/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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First for Debian best distro
1. Respects your freedom first and foremost, according to a social contract.
https://www.debian.org/social_contract
2. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to non-free software, if you want/need it.
3. Stable by default.
4. Allows you to knowingly opt-in to a rolling release, if you want/need it.
5. Has a constitution to give no single entity too much power over decisions.
https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution
6. One of the eldest and most influential distros to this day.
7. Harbors SJWs

>>57357576
Stop already. We hate shills.

>>57357583
>stallman is not a philosophically pure person. he follows his ideals when convenient, and ignores them or slightly alters them when the conflict isn't worth it.
you can say whatever you want about stallman but this is simply not true.
He's autistic when it comes to following his personal moral GNU/code.

>>57357583
>>57357599
>posting stale old cancerous reddit pasta over and over for the sole purpose of getting (You)s
a) consider suicide
b) do something useful with your life

How much faster would xfce debian be over lubuntu?
Also, does the debian iso have options for installing a wm/de or will I have to set that up after installation?

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>>57357502
>tfw it's a real quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9mXyakv2i8
based RMS

>>57357655
Not very, I'm not sure about ubuntu specifically as it may have extra programs and start up scripts, but LXDE and XFCE are extremely close in their basic performance. The full install disk does have those options, but you might get a bit of extra shit you don't need/want.

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My new toy (lego ev3) runs linux.

Which is ridiculous since there's absolutely no support for it on this OS (OS X and Windows only).

Hopefully I'll get some old sd card so I can boot debian on it and get ssh access

>>57357674
>LXDE and XFCE are extremely close in their basic performance
Citation?

I just installed gentoo.
Does it get comfy?
For now
>hours to compile Firefox
>still no sound
>systemd dependencies everywhere. I feel like a vegan trying to avoid it
>still "I don't know what I'm doing" feel

But I have to admit, what runs runs smoothly as fuck.

I consider getting back to arch for short term comfiness but I want to be part of the Gentoo meme club so I don't feel like coming back despite the efforts.

How to convince myself to keep on the road?

>>57357747
>gentoo
>systemd
either bait or i don't know what.

openrc is one of the main reasons why would anyone use gentoo

>>57357747
Post pictures, you are a liar.

>>57357596
I just filter it at this point.

>>57357728
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-FjMWPHq2SpmV6Z3yK35ScVYOG-o7CD9aJn5GSD42Ew/edit

Benchmarks from a gamer, but includes memory usage at idle.

https://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu

Less than a quarter of a gigabyte of difference here. Which holds to the previous statistic.

https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops-part-2/

XFCE still a little over LXDE. Seems consistent.

So unless you're running a machine that probably should not be running a desktop in the first place, both LXDE and XFCE are going to have very similar, if not the same performance.

>>57357759
I am using openrc. But systemd is everywhere. As an example, I saw a systemd dependency while emerge -av xfce4-meta

>>57357810
Memory usage doesn't correlate directly with performance.

>>57357820
learn to USE flags

>>57357820
GNOME is also famously systemd dependent.

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>>57357665
People should ALWAYS use their brain when it comes to RMS quotes or email caps. There are a lot of fakes around and people still think it's some real shit.

How to discover fakes mails for ex.? RMS writes in emacs, following the oldschool fromatting (80 characters max line width, 2 spaces after sentence, 1 after word), etc. If you see a mail like pic related, it's fake.

>>57357829
Go away tripfag cancer, nobody likes you.

>>57357829
Very little else does. Your HDD speed is going to affect both desktops equally, neither are going to do any damage to your CPU as neither use any sort of rendered OpenGL layer like the default Ubuntu desktop and KDE can/do. There's not anything else you should really be paying attention to.

>>57357850
Dude is fucking retarded.

Like those guys that drop retarded facts that are wrong in casual conversation.

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>>57357840
For comparsion, a random real mail.

>>57357830
Am I doomed to openbox?
I remembered that installating either xfce or GNOME magically fixed my sound config in arch and wanted to try the same for my gentoo.

>>57357860
Whatever, any memes or shitposts are welcome at 4chan, tripfags aren't and belong to reddit. Fuck off.

>>57357883
Maybe you would feel more comfortable reading comments that you can affect actual negativity in the form of a downvote, doesn't seem like you feel comfortable reading posts on 4chan.

What should I absolutely get after installing eOS ?

>>57357502
install gentoo

I want to install linux on an old laptop.
It has a first generation Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM and one of those shitty Intel integrated graphics.
I'm torn between Ubuntu MATE (I like gnome 2, it's lightweight, ubuntu has all the packages I could ever want, LTS until 2019) or Linux Mint, which I don't know much about.
Which one should I go for?

>>57357902
stop derailing the thread and fuck off already

>>57357289

took 8 mins to download 49MB of files
is this right?

>>57357866
The other email you're responding to is real.

>>57357911
Stallman doesn't approve.

>>57357910
A sex change, you massive pussy

>>57357576
Fuck off, SJWbian shill

>>57357869
Nah, there are tons of other good WMs and there's also some available older versions of DEs that run on OpenRC. Again, set your use flag to take away systemd to get more options and read the gentoo wiki about some of the choices you have.

Your sound was probably fixed by pulseaudio, but it's a nightmare on Gentoo and I highly recommend you checkout alsa-utils, open alsamixer and see if pressing M (mute/unmute) on the channels and bringing them up helps. If not, there's a wiki page on asoundrc and alsa list.

>>57357967
Lol, Debian works fine despite the SJW boogeyman. I'm installing it on my laptop as I type this.

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Daily reminder that women matter.
http://archwomen.org/

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How do I make a bootable USB drive from the Linux ISO?

>>57357990
Linux provides no ISOs.

>>57357990
On Linux: use DD.
On Windows: use LiLi.

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>>57357850
I don't think anyone ITT has a likeable personality

>>57357981
>Debian
>Works

>>57357986
It's unofficial and dead.

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>>57357986
>all genders

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>>57357990
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>57357986
Daily reminder to check male programmers privilege checklist

>>57357990
Install ROSA image writer

>>57358014
What is this?

>>57358006
Ya for Windows. Lili looks good. I've used Rufus in the past, that still viable?

>>57357990
dd if=my.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=number
sync
reboot
f12f12f12f12
HDD2

and there you go

>>57358032
apt fucking up, as always

>>57358014
Yes, debian works, on my machine at least.

>>57358044
same here

>>57358036
Rufus is good.

>>57358044
Until you have to reinstall debian again

>>57358036
I don't know, I've never tried it. But LiLi is very easy to use and lets you keep on using your drive for other files.

>>57358041
>Not checking the output apt

A newfag can do this a seasoned user can't.

>>57358059
I'm installing it now. Pretty smooth so far.

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>>57358058
>>57358065
Cool, thx

>>57358070
>checking the output apt
checking what? apt fucking up the desktop?
>>57358075
until you install plebian next time

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

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>>57357576
Debian has given NOTHING back to the Linux community but for SJWS

>>57358097
This is my "next time" though. But why would I need to install it again?

>>57358100
I used to like Crunchbang, I don't know if Crunchband++ is as good.
You could checkout xubuntu/lubuntu too.

>>57358112
Same reason why you removed your previous debian installation

>>57358097
When you use autoremove it's list what will it remove.

>>57358100
Debian Sid. Or if you're bloddy new, go with Ubuntu.

>>57358100
Arch

>>57358121
Yet I haven't run into any issues in my next installation as you claim.

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How'd I do /g/entoomen?

>>57358118
bunsenlabs is the new crunchbang after it died, crunchbang++ is afaik just a alternative project by some random fag
>>57358128
he said lightweight

>>57358143
Arch is lightweigh

>>57358141
Why are you on an outdated kernel running Gentoo?

>>57358136
because it's been half an hour and you haven't even finished your half assed freetard wannabe distro yet

>>57358153
arch is bloated, packages are twice as huge as on debian for example

>>57358118
>Crunchbang
>user-friendly

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>>57358168

>>57358111
alien and lilo were maintained by debian maintainers. Lilo is now a slackware thing. Alien was cucked by the systemd terror, and promised to leave, but maybe didn't happened. 2 distro on the meme is debian based though.

woah I sure have some fans don't I

>>57358175
>what is package splitting
your new is showing

>>57358173
What wasn't user-friendly in your opinion? It even had a graphical package manager.

>>57358154
I just reused my kernel from Arch. I'll probably build a new one tonight

>>57358167
No it hasn't. I'm at the part where you select and install software. The only "problem" I ran into was loading wifi firmwares, but all I had to do was copy them to a usb and plug it in.

>>57358189
>what is package splitting
Enjoy your broken packages

>>57358196
Freetard distros, everyone

>>57358182
So nothing

>>57358100
this is the best pepe i've seen in a long time

>>57358188
Rest assured no one here likes you.

>>57358215
If you are looking for a SJW hugbox this isn't the place, debqueer

>>57358199
>>what is package splitting
>Enjoy your broken packages
Why aren't you running a statically-linked distro?

>>57358208
>Freetard distros, everyone
Not sure how I'm supposed to respond to this, I guess we're done.

>>57358229
I don't have autism

>>57358199

how does it feel to be the thread's worst cancer?

>>57358234
>>57358238
>I got owned: the post

>>57358208
Nice denial.

>>57358227
What did he meme by this

>>57358247
>denial
No? lol

WHAT did debian do? Wayland development? Hotpatching? KCraft? Any desktop environment? Snaps? Flatpack? Sandboxie? OpenZFS?

I know:
>anti harassment wiki

>>57358245
Seriously, please fuck off. This is a friendly thread. This means actual useful informations, not stupid memes and false informations you're spreading here every day. You're pretty much killing the thread. Newcomers will just turn 360° and walk away and linuxmasterrace memers feel at home. Seriously, kill yourself.

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>tfw still cannot access pomf.cat

so... a-any good pomf clone alternative?

>>57358278
>Newcomers will just turn 360° and walk away and linuxmasterrace memers feel at home.
I don't think your excessive debian shilling doesn't help.

Debian is a terrible distro, due to it's freetard nature and apt autism

>>57358278
pretty much this

>>57358278
This

>>57358290
https://alternativeto.net/software/pomf-se/

>>57357978
My issue with the sound was about the Intel hda. Why is the sound always the most clusterfuck point in every fresh install tho? Everybody complained about alsa for years maybe decade but it still is the same old stuff.

I'll set -systemd in my USE flag.

>>57358294
>>57358300
This thread was going well until debqueers arrived last month. Want proof?

>>57358317
Linux sound has always been awkward and downright atrocious. You'll need to enable the kernel modules for intel HDA, and then set it in asoundrc as a default

>>57358319
You known, if you don't stop, the good guys who help people will just stop aguing with you and leave the thread like 90% of old /g/ already did. Shove your debian hate memes up your ass, noboy wants to read it the 100000th time

>>57358319
Uh oh someone got #TRIGGERED

;-)

>>57358344
Thank you

>>57358278
>>57358294
>>57358300
Just filter him.

let's play a group building activity to get back on the friendly scale.

Distro you're on now
Distro you started out on
Distro's you've tried.

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Why is USB storage support so utterly abysmal on Linux? I had to disable UAS for my external USB 3.0 drive to stop it from timing out during large file transfers and making the drive's SMART panic. The kernel smugly decides to reset the interface if it detect I/O errors, when the I/O errors are caused by the kernel or driver itself. Now my speeds are shit because using BOT instead. Windows doesn't have this problem, so it isn't an issue with the external controller itself.

>>57358404
>Debian stable
>Mint
>Fedora, OpenSUSE, Gentoo, Arch, Ubuntu, Puppy.
still failing to see a reason to use anything other than debian

>>57358350
1. I was actually one of the very first OPs of /flt/. However the OP got changed multiple times but it was not in the installgentoo wiki back then. I have been contributing to this thread for quite a while until newbabbies such as yourself came to know about Linux
2. People left because debqueers felt like shilling for their distro for free and meme about other distros, especially Arch and Ubuntu.
3. Even after all your FUD Ubuntu and Arch is STILL the most popular distros in /g/
Ususally debqueers shit up a thread like this:
1. Post this >>57358100
2. Archfags (including me - guilty charged) posts >>57358128
3. something something i don't know how to set kernel parameters
4. pipermail antisystemd bullcrap
5. SJWbian posts

Fuck off
>>57358396
Does it trigger u?

>>57358439
Debian is a useless distro

>>57358404
>Distro you're on now
debian sid
>Distro you started out on
ubuntu
>Distro's you've tried.
arch, manjaro, crunchbang, trisquel, parabola, slackware, maybe more, but just tried in a vm

>>57358404
>back on the friendly scale
What's a friendly scale?
Lets play spot the pajeet that doesn't know how to use euphemisms.

when did ubuuunu drop "apt-get" and start recommending "apt"

>>57358404
>Distro you're on now
was on gentoo until a few hours ago, now ubuntu
>Distro you started out on
slackware
>Distro's you've tried.
slack* , gentoo funtoo, linux mint, centOs, fedora, oobuhntwo, Hannah Montana Os, #!

>>57358473
ubuntu didn't drop apt-get, apt has been there for a long time

>>57358473
why use apt-get anyway? apt does same thing just for removing/installing packages

>>57358473
>when did ubuuunu drop "apt-get" and start recommending "apt"
15.10. Better than aptitude, and better than apt-get for general stuff.

>>57358404
>Distro you're on now

Gentoo. I'm no expert, but it does everything I want now.

>Distro you started out on

Debian. Had a lot of problems with wifi firmware at first but loved fixing it and soon was hooked.

Debian

>Distros you've tried

Debian then gentoo then debian now gentoo.

>>57358404
Distro you're on now
arch
Distro you started out on
manjaro
Distro's you've tried.
-

>>57358491
>>57358499
just a change of habit. my fingers know to go for the hyphen after typing 'apt'

>>57358404
>datamining
nice try NSA

>>57358470
let's play spot the attention whore.

Oh found one
(hint: uses a trip)

>>57358404
>Distro you're on now
Just installed Gentoo. Feels good man
>Distro you started out on
Jewbuntu
>Distros you've tried
Mint, #!, Debian minimal, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Slackware, Arch, and also FreeBSD and DragonflyBSD (server runs FreeBSD now)

>>57358562
Newfag, BE/4wes0mE is a very Linux friendly tripfag

And probably better at Linux than you

>>57358579
It doesn't matter, we talk to a person instead of responding to content. tripfags are cancer and belong to reddit.

>>57358603
You can hide trips and names

>>57358404
>Distro you're on now
Debian Sid
>Distro you started out on
Ubuntu
>Distro's you've tried.
Used for over a month: The above two, Manjaro, and the other two branches of Debian if those count (stable and testing)
Used very shortly to try out: Fedora, OpenSUSE, Arch via Architect Installer, ElementaryOS

I would use Gentoo, but I don't have the patience to set it up, and I want my OS to be easy to install.

>>57358404
>Distro you're on now
fedora
>Distro you started out on
knoppix
>Distro's you've tried.
I've hopped so much. surprisingly never tried ubuntu until last week.

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>>57358603
I apologize for not bonding with you on a personal level.

>>57358579
are you his body gaurd or do you just like riding dicks?

>>57358686
Why do you care so much about your identity? Why not posting anonymously like everyone else? What's the point exept attention whoring/being annoying?

>>57358698
The only one riding dicks is ur mum XDDDD

How come SUSE has the best marketing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww

>>57358698
he doesn't care about what he is posting, it just needs to trigger people so he gets some you's

>>57358707
I am posting anonymously.

>Distro you're on
Antergos

>Distro you started on
Debian

>Distro's you've tried
Ubuntu, fedora, arch, gentoo, Mageia and OpenSUSE

>>57358750
Nobody who has used gentoo before would fall for some shitty installer distro like antergos.

>>57358782
Maybe he got a job unlike you

does raspberry pi have a wayland desktop ready it or is it still xorg?

>>57358800
why do you come to these threads?

>>57358812
just you annoy you personally.

>>57358800
see >>57358728
Guess he's right.

>>57358812
Cathartic chemotherapy.

>>57358812
See >>57358440

Hello friends, I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago, and I am enjoying it so far. Funny enough, I've had to use terminal and synaptic package manager more often than anticipated because Ubongo is too hand-holding.

I wanted to ask, what is the equivalent of MS Paint on Ubuntu? I have tried Mypaint and Gimp, but they are more advanced than I need. I need something I can very quickly pick up on how to use it.

Pretty please, respond

>>57358885
Kolourpaint
$sudo apt install kolourpaint4

>>57358885
pinta

>>57358885
pinta is pretty lightweight, don't fall for the kolourpaint meme, it pulls lots of KDE depencies

which distro would be better for a server, ubuntu or arch? or if there are better suggestions - post then and why

>>57358916
ubuntu server, debian, centos

>>57358916
Ubuntu is good for servers

>>57358911
>dependencies
He'd care if he's running on a 64GiB hard drive

>>57358916
CentOS is good, Debian works great too.

>>57358916
centos

>>57358916
I wouldn't hire anyone who runs an arch server. Servers need to be stable. Either go debian stable or ubuntu lts server, maybe centos also.

What Dustro is best for general IT work in a small-medium buisness?

>>57358965
any

>>57358965
*buntu, SUSE, Fedora

But RHEL is the best

>>57358965
ubuntu
fedora maybe

>>57358978
Holy shit, stop already faggot.

>>57358992
Get the fuck out

>>57358965
this>>57358976

>>57357599
based

>>57358965
if you're new, go with ubuntu, else any distro
>>57358978
>But RHEL is the best
at this point I just filter you

>>57358290
It's werks.
Anyway...
https://u.teknik.io/

>>57359013
RHEL and SUSE enterprise Linux has official support.

Not that a NEET would know

hello friends.
i am planning a secret santa gift for a friend of mine, i want to set up a riced out anime (cheap) thinkpad for him with some loli stickers on it and such. What is the best distro for general ricing on an old machine?

>>57359013
Don't you realize that he just posts whatever will trigger people?

>>57359028
gentoooooooooo

>>57359028
Debian minimal

>>57359028
any

>>57359028
Or Bunsenlabs

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>>57358898

this thread sure is busy today

>>57359028
see >>57359060
You can rice any distro.
>anime
install arch/gentoo

Why do GNOME applications ignore Xfce compositor settings (e.g. disable shadows under windows)?

>>57359069
i hope it dies soon and next wo'nt start with arch v debian shilling

>>57359000
this why do >>57358992 shit these threads up

>>57359082
>why does linux ignore windows file permissions?

>>57358911
>>57358900
thank you anons

>>57359082
because they're 2 different DE's with settings individual to eachother

>>57359065
Why does it actually matter? You probably will install Qt sooner or later anyway

HECK, if he's running ubuntu, he's ALREADY got Qt and webkit installed

>>57359102
Also what he dose NOT have is libmono, which pinta requires

>>57359102
Wasn't really an argument against KDE its just a satirical comic based on the dependency argument.

That said I'm not super fond of KDE because of the sheer number of packages.

>>57359136
which DEs do you like

After i

emerge gentoo-sources
emerge genkernel
genkernel all

It says there is no Makefile in /usr/src/linux.
All that is in /usr/src/linux is a symlink that dosent seem to go any where("too many levels of symbolic links).

Where did i go wrong?

>>57359136
>>57359125
>>57359102
Get a room faggots. It's disgusting to watch.

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>>57359153
>debqueer getting triggered
here just to trigger you further

>>57359092
Nice dream.

>>57359096
Because ms don't respects unix file permission either.

>>57359150
did you check the useflags? make sure to do emerge --ask <package> so you can see the use flags for the packages, it may be a use flag breaking it.

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will GNU/Linux help me cope with my anxiety and crippling depression?

>>57359096
Doesn't answer my question. And you're wrong, too, dumbass.
>>57359101
I mean standalone applications I can install on Ubuntu, e.g. GNOME calculator. They don't ignore my system theme or window and icon settings, but all have shadows under them.

>>57359150
install gentoo, noob

>>57359188
No. Play sports and do some travelling

>>57359188
yes

>>57359188
Yes. Install Linux Mint, it just werks

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>>57359188
Only if you leave 4chin.

>>57359097
Pinta is crap.

Should i be excellent in math to able to contribute to gimp?

>>57359188
No, it'll make it much worse. But you'll feel like a l33t haxx0r and not want to kill yourself as much.

>>57359147
Not really partial to any of the big ones. I don't use them. Gnome or Unity are probably the most retard proof.

>>57359184
I have not installed any packages outside of the inital setup, i am attempting to install gentoo via liveusb

>>57359188
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/a/

>>57359249
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/r/eddit

>>57359259
>>>>>/out/

>>57359259
this is implications beyond human comprehension dude

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>>57359239
gtfo tripfag cancer

I have three terminal windows opening automatically on login, starting in the same directory. Where would be the place that this is configured so I can stop it?

>>57359273
>>>/4/4chan

>>57359280
xinitc
bashrc
de/wm startup file

>>57359280
xprofile
zshrc
fishrc
profile

>>57359280
crontab

>>57359280
you got a ghost m8y

>>57359280
chances are good that you got hacked
type this:

cat ~/.bash_history

if some of your keystrokes show up, you're infected

I have to manually turn on my Ethernet interface whenever I boot CentOS
Anyone knows how to make it on by default?

>>57359418
No, now go away

>>57359418
Crontab or
Systemd (if you have it installed)

Does anyone have the test to see if your kernel is vulnerable to dirty cow?

>>57359418
check if ONBOOT=yes
in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*

>>57359444
How about giving him actual advice how to configure his shit instead of that newfaggot tier workarounds?

>>57359150
you have to sert the symlink with eselect

# eselect kernel list

# eselect kernel set [number]

>>57359453
If you're using CentOS and RedHat servers, here's a script provided by RedHat for RHEL to test for the Dirty COW vulnerability:

$ wget https://access.redhat.com/sites/default/files/rh-cve-2016-5195_1.sh

>>57359468
I don't know if he has systemd is installed.
How about giving him the actual advice yourself instead of suggesting me how to advise?

>>57359479
>tfw thread cancer is actually red hat cancer

>>57359391
>>57359362
>>57359348
>>57359318
>>57359287

Turns out it was cached in ~/.cache/sessions/ so I deleted it

>>57359506
tip: if you don't know he answer don't respond

>>57359453
Download and compile the PoC then run the following commands

curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dirtycow/dirtycow.github.io/master/dirtyc0w.c > dirtyc0w.c
sudo -s
echo This is a TEST > foo
chmod 0404 foo
ls -lah foo
-r—–r– 1 root root 19 Oct 20 15:23 foo
cat foo
gcc -pthread dirtyc0w.c -o dirtyc0w
./dirtyc0w foo m00000000000000000
Finally check if the file foo is modified:
If you get this:

root@server# cat /home/some_user/foo
m00000000000000000
Then you are VULNERABLE.

If you get this

root@server# cat /home/some_user/foo
This is a test file
You are SAFE



keep updating your linux kernels

>>57359477
Im following the gentoo wiki

eselect kernel set 1
/usr/src/linux exists but is not a synlink

>>57359530
Funny

How can I know if he's got systemd installed or not?

Any Debian users around? Is there any reason to use aptitude instead of just apt?

>>57359564
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eason+to+use+aptitude+instead+of+just+apt

>>57359538
try removing /usr/src/linux and either try eselect again or set the symlink manually or reemerge gentoo-sources with the symlink USEflag

>>57359546
a normal person would just ask

>>57359612
Why are you not asking him instead?

>>57359564
it is better at resolving dependencies, on stable it won't matter but on sid you might have to deal with it. just make sure to stick to either apt-get/apt or aptitude, don't use both on one system.
more info:
https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement
Debian administrators handbook

>>57359628
Ok thanks.

>>57359534
Excellent. I just patched the kernel a few minutes ago and it said m00000 the first time. I wondered why and remembered I had to reboot after updating kernel and it didn't say m0000 this time. Thanks.

I'm using Arch GNU/Linux. Recently wanted to switch from nvidia (proprietary) to nouveau. I uninstalled the nvidia package and installed the nouveau and mesa stuff. I said yes to replacing the nvidia versions of stuff. I deleted an nvidia-related file in my xorg.conf.d that was stopping X from starting. I renamed my xorg.conf so it wouldn't be loaded. I got X to start. However, any login shell now shows this error:

[[ ! ]] modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.8.6-1-ARCH

Any idea how I can fix this? I've already tried reinstalled the linux package so the kernel recompiles. That didn't fix it. I've rebooted numerous times. It seems like despite removing the nvidia stuff, it still is trying to use it or something.

>>57360079
Nvidia is still installed
Add it to modprobe blacklist awell

>>57360079
>

[[ ! ]]

please dont tell me arch formats messages like this lol

>>57360274
That's systemd, newfag

>>57360274
>[+] proxylist loaded
>[+] hacking the planet
>[!] error, root required, aborting...
>>57360292
not on my machine

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>>57360274
are you 4 realz?

>>57360328
This post made be thirsty, prost.

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AMD APU or Intel HD 5xx: Which one is better in Linux?

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>been using debian and slackware for years
>decided to try xubuntu

jesus christ i love it. it does everything i want and i do not have to configure anything.

>>57360537
probably intel HD, you will probably need some proprietary software though,

>>57360603
does xbuntu come with the panel on the bottom by default?

>>57358118
This.
>>57358173
My dad was able to figure it out pretty well. The most common keyboard shortcuts are displayed in Conky by default.

>>57358100
My current setup uses a lot of the old CrunchBang configs, although modified a lot over the years. Currently I'd recommend Arch with openbox + tint2. Installers like Architect and Arch Anywhere make installing Arch pretty easy as well.

>>57360705
What's the point in installing arch over any other distro?

Ok I just installed ubuntu on a fresh drive but got this error when booting after restart - error failure reading sector from 'hd0' - with a memory location from the drive as well. I ran a bad block scan from ubuntu live cd and it came back with zero errors. I don't have another drive on me to test it. Any suggestions?

>>57360705
>gets asked for a lightweight distro
>recommends bloated distro
10/10

>>57358404
>Arch GNU/Linux
>Ubuntu I think
>Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian (wheezy, jessie, sid), CrunchBang, ArchBang, Fedora, CentOS, elementaryOS, Mint, possibly a few more I can't remember

>>57360766
everything is bloated except my distro. (-:>

>>57358718
money, I'm guessing

I'm using vim for 2 years now, simply because I don't know how to quit, haha

>>57360819
HAHAH DUDE LMAO XDDDDD

>>57360782
>(-:>
>>>/facebook/

>>57360819
naked_banana.jpg

Anyone remember or have that site that showed what different tech peoples desktops looked like.

I'll trade you this http://www.xwinman.org/

>>57358404
Debian sid
Mint
elementary, mint, trisquel, arch, xubuntu, opensuse, fedora, debian jessie/stretch/sid
>>57360683
yes, but even if it didn't, xfce makes it very easy to customize your panel.

>>57357840
But Steve Jobs didn't invent any of the things the guy said he did. Steve Jobs took the GUI from Xerox. The PC preexisted him. The mouse did too.

>>57357921
Lubuntu

>>57357986
This makes no sense.
If womyn are strong and smart, why can't they get into Arch the same way like the rest of us?
Why do they need a special site with special explanations and special support?
Isn't the very existance of that site "sexist" by their own definition?
How do they not see this simple contradiction?

Honestly, if I were a women I would feel insulted by this.

>>57360920
We will never know. Such sites just send the message out to the world "We, the women, are too stupid and need special threatment.".

>>57360134
>Nvidia is still installed
How do I know which packages to remove? The 'nvidia' package was the first thing I removed.

  ~ pacman -Qs nvidia
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 370.28-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.1.1-2
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 370.28-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia-cg-toolkit 3.1-4
    NVIDIA Cg libraries
local/nvidia-settings 370.28-1
    Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-utils 370.28-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities
local/xf86-video-nouveau 1.0.13-1 (xorg-drivers xorg)
    Open Source 2D acceleration driver for nVidia cards

these are all my packages containing nvidia

not sure which ones are no longer needed or could be causing issues

if possible I'd like to keep nvidia-settings for adjusting resolution and stuff, but if it's going to cause issues, I don't mind removing it.

>>57358290
who is this cute?

>>57360889
I imagine there where a few gov projects before that too that "got lost in a fire".

>>57360731
Breaks less than Debian. Fresher packages. AUR is really helpful. It's been a joy to use after a couple years on Debian. Everything just seems to work better.

>>57360766
what's bloated about arch?

>>57360920
Their point is the "privilegue". If I understand their mentally illness corretly it works like this:

- White, fit male with a job = 100% privs.
- Black, fat women without a job = 0& privs.

Every person with less than 100% privilegues earns special support in exchange to have the same privs that a cis white fit male.

>>57360951
she's from gi(a)rlish number I believe

>>57360944

pacman -R nvidia nvidia-utils nvidia-settings
pacman -S xf86-video-nouveau

then
Put noveau as a loadable module in mkinitcpio
>nvidia-settings
It dosent work with nouveau...

Read the arch wiki beyond this

>>57360958
fish-hook.png
>>57360965
the packaging, making the whole distro bloated as a result. a minimal arch install has almost 250mb while something like debian is closer to 125.

>>57360965
kernel (all modules enabled)
packages (no splitting, packages twice or more as huge as on other distros)

people think arch is lightweight because it comes with a blank base, but that doesn't make a lightweight distro

>>57361003
>but that doesn't make a lightweight distro
yes it does

>>57361045
>pretending to be retarded

>>57360979
>Read the arch wiki beyond this
I was reading it to figure out what packages to install for nouveau before, I just got sorta stuck. I couldn't find much info on people going from nvidia to nouveau. I found a script for switching between the two (I don't really want that), and a lot of people doing the opposite. I found a couple people doing what I was on Ubuntu, but they used a bunch of ubuntu-specific graphical stuff to do it, so I couldn't follow the documentation.

>>57361064
You're trying to say Arch isn't lightweight because there is something slightly more lightweight. You're trying to minmax, when really both Arch and Debian (netinstall) are lightweight.

>>57359534
>updated from 4.5.2 to 4.8.6
>no more moo
i'm happy

>>57361084
twice )or more) as huge != slightly

a complete arch install with ~600 packages fills up more disc space than, for example, a vanilla ubuntu install with ~2k packages, which makes even ubuntu more lightweight than arch

Good bye guys, my girlfriends bull Tyrone just arrived and I have to prep him. Good night.

>>57360977
their mental illness is from being brought up to get rewarded without any work.

>>57361122
how many layers of bait are you trying!!?

have fun senpai!

>>57361073
Yeah, you're full of shit,or you can do babby google fu
The wiki literally hand holds you through switching to and from, as well as having both installed and swapping between them at will.

Uninstall everything you did, remove all edits, and start over. It is not hard.

>>57361113
If this is just because of 'package splitting' as you said, wouldn't the size be the same when all the same packages are installed? Package count will just be higher on a distro doing splitting.

>>57361157
>Uninstall everything you did, remove all edits, and start over. It is not hard.
I setup the proprietary nvidia drive literally a year ago. I don't remember what all packages that involved, and just removing 'nvidia' didn't remove the others. Nouveau is already working, and was before I posted here. I just wanted to get rid of that error I mentioned.

>The wiki literally hand holds you through switching to and from, as well as having both installed and swapping between them at will.

Switching to and from? No. Swapping between them at will? Yes, I mentioned I also saw that.

The nouveau wiki page tells you how to install it. I did that fine. It didn't tell me what to do if I was previously using nvidia. It didn't mention my error at all.

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>>57357502
Hey cunts does linux not recognize dual core processors?

check em

>>57361176
it should just fine

run htop and look at how many threads are shown

>>57361162
The packages aren't splitted into pieces, they are splitted in binary, source code, additonal documents, etc. On Ubuntu (or Debian, or whatever fork for example) you get the binary manpages, all you need, but source code and other stuff have their extra packages. So when you want to compile something for example, you need to install the package-dev package. On Arch you get all thin in one package, which makes it more simple in the developers view, but also more bloated for the average user.

>>57361191
>individual threads
>core

>>57361176
linux regonized them or you wouldn't run your system

>>57360978
Thanks anon!

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>>57361176
>mint

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Why does Arch have such good advertising?

>>57361176
run nproc or lscpu or
less /proc/cpuinfo

>>57361230
>what is irqbalance
Linux doesn't recognize shit.

>>57361242
unsubscribe

when I login to tty1 after booting, screenfetch appears twice despite only being in my .zshrc once. What other files are read on login?

>>57361243
It really does; amazing how its facade of minimalism works so well to hide its bloated kernel and development.

>>57361260
>why bloating up your shell with screenfetch?

>>57361260
>tty1
>not tty7
Might as well use GUI to login if you're bloating yourself with screenfetch

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>>57361260
>no idea how things work
>has zsh installed

>>57361301
>switched to linux for security reasons
>uses chrome

New memes:
>>57361319
>>57361319
>>57361319

>>57361301
well if I were using bash I would check .bash_profile, but I don't have a .zsh_profile that I can find

>>57361299
>>57361274
what's up with this new bloat meme?

>>57361349
the great flame war of oct 2016. Arch Vs Debian ended at a draw but not bantz happen time and again.

Do you guys use anime wallpapers?

>>57361364
Does that mean Arch and Debian are the best distro choices?

>>57361371
I have before, but I can't find many good dual monitor anime wallpapers, so I'm using something fairly generic now.

>>57361379
Yes.

Long story short, Im trying to setup a command to grab the latest version of Joomla from it's Github page:
https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/

So far I have the following:

curl https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/ | awk '/>Joomla! [0-9]/ {print $0}'

Which shows the following:

<a href="/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/tag/3.6.4">Joomla! 3.6.4</a>
        <a href="/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/tag/3.6.3-rc3">Joomla! 3.6.3 Release Candidate 3</a>
        <a href="/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/tag/3.6.3-rc2">Joomla! 3.6.3 Release Candidate 2</a>
        <a href="/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/tag/3.6.3-rc1">Joomla! 3.6.3 Release Candidate 1</a>

However when I add NR==1 to the awk command so I only grab the first line, it shows no results:

curl https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/releases/ | awk '/>Joomla! [0-9]/ NR==1{print $0}'

I know NR==1 works when I dont include />Joomla! [0-9]/ but for some reason its not working when I include it. What am I doing wrong?

>>57361371
no, i use wallpapers i made in blender, gimp and inkscape, but i made animu papes for people before.

>>57361466
This thread is dead, use the new one: >>57361334

>>57360738

Bump for help plz

>>57362164
have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

if there are not bad sectors reported it could have just had a moment of retardation

trying to install some dependencies for a playstation emulator i want to try. i download the snapshots from the AUR, but makepkg hangs on retrieving sources. my internet connection is obviously fine and -syu is talking to whatever servers so pacman seems to be working in a general sense. it just hangs on "Retrieving Sources". what gives?