/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Election Aftermath Edition

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>>57447999
PRAISE HIM
Also, check my build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wM8YLD

>>57448014
I don't....
what?

>>57448046
16 shitposting VMs, 4 different VPN subscriptions, 20 4chan passes

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>>57447999
Maga.

>>57448066
I don't think you will need to shitpost that much considering he pretty much won.

>>57448079
Who said I was on Trump's side. We gorilla warfare now.

>>57448091
Um harambe died my nerd virgin friend

>>57447999
Checked
>>57448014
Kek

Is it retarded to buy an rx 480 if the 1060 is cheaper?

Do you guys have some basic do's and dont's for a first time builder?

>>57448379
How much cheaper?

>>57448457
If you're ultrapoorfag 9000,
DO
Buy a prebuilt.
DON'T
Build your own PC.

If you want to buy a PSU,
DO
Get SeaSonic as first choice, a PSU from a reputable brand with better prices and specs second choice.
DON'T
Buy cheap no-name garbage.

If you want to futureproof your build,
DO
Splurge on a case - they aren't going to get outdated anytime soon.
DON'T
Get an Intel socket and expect it to last more than two generations, or get an Nvidia GPU - those fuckers age quick.

If you have a single 1080p/1200p(16:10 master race) or one or more lower resolution monitors, and don't plan to have any additions or do any upgrades in the near future,
DO
Get a card that will still hit 60 Hz minimum frame rates in games for your monitor(s).
DON'T
Buy the latest and greatest video card - by the time you add monitors or upgrade your monitor(s), a new card will have come out with the same performance as the previous greatest for half the price and with the current greatest having double the performance as the previous greatest for the same price.

If you want a PC relatively soon,
DO
Get all the parts in your build as soon as possible.
DON'T
Wait - that's another eighteen months with what you have now, and prices aren't going to suddenly go down drastically any time soon.

>>57448457
Don't forget standoffs and the I/O shield first. Do make sure sure cables (and the plugs) will fit before you start screwing anything down. Do read the manual when putting the individual front I/O wires in.
Don't put things in slots that they won't fit in.
It's not hard

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>>57448646
#cheapcasesmatter
$30 after rebate, good quality, good cooling, decent looking, good size

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TBPQGf

Decided to try out Intel since my amd cpu and ram kicked the bucket.
I like to think it's pretty comfy. :3

>>57448844
>I like to think it's pretty comfy. :3
For such an autist like you i bet the straightjacket they put on you is pretty comfy, too.

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Looking to upgrade this, because I got a 4k monitor as a gift. Getting a 1080, and DDR4 ram while I'm at it. This wasn't originally mine, and obviously I barely have any clue what I'm doing since I'm asking, but how are the motherboard and CPU? Can I get away with not having to worry about upgrading those?

>>57448844
>6320
>watercooling on an i3

>>57449362
Ddr4 is only supported by x99 and skylake motherboards. You would have to upgrade your cpu and motherboard if you want ddr4. You would be fine with only a new video card.

>>57448457
Experience with a pre-built so you know your way around a pc before building your own one is always prefered. However if you buy a pre-built and plan on upgrading/switching components/modding the case later, never buy a Dell's. Their PCs are ridden with proprietary shits (case fan use 5 pins connector, short I/O wires, etc).
If you are still building a pc without much knowledge beforehand, never go for overclocking right away. Those OCing PCs require custom parts, and some parts will get in the way of other parts if you are clueless while picking parts. the less custom/after market parts you buy the less headache you will have when assembling your pc

just my 2 cents

Guys I would like to get a 1440p 144hz screen.Which one is better?Asus or Acer?

Guys, I want to build a sleeper PC in a vintage beige case. Anyone know of any vendors online that still carry some cases? Or am I doomed to scavenge Craigslist?

>>57450110
Provide a sample picture m8

>>57450110
There are no new beige cases anymore.

>>57447993
>your country if outside of the USA
why?
rate my desktop
>H97-D3H gigabyte motherboard
>8GB G.skill RAM
>Core i5 4460
>Gainward GTX 1060
>kingston SSDNOW v300 240GB
>WD HDD 1TB
>purposes : gaming (windows7) and dual boot with linux because I just like linux
>country is israel , still asking myself why is that information needed..

>>57449362
Definitely wait for the 1080Ti for 4K. It's only two months away

You can't use DDR4, but you're fine with your current CPU

>>57448844
Horribly retarded build.

Get the i5 6600K if you're going to water cool and have a Z170 board
Get 3000MHz RAM
Fury X is only for high res screens. Not made for 1080p

>>57450350
Why? To find out of you're a goddamn jew. Actually you're pretty stupid because this is a build thread, not a rate thread, which should clue you in on why country of origin can be important

>>57450539
>>57447993
> rate other anons'
you're an idiot

>>57450585
I am OP retard. Learn context. This thread is for people WHO ARE BUILDING PCs. You're looking for a seccy or battlestation thread

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GxRF4C
Should I get a 1080 if I want to do 1440p/144hz?

>>57450601
>post your component list
check
>rate other anons'
your go OP
'cmon faggot rate my goddamn PC , you started this thread for this no?

I'm planning on buying a GTX 1060 for 1080p gaming at 60Hz
I'm wondering if I should get the 3gb or 6gb model. There's a sale on the 3gb model for 200€ when normally it's around 250€ and the 6gb model is around 300€ (located in Finland)

I've understood that in current titles the difference in performance is very minor, but how future proof is the 3gb model?

>>57450651
If you're thinking about building that PC, don't. Get a Skylake CPU (eg i5 6500) with DDR4

Check suggested builds in OP

>>57450639
1070 or wait for 1080Ti in Jan

>>57450860
3GB is fine, you probably won't have nice texture options, but compared to consoles you will have enough VRAM

>>57450945
I don't really care about how it compares to consoles, what I care about is how long am I able to crank up the settings @1080p if I do choose the 3GB model.

Perhaps having peace of mind regarding the future proofness of my computer might be worth the extra 100€

>>57451155
Games are made for consoles first, which is of course why their specs matter, retard.

Also you can't future proof your graphics card (retard). 3GB will be fine as long as games are still made for the PS4 or PS4 Pro

>>57448646
like 20 euros

GTX 1070 or 1080 for 1440p?

>>57451776
1070 is enough but don't expect stellar performance for all AAA titles.

how much faster is an rx 480 from an gtx 760

>>57451991
2x, plus at least twice the VRAM

>>57451991
twice as fast

>>57452183

what amd cpu/apu can the rx 480 crossfire with?

>>57452230
Don't multiGPU, it sucks. 480 is plenty for 1080p. You can run CF on an i5 6500 if you want

>>57452381
Get 3000MHz RAM
2TB HGST HDD
GTX 1070 or wait for the 1080Ti

You'll need a nice monitor to go along with either of those, otherwise just get a 1060

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/krazypudding/saved/BrmgsY

This is my first crack at putting a build together. I tried to stick with logical increments and learn as much as I could but I'm bound to fuck something up on it so thanks for taking a look

I want a great machine for gaming, but I also need good processing power for audio production purposes, so I included an i7. I'm fine in the budget, I just want to clarify that the build makes sense and also to get some feedback on some better choices that I could make from those more experienced builders.

>>57452408
Makes sense, thanks for the input

>>57452440
Mobo is good but a gaymen meme. Get 3000 RAM. Don't get an EVGA card, they are literally a house fire. Your case is absolute meme garbage. 850W is a complete overkill unless you want to SLI two 1080's in the future and OC.

>>57452693
You could SLI and overclock two Titan XPs AND have enough power for CPU and everything with 850w

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I got my 1050Ti today and popped it into my computer. When I boot my PC, there's no signal. I can here the card's fan running, but I cant figure out how to get the monitor working again.

>>57453098
Did you plug the monitor into the graphics card port?

>>57453132
yeah

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125869

About to grab this - I want a 1080 and considering last year, this might be the best chance I get to get a good sale for a new GPU.

Thoughts? Have you guys seen a better one elsewhere?

6700 or 6700k?

Is it worth getting the K version?

Yeah, worth it to grab the K but only if you get an HSF, since with proper cooling you can achieve pretty much the same lifespan but a faster speed on a card.

>>57453207
Looks good, I have a gigabyte 1070 ($400) and no problems
>>57453214
Yes it's free performance you can use in a few years when your CPU starts aging. The difference is only like $15 right?

>>57453214
But like he said, k versions dont come with their own CPU cooler

>>57453260
What?
My 2500k came with a stock cooler, which I'm still using.

>>57453267
Skylake K processors don't come with stock coolers.

>>57453294
Oh. How come?

>>57453304
K means you are overclocking, which means you are assumed to be a power user, which means you're going to want control over your HSF. Use your head, dude.

Made some last finishing touches:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tNHqhq

Does this look good?

Budget is 1000 dollars, will mainly use it for drawing, rendering, encoding, and some gaming here and there.

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>>57453586
Im so dumb, forgot pic for convenience

>>57453592
>rx 480 in a 1000 dollar build
Go for a gtx 1070 or wait for the 490.

>>57453634
I, personally, cant seem to manage a fit with a 6700k + 1070 under 1000 build without being a cheapskate on some of the parts.

When should I wait to get good deals on CPUs and GPUs? I've heard that cyber monday would be good, but what kind of discounts can I expect?

I've got to move my CPU and its stock heat sink onto a new motherboard. I've ordered some thermal compound, but what should I use to remove the pre-applied compound? Isopropyl alcohol that's like 90% alcohol, right? Can you find that in a drug store or something?

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So I've settled on a build - can I get some opinions? Pic related is my current build

i7 6700k
RAIJINTEK Aidos cooler
Asus Z170-P
Asus GTX 1060 6gb
32 gb 2133mhz

Totals to £800 (approx. $1000)

>>57454181
if you want an i7 just get the 3770K for your current mobo

If you get the new platform with a Z170 get 3000MHz RAM

>>57454266

How does 3000mhz help? I did a little research and ram speed seems to be inconsequential.

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>>57454299
eurogamer's i5 6500 review

>>57454342
I see

I need a cheap SSD for an office computer. 60-120 GB. Recommendations?

What kind of monitor should I buy if I plan to buy a 1070?

What's the cheapest possible build without bottlenecking a 1070?

>>57451564
No.

>>57454619
Any build with any new Intel CPU or old i-core/Xeon CPU, any build with performance on par with a FX-6300, any build with good single-core performance and multi-core performance.

Honestly, it really just depends on the game. If you're playing an unoptimized piece of garbage, you're going to need a better CPU, but for the most part, the above criteria is enough.

i just built my new pc with an asus z170 pro gaming mother broad and a define s case. there's a light static in my headphones plugged into the front audio jack whenever i move my mouse. does anyone know any fixes for this?

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/csZWf8

Can some people give me feedback on this build please, thanks

What are the best places to get windows 7 from?

>>57452693
What makes the mobo a gaymen meme? I'm actually trying to learn something. Could I get some good case recommendations? Or at least some criteria I can look for to determine what's good?

>>57455152
>what makes the mobo a gaming meme?
Gaming in the title, LEDs that aren't POST etc

>could I get some good case recommendations
Anything by Fractal Design and Phanteks

This build is much better for one $100 less.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FgFCD8

>>57454573
I just got a memey ROG swift, 1440p and 144hz, with g sync helping for all fps levels

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Just got my computer put together, but I can't get it to recognize my usb and wireless usb keyboards and mice. I have [pic related], but only one for a mouse, as the BIOS doesn't seem to respond to any keyboard I use.

Do I have to go out and buy an old p/s2 keyboard, or am I missing something?

As a related question, the new motherboard might just need its drivers installed, but the driver came in a CD, and I don't have any drives connected to the mobo. It has plenty of SATA ports, but the DVD/CD drives I tore out of my old computer only have IDE ports. Do I really need to connect a newer SATA drive to download the drivers, or can I burn the driver CD on another computer to an external HDD and boot from that via USB?

>>57450110
Go to a PC parts store or electronics recycling center. They typically have tons of peripherals, cases, and random shit for cheap. Unfortunately, it's 2016, so beige cases are probably confined to the museums by this point.

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First time builder, was it a mistake to have chosen a GPU first and made a build around it?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vgxTPs
I'd like to know if it's absolutely retarded or not.
It's purpose is vidja and vidja alone.

>>57456021
yes

>>57456035
So it's unsalvageable?

>>57456021
Shoulda read the sticky.

I did the same thing too, woulda had a Z170 Mobo right now instead of a H110, but whatevs.

Anyway-
>Overclockable reasonably priced CPU
>Good Cooler
>B150 Non-CPU-Overclocking Motherboard
That's not gonna work out.
>DDR3 RAM
DEF not gonna work out, something with skylake CPU's not liking DDR3 or something.
>750 EVO SSD and 1TB HDD.
>Gaming
Eh, okay choices.
Woulda gone with 500 Gig Samsung 850 EVO SSD instead.
>1070
At least it's a 6600K you paired it with.
>Fractal Design
Good deal, but other choices exist as well.
>450w Power Supply
>80+ Bronze

Okay, just because PCPartPicker shows 374 watts overall, doesn't mean it's under 450w.

Double it, then get a PSU that can handle it near or above the doubled number.
650 watt 80+ gold would be a good choice here.

>>57456119
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V3JBTH
And since you never stated a budget, I went with this.

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>>57456151
Damn dude, thanks. I chose the HDD and SSD combo so I can have the windows installation on something speedy, while all the media and shit is dumped on the HDD. But while my budget isn't infinite I appreciate the price you've given and it's definitely doable for me.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jYZWf8
How does my build look? I want to stay as close to $1k as I can.

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I currently have two SATA 6-pin outlets open on my PSU, and my 1070 takes one 8pin connector to power it.

what adapters do I need to make this happen?

(am about to buy two 6-pin male to 6-pin male and connect them to the dual 6-pin female to 8 pin male that the 1070 comes with, but not sure that will be okay)

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Just bought a GTX 1060 3gb lads, It's a better upgrade than the 760 I have currently, Now i can run newer games much better without fucking crashing.

Would you recommend this PSU?

SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/nB3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze

Should I upgrade to Pascal now or wait for Volta?

>>57456301
Thanks for sharing

>>57456301
Why does that box have "dual" on it?


Also, is a 1060 with one fan okay or will the temps get too high?

>>57456412
Upgrade now; waitcucks are stupid.

Any recommendations for a cooler for i5-2500?

My old stock cooler served me well until now when it started to run too hot.

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Dear /g/, what is in most need of upgrade currently?
I'll upgrade it after upgrading my old ass non-hdmi monitor

Ordered an upgrade package and now I'm dreading the arrival because it'll be work to install. I'm getting too old for this shit.

>>57456566
GPU.

>>57456582
What next after GPU? I only play Civ 6 at the moment so it's not that high a priority.
Thanks m8

>>57456622
470 4GB/1060 3GB.

Whichever suits you most.

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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tbWm3F

Is there anything super wrong with this? I'm kinda new to this entire thing

consolefag here looking to finally move to PC, this is what I have found but I'm not sure if it's what I need.

My plan is to (at least) play a game like overwatch at a level that's not worse than my console.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FXL97h

Is it too much? should I downgrade anything?

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Any way I can improve this for relatively cheap?

Built this about a year ago. Want to try to maintain a stable 60 fps in high stress situations in games if I can.

>>57456993
You don't really need a Z170 board if you're not overclocking, a H170 board may be a better option. Although it depends on how prices work out, and if you can find a H170 board with the features you want.

You're also missing RAM and a HDD. May be worth getting a bigger SSD, too, 120GB goes faster than you think, even if it's just an OS + applications drive.

>>57457007
Get a new GPU. 480 or a 1060 probably, if you want to stay on the cheaper side of things. The 3570K probably won't bottleneck you too much, might be worth getting a good cooler on it and overclocking though.

>>57457078
thanks. I'm tearing apart my old PC, so I'll have the ram and a HDD already.

>>57457148
Are you sure your old ram is DDR4? If it's DDR3 it won't fit, the slot is different.

>>57456995
anyone?

>>57457167
It looks pretty serviceable to me, should be able to play most games that are out at the moment without a ton of trouble. You could probably go with a H170 motherboard if you don't plan to overclock, that may bring the cost down a little, but not massively.

I'm gonna spend 1400 gbp on a beef rig come black friday, is this wise or should I wait?

My current rig is pretty old now. 3.2ghz i7, 560.

My interests are:
Competitive shootan (so going for the 144hz meme, I know that's not realistic at max settings even on the newest cards but for shit I take seriously I turn all the distracting effects and post processing off)
Heavily modded games, like enthusiast level FO New Vegas modding to make it like a milsim survival experience.
3D modelling as a hobby.

Anyone got any personal guidelines or suggestions?

Is it worth buying water cooling?
Is it safe to use velcro wire tidies in the case when building or can this cause static build up?
My processor will be an i7 and someone was ranting at me that I should get good cooling if I'm gonna blow 300 on the cpu alone.

>>57453098
If it's a BenQ, it's a common problem. Try plugging it into VGA or HDMI, then to display port after it detects it.

>>57457196
>Is it worth buying water cooling?
If you do a custom loop, sure. It's a LOT of work though, arguably too much for the reward. AIO coolers can't really outperform the bigger air coolers though.
>Is it safe to use velcro wire tidies in the case when building or can this cause static build up?
Safe and incredibly common. Nothing should be generating much static if they're secured well, and they'll likely be behind the motherboard tray, so they won't be touching anything.
>My processor will be an i7 and someone was ranting at me that I should get good cooling if I'm gonna blow 300 on the cpu alone.
Probably worth at least spending 30 bucks on a half decent cooler, the stock will perform badly. Do you need an i7 though? Most people really don't.

>>57456995

Unless you‘re gonna overclock, get a H170 or B150 mobo.

Get a OEM 1060 like msi or gigabyte, founders edition cards are loud and hot, and you‘re also a full atx tower case.

>>57457467
but the H170 is more expensive than the z170

I want to save money...

>>57457082
I was told the card is really outdated. Mostly just want to play MMOs and a couple fast paced games at 60 without chugging on high.

Thanks for the help, by the way.

>>57457610
If you're only playing at 1080p, then a 480 or a 1060 will easily get you that kind of performance. You could even go lower if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it, they're already pretty cheap cards.

>>57457593
Well that's kind of weird, the H170 is meant to be cheaper.

>>57457643
I'll probably stick to the 1060, I guess.

As long as it stays cool, it's safe to overclock correct?

>>57457719
Yeah, just make sure you know what you're doing, research is important if you're new to overclocking.

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>>57457728
I've noticed there's a couple brands tied to the GPU itself. It's probably a dumb question, but that shouldn't have an impact right? I've read sometimes it affects how well it overclocks but I wouldn't say I'm 100% on it.

Last thing as far as I know, if I really wanted to push it to the limit where would I look towards for more recent stuff

>>57457780
Basically the difference is the cooler on the card, and the level to which the card is factory overclocked. They're pretty much all at least decent, and there's not much good reason to buy the particularly expensive ones, but it's worth reading reviews before you commit, just to make sure there's no weird issues.

>>57457610
Rx 480 and gtx 1060 are not outdated lol, he probly means gtx 480, which is fairly outdated

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Are there any lcd/led monitors with speakers that don't suck?

I'm thinking about building a mini ITX pc to take to work to replace my aging laptop, so the fewer parts I'd have to lug around the better

>>57456993
I wear contacts, and that gif makes my eyes hurt...

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>new graphics card comes in
>when I install it, no display on monitor
>put my old one back in and install newest drivers
>put new one in, still no display
>put old one back in, boot the BIOS
>swap to integrated graphics
>reboot
>nothing displays now, no matter what card or port
what the fuck do I do here?

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>>57458184
Reset CMOS?
See if that'll get your old card working, then RMA new card.

>>57457946
>what are headphones

>>57458433
I suppose that'll have to be my option if I can't find something decent, but then it'd be no different than carrying separate speakers.

My PC's motherboard just died, and with it, my i7 950 is useless too since the socket is outdated.

My graphics is an R9 270X. For general gaming, what price range / performance range of CPU should I be looking at? I don't want something that massively outstrips my graphics card, for example. Any rough ballpark is fine!

>>57458514
Don't forget, you'll probably need a new cpu cooler if you change sockets.

>>57458601
Yep, if I get a retail one though, it comes with a stock one right? That should be fine, I'm not planning on doing any overclocking.

Is it okay to buy used power supplies?

>>57458184
>put my old one back in and install newest drivers
Installing drivers before putting card in? wat.

Make sure bios ain't stuck itself of using integrated gpu too if you have one.

>>57458640
afaik, all new cpus come with a stock cooler.

>>57458771
Okay, sweet.

Any idea about what I should be looking for, though?

>>57458659
Should be fine as long as it's a decent brand/rating and not full of cockroaches...
The only psu I've ever had fail came from my local g̶a̶r̶b̶a̶g̶e̶ ̶d̶u̶m̶p̶ computer store. Those assholes sold me some overpriced generic piece of shit that blew sparks and flames out the back after about 3 months.

>>57458784
Hoho:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2098924/cpu-match-270x.html

>>57458800
Oh neat! Sorry, I thought it was a bit too specific so I didn't google.

>>57458794
Thanks

>>57458640
Retail = comes with cooler
OEM = doesn't come with cooler

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>>57458837
That's why we're here, to learn.

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Opinions on this build?

Why is the rx 480 gtr so good?

>>57459013
>Arctic Alpine 11Pro
Enjoy your house fire.

>>57455251
Thanks anon, solid advice

I'm thinking of getting a swiftech h240-x2 for my 4690k so i can have peace of mund going past my current oc of 4ghz under a 212 evo. But is it overkill for haslel? i mean i could get it for the price of them corsair and nzxt aios and it is expandable to a full loop later on if i read correctly and i heard swiftech was good stuff, but i still have a feeling that it would be a horrible idea for some reason...

>>57459320
It's got more leaks than the DNC

>>57459013
>300 dollar cpu
>cheaping out on the gpu

But why

>>57459761

I don't really play games... Just need a reasonable (nvidia) GPU with good Vram, the price of 1070 is substantially higher

>>57459175

Switched to Zalman CNPS5X

Quick question. Wanting to build a desktop, don't have any parts yet.

Is it worth it to wait for black friday / cyber monday?

>>57453939
Yes. Most pharmacies, drug stores, and supermarkets should have at least 70%+ Isopropyl alcohol in stock. It shouldn't be too big of a problem to find, but try to get 90% or above.

When you get it, just put some on a paper towel and rub the old compound away. Make sure the surface is perfectly clean and dry before applying the new thermal paste.

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Thoughts on this shitty $150 AM1 file server? I already have disks and memery.
It's basically just going to run a rsync daemon for a few devices until it dies or catches fire.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZGWKcc

>>57455983
Before you go out an buy anything, if you have an internet connection, just try and get the drivers for your motherboard from the manufacturers website.

Since you might not be able to type anything without a keyboard, try using another computer (if you have one or have access to one, that is) to download the drivers and then put them on a USB drive to install them in your current build.

As a side note, some p/s2 keyboards don't always like being connected through USB.

Best of luck my friend.

>>57456622
You can go for a bit more RAM if you want, but that depends on how you use your PC, so it's not really a necessity.

If you want to speed it up a bit, get an SSD and put Windows on it.

You're fine otherwise.

Should I use RAID if I can afford it?

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/g/ pls dont meme me

I won 20k eur by betting on Trump to win, gonna use it to build a gaymen desktop, this includes keyboard and mouse, monitor and other peripherals.

Do you guys have any advice for me?

4096x2160 or 2560x1440?

GPU/CPU advice?

16 or 4GB ram?

Can I get the "latest and greatest" with my budget?

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>>57460765
>dont meme me
>20k gaymen pc

dont fall for that meme. buy a thinkpad t420 with a 9-cell battery. comfy as fuck, no winschwitz, cum-breath X and not being a consumer drone.

>>57460765
>20k
Oka-
>€
kek

>>57460814
I have a x220 already desu

also I meant 2k eur, fuck

>>57460765
>I won 20k eur by betting on Trump to win
Small time
I made just as much during the Wall Street and European market panic that ensued. Still making profits by buying low and shorting sandnigger money.

>>57460948
It was only 2k, sorry

And yes I'm smalltime but I made some shorting the dollar as well.

also >>>/biz/

>>57458512
You can't fit speakers in your pocket anon

budget is $800 what parts should i get?

I was looking to buy a budget 1080p gaymen PC, I've been looking at the used market.

Saw some people recommending old Xeons like the X5460 and E5640, I reckon I can get them for less then 50€, which one is better?

Also what graphics card do you recommend for like 100€ tops used?

>>57460742
Forgot the link to my build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/krJNvV

>>57460981
Shorting the dollar won't get you anywhere. You need to play the long game, and right now the Saudi Riyadh is ripe for the shorting. Trust me, short the Riyadh for the next two-three years. The House of Saud is about to fall.

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r8 please

Whats the best bang for buck z170 mobo?

>>57461302
>intel ssd
why?

>>57461414
I was told they were good, did I get memed?

What would you suggest?

>>57461492
It's probably overpriced. I'd just get the fastest pci-e ssd with good reviews.

Thinking about grabbing one of MSI's armor 1080s. I've read that the armor series has trouble cooling though. Is that true?

>>57461717
MSI Armor is a shitty meme for M U H A E S T H E T I C S black/white builds.
Get Zotac AMP, Palit Jetstream, Asus Strix or PNY.

>>57462194
I guess brand loyalty is for suckers, but seeing as my israel inside and my MSI card are the only parts of my PC that have never let me down I was sort of angling for them even before the black november deal on newegg.

I'll look into them, I hear nothing but good things about Asus cards.

>>57462228
Asus ROG Strix whatever are good cards, but they are overpriced and i heard they have shitty customer service.

How should I search for Windows keygen sites/programs? Normally I'd have more intuition for something like this, but I don't know if there are any keygens that are worth trusting. Not asking for links, just tips.

>>57462443
Kinguin
G2A.
Etc.

Suggestions for a cooler that can push a 4690k to 4.5GHz+? I was eyeing the be quiet silent loop 2 since the temps look good, the acoustics are good too and most importantly it looks sexy af. And i am looking at a CLC since i'm thinking about downsizing from ATX so a bigass heatsink might prove problematic, though i am still open to suggestions. Aesthetics are a big plus.

>>57462443
Microsoft Toolkit from extratorrent

Msi krait 3x or asus z170-A

Combined with a 6600k in a s340 elite.

>>57461492
Samsung 950 pro
Faster than a 750 PCIe SSD and doesn't eat up one t your PCIe lanes
The 750 is absurdly overpriced, especially when many M2 drives are faster and cheaper

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I RESET MY BIOS TO DEFAULT SETTINGS TO SEE IF IT WOULD FIX MY GRAPHICS CARD NOT BEING DETECTED AND NOW I BLUE SCREEN EVERY TIME I BOOT MY COMPUTER

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO

>>57463391
flash your bios to the newest update.

You'll need a new PC though.

>>57463241
Actually it does eat up 4 PCIe lanes because it is PCIe data but it doesn't take up a PCIe slot though

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What is this little tab in front of the PS/2 port on my motherboard for? It's making it difficult to line the mobo up with the io shield.

>>57461030
Get a 250GB SSD
Use RAID0

>>57463391
Seems like a driver problem.. get rid of all but necessary components (eg all but one stick of RAM)

>>57462962
Halp pls

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is the maximus viii hero really a good motherboard?

>>57464244
It's an expensive motherboards that's for sure
It's probably good, but so are many other much cheaper ones, that doesn't really offer much over the competition

It's about time i pick up a second SSD for my desktop. Have a 120GB sandisk atm.

Whats the best 200+ GB SSD right now, if price isnt an issue?

>>57464295
If price is an issue is get an OCZ drive, they're toshiba now but they're good and cheap.
More expensive id say I like my Intel 730, it was on sale a few Black Fridays ago and it's served me well, just about as fast as my 600p M2 drive (other than sequential reads)
I would feel totally comfortable putting two 730s in raid 0 without worrying about random failures though, they're overbuilt with a lot of failsafes, capacitors and one of the better SSD controller chips

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>>57464295
M2 is also amazing though, the Samsung 950 pro and upcoming 960 pro (pic related) blow out the market in speeds

>>57464000
Z170-A, MSI Krait is just a gaymen meme for white/black builds.

Hey /pcgb/ how's my poor fag build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fW9F4C

>>57464406
Should I get a tempered glass case then?

>>57464406
I have a VERY similar build to yours, but it's got the 470 in it.
Also-
>Don't need custom cooler, CPU can't overclock on locked mobo and locked multiplier(no K at the end of the name).
>Go with a 1x8 GB stick of ram, cheaper.
>Don't get the H110, get a z170.

Know what, here.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NNgpr7

Shit, >>57464647 meant to reply to >>57464476

I'm looking to buy a tenkeyless keyboard without breaking the bank, currently using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823191005
Are my only options the K65 and the Quickfire Rapid?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8JBTH
How is this build? Plan to use it for light gaming, web browsing, and drawing. I'm at my maximum budget with this, I can only go very slightly higher, but I'd prefer not to.

>>57464679
>>>/g/mkg/

>>57464909
You can get a 2 TB Hitachi Ultrastar 7k3000 HDD for the same price.

>>57462336
Well fug, who DOES have good cards? I just want something reliable.

>>57466930
>Sapphire
>XFX
>MSI
>PNY

etc.

I have an ASUS 470, it serves me pretty well though.

S340 elite or enthoo m pro glass window

1. How expensive are PC parts going to get when the Donald destroys free trade?

2. If you used a free upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 and you build a new PC, can you put that old Windows 8 on new PC?

3. Is now a good time to build a PC or should I wait?

I am running an old 2600k which performs well enough, but my motherboard is having all kinds of problems and most of the stuff in my PC other than my GPU are at least 4+ years old at this point. So I just want to build a whole new PC from scratch.

>>57464909
A Hyper 212 isn't going to fit in a mini-itx case... It stands over six inches off the motherboard.

>>57467171
>1. How expensive are PC parts going to get when the Donald destroys free trade?
Think Canadian dollar prices at the worst case, and that won't be from free trade agreements directly. It will be from backlash and "revenge" treaties from other countries to punish and penalize America for pulling out of other country's FTAs. Sort of how alliances were during the build-up to WWI.
>If you used a free upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 and you build a new PC, can you put that old Windows 8 on new PC?
My understanding is that you need to downgrade to Windows 8 for that to work.
>Is now a good time to build a PC or should I wait?
Around February, I'd say. Zen and Kaby Lake will be out by then and older parts will be on clearance.
We won't feel the impact of the Trump presidency and FTA killings until at least 2018 at the earliest.

Ok, so starting job soon that will pay $440 USD per week. So what can I build with only 2 ($880) or 3 ($1320) paychecks that will handle my geaming, strarming, and rendering? And no, I can't do any of the black Friday / cyber Monday deals, because won't dosh yet then (Starting 2 days before turkey day, so no dosh till week after on Friday) I will be able to peg any Christmas sales though.

Also, I plan on dual booting *nix and win10 (not anniversary) so I need 2 os ssds and a data hdd

>>57467243
If there are no good deals on black Friday should I just wait for kaby lake?

I was planning to build with the i5-6600k. How much more expensive will the kaby lake i5k be than the 6600k now?

I bought a prebuilt recently for £650.
>i5 6400
>GTX 1060 3gb (I'll probably upgrade it to a 6gb when I can)
>16gb 2133mhz DDR4 Ram
This'll run every game at high-ultra settings at 1080p, right?

>>57468251
Nope.

>>57467529
>geaming, strarming
Start by getting a new fucking keyboard

>>57467529
Aim for i7-6700K and 1070, i assume you have peripherals?

>>57468251
Yeah, could upgrade it with an SSD if it doesn't have one.

>>57467984
>How much more expensive will the kaby lake i5k
Probably same price

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Reminder that "cable management" does not affect anything of important in any way whatsoever.

>>57469165
*Unless you're in a very small form factor case.

Why should I get the 8gb RX 480 instead of the 4gb RX 480?

>>57460642
Why not just buy a prebuilt or a SBC?

>>57466978
Price just dropped further. 600 bucks for a 1080 armor with gears of war 4 as a bonus. Is it still a meme?

>>57461001
The E5640 is better, dumbfuck.

It's literally two generations ahead, one socket ahead.

As for the graphics card, R9 270/270X. At least, that's what I'm planning on getting.

Is this OK? The alien text is Turkish.

Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake 8M 4.0Ghz 1151
MSI Z170A Gaming M7 D4 2400Mhz ATX 1151 (Mafia III Hediyeli)
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2666MHz CL16 (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16R)
MSI GTX1080 Gaming X 8GB GDDR5X 256Bit (GEFORCE GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G)
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 64MB 7200Rpm (ST2000DM001)
Sandisk SSD Plus 480GB 535/445MB (SDSSDA-480G-G26)
Deep Cool Genome-WH-BL Sıvı Soğutmalı Kasa Siyah Mavi Helix
Zalman ZM700-GLX 700W Güç Kaynağı 80+ Bronz
ViewSonic VX2778-SMHD 27 2K 5ms Hdmi 2560x1440
Asus MG278Q Gaming 27 1ms/144Hz Hdmi 2560x1440
Pioneer BDR-209DBK 16X Dahili Blu-Ray/BD-R
PC Toplama Hizmet Bedeli (Montaj Hizmeti)
Logitech G430 Kablolu Gaming Kulaklık 981-000537
Logitech G300s Gaming Mouse USB Siyah 910-004346
Logitech G240 Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad 943-000095
Logitech G710+ Gaming Kablolu Mekanik 920-005705

>>57469486
Absolute turkroach garbage.

>>57469504
nicely memed m8

Im looking to buy the gtx 1060 or 1070. Im not sure if im going to go with ASUS or MSI? I have a msi motherboard so its leaning towards MSI. Anyone have any input on this?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/

You guys see anywhere I can improve? I spent a lot of time trying to find some places I can skim on to save cash and I think I've pretty much got everything to where I like it so I'd just like some second opinions.

>too much RAM
doing a lot of work in photoshop and other adobe programs so the RAM is needed. i also run a dick load of programs at once, daily.

>why not just get an 212 EVO or ____ CPU cooler?
currently using it and i hated the installation. even when i got it on the thing still moved around and smeared the thermal paste everywhere and made it hell to take fans off and put on. i'd rather spend the extra money for an easier to install, quieter, and sturdy cooler.

>are you overclocking?
yeah hence the K

>60hz or 144hz?
60hz, currently. will most likely move onto 144hz if a good one is on sale during BF/CM

>>57469930
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3TzZ8

i'm an idiot and copied the wrong link, sorry

>>57469930
>EVGA
I wouldn't.

Asked some time ago but I'm still unsure.Any recommendations for a 500-550 euro Budget PC? Mostly just play Overwatch, only demanding game is DA:I, which I'd would like to play at 60fps high or something.

Intel i3 6100
Nvidia gtx 1060 3gb/ RX 480 4gb/ RX 470 4gb
Corsair CXM 550 W 80 Plus Bronze
Crucial Ballistix 8gb
Some cheap H110M Motherboard

Don't know about Case.

>>57470133

alright let me just follow your advise blindly without any explanation whatsoever on why i should avoid EVGA products really quick

care to elaborate, sir?

>>57470293
Drop the shitty Corsair PSU. Do you need case, SSD/HDD or something and do we talk about US?

>>57470399
From Austria/EU. What's a better PSU for 60 euro, and a case for around 50 euro? Already have a 275gb SSD and 3TB HDD ony my current toaster and will just continue using those.

>>57470306
They literally catch on fire. It's been posted about a lot.

>>57470306
Basically, EVGA's 1070 and 1080 GPUs have been literally catching on fire, because there's no real cooling on their VRMs, nor do the said VRMs have any sort of temperature sensor or anything so card don't even know to shut down or start throttling when they overheat.

>>57470524
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/2YPhKZ

>>57456108
Not other anon but get bigger HDDs at least

>>57456194
Not that other anon either but you'd be surprised how quickly it fills, also you want your games on the ssd too, at least the ones you play frequently

>>57456195
Get a bigger ssd

>>57456257
Just do it

Anything I should consider here http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bR8Xnn ?

Mainly unsure about motherboard, PSU and the CPU cooler

>>57470760
Thanks for the help. I'd probably buy the GPU somewhere else where it'd be 250 euro. would the gtx 1060 3gb be better in that case for 220 or is the rx 480 simply better. Not familiar with the battle between amd and nvidia.

>>57470995
RX480 is far better than 1060 3G, that card is gimped on purpose, 1060 6G is a different story.

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I'm considering water cooling with a custom loop on my next build
For CPU + GPU cooling, would a single 240mm radiator be enough for some light gayming, or would a second radiator be preferred?
Probably won't be overclocking any time soon either.

PCPartPicker.com/list/byghKZ
Thoughts? Preferred under 1200 after card

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>>57471079
put to pumbs or split in the exit of the pumb and join at exit of radiator

that must get you the better heat transfer.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/L2k7vV

Thoughts?

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Does the number of fans make a difference in cooling? I don't know which of these three setups would be the best.

Anyone know of a good assembly tutorial?

I'm fucking lost with the cables.

>>57471436

Top left.

>>57471436
I'd go for two in front and one in back. Diminishing returns hit hard after that.

>>57471486
>>57471494
thanks

>>57471340
But if there's a pressure difference, one side wouldn't get enough flow.

>>57471436
>don't know which of these three

take the case you like more;

obiois the right is better but diff is no to much;

cpu cooler make the diff not case fans;

one front one back is good;

I current only one back and is nice (Amd fx)
no stock cooler,

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>>57470798
Oh I will, any brands besides hitachi and WD I should avoid?
>>57470824
Yeah I hear you, I have a few games a other programs that would benefit from the speed

>>57471079
I'd recommend at least 360mm worth of radiator if possible.
The order of your loop doesn't matter, makes no different to temps.

>>57471340
Not really.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FjghKZ
How does my build look?

>>57472251
Get the EVGA G2 instead of that absurd titanium PSU.

>>57471036
>>57470760
Would that be a good enough motherboard? Is a bit cheaper.

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3Zwqqs/msi-motherboard-h110mprod

So are we absolutely positive that kaby lake will be out in february along with z270 boards?

>>57472549
Don't be a waitcuck faggot.

>>57472549
>t. waitcuck

>>57468533
I figured I would pre-memeify those words for you.
>>57468615
Yep. Or at least as good as they will be getting for a while. I'll be upgrading them later. Thanks for the starter.

>>57447993
Purpose: VMs, huge databases, crunching trillions of numbers, email and internet
Budget: Anything
Country: Norway (why do you care?)
I don't care as long as I can use 8 UHD monitors and it will do everything instantly

Okay so I've been buidling a new computer and everything seems to work just fine, but when I try to install Windows 7 from a USB, it says a cd/dvd device driver is missing. I don't even have an optical drive.
I've looked online and after trying some more popular solutions (switch usb ports, set bios to legacy, redownload iso) I'm at a loss for what to do next. Does anyone here know of a solution that doesn't involve buying an optical drive?
MB is Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P

>>57473845
Download a bios update from Gigabyte. Skylake makes you jump through a few extra hoops to get Windows 7 through USB.

>>57473993
I'll do that but how am I going to get the BIOs updated when I can't even get the OS functioning? Do I need a second USB with a bios update on it?

>>57474371
>doesn't know how to flash a BIOS update
Maybe you should buy a prebuilt instead

Any good graphics cards that support 4K? Don't really plan to game in 4K -- just want above 30FPS for desktop and video. Prefer < $150. Thanks.

>>57472499
Yes.

>>57473993
I updated from F5 to F20b and I'm still getting the same result

>>57474371
Google "How to flash the bios"

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I'm looking for a really powerful Wifi card or adapter. What's the best way to achieve this? I once had an Alfa USB adapter but it wasn't anything special compared to just onboard Wifi. I end up moving around a lot and always get shitty wifi/my hotspot I need to use is far away. Anyone know any good adapters or ideas?

>>57475133
ASUS PCE-AC68 AC1900

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Will i be able to play Starcraft II with a Celeron G3900, 16gb of DDR400 ram and a Geforce 1050 on full HD?

Believe it or not, 45 year old unix admin here, had only laptops for the last 20 years.

>>57475174
Thanks I'll look into it. Would one of those outdoor Wifi antennas work? I never understood the system they use. Can I just get a super long range antenna and put it on my stock wireless card, and it will work really great? Or would the card not have enough power to put through it?

>>57475269
>DDR400
GOTTA GO FAST

>>57475379
Thats what the board wanted. I overclocked my mousepad for speed tho. Jelly?

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So everything on my computer is all connected WITH THE EXCEPTION of my SSD. I can NOT figure out where this smarmy bastards home is.


A side question nobody has to answer: how do you guys get your cords so pretty and not a jumbled mess like mine?

>>57476787
Throw that nugget of shit in the bin son.

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>>57476861

>>57476787
>Z170-AR
>Intel stock cooler
>min 800W PSU
>absolute shit cable management
End the suffering of your parts and throw them away.
Also end your sufferng and get a rope.

Is a 1060 3GB for $160 a good deal?

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>>57447993
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CL3vbj

Build will be used for school (infosec, virtualization) and moderate gaming. What would you change? I'm also looking into a multi monitor setup, 2 1080p 24 inches good?

pcpartpicker.com/list/YkxPKZ
This is an interesting build for a friend of mine. He wants two SSD's so he can run windows and also use Linux without fear of fucking up windows. So that's stuck there. He wants to be able to fuck with Linux, make music with FL studio, and play video games. budget is $1200-1300. Everything else is up for debate.

>>57469165
>looks aren't important
>>57469212
Even then it's almost never an issue with the cables

>>57470306
They catch fire
Why don't you try looking things up yourself

>>57472549
It's been out for years they've been calling it 6700k and z170

>>57474458
>30fps
A 1060 would do that, even a 1050ti could do 30fps 4K on low settibgs

I got a 1060 3GB MSI OCV1 for $160. Did I get a good deal?

What's the cheapest way to buy Windows for my new PC I'm building?

>>57477775
Kinguin.
Look Windows 7 OEM.

>>57477765
>>57477266
Y"all got good deals considering they were 200 couple weeks ago.

But that 3GB is gonna throttle ya in the future.

Good luck.

>>57477862
is that shit legit or what?

>>57477916
Drop 25 bucks and find out.

I spent 80 in a different site on an OEM of win7, because apparently MS turned ALL retail codes into OEM codes, so that's that.

Either way, if you're strapped for cash, try it.
Get the 2 buck insurance as well.

Oh, and Kinguin's located in Hong Kong, just thought I'd drop that too.

>>57477375
Here ya go m8
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3K4m3F

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What motherboard should I choose for my spaceship?

>>57478262
Delete this build and start from scratch.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wJftQV

How does it look?
I want to keep the thing high-end without exceeding $1000 too much.

>>57478286
Get an SSD, at least. Doesn't have to be a massive one. Can probably also afford to go a little cheaper on the mobo, considering you're not overclocking.

Also get 3000 mhz memory, it's actually a tangible performance gain these days for next to nothing cost wise.

>>57478262
>i7
>Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM
>Shitty AIO liquid cooler
>ASUS GPUs
>windowless case for a meme build
Is this bait?
>>57478286
Drop to a h110 MoBo.

>>57478286
Bad. Here:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8rhKZ

>>57478335
Wait what's wrong with ASUS GPUs?

>>57478400
Overpriced garbage. Get Zotac or PNY instead.

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>>57478385
>>57478335
>>57478286

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8rhKZ
How does it look now?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gkftQV
anyone got some memes for me?

>>57478465
also meant for >>57478308

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>>57469408
The primary reasons for self built are expansion in the future (going to a bigger cpu, maybe new socket, and more disks), modularity, and silent/very quiet operation. Plus the motherboard I chose will take ECC memory, which is cool and useful since I have shitloads of it.

Prebuilts in the $150 area are loud, hot, Core 2 or sandy bridge machines in questionable condition and lack expansion.

SBCs or laptops are much more complex. If I go cheap then I have to figure out external disk enclosures and am generally stuck with shit specs and slow networking. If I go more expensive then I sacrifice options and don't actually save any money.

>>57478413
Might as well recommend Palit while you're at it.

>>57478478
Waste of 250$
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mL7gzM

what about black friday/cyber monday?
is it worth waiting for the sales? or are they shit?

is it ever worth getting a titanium certified PSU?

>>57478953
You'll save like 20 cents on your power bill a month.

>>57478953
You'll have the satisfaction of having the best PSU on the market.

>>57478478
anyone?

Poorfag and first time making a build, please do not bully.
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JxNTPs
I plan to use it for light gaming, watching anime and browsing the internet. I'm trying to keep it around/under $800, not including the keyboard and monitor. Is there anyway I can reduce the price/keep performance roughly the same without using questionable quality parts?

>>57479289
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fVRhKZ
You want quad core for gaming, not dual core.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/k3jKcc
How does this look?

>nvidia releases 1050 ti
>price is already higher in Canada
>now price will be even higher because trump

>>57479483
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qDVRzM

>>57479378
Thanks for the help, anon.

>>57479378
>You want quad core for gaming, not dual core

Bruh, i3 has hyperthreading letting it mimic quad core.

Great for gaming on a budget, what the fuck are you on about?

Will the performance gain of Kaby Lake be worth waiting to build?

I see comparisons with like 2600k, 3770k, 4680k, 4790k, and 6700k all being within a few percent of each other in performance (when overclocked). Like there has been almost negligible gaming performance increase in the last six years.

If I will ONLY game and nothing else, is it worth waiting? With this coming generation be any different?

>>57480343
Wait and see the benchmarks, then decide for yourself.

Personally, I'm swapping over to zen when it hits the market.

>>57480343
It's literally Skylake overclocked and USB3.1 native to the southbridge. All of the IPC gains have been proven to be directly tied to higher clock speeds, not any improvements to the architecture. FFS even the iGPU is exactly the same and is still called the HD 5200

>>57480496
What about optane SSDs?

Will I be missing out if I build now or will they be prohibitively expensive at first like SSDs were back in the day?

I am just trying to build a mid-range 1440p system that will run things well enough for a few years at least. So if they come out and cost like $500 for 128gb or something, that would be way above my range anyways.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qfXpr7
R8 my poorfag build.

>>57480533
>What about optane SSDs?
Won't be ready for the market until halfway through next year. And don't hold your breath on the pricing. Think Intel 750, not 730.