. I'm genuinely curious what the big companies are now in the Euro tech field. If you don't know that's OK, but if you do, could you please tell me?

>>57775131
*thread

>>57775145
Wow look at this fucking Euro retard. Way to advertise the general ignorance of the morons who make anti American posts.

>>57774857
One of your burger friends started the thread. You never leave anyone ELSE alone. Name one country that did more damage to the world. Pro tip: you can't.

This doesn't really matter since most of these companies have offices both in the US and Europe and their money is offshore in a tax haven.

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>Germans are the engineers

>>57775037
>Linux kernel
>US
cucked again

>>57773698

Lack of capital venture funding
Nationalism
Language barriers
Also an overall cautious approach to anything new. Americans love gambling (for good reason)

>>57775145
Seattle is in California?
Everyday you learn something new

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>>57775183
Their money comes here to the Netherlands. Thank you very much.

We just needed these 3 trillion a year for ehh.. buying new furniture.

>>57774620
>Persians are cool guys.

Not if they are Muslims. Mudslimism is Pan-Arabism. If Persian, it's literally cultural cuckism. Persians should shitcan Arab superstition.

>>57775207
Or we just spend it on more hookers. >>57774952

>>57773781
What tech stuff will I buy from you?

>>57775200
>linux
You mean Unix.

>>57775173
>You never leave anyone ELSE alone
you don't let us. constantly see euros on the news whining about how we aren't helping some poor undeveloped nation.

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>Germans are the engineers

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>Germans are the engineers

>>57774542
Actually Pajeets, not Persians.

>>57773818
this

>>57774985
>versus Americans
>literally 50 countries put together

>>57775462
Can one be this retarded and breathe on his own?

>>57774444
>They didn't create the internet
>nor did they create any good modern computers
>he actually believes that

>>57775484
please tell me more how 'murica is one united country

>>57775488
>he actually believes that
It's factually correct.

>>57775517
i'm not even gonna google it for you. stay retard

>>57775515
Well in 1789 we ratified the constitution and from there it's pretty much been unity ever since. We reached 50 states in 1959 when we purchased Alaska from Russia, which I'm sure they regret.

>>57773796
Lies.

>>57775558
Facts.

>>57775579
Well, then I'm sorry you're too poor to afford quality.

>>57775541
>unity
>every state takes care of itself, has it's own laws, can "nope" at any time and can leave the union at any time
>many states hate each other and would gladly see them burn
wew...

>>57775612
>can "nope" at any time and can leave the union at any time
The only state that can do this is Texas.

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>Germans are the engineers

>>57775761
What is that piece of crap? Never seen a BMW or Porsche in your life? And even Lamborghini and Bugatti are powered by Germans as they're slaves to VW.

>>57775612
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but that doesn't surprise me because you're European.

>>57775743
Texas so far was the only one to (officialy) consider it but any state can do this because what the rest will do about it? nuke it 'murican style?

>>57775828
i clearly know more from living there for two years than you from never leaving your basement

>>57775841
Nothing, it's all voluntary. At least in theory. The real question is why leave? It won't really be beneficial. So, then that demonstrates the union is even stronger.

>>57774653
>>>/g/csg

>>57775880
Going on American websites from your moms apartment doesn't count as living here.

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>>57775798
Yeah already saw some of these, and god are they awful..

>>57775899
>It won't really be beneficial
for the rest of the US

>>57775841
>any state can do this because what the rest will do about it? nuke it 'murican style?
There is no way for any other state except Texas to legally secede.

If, on the other hand, citizens of a state decide they want to become independent, they can achieve this by having their representatives/congress vote on it and writing up a declaration of independence. This, however, would be considered rebellion and it is likely the United States would react by sending in the military to quash the rebels and retake control of the state.

>>57775933
HAHAHAHA EUROS THINK CHINA IS IN THEIR CONTINENT

>>57775934
i really hope you were the faggot i took the job from

>>57775954
Illegal if they still consider it their territory. If not, then it's an international incident.

>>57775968
I'm not in the dick sucking sector, don't worry.

>>57775954
never said it would be "legal". but they can
>This, however, would be considered rebellion and it is likely the United States would react by sending in the military to quash the rebels and retake control of the state.
why not just
>>57775841
nuke them?

>>57773818
>scandinavians and swiss are bankers
>brits are the scientists

you got that a wee bit wrong there anon
the brits are more deserving of the banker role than anyone else. financial services are our main export.

anyway, back to /g/

>>57776013
>nuke them?
Gotta be joking, right?

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>Slavs are the mathematicians

>>57773698
It's because of the laws in place is not friendly to the creation of start-ups in the EU. It's a problem and it's being worked on slowly.

>>57776047
honestly, i wouldn't be surprised

>>57776004
with your weight, you're obviously in the shit eating one

>>57776004
Ethered

>>57775983
Not the military then, but the national guard and police, who now have drones and armored vehicles.

>>57775206
Did you just seriously imply that there's no MS division in California?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/about/companyinformation/usaoffices/northerncalifornia/siliconvalley.aspx

>>57774490
Wait, why is there a reasonable, articulate person without a deranged worldview on here... Get him out of here!

>Three people can be credited as inventors of packet-switched networks, thus laying foundations for Internet: Paul Baran, Leonard Kleinrock and Donald Davies.
>Paul A. Baran was born in the town of Grodno (then in Poland, now in Belarus)
>Donald Watts Davies was born in Treorchy in the Rhondda Valley, Wells
>Kleinrock is from a poor family of Ukrainian jewish immigrants

>>57774490
>BART is disgusting and shitty.
Compared to NY transit it's practically state of the art and sterile. You're right that it's a shithole, but wrong to think NYC is not.

>>57776464
2 of those are Americans, despite how you want to spin it.

>>57776494
they're not, despite how much you deny it

America invented most of the world's modern technology. Europe has been technologically dead for nearly a hundred years now. List of American inventions:
>internet
>computers
>nukes
>spaceflight
>aircraft
>cars
>electricity
>telephones
>gravity
>lightbulbs
>golf
>football
>monster trucks
>tanks
>airplanes
>satellites
>democracy
>freedom

>>57776522
1 literally born in the US, the second held the US citizenship.

Get fucked, faggot.

>>57776568
>cars
Why do so many Americans think that?
It's completely wrong.

Also you're copying the Russian's invention of claiming everything was invented by your nation.

>>57776568
>nukes
this one definitely a thing to be proud of
also 1/10

>>57776599
>literally born in the US
I bet you tell that to every mexican/black born on the US land before you pat him on the back and cal him your bruh
>held the US citizenship
wow, that's fucking nothing

>>57776659
you do realize that not a single thing from that list is corrent, right?

Daily reminder that burger people still use imperial system instead of metric in 1800 + 217 - (1/12)

>>57776659
>Why do so many Americans think that?
Probably because one of the first patents for something resembling an automobile was filed in America in the 18th century. It's really difficult to pinpoint that sort of thing because of the era it happened it. I think it's fair to say that development of the car was concurrent on several continents. But the closest thing to the cars we've had for the last century was developed by Cadillac.
>>57776678
>I bet you tell that to every mexican/black born on the US land before you pat him on the back and cal him your bruh
If a nigga is born in America how is he not American? Even if you're a racist.

>>57776703
Literally the most unimportant and overhyped argument ever. Please tell me how using metric will matter for the average person.

>>57776731
>If a nigga is born in America how is he not American?
by not identifying himself as American

>>57776811
Ok retard.

>>57776697
Yes but hurr durr Henry Ford invented cars is something you hear often.

>>57776830
you're the retard here if you think that juse because someone was born in X, it automatically makes him a 100% X
being American means sucking in the American way of life, style, language, culture etc, not some virtual place of birth. if someone was born in America but moved to europe and spent his entire life in europe then he would be european to the bone

>>57776731
>owning patent means inventing something
Shit, this is why america is so corrupt. Medicines companies can get a patent on a natural plant.

>>57776746
The average person can precisely do units conversion without the need of calculators useful for cooking and all sort of things. Imperial is a fucking nonsense, and has no reason to exist nowadays.
I know someone who works in gardening, and he has a seeding machine from UK that measure in fucking pound per square feet.

>>57774952
I think that 7% for uk will be 0% by next year

>>57776871
>Henry Ford invented cars
bullshit. he jumped in when there were already other companies maing cars around. he just made the most efficient, automated line of production

>>57774952
>Russian circle is so big that its curve is a straight line

>>57776900
>The average person can precisely do units conversion without the need of calculators
Nigga you just memorize it, holy hell. You realize you can split or multiply the units in decimal, right?

>>57774952
>posting fake garbage with no sources because none of it is true
According to your pretend drawing, there's no russian porn (definitely false) and the virgin islands have half of the porn of the entire island of Japan (definitely false)

Stop being a fucking gullible retard.

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>>57776994
Just tell me what advantages have imperial over metric, and why imperial have any reason to exist in the 21th century

>>57774537
>posted from my apartment in Paris
>salty because you can't afford one

>>57777142
It's an important sign that America never truly gained full independence from the British.

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>>57777131

>>57773698
Because no constitution=no free thought=no technological innovation

>>57777131
You're the gullible retard if you don't understand the graphic.

>>57773698
That's an excellent question.
Agglomeration factors in European economy are a bit different and skewed, mainly because the Union is rather young and it has still fairly national internet communities - not in the sense of actual walls but due to very different regulations and languages in each state. You'd already need a lot of manpower and by that high amount of money to become relevant unionwide. Making a market entry much more probably from an established foreign company than from a new own one.

For general agglomeration like silicon valley, another factor is also important: We do not have distinguished population hotspots. In Areas where they exist, Europe has agglomerated industries, for example the metropolic region of Stuttgart is in the center of Europe, embedded within areas where there is less population, like the black forest. it makes a whole lot of people that want to make a living wander off to the region, making it more probable they will found a company there. Specialisation is then a consequence of a lot of competition - in this case, cars, development services and car accessoires. It doesn't have a fancy name though. America is different there. Huge parts of the Population live in relatively confined areas.

Last but not least Europe's political agendas that are heavily nationally scattered. Forced agglomeration is mainly regional, with a regional pool of people. There have been puny attempts to create hotspots, but they generally fail because every country wants a hotspot within its own borders.

tl;dr Europe is yet not a Union like the USA, Europe does not have industry hotspots like the USA.

>>57777142
i'm surprised they don't use vigesimal numeral system and didn't kept all imperial units such as stone for maximum hipsteriness

>>57775367
>hnnnng

>>57777199
The day USA will finally get the SI/metric system, there will be crowd of angry peoples yelling in the street for no reason

>>57774955
Microsoft's main product isn't windows, it's their cloud services

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ITT: Triggered Yuropoors.

I am an European and I find it hilarious that the Europeans in this thread struggle to accept that europe is done and is a poor shithole now.

>>57773698
Hmm...you wouldn't even need a very big nuke to take them all out.

>>57777527
no, anon. both places are shit but Europe can admit that

>>57777564
except murrica is less shitty and the europoors just have an inferiority complex lol

>>57777527
70% of modern Europe has been a poor shithole for the last 80 years. So basically not much changed.

>>57777592
Poland isn't 70% of Europe

>>57777580
>murrica is less shitty
in not a single thing

>>57777580
>murrica is less shitty
nah, it's just spread over a bigger area.

>>57776474
BART is way less robust. The MTA is an actual world class public transit system, even if it looks old and shitty — both suck relative to the London tube or Berlin's BVG.

>>57777610
Berlin has absolutely terrible public transportation

>>57777603
Hungary, Greece, Romania, Slowakia, Czechs, Poland, Bulgaria, Eastern Germany, Southern France, Spain, Italy, Portugal - did I forget some poor shitholes? Basically all of the south and most of the east. And Belgium. Fuck Belgium.

>>57777640
For German standards at least.

>>57777610
>>57777640
>>57777704
VVS in Stuttgart is pretty good :)

>>57777640
Do you live there? Its efficient and clean. Why do you say its terrible?

>>57777734
Nah, the S-Bahn is a giant piece of shit. And all the construction sites makes even the Stadtbahn system partly useless.
Also it's expensive as fuck.

>>57777606
....except living standards, people's personalities (europeans are depressed antisocial narcissists from what I've seen) living costs etc
>>57777608
whatever helps you cope with your inferiority man

>>57777640
i lived in Berlin for a bit and never ad any problems

>>57777734
Are you fucking kidding me?

I drive the S-Bahn every day to Stuttgart.
It's fucking terrible. Always late and overcrowded, and outages all the time.

Just yesterday, huge chaos for hours because "objects on the tracks"

>>57777792
>except living standards
you do realize that most or America has the same or worse standards?
>antisocial narcissists
no, that's America
>living costs etc
depends in which country

>>57777827
Might be my perspective. I live in Stuttgart, but I come from California where public transportation is very limited and very shit. I love the public transport system here. So convenient. :D

>>57777857
It actually has it better, the costs and the social programs would make the poor of murrica considered rich in yurop (how many yuropoors have 2k $ salaries? most of you get by on 500$-700$ at least in east)
>no that's america
no u!!!!111
>depends on which country
the prices are quite similar in each country because of yuro
I understand it's hard to accept your place in the world but I'm moving to murrica as soon as possible man, I deserve better than this

>>57777883
Sure, but compared to what it used to be it is an unreliable clusterfuck.
Lesson to learn: Never privatize public infrastructure. Never.

>>57777919
You do realize that the cost of living is also low in regions with low average income?

>the prices are quite similar in each country because of yuro
They absolutely aren't. Hell I could move 150 km in each direction and live from half the wage I need here.

>>57777921
But look at all the offers from the non-existent competition we can choose from now.
Thank you "free" market.

>>57777966
Oh there is competition.
they take the most profitable routes, and sell them cheap. meaning that the less profitable but still occasionally needed routes can't be payed with the profits anymore.
I can get to Frankfurt for 13 euro by bus, but getting home each day takes 30 minutes longer. Yay, free market.

>>57777919
yes but prices are 1/4 of those on west
>no u!!!!111
oh please. i've never seen a bunch of more selfish, self-centered and narcisstic people than Americans
>the prices are quite similar in each country because of yuro
now you're picking up a retard argument. not everyone uses euro
>willingly moving to 'murica
kys. we don't want you here, they don't want you there

>>57777300
>Europe is yet not a Union

Europe will never be a Union

>>57778065
A closet Nazi can dream.

humanity will never unite
we need to ascend and replace ourselves or get replaced by something better than the homo sapiens sapiens

>>57777527
>I am an European
>an European

Are you also an hero?

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>tfw whining europoors

>>57773698
Different investor mindset.
US investors spend the money for only a possibility of success.
Investors on the old continent demand that the investment will be successful and proof of its profitability.

>>57777142
It has none, but there is no benefit to switching to metric.

>>57773698
>Why don't Europoors have anything like Silicon Valley?
too many Islamists.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/top-baby-names-2016-reveals-9364002

>>57775294
Fuck off Frenchie and Take your prestige projects with you.

57773818

Wth what year do you think it is 1935?

>>57777435
What? That's a shit design. Both in execution and the concept behind it.

>internet
No. CERN created the Internet of today.
>computers
No. Germany and Great Britain
>nukes
Most of the team weren't even American lmao
>spaceflight
Russia
>aircraft
The basis but everything useful was also created by other countries
>cars
LMAO. Fist car german and all American cars are utterly garbage
>electricity
Do you even history? Look it up it's full of Europeans
>telephones
Okay I give you that
>gravity
kek, American education at work
>lightbulbs
Who cares?
>golf
>implying
>football
Who cares about that?
>monster trucks
Who cares about that?
>tanks
First tanks in WW1 without America lmao
>satellites
Russia cucked you again
>democracy
>What is Greece?
>freedom
MUH FREEDOM. Have fun dying cause you can't pay your medical bills ;^)

>>57781679
>>football
If by football you mean the shitty American version of Rugby with armor on,
then they don't even have that.

At least with rugby matches i can see honest and straightforward bashing and blood without ads and cancerous graphical effects taking up 60% of the screen all the time like in shitty US eggball.

>>57773698
Because European countries love to fuck over businesses and make it hard as hell to start one

>>57781679
Meant for >>57776568

>>57773787
This.
#1 software and tech place on earth

>>57781679
Jesus what a moron.

>>57774182
>infineon
>stmicroelectronics
>nxp
>xmos
>arm
>imagination technologies

>asml :^)

>>57773929
I'll bet you that I haven't.

If Americans think they are better than the whole world, then why don't the stop using everything created by the world?
For starters mathematics. Muslims kept safe and advanced mathematics for centuries, and Americans should stop using the Arabic numerals.

>>57773698
Stop posting thumbnails nigger

>>57782078
>nxp
now owned by qualcomm fugggg, i liked nxp too
china is pumping out so many clones its barely even economical to try and compete

>>57782171
Shhh! Trump is just crazy enough to listen to that.

>>57776568
>internet
Yeah I guess
>computers
Alan Turing
>nukes
Albert Einstien
>spaceflight
true but never would happened without rocket tech from germans
>aircraft
I'm not informed on this so cant say.
>cars
I thought they were eurocuck invention. You just produced them in mass in the 1900s
>electricity
I'm not informed on this
>telephones
I'm not informed on this
>gravity
You cant invent what already exsits
>lightbulbs
true
>golf
fag sport
>football
aussie rules is better
>monster trucks
gay
>tanks
was a british invention
>airplanes
na
>satellites
true
>democracy
Ancient greece
>freedom
what freedom

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>>57773781
Have fun with your " diversification ".

>>57775061
Oh look, a super sized F16 with extra flaps.

>>57773787
>proud of skype
wtf

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>Germans are the engineers

>>57783179
>damage control
http://airforces.fr/2009/12/20/rafale-vs-typhooneurofighter/
Stay mad coz bad americuck :')

>>57774014
What does t. stand for?

In Finnish we use t. as an abbreviation for 'terveisin', which means something like 'greetings, ' but I doubt that's where it comes from.

>>57773855
Ever heard of Linux kernel, SSH, IRC or the euro crisis?

>>57783179
>>57783240
Even the F22, which cost roughly 5 fucking. Times more than a rafale can't outfight it

I mean, how can a country spend so much on military equipment yet stay that bad?

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What the fuck did you guys tell about Germany? WE BUILD A FUCKING CANON THAT SHOT 150KM FROM THE FRENCH COAST TO FUCKING ENGLAND!

We build the first fucking ROCKETS in a time where Amerifats and Russioidiots did't even had toilets. WE BUILD THE FIRST DRONES IN FUCKING WWII! We build the first fucking jet engine and we had the first tanks with gear change. Our MG42 was the FASTEST machine gun in that time. WE WOULD FUCKING LIVE ON THE MOON TODAY IF YOU SUBHUMANS DID'NT CRUSH OUR SUPERIOR EMPIRE LET THAT SINK

>>57773855
Finland makes satellite parts used by NASA and ESA, develops 4g and 5g (also other wireless) technology, develops the mirrors and lenses used in hightech telescopes, develops green energy solutions, contributes to bio and genetic research, develops extremely good guns used by elite soldiers around the world including some units in USA (usually manufactured under license by many companies). Is birthplace of Nokia that still owns the patents to fuckton of things even Apple still uses, (Nokia phones is no more but Nokia as a company still exists). Google seems to be interested about Finland so they have opened few new data centers there and plan to invest more in future.

Just go to wikipedia or read some news for once in a while, you can find out some shit about random countries that way.

So maybe Finland has something to contribute despite only having 5 million people there.

>>57783261
That is where it comes from.

t. Someone who browses knowyourmeme

>>57774490
just buy a car, pajeet. caltrain/bart obviously suck but spending literally not even two weeks' worth of programmer salary on a used automobile will fix that

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>>57773698
Berlin's got a nice little scene coming up

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>>57777142
OH BOY!

>>57774024
>OS
I use gnu/linux.

>>57773870
Everything is made in china. Nothing is made in USA or Europe.

>>57773855
Greece may have it's problems but it still aims to be a new technology hub in near future.

They have a heavy investment in internet technologies, e-Learning, biotech and other pharma projects. Plenty of app devs on different platforms come from Greece. Their prime minister has proposed a Technology Park in Athens for Chinese (Huawei).

Greece has already established itself as an local / international hub for clinical trials. Major pharmaceutical companies seem to be investing in Greece.

Greece also seems to have some interest in drones and robotics although it's a new thing there.

Greece also has Observatory in Athens that is involved in a Mars study.... etc.

Seems like it also has something to contribute to the world.

>>57783719
>One Baidu point has been trasferred to your account

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>>57783659
>14 cm PENIS
>~5.5 inches

>>57774182
>What is NXP

Maybe you should stop talking about things you have no clue about.

>>57774383
THe chinese make everything you nigger. Even the iphones aren't made in USA.

>>57775033
Linux is made by european.

>>57774054
>>57774571
>overengineering is bad
Good goy, let the consumerism flow through you.

>>57776568
Greek invented democracy and Russsia invented satellite, and British invented car. And football (aka soccer in america) is invented by china.

>>57773698
the fact that Frys isn't just on the list, but each location is shown on top of that is kinda... weird to see, but not a shock

I work at one of the ones that's on the map, and trust me, with our shitty corporate structure, there's no real reason for us to have survived this long, hell, survived the dotcom crash even, aside from the fact that the frys brothers got into the game at the exact right time, and are now just THAT ingrained in the silicon valley psyche.

lucky bastards have built a self sustaining parasite.

Why every time someone makes this thread it gets swamped by retarded yuropoor teenagers spouting inane bullshit at the most obvious bait in the world?

The main reason Europe doesn't have Silicon Valley is because like 1/4 of the employees in Silicon Valley are Europoors themselves. It's called a braindrain and Europe lost the race.

>>57783649
hahahahah
those literally are all just shitty web based services by hipsters for hipsters.
>>57783457
If subhumans crushed the übermenschen maybe they are superior.

>>57773749
>quickly becoming irrelevant in the global economy thanks to the european union.
Yes, because every Trumptard knows that access to the market and free competition actually harms the economy, rather than help it, right?

The EU and EFTA ensures that tiny tech startups can freely access the European market instead of going bankrupt within a year.

>>57784530
>Europe lost the race.
What race? You mean the racewar?

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It's all good soon the EU will crumble and Europe might become great again.

>>57784670
No. The race for economic centre of the world.
I write this as a European myself, but look at where most supertalented people end up. All leave for America at some point. We like to make fun of streetshitters etc but what does Europe receive? Only talented eastern-Europeans move here, most migrants are low skilled retards.

Meanwhile Silicon Valley is filled with the brightest bunch of people from all over the globe. That race we lost.

>>57783799
>make
They manufacture them. Like put parts in the right place.
Meanwhile the Americans develop them.

What do you think is worth more and gives a country a real competetive edge? The 'technology' to glue a screen on a metal plate or the facilities to design computers that fit in your pocket?

>>57784854
>The 'technology' to glue a screen on a metal plate or the facilities to design computers that fit in your pocket?
Well, the technology to glue a screen on to a metal plate has lifted a quarter billion people out of poverty in China and shifted them from working class to middle class, meanwhile the American middle class is continously shrinking and employment rates among former industry workers has skyrocketed.

Why do you think Trump was voted president? He want's to make America great again, by bringing production back to the US.

>>57784896
Yes but the mere fact Trump can shift production shows how weak manufacturing is vs technological developments.

Can China just demand to start researching their own iPhones now? No, it will require trillions and a decade.
Meanwhile Trump can just change free trade laws and production will move within a few years.

That's the strength of western economies. You cannot simply copy high-tech things. Some companies like Dutch ASML have a near monopoly because competing with them is nearly impossible. Same goes for Intel, they're lightyears ahead.

>>57784940
>Can China just demand to start researching their own iPhones now? No, it will require trillions and a decade.
Well, they're currently world leading in solar energy technology, which is partly why Trump is calling the whole climate change thing a hoax because he wants to hurt Chinese economy.

They also have a very strongly blooming car industry, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw predominantly Chinese cars on European roads in 5-7 years.

>>57784896
To give you an idea, look at all the phones the Chinese make themselves. Huawei, Meizu, etc.
What advanced things do they REALLY do? Quallcomm processors from the USA, Android from the USA. I even doubt they designed the screens themselves. At best they developed their own battery which is like 80 year old technology by now.

>>57785008
>cars
Once again this isn't high-tech anymore. Combustion engine is ancient and can be copied/build by a team of highschool engineers.

>>57785017
To the economy it doesn't matter. Chinese economy is blooming, America's is going down the drain and I seriously doubt Trump's plan to supply the ever growing Chinese middleclass with consumer products made in the US is going to change anything.

The only solution is to do it like the Chinese, fuck over worker's and human rights, buy into all sorts of so-called "unethical" industries in Africa and Asia, force people to work the jobs you want them to, immediately cancel all government handouts, go full on communist-style planned economy etc.

>>57785048
>>57785017
And a strong economy attracts businesses. The tech industry in Silicon Valley didn't get big because people just happened to get together and invent clever stuff. It got big because US economy was already the strongest and people wanted in on that.

A strong middle class that moves away from being producers to consumers, will start attracting high-tech companies.

>>57785048
For what purpose? Compete with the Chinese on who makes the greatest fridge magnets?

If we keep on innovating believe me the Chinese will never catch up on us. Let them build trash for €0.50/hour, while we can go ahead and create new things for €70k/year.

FYI Trump's position on manufacturing is that he plans to automate what is already heading that path now and have Americans build the robots that manufacture the product. He's actually said this about automation and knows where things are headed.

>>57785077
>For what purpose?
To enjoy economic prosperity, and also see >>57785070

>If we keep on innovating
My point is that this is a huge if. Especially now that Trump will pretty much defund all major universities and his "lol no brown people may enter USA" will ensure that all the academic and industry conferences previously held in the US will for sure be held in Asia and in Europe now. Some companies will probably even move their offices abroad because of Trump's special tax plans on companies that employ non-americans.

>>57785165
>He's actually said this about automation and knows where things are headed.
Trump doesn't know shit about industry and automation. The guy is a glorified real-estate agent.

>>57785207
>glorified real-estate agent
Becomes a billionaire twice and won the presidency. He also did it without support from the political machines. I doubt he's some glorified idiot. You keep trying to push that huge rock up the mountain. I don't disagree with the sentiment that many who are wealthy elites in business/tech are worthy of praise or are more intelligent.

>>57785259
>Becomes a billionaire twice
He inherited money from his father, rich people are wealthy and further expand their wealth what's your point? As you said, wealth elites finds ways to remain wealthy.

He's still a glorified real-estate agent, he knows nothing about other markets or industries which is proven by his consistent chain of bankruptcies when venturing outside of real-estate.

>and won the presidency
So did a fucking nigger, that's like the lowest bar ever.

>He also did it without support from the political machines
That's not true. He had the republican party in his back, and a series of vocal supporters among republicans and within fox news.

>I doubt he's some glorified idiot
Just look at his statements, he's going to take the US into a tradewar with China and his major plan to "save" the economy is to attempting some grand shift from tertiary industry back to primary and secondary industry (because of his fixation and envy of China and their growing economy) in addition to force a tax hell on everyone wanting free access to foreign markets.

He's also planning on excessive spending on infrastructure while at the same time promising tax cuts and drastically reducing public spending, so I'm looking forward to see how he's going to pull of that magic trick.

My absolute biggest concern with Trump though, is his insistence on reviving the coal industry, that shut down because it simply isn't profitable. I'm not sure in what world subsidiaries to the coal industry and artificial taxes on clean energy is a sane move, other than keeping a bunch of uneducated peasants in the rust belt occupied so he gets another term.

>>57785335
Oh shit so Trump has been a ruse all along?

>>57785335
>He inherited money from his father, rich people are wealthy and further expand their wealth what's your point?
No they do not. You can go from millionaire to broke if you make mistakes as with any bracket.

>his consistent chain of bankruptcies when venturing outside of real-estate.
Most businesses fail within two years (80%). It's common. A few hiccups seems irrelevant.

>So did a fucking nigger
Obama had power brokers and a giant mafia (Democrat Party) behind him. Media prop machine was also propping him up. Banks picked his cabinet.

>That's not true. He had the republican party in his back, and a series of vocal supporters among republicans and within fox news.
Saying it doesn't make it true anon. Conservative/neocon papers/media/online almost all were entirely against his nomination. The RNC was not open to him until he was a shoe in and made a deal. This is evident in the lead up to convention where the party setup roadblocks on multiple occasions to prevent his surrogates from representing him. Lest we forget that despite all this the false flags/gaslighting/bird dogging/paid protestors/race riots supported by the DNC and our local/state/federal governments.

>Just look at his statements
Things have been working so well with the status quo. You really have your finger on the pulse of the nation.

>He's also planning on excessive spending on infrastructure while at the same time promising tax cuts and drastically reducing public spending
Oh you mean like previous administrations? Complaining about lower taxes I'd remind you of the laffer curve. The middle class is the bedrock of every economy. Small to medium business is part of that bedrock.

>keeping a bunch of uneducated peasants in the rust belt occupied
There we go the uneducated peasants line. We see the fascist regressive come out. Simple solution is to remove regulations, barriers, subsidies, and what roadblocks are in place to all energy sources and see who is more cost effective.

>>57784854
The largest amount of robots and other manufacturing machines is not a competitive edge? The chinese design their own smartphones, fab their own chips. Keep deluding yourself Keep thinking that they only "glue on screens to a metal plate".

>>57785675
Do you seriously believe that being backed by Republican heavyweights such as Newt Gingrich is "standing on your own", anon?

>Simple solution is to remove regulations, barriers, subsidies, and what roadblocks are in place to all energy sources and see who is more cost effective.
FYI coal industry was dead even before CO2 emissions became taxed.

>>57781679
>>57783054

>telephones
>I give you that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Meucci

>>57776568
>Internet
Tim Berners-Lee and CERN created WWW, and early internet had collaborators around the world
>Computers
Alan Turing and Charles Babbage
>Nukes
Lots of German scientists
>Spaceflight
Russia
>Aircraft
No.
>Cars
Germany
>Electricity
Tesla
>Telephones
Antonio Meucci
>Gravity
Newton
>Lightbulbs
Historians Robert Friedel and Paul Israel list 22 inventors of incandescent lamps prior to Joseph Swan and Thomas Edison.
>Golf
Scotland
>Football
Who cares
>Monster Trucks
Who cares
>Tanks
Numerous people and Britain in WW1
>Airplanes
Multiple people
>Satellites
Russia
>Democracy
Ancient Greece
>Freedom
No.

>>57774213
European are founded by Africans

Its actually African technology US uses.

WE WUZ KANGZ

>>57784543
same goes for 90% of SV shit

>>57773796
Approx 50% of all useful inventions ever used by mankind came from England, which is in yurop.

Claiming you don't own anything European is basically saying you don't own anything electronic since LEDs are used universally and guess where those came from.

>>57773698
Because Europe is a continent of dozens of sovereign countries, and the U.S. is one country, fucktard.

>>57773818
>Germans are the engineers

Yet my nodegree machinistbros make bank altering machinery the Nazis send to their tire plant where I live because design sucks + workmanship +choice of materials a shit. Metal is probably from Turkey and looks it.

Current Germany is not the Germany I defended during the Cold War and it shows.

>>57785048
>America's is going down the drain

The US is effectively many small countries AKA States, and they have many economies. California is doing fine. OTOH everyone ins West Virginia could die tomorrow and it wouldn't matter much.

>>57773749
2nd post brings out a retarded Trumple they sure do try hard to make themselves look retarded each and everyday. Fucking commendable if nothing else.