/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>faglet

>install nvidia-beta drivers
>force composition pipeline
>no more tearing

it just werks
Thank you NVIDIA™

>using the smiley with an arch nose

>>57350939
Are you using nouveau? what card?

>>57350948
>nvidia-beta drivers
>nouveau
?
gtx 770 and I mean this https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-beta/

I'm about to start learning Python with the online tutorial just to be able to do basic homework stuff. I use Debian with Python 2.7, What additional stuff can you recommend me to use? I'm talking about IDEs or anything that might make it easier or add more functionality; Is there any good stuff I should know about?

>>57350939
>>57350955
it works fine on gentoo
i just top lel at your pathetic arch using ass

>>57350959

Don't learn Python 2, unless it's absolutely required by your teaching institution.
Use any text editor that has the features you find yourself in need of and only then.
Don't bikeshed with useless questions and just start learning it.

>>57350969
Do you want me to open my funroll loops shitpost folder for you?

>>57350959
vim is pretty based :)
especially if you already use it

>>57350975
Nope. But I want you to open your mouth for me.
*takes out a medium sized male penis*
*starts pouring yellow liquid right down your throat*

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>>57350988
>medium sized
4 inches isn't "medium sized", femanon. But it's okay I love feminine penis

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>>57351000
Oh and
Checkem

>>57351000
Yeah I can tell my 'mate'... Since you posted someone I already had oral contact with lmao
he sucked it real nice xD I even forced him to pay me for it

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>>57351000
dem trips

>>57351000
Flawless

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>>57351000

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>>57351000

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>>57351000
LAD

>>57351037
god dammng! i almost punched my screen!!

>>57350974

>Don't learn Python 2, unless it's absolutely required by your teaching institution.

It's what comes with Debian stable, I can't update it any further without making a Frankenstein or changing my OS.

>text editor

I only use LibreOffice because I'm not autistic. I was thinking more about something like a VisualPython suite or something like NetBeans for Python.

>>57350977

I'm not into autism. I tried nano once and even the command to close it is hidden and requires a combination of 3 keys. I want software that actually works.

>>57351050
how the FUCK does it not work? if you are too retarded to learn a few keybinds, fine. but it works for the rest of us with normally functioning brains you know since it isn't the WINDOWS/NT thread

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>>57351050
>libreoffice for python
>Netbeans for python
>what is gedit
>what is geany

>>57351057
What is she doing to this cat(?)?

>>57351054
>keybinds
Maybe he wants to learn python instead

>>57351063
Molesting

>>57351065
nothing stops "him" (not a real man) from learning both at the same fucking time my 'matey'

>>57351054

I don't want to trigger you, but if you can afford to learn keybinds for trivial tasks on basic utility software instead because said software doesn't even have an X on the corner, then that sofwtare is bad and you're a pretentious retard for using it. The fact that you over-complicate stuff doesn't mean that you're smart, it just means that your time is worth nothing.

Is Gnome 3 for kaffir-lovers?

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>>57351074
GNOME3 isn't bad

gtk3+ is

>>57351073
>pretentious
didn't read this self-aware meta deconstructive post beyond this deep analytical word
also
*starts pissing all over your "face"*

>>57351078

>I stopped reading when I started hurting

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>>57351077
Ops wrong one :^)
using gtk distro right now, so..

>>57351050

Python 3 is in the Debian repositories. Installing Python 3 does not make it a Frankedebian. Look up what a Frankendebian is.

I can already see that you're bikeshedding about editors instead of just picking the one installed on your computer and using it.

>>57351087
uuuhnn
*starts crying*
yep... looks like you were right :(
is this post a meta analysis of the genre of deconstructive overrated posts too?

>>57351075
0/3

>>57351050
don't use a rich text editor, retard
if you really need an IDE for python then use PyCharm
if you want a text editor, you'd probably like sublime text, atom or visual studio code

Anyone have any fun virtualization technologies?

I'm switching my server from fedora to proxmox out of boredom, but tbqh I was looking for something a bit more "" out there "". Although not Linux, I did try SmartOS which looks kewl but for some strange reason it has no AMD support

>>57351077
>GNOME3 isn't bad
Lack of features, and requires systemd. Into the trash.
Also Islam is degeneracy, europe was prosperous for many years before mass immigration the Middle-East.

>>57351168

Name something wrong with systemd you imbecile memester. You can't.

>>57351168
1. Nothing wrong with systemd
2. Islam is probably the most r9k approved distros you can get

>>57351168
>europe was prosperous for many years before mass immigration the Middle-East.
Hahahahaha europoor finally found something to blame

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>>57351174
High suspicion of a backdoor. High probability of a serious exploit. See attached picture.
>inb4 thread turns into shitshow systemd debate

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>>57351199
>High suspicion of a backdoor. High probability of a serious exploit.
High probability of autism right there

>>57351192
See >>57351199

Also c'mon KDE Shill, I thought you were red pilled when it came to systemd. Thats why KDE is better than Gnome, no need for systemd.

>>57351204
N O T - A N - A R G U M E N T

>>57351204
Suspicion of a backdoor maybe a little farfetched, not its undeniable that C is prone to produce exploits and bugs, expecially in large projects like systemd.

>>57351208
>red pilled
Yes I am. Unfortunately, NSA doesnt have to rely on systemd to spy on you

>>57351210
Did you mean to quote >>57351199? Because sure as hell all I see is tinfoil shit in that post.

When i start terminal i get
bash: command not found
what do i do

>>57351418

Check your bashrc.

>>57351225
See >>57351221

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>over the course of 24 hours or so if I leave my computer on the LAN gets slower and slower to the points it's only 30kb/s
>rebooting my laptop fixes it

ugh I can't even be bothered trying to find what the hell is causing this right now it's easier to just restart. if there's one thing linux can do it's make problems seem like puzzles. I feel like Dr House trying to diagnose some obscure disease.

>>57350889
Any interesting, exciting, or terrible new distro releases or happenings in the last three months or so?

I want to use autofs for automounting.
I already managed that my drives do get mounted automatically when inserted.
My only problem is that it mounts it to /run, even though I wrote

/media/$USER/   /etc/autofs/auto.removable

into the autofs.master file.
auto.removable only contains the key names, -fstype=auto,rw,user and the UUID.
Is / automatically /run for autofs?
Or did I forget to configure something?
I've already looked at autofs(5) and auto.master(5) and nothing mentions even that everything gets mounted to /run.
It's only for autistic reasons that it shouldn't be mounted to /run.

>>57351877
Nope, but I will stay gentoo to the end.

>>57351954
>I want to use autofs for automounting.
why? use systemd-automount instead

>>57351966
I don't have systemd installed and don't want to for now.

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Why are scripted installers such shit

>>57351963
I'm with you, brother...

What do you guys think of flatpak? Should I even bother or simply use my package manager for everything like before

How to compile the VirtualBox kernel module for Linux 4.8?

I am installing gentoo but I am a noob when it comes to network.

During my last installed, I failed setting up the network connection. (after rebooot, ifconfig just gave me lo)

I am doing another install from scratch.

Just to confirm,

ifconfig gives me
>enp0s25
>lo
>wlp2s0

While following https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/System

should I just type enp0s25 whenever the guide mention eth0 ?

Both when editing /etc/conf.d/net and when using rc-update to automatically start the network?

I am pretty sure it was my mistake the first time...

>>57352043
> Proxmox
> i386

>>57352179
Fixed it. It fails to compile with gcc-6.

export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-5

>>57352204
>should I just type enp0s25 whenever the guide mention eth0 ?
yup

>>57352043
it's trying to install the boot loader to your usb, reorder the devices in the bios and cross your fingers
>>57352221
grub IS i386 because it's booted by the bios, only uefi can boot 64 bit code directly

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any gtkrc wizards.
I fixed one issue with themes that was causing icons to have a off-center double text by changing
textstyle = 5 to textstyle = 0

what's the way to fix text scrunching.
>inb4 don't use bookmarks toolbar

>>57352588
Thanks but it turned out to be due to the fact the drive was formatted with btrfs prior. dd'ing zeros into the first 1024kb fixed it

>>57352794
>using gtk
lol
also I hope you don't use your real info on ebay and amazon... cuz you know, they log that shit!

What does "server" mean in a linux context? E.g. X server, audio server..

>>57352906
Just try to analyze what server means in English and you'll be pretty close

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>>57352794
oh noes

>>57352924
does it bring me drinks?

>>57353004
>posts completely normal gtk behaviour
enjoy your gtk m8

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What are some cool MUST LEARN Bash commands/scripts.

I'm so fascinated by this stuff.

>>57353154

sudo fetch --metadata --log --target=-nsa.gov [your ip]

this is a pretty cool one in my opinion

>>57353154
I'm a relative newbie btw

>>57353154
>I'm so fascinated by this stuff.
If you are, give TLDP a read.

>>57353154
learn basic bash and ffmpeg so can show off other scripts you learn later on.

>>57353205

sudo apt-get install screenfetch
screenfetch

it hacks your linux distro and makes it 3-5% more energy efficient also you gain about a 6% increase in horsepower

>>57353226
I can into basics.
>>57353221
>TLDP
Will check it out.
>>>57353234
I can feel the horse powers already,

should I be using wayland instead of Xorg?

>>57353329
>should I be using NSA software instead of CIA software?
well mate the choice is yours

>>57353428
t. tin foil paranoia
upboated XD

>>57353436
>not being paranoid when living in a distopia
huh?
also tin foil actually doesn't protect you from anything if that's what you're getting at.

>upboated XD
seems like you're lost... you're from the website reddit.com right? i've seen your kind around here a lot lately

>>57353491

literally more paranoid than Stallman, And he freaking wgets sites to email to himself

>I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).

http://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

>>57353496
>>I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).
>uttering this disgusting name in my presence
how about you fuck off?

I never need to search multiple man pages in one command line. Thus if I give a second argument to man, I'd like it to search the content of the man page for the first arg for the description of the second arg.

man man -k

would open the manpage for man and jump to the description of the "-k" option.
Is there a way to have that? I don't mind replacing my distro's man with another's.

>>57353511
stop spread FUD. No wonder these threads have turned to shit.

>>57353561
>stop spreading truth
okay...


LOL no

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>>57352794
>>57353004

Works on my machine(tm).
How to fix it? Use a theme which supports the GTK version you're using (assuming your Firefox is compiled with GTK3 support).

>>57353627
I'm pretty sure I have it with Qt support but I still can't set the theme

i think I have developed Consciousness... I'm not sure...

>>57353642

>firefox made to use qt
I seriously, very seriously doubt that.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Qt
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/4y5zbw/is_there_a_chance_well_ever_have_a_firefox_qt_port/

Judging from your comment, I assume that you're confused about a few things and are trying to fix things which don't need to be fixed.
Assuming that you're using the latest, regular Firefox. compiled with GTK3 support (not GTK2) and the latest default GTK3 theme, Adwaita, you shouldn't be having any problems.

is there no application like xrandr for wayland? I'm trying to use Sway with my laptop but I need to hook it up to an external monitor. How can I turn off my laptop's display and have the external monitor be the only one showing an image?

>>57353696
I'm running gentoo and I set the use flags to -gtk3 -gtk2 and qt. So that should give me Qt support.
Maybe your links are outdated or I have made a mistake somewhere?

2bh if ubuntu ditched unity and just fully supported budgie, there would be no need for windows in 2016+

>>57353723
You have to directly use Sway to do that. I believe there are commands to add screens.
You can't rotate screens yet though.

>>57353792
what do you mean directly? How else am I supposed to use it? I just type sway in a terminal to boot it up.

>>57353801
https://github.com/SirCmpwn/sway/wiki
>If you have several displays, you can configure them in your sway config file using the output command. man 5 sway and look for output.
RTFM.

>>57353745

>apparently is knowledgeable enough in the whole software world to use gentoo
>doesn't realize that you can't just make software use a certain GUI toolkit without writing it to use it

There is no "Qt" flag for Firefox.
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/www-client/firefox

>>57353816
>>apparently is knowledgeable enough in the whole software world to use gentoo
You don't have to be knowledgeable anymore to run gentoo. The handbook is really easy to follow.

sudo apt-get remove --purge unfriendly-anons

-copied from /r/eddit

>>57353832

I didn't mean it in that way.
What I meant is that someone who is in a position to benefit from Gentoo would actually know this. This just proves that he's one of those pretentious idiots who thinks that installing and using Gentoo will make him cool and smart, giving him opportunity to brag about it on the internet. Seeing them out themselves as that kind of people (idiots) on here, feels really great.

>>57353846
sudo: apt-get: command not found

>>57353846

>error: cannot remove unfriendly-anons, because package "common-sense" and "helpful-posts" depend on it

>>57353816
But I have it my make.conf and in my package.use.

>>57353902
>>57353920
sudo apt-get remove --purge these-comments-NOW

>>57353846
anon is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported

>>57353939
sudo penis -jizz 57353939 57353920 57353902 57353846

>>57353950

You can't jizz that much, you'll exhaust /dev/penis.

>>57353925
How do you expect Firefox to enable Qt if it doesn't have it implemented?
USE flags aren't magical things. They just enable features if said feature is available.
If it's not, it ignores it.

equery uses www-client/firefox

.
Run that through your terminal and see that Qt isn't listed.
You should really read again how USE flags work or actually considering to change your distro.

>>57353979
>tfw no /dev/penis to exhaust

>>57353982

>You should really read again how USE flags work or actually considering to change your distro.

But how is he going to brag about having Gentoo installed and how great it is, not like other pleb distros?

>>57353982
I already have Qt installed on my system so I don't need to get any additional features for it. I'm using Gentoo with KDE. So I just have to enable the use flag in make.conf and package.use. Are you not familiar with gentoo?

>>57354018

Holy shit, you're stupid.
Enjoy your Gentoo.

>>57354018
there is not "qt" use flag in gentoo for firefox

stop this blatant bait

@57354018
Okay, now I know that you are just farming for (You)s.
And you ain't getting another one from me.

>>57354041
there's a qt flag for me irl tho

>>57354024
You're pretty stupid yourself if you can't grasp basic Gentoo concepts.
>>57354041
Would that matter though if I've set it in my make.conf? It's set globally so why would it matter if firefox has it?
>>57354046
i'll give you one though, i'm kind. Unlike (You)

>>57354075

You should write an article about your important discovery. Adding an use flag will automatically write a GUI for a program using that toolkit. No need to actually write anything, wasting useless lines of code and manpower. All we have to do is declare a USE flag inside Gentoo. It will do the rest.

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>>57354075
>Would that matter though if I've set it in my make.conf? It's set globally so why would it matter if firefox has it?
theres no option to build it with qt support because firefox doesn't use qt.
theres no global or local qt flag for firefox.

Trying to extend the idle timeout for sshd. We have software that takes forever to install (SAS) and the ssh connections are timing out before it's complete. I've set the following in /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

ClientAliveInterval 600
ClientAliveCountMax 3

restarted sshd and it's still giving me the same 5 minutes. Any thoughts?

>>57354129
What discovery? I already have Qt enabled and installed on my system. What's left is enabling it in Firefox. We use USE flags to compile it with certain settings in this distro.
>>57354141
There is a global Qt flag in gentoo. You put 'qt' in your /etc/portage/make.conf and all GUI programs are compiled with Qt support.

>>57354206
>this retard was actually able to install gentoo
absolutely disgusting

>>57354257
Yeah. And you evidently weren't or you wouldn't be making such stupid posts. Learn the basics of Gentoo first, then make shitposts about the distro.

>>57354184
Can't help you with your exact problem but you should consider running long commands in scree/tmux/abduco, this way your commands could keep on running even if you were to lose your connection to the server.

@57354206
Seriously. Stop using Gentoo if you don't know how software compiling works.
Because you show clear as day that you don't.
Not every software has Qt integrated. No matter how much you want it to.
Firefox is one of those.
If you want to discuss it further, compile Firefox with ncurses and show your screenshot of its interface.
And if it's not an ncurses interface, stop posting in this thread unless you have a real problem.

>>57354257
>>57354278
It's a troll. Stop feeding him.

>>57354274
>>57354206 has persuaded me to remove gentoo to install Ubuntu

>>57354278
Yes. I understand that Qt is not integrated into Firefox. That is why I want to compile Qt capabilities into Firefox by setting a global qt USE flag in my make.conf.
>ncurses
Firefox is a GUI app so I'm not sure that would work with it. And I don't want to waste my time on compiling something I will never use.

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>>57354278
>@57354206
>@'ing a post on 4chan

>>57354330
read his eariler @

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

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>>57354341
there's a bit of irony when he says

>Stop using Gentoo if you don't know how software compiling works.

when he clearly doesn't know how 4chan works.

>>57354429
>>>/fugly/
you need to go back

>>57354426
Damn, that's one rare Pepe.
I have over 1000 Pepes but not this one.
Too bad it's not allowed to save

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>>57354426
arch debian rawhide

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>>57354490
Pepe on doglars when?

>>57354429
4chin works?

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>>57354426
Nice one
*steals your pepe and starts mass producing it causing insane inflation*
>>57354490
here mate, have one. This one is un-DRM'ed

Does someone knows how to get wireless on gentoo on a thinkpad x201 ?

I took the kernel .config from https://github.com/tvm1/x201-linux

I ran emerge --ask sys-kernel/linux-firmware

and then compile the kernel

> ifconfig using the installation disk shows wlp2s0
>there is no mention of the wireless interface when I boot on my system.

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>>57354522
Neat-o

>>57354528
write 'wifi-thinkpadx201' in your make.conf

Do you guys by any chance have a link or know where the full set of files released during the pri- sm leak of 2013 is contained?

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>>57351050
>nano
>command to close it is hidden
if you're this retarded then python is the perfect language for you
^==Ctrl is one of the most basic things you need to know when using a *nix OS, it shows up in documentation constantly.

>that one idiot who had a simple GTK problem is "pretending" to be retarded now to save grace on an anonymous image based internet forum after being called out for being stupid and insisting that he wasn't

Ranking pretty high on my table of idiots.

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>>57354522
>Make inflation great again

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>>57354561
lmfao

>>57350969
>experiences zero screen tearing as he watches code compile.

>>57354426
When I started using Linux I had similar requirements. I went with crunchbang and it enabled me to slowly delve into debian minimals and then gentoo. I don't know if Crunchbang++ is any good but you could look into it.

>>57353154

fbsetbg -a `find $WALLDIR | egrep '(jpg|png|gif)$' | sort -R | head -n1`

sets a random wallpaper in fluxbox from a predefined wallpaper directory

>>57354561
I was the original gtk issue anon. the qt idiot is someone else.

>>57354528
Post

grep firmware /usr/src/.config

what packages do I need to install on fedora 25 in order to get the twitch html5 player to work? It works fine in other distributions

>>57354648
>>57354528
I meant

grep firmware /usr/src/linux/.config

, sorry

>>57354660
Just a browser that isn't shit.

I'm setting up an FTP server for me & some of my friends. Without encryption it works perfectly, but when I try to use SSL I got this error with filezilla

Status:    Resolving address of xxx.ddns.net
Status:    Connecting to xxx.xxx.xx.xx:21...
Status:    Connection established, waiting for welcome message...
Status:    Initializing TLS...
Status:    Verifying certificate...
Status:    TLS connection established.
Status:    Logged in
Status:    Retrieving directory listing...
Command:    PWD
Response:    257 "/home/xxx" is the current directory
Command:    TYPE I
Response:    200 Switching to Binary mode.
Command:    PASV
Response:    227 Entering Passive Mode (xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx).
Command:    LIST
Error:    Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity
Error:    Failed to retrieve directory listing
Status:    Disconnected from server

Here is my vsftp conf file http://pastebin.com/2jzB2WYz


Any idea what could be the issue ?

>>57354660
ffmpeg-libs.x86_64 from rpmfusion

>>57354682
How powerful is the server? Maybe it's choking when trying to encrypt the reply.

>>57354682
Increase the time out in Filezilla settings, everything seems to be working but it's taking more than 20 seconds to LIST and Filezilla gives up.

>>57354702
CPU is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.333GHz
it have 4GB of RAM (only using 237MB currently).

Is there a way to fake a file input?
I have a program that ecspects a config file after the flag "--file=" but said file has only one line of text, so can I give said text directly to the command flag?

>>57354688
thanks

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>>57354299
i mean business

>>57354735
>CPU is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.333GHz
a sun?

Is it possible to use iwlwifi in Trisquel??

>>57354778
If you use the standard deblobbed kernel, no.

>>57354538
Is this a USE flag?
should I recompile everything with it?
>>57354664
CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR="/lib/firmware"

which corresponds to what was indicated in

Device Drivers ---> Generic Driver Options ---> Firmware blobs root directory  

in the kernel makemenu

>>57354778
You alternative is Debian. Kernel comes deblobbed but allows you to install iwlwifi if you need it.
Best thing of both worlds.

>>57354786
Looks like I'm not using Trisquel then

>>57354803
Alright ill go with Debian Testing, i don't really mind systemd. Where can I find a testing iso, netinst preferably.

>>57354825
nm Found it

>>57354778
You can use a different kernel, but it wouldn't make sense to use Trisquel then.
>>57354825
Dont' use testing. Use unstable (Sid). This is what normal desktop users should use.
Next to this, get default debian, install it and change the sources.list to Sid.

>>57354767
>a sun?
just an old HP that had vista on it.


>>57354714
>>57354682
Now I got this

Response:    425 Failed to establish connection.
Error:    Failed to retrieve directory listing
Error:    GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received.
Status:    Disconnected from server: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted
Status:    Disconnected from server

I'm gonna search for it, gonna ask later if I don't find.

>>57354778
>iwlwifi
Pretty common problem. I guess more people would use free distros if their wifi would work. Needs more people reverse engeneering..

>>57354849
What directory is the Sid netinst iso?

http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/

>>57354908
Get vanilla Debian. You just change the repo urls (in sources.list) to have a different Debian version. That's all.

>>57354932
Doesn't this make a Frankendebian, i did this once, and then rebooted and everything was broken

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should I give zsh a try?

>>57354939
Debian doesn't release unstable versions. You upgrade to them.
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallFAQ

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#How_do_I_install_Sid.3F

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>>57354767
burning a dvd for this shit

>>57354960
yes if you can be bothered to set it up

It's much easier to configure, much more flexible, much more powerful and much more modern than bash. Bash is a joke in comparison

We use zsh everywhere at $WORKPLACE

>>57354991

share your .zshrc then

>>57354960
No. zsh is what macfags use who don't know how to upgrade their broken bash OS X is shipping.

>>57354985
>he actually installed the meme OS

>>57354960
hipster trash for people who can't customize their PS1 themselves, write POSIX scripts, rice bash for interactive use

>>57354801
Alright, now

grep CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE /usr/src/linux/.config

and see if the given result exists in /lib/firmware.
If it doesn't and you use a 64bit machine, try changing CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR to /lib64/firmware.

>>57355048
switching to ubuntu :^)

>>57354960
It has a few really neat features, the autocompletion is way better than bash's. It is also kinda bloated but still fast and responsive so I don't really care.
I'd say give it a try.

>>57355061
it gives
CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE="iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode"
CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR="/lib/firmware"

I just noticed that though wpl2s0 does not appear in ifconfig, it does appear in iwconfig.

I think I made a mistake in my /etc/conf.d/net

I wrote
modules=iwconfig"
config_wpl2s0="dhcp"

(since I had no idea what to type, i typed the same thing as enp0s25)

>>57355181
You probably should stop using ifconfig and start using

ip addr

instead.
I don't think the "modules" line is required in /etc/conf.d/net.
Is it working now?

>>57355181
>iwconfig
deprecated, use ip

>tfw ur code is so badness no one will pay for it

>>57355252
>deprecated
it actually isn't. it's just a different set of programs (iproute)

>>57355236
it is shown in ip addr
I will try to connect on wifi. Thank you for your help.

Are there any recent guides worth a shit installing Linux on a Surface Pro 2? Not sure if I should format a partition and install it through a thumb drive then just cycle the boot.

>>57350889
>using a picture of the smiley with a carat nose where the carat is the arch logo

>>57355331
i mean yeah why wouldnt it be the same

>>57351088
>>57355065
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>57355362
does it hurt your feelings?

>>57355270
>proprietary software
>gnu/Linux thread
Codec

>>57355252
You're right it's been deprecated but not by ip, it was deprecated by iw.

>>57355279
iw is not actually part of the iproute2 set of tools but it's closely related.


For more information:
https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/

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If Arch Linux is meant to be simple, why doesn't it have a simple installer?

>>57355410
It's called Manjaro :^)

>>57355410
it does

>>57355270
>badness

>>57355410
>using a picture of the smiley with a carat nose where the carat is the arch logo
>>57355428
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>57355410
to make kids look cool on the internet

>>57355410

Pacstrap is a simple installer.

>>57355454
(^:

>>57355525
<carat nose smiley>

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>>57355539
it's a tortilla

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>>57355704

>>57355704
is the carrot nose smiley spinning or moving back and forth?

>>57355738
The original animation is a complete circle spin, but it really looks strangem kek.

>>57354991

>more powerful

The people who ask such questions don't use 5% of Bash's capabilities. Using zsh "powerful features" means shit to them. They think that you need to get a new shell to change the prompt.
I also seriously doubt you and your "workplace" have utilized Bash 100% and exhausted its capabilities, which would warrant a switch to a "non-standard" shell.

>>57355525
>using the backward smiley with a carat nose
>>57355704
>>57355731
>using a picture of the smiley with a carat nose

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I dunno if this is the right place to ask but I'm desperate.
I'm having connectivity issues and I think they're all related to the same problem (that I cannot pinpoint exactly what it is).

>wget doesn't work

I can't download anything using wget, it hangs and I have to cancel.

>youtube-dl doesn't work

Again, it hangs.

>mpv --ytdl only works for specific sites

It doesn't work for youtube or takes too long to open the video.

>script to download all files from 4chan doesn't work

Works for other imageboards but not for 4chan.

>I can't access pomf.cat

Other pomf clones works fine.

How can I troubleshoot this?

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>>57355774
People just install what they see on other screenfetches.

>>57355821
>>>/a/

>>57354753
halp

>>57355821
hey Anon. I can help.

Troubleshooting steps:

What about curl?
Is there any output at all? Define "hanging".
Are you seeing this happen only for certain hosts?
does the problem happen if you use direct IP and not DNS name?
Did you update any network settings (either on your computer, or router) or drivers recently?

>>57355774
Does bash have autocompletion that disappears once you're done completing?
For example in zsh I can do

cat <TAB>

a list of directories/files will show up, and if I press do<TAB> the previous list will disappear and be replaced with all the directories/files starting with "do".
Last time I used bash, the autocompletion was permanently printed on screen. Is there a way to change this behavior?
Can bash provide fuzzy autocompletion? (eg typing /t/d/f<TAB> autocompletes to /tmp/dir/file)
Also is there a way to have your prompt change color depending on the vi mode you're in? I managed to do that on zsh but I'm not sure I could do that in bash.

Please note I'm not saying that zsh is better than bash, in fact if you tell me these features are available in bash I'll abandon zsh on the spot (it's a bit too bloated for my tastes).

>>57355821
Does your ISP support ipv6? If it doesn't and you have ipv6 enabled in your system (dns and shit like that) it might be the cause of the issue.

>>57354753
You could do something really simple like:

[root@smoked ~]# FILE=$(cat file); echo $FILE
butts


Or even better
[root@smoked ~]# while read file ; do echo $file ; done < file
butts

>>57356010
replace "echo" with your command, sorry, should have been more clear about that since i dont know your skill level

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>>57354985
Formatting.

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>>57355930

>What about curl?
I dunno, gimme an example

>Is there any output at all? Define "hanging".
hanging = does nothing for a while then return an error or I have to cancel

>Are you seeing this happen only for certain hosts?
these are the only problems that I noticed

>does the problem happen if you use direct IP and not DNS name?
I'm a tech illiterate I have no idea what this means.

>Did you update any network settings (either on your computer, or router) or drivers recently?
I had to reset my modem once to change my ip but that's it.

>>57356005

Interesting. I tested ipv6 and looks like I don't have support (despite my ISP saying the opposite and my modem is configured to use it as well).

Should I disable it?

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Reminder that Debian is the overall best distro
1. Respects your freedom first and foremost, according to a social contract.
https://www.debian.org/social_contract
2. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to non-free software, if you want/need it.
3. Stable by default.
4. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to a rolling release, if you want/need it.
5. Has a constitution to give no single entity too much power over decisions.
https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution
6. One of the eldest and most influential distros to this day.
7. Harbors SJWs

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how does this make you feel?

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>>57356113
Installing. Ubuntu here I come!!!
>why is ubuntu's 2 finger scroll flipped?

>>57356177
You could try, yeah. I had a similar issue on windows, turns out my DNS server was serving ipv6 addresses and my ISP didn't support ipv6. Disabling it solved the issue.

>>57356177
Did not realize you were tech illiterate. Welp.

Yeah, ipv6 support is spotty. Good thinkin', other anon.

>>57356189
offended that someone is using that color scheme

>>57356189
Took me a second to realize why it was using 7GB of ram, ffs

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>>57356189
it makes me feel like I need more ram

But jokes aside, it's cool, but not very useful or beneficial compared to what existed before it. All of these were around before "The Windows Subsystem for Linux":
- cross compiling
- virtual machines
- ported binaries (Cygwin, MinGW, Gow, etc)

Compared to all of those things, the WSFL doesn't have much utility to it besides pure novelty.

>>57356199
I'm sure you can change this somewhere.

>desktop connected to speakers
>want to use it as music player
>want to control it from my laptop
Best software for achieving this? Some more elegant way than Teamviewer? Music played from Spotify, youtube or locally from the desktop

>>57356335
msys2 even has pacman

But I guess if you want Ubantoo packages without much hassle it's good

>>57356366
mpd + httpd server + ympd

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its time

>>57356366
It pains me to suggest this but pulseaudio. I don't know if MPD can stream from spotify and youtube.

I currently have lubuntu installed on a really ancient laptop (2006) which I am using as a pseudo htpc and is hooked up to my tv.
I was considering installing debian on it since I have gained much more experience with linux after dual booting on my main desktop, but I had a few questions about whether or not I should proceed with this.
1. Will debian be significantly lighterweight/faster than lubuntu?
2. Does debian give me the option to install a DE/WM during the installation process, or do I have to set that up later?
3. If the laptop is hooked up to a tv and I want to extend the laptop screen to the tv, can this be done with a simple wm like opebox? Some extra information is that I cannot clone displays because the laptop has a different aspect ratio than the tv, so it makes watching movies look really bad.

>>57350969
nice shitpost

I unironically used gentoo for a few years but I kept experiencing sound issues with any kernels after 4.6.4 and I was too lazy to do anything about it because it happened to coincide with me becoming interested in Slackware again (Slackware had been my first distro). I've been on Slack for a while now, but I still check new kernels on gentoo to see of the sound is no longer retarded

>>57356432
Why can't you just use your slackware's kerbl .config on Gentoo?

>>57351073
nano very clearly has a chord in the corner for quit: ctrl+x.

vim tells you to do :q when you try ctrl+c, which should be your first guess if you haven't used vi before assuming you're not 2 days into your loonix adventure

and your window manager is responsible for adding the x to the corner you actual retard. do you think every program made for windows programs in the fucking close button?

I'm not the guy you replied to btw he seemed somewhat autistic

>>57356189
Proof that Canonical is hurting the Linux community a lot. People ask:
>Why install Linux of I can have it on Windows with Ubuntu?

For someone about to completely replace his laptop (my only computer atm) with a Linux distro for the first time, what would be a good distro to start?
It's a older computer, a HP shitbox with a Core i3-3227U with 4gb DDR3, and games aren't a concern.
From what I looked up KDE seems to be a more appealing desktop for me.

I know there are thousands of similar questions online but I wanted a more personalized answer.

>>57356546
BTW Ubuntu is hideous.

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>>57356542
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57356546
I would go with the KDE flavors of Mint or Majaro.

>>57356542
linus doesn't give a wet shit about freedom, he even dropped gplv3 to allow linux in jailed hardware

>>57356413
>>57356390
thank you

>>57356565
just replace unity lol

>>57356588
Manjaro looks kinda cool. Have tried Mint in a VM and for some reason it doesn't like my hardware. It's always a bitch to get sound.

>>57356617
>lol
>>>/facebook/

>>57356619
mint and manjaro are both made by incompetend devs
don't use a fork of a fork of a fork
either use arch or debian or you loose

>>57356629
friendly reminder this is the friendly gnu/linux thread and not a place for anons such as yourself to be sassy @ others
thank you and have a good day

>>57356649
>implying using arch doesn't turn you into a looser also

>>57356569
>>>/r/eddit

>>57356649
Arch seems like a bitch to set up, I'm new to Linux. Is Debian any simpler?

>>57356675
Yes, it is simpler. It has a graphical installer.

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Alright I disabled all ipv6 stuff.

Things that work
>mpv -ytdl
>youtube-dl
>script to download all files from 4chan

Things that don't
>wget
>pomf.cat

>>57356649
Majaro is Arch with a graphical installer. Stay mad, autist.

@57356188
>7. Harbors SJWs
yeah, can confirm

>>57356685
Will look into it.
Thanks

>tfw scrubs try some shit as their first distro and hate it instead of just going for the most simple option
scrubs can never make their own decisions, it's the collapse of society

>>57356719
And what would be the most simple option? Ubuntu just looks hideous

>>57356692
Have you rebooted your OS, flushed your DNS cache?
If yes, what does

nslookup pomf.cat

returns?

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>>57356675
If you are new, use Ubuntu. If you don't like unity, use Mate or anything else (maybe KDE).
Ubuntu is the defacto babby distro. When you're save enough you can switch to Debian or Arch.

>>57356703
Manjaro is Arch plus even more incompetence. Pic related. Do you think it's a good idea to run a distro made by people who give such advices?

>>57356711
7 is an ironic point because many people like to claim that Debian is somehow largely affected by SJWs.

Every sufficiently large community has extremists, not just Debian's.

>>57356742
Kubuntu is Ubuntu just with KDE right?

>>57356712
ignore 99% of what those autists just told you.
Calling manjaro arch is like saying Mint is Debian, which is completely wrong. Also, in most cases, the more forked version of an os you use the worse it is (unless it's made for a very specific niche).
For this reason, I would recommend you to try Xubuntu as your first distro. It is a lighterweight version of ubuntu unity, and also just werks out of the box.
After you've spent time becoming familiar with how to use linux as a regular user, then you can install debian. If you are feeling a bit ambitious and you are really interested in learning about linux, you could even go with debian as your first distro.
Just be aware that upon installation you will have to spend much more time downloading/installing packages, and setting up different programs than you would have if you had simply stuck with a *buntu.

>>57356732
distros dont work like windows
what you see with windows is what you get, no changing unless you use some super shady shit
if you dont like how ubuntu looks, you can easily change the DE, apply some themes, change icons, etc to your liking

I can only recommend ubuntu to beginners until they get this new way of thinking into their brains, after that, they're free to roll with whatever distro and de their hearts desire

>>57356752
Only some retards in this thread claim Debian is SJW as reaction to the BTFO pipermail. Literally nowhere else on the internet you read anything about SJW behavor. The devs maybe just added that harrassment site to silence some annoying gurl (just like mpv removed slave to silence all the "issues").
>>57356759
Yes

Cool going with Kubuntu!
Thanks, the friendly thread is still autism but much nicer than the rest :^)

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Canonical and Amazon's cocks taste so good!

>>57356838
You know, we're actually intelligent grown ups, but when no newcomer is around asking questions, we get bored and start circlehating about the best distro. Feel free to come back if you have further questions.

>>57356857
tbqh adapta and paper will always be better than numix

>>57356876
numix doesnt support the version of gtk currently running

>>57356594
He made Linux GPL because he cares about the workflow free software allows.

He doesn't give a shit about freetard autism because freetard autism is still autism.

>>57356865
Yeah seems like it. I never felt the need to use Linux but since I started considering changing career from networking to cybersecurity I really need to get on it.

>Fresh install of Ubuntu
What should i install?

>>57357003
What do you need?

>>57356857
Is there another numix gtk color offered. I know they have a script to change their folder colors on github but the satanic red of the gtk kills it for me.

>>57356734

yes
I tested with opendns and googledns and works fine
but I still cannot access pomf.cat
ping pomf.cat returns nothing

>>57357033
What does nslookup show?

>>57357021
nothing right now.

>>57357024
just manually change it to a color you like

>>57357061
Well if you need nothing install nothing.

>>57357061
are you a programmer? if so get around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make

>>57351077
Dubz confirmed for /pol/

>>57357085
>are you a programmer?
i'm a /g/ shitposter

>>57357110
ok in that case install a mac theme, and pick a font that is unbearable as fuck, but also weeb as fuck
then save a couple anime images
when the next screenshot/desktop thread rolls around, you're all set for (You)s

>>57357132
will do.

someone post that wget line that downloads all files from a thead please

>>57357234

wget -nv -e robots=off -rHDi.4cdn.org -nc -nd -ERs.jpg,html <thread>

>>57357234
>>57357289
You can basically remove the -nv to make it even shorter, but it makes the output more spammy.

>>57354550

While all the decent OSes have an X on the corner. Just comes to show how shitty GNU/Linux is.

>>57357335
-nc isn't really necessary either

>>57357391
Well it's useful when you run the command more than once to update your shit. Otherwise you have shitloads of dupes.

Debian Stable was a bit too out of date/slow for me. Arch is a bit too fast for me. Should I go back through the pain of installing Gentoo again and use that, or is there something else you dudes would recommend?

>>57357422
Use Debian Sid (upsteam packages just like Arch). You can run apt-listbugs to check if everything is fine and upgrade while feeling save.

>>57357461
why doesn't arch provide something like apt-listbugs? why do we need to check the website everday?

>>57357461
Ah neat, I did not know about that. Portage had a message system for package migration that I really liked. Unstable was where I found myself installing as much as I could from so I'll give that a go, thanks anon

>>57357478
Bloat.

>>57357511
>bloat
>all kernel modules enabled
>packages bloated with src, headers, docs, etc
>bloat
autism

>>57355821
who is that cute?

... and now for something completly different:
>>57357502

>>57357502

>>57357502

>>57357541
>>>/r/
>>>/a/
>>>/out/
>>>/trash/

>>57357511
Arch is really not small at all, desu

>>57354767
>>57354985
>>57356113
>>57356199
>>57356405
>>57356857
>all this because of one bait poster
/g/ is an amazing place

>>57356838
>using the smiley with a carat nose