/pcbg/- PC Building General

>>57348076
I'll try to answer any question you cucks and kikes have about specific hardware or compatibility
Except if you're a Burkina Fasoan. Fuck Burkina Faso and all the limpdicks who live there.

Guide on frames.
https://youtu.be/hjWSRTYV8e0

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The latest version of my design that I'll be ordering in a few weeks time

>Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
>Noctua NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
>MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
>Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card
>Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case
>FSP Group Hydro G 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
>Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
>Acer XG270HU 27.0" 144Hz Monitor

It's been through a number of changes since I first posted about 3 threads ago, but I think I've got it to where I want it to be.

>Yes I want a 6700K
>Yes I want the 1080 and not the 1070
>Yes my MOBO is MSI and not Asus
>Yes I want 8GB or RAM and not 16GB you memeing fucks
>Yes I only have a 240GB SSD (inb4 cuck)

pic related, the case

RX 480 vs GTX 1060

Wat buy?

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>>57348153
>his future PC has as much RAM as VRAM

>>57348153
You bought into the hyperthreading meme why wouldn't you buy into the 16GB meme? It's the cheaper meme
~Some guy using 9GB right now

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>>57348185
This

t. using 9 GB as well right now, and on i5

Was going to try to wait until cyber monday to upgrade things, but my laptop screen broke and no way on hell am I going a month without a computer (only have laptop right now).

Thinking about getting one of the ultrabook things, but I'm wary about them. Anyone have any opinions? Found one for about $800 with a a 500gb solid state (or 1T normal hardrive), and intel 520 or something. Don't know much about, what would you do for laptop primarily used to watch video and shitpost?

>>57348182
>falling for the 16 GB RAM meme
You only need more than 8 if you run multiple monitors.

>>57348303
You mean... you don't???

>>57348308
No because I'm not an autist.

>>57348317
enjoy having to ctrl + alt all the time lmao

>>57348326
>having ADHD so bad you have to have 50 different things streaming in the background while gaming
wew

>>57348343
>not watching the news or some sports stream while you're playing CoD

>>57348153
Get a Zotac or PNY 1080.

>>57348153
>Seagate

RIP YOUR DATA

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nzs2r7
I'm probably going to get a 1080 Ti if they come out.

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Can someone rate/advise my build? I litterally threw it together in the span of maybe 10 minutes by browsing what the best selling things were off Newegg that were within the budget/power I was looking for


>CPU - $340
Intel i7 4970k

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369&ignorebbr=1

>GPU - $320
ASUS GTX 970 4GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121899&ignorebbr=1

>Mobo - $110

Asus Z97

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132512&ignorebbr=1

>PSU - $120

Corsair 120W

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139142&ignorebbr=1

>RAM - $88

16GB Corsair Vengence DDR4 2133

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233831&ignorebbr=1

>Case - $60

Corsair Carbide Silent Series

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139058&ignorebbr=1

>SSD - $157

500GB Samsung Evo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373&ignorebbr=1

Going to reuse my 1TB HDD from my current computer and also getting a Hyper212 heatsink again.

All in all it's about $1100. Probably don't plan on making any purchases until Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

>>57348444
>970
stop

>>57348359
I can do that on my phone with one touch...

>>57348460
What's wrong with a 970? What would be better?

How much do you actually save on computer parts on Black Friday/Cyber Monday?

>>57348499
It's hit or miss depending on what actually gets put on sale. But the last time I built my PC back in '13 I saved quite a bit on various parts here and there. Definitely worth the wait rather than paying full retail price.

>>57348480
3.5 housefire
Just get a 1070 or literally anything else.

Is a ASUS Z170-P an ok mobo, should I get something else instead?

Have any of you tried buying cheap windows 10 OEM keys? I really want to avoid the expensive original retail prices.

>>57348580
I bought mine from ebay. Just look for a seller with a lot of stars and good feedback. And read through the feedback.

My key cost like 20€

>>57348513

Thanks babe

>>57348580
rip a windows 7 key off an old laptop
dont spend any money at all on windows

>>57348444
(you)
Seriously, this is awful. You can do about this good or better for the same price.

This is 100$ more and has a modern GPU.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nzs2r7

My updated build, im pretty new to all this so any recommendations are greatly appreciated, thank you
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/s4X64C


>Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
>Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
>G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
>Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
>NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
>EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
>Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan
> Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (x2)
Still looking for a good keyboard and mouse but every single one gets complaints so ill have to wait on choosing those

>>57348834

Are you going to edit videos and shit?

>>57348513

Where'd you get your parts from friend ?

My parts. I will mostly be gaming and video editing

>Intel Core i7 6700K 4.00 GHz
>Gigabyte GeForce GTX GV-N1080G1
>Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
>Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD
>EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2, 80+ GOLD 650W
>MSI Pro Solution Intel Z170A LGA 1151 DDR4 USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard
>WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Desktop Hard Drive
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz (PC4-19200) C14 Memory Kit - Black
>Corsair Carbide Series Black 300R Windowed Computer Case

And some fans

Let me know if this is good. I take your criticism very seriously!

Does one really need an anti static wristbands for first time pc build?

>>57348951
no :/ are some of the parts overkill? im still iffy on this stuff

>>57349074
just get one, theyre like 5 bucks and then you wont have to worry about static electricity fucking your shit up.

>>57348076
cpu and mobo prices from a local Micro Center
Win 10 from Kinguin
Case from Newegg
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tRvmxY

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Hey guys im having trouble with getting my pc to run. Last night I had the cases power button lit up but today ive got no light after following the manual and making sure everything was in properly. Where do I go from here? If i plug in the 12V and 24-Pin will my cpu cooler/fan start up? So far everything has been dead.

>>57349118
I'm a fucking dumbass.

I'll be doing the gayming and some light CAD work on NX 9.0.

>>57349126
plug in the cord on the right [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]

>>57348834
my bad, not gonna do editing, just playing games and this is my 1st build, im pretty computer stupid

Is it a good idea to base my build around the case?

I like the look of those small cases, I think fractal do them. I just need a medium spec for programming and to replace a couple of laptops that are getting old now. A decent GPU would be nice. Would a small case have enough room for a medium spec build?

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Does mini itx build make sense? Should I wait for kaby lake?
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MD2cM8

>>57349198
Not so much the case, but the form factor + price is what you want to look for.

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I tried to scrap together a list, knowing very little about building computers, using one of the builds in the OP links as a starting point.
I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of overclocking, as I've never done it before (let alone building a computer), and I'm not even sure how necessary I find it to be (when considering the higher heat trade-off), but I didn't see an option on the site to select a non-k model of that series.

I intend on using it for gaming (VR as well) and (potentially) things like 3D modelling and image editing.

I thank you for your time and advice.

>>57349168

You don't need an i7 then. Switch to i5

Are gaming mobos a meme?

>>57348983
Newegg mostly. I bought my processor from a local Microcenter. Typically they're cheaper on CPUs.

I think I may have bought a HDD or SSD from Tiger Direct but the majority of my parts I ordered through Newegg

>>57349384

>32gb ram

Really nigga?

Why do you need a full tower when mid towers efficient

>>57349426
Like I said, I don't know shit.
I guess I could do 16GB instead and drop down to a mid tower.

>>57349451

Where's your hard drive? :O

>>57349490
I picked out a solid state drive there. I already have two external hard drives.

>>57349398
cool, ty :)

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I dont understand whats going on. I just breadboarded this to make sure it was working, I shorted it with a screw driver and everything started working fine. Now that I've put the mobo back into the case its not working anymore???? The fuck

>>57349822
shit mobo

>>57349822
have you tried plugging in the other cables too?

>>57349889
I done it with just the two before because i didnt want to overcomplicate it and it worked fine with both connectors. Now for some reason it wont respond at all.
>>57349880
Elaborate? Why would it work before and not now?

>>57349880
>>57349889
I also had it working with the power button via the Power SW

>>57349899
did you try turning it on and off again?

>>57349822
Standoffs/shorting somewhere?

>>57350047
Im checking that now, how will I know for sure? Whay should I be looking for on particular?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vLF64C
>Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler
>Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
>Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card
>Silverstone ML08B HTPC Case
>Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply


What'd I fuck up?

Considering going up to a 3 or 4TB HDD, do they have significantly worse failure rates or anything?
Also, is the extra .2GHZ of the 6600k worth the extra cash? I assume not but it can't hurt to confirm, I guess.

>>57350047
Another question sorry, my IO Plate isnt touching my mobo, should it be?

>>57350057
Don't let the mobo come into contact with any metal on the case. Make sure there are supports/standoffs between mobo and case. Your mobo should come with them or the case may have them preinstalled

>>57350107
>IO Plate
Don't think that matters, but they are annoying

>>57350093
I see no point in getting a GTX1070 and i5-6600, specially with that case.

>>57350183
Why? I want a decent gaming PC, I'm just also interested in having something small. The airflow is perfectly fine with the way the case is laid out, the PSU, CPU and GPU fans are all pulling directly through the grills.

>>57348444
You shouldn't get last gen parts without a good reason, and you ESPECIALLY shouldn't get last gen parts from Nvidia.

>>57350195
Let me say this.
I have a silverstone raven rvz02 and same cooler as you have picked with i5 4670k and a gtx970, it runs pretty hot quickly.
My friend has recently build a pc of his own with thermaltake core v1, which has a pretty small footprint plus he can add some nice cooling to keep everything cool. I suggest you look into alternatives. Just saying since I don't think you will be happy with the heat.

>>57350225
Do you OC at all? Thanks for telling me this by the way, the first hand anecdote is useful.

I cant fucking build a 2k PC, its like im autistic or something, is there hope for me /g/?

>>57350250
No I haven't but I will have to get a new case so I can get better airflow and cooling.
If you're gonna go with this case or anything similar, I suggest getting i3 6100 and GTX 1050ti or GTX1060 but if you have time to wait. Wait for the kaby lake i3, seems like it will run cooler and on less power while delivering "14%" more "performance".

>>57350093
Drop to an i5-6500 and switch the 3.5" Seagate for a 2.5" HGST Travelstar or get a bigger SSD.

>>57350225
Not the anon, but also interested in a compact gaming pc. What if I only play somewhat older games and the only modern games I play are only Civ VI and Skyrim (I know, I suck casual dick)?

>>57350273
Why drop the 3.5? It does fit, the PC Part Picker thing just doesn't account for the extra mounting point you get when you use a short GPU.

>>57350295
Smaller drive = possibly better airflow
You want a gaming PC in an extrem form factor, you have no luxury regarding space. I can only agree on what the other anon said, you'll sooner or later run into temp probs.

>>57350286
Sure just get an i3 6100 along with a gtx1050ti or gtx1060 since they're less power hungry and won't generate too much heat, thus won't reach any horrible temps and throttle.

Are any of the console shaped cases actually good enough at cooling to handle high TDP components?

>>57350286
The remastered skyrim or skyrim with mods can benefit from the 1060, if only because the game runs like shit anyway

>>57350225
Is your GPU blower style? That's pretty important I think, in such a cramped case.

>>57350252
Yeah it's hard to bring a gaming computer up to that price

>>57350322
Smaller drive = lower performance and MUCH lower lifespan
Don't fall for the laptop hard drive meme, get a single good 3.5" and place it well and then toss some SSDs all over the case

>>57350093
3TB drives have significantly worse failure rates

>>57350093
Is that the case, I can't see how you could fit a GPU on a normal ITX mobo and have it that thin?

>>57350717
Riser cards.

>>57350093
That GPU isn't using a blower cooler, which might fuck you over considering the high TDP. Consider going Founders.

But that means you can't use a 3.5 drive, so yymv.

>>57349822
Hahaha so I finally got the damn thing to work and now it wont connect to any monitor hahaha fuck

>>57350782
trash it
restart

Good SFF cases with airflow worth a shit? Budget isn't an issue.

The manta looks nice.

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I'm Poor, I'm thinking of grabbing a Gtx 1050 and a nice Dell Optiplex Desktop with maybe an Ivy Bridge or Sandy bridge i5. total would be around $250

Is this a good idea? I would just play Mobas and Overwatch

Whats a wifi adapter do?
What does the k at the end of a CPU do?
Is it easy to fuck up your CPU when putting it in? It seems fragile as fuck
help pls D:

Shitposting and chinese cartoons

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9hFjWX

>>57350823
A WiFi adaptor lets your PC connect to WiFi. Useful if your motherboard has no WiFi built in.

>>57350823
K means it can be overclocked. Don't get the k if you don't want to overclock.
Fucking up a CPU install is easy but as long as you know what you're doing and don't have some kinda motor function disorder, you'll be fine.

>>57350863
so a PC cant connect to wifi without one? D:
i have no idea how to tell if a motherboard has wifi built in, but theyre pretty cheap so ill buy it, ty

>>57350871
WiFi should be listed in the features of a motherboard. And it'll have antennas coming out the back usually.

>>57350869
cool, idk what overclocking is or how to do it, but it sounds too complicated for me atm, im very new to all of this and am finally making the switch after playing on console forever, all the help is appreciated a ton

>>57350882
mine has this on the pcpartpicker website
ONBOARD ETHERNET
1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
so i guess thats good?

>>57350902
Ethernet is a wired connection. What motherboard are you getting? I can check if it has WiFi for you if you're stuck still.

>>57350911
its not set in stone since i just threw something together but https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q9Gj4D/asus-motherboard-z170a
ty

>>57350961
Yeah there's no WiFi on that board, so if you go with that you'd want to buy an adapter.

>>57350982
dang :< ty tho, i really hope its easy to install, it cant be that bad i hope

>>57350686
Travelstar HDDs are actually quiet good though..

why cant i pick an optical drive on pcpartpicker??

>>57349236
What form factor would you recommend? I just want something on the smaller end of the scale and also that would have good airflow and be low noise and ideally low power?

>>57351444
ITX is what you want.

Is this decen price/quality wise? I got a good deal on the CPU for where I live. Got memory, HDD and SSD on hand from other builds.

Will the case work ok with the components? Muy research says yes, but what the fuck do I know.
Plan on OC-ing the CPU to 4.6 or something, memory to 2800mhz.. Is this k?
I live in Eastern Europe so prices on components suck, so power source, memory & cooler were picked based on local deals.
Will the motherboard handle 2800 Mhz mem and 4.6 or 4.7 OC'ed cpu?

Thanks!

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For €250.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€80.28 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€111.02 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory (Purchased For €125.00)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For €0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For €0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For €0.00)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card (€466.35 @ Amazon Italia)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (€87.97 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€84.92 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1205.54

How should I interpert TDP values of CPUs and how to find out what cooler would be enough for certain CPU?

I mean, when I was searching for review of NH-U12S, Techpowerup (techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-U12S/6.html) tested it with i7-3960X ES (110W TDP) and when overlocked to 4,1Ghz, they got 66C on max load.

But when they were testing Corsair H80i GT, with i7-4770K (84W TDP), when overlocked to 4,2 Ghz, NH-U12S had 91C!

Im confused - why same cooler have higer temps with CPU with lower TDP?

How Im supposed to find out, what would be fine for i7-6700k?

>>57351488
Should I just go for the cheapest Fractal ITX case? There's one that is advertised as a silent case actually, might go with that one.

>>57352152
>Im confused - why same cooler have higer temps with CPU with lower TDP?
TDP isn't the only thing that affects the temps. For instance, Intel's mainstream CPUs since Sandy Bridge use thermal paste instead of solder to connect the IHS to the chip, thus resulting in higher temps(although they've improved on that after Ivy Bridge, I believe). Smaller process node also means that watt for watt, you're packing more heat into a smaller area.

And that's before overclocking. TDP basically goes out of the window once you start OCing, since the power draw scales with both clockrate and voltage and if you're serious about overclocking, you need to increase the voltage to get high clocks while keeping the chip stable.

>>57352152
they're overclocking, and the 4770k went higher.
X CPU's probably also are just higher quality so overclock better, that's why they binned as X and not K or T

for standard clocks any reputable cooler rated for that TDP should be fine, for overclocking it's a crapshoot, just get more

>>57352284
>X CPU's probably also are just higher quality so overclock better, that's why they binned as X and not K or T
HEDT parts use an entirely different die from the desktop parts. That's why it's Haswell-E and not just Haswell.

>>57349384
no hdd?

>>57350269
you could underclock it so it runs cooler if you got a k

>>57350804
Yes. You don't need anything more than that for mobas and overwatch.
good job!

>>57352231
Chose what you like best, there's a ton of ITX cases, Fractal makes very good ones.

Friendly reminder to everyone to not buy EVGA cards:
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-gtx-10701080-cards-almost-all-of-them-have-overheating-issues.html

>>57352233
>>57352315

So, I dont know anymore - would that U12S be enough for i7-6700k or not?

Case is Corsair 200R, mobo ga-z70-hd3p, so massive coolers might not fit.

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Which hard drive should I get from Newegg?

Refurbished Hitachi 160GB 7200RPM (no reviews)
Brand new WD Scorpio Blue 80GB 5400RPM (5 stars with 51 reviews)

Links:
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA1ZD4JC9649
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA67S21D6929

>>57352834
>buying refurb HDDs
No. Also, why no SSD?

>>57352889
Need a cheap HD to slap in an old laptop. I'd love a SSD but needs to be cheap and a reasonable amount of space. I think this price range can get about 32GB of SSD... Don't like the sound of that.

asus z170 pro gaming or gigabyte z170x gaming 5?

>>57353025
I have the Asus but both are pretty good. Asus has the better soundchip but Gigabyte has the better network controller.

>>57353275
Thanks.

FWIW the Asus is $207 AUD and the Gigabyte is $252 AUD

>>57353025
You are kind of comparing two boards from different price ranges.
Asus Z170 Pro Gaming - Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 3

Asus Maximus VIII Ranger - Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 5

That's how they compare.

>>57353490
Which one would you take from each comparison?

I'm prepared to spend the extra for the Gaming 5, I will be OCing and using it for gaming.

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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/p6nzZ8
>Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler
>Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
>Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
>Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
>Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card
>Silverstone ML07B HTPC Case
>Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply

How's this?

Wasn't really sure which 1070 to go with, do any of them cool particularly well?

>>57353651
The 6600 is a pointless CPU. Either get a 6500 or 6600k.

>>57353692
So I guess the 6500 is my best bet if I don't plan to OC? I could afford to go up to an i7 but I don't see much point for a gaymen PC.

>>57353513
I'd go with the Asus on both choices. I find it much easier to OC since they actually give a clean and detailed bios and I prefer the SupremeFX audio over the Gigabyte implementation.

>>57353746
Probably. I mean, it's only clocked 100MHz lower than 6600 and it costs significantly less.

>>57353794
The boost clock seems to be a bit higher but I guess that isn't super significant, not like I'm gonna be hitting any bottlenecks either way.

>>57352827

Please respond ;_;

>>57353856
Jesus fucking Christ you keep asking that stupid question thread after thread after thread...
YES a Noctua NH-U12S is fine for a i7-6700K. It will give you good temps and noise levels. Also see link below:
http://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide?

>>57349052
>i7
>cooler master hyper 212 evo

>>57354033
What's wrong with that heatsink? I got one on my i5

>>57353651
Go with the Fortress version of that case instead, it's prettier and comes with fans and filters, which that one does not.

Or get the Raven if you hate good aesthetics.

>>57354062
Hyper 212 is an old meme and there are better options.

I need to replace my PSU because it makes a weird clicking noise. Is this decent?`It has the cable ends I need and wattage is appropriate.
http://www.xilence.de/en/products/power-supplies/performance-c-series/xn042.html

>>57355226
I don't know what your use cases are/might be, but personally I'd get at least a 500W PSU with two 6+2pin connectors

Is an acrylic PC case bad to use?

I want an acrylic pc case, but if it will help overheat my computer, then fuck it.

>>57355300
Just throw some blue LEDs in there to cool it down

>>57355440
kek, COME ON, Im serious.

Is there a big difference between metal and acrylic cases (tempeture wise)?

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>pc hooked up to monitors at desk and TV for when I want to watch shit
>old 2013 graphics card, HD 7950
>buy 4k hdr tv
>tv cannot display anything from pc unless it's set to 1080x920 which looks awful when watching movies

Will the 1060 6gb and an hdmi 2.0 compatible hdmi cable solve all my problems?

>>57355226
No, look for a power supply with an 80+ rating, the more precious the metal the more efficient, e.g. an 80 plus bronze rating is less efficient than a gold

>>57355226
https://seasonic.com/product/s12ii-520/

>>57355460
Idk, sounds like the TV is the retarded component by not accepting 1080p

All I have left for my build is ram, storage and a psu
Anyone know of deals which I can get the first two for a little less than buying them separate? Looking for 16 gigs of ram, unless someone convinces me it's a meme, and I've been looking at a Samsung evo 500gb ssd

>>57348153

That case is horrendous.

>>57355579
>ram
Cheapest pair you can get. 16GB is still overkill.
>storage
OCZ TL100 or Crucial MX300. One is just plain cheap per GB and the other is slightly more expensive but gives you slightly more capacity (525GB vs 480GB)

>>57348076
someone help

my issue is that I have Resident Evil 5 installed on my second 3tb drive and whenever dialogue pops out it stutters/lags for a second. But when I installed it to my main 1tb drive it runs fine with no issue. I even did a clean install of my whole systems and it still occurs. please help or explain to me what is happening.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQ2JkT
What should I change?

Give me one good reason why this build is bad
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JsFvZ8
If your budget is ~$700

>>57355923
I would get the unlocked i5, knock RAM down to 8GB, get higher watt PSU.

>>57355915
PSU, mobo, and heatsink seem overpriced. They might be high-end but seem unnecessary.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TgWFXH
Is this good enough for 1440p?

>>57356124
>I would get the unlocked i5
Why? Then you'd need to spend $70 more on a Z170 motherboard and $30 or more on a cooling solution. You're talking about a $850 build there.

>>57356231

Yep.

>>57356281
Why do you need a different mobo?

>>57356308
Because only the Z170 motherboards support unlocked core clock multiplier adjustments, BCLK multiplier adjustments, and XMP support. Putting a K-SKU CPU on a H110 motherboard is a waste of money because you can't overclock on it thanks to the artificial BIOS limitation.

>>57356333
I don't know what any of those things are... Times have changed man. I got me an Ivy Bridge unlocked i5 back in the day for $180 and didn't have to worry about the mobo. Running that ever since.

>>57356375
>I don't know what any of those things are
I could tell

>>57356375
>Back in the day

It was four years ago.

>>57356375
>Times have changed man
No, they haven't changed at all. Skylake is more like Sandy/Ivy Bridge in terms of overclocking than Haswell/Broadlake. Nothing has changed about overclocking Intels, in fact we've come full circle since Skylake/Kaby Lake once against disconnects the primary PCIe and southbridge bus from the adjustable BCLK.

>>57348076
Would a X4 860k bottleneck an RX 470?

>>57348154
I think 480 is better in the long term. If you upgrade every year go for the 1060.

>>57356641
ye. not hugely though. also get the x4 845 if you wanna go that route

>>57348154
480 is more futureproof with more ram and better D12/Vulkan support, but 1060 is better for current titles. If you want your cheap video card last for long I'd go for 480, but if you're going to buy a new one in couple of years then 1060 will be better.

>>57356641
Not enough to make a difference over an i3-6100. All you have to do is to overclock the 860K to around 4.5-4.7GHz for parity with an i3-6100 and still have higher minimum framerates over the dual-core Intel.

>>57356750
no matter how much you oc the 860k it doesn't come close to a i3 6100, don't lie to the kid, yes it's theoretically a dual core but the hyper-threading adds two weaker cores. the IPC alone helps the i3 6100 crush the 860k

>>57356702
thanks man

>>57356797
>it doesn't come close to a i3 6100
What metrics are we going by here? AAA DX11 games? Then you're 100% right, a i3-6100 will run about 10-15% better even with the 860K overclocked to 4.5GHz. But DX12 and older DX9/10 games? The 860K gets a lot closer.

But factor in costs and you're paying Pentium G4400 prices for a CPU that still gets within 90% of an i3-6100 and has more consistent frametimes than the i3, believe it or not. The highest measured framerate count might not come close to the 6100, but the average framerate count overlaps because the maximum frame time and time spent at the minimum frame rate on the 860K is still better than the i3-6100 during CPU-intensive scenes in DX12.

Try it yourself. The 860K might technically run a lower framerate, but it's measurably more consistent than the i3-6100, which does bounce around a little more between the minimum and maximum framerate, but it's more noticeable because of the sudden spikes in framerates. The i3-6100 can push higher numbers, but the framerates don't stay as high for very long compared to the 860K, where it can stay near the highest framerate count for longer and dip much less severely. I'm not quite certain why this is, maybe it's because CMT works better than SMT because a CMT cluster is asked to share a workload rather than having a single SMT core splitting resources between virtual threads when it's already being overworked.

>>57348154
People will talk about future proofing with these cards but it's bs. 480 has a bit better dx12 support atm but that's about it. Most developers will be using dx11 for years to come. Even with dx12 games there isn't a card definitively better than the other. Either card will last you a few years for at least high setting 1080p gaming

>>57356976
>you're paying Pentium G4400 prices
>860K overclocked to 4.5GHz
Yeah nah. You're not OC-ing the 860k on stock to 4.5GHz
And yeah we're talking DX11 games which is most games out right now.
>DX9/10 games The 860K gets a lot closer.
I highly doubt that because most of those can't even use 4 cores in which case the 860k will get demolished.

>>57357063
>I highly doubt that because most of those can't even use 4 cores in which case the 860k will get demolished.
Try running DoTA, LoL, or other normie games on an 860K and a 6100 and record the frame counts. I have and the differences aren't that great (I used an 880K, but it's literally the same architecture). The 6100 only edges ahead by a few hundred frames in DoTA over a five minute test run because it could go to higher maximum framerates. That's not by much and should be in the low thousands if the 6100 was consistently better than the 880K (like it does in all of the DX11 games I've tested). This shows that the 6100 does drop down to about the same or lower framerate during the same period of time.

>Yeah nah.
880K with a ID-Cooling tower heatsink on an Asus A88X Pro motherboard. Got to 4.8GHz stable without much of a fuss.
An 860K will probably reach 4.5GHz under the same settings or better. The differences between the two chips aren't that substantial.

>>57357145
>The differences between the two chips aren't that substantial.
Not substantial but noticeable. Again, you aren't OC-ing the 860k to 4.5k on stock which further adds to the price.
Also what video card did you use for those benchmarks? In most benchmarks I've seen the i3 6100 pushes way further ahead.

>>57357145
Oh and not to mention if you want to oc the mobo for the 860k will be more expensive than the one for an i3 6100 which further adds to the cost

Desided to come back to pc gaming. I need to buy everything, including monitor. Mostly strategy and rpgs. What is the best way to spend about 1000€?

>>57357210
>you aren't OC-ing the 860k to 4.5k on stock which further adds to the price
You can pick up an 860K for under $80. That ID-Cooling heatsink only set me back by $30. That's about $110, still under the i3-6100.
>Also what video card did you use for those benchmarks?
An ASUS GTX 750 Ti. AMD cards might run more inconsistently on AMD APUs, but that's down to the overhead on the DX11 drivers which are almost non-existent in DX12.

>>57357226
True, but an ASRock A88X mATX with an M.2 slot costs only $10 more than a Gigabyte H110 mATX motherboard. You can get an 860K to around 4.5GHz on that board as well, the ASUS just doesn't need more voltage to the CPU to get there.

>>57355923
>350W
There you go.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/bXH48d,3rH48d,C2tCmG,Vw648d/

which one of these cheapo boards is best?

>>57357282
>80$ + 30$ for the cooler + 10$ more for the mobo
I'd say it gets into i3-6100 range
Also that graphics card doesn't get bottlenecked by the x4 860k that's why you aren't getting more fps with the i3 6100, it would be a different story with a RX 470

Anyone know if B&H do Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales? Cause Jet fucking taxes my state now but B&H is still tax free so anyone know??

So I recently finished rebuilding my first PC and im having trouble with it now. When I plug it into the monitor I only get a black screen. None of the USBs have any power but my CPU fan starts and my GPU starts up. I've tried removing RAM and I get a few beeps when I start up without it, ive removed the CMOS, ive unplugged and replugged and tried my old GPU and I still get nothing. How bad did I do

>>57357458

Make sure you reseat everything hard style if you know what I mean?

>>57357458
Do you have integrateg gpu? Try removing your graphics card and sticking your monitor into it.
Did you remove all the RAM lol? If yes that's what the beeping was.
Tbh it just sounds like your mobo is fucked up.

>>57357398
>it would be a different story with a RX 470
Probably not depending on the settings and resolutions you're running the game at. Most people here only look at the results for the absolute highest settings, ignoring the fact that you can adjust settings you don't need or want to get better framerates WITHOUT taking away from the game's immersion.
Also, with DX12, the 470/480 runs about the same as the 1060 does in DX11 on the same 860K. Compared to the i3-6100, the 1060 and 480 would perform better in DX11 mode, but still be within a handful of frames in the FPS count.
The "bottleneck" is not as severe as people might think.

>>57357523
getting something that can at least run current games at high settings ensures some level of future proofing

>>57357523
I'm merely saying that for you to compare the 860k with the i3 6100 on a 750 ti is uesless as you're not making full use of the i3 6100 extra processing power.
https://youtu.be/huhq1yNdjj4?t=4m27s
This guy right here compares them both at stock and the 860k OC-ed to 4.5GHz on a 970 and you can better see the difference between the processors. The benchmarks start at 4 minutes.

>>57357486
No I dont
>>57357488
Yeah I removed the RAM to see if I could get any beeps, its the only time it does beep is without the RAM otherwise its silent. I was really hoping it wasnt fucked but its starting to seem more and more like it is

>>57357593
Beeps are error codes, you're getting "beeps" because your mobo is telling you "HEY RETARD THERE IS NO RAM"
Other than that as I said, if you tried a difference video card and it does the same shit then the mobo is fried.

>>57357458
I forgot all the plugs, but I think you need to check one of the big ones that goes directly into the mobo.

>>57357536
And all indicators point to the 860K and 6100 going a par with each other in DX12.
>>57357591
>I'm merely saying that for you to compare the 860k with the i3 6100 on a 750 ti is uesless as you're not making full use of the i3 6100 extra processing power
That's entirely dependent on which part of the computer is being more heavily stressed. In DoTA, you do run into situations where your CPU is approaching 90% usage with the GPU usage only dropping from 90% to low 80% on both CPUs. The behavior was largely the same, in fact, they both lost about the same GPU usage over time under similar loads (many objects and characters on screen at once).
It is possible to turn up some settings in DoTA with the 6100 and still have a higher overall frame count over a five minute period.

My point is that the Athlon X4 860K is not that far behind like people here seem to imply. It's well within 90% under stock in DX12 and older games and about on par when overclocked. But you get more consistent performance over time compared to the i3-6100 because you don't get as significant of a frame rate variation despite having lower overall frame rate averages, even in DX11.

Why do you guys hate on seagate hard drives?

>>57352952
I just bought a $40 OCZ 128GB SSD for my laptop

>>57357227
Just start here
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=yzYrHx
If you want upgrade to an overclockable CPU at some point, get a Z170 mobo. Any used 1080p 60Hz monitor will be fine

>>57357005
Agreed about future proofing BS, but the RX 480 is clearly better in new AAA games. I don't think many big games are coming out on old engines anymore.. FO4 was probably the last big one on a shitty, old engine.

>>57356976
The problem with your thought process is that there is literally no upgrade path on the FM2+ socket, so if you're really concerned about money, over the long run you'll save money by buying LGA1151 if you have to buy now.

>>57356641
Yes, see my above comment

>>57355923
I agree with the other anon, get a 500+W Bronze PSU with x2 6+2pin connectors. Your will be a component that you can use for a long time, no reason to limit yourself with 350W or w/e

>>57354977
Are there better $20 options because that why 90% of new coolers end up being hyper 212s

>>57355460
>HDMI
There's your problem

>>57357737
It's because of Backblaze and their stats on the faulty 3TB Seagate Barracudas. The 3TB drives suffered from actuator failure or some sort of read head malfunction, although the 2TB models shared the same basic design and had none of those problems.

>>57357760
>The problem with your thought process is that there is literally no upgrade path on the FM2+ socket, so if you're really concerned about money, over the long run you'll save money by buying LGA1151 if you have to buy now.
True. My point is that the Kaveri platform isn't that far behind Skylake as people seem to believe. and nor will it bottleneck the 470 any more than the i3-6100 will bottleneck the same GPU.

>>57356333
Other chipset have XMP as well

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I'm currently looking to build my first PC with the following specs:

- Intel Core i5-6600k 3.5GHz
- GTX 1070
- Z170a motherboard
- 16GB RAM
- 256GB SSD
- 4TB HDD

I'm planning to use it for GPU accelerated programming (OpenGL fluid simulations, neural networks, machine learning and rendering).

Only problem is: why do all the parts look like: "gaymers theme red with dragons". It is cringy as fuck. Pic related. I am used to clean looking silver/black themed motherboards and beautiful internals as I work mostly with Macs.

Another noob question: is it not an issue to use all kinds of brands with each other in a build (corsair ram / msi motherboard / asus gtx 1070)?

>>57357742
Ya, don't want to even spend $40 on this old thing. Yes I am poor btw. I found some 60GB ones for $26, but am unsure the brand. This okay?
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIAAZ64D79401
Also slightly worried about the form factor. This should fit in the 2.5" cradle right? The current HDD is real snug, no room for error.

>>57357788
Not as standard and not all boards from the same manufacturers have XMP support. You have to search for XMP support outside of the Z170 chipset.

>>57357282
If you honestly believe that an 860K and FM2 will last you for a long time with no upgrading possibilities without just staring over, that's on you

>>57357836
That wasn't my point. I was saying that you're no more bottlenecked on an 860K than you are on an i3-6100 running the same GPU. If you don't want any sort of bottleneck on a 470/480 or 1060, get an i5-6500 at the very least.

>>57357695
>FM2 socket
>860K
>750ti
>this motherfucker is talking about "futureproofing"

>>57357876
I'm not talking about futureproofing, just about the 470 paired with the 860K. That was the original question. >>57356641

anyone know if cpu's get cheaper on cyber monday/black friday?

i7 6700k is only 299 on ebay. should i wait or should i just get it now cause that's as low as it'll get?

>>57357695
My CPU has never gone past 60% in Dota but then again I didn't buy AMDs quad core attempt from 2 years ago

>>57357897
If you're talking about gaming in DX12 you're talking about futureproofing.
If you're talking about an FM2 socket and a 470 you're not.

>>57357900
CPUs never go on sale, but that's better than the $320 i saw it at last time I checked

>>57357928
An i3-6100 will hit mid 80% CPU usage on really busy areas with multiple characters and particle effects displayed at once. The 880K in my case got to the low-mid 80s as well.

>>57357961

cool. just got it.

Is buying a 1070 at the current price worth it?

>>57358458
If you want to spend $400 on a GPU it's worth it

>>57357760
It isn't clearly better though. There's exceptions on both sides. Benchmarks show the exaggerations people give. Dx12 being in its infancy simply isn't going to be reliable and then drivers are released that are negating these benchmarks post release. It's already happened a couple of times. More than anything, the exaggerations show up for blind company support using Vulcan/doom and shoddy dx12 implementation as main examples

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VPzJkT
>CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
>CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler
>Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
>Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
>Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
>Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
>Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case
>Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

How badly did I fuck up on this? Might get a second GPU down the line if needed in the future.

>>57357774
Care to elaborate? It's a tv and I have no other options, furthermore I was able to hook up my old 1080p tv to tl my PC via hdmi no problem

>>57357790
It wont make a difference what brand they are and there are definitely good looking components out there. That motherboard you posted is literally a gaymen OC mobo. Do some research to find one.

Also your build is fine as long as you actually overclock it if you dont youve wasted a lot of money. Also get two 2 tb hdd instead of one 4 tb one. Look that up as well.

>>57358878
The ram is sub optimal and you bought a meme case but otherwise its fine.

>>57359211
Why's the ram sub-optimal? Just wondering.

>>57359211
is the NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ok?

>>57359149
Thank you for your reply.

Two 2tb hdds definitely seems like a better idea.

>>57358878
I like your build, it is quite close to mine
>>57357790

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kR8p3F
How's my build going /g/?

how do i know if i can upgrade my laptop ram?

>>57360357
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xKzZ8
I added a monitor

>>57360498
Would you rather have 144hz 1080p or 60hz 1440p?

>>57360781
whats better ;~;

What video card should I get?
Only game I will be playing is Squad (FPS) on Steam

CPU I will be using is i5 6600k w/ Z170 mobo

>>57360781
144hz since I mostly play eSports. 1080p js still fine.

>>57360781
Also, is the rx480 good for 1080p 144hz?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MzTGjc
This is basically what I'm going for.

Right now I have...

>Processor: Intel Core i7 3820 3.6 ghz
>MoBo: Gigabyte X79-UD3
>GPU: MSI Radeon R9 290X 3GB
>RAM: 2 x Corsair 4GB
>Case: Thermaltake Overseer

Preferably going to be using it for gaming. Don't see a point in an optical drive anymore, to be quite honest and a friend gifted an EVGA GTX 1080 FE, so I dunno if I'm jumping the gun or if I just need to get gud.

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CAN I GO ANY LOWER?

Bought a Gigabyte RX 460 4gb and it's giving me some Error Code 43 shit. I knew I should have went for 480

>>57360781
I prefer 1440p but I haven't used anything past 60hz, its still amazing considering I've come from 30fps consoles

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKk2xY

Thoughts? thank you

>>57360781
1440p/144 is the only answer

Best 1070 to put in a MITX system? Cooling is the priority. Can be 13" long and 5.88" thick, so there's not much restriction there if it isn't fuckhuge.

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>>57361522
>1070
>mITX

but why?

I've got a GTX 770, and was holding out for the 1080ti release to upgrade. Should I reconsider an AMD GPU?

>>57361338
those monitors cost like 500

It seems like I can get the acer gn246hl bbid for 100$, is it worth it?
From what Im reading it's shitty for a 144hz monitor but it's still better than my current 1080p 60hz monitor right?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JCTGjc
How'd I do /g/?

Christmas build, I've posted this a couple times before, but nobody ever said anything on it.

Gaming, planning to get back into blender and learning lightworks at the moment as well.

>>57361554
Very limited space. And I think small computers look cool. The later is most of it, really.

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Rate my build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/smfbkT

>>57361608
so many fucking fans

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>>57361653
sensible/10

>>57361608
Get a better cooler. Don't buy EVGA's 10xx cards.

>>57361066
So would anybody have any feedback for this or am I going to destroy my house in a fire from the 1080 in this case?

>>57361731
>Don't buy EVGA's 10xx cards
Only the FTW series and higher is having the explosion issue brofam.

>>57361149
Now slap a 1060 in that thing and youve got a good 1080p gaming station

>>57361149
damn that's cute
tempted to build a clone

>>57360953
Your reaction time is not even 1/60th of a second

>>57361149
Is that mobo and case compatible?

>>57361806
cold reaction time isn't the only thing that matters boy

250 ms is 4 fps, would you call 4 fps playable?

>>57361840
You also can't see smoothness past 60fps but you probably claim you could..

>>57361855
you can see the difference of at least up to 200fps, with diminishing returns past 60

this was verified by IMAX corp back in the 70's when they were choosing an fps for showscan

video games are not as smooth as film though so higher fps are even more noticable

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pDBX2R
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/x8nPzM
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4r2vZ8

They all have what i need (1 x16 and 1 x4 PCIe slot) and are pretty much the same in price because mexico retarded prices.
The only problem is that MSI Z97 PC Mate doesnt have 4 pin FAN connectors but has 2 extra PCIe slots.
And ASUS Z97 USB 3.1 has a extra PCIe x8 i will use in the long run but i would be wasting money because i have a locked CPU.

>Why not H97
Same price if not more expensive than Z97 because retarded prices.

>What do i need all those PCIe slots for
M2 adapters in a close future.

>4th gen I5 instead 6th gen
I bought it last year actually on a black friday offer but i rarely use a desktop because school and work so i never finished my build because i had no need of a desktop.

Budget? No budget, i can get the money right away but i want to think what should i get first.

Is the C7 the best low profile CPU Cooler? I can go up to about 80mm.

>>57361855
>you can't see past 60fps
wew lad
https://youtu.be/hjWSRTYV8e0

>>57362022
>3kliksphilip
heck off

>>57361806
>muh humans can't have fast reactions
https://youtu.be/mrw2Cn9bEzY

>>57361731
Trying to keep under 1500, so I don't want to blow it all on the GPU.

Also, what's wrong with the Noctua? Really don't want to get into watercooling just yet.

>>57361672
Gotta keep it all cool.
Unlike this budget shitposting machine I'm on, one fan in the front, and that's it.

>>57361824
The Xion case should be compatible with Mini ITX boards. CPU heatsink and GPU length aren't a problem when you're using an APU with the stock heatsink.

>>57362105
It's not Noctua, it's that cooler. Go with the U12/14s instead. Get the Zotac MP! Extreme 1070 and get cheaper fans.

>>57361653
Unless you're trying to mGPU but not OC (H170), drop to B150

>>57361932
If all you have is that CPU sell it and go skylake. DDR4

>>57361608
Get x2 8GB DDR4 kit

>>57361607
I'd wait until you can afford something with free/gsync

>>57361574
No, just wait on the 1080Ti, but check out AMD's competing offering. But you better have a nice monitor to go with it

>>57361265
Get 3000MHz RAM. Don't buy a 1080

>>57361160
Stay calm and RMA

>>57361066
Just get an SSD if you don't have one and throw the 1080 in your current build

>>57361036
It's ok/decent

>>57360941
Probably 1060 if you want the best settings

>>57360781
If you really need a monitor 1080p 144Hz with freesync / gsync

>>57362170
>If all you have is that CPU sell it and go skylake. DDR4
Been trying for a while, no luck.

I dont think i will miss that much anyway. the only thing i will be missing will be 32Gb/s M2 and a stronger IGPU.

>>57357961
But CPUs will go on sale right when they've been supplanted in power/performance by the newest generation, especially the high-end ones. You can also get low-end CPUs for significantly less when the socket they use is dying out. AM1 socket chips for example are pretty fucking cheap for their power, because all the retailers are running out of stock of their motherboards.

>>57362189
It will sell on ebay

What do I need to max out 1440p 144hz?

>>57362265
a gtx 1080

144hz will make 60fps look smoother too though

>>57361574
1080ti is for 4k, or 1440/144 meming ONLY

anything else is a complete waste of its power
1060 6gb or 470/80 are more reasonable upgrades from a 770

>>57362215
When have high end CPUs ever gone down in price? You see the sandy bridge shit still selling?

Current specs:

i7 3770k @ 4.3GHz
16GB DDR @ 21333MHz
2xRadeon HD7970
HP ZR2740w 2560x1440@60Hz


I just ordered a palit gtx 1080 for £580, I can return it till late January thanks to based Amazon. Did I dun goof'd?

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Anyone got any experience with this case?

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Thinking of building a gaming rig in this, with a 1070. If I throw a few NF-F12s on there (there'll be room, I've checked), think it'll cool alright? Planning on having it vertical for maximum airflow.

>>57362429
no but if you do a build with one do report back here, I liek

I have a corsair 750D + h100i GTX cooler, 3x140mm case fans

how do I make the computer more silent besides changing the fans?

>>57362577
Will definitely do, I just need to decide which 1070 to stick in there before pulling the trigger. Most forums say 10.5'' is the max card length while other's say it's shadier than that.

>>57362611
Rubber mounting hardware for the fans maybe. Some kinda sound dampening for the mechanical drives.

>>57362638
Oh I'm gonna do 1060 personally, that's micro ATX you're doing right? Dimensions of the case?

>>57362872

It's an itx. 190x277x254mm.

>>57352470

>>57349516

>>57362611
Get a fan controller to make the fans spin slower. If you don't have one, just connect them to a 7V source using the old molex trick (rewire a connector to use 5v as ground).

For the hard drives, I haven't seen them from up close, but the grommets on the HDD trays look too thin to efficiently block any vibration. So you'll probably have to use elastic suspension there.
Or better yet, use SSDs only, depending on how much data you need.

>>57362022
>>57362064
Finally got around to watching these videos. You guys... just completely ignored everything explained in the videos... Please seek help...

The first vid explains that in-game fps is important to have high at 200+ so that your 60Hz monitor will have smooth frames that don't need to wait for any rendering. He never said you actually see above 60fps. It's smooth 60fps vs stuttered 60fps.

The second video clearly says that a good reaction time is 12 frames (~200ms), which a lot of good CS players can achieve. He never says that you can react in 1 frame (1/60th of a second).

Which is exactly what I've been saying. You guys are dumb yo. I'll stick with my statement, 144Hz is unnecessary.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VG2X2R
Is this fine?

>>57363447
t. someone who has never owned a high fps monitor

there's a difference up to at least 200fps, but after 60 it's diminishing returns, at about 90 you need a trained eye to tell the difference but it's still there

>>57362543
It's a pretty okay case for cooling. Positive pressure is best, supposedly, so just have them all blasting in.

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Should I buy windows 10? And from where?

I don't wanna pay 100 bucks for it

>>57364806
>Using windows
>Wanting to pay money for windows
Just use Ubuntu you stupid fuck. Steam for Linux has games now.

>>57364806
G2A has it for under $40.

So I'm making a computer, and I'm pretty sure on most of the parts, I can understand which graphics card and CPU and such is best for me, the only problem I'm having is with the motherboard. I have no clue what to look for or anything.

I'm gonna get a 1070 and i7 6700K, what's the best kind of motherboard, failing that, what should I look for?

>>57364806
Le wincuck faec

>>57365490
Just get a H-170

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/BluAlchemist/saved/4yq6Mp

a friend's build, what do you think?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6c2X2R
Rate my low-ish budget build. I might get an RX 480/470 and another stick of 8gb ram if there's a good sale on them around black friday.

Your thoughts in build a Ivy Bridge-EP build in current year?

Is liquid cooling a meme?

>>57365865
AIO liquid cooling, yes. Air cooling does a better job. Custom loops can get better performance, but if that small performance gain justifies the work and cost is a bit questionable.

>>57365879
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/zalman-cnps90f-ultra-quiet-cpu-cooler-ab50157

How's this for an air cooler?

Is it better to get two 8GB sticks of RAM or one 16GB stick

>>57365904
Two sticks = better performance.

>>57363712
Doubt it

gtx 1060 or gtx 980, which is better and why?

What place has the best Black Friday/ Cyber Monday sales? Preferably based in Australia, but as long as they ship internationally it's good.

>>57366732
Buying old Nvidia hardware is always a shit idea, the drivers don't mature after like a year.

>>57366977
i'd like to believe this but i haven't seen any proof of le nvidia driver gimping as of yet. care to point me to a reliable source?

Isan msi fury x for 370 eurodollars (maybe even less) worth it lads? Still got warranty left on it too? How much of a performane jump would i see compared to my mildly oc'd r9 380?

1060 and an i5 6500 should be good with 530W, right?

>>57367232
Yup.

>>57366970
Didn't Amazon's sale go on for like a week after Cyber Monday last year?

>>57365691
Drop to a 6500 and get rid of that shitty Corsair PSU, maybe get a B150, too. Depends on budget and price.

>>57367539
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4D7mxY Like this?

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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7Wzqbj

Building a SFF gaming PC, aiming for 1440p 60FPS, so the 1070 seems like a good place to be. I really like the console shaped cases, and this case seems to have better cooling than the ML08/RVZ02 option, thanks to the fan mounts. Hopefully I won't have any heat issues with this. No plans to OC anyway.

Planning on putting an NF-F12 on all three fan mounts (should have enough room despite the stock fans being low profile, I've done my research), should hopefully alleviate any potential cooling concerns. Is having a fan blowing directly onto the Cryorig cooler's fan worth it? Would only be just over 10mm between them.

Pretty new to SFF stuff, used to building in big towers, so please tell me if I fucked anything up, or if there's anything I need to keep in mind.

>>57367598
Yes

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yyjWX
Is this a good eSport machine?

>>57367699
Still shitposting with your silly build? You've already been told everything to know..

>>57368081
What? I mean yeah, I've posted an earlier version of this once before but it got no replies.

>>57368074
*Forgot to mention I'm building it for a friend since he mostly plays CSGO, Overwatch, DotA 2 etc.

>>57368074
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/32YM3F
Now it is.

>>57368213
thanks for the help.

>>57368117
Get 6500 and you're good....

Sorry about the probably ever so often asked question in advance.
I want to buy a GTX1070 but at first glance its a huge fucking struggle deciding on which one. With my previous cards the differences were more straight forward and bigger but now im looking at 37(!) possible versions, scratch founders and EVGA and theres still a fuckton left. How would i ever go about deciding which one i want? People used to say they are all kind of similar and to just pick one but now that i know how many there are and the RRP ranging from 380-650€ in benchmark lists but in reality the amazon prices are waay off (generally off, not as in more expensive) i just dont know. So besides warranty and unrelatable benchmarks i just dont know what to look at besides design. What am i looking for?

>>57368454
Zotac AMP!, Palit SuperJetstream, or a PNY are good choices.

>>57368454
if you don't know just go reference

>>57368656
Holy shit this is bad advice.

Is the Strix a good cooler?

>>57368633
See, my 37 cards list does not even include pny and I did not know they existed. Zotac has the warranty going for them, lets exclude that for the moment
The performance of both cards is pretty comparable to that of an MSI Gaming X but even though the according price listed for the X should be +30 it actually costs 20 less. And you just kind of threw some names in the room. I like MSI kind of but there is not necessarily a need for brand loyalty. At the same time i bet if there were the same rigs with only different versions of the 1070 i would never notice any difference between most models.
Are there generally bad or outdated ones that i can at least forget? And if, besides those i can just put my eggs in the basket i for some reason trust the most AMD have the practically same outcome?

>>57368656
That would mean i am paying more for less

>>57368773
Autocorrect on AMD, shouldve been and
>inb4 mobile poster ree

>>57367210
P-pls respond

>>57368792
mobile poster ree

>>57369130
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