/wt/ watch thread

first for being too intelligent for diminishing returns

second for smartwatch master race

>>57726893

it's really a shame they never got around to designing a case and bezel for the royal oak.

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>>57726919
You've still not explained yourself nig nog.

>>57727189
>parnis

>>57727189

he doesn't care about technology and has no place on this board. to him, timekeeping is magic. he is probably at least 30% non-white in ancestry.

>>57727240
>>57727280
Okay, well to you follows since the anon I initially replied to has fucked off.

Please list the features that you consider "essential" when purchasing a watch. Realistically everyone's point of "diminishing returns" would be different depending on the features they want.

>>57727332
For me, I would like a sapphire crystal, mechanical/automatic watch with a robust movement that will not easily break under daily athletic shocks. I want a VERY good lume. And I want a solid end linked clasp.
What's the minimum this will cost me?

>>57727332

the watch must be a self-contained expression of the sun-seeking character and engineering ingenuity of the aryan race-soul

>>57727372
get the Obris memesplorer

>>57727403
Wow just looked at this, and it seems to fit the bill!! Thanks anon.

>>57727463
micro brands in general will be your friend for this
check out NTH and steinhart as well

>>57727372
Probably some MarineMaster or watch that uses tritium vials.

>>57727372
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>>57727403
>Implying that shit is ever in stock
You'd think they'd at least order a bigger batch when they restock considering how popular they are

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>>57727606
>>57727372
Scratch that. While marinemasters have great lume they don't use sapphire.

Grand Seiko diver then. You can get one for like 4k.

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>the moon phase complication has an already crescent moon on it
holy shit you can't make this up
they had to know, they could not be not fucking with the people who funded this, I refuse to believe this isn't a joke

>>57728564
Well, might as well if you're going for a fake moonphase. You can see the sun rays on the day side poking out.

>>57726919
>diminishing returns
jeez. not you again
just find a new thread
did a watch raep your grandpa during the holocaust or something?

>>57728564
they're just making a quick buck with a semi-scam, what do you expect?

>>57728718
that's anti-semantic, anon

>>57725194
>>57725194

why doesn't seiko make something automatic that isnt very expensive like this?

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Hello from Dubai, dear anons.
>Yes, I know that's the shittiest photograph ever, but c'mon, it's from my cellphone and against the sun.

I'm on transit to go on an exploration trip to the black continent, and I'm taking my reliable beater, the Speedmaster Pro with me.

Cheers!

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>>57729160
>the best I can push it up
>still shitty as fuck photo
Oh, well.

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>>57729196
Come visit us lawyeranon.

We haven't had a terror attack in quite a while.

>>57729252
Where are you m8?

>>57729270
The beret pin says it all really.

>>57729293
Oy vey

>>57728564

i have never owned a moonphase watch and have no idea how they are supposed to look, and i can't find a moonphase timelapse of a watch on youtube

isn't this normal behavior, i thought it's supposed to tell you when its a new moon, waxing/waning etc. why wouldn't it show a crescent moon if its waxing.

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>>57729509
A crescent can wane or wax.

A moonphase of that style should have the moon in the very center in the case of a full moon. As the moon wanes, the moon will move and slowly start to be eclipsed by the little hump at the bottom of the window. Eventually the moon will be completely eclipsed by the hump and it will be a new moon.

So this type of moonphase tells you if it's a crescent by you only being able to see a crescent of the moon.

Now the moonphase is actually a rotating disk, so right after the moon you've been watching drops behind the hump, you can expect the other moon to start poking out shortly, displaying a waxing crescent.

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>>57729613
>>57729509
so for clarity. A moonphase disk should fully rotate once every two new moons. Meanwhile the watch that was made fun of has a disk that rotates once every 24 hours. The moon in that disk is painted as a crescent and instead of a 2nd moon they paint a sun. That is a day/night or am/pm indicator, depending how it's made. They display pictures of the moon side, and create a moonphase style aperture for the complication, because it's meant more to falsely represent something it's not, rather than actually be used.

Here's another moonphase. This one is more simply a circular aperture thjat a moon passes thru over the course of a month.

>>57729613
>>57729714

alright i get it thanks

>>57694112
Where can i get the watch on the left?

>>57729970
710059 Amphibia with an aftermarket boris bezel.

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my new grail

>>57729252
>צעיר beret
Smh desu אחי

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Hey /wt/

Just got this thing, been sitting in a drawer for years after my dickhead brother wanted an Xbox for his 18th more. Is it any good? Going to go get it fitted tomorrow

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>>57728564
>>57729509
>>57729613
>>57729714
Well it's quite simply a disk that tells if it's day or night.

Something many people like, considering those disks are generally highly decorated and beautiful to watch, with deep blue backgrounds, silver clouds and golden little stars.

The one here >>57728564 is a terribly bad example, it's just a standard painted disk.

The problem with actual moonphase is that it's painful to set when the watch stops, which makes it completely retarded on a mechanical watch. And no matter how beautiful the moonphase disk is, it takes a full month to see it entirely. A day/night phase kinda emulates the feel of a moonphase, without being retarded.

>>57730585

probably worth between 100-200 dollars

and ugly as fuuuuuuu

>>57730585
Vintage digital Citizens can be quite expensive. This isn't the best looking one though.

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Took some pics of my skx007 to sell, I ordered a new one with the jubilee bracelet to see what the fuss is about. It's actually cheaper for me to sell my old skx007 and get a new watch with jubilee already on than buying the bracelet seperately.

>>57730898

the jubilee bracelet is shit, everyone ditches it for a super oyster or other band at some point

>>57730898

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEIKO-JUBILEE-BRACELET-22mm-6309-7002-7S26-7548-DIVE-WATCH-SOLID-LINKS-NR116-/351774432965?hash=item51e763dec5:g:WYkAAOSwvg9XWvZs

by the time you pay auction fees i doubt you will do it cheaper than just buying one for 25 bucks, remember ebay charges 10%

buy this, thank me later

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22mm-Super-Oyster-II-stainless-steel-Watch-Bracelet-for-Seiko-Diver-Skx007-/172421441195?hash=item28251e66ab:g:vdMAAOSwiDFYOHfa

>>57730934
I wasn't sure if the aftermarket cheapies were gonna be any good.

>>57730915
I know but lookin at the prices of the super oysters, it is a bit much.

>>57730947
I live down under so they dont ship to here. Other alternatives arent cheap.


Genuine jubilees seem to be going for 55 usd what a rip

>>57730978

just wait around on ebay, people are always selling them in slightly used condition because they are loose and rattly and shit so you can normally pick up a slightly used one cheap

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>>57731000
too late hehe, put an ad up and then bought the jubilee version.

They are running a 10% off promotion Ebay Australia so I thought this was one of the few chances to get a new skx007 for as little money as possible.

>>57729160
>>57729196
>>57729252
Get da fuck outta Hong Kong

>>57730534
Spare famalam.

It's about time for a new picture.

>>57731040
How long did you have the Seagull and how do you find its reliability?

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My n00bz collection

1/3

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2/3

>>57728564
It's hilarious how bad of a scam these guys are running.

>pay now
>don't worry you'll choose your model later

You have no idea what you're getting and they don't tell you that their watches are quartz movements unless you pay extra later. But I guess this is actually keeping in line with the original kikestarter spirit.

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aaaand 3/3

>>57731040
only a few months. I am sure it is a reliable enough movement so I don't think you should be too concerned. I am pretty sure the popular Rodina watch uses the same movement so perhaps a Rodina owner could chime in.

Also the Sea-gull brand has been around for a long while now. Anyways it costs nothing so go get one

>>57731686
Wait, they are all quartz? Haha holy shit how much a jew this can get

>>57728564
Looks like a day-night indicator, which is basically a disc on the pivot normally for a 24-hour hand. Basically a chinkshit-tier imitation of a moonphase using an off-the-shelf quartz movement.

>Needs a watch

>$100 to $200 limit.
>Wants a mechanical watch, with sweet glow in the dark action
>Won't beat the watch to shit, no navy seal action here; but won't beat the watch to shit
>Waterproof to six feet or so. Anything more than that, and I get what I deserve.

>>57732185

One more thing

>Don't faggot on me, 4chan.
>None of that "Well if you could bump your price range up XY amount..."

I need a watch /wt/

>automatic chronograph
>200m WR
>tachymeter
>Super-luminova
>domed sapphire
>solid-link bracelet
>$100 to $200 limit

>>57732185
Orient Makos/Rays tend to go for about $150 on eBay. Have a gander.

>>57732185
skx007, pics above from another poster

Waterproof, solid, beater tier, mad lume COOL! What else ya want boy?

>>57732273
You meant quartz?

>>57732283
just make sure to pick up the new version with hacking and handwinding

>>57732657
shit, have forgotten about that autist

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>>57732688
amateur autist

>>57732783

>>57732657 here, u're my new hero

>>57732358
WHOOOOOSH

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>>57729160
Lawfag, pls do me a favor and ask how the job market is for pharmacists is over there
Thanks
Also if you could ask how an American (that speaks arabic) can apply to jobs that would be great as well.
Don't ignore pls

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Heads up, the non PADI pepsi turtle is on amazon for 330. Pick it up before they're all sold out
Also, the Deep Blue sale ends today. Last call for the most memed watch last thread
>AR coated Sapphire
>4R36 movement
>Superluminova
>Sunburst dial
>SKX look with multiple color options including a Doxa-like orange
All for $150

Also cheapestnatostraps has a 30% off sale, so if you get 5 straps it's 20%+30%

>>57731686
I don't think they're quartz, friend.
They have self-winding watches, they advertise.

>>57732401
hacking is a useless feature

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>>57733394

>>57733361
They are already at 250 to 280₪ on eBay.

Plus you're mostly wrong, as do the Amazon descriptions.

The crystal is Hardlex, there isn't an orange turtle (yet™), and with the exception of the Padi turtle the dials don't have a sunburst effect.

>>57730670
>The problem with actual moonphase is that it's painful to set when the watch stops

No it is not.

>>57733394
the new model also got rid of the stupid pusher at 2 o'clock, updated the bezel to 120 clicks and improved the lume, so it is still a superior version

>>57733407
Oh cock, i misread the post.

Anyhow, the turtles are cheaper than thst by now.

>>57732657

He's not fat.

>>57733436
nice try fatty boy, you're as fat as an Invicta

>>57729160

no respectable human being has any business being in dubai

>>57733407
Oh shit you're right
I haven't checked ebay for a while, glad the prices finally dropped on this thing.
~260 is a steal for the srp777. It's a worse watch than something like the Deep Blue or a Helson but that turtle AESTHETIC makes it all worth it.
>tfw will never own a doxa cushion case

>>57733398
Yep.

>>57729252
>23 jews

IDF

>>57733603
It's as useless a feature as any other watch than f91 is

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>>57733621
>>57730534
>>57731421
Well :^)

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>>57733686
But the F-91W "hacks" too, stupid.

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>that feel when your gf hardly wears the mechanical Seiko you bought her last year for Christmas
>that feel when she's now making noises about wanting a FitBit
>that feel knowing the Seiko is going to sit in a drawer somewhere for 20 years and it won't even be worth cleaning out all the gunked up oil at the end of it because the 7S26 is worthless even when new

>>57733417
So you never had to set one I suppose.

29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes and 2.8 seconds: that is the exact length of lunation, something NO MOON PHASE WATCH actually respects, for very obvious reasons, they just round it to 29 or 30 days, so you're off by one full day every two months. And how do you set it? Well you estimate the thing, or you put it on full moon, and then you count the number of clicks to the current state, if your watch sets it in little clicks. And obviously, a mechanical watch is likely to stop running some time over the course of a month, so you have to do this a lot.

If people wear a watch, it's to know the time, and they expect that watch to tell the time, without them having to tell the watch what time it is. That's the issue with a moonphase: you spend more time setting than checking it, so what use is it when you know it more accurately than your watch?

Day/night phases are set along with the hour hand, and they don't pretend to tell you something you don't know.

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>>57734031
Get her something she wants not something YOU wanted.

>>57734038
Do you enjoy making shit up?

>>57734082
You tell me, I'm having trouble reading your counterarguments right now.

>>57734031
can I have the free 7s26 movement dude? I need a new one soon.

>>57734031
>because the 7S26 is worthless even when new

It's a good movement, why would you say that?

>>57734031
I know that feel all too well. I thought she might like a Seiko 5, she never wears it and I wish I'd got her an Eco-Drive or something.

>>57734082
Well he's mostly right: most watches round it, and very, very few very high end watches are accurate, with like a couple seconds of error every year.

But then, what's the point? Indeed it's likely to stop in the meantime, plus it's a mechanical watch, whose accuracy may fluctuate. And setting it precisely is still impossible, you're rounding it regardless. So really it's great that it's so accurate, because you'll never be able to set it accurately anyway.

Which is why the cheapest inaccurate moon phase watches are simply less retarded, because past that, it's just overengineering at its finest, and the apex of watchfaggotry. We have quartz today, if you want a moon phase, that's what you should get. If you want a nice looking rotating disk, a decorated AM/PM indicator will do the trick.

Moon phase is just pointless and even some of the most deluded watchfags admit it.

>>57733423
>stupid pusher
i'll fight you at basel

Watch noob here, is a fully mechanical watch the only way to get smooth second hand movement? Are there any quartz or affordable watches with smooth second hands?

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>>57734108
>>57734038
Read what I said about a moonphase here.

>>57729613
>>57729714
>something NO MOON PHASE WATCH actually respects, for very obvious reasons
A moonphase disk is not one moon, it's two. You wouldn't need to "round it to 29 or 30" because it's two moons. The cheap and basic moonphases use 59 teeth for one rotation. You're not off by one day every 2 months, you're off by a day after closer to 30 months.

If you service your watch every 5 years, then you only need to set it once, around half way between services, or twice if it's not still wound when you get it back from service

But we've even talked about moonphase accuracy here before. Some moonphases would be off by a day only after thousands of years of operations. In fact, some watches get much more accurate moonphases. tens of thousands, all the way up to millions of years before it's off by an entire day. We've gotten such accurate moonphases that, if we were to operate them for that long, they would get less accurate over time due to the changing orbital period of the moon (over 30 seconds per period) that would cause concern before they're even off by a whole day.

All you did was assume that's how a moonphase was made, and then spouted it off, ignoring that the rotation of a moonphase disk covers two months, not one. You even go on to say "for very obvious reasons" but it's very obviously wrong.

Meanwhile, anyone who finds a moonphase, including a basic one, within their price range is also going to find a winder in their price range. So if they do have a large collection and can't keep their watch wound on their own, it's essentially a non-issue.

>>57734314
These are literally the same, idiotic, arguments. How can this not be samefag?

>>57734329
bulova accutron are "high beat" quartz watches that are smoother.
cheap mechanical watches exist: vostok komandirskie and amphibia, the entire seiko 5 collection... there are mechanical watches at every price point above $50 (below that they usually aren't worth getting because they'll be chinese crap that falls apart).

>>57734368
you underestimate the amount of stupid people on the internet

>>57734329
oh, and all of those are of course not exactly smooth: they just move the second hand more than once per second. mechanical watches move it 3 to 6 times per second usually. Accutrons (the new ones) move it 60 times per second if I'm not mistaken, so almost perfectly smooth to the eye.
The only perfectly smooth second hand is obtained with Seiko's Spring Drive movement, which is a mechanical/quartz hybrid, but those aren't cheap at all. It's nice to see in videos, though.

>>57734413
6-8 is going to be the most typical bps for cheaper mechanicals. You may have been thinking of vps. One vibration of the balance wheel produces two beats of the hands.

>>57734442
yes, thank you

>>57734413
The modern accutrons are 16 beats per second, 8 on the newer chrono movements.

>>57734719
that's it? well looks like i was wrong on all accounts, what a terrible post

>>57734332
Oh well, enjoy your perfect moon phase accuracy on your perfectly accurate mechanical watches I guess. Your entire argument basically equals "REEEEEEEEEE ALL MECHANICALS ARE PERFECTLY ACCURATE BECAUSE ROLEXES ARE!!".

You should check watches below the 10,000€ pricepoint, because
>A moonphase disk is not one moon
is certainly not accurate. They don't all emulate the moon through a circular hole, some are just indicators with as much as 8 little moons in different states.

Also
>>57734390
>defending a tripfag
How is this not samefaggotry?

>>57734982
The two moon disk is based on the normal aperture, not the circular aperture.
>>57729613 pic related.

They can be very expensive but even the cheapest moonphases use that design. Like the sub-1,000 USD seagull.

>>57734372
>>57734413
>>57734442
>>57734507
>>57734719
>>57734959
Thanks anons.

>tfw meme blue still didn't ship
I'M BASICALLY ACROSS THE STREET WHAT THE FUCK

>>57734031

Got my girl a solar powered one and she wears it every day. Probably because I consulted with her on what she likes and came up with different watches. She looked at the Seiko 5 and said it looked like an old man's watch.

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Just found this watch, with loud as fuck mechanical movement. It seems it's from the 60's from a once big an reputable French watch manufacturer.

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>>57735435
Surprisingly the original croco leather band is in a mint condition.

>>57735242
I'm picking mine up from the post office after work, if I'd been home I would have had it friday.

>>57735435
>Incabloc
>60s

Can't be that old.

Also Lip still exists.

>>57735521
Incabloc was invented in 1934 and it became widespread in the 60's. Also that watch really seems to have a late 50's, early 60's style.

>>57735521
>Also Lip still exists.
Only the brand, they sell chink watches with jap moviments.

>>57735242

Told you. It's going to multiple different states boy.

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>>57735435
lip had some cool designs
i'm french but i'm undecided on if i want one

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>>57736063
Ripoff or original Giugiaro design?

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>>57736386
It's 10 years older than the Giugiaro seiko.
It's by a French designer, same guy that designed the TGV.

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>>57736724

He invented the real hero.

>>57733511
>no respectable human being

He's a lawyer

>>57731670
>n00bz
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

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I bought this strap for my 18mm watch, but it's like, 19mm. Too big for 18, too small for 20.

Do you guys think I can jam a 22mm NATO strap in a 20mm Timex weekender?

>>57739053

no

>>57739053

Let me show you what it looks like after I finish my shit.

>>57737377
That's nice, retard.

>>57739053
No, get a new watch.

>>57739152

What's it like to feel the warming sensation of cum in your throat?

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>>57739053

It looks okay.

>>57739411

no, it does not.

>>57738989
looks like 2mm too small for those lugs

>>57739620

Doesn't fit 18mm watch.

>>57739182
Lol get rekt pinoy.

>>57733389
Read the comments and comments from their first kikerun. None of the reward levels specify the watch you will be getting and there is a massive difference in manufacturing cost between quartz and mechanical movement at the price point they are offering. The only way they can economically get away with it is by making the watches quartz and then asking people to pay extra for mechanical later on.... like they did in their first campaign.

Plain scammers.

is there a rolex similar to to the day date but mechanical?

any sales on nato bands today lads?

>>57740733
The Rolex Day Date is mechanical.

>>57740742

Cheapestnatostraps.com.
20% off if you buy 5 or more, 30% off on top of that with code black.

>>57735824
But the tracking said the label was created in brooklyn.
>>57735483
Lucky. Review it pls

>>57740896
>buy 5

jesus, i don't know which colors to get. That's a lot of bands 2bh

>>57741405
Well thanks to the US Postal Service's stunning service I couldn't pick it up today. I paused my mail while I was out of town over the Thanksgiving weekend, so when my tracking said on Friday "notice left" I assumed I'd have that stupid slip and pick it up. But today they tried delivery instead for no fucking reason without updating my tracking at all so my watch was on the truck still when I tried to pick it up with my slip that was not from Friday at all.

>>57741633
Can't you wait it out?
The truck should come in a bit before the post office closes right?

>>57741671
Nah, I'll have to get it tomorrow.

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>>57741698
At least yours actually shipped

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I don't really know anything about watches. Is this a good one? How much would you pay for it? I got it on sale.

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>>57741880

>>57741880
dogshit

>>57741880

never ask g for their opinions

>>57741897
>>57741902
>>57741920
Wtf is this supposed to mean

>>57742010
You have to go back

>>57742010
g is a bunch of elitist pricks who circlejerk over everything
Personally, i have been affected by the g circlejerk plague and I can answer you with good faith.
It is not a good one. I would never wear it. No matter how little you paid it does not negate that piece of shit watch.

>>57741880
>Is it good
No.

Movement is not too bad though, depends on if it passed QC or if it's a reject movement, chinese are known to do that shit sometimes. I made a watch with a similar skeleton movement and have it regulated pretty good.

>How much would you pay for it?

Objectively the materials in that watch are worth around $35 USD I'd estimate; depends on how many middlemen from the chinese factory, maybe even less. I would pay no more than $75 and a normie paying marketing and bullshit markup shouldn't pay more than $100.

It's still throwing your money away since better watches can be had for slightly more monies.

>>57742010
$3 Chinese movement in a $2 case, sold for many times its value.

If you like it that's all that counts, but >>57741920 is right, /wt/ is just going to hate it for the POS it is.

>>57742153
It's sturling dude they are Swiss I believe

>>57741880

Sturhling is a Chinese brand that makes over priced watches of questionable quality.

/wt/ dislikes them. But if you like it, keep it.

>>57742205
Well that's where you'd be wrong. That movement is a signature chinese skeleton movement.

I can't figure out exactly what it is, but it appears to be some variant of a TY2807 or similar.

These chinese movements are very modular, they are designed to have additional plates screwed on top to provide extra functions like day night indicator etc.

>>57736386
>Giugiaro design
This guy is a one trick pony. Literally everything he designed draws from the same exact elements.
Same with Genta.
The Nautilus, Royal Oak and whatever other watches he designed look exactly the fucking same.

>>57742392
It's called the tongji movement. It used to be similar to vostoks workhorses but the cheap materials they use combined with the complete lack of QC made them into absolute garbage after the quartz crisis.

>>57742153
>watch are worth around $35 USD
Try less than a dollar
The economy of scale on the case and movement is pretty astounding considering how much of these they make.
All the brand has to do is provide a name to stamp on the dial.

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Does there exist an uglier watch than this?

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Do you guys think it would be safe to punch a hole between the two holes on the left? Its currently either too loose or too tight.

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Are there any Seiko divers with similar design to the skx007, but has hacking?

>>57742588
I actually really like that iteration of the superocean and think they should have kept it. Now they just look like every other generic diver out there.

>>57742531
No, what you are thinking of is the garbage they sell on deal extreme which is all put together from reject parts, soft base metal cases and folded sheet metal bracelets. Basically they are trying to recover their scrap.

There is a minimum cost for making these things which are unavoidable because of how many processes are required, how much time and labor is involved. Almost all the parts of the movement are rhodium plated which is an expensive process in itself.

I can get good versions of those chinese movements locally for about $30-35 canadian. If the distributor is selling them for that, he is probably importing them for around $20-25 all in. Leather bands are about $5, set of hands are $5. Mineral glass is around $3-4, the dial would probably be around $6-7. Little shit adds up; like I said probably $35 USD max.

Shouldn't jewelry threads go on /fa/

>>57742950
Go for it. And if you fuck up you can just order another pair of 'genuine leather' straps off the internet.

http://www.ofrei.com/page1601.html

Note: $10 is way too much for chinese made straps, no more than $5.

>>57741880

I just ordered the same watch, only all gold. Hoping it doesn't wear off too quickly lol. I just really like the skeleton mechanical watches, but I feel as if there aren't that many options. I also don't know where to look though.

/g/,

Where do I buy a nice watch for not that much cash. I just picked up a shitty Stuhrling from amazon because I thought the design was awesome. It's a skeleton mechanical watch. I'm looking for something of the same style, but of a quality make.

>>57742979
You in fucking luck pal
Deep Blue nato diver
Literally the SKX with sapphire and hacking, better lume too.
Use CYBER at checkout to get it for $150
You have like 4 hours, thats assuming the sale is still going and didn't end already.

>>57743121
You buying them individually is not the same as a huge chink factory with massive economy of scale and almost no labor costs.
How do you get a "good" version of a tongji?
I have a well lubed one and the fucking thing stills gains 2 minutes a day, and thats if I keep it wound. If I wear it on and off it's more like 4 minutes.

>>57743294
thanks man, wouldn't have known otherwise.

>>57742979
The turtle in black comes fairly close if you want seiko. Different case, but the dial and bezel are basically the same style. Hacking and handwinding movemet too. If you dont actually plan on diving there are probably vintage/franken options.

>>57743442
Is the Deep Blue similar in size or bigger than the skx?

>>57743338
Ones that pass QC.

Reject movements gets assembled into $10 deal extreme watches. Working ones get dipped into a bath of oil (explaining the shit performance) and then put into consumer watches.

The raw movements come without oil or regulation. I didn't bother taking it apart and oiling it, but I did use a microphone and free timegraphing software (biburo) to regulate it. I lose or gain a minute every now and then which is acceptable since I usually let it wind down more frequently than that.

>>57743294
we have officially entered the shilling age of beep blue. It's getting mentioned over and over, and is even having promo codes posted for it.

>>57734413
I can confirm that the Accutron II's are 16 beats/second.

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Moving away from chink shit to some high quality chink shit. I'm trying to decide between an orient mako or seagull ocean star. The seagull is much more expensive, but it looks like it's on a different level to the mako which is a shiny blue while the seagull is matte.

Can't decide if it's worth paying over $400 usd for it though.

Any other watches that look like this?

>>57743459

it's bigger. 44m for the deep blue vs 42mm for the skx.

>>57743613
>>57743459
Lug to lug is
Deep Blue 51
SKX 46
Which imo makes a huge difference

>>57743643

yes. the size difference is what removed it from my cart just now.

let me say again, i literally want an skx007 with a 4R36 movement. not something with a fucking 51 goddamn millimeter lug width.

>>57743694
If you need the skx case a number of sites sell skx watches with other movements or other mods like sapphire crystal

>>57743278

Orient Esteem has an open heart.

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>>57743643
>>57743694
My MDV106 is like 50mm lug to lug and it fits my (very round) 7' wrist just fine.
>>57743478
Not shilling I swear
I saw the code from an anon here and I'm helping my fellow poorfags get in on a really fucking good deal.
No sane person can claim that a diver with a nice bezel, AR coated sapphire crystal and a nice movement for 150 cuckbucks is a bad deal.
It's a pretty good watch for its original price but with the sale it's a steal.
>>57743694
Dog, it's a diver. See my pic, 51 is not big for a watch with such a small dial diameter.
This is THE deal in watches right now.

>>57743694
artificehoroworks still makes modified SKX I believe.

>>57743779

hmm, i guess my last post left a very tiny gap of daylight for you to try to shit through with inducements to pick a watch i don't want. we are done with that now.

>>57743806
>artificehoroworks

perfect thanks

>>57743807
Well shit, I'm sorry you're a fucking manlet with no spacial understanding

I've heard it's not good for a mechanical watch to be idle for more than a month. Is there any truth to this?

>>57743988
Well if this is true, all my watches are garbage now lol

>>57743988
Somewhat.
It's true if you leave a watch for years the oils with eventually harden
A month is fine though, even a few years if we're talking about a 7s26 or the miyota equivalent.
The only reason to buy a winder is if you have some kinda grand complication watch that is annoying as fuck to set if you let it wind down.

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Is the Promaster NY0040 discontinued?
Ebay prices seem to be rising and I can only find it at ~$200 at shady Singaporean sites
Does anyone even have this watch? The SKX is the established meme but I think the NY0040 gives it a real run for its money

Also here's a pic comparing a 46mm lug to lug with a 50mm

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>>57744309
I used to think the SKX was much better looking but the promaster has really grown on me

>>57744394
That 8 o'clock crown though...

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>>57744517
It's unique
How often do you change the time on your wrist anyway?
It's a different way to get rid of the problem of having the large crown digging into your wrist.
Seiko went with the 4 o'clock and citizen just said fuck it and moved the thing all the way over.

Fuck, i dont even know if i should get the 007 or 009, they both look great

>>57744548
Personally I've never had a problem with crowns digging into my wrist. The 4 o'clock placement to me is fine, it's almost more natural to use than 3 anyway. Shifting it over to 8 is just annoying. I'm sure left-handed people are OK with it though.

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>>57744309
>comparing to a 48 lug-lug instead of a 51 lug-lug

>>57744674
The casio is the biggest watch I own (unless you want to bring G-shocks into this)
It's more like 49.5
Not THAT big of a difference between it and the deep blue
My point is that 51mm isn't big for a diver. If you have sub 7' in wrists just suck it up and wear it on a nato to hide the overhang.
The curved lugs would also help with this.
I hate when the dinner plate meme is applied to divers on /wt/
45mm wide "minimal" watches like MVMT are nasty dinner plates.
A 44mm diver isn't; there's a difference.

>>57744736

MVMT is just tasteless trash

>>57743078
Bro are you blind

>>57743186

/fa/ watch threads are okay, but are mostly just an endless parade of faggoty "minimalist" waste with somali-tier quartz trash inside

>>57744622
Left handed person here, why would I want the crown on my wrist side? That shit is annoying as fuck and totally useless.

>>57744109
Or if you wear a different watch every day of the week and don't want to adjust it every time.

How's this for a first watch?

https://www.amazon.ca/Orient-FER27003W0-Symphony-Japanese-Automatic/dp/B00I364FDQ/ref=sr_1_16?s=watch&ie=UTF8&qid=1480390994&sr=1-16

>>57745479
Imo amazon/orient does not properly portray the color of rose gold in their photos, but I think the watch itself is a fine choice.

>>57745603
There's an image of the black version of that watch in the reviews

https://www.amazon.ca/Orient-ER27002B-Classic-Automatic-Watch/dp/B00A88XOZM/ref=sr_1_26?s=watch&ie=UTF8&qid=1480390994&sr=1-26

The gold looks pretty decent from the image the person posted

How normal is it for the snk809's rotor to rattle?

>>57729252
>>57729293
When I saw you post I didn't actually opened the image. I thought you were in Dubai also and, since I have a transit visa, maybe we could grab dinner or something, amd get to know another anon.

Anyway, thanks for the invitation m8. I'll gladly try to fullfill it some other time.

>>57733198
I'm sorry m8. I didn't saw your post with enough time. However, I will ask around when I come back in three weeks.

>>57733511
>>57737325
Eat dick faggots.

>>57742439
The Nautilus looks like shit, the RO actually looks good.

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>>57746570
Advocat anon, what do you know about patek waiting list structure?

Say i were to buy something ridiculously expensive like a celestial or something, will they let me buy a world timer after?
I mean I would love to wear a patek celestial While waiting, and then just sell both. the world timer with mad profits and the celestial with having been able to enjoy it for a while.

>daily beater is getting really fucked, almost can't change the crown setting now
>can't afford the replacement i want for it
feels bad man

So what is the verdict on squale? Pure class? Or yet another aggregator of 3rd party parts?

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>>57745648
It can be somewhat difficult to capture on camera depending on the lighting, but this is what I mean (on a bambino, not symphony). It tends to look a lot closer to yellow gold in at least their advertising photos. Still a great watch regardless, just dont expect that shade.

>>57748201
The second

Squale is shit, and so TGV

>>57733407

fuck $250 i'm going to end up buying one around christmas

>>57747445
If you don't have a previous good relation with an AD, it will be quite difficult or next to impossible for you to buy a Celestial, or other high-collectible models, outside of the grey market. If you do have a relationship with an AD/PP you might be able to pull if off, but you must be a really BIG buyer for the AD to risk it.

For example, if I wanted to, I could buy the ceramic Daytona or the new American World Timer from PP right now, jumping the waiting list, but that's because my jewellers knows me greatly and they are sure none of my purchases will pop out a week later in the grey market. If they do, my ADs could even lost their distribution deal with the brand.

It DOES happen anyway, so you might try and go for it. What high-end pieces do you own anon?

>>57748320
SQUALLLLE

>>57748404
Probably the same.

Going to list the Komandirskie GMT up on eBay most likely, or trade it for a Turtle.

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>>57748424
i dont own any, i am genta calendar anon, i was just shitposting about ways to jew the sterns desu. i do know the local patek dealer pretty well though so who knows.
that zenith is of a friend of mine btw.

I think i'm going to add a seiko skx009 to my collection at the end of the year.

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>tfw my franken Amphibirskie from the Ukraine and my canvas strap from the USA have arrive in the same morning

R8 pls

>>57748994
The total convo was just 56€ btw

>>57748586
dang those 3 omegas are really cool
the chronostop is really quirky and interesting, and looks good, very sporty, especially the chrono hand and the scale at the edge of the dial
the one in the middle has a superb case, and the dial and hands are great too. too bad about the condition of the dial, but i'm guessing it's quite an old watch.
and the integrated bracelet seamaster is just plain nice, especially with that sunburst dial. just the hands aren't quite up to par imo, i'd have loved dauphine hands there.

if those are yours, congratulations anon, that's a great collection.

>>57748994
disregarding the franken status, that's a good look. the crown doesn't look great, it's too bad there isn't much aftermarket for them, if any. they're almost as easy to change as the bezel after all.

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>>57749104
The franken status doesn't really bother me that much since it looks quite nice and still has original Soviet parts like the case, movement and this cool case back with the Soviet quality logo.
I've built a few franken Komandirskies from spare parts myself as a hobby and resold them on eBay, so I'm not really autistic about 100% auntenticity anymore.
The crown is the regular one of an Amphibia and it suits the design of the case. It's not the most beautiful crown but I could always get a stainless steel replacement from meranom anytime.

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>>57749104
they are mine and thank you senpai. the hands on the seamaster are indeed a prob, (sec. hand is missing too kek) im looking for a replacement atm.

>>57745479
You can't go wrong with Orient.

Nice one.

>>57746500
It's normal.

>>57748994
Is it supposed to look like a fifty fathoms?

Very nice anyway.

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>>57749623
No, the dial is inspired by this old Soviet Vostok Komandirskie from the 60s I believe. Meranom sold a reissue which has a dial that looks pretty much like mine.

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>>57749667
So I asked the autist from WUS if the dial could be from meranom but it's apparently a "modern fake" done by an Ukrainian watchmaker. But it's quite nice since the indices and hands are well lumed.

Sarb033 or sarb065 cucktail time???

People say that pictures don't do justice to the cuckail time. If there is an owner here, I'd gladly hear his opinion.

>>57749729
Pictures do less justice to the 033.

It's the better watch as it a watch more fit for everyday wear, unlike the cock which is strictly a dress watch you'll likely not to wear often.

>>57729252
Different anon here. Any native watchmaking companies there in the land of the mysterious eternal afternoon time anomaly?

Too bad so many interesting countries in the world are in troubled regions.
>We haven't had a terror attack in quite a while.
Indeed.

>>57749761
Is it the same for the 035?

I might pick it instead of the 033

>>57749858
The only sort of white is kind of ugly in my opinion

>>57749842
Besides Adi?

Nothing else that i can recall.

But the Palestinians usually chimp out every few months or so.

>>57749858
035 is a weird cream instead of white, while the 033 is deep black.

Guys I changed the date between 9 pm and 3am on a miyota automatic movement. How fucked am I?

>>57748586
The far right watch looks like an early 80s Seiko 5.

>>57750049
It doesn't break any movement, it can just slightly damage some parts, but nothing too problematic as long as you don't do it every month.

Just don't do it again.

>>57750178
Should I get it serviced?

>>57750201
na ive done it by accident prob a few times. Just always set your shit to a safe time like 6:00 and then do your date bullshit.

Dont stress matey

>>57750341
I don't know if it's just me but not noticing before but changing the time the feel of the crown isn't smooth as my etas and the minutes hand will jump in a clunky fashion instead of a smooth sweep. The movement is a Miyota 8217 so I'm not sure if that's an inherent flaw to the movement. It doesn't affect time keeping but it does concern me after what I did today.

>>57728564
>>57729714
>>57729613

so to be clear it's the shape of the aperture designed to masquerade as a moonphase which makes this a shitty "complication" right, not the actual day/night indicator?

if i wanted a day/night indicator to indicate am/pm or for the reasons listed here: >>57730670
would it be fine? or is day/night in general a pleb tier complication that i should avoid

>>57746570

fuck you, you arab-fellating traitor.

>>57748994
Did you not care that the bezel is fake as fuck

>>57750803
Not him, but who cares? I personaly think it looks better than stock bezels.

>>57750803
I know perfectly, but I had the real deal on one of my vostoks and it feels literally the same. Only difference is the 30 that is upside down. This bezel was made by Ukrainians while the real one from Chistopol was done by Ruskies. Slavs gonna slav anyway.

>>57751186
>30 that is upside down
Lmao i didn't notice that
Why the fuck would you do that

>>57751220
Because the bezel is gonna stay in the same position most of the time (30 next to 6h index), so that way it's readable at first glance.
I know it sounds stupid but it kinda makes sense to me.

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>when its been a couple months since purchasing and you've worn your F91W to the point that the hole in the band you use has finally stretched the strap out enough that it no longer constricts your blood flow or leaves a mark, and yet stays snug

>>57751136
CRS? Heard the reason they're widely used is partly because there's some pocket on those uniforms where Douk Douks fit perfectly.

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>wearing several f91w's on a single nato strap for maximal precision and so you can detach one of them to use as detonator when you suddenly have to plant a bomb

Black face or white face watch?

>>57751695
Wgat do you mean by CRS?

https://www.citywatches.ca/product/seiko-automatic-23-jewels-japan-made-srp770-srp770j1-srp770j-mens-watch/

Thoughts on this watch?

>>57752203
So I guess you didn't take this picture.

>>57753201
too big

>>57753201

You're not getting ripped off, but personally I wouldn't wear it.

>>57753294
>>57753387
How about this watch?

http://www.creationwatches.com/products/orient-automatic-288/orient-multi-eyes-automatic-fet0r003w-4656.html

>>57751136
>tfw bought a knife off aliexpress
>can finally take autistic watch + knife pics

>>57751622
Casio straps are comfy as fuck when they're broken in

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>>57734332
>A moonphase disk is not one moon, it's two.
Exceptions: pic related. This is an open disk, but placing this under an aperture most people other than complete autists would not notice anything strange.

The problem with the type you describe which also is the most common one from what I can see, is that the aperture makes many of the depicted phases plain wrong, specifically waxing gibbous, first quarter, third quarter and waning gibbous.

>>57749912
>Besides Adi?
Had a look
>"Mossad fashion"
!?? What does that even mean? They paid a dude a visit around here a few years ago and let's just say it was not conducive to his health. Something about lead allergy.

>>57751802
Casual or dress use?

>>57751786
Say hi to the FBI for me.

>>57754342
Yeah. The normal aperture creates a sort crescent shape rather than a real gibbous.

It would be cool to see a moonphase that accurately depicts the moonphase, even the accurate axial tilt, but that would be one expensive project that only a few manufacturers could only really tackle.

>>57754651
Who knows if it was us :^)

>>57727189
Parnis' are fantastic watches. They have the finishing and quality of a $2-300 Seiko, Citizen or Orient, sometimes better than watches like Tissot or Hamilton at times.
They come with Sea-Gull automatic movements (most of them) and have cool features for a cheap price of $50-90. This has a power reserve, is generally pretty accurate, very reliable for a Chinese watch, genuine leather, deployant clasp. The divers are good too, for $75usd you can get a Parnis diver with a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, seagull movement, glidelock clasp, solid links and end links. Great value, and overall a great watch. Anyone that would praise a Seiko 5 or Citizen and bash a Parnis like this, I have no respect for. Unless you are an idiot and buy one from a sketchy dealer on eBay, I have generally not heard of any problems, and only hear about people loving them over their other watches.

>>57754938
Mostly casual use

>>57755331
You have no idea what Parnis even is.

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>>57755262
Well, there was just the minor matter of arrests, incriminating documents and convictions.

>>57755072
>It would be cool to see a moonphase that accurately depicts the moonphase,
There is one solution with a rotating sphere, half siver and half dark. It indicates moon phase well but getting the selenological features right would probably not be possible.

>even the accurate axial tilt, but that would be one expensive project that only a few manufacturers could only really tackle.
Probably true. The tilt is the sum of two aspects: the projection of the Earths axial tilt (about 23.5 degrees) and that of the Moon (about 3 degrees). That would mean you would have to know both longitude and latitude of the observer. For an astronaut on the Moon the libration would be reflected in the position of the Earth above the lunar horizon.

We are approaching the 50 year anniversary of the first Moon landing. Time for Omega to get cracking on a good design, no warmed over stuff this time please.

>>57753215
I did.

>>57753215
Aah ok. I'm a frog and if so are you: no I'm not a CRS.

I'm here to give out some (You)'s

>>57728564
if that were black instead of blue that would be a great looking watch desu

>>57730439
too brown for me but I'm happy for you

>>57731040
I like the 3rd one

>>57731670
eh

>>57731682
alright

>>57731695
the /g/ memes got to you
it's still a decent looking watch though

>>57733361
>>57733198
>>57748994
I love the faces but god damn are those outer dials ugly

>>57735435
>french
it's pretty nice though

>>57738989
not too bad, internet stranger

>>57742588
>>57741880
that might be the ugliest pile of shit I've ever seen

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do you guys like my watch?

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What to do?

Next purchase either one of the two from pic related

OR

Tudor Heritage Chrono

What would youse choose?

>>57756622
for that price, i'd probably pick something else.
which one do you like anon?

>>57755670
>selenological features right would probably not be possible.
How about a small thin film or dome on the outside of the sphere that doesn't rotate. Print the features on that film. When it's over the light side the features are visible, but the printing matches the color of the dark side, meaning you can't see the features just due to contrast

>>57756648
I really like them all and can see myself owning each one of them at one point in my life. I think of the three the GS stands out as being most unique and interesting. But they all are..

>>57756648
and for that price what would you suggest instead?

>>57756740
you know.. i don't know.
personally, i like divers, but it seems like you are going for a different aethstetic

>>57756724
and i guess i'd agree about the Grand Seiko
i like that one best out of the three

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>>57756100
>outer dials
hahah are you a visitor giving (You)'s
Anyways man its called a bezel matey!

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>>57756772
Fair enough, I think Divers are awesome and probably what I liked the most in the beginning of my watch collecting. Actually my first big purchase was an Omega Seamaster. Stunning but sold it last year regretfully.

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How long does an F-91W usually last without having to change the battery?

>>57755331
And they have no water resistance.
Other than than, agree.

>>57756617
I'm not a big fan...

It has a feminine touch to it desu...

>>57757287
>It has a feminine touch to it
so do i

>>57738989
It looks like a 18mm strap on a 20mm watch

>>57739411
It works.

>>57741880
It has lots of potential, but so many bad choices when they made this watch. One would guess that for that kind of money they at least would be able to make a design with visible hands.

>>57743599
Both are good watches, but the Seagull obviously looks more expensive.

>>57756984
It's supposed to last 7 years if you use:

- 1 second of lighting a day
- and 20 s of alarm a dau

>>57744674
That's a nice orient.

>>57757327
u're a fag or u're a semen demon?

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>>57754106
Casio straps break easily as well.

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>>57756617
>fossil

>>57756622
Would be difficult to choose between Tudor or Grand Seiko. But it is something special to have a Grand Seiko. Even the worst Grand Seiko is likely way more accurate than both the others. It's such a subtle elegance, they really spend a lot of effort with the function.

Although both the others have lume with I like. And the IWC has this nice industrial look. Tricky choice.

>>57756622
Grand Seiko every time.

>>57757969
Grand Seiko if you are buying it for yourself.

Rolex/Omega/whatever if you are buying it for normies to admire.

>>57733511
What do you mean by this exactly? Dubai resident here tired of the constant "Dubai is a shithole memes".

>>57756622
I'd go grand seiko because i love em and nobody cares bout ur watch except u.

go for what u like

post best amphibias

>>57758101
Ignore those tards. Wisdom.

>>57756655
That would be a possibility. The main problem is that the sphere takes a lot of depth too, and will need space in all the plates of the mechanism. My understanding is that often there is one plate for the main timing including the escapement, and one for complications such as moonphase. The sphere would probably have to be fairly large to allow for a lunar face that could be appreciated.

Using a tritium filled glass sphere you could get it well lit at night, yellow for the lit face and blue for the dark side. I guess one could play a lot with this idea.

>>57758207
scuuuuuba duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

>>57756617
I hope you are a femanon and even so this is a bit on the gaudy side.

>>57756984
>That F-91W watch
>How long
Until you are arrested, I guess

>>57758257
which type? 420? 110? ???

>>57756100
>outer dial

Made me puke the glas milk my grandma just brought me to my bed before gong to sleep, what a fucking faggot.

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>>57749550
Thanks lads. Still deciding if I want that watch or the FET0R003W.

They're both rougly the same price

>>57757645

the battery is also good for 7 years if it just sits on a shelf and you never install it in a watch.

>>57758101

it's full of arabs that need to be gassed

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