/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Googly Eyes Edition

Is the Cryroig C7 the best low profile cooler? Noctua's option seems to be for low TDP components only, which isn't useful for gaymen.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qfXpr7
First build, please give advice.

>>57481059

Why the 1050ti? I'm not sure your space requirements cause you are going microatx so maybe you want a slim build, but I'd prefer the 470 at this point even though it's a bit more, seems like nearly twice the value for 50 bucks more.

>>57481059
If the intel CPU doesn't have the -K at the end, it comes with a stock processor that works fine.
>Mobo
Looks fine, but get a Z170 Chipset Mobo if you want to upgrade and keep cooler(read the sticky)
>Ram
Same thing as mobo, get DDR4-3000
>Storage
Yeezus, guess it works for a budget, but if I were you, see if you can find some old PCs in the house and cannibalize the HDDs and grab a 240 OCZ Trion SSD.
>GPU
Go 1050 2gb or RX 470 4gb. The cheapest is 169.99 for both XFX and MSI variants. 1050 has a higher value for it's performance.
>Case
Have fun with that
>PSU
Seriously, do yourself a favor and spend a bit more on the PSU that's rated Gold and is modular, because cable management can be a bitch in that case.
EVGA SuperNOVA 550 comes to mind.

>>57481146
>>57481174
I went with the 1050 Ti because I'm only going to be doing some light 1080p gaming.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xbjCD8

>>57481264

Looks good to me then lad

>>57481264
oh wait, what exactly is your budget?

I just realized you tacked the OCZ on with the build.

>>57481315
I want to keep it under $700

>>57480948
>With all your components at hand, it's time to start building your beast. You will need a few basic hand tools:
>Non magnetic Screwdriver (-).
>Non magnetic Philips Head Screwdriver (+).

Why is /g/ so bad at tech?

>>57481405
Oh, okay.
That makes things a LOT easier.

>470 setup, runs a lot of stuff really well.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvWCD8
Drop OS and maybe some light games on the SSD, faster booting times.(windows boot in less than 40 seconds or so)

>1050 ti setup, like you said, light 1080p gaming but a bit more storage on SSD.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q68vbj
Same thing, lighter GPU, but storage is a bit bigger.

Also, small tip for everyone in the thread-

Storage sizes are NOT as advertised.
They're listed out in decimal format, the computer reads it as binary.
so 500GB is actually 465.
( 500 GB x 1000^3 ) / ( 1024^3 )

I want to max out dota consistently so that it never ever drops below 144hz at 1080p

What graphics card do I need?

Is 16 GB of RAM really necessary for gaming in the current year?

>>57481528
You CAN game with 4GB, but that's REALLY stretching it for a few select games.

>>57481526
1060 3GB and anything equivalent upwards.

Think a 470 4GB might do that too.

>>57481570
I might go with the 480 8gb. I will probably be gaming on Linux anyways and would like some level of future proofing.

>>57481612
Get the 200 buck XFX that's up right now.

Fucking great deal, and it's even better if you're getting the fractal Node 202, as the blower style cooling system sends it out the back instead inside the case.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Psh8jc
I'd really like to get SeaSonic's Titanium PSU and the AMP! Extreme but they're so expensive.

>>57481663
I live in Canada sorry.

Lowest 470 is $230 with $10 shipping also higher taxes.

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What's a good case for portability?

Once a month, me and my friends have a LAN party and play vidya together. I normally bring my PC but I'm getting tired of having to set it back up at home. So I kind of want to build a PC for taking to the LAN parties and gaming conventions.

Something that's easy to hold and pick up would be nice, but something with handlebars or something similar would be neato.

I am looking to get a new PC this black Friday. Currently looking at something like this: https://www.komplett.no/wishlists/ca12903c-a074-40a1-8fe3-96da332ba38b

What do you think? (SSD costs the same as 120 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD, and I don't use much space. Worth it?

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I have a Corsair H100i V2 and it runs relatively quiet when idle, but when the fans spin up, they're loud and rattle like fuck. What fans should I replace them with that are quiet and won't break the bank?

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What does /pcbg/ think of noiseblocker eloops? Looking for something quiet that doesn't look as hideous as the noctuas

Is 2 140mm fans in the front and 1 140mm fan in the back acceptable? Using air cooled cpu/gpu.

>>57484218
Yes, 3 fans is the best setup

>>57481868
The HAF has handles and is ATX.
Any mitx case is really easy to carry.
Most matx cases shouldnt be much of an issue either.

What I would suggest is just getting some feet large enough that your fingers can fit under your case when it is sitting on a flat surface. This would probably be the best way to improve your ability to pick it up and set it down, assuming your case height is short enough that you can grab it from the bottom and not have it in your face.

>>57483547
I have them in a box. They are not quiet. They are shitty and noiseful. That's all.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/97W8jc
My first build, I plan to do light gaming, drawing, web browsing, and watching stuff. I'm at my maximum budget, I can only go slightly higher than what I have. Please give advice.

Hey guys I have big hands and MS, also I learned to type on a older and what seems like a larger keyboard.

So is it just me or are keyboards getting smaller? Everytime I buy a standard keyboard they feel small and cramped. But when I go to work I see older keyboards that appear to be slightly bigger and more of what I want.

Does anyone know what type of keyboard this is?

any word on black friday/cyber monday deals? i want see if i can get good prices for a new build

>>57481059
Drop cooler, use stock
Consider one 8GB stick of RAM, considering that mobo only has two RAM slots
Cheaper CPU (i3 6100)
Use the saved money for an SSD

If you can buy an RX470. Check out this build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ZhnQ7P

>>57481264
CPU is excessive unless you know you need it. An i3 will be fine
ADATA SSD is cheaper right now

>>57481570
>You CAN game with 4GB, but that's REALLY stretching it
No, not at all. Just because a game will allocate of to 8GB doesn't mean that it needs it. 4GB is plenty, especially on 390/970/480 tier cards

>>57481612
From what I've heard AMD sucks on linux

>>57481671
Get a 1070 or wait for 1080TI

>>57481868
What games are you playing?

>>57483326
If games it's a waste of money

>>57486043
Drop cooler
Get 240GB SSD
Get GTX 1050 2GB, 750Ti is crap at this point

>>57486803
I guess if I will do proprietary drivers I'll go with nvidia and the 1060 6gb

Is there any real reason to go for an 850 Pro over an 850 Evo?

I have an old AMD 1055t x6 with 4gigs of ddr3 ram. I want to get a new mobo + cpu + ram for my workstation, but I'm finding it hard to justify the cost. Would it be worth it to upgrade just the RAM even though its only DDR3?

>>57487201
What kind of work do you use it for?

>>57487247
Server development, mostly Java, and some node. IntelliJ eats up the RAM, and being able to run a VM decently would help, I'm not sure if this warrants a CPU upgrade though.

>>57487268
You could probably get 16 GB of RAM and FX 83xx CPU for fairly cheap without needing to upgrade MOBO.

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Has anyone ever used superbiiz to make a build before? Also any suggestions on my build(have a gtx970 for a gpu)?

>>57487449
3000MHz RAM

Can I use FreeSync with a GTX 1080? Or are nvidia absolute jews?

>>57487535
Gsync only. Don't worry, it only costs extra 300 shekels.

>>57487565
reeeee

UK, first build here, looking to try and get something around £500 which can handle some games. I could stretch to about £600 if there was something worth it.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6QVXnn

Should I dump the PSU and try and get something modular instead?

>>57486803
>being a wait faggot

>>57488675
>1070 or wait for 1080Ti
>not being able to read
>2016 Year of Our Lord

>>57488172
>some games
Which ones? Honestly the 4GB 470 is the best deal out right now for AAA gaming. Personally I'd save up for something equivalent to this build
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/ZhnQ7P

>>57481059
I'd pick up a i5 6600k instead of a 6500, it's about 25% faster and can be over clocked for only ~40$ more.

>>57488776
1070 can't do 1440p/144hz

Are the SeaSonic S12II's any good?

>>57486043
Drop the 750 for a 1050, or 1050ti, maybe get cheaper ram and drop the cooler.

>>57489089
Mine does for a lot of games including doom (perfectly btw), it's about 70-90fps for completely maxed cross platform games like witcher 3 and Forza Horizon, more like 120fps on low settings. G sync makes lower framerates not bad anyways

>>57489089
If the 1070 can't the 1080 can't either... only about 20% difference between the two. Paltry

You want the 1080Ti or to SLI 1070, but I wouldn't recommend the latter.

>>57486803
>>57489295
Why drop the cooler? I plan to overclock a moderate amount, and I don't want to have to deal with too large temps. Does keeping it do more harm than good?

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Is this dumb?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rXzx2R

>>57490061
Could be worse, get a cheaper PSU for sure and consider a smaller M2 + SATA SSD
Unless you're trying to save money then in that case you would be dumb

I can fit a Noctua NH-U12S and a GTX 1080 in an NZXT S340, right?

Can anyone reccomend a build that will last as long as possible amd will let me play most games at no lower than 60fps with ok graphics?

Also, what do you do with old parts when they no longer have any use?

What's the best PC I can build for $1000 including a keyboard and monitor?

>>57490805
If you ever want to upgrade to a K-series processor, this is the build for you

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Wxm3F

If you're not overclocking, here's the alternative.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DTsfhq

Note- Tack on 25.88 for the OEM Win 7 OS if you don't have a windows product key. Get it on Kinguin.

>>57491043
These are pretty good, thanks anon. What's your opinion on getting a 1060 over the 480 if I only plan to keep this build for about 2 years?

>>57491147
VRAM is the only argument I have.

Other than that, it's mostly I just like AMD a bit more than Nvidia.

What's the point of these threads? It's obvious that the more expensive computer parts you buy, the better of the built computer will be.

>>57491238
That's not exactly the case.

Hyper super duper expensive 3k ram works just as well as a normal 3k ram does.

Plus, 6700K's hyperthreading can actually hurt the frames on some games.

It's about getting the best bang for your buck, which isn't always going for the most expensive fucking thing on the market.

It's like when the EVGA 1070/80 series of cards were blowing up and shit, expensive as hell, but an even bigger loss.

>>57481868
Corsair 380t isn't bad

>>57491381
You're not very convincing about it

>>57491754
Lemme put it you to this way.
Not everyone has a 1000 dollars to throw at a PC.

>>57491238
Maybe you've never heard of a budget because you're 12 or something, but most people have only a set amount of money they can spend on the build. Plus some components are expensive memes, and some are just incompatible. The thread is here to run builds past people who have a bit of knowledge or experience.

>>57491771
>>57491791
Just buy the most expensive components that you can afford. Basically this is what will happen, when you'll ask about it here.

>>57480948
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dMpL4C
Thoughts? Specifically, are the motherboard and GPU memes or are they good value? Looking to game 60fps 1080p modern AAA titles.

>>57491813
Yeah, lets buy a card that does just as well as the card that's 40 bucks below it.

Bought my GPU at 185, it was all I could afford.

Prices dropped, and one of the better manufactures is selling theirs for 169.

Expensive != better performance.

>>57491953
But that's not true Anon, Expensive does = better performance, you just don't know about it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ZJDJV
My first build, built a year and a half ago. Never thought to get any advice. May as well now.
Power supply is a bit much but I wanted to go sli at some point. Is that possible or even a good idea?

>>57491982
You know what, I realized I'm arguing on the internet again.
You win, whatever.

>>57492145
I'm not arguing, I was just curious about your opinion :)

>Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
>Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
>G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
>Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
> Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card
>NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case
>EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
>Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer
>TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
>Fractal Design GP14-WT 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan
> Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor
>Acer R240HY bidx 23.8" 60Hz Monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NwDTPs
not editing, just playin vidia, im fucking stupid when it comes to computers so please help ty

>>57492270
Keep the custom cooler in it's packaging and the motherboard+ram if you plan to upgrade to a K-series CPU that can actually overclock, unlike the locked 6500 there that can't.

Ditch Caviar Blue, get the Black instead.
Depending on your budget, go with the 500 Gig SSD.

Don't go wifi, get a 50/75 foot ethernet cable and trail it through house/walls, trust me when I say this. Almost zero lag.

If you're going multi monitor, get 2 144hz monitors. That 1070 is overkill for 60 hertz.

>>57489515
Money would be better spent elsewhere. I wouldn't bother to OC that CPU

>>57490494
>last as long as possible
Of course you'd just buy the best of everything

Look at some of the 'upgradable' builds in the PCBG pcpartpicker link in the OP if you're looking for something cheaper

>>57491816
Need Z170 mobo to overclock

>>57491982
That's why people spend $2500 on coach handbags or 'us gaymers' gaymen rigs, right? Also there are price/perf metrics etc

>>57492270
It's fine, but you may as well get a 6600K so that you can overclock if you're already buying a Z170 and a cooler. If you don't just use stock cooler until you do upgrade to an unlocked CPU

Hey /g/. Looking to build my first rig and need some pointers. Going for a powerful workstation/gayming build.

>1. Should I waterloop or should I stick to liquid air cooling?
>2. Would this build Ii made suit my demands? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXJhjc
>3. Should I stick with the Razer case?
>4. Any general advice to give me?
It's my first time trying to build a PC so forgive me if I sound like a noob.

>>57480948

Rate my budget build

Cpu: i5-3570k
Heat sink: H60 water cooler
Mobo: DZ77SL50k
Memory: 8 gig of 1300 ddr3
GPU: R9-390 Strix

Prices
$45 cpu from russia
$60 water cooler
$70 motherboard
$free ram
$free hard drives and OS
$220 for the gpu with a few broken vanes on its fans

Total: $380

I'm currently waiting for the last few parts to come in, so if you have any advice there's still time to return shit and get other stuff.

>>57492681
>$45 for OCing Ivy i5
>free Ram and HDD
I dont know how you did that but envy/10
>tfw living in 3rd world where everything is 50% more expensive than they are in freedom land

>>57492589
waterloop/liquid "air" as you call it, are the same.

There's Custom loops and All-in-ones, or AIO's.

Look at reviews for different cases. Personally, I'd go with a case made by Fractal design, they're very reputable.

And the build is fine, throw in a 500 Gig Samsung 850 EVO SSD, then put the OS on the SSD. Boot time is cut in half and programs you store on there boot up even faster.

Oh, and get DDR4-3000 or higher MHz Ram, DDR4-2133 will throttle frames a bit.

Recommendations? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6kgNvV

How much is the zen going to cost and what is it comprobalae to?

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http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sMBdxY

r8 or h8

>>57493115
People are guessing the 8 core processor is gonna be about 300 and equal to a 5820K or so.
The other processors, I don't know.
Nothing has been confirmed yet.

>>57493094
Holy fuck, are you me?
I'm making a similar build, but with my old Dell Studio 540 Case.

Though I suggest cutting it down to the 470, as it's even cheaper letting you expand on the PSU should you want to go bigger on parts in t he future.

Also, I'd get a Cooler Master 212 Evo for OC'ing.

>>57492831

I sniped it at 3am west coast time ebay auction. Believe or it not, it came from Russia. I was expecting to get a dead cpu considering it's place of orgin. But, the damn thing posts and boots into windows when plugged into a friend's system.

>>57493213
Could I oc the 470 to get 480 like performance? Also the CPU comes with the new cooler which should be good for a little over clocking so do I really need a new cooler ?

>>57493174
very qt build, that rx 480 is going to get heavily bottleneck by the cpu though, just get a 470

>>57493319
wanted to reply to
>>57493174

>>57493333
fucking quads senpai, checke'm
also i'm retarded, wanted to reply to the guy with the x4 845

Is WinCdEmu still the best software for mounting Iso's?
Just built my new computer and I want to use the most proficient and best software since I have a fresh start again.

>>57493307
AMD CPUs can get hot, I wouldn't trust stock cooler when running it at 4.0 GHz.

And depending on the model of 470, you probably could get it do 90% of what the 480 can do.

>>57493447
Oh, ok. Its just that I've seen the new AMD cooler was way better than the old ones

I got $600 budget.
>Intel i5 4460
>GTX 1050ti
>12GB RAM
>250 SSD, (I got a spare 1TB HDD)
No idea for mobo, cooler, case and PSU. Any advice?

So fucking Gamestop is selling Alienware Steam Machines this black friday. Because they're so small, I'm thinking of getting one and loading up some fun party games and roms.

For this purpose, which is the better value?
Alienware i7 w/ 8GB RAM 1TB HDD $374.99 (was $749.99)
http://www.gamestop.com/pc/consoles/alienware-steam-machine-i7-1tb/121863
Alienware i3 w/ 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD $224.99 (was $449.99)
http://www.gamestop.com/pc/consoles/alienware-steam-machine-i3-500gb/121859

They seemingly have the exact same GPU, an nVidia GeForce GTX GPU w/2GB GDDR5. Another cool thing is that ram and even the CPU can be upgraded. Comes with a Steam controller.

In the future there's a big bonus to also being able to run SFV and Tekken 7 on it when it comes out, but I'm not holding my breath.

Thoughts?

>>57493527
Damn, thats actually a good deal....wait.

What's the GPU.

And I swear if it says NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX GDDR5 or some bullshit, FUCK.

Got two questions about

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813132568

When it says "Supports DisplayPort 1.2* with max. resolution 4096 x 2160@24Hz / 3840 x 2160@60Hz", with the * meaning "DP 1.2 Multi-Stream Transport compliant, supports DP 1.2 monitor daisy chain up to 3 displays ", is that saying it's not actually display port 1.2?

the second question is about the "HDMI 2.0 60Hz resolution support requires necessary drivers update". Is that driver update doable after windows is already installed and everything, or would it require reinstalling windows to do the update?

Asking because I want to make sure my build can use the htc vive, which apparently requires DMI 1.4, DisplayPort 1.2 or newer

Also, on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813132640, how can I tell what HDMI/displayport versions it supports? I don't see it listed anywhere

>>57493527
Looked it up, i7-4765 with 860M.

Eugh, out of the two, I'd get the i7.
Either way, you're still paying for OLDER components. Don't get me wrong, CPU is fine, but that GPU...

>>57493547
Also, regarding the second motherboard I posted there, why is it more expensive then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132566 ?

They seem to be identical spec wise,

>>57493581
So i7 Quadcore is worth the extra $150?

And yeah the components are kinda shitty, but man the formfactor is tiny. It's smaller than a PS4 slim.

Seems ideal for loading up some emulators, maybe some Powestone, Smash Bros, TMNT arcade, etc... But also highly attractive to bring to places and place some fighting games.

>>57493681
Honestly, if you're not on a budget and play a lot of CPU intensive games, go with the i7.

Otherwise, upgrade the i3 with a bit more ram.

>>57493539
>>57493581
>>57493681
>>57493738
Looked it up, apparently the GPU is a GTX 860m

Not sure if that can run SFV at 1080/60fps, much less Tekken 7.

>>57480948
Ok, looking for recommendations. From the USA. Want to build a computer for audio production. I'm not a gamer so graphics power is mostly trivial but I might play something occasionally. I do already have a graphics card, however, along with a power supply and a disk drive. I'm also all set on monitors and peripherals. Anything in particular I should look out for for an audio build? I'm thinking an intel i7 for hyperthreading and a good amount of RAM, but I'm open to advice.

>>57493750
That's the point I was making earlier in >>57493581.

In all honesty, get a cheap mini ITX, scrounge around for an i3 or Athlon and then get the smallest form factor case and go with a 1050/1050ti.

This is one case where paying for more is actually better.

Or you can try to jerry rig the steam machine and see if you can get a new GPU inside, but I doubt it.

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>>57493094
>>57493213
That CPU is shit. It's four core just like the FX6300 is six core, but actually that's just integer cores and those integer core are linked to a floating point core in a ratio of 1:2. So the 845 is not truly four core (that's marketing speak); it's two module, four thread.

Additionally the 845 is basically like the FX4300 but with a lower clockspeed. The 4300 is always at the very fucking bottom of CPU benchmarks and CANNOT drive the GPU to anything close to its fullest potential. The 480 significantly outpaces it.

X4 845 is worse that the FX4200, see pic for reference. Next post will have the framerates for graphics cards, and you will be able to see that the average possible framerate is cut in half, ie, wasted money on the RX480

>>57493767
What card and power supply?

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>>57493094
>>57493213
>>57493826
Notice the average framerate with the FX 4100 is 49FPS, while the average framerate when GPU limited with the RX460 is 91FPS

>>57493826
>integer cores and those integer core are linked to a floating point core in a ratio of 1:2.
Sorry, should have been 2 int cores : 1 FP core, i.e. 2:1

>>57493826
The two modules act as 4 physical cores, unlike Intel's hyperthreading were one core virtualized 2

>>57493854
This is done with a i7 and there is no 460 on it
>>57493867
This was to in theory improve multi threaded workloads and it worked very well. With the use of dx12 AMD chips will be the better chip than an more expensive Intel chip.

I want my frame times tho. Not like I'm going to be playing any shitty bf1 anyway.

>>57493115
We'll see, Intel is already responding because they're making the Kaby Lake Pentium hyperthreaded.

Hopefully for people who want a good CPU, the prices of a four core with SMT will dramatically drop.

>>57493174
Need some DDR4 RAM

>>57493521
Don't buy an old i5 like that, also that's too much CPU for the 1050Ti. Get a cheaper modern platform / CPU with DDR4 and a better graphics card with the saved money

>>57493527
Both are really bad for emulation. Emulation needs strong single core per, and since those CPUs have low clockspeeds they will have a low single core perf. The best emulation CPU is an i5 6600K OC'd to 4.5

>>57493957
what are you emulating to need that kind of CPU?

>>57493918
>The two modules act as 4 physical cores,
4 INT cores, which are _bottlenecked_ by 2 FP cores
You are one of the people stupid enough to fall for the marketing if you actually think that Athlon is a "four core" CPU.

>there is no 460 on it
My bad, meant 480, because that's what that guy was going to pair it with. You can see the end of the post with the CPU bench in it.

>This is done with a i7
Of course you fucking moron, that shows how shitty your Athlon will be. It's called a bottleneck. You're wasting your money on a 480

>With the use of dx12 AMD chips will be the better chip than an more expensive Intel chip
That is under DX12 you moron

Literally the most retarded person I've seen in this thread in a while

>>57493979
there is no 460 on it

>>57493854
>460
Correction, RX480

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>>57493918
>>57493957
Sorry, here is the DX12 benchmark.. 1FPS change

>>57493979
https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-unofficial-the-unofficial-dolphin-benchmark-results-updated-jun-30-2015

PSX2 is about the same

>>57494000
I thought I was going to have a good conversation on /g/ for a second but you went straight to calling me a retard.
Anyway as I said, the 1 FP per 2 cores improves multi core performance which under dx12 will help the performance of the chip in those titles.
>>57494048
Why do you keep posting bf1 benchmarks. The devs don't even recommend using dx12 because its implementation is unfinished.

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>>57494069
>The devs don't even recommend using dx12 because its implementation is unfinished.
COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG, show proof. You're thinking of DE:MD

>1 FP per 2 cores improves multi core performance which under dx12
Holy shit, quite literally a moron. THE X4 845 IS AS BAD AS THE FX4100

THERE IS LITERALLY NO POINT TO PAIRING THE 845 WITH AN RX480. SIGNIFICANT BOTTLENECK, IE YOU GET THE SAME FUCKING PERFORMANCE WITH A CHEAPER GRAPHICS CARD

God damn you are stupid

>>57493957
it is ddr4

>>57494066
to be fair, this post seems to be outdated, and I think Dolphin 5.0 increases performance for lower end CPUs

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>>57494100
LESS THAN HALF THE FPS THAT THE 480 IS CAPABLE OF

>>57494122
It's not outdated. Post competing benchmarks

Don't build now.

Wait for black friday

>>57494163
non ameritard here, when is black friday?

>>57494174
friday after thanksgiving.

>>57494174
You don't have Google in your country? Or is it common for mothers to have to wipe their sons' assholes in your culture?

>>57494129
>>57494100
>Ill take a sec to answer this thread properly. An FX CPU is made up of "modules" that each consist of 2 integer processing units and one floating point unit. So an 8 "core" FX does indeed have 8 processing cores sharing 4 floating point units. This is by far superior to hyperthreading as these are actual real stand alone processing units unlike hyper threading. 4 core = 2 module, 6 core = 3 module, 8 core = 4 module.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1798367/true-amd-8350-cores-cpu.html


>whenever the FPU was in use by a core, the other core had to wait till the FPU finished its current task – acting as a bottleneck and leading to accusations of the flagship processor not being a “true” 8 core.The rationale given behind the decision was because of space problems on the die and higher integer throughput to be achieved. With the shift to sub-20m architecture however there will be ample space in the cores for an integrated FPU.
http://wccftech.com/amd-one-fpu-per-core-design-zen-processors/

>>57494180
when is thanksgiving?

Thanks to these threads i built my PC and got laid
THANKS!

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>>57494129
>>57494100
http://www.pcgamer.com/battlefield-1-performance-analysis/

>>57494245
What is your point? I posted RotTR benchmarks. Also eurogamer had no problem with DX12 in BF1. I don't know what kind of scrub websites you read

>>57494281
You said it your self
>FPS change
Proving that bf 1 dx12 implementation is incomplete. Last the fact than you keep using one game to prove your point does not help your point.

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>>57494317
I've posted two. Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 and BF1 DX12.

Here's a third. My point (RX480 is bottlenecked by X4 845--do you know what this means?) is amazingly simple and backed up by ample evidence.

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>>57494367

>>57494211
>>57494187

>>57494385
>using google botnet

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>>57494372
>>57494367
>you have yet to show me a benchmark with a x4 485 and a 480
>posts a benchmark with CPUs and a 1080
>one that does not even have a 480 in it
K fa.m

>>57494442
Obviously the 480 will be better than the 470 you god damned moron. Use that for a reference and at 15%

The Athlon X4 845 is a 4 INT core, 2 module CPU just like AMD's FX 4100, 4200, and 4300 series. The X4 845 has cores like the FX 4300 but at a lower clockspeed

You are so stupid senpai

THE 480 IS A WASTE OF MONEY IF PAIRED WITH THE 845

LOOK AT THE MINIMUM AND AVERAGE FPS WITH COMPARABLE HARDWARE

THE 845 CUTS THE FRAMERATE IN FUCKING ___HALF___

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I have a question. This is the build I recently made.
>Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
>I7 6700K
>Corsair vengeance LED 3200 DDR4 Ram
>GTX 1070

Now Speccy previously showed that my ram is 1070Mhz ? Then I went to UEFI and enabled SMP. Now Speccy shows 1600Mhz ram? An improvement but no where near 3200Mhz I'm supposed to have? What to do now guys?

>>57494473
>senpai
kek, forgot about word filter

>>57494477
Speccy shows half the double data rate (DDR)

>>57494490
Is this true? So 1600 is what its supposed to show?

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>>57494442
>Doesn't know how benchmarks work/10

>>57494500
>Is this true?
You are indescribably stupid. What would you like me to do, say Yes? Just look through any speccy thread and see if you find a pattern

>>57494526
Sry. Thanks

>>57494477
Read this, be enlightened, and learn to love hardware beyond the specs.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/everything-need-know-ram-memory-management/

>>57494397
>Oh he's telling me to use GOOGLE!
>GUESS I BETTER WHINE ABOUT IT INSTEAD OF USING AN ALTERNATIVE.

>>57494473
The 845 has better ipc and a lower tdp. Surely you know what that means

>>57494576
>845 has a better IPC
So fucking what? There's no way a relatively small boost is going to change the single core performance significantly, less than 10%. The the 4200 for instance boosts to 4.3GHz, while the X4 845 is stuck at 3.8. Even if it got a 10% boost the percent difference between the clockspeeds is 13%, so the 845 would still be slower. The CPUs are approximately the same, which is why I've been using them as fucking reference. You're a literal moron

>>57494673
>I don't know what overclocking is
>not knowing AMD chips are famous for getting high clock speeds
>I feel the need to put an insult at the end of all my posts to make my self feel better

What, functionally is the difference between clock speeds of a GPU? You could spend a shitload of extra money on a couple hundred extra MHz of speed, but what does it really amount to?

A coworker asked me to build a gayyming pc for his son.

I need to know which cpu is the best bang for the buck right now. If i would build one for myself i would go with the i5 k version, but that is out of the question since it's to expensive.

Trying to get him to wait for AMD zen which will be released next year, but he wants the kid to have to computer on Xmas else the kid will throw a tantrum.

Would and i3 be decent enough, i presume AMD is out of the question since Zen will be here soon.

The budget is about $1000

>>57495267
i5-6500 is 165$ with SHOP10 or TRIPLE15 at Jet.com

Probs will be lower on Black friday, so take yer pic.

and I'm on an i3-6100 right now, it's pretty fucking fantastic, having come from a Q8200.

but if it's a 1000 budget...
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/X4Cnd6
Alternatively, you can just swap out the 6600 for a 6500.

But seriously, a 6600 in a 1k budget ain't that hard.

>>57494712
Even if you OC to 4.5 it's still gonna suck, retard.
B-O-T-T-L-E-N-E-C-K

>>57494807
Getting a binned chip that will likely OC even higher

>>57495594
>Getting a binned chip that will likely OC even higher

So the chips used in factory OC'd cards are in fact of higher quality? I'm not quite sure what you meant.

>>57495653
Yes, they have to meet extra standards. You might get a good chip in lesser card, but it's more of a gamble

>>57488776
>Which ones?
Games I'm looking at right now are Civ6 and WoT, and XCOM2. I'm stuck on a laptop now, so I can't even run anything that needs DX11.

Nothing that would require extremely heavy graphics, which is why I went with the 1050. I don't really mind too much if I can put it on high settings, so long as I can get something to run and not play like a slide show.
I should be able to get by with integrated graphics or a slightly more budget graphics card, but I'd like to have the option of playing modern games if anything catches my eye once I get back into gaming.


The parts in the build are fairly low power. Would I be able to drop down to a 350W PSU and still have enough for the i3-6100 and 1050?

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>>57486160
A mechanical keyboard?

>r9 390x
>i7 970 OC'd to 3.6

how bottlenecked am I

>>57497149
i7 930***

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xZ7JtJ

Just want a nice Mini ITX build that will play a few games well and run GNU/Linux. Will probably upgrade to 4 monitors with two in portrait on the side and two in the middle above and below. Will also upgrade the GPU in a year is so.

Rate.

>>57498182
>almost 2017
>$1400
>DDR3
3/10

Anyone in here ever built a homemade NAS that works as a media station?
I need some tips where to start. I want to build one for my gf and her parents. They have like 3TB of movies which sit around on their many portable hdds and laptops. It should be strong enough to handle streaming to 2 TVs at the same time.

So I've made a little build, to fit in my budget (4k pln)

>CPU
Intel Core i5 6600 3.3GHz
>GPU
Gigabyte GeForce 1060 6GB OC Windforce
>MB
Asus Z170-P
>RAM
2x8GB Crosair Vengeance LPX DDR4 (3000 MHz) (Yes, I know the motherboard can only go up to 2133MHz, but it's actually cheaper than 2133 RAM)
>Power
Silentium PC Supremo M2 Gold 550W (SPC140)
>Case
Silentium PC Gladius X60 Pure Black (SPC095)
>Storage
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM 3,5"

Anything you'd change?
I also have a 1TB 850 Samsung EVO that's in my laptop, that I'll put into the desktop.

Also, I'm ordering it all from one store where I can have it already made into a set, do you think I should order that service, or should I do it myself?

It's my first desktop PC, please be gentle

>>57498310
Drop to 6500 and get a cheaper B150 or H170 mobo, also another 1060 card (Gainward, Palit or Zotac migh be cheaper/better in EU).
>Silentium PC
I heard that you polskis have a hard-on for this brand, but idk whether it's actually good or shit.

>>57498386
I don't mind spending more for a mobo, as I'm planning to get better parts in 4-6 months and just replace those.

>brand
Eh, it's just rather cheap, compared to the other options. Looks good, has good ratings, a good power rating, matches my specs and also has a better price than more known brands.

I'll look into changing the cpu maybe, thanks

>>57498280
Find me a miniITX motherboard with DDR4 support that is decent and I'll bite.

>>57498413
>I'm planning to get better parts in 4-6 months
Get a Z170 then, Kaby Lake will fit onto that socket.
If you have enough money left you should look into the Gigabyte UD3, otherwise your mobo should be fine.

>>57498456
With the current setup I'm actually barely fitting in my budget (3950 for everything I've listed)
Seems like it's a good build then, thanks.

>>57498489
In that case definitelly get a 6500 and UD3 for Kaby Lake, i guess like 50 PLN more won't hurt you, will it?

>>57498510
well, no, it won't.
>Gigabyte UD3
The only one I found is some older AMD motherboard? I'm not sure if that's the one you meant.

Is waiting for the 1080 ti a meme? Should I just grab a 1080 on sale during the holidays?

>>57498543
This one:
http://www.ceneo.pl/39801180#mh=a0a1aaaa13008gigabyteoUHuM3G7GkhrN4Adx3MppCEkyhOQpTqypzEQXv5wznBNq9qaMOqN3melck6G6zFg7A4amWwk9JirFzBeU4mTESMzfXpbo7qSro7seWx-j1axosuOD3lNUP-_zL_oOE-9Ur_jinh64_DnaYRVn577jHLlIy7bQJOWc63Mfh9A0nE1

>>57498543
Oh, I guess you meant "Gigabyte Z170X-UD3"
That one has the same socket as that asus one I've listed

>>57498566
Besides having higher RAM speeds, what's the point?
I mean, I could change my Asus MB for this one, while keeping the 6600, it's alright I guess.
I'm guessing it's just better for the future?

>>57498616
Gigabyte Ultra Durable mobos are just great, your mobo is not bad or something, it's just a cheap entry Z170 board, whereas the UD3 is overall superiour.
And if you plan on upgrading your parts anyways, go for a better mobo and cheaper CPU since you're going to switch it anyways, unless you want to keep the CPU, of course.

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http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3XHx2R

I also have pic related psu and a xion case

>>57498668
Well, the Gigabyte Mobo you've linked seems to have problems, both with hw and bios...
I guess I could pick out a weaker CPU, but I'd rather actually have good performance even before I switch out parts. I don't mind spending a bit more to get more out of this....

>>57498696
Huh.. never heard of UD series having problems. I actually planned a build with i5-6600K and the UD3.
The performance difference between i5-6500 and 6600 is not that huge, 6600K is a different story.

What would you rate my rig? Mostly for gaming, with a budget of $2.7k. I live in the USA, and I'm upgrading from a potato to a beast. Any suggestions on optimization or improvements? I have air cooled fans.
>CPU: i5-6600k 3.5GHz Quad-Core
>GPU: EVGA 1080 ACX 3.0
>RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x16 DDR4-2666 CAS 15
>Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX
>HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
>PSU: EVGA 650W Gold
>Case: NZXT Phantom 530 ATX Full
>Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT 2560x1440 165Hz IPS

>>57498729
The reviews on the site I'm building my pc on list it at 3.5 stars...
I originally planned to go with 6600K, but it doesn't have a cooler, and since I'll be upgrading to a different GPU/CPU in few months, I'd rather have it in a single package....

>>57498749
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dPtYLD This should be the link to the build.

So is the rx 480 really that bad?

>>57498824
Unless you can manage to keep it cool, and quiet. At that point, just get a GTX 1060

>>57498753
Strange, on every site i searched it has good reviews. Maybe the 3.5 rating is for the vendor and not the mobo?

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Hey guys, I'm running into an issue here :

I want to pick parts for a friend of mine, but it's not a PC that's going to be used for games and it has to cost less than 500 dollars. The problem is that I'm used to pick parts for huge gaming rigs and I really don't know about good cheap parts. The computer will mostly be used for photo and video editing. Can someone give me a hand ?

>>57499034
>Video editing
>less than $500
I want whatever drugs your friend is on.

>>57499298
I don't know shit about video editing, why wouldnt this work ?

>>57499034
>>57499548
Tell your friend that if he wants decent video editing, it's going to be MINIMUM 400 bucks for a 1070.

Wouldn't trust it with a 1060/480 at all.

>>57499623
I'll talk to her about it, but would a 500 dollar PC be ok for good photo editing, at least ?

>>57499034
Your friend needs to raise the budget by 10x. Video editing demands a lot from a pc rig, which you can't get with simply $500. This is for professional editing though.

>>57499645
Shit man, lemme show you what a 500 buck build looks like.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/KxgjJV

Prices have dropped, but that processor WILL throttle you in adobe.

i7-6700k is what she wants man.

>>57499739
Okay thanks for the info. Do you think a 500 bucks PC could at least do basic stuff ? And would it be of for photo editing ?

>>57499757
Thanks a lot for the info and for that build, it'll greatly help. Do you think this would be at least ok for photo editing ?

>>57499794
Again, it might work for light photo editing, but that's an estimate on my part.

Your best bet is going to jet.com and getting an i5-6500 from there, as it's 165$ with SHOP10 or TRIPLE15, I don't remember which code it was.

>>57499813
Ok, thanks a lot !

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gL4VD8
How would this build do for games like Overwatch, or emulating PS1 games?

>>57498749
>>57498776

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CMwvbj

heres your optimized build.

>>57499034
If you have a budget that low, and it won't be used for gaming, I'd suggest go AMD. FX 8350 would be a great choice, since video editing does better with more cores, unlike gaming where it only uses 1 or 2 cores. A good budget gpu like the 1050ti would go good with it too.

>>57486803
>Get GTX 1050 2GB, 750Ti is crap at this point
It is, no question, but it's still decent for older games and can be had with passive cooling, i.e. completely quiet. Also does not require auxiliary power leads.

>>57499976
Any modern computer can emulate PS1 games

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wsmZFd

Revised my build for DDR4. Rate/correct me family.

>>57500077
either drop your cpu to the non k and stick with the stock cooler or upgrade your mobo to z170

>>57500012
Thanks, I'll check it out

>>57499034
celeron skylake h110m 4gh ddr4

cheapest psu and case

~200$

>>57500234
nice !

>>57500077
>business chipset
why?

An ASUS Z170 or H170 would be better

>>57500131
>>57500294
Thanks family.

Everything else looks muy bueno?

>>57500077
>>57500368
change your ram to this
http://www.outletpc.com/ny3654-crucial-bls4k4g4d240fsa.html

its much faster and less expensive

>>57500429
>4gb per stick
>not 8
get outta here

>>57500429
How about the 2x8 version?

>>57500452
>>57500468

http://ram.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-DDR4-2400-C16-4x4GB-vs-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-DDR4-2400-C16-2x8GB/3561vs3611

see for yourself

New motherboards that support DDR4 say that they support speeds like 2133/2400/2666/3000 MHz etc. but in this video (skip to 2:30) there is an option to run the RAM at speeds well below 2133MHz - yet 2133MHz is the lowest speed supported according to the motherboard manufacturer's website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeDZqIyKQs0

Can this be done on all Z-series motherboards?

what do I build around this stuff I have already purchased?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yTV97h

1080p@144hz

>>57496241
You'll have to turn some settings down to get >30FPS on Civ6 with a GTX 1050

You could go with a 350W PSU, but that might hamstring you in the future

>>57497149
Depends on the game. Your CPU will perform better with newer titles that are heavily multithreaded. Just hold out as long as you can

>>57498182
Get a modern platform, aka i5 6500 with DDR4. I read your reply to the other anon, and you can fuck off and do your own research

>>57498310
That Z170 can support 3000MHz RAM. You have to enable XMP from BIOS.

Either get the i5 6500 or the i5 6600K and a cooler

>>57498749
Get 3000MHz RAM
Get 240GB SSD
Drop to 1070 or wait for 1080Ti (wccftech just had an update about it)

>>57498824
It's good.

>>57500020
They're the same price, and the 1050 doesn't require any PCIe power connectors either. No reason to buy a 750Ti

>>57500077
Can't OC on that mobo. Need a Z170. If you keep the B150 drop to an i5 6500

>>57500633
Need a Z170 mobo and a 1060/480 or 1070.

>>57500687
what z170 do you suggest for an ATX case?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xKkrm8

Possibly the final revision. Rate/Correct.

>>57500496
From his advice I am getting 4x4 but I can't find it on PCpartpicker so just pretend.

4gb rx 480 or 3gb 1060?

>>57500746
me on the right

>>57500736
Depends on your needs

>>57500804
Depends on price, but if you're in the USA get the 4GB 480

>>57500804
480

>>57500746
Get 3000MHz RAM

>>57500924
wtf. Link it.

>>57500886
I want to be a cool boy, those are my needs

>>57500687
>Drop to 1070 or wait for 1080Ti (wccftech just had an update about it)
EVGA allowed customers who bought a 980 to upgrade to a 1080 if purchased within 90 days.

>>57501030 (me)
Didn't clarify, wouldn't they allow for a 1080 to 1080ti step-up?

>>57500964
wtf. No

>>57501030
>>57501045
Call them and ask

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So a while back, I bought a Sugo SG13 case.

It's shit, don't buy it, I want a replacement.

The build quality is terrible - the front panel is attached by tiny plastic tabs, half of which will break during delivery. The only nice thing about it is the size and minimalism.

What's the best Mini-ITX case I can transplant my parts into? Willing to go a little bit larger if I can fit an extra 3.5-inch HD. I'm willing to spend on good build quality. I'm UK if it makes a difference.

>>57501092
phanteks enthoo evolv itx

Is the NZXT Phantom 530 a good choice for a case?

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Would anyone recommend Micro-ATX over regular ATX for a first time-builder?

>>57501327
Depends on your budget, and parts. Go with a mid-tower if you can, give yourself the option to upgrade.

>>57501150
aka the worst case Phanteks have ever made
Go with a Fractal Mini XL

>>57501327
>Would anyone recommend Micro-ATX over regular ATX for a first time-builder?
Ask yourself these questions
>do you need more than one add-in card (including video cards)
>do you need more than six SATA ports
>do you need to spend more on a larger motherboard with more pointless features
>do you need to put impractical overclocks on your CPU, memory, or BCLK
If you answered No to all of these questions, then you don't need an ATX case or board. If you answered Yes to two or more, consider an ATX board.

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>>57501791
I figured an ATX would be superfluous considering my purposes (Vidya and basic media consumption) but I needed to know for sure before I pulled the trigger on it. Thanks anon.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6yYKcc

+ power supply : LDLC QS-650 + gold semi-modular
+ Video card : Inno3D gtx 970 4g oc

My first build.

whats the best atx mid tower case with TEMPERED GLASS SIDE PANEL

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xHPdxY
A friend of mine wants this so that he can play mainstream video games and also fuck around with installing a few other linux distros. Budget must remain <$1300

>>57501978

Get a 6500, the 6600 (non K) isnt worth that much.

if youre going to buy windows, dont buy it for more then 30 bucks.

https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/m7KDJV

I guess this is the final lap, any suggestions to optimize this? I can't really think of anything else.

Budget is ~1000, dont want it to be more then 20 bucks over.

>>57502005
Trying not to fall for the bootleg windows meme. Does this OEM key actually give you full upgrading windows? Also if so, where would I download windows itself? Also thanks for the tip on the 6500, how noticeable of a difference is there between the two?

>>57502053
First tip, the key IS windows, all you need to do is go to microsoft's website and download the .iso for USB, or get a window's installation disc.

And yes, the key is legit, if not, the website has some warranty or some shit to protect you.


6600 is about 7% better due to the higher clocks, and thats about it.

>>57501908
Holy shit no, get a fucking modern platform with DDR4 like the Z170 and an i5 6600K

>>57502044
Get SSD

>>57501978
Get i5 6600K with 3000MHz RAM if you're going to OC
Otherwise drop to B150 mobo and i5 6500 and stock cooler

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YQTgzM I tried making a cheap gaming computer, but I exceeded my budget of $500

What's the best z170 Mobo for $150-70?

DDR4 is a meme

>>57500746
>that neck
every time

Does it make a difference in using USB 2.0 or 3.0 for creating a Linux USB?

>>57492055
Decent build, but 3TB HDDs are known to have a high failure rate, so you should probably replace that.

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Got some shit off of DirectCanada

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Would it be worth it just get a RX470/GT1060 and a FX series chip or should i get a new motherboard and an 6100?

>>57503130
Yes if your board will support a 6350 or 8350. By far the best option

>>57502215
>look mom

>>57502647
I was looking at it too, must be a shop right?

>>57503130
If youre only getting an i3 theres no reason to. Stay AMD so you dont swap your mobo unless you want an i5. Which I do recommend you get with a cheap mobo

>>57503130
Might want to add an SSD while you're at it

>>57502044
Unless youre doing mass video editing what the fuck am I looking at. Give this some context. 480 paired with a 6700k?

Updated with more SSD space and 6600k
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MK7bwV
anything else i should worry about? im using the 60h monitor for netflix/youtube while i play on my 144hz so no real need for another 144hz, right?

>>57502044
>480, 16 GB ram, and with 6700k
What the flying fuck are you doing anon?

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i built my brother a really nice computer last year and now im looking for a budget computer so we can play together

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2rMHRG

need monitor recommendations

>>57503207
Look at the guy at the far right.

Yes it's a shop.

>>57503293
Looks good and I like the design. You could probably save some money toning down your rig, 250gb ssd less wattage psu, different case etc. By all means buy this though.

>>57503392
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Need an i3 6100. Even slow ass logicalincrements finally quit recommending the 6300.

If you want to get an 83XX + mobo + RAM used, it's fine.

Also get your asshole brother to give you some money for your rig

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=ZhnQ7P

>>57503392
Dont get AMD last gen platforms. Either wait for Zen or, in my opinion, get a Skylake CPU. Get a i3 6100 and h110m mobo with ddr4 2133 mhz ram for the same price and youll have a better computer with more upgradability. The ssd and psu are fine. 1050ti is a meme card and you should either get a 470 4gb or a 480 4 or 8 gb or a 1060 6gb depending on price.

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I currently have a GTX 1080 in my main computer, and a GTX 1070 on loan to my friend.

Problem is, I need a card for my HTPC build, and I don't know when I can my 1070 back. Although I favor nVidia, I'm looking for something that has the best price-performance ratio. I can get an RX 480 for $230, but I'm wary about using AMD when I'm already in bed with nVidia.

Opinions?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jn9HRG
Rate my build, /g/.

>>57503613
>HTPC
If you're not gaming you don't even need dedicated graphics

>>57503616
Graphics card choice sucks, get a 1070 or wait for the soon to arrive 1080Ti. You better have a nice monitor to go with either of those though

>>57503658
*70 cards are always gimped.

>>57503681
>not buying the slightly cut down, better price/perf chip
It's like you're ok with being part of the goyim

>>57503708
>buying the poorfag meme card

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For a retard
how hard is building a PC, the actual building parts, it looks so intimidating

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>>57503715
>implying the 1070 is a memecard
>implying a $400 card is for poorfags
Got news for you m8, the 1080 is the memecard

>>57503829
If it's a meme card then why does everyone outside of /g/eddit poorfags like it?
>>57503800
It's literally Legos. Go watch some build videos on YouTube if you really need help.

>>57503937
It's a meme because retards who don't understand anything except marketing and want "the best" available hardware buy it just to say they got it.

Like I said, 1070 or 1080Ti. Nothing wrong with spending money, but the difference between 1070 and 1080 is 20%. Difference between the 1070 and 1080Ti will be about 50%. 1080Ti is the cut down TitanX(P)

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kVCQGf

For 1080p gaming, r8

Besides performance, is there any reason to use one brand of card over another?

Does choosing AMD entitle any benefits over nVidia?

consumerism is my favorite meme

I get to reap barely used hardware from retards

>>57504042
AMD has the consoles. Both NVIDIA and AMD have mixed performance on modern titles. Best price/perf card out right now is the 4GB 470

>>57504042
>is there any reason to use one brand of card over another
Quality and cooling system. Zotac, PNY, and Palit make the best nvidia cards.

>Does choosing amd entitle any benefits over nvidia?
You'll be popular on /g/.

>>57504042
>is there any reason to use one brand of card over another?
Cooling, which you should replace anyhow.
aka no

>Does choosing AMD entitle any benefits over nVidia?
Better price for similar performance mostly, physx a meme

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>>57504114
>>57504186

>>57504077
Surely it would be the 4GB 480, which is only £20 more on Amazon for Irish/UK customers. the 8GB 480, in comparison is an extra £50. Of course, it depends where you live.

>>57504042
Not really unless you want Nvidia's Shadowplay. Both have pretty similar features nowadays besides Physx which no games use anymore. If you want to game in Linux Nvidia's proprietary drivers are great, for AMD you have to use the open-source ones.(Most games don't even provide support for AMD cards in Linux so it's a gamble whether it will work or not.) In Windows it really doesn't matter what you buy unless you're a GPU warrior on 4chan.

>>57503285
>>57503313

Will be drawing, animating, encoding, shit like that.

I don't know how to fit a gtx 1070 in there without going way over the 1000 budget, because I don't want to skimp out on a bunch of shit, besides, the 6700k will last me a while, and I can always upgrade in 3-4 years.... Unless im fucking up.

>>57480948
Regarding Black Friday/Cyber Monday, what components are NOT worth waiting for, as in buying them today?

I'm thinking CPU and maybe mobo? I can't see those prices drop too much.

Also while I want a medium tier GPU I don't want AMD cards, is that irrational or ? I've never had a problem with nVidia and hear they work better when working with *nix (I do some work in VMWare).

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What does /pcbg/ think about republic of gaymers?
I have my eyes on a motherboard, rog maximus viii impact for the dumb fact it has a dedicated dac

I know is a dumb reason.

>>57504684
Any motherboard has a dedicated DAC you scrub, and besides that the point is to move DACs away from the mobo
Buying expensive mobos is retarded. Doesn't matter the brand

>>57504684
>inbuilt dac
but why

Thoughts on this build? I'm thinking of building it. http://pcgamehaven.com/best-gaming-pc-build-under-600/
or should i build something else? Budget is around that.

>>57502215
(you) forgot to have an HPC and a raid controller. .

>>57502789
USB speed only affects how quickly you can install Linux/live boot.

>>57503800
https://www.youtube.com/user/pcpartpicker
See for yourself mate.

>>57504028
Overkill. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqGF4C
I can't believe you wanted to spend 350 on that monitor. Did you have one already or something?

The thumbscrews on the expansion slots of my case are on way beyond too tight. I can't loosen them even a bit even by using a screwdriver. What can I do without damaging them?

>>57504144
>Higher price for lower performance mostly.
FTFY

>>57505417
simply epic

>>57505433
OK shill

>>57505286
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqGF4C
Actually that's not how much I would spend on the monitor, I can get it for 280. It's 144hz with gsync which may or may not be a meme. There's a cheaper version with 144hz and no gsync but has a glossy finish which I can't stand.

Also if I'm getting a Z170 board, shouldn't I just get a K cpu for overclocking? Otherwise I could go lower than a Z170, but the K cpu is only like $45 more.

>>57505417
>>57505433
>>57505449
brand/company dicksuckers are the literal worst shit

kill yourselves

>>57505458
Benchmarks don't lie, shill.

>>57504261
Aftermarket 4GB 470s are selling for 160USD, aftermarket 4GB 480s are 230USD last time I checked. There is about a 10-15% perf difference between cards.

>>57505197
Any of these is better
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=ZhnQ7P
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=V9hMpg
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=yzYrHx

>>57505305
Post pic, also lefty loosey, righty tighty

>>57505488
There's nothing to show I think. Just a set of 8 thumbscrews ensuring there's no wiggle room that won't budge.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7pjMwV

ye?

new Define C case looks great.

>>57505456
>Also if I'm getting a Z170 board, shouldn't I just get a K cpu for overclocking?
Yea, but I wouldn't try to OC without a better cooler. So you'd be spending more for that and the CPU.

What I liked about that Z170 mobo were the various video output ports, and they generally have nicer features and build quality. How many PCI slots you need or want is up to you, but for 1080p gaming I can't envision really needing more than 1 (GPU).

I did change this to an H170, but the money saved isn't much.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vj8c4C

Decide for yourself if 144 Hz is a meme.
https://frames-per-second.appspot.com/
http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates

Gsync is more about reducing tearing. I think. I honestly haven't researched that much because shit keeps changing (gsync, vsync, freesync, different names for AMD cards too)

>>57505721
>What I liked about that Z170 mobo were the various video output ports
what

if you're using a GPU, you don't use them

1060 or 470 card?

>>57505950
Depends on pricing:
1060 if you can get it for under $205
470 otherwise

>>57506036
Good deal? Comes with $10 rebate
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KMVHB6M/ref=twister_B01KJGWHIM

>>57505950
4GB 470, aftermarket. If you're in the USA

>>57505940
Not him, but you might want to use integrated graphics if you RMA or sell your graphics card or to troubleshoot

In that case though you just need whatever connection your monitor has

I'd 1866Mhz too old/slow? Some dude is selling his rig. It's a good deal but I wonder if the ram is too old

>>57506166
Personally I'd rather have the msi gaming x Rx 480 for $10 more. Also has a rebate. The 3gb version of the 1060 just doesn't feel right to me. It's got enough gpu power to run things just fine, but that vram will make a difference in a year in my opinion. I just really love the gaming x lineup from this generation though. But really between those two just pick whether you like amd or nvidia more, and performance will be about the same.

Guys don't forget to install Solus.

>>57506390
*Is
Sorry. And it is on a H97n mobo. Is that also old?

Outside of maybe monitors and other peripherals, is it worth waiting for holiday sales to buy PC components? I can't imagine video cards, processors, PSUs, etc. going on sale for much.

>>57506446
Holiday seasons are a meme. Shit doesn't get a sale for less than in usual sales (in fact, the prices, when they're reduced at all, tend to be less reduced than usual because lolconsumerismday)

>>57506446
ssd's generally go on sale. There's a $395 1070 on newegg atm. Sooometimes you get motherboard deals.

>>57505940
They're nice for troubleshooting, rma a dead GPU, and potentially initial setup.

>>57506390
>>57506444
it's DDR3, one generation behind.

Just tell me what the CPU/GPU on the rig is + the price he's selling it for.

I'll tell you whether it's a good idea or not.

>>57506783
Well this is it. Note that it is in Australian dollarydoos

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gaming-PC-Mini-ITX-i5-4960-H97N-Wifi-16gb-ram-Rx-470-480gb-ssd-Win-10-/112202876321?hash=item1a1fd005a1:g:bloAAOSwXeJYJ~Ae

My aussie friend is building a new PC.

Will Newegg have black friday deals available to him as well or US only?

Case: nzxt s340
Gpu: evga gtx 960 4gb
Psu: evga bronze 700w
Cpu: i5 6600k
Mobo: MSI krait z97s
Price range: $500-$600

Planning on getting the evga from their b stock

Any suggestions though?

>>57506783
>>57506912
I mean, if I bought an i5 6500 and an rx 470, with just a regular budget HDD, case, mobo, and all the rest it would be over $900 AUD. This used build has a 480GB SSD, includes Windows 10, and reasonably good quality parts.

Only problem is, I was only originally planning for a budget i3 and a 1050 haha. But that would be around 800-850 (with windows 10).

Case is good
-get a 1050ti instead of the 960. Cheaper but same performance, and less power draw too.
-power supply is comically overkill. Get a nice seasonic 520 watt or something.
-the 6600k does not work in a z97. you need a z170. Regardless, for your budget range, i say get an i5-6500 instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16824160274

So the 24" version is $290 but the 27" is $220, am I missing something here or is that just a really good price for what you get?

>>57507109
meant for >>57506982

>>57506912
buy it dude. Just make sure nothing is broken. That's going to be a great pc. Also make sure to wipe the hard drives.

>>57506254
>In that case though you just need whatever connection your monitor has
or a $5 adaptor

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>>57507192
Get 3000 Mhz speed RAM

>>57507192
get a better PSU. Go for Gold+

>>57507192
get a evga 650 watt GQ for the same price, that has fantastic reviews. CX power supplies are failure prone. You do not need 750 watts I promise you. The ram seems a bit pricey, but I think the whole market is like that right now. It might even be worth waiting a week or two on the ram.

>>57507109
Would the 6500 work with the z97? And so far I've heard bad things about the 1050.

r8 fuccbois
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzR3HN

>>57507332
the motherboard socket does not accept skylake. You need a haswell (4xxx) cpu.

>>57507332
>Would the 6500 work with the z97
Watcha doin goy?

>>57507355
jesus christ that's bad. Where do I start?
-Don't water cool a cpu that doesn't overclock. get a chintzy little $9 heatsink if the stock intel one is too loud for you.
-You are spending a whopping seventy five dollars on fans, when this case already comes with 3 pretty decent fans.
-I don't know about that unit specifically, but I don't trust the lower end corsair power supplies. If you're dead set on corsair (yes, I see the theme), get an RM unit.
-The speakers look retardedly expensive, and you are already dropping $75 on a headset.
-the msi gaming x 1070 is cheaper and will run 99% as fast, will be easier to set up, and will look better in your case.

>>57507355

You are like of little baby.
Watch this

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zpnvbj

Tip-I use the Keyboard, headset and mouse.

All have brought me great joy.

Also, see if you can ebay some used Dell Studio 540 Speakers, those things work out really well.

>>57480948
Why should I get the 8gb RX 480 instead of the 4gb RX 480?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bzLTPs
please rate

>>57507746
More texture memory

For example, running skyrim with sooper high detail texture mods, and a shitton of them.

>>57507863
meme/10

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>>57507222
>>57507209
>>57507192
>>57507246
How's this look?

Also are there any black friday/cyber monday newegg deals for an aussie?

Do I want a k cpu version if I'm not overclocking?

>>57508279
...
Way I see it, if you're upgrading, and for the increased base clock speed of the k version.

>>57508293
What kind of base clock speed increase we talking from a i5-6600 vs a k?