/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

thread claimed in the name of the holy T430

>>57146319

If trips T420 masterrace.

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>>57146257
W520 with shittiest quad core (aka 2720QM) still beats most modern laptops

Praise to power efficiency and the Androidfags, for they have inadvertently extended the useful life of this computer

>>57146371

I'm a failure.

>>57146319
>T430
>not X230 master race

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My x230 has no icons on its bottom and ports, no water drain icons, no ram cover icon, no screw icons, no usb or dp icons.
All pictures of the x230 in the internet have them, are there two versions of the x230 or a newer version?

R.I.P X220 you served me well for 4 years.

last night while shitposting noticed the backlight started flickering, not a minute later the fucker shuts off and a i smell burnt plastic. well at least my school offers t420's to any student without a laptop, so thats good but now i just have 3 x220 batteries that are going to waste (put them on my local ebay type site but i dont think they will sell) but the dock works so its all good.

I have an x220 and I love it but can't take this tiny screen res anymore. I want a T420 but no IPS sucks. What do I do?

What is an easy Linux debian I could install on my t420? Want to try the leap.

Have any of you guys tried to run Autocad or Adobe Premier/After Effects on any of these?

>>57147012
autocad will run on a toaster. but I'm guessing video editing software won't.

>>57146959

Debian.

Try out Qubes if you have an afternoon to tinker. It's well worth the effort.

>>57147036

I was considering rendering time as well.

>>57146959
>>57147048
Sorry I meant Linux distro. An easy introductory Linux distro.

>>57147012
My X230 runs:
At least 2 VMs easily
CATIA (complex renderings take a shitload of time though)
SolidWorks
Siemens automation software (heavy as fuck)
Stuff in OpenCV (real time processing of video feeds and shit like that)
Heavy and complex simulations in Matlab/Simulink
Other assorted software.

>8GB RAM
>i5 3320M
>SSD

How's the T460s working out for development? I found the configuration of 1440p, 20 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD and the i7 pretty interesting.

Any idea on how well linux (for example ubuntu) runs on it?

How's the keyboard and the battery life?

>>57147072

Mint is shilled hard here, but it's shit under the hood. Debian is fine for beginners. Once you get the hang of Debian, switch to Qubes. It takes about an hour for even a newbie to learn Qubes, but it's well worth the investment.

>>57147073

Thanks!

>>57146394
2720qm isn't the shittiest one, you have the 2630qm and 2670qm behind.

Does anyone remember which brand was it that got into a couple of scandals earlier this year? I think it was either Dell or Lenovo. Something to do with backdoors in the bios or something. I can't recall.

>>57147154
Apple

>>57147072
Antergos.

>>57146725
Where are you?

I could buy those batteries off of you.

>>57147178
Denmark, Lyngby to be more specific.

>>57147154
Lenovo had superfish virus or something on a lot of products

>>57147154

I know that Lenovo had an issue, but that wasn't up to Lenovo, but Linux. Linux didn't have the driver for the intel storage technology which would only support AHCI mode while the notebook only allowed the RAID mode, which resulted in Linux unable to be installed. I might be entirely wrong on the technical part, but that's the details I remember. Not sure if you mean that. Not a kind of backdoor but a kind of blockade against Linux.

>>57147103
Mint cinnamon? I'll look into debian as well. Does it matter if my t420 has an ssd, nvidia graphics option? What will be the biggest hassle in getting working driver wise?

Does anyone have experience with Elitebooks, 8460p/8470p especially?

>>57147260

Everything will work out of the box with basically every Linux distro. That's one of the big selling points with ThinkPads.

>>57147329
Hp's answer to the x220

X60
Intel Core Duo L2400 1.66GHz 3GB SODIMM DDR2 SATA 2.5" 160GB
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit

What ya guys think? Mostly for school and learning GNU+Linux.

>>57147409
save your money and get a cheap t400/500

>>57147374
No, those are equivalent of T420/T430

>>57146476
I have never seen anything like that. The chassis may have been replaced with a Chinese no name brand, you might have a prototype, or I don't know what the fuck.

>>57146725
I'd be willing to buy the whole broken X220 off you, if shipping to north america isn't insane.

>>57147463
You're right...

>>57147374
More like Compaq and later HP's answer to IBM and later Lenovo.

>>57147329
I'll compare to the T420/T430.

They're very sturdy, more than Thinkpads.
Screens of SLIGHTLY better quality.
Trackpoint is shit.
Trackpad is much better than the competition.
Keyboard feels slightly worse (less key travel, better texture, worse layout).
No dedicated volume keys. Dedicated wi-fi and mute buttons, and also a button that opens the default web browser. Can't be reconfigured like the thinkvantage button though.
Holy shit, they are fucking tanks.
Seems more serviceable, one button in the back opens the whole underside of the computer, giving direct access to EVERYTHING.
8460p heats somewhat, 8470p doesn't heat that much.
8470p has DP port, 3 USB (2 3.0, 1 always on), combo eSATA/USB 2.0 port, SD card reader, express card slot, smart card reader, RJ45, RJ11, VGA.
768p and 900p screens are standard.
8460p can't take an mSATA SSD like the T420, but the 8470p can.
Did I say they are sturdy?

T430 is slightly wider and thinner than the 8470p.

That's about it.

>>57147517
Shipping prices are retarded high, and honestly im to lazy to do all that shit. i think you can buy broken thinkpads on ebay fot the cheap

>>57147543
Sure thing, figured I'd make an offer anyway.

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>>57147539
Picture

I got an E555, how badly did I fuck up, /g/?

>>57147539
>Holy shit, they are fucking tanks.
Lot heavier than thinkpads?

>>57146476
Looks like a X220

>>57147558
im honestly thinking about getting just a motherboard and screen for my 220 its only gonna be 100 bucks at max,

>>57147598
Same weight, if both have 6-cell batteries, optical drive and HDD.
2.2kg / 4.9lbs

>>57147650
Oh, and I forgot to mention, never saw an EliteBook hinge kick the bucket, but thinkpad's hinges seem much better.

>>57147666
How about battery life?

T400
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz 4gb Ram 160GB Hdd DVD

or

T400
Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 (2.26 GHz) 4 GB Memory 160 GB HDD

this is me>>57147409

>>57147732
8470p with 6 cell, HDD and optical drive, i5, 900p screen

>no dedicated GPU, medium brightness, youtube 1080p video playing
5.5 to 6 hours

>with dedicated GPU
4.5 to 5 h

>medium brightness, dedicated GPU activated and playing a DVD or a BluRay mkv remux
3 to 3.5h

>full brightness, dedicated GPU activated and doing heavy work
2h

That was what I tested.

>>57147150
Uhhh, buddy, the 2670QM was never in the W520. That was the 2760QM, which is indeed more powerful than the 2720. The only processors that you could get that were worse were the 2620M, which was a dual-core (and actually had better single-core performance). Apparently you could also get the W520 with i5s, but I've never seen one.

2720QM is still a good processor, but it was definitely the slowest quad core option in the W series when new.

>>57147222
Never on Thinkpads though. Just consumershit.

>>57147666
The hinges on my T400 were literally too good. They were too tight to be opened one-handed and they still are.

>>57147818
Thanks bro, I was leaning to Elitebooks, now I'm sold :) Elitebook 8470p it is

>>57147906
That's with a new battery though, your mileage may vary with used ones.

Is T420 heavy? I want to buy it and travel with it once in a while, can I?

>>57147813
the P8400 runs cooler (the t400 I gave waifu has one), fan hardly ever runs and when it does is super quiet. decent gaymen performance given the specs, she plays shit like sims 3/4, spore, LoL, etc running 1TB with SSD

>>57148084
What do you consider heavy?
It's heavy compared to a MacBook. By any other definition, it's not heavy.

>>57148084
Slightly heavier than your average 14 inch laptop. If you don't suffer from any muscle diseases you should be able to carry it no problem. It probably weighs as much as 2 texbooks (hard cover, science/history shit)

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T430 & T420 master race reporting in.

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>>57148120

I have a T400 with the P8400 and it's a fantastic machine. Throw another 4GB of RAM and an SSD into it and you'll basically have my daily driver.

If you want to do any gaming on it make sure and get the model with the HD3470 though. It's ancient by modern standards but still lightyears ahead of the Intel IGP. Windows 7 and I believe 8/8.1 have drivers available to let you switch GPUs on the fly (AMD for performance, Intel for battery life), but if you're using Windows 10 or loonix you'll have to switch it manually in the BIOS so it's less convenient.

Also, 16:10 is glorious but try to get one with a 1440x900 screen. Mine is 1280x800 and it's not terrible, but I do wish I had the extra resolution bump.

>>57148638
W10 swaps on the fly with the new lenovo settings app in the "store" FYI

loving my new t430 though tbqh, ironically (coming from someone who has used thinkpad extensively for over a decade) I am actually starting to prefer the chicklet style keys on the 430 over the old style used with the 400 (except key placements)

>>57148731

>W10 swaps on the fly with the new lenovo settings app in the "store" FYI

WHAT

Fuck, now I have to actually use the Windows 10 store

>>57148803
that's how it is with my T430, YMMV.

>>57147072
I ran Mint before and it was okay, but now I'm running Elementary OS on my T410 and I really like it.

I ordered an SSD from newegg on ebay on the 14th. Does anyone know what is it taking so long to update? It hasn't even shipped yet.

>>57148620
Why both?

>>57148936
T430 for me, T420 for my wife.

I'm guiding her into the light.

>>57148828
does your t430 run ok on w10? Did you have to put up with a lot of shit? Is it worth it or should I play it safe and stick to w7?

>>57148967
yeah it's pretty tank tbqh. daily driver wise, everything I've thrown at it from audio/video rendering to autist-level tabs open on chrome.

as far as gaymen is concerned, skyrim legendary edition on high/ultra with zero framedrops.

the only issue I had was the "FN" lock, if I hit the mute hardware button, it enables FN key lock and thus kills most functionality of the KB until it's reset in Lenovo settings. not sure what is causing this yet, but this machine is new to me (as of Monday morning)

>>57149025
>>57148967
and the battery saver setting that prevents charging past xx% (in my case it was 80), had to install lenovo energy control driver and use lenovo settings to manually set it to "stop charging" at 100%

>>57148954
T430 specs?

>>57148828

Yeah, there's no option there for me, the only display settings are for brightness.

>>57147490
Oh shit man.. hope I don't have a plastic rollcage or I'm fucked

>>57148856
Ask them.

>>57149045
i7 and nvidia GPU, 8GB RAM

>>57149025
>as far as gaymen is concerned, skyrim legendary edition on high/ultra with zero framedrops
Dedicated graphics right?

If i want to put in my X61 atheros card does it have to be from lenovo or any card with same chip as used in lenovo wifi card will be ok?

I've narrowed my choices down to the T460 T460p or the X260. I'm stuck trying to decide which is better to have, small i5 1080p machine, larger i5 1080p machine, or maxed out 1440p hot rod with the 45w i7 and dGPU. This will be my school laptop for working in the library taking to class etc. so you can see why I'm stuck between battery life and high performance. I've heard the T460p can get just under 10 hours if you're careful, which would be enough for me I suppose

>Inb4 just buy an old T420 or X220

I'd like modern specs and no cum stains plz

>>57149453
Check the whitelist, or flash modded BIOS.

>>57149453
You have to flash it with a bios that dosnt have wifi card restrictions

>>57149669
For school, I'd personally go with the X260 from those choices.

>>57149669
>>>/r/thinkpad

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>>57149669
>modern specs
>cumstains

>>57149719
>check the whitelist
where> They are not public AFAIK

>flash bios
i dont wanna

>>57149946
Don't be a bitch. Middleton's is easy as fuck to flash and should be considered essential for any *61 machine.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Middleton's_BIOS

>>57149990
I can vouch for this, it was the first thing I did when I got my T61. Easy as pie.

>>57149990
Your mom is a bitch. I just asking question about something else.

>>57150034
and you dont even know what such flash file from de interwebz really changes in your computer.

Question: during skype calls, the webcam led on my T430 sometimes goes blinks (just once, like going off and back on again), what does this mean?

>>57150134
Bad wire connection?
Skype fucking up?

>>57149946
Google the fucking whitelist. It sure as shit is public. Jesus christ.

Today I got a new HDD and a hard drive ultrabay adapter, I put everything together and turned my computer on and I get:
2102: detection error on HDD1

>>57151245
please google your issue before posting next time m8. its literally the 1st google result.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/2102-Detection-Error-on-HDD1-Ultrabay-HDD-on-w530/td-p/1342555
>Try reseating your ultrabay hard drive and see if it helps.

>This error code suggests that the ultrabay hard drive has failed or is about to fail

>>57151270
>brand new hard drive
>failed
i hope not

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/CSG/ here >>57151477 with a deal on €1/$1.10 Lenovo mice to go with your Thinkpad laptops.

>Anon bought a €1 Lenovo mouse (someone notify /TPG/ of this deal) >>57140087 then went back for four more >>57141510 also posts pic of underside mouse with its led >>57141590

>>57151754
would get, but i already have the $1 led gaming /csg/ mouse

What are the chances the retro thinkpad will have anti microbial keys ?

>>57147081
Nice config
But skylake on linux is still WIP

And the T460s CPU runs at 25W TDP so you can enjoy the extra frequency boost without any throttling.

The key travel is lower than the first chiclets but is acceptable. I'm not sure about the battery.

I can potentially get a ThinkPad Yoga 20CD for $250. Should I do it. Apparently the previous owner modified it quite a bit. I'll have to see the specs and condition in person.

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>>57152494
>shipping
>i'll have to see the specs and condition in person

>>57152561
I'm meeting them in person. I never said shipping. What are you talking about? A friend of a friend is selling it.

>>57146394
Where did you get that mousepad anon?

First time posting here in a while, but just a question about my X220.
Atm I have a clean Windows 7 install, but I decided I wanted to dual boot with Manjaro. I can clear up room for a partition just fine, but when I try to actually create it and install Manjaro I get an error.

Anyone got any ideas as to what the deal may be? For what it's worth, I'm using an SSD.

>>57147603
x220 has the icons

>>57146394
That looks comfy as fuck senpai

Which distro runs coolest on an x220
I prefer running xfce
OpenSUSE has me at 60C right now

>>57146725
Are you that dumbass from reddit that tried to hotswap a LVDS LCD cable ?

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>>57146319
New T430 bro calling in

>>57146257
I need a comfy linux machine for surfing and taking to my coding classes, is the X200 good enough for that kind of use?

>>57155621
x200 w/ccfl = hell no
x200(s) w/led @ 1280x800 = idk maybe
x200(s) w/led @ 1440x900 = comfy

you can simultaneously extend the battery life and increase performance on c2d cpus by undervolting + keeping the fsb multiplier locked at max

Does the T60 play 1080 video and if so, how? My animu is lagging.

>>57146371
>>57146319
Guys, guys, why not have both?
>>57148620

I found a X201 for $165. that's within range in the buyers guide. anyone has any experience with that machine? should i go for it?
Im a dev but this is a secondary machine. battery life is what's important here.

>>57156910
Because i have 8 computers already.


I think i might have a problem. Only 3 of those are thinkpads.

>>57156892
Are you streaming them? My X61t has issues playing 720p youtube but can playback 10 bit weeb cartoons somewhat smoothly at 70% CPU. It seems to be a bit better playing them off a SD card then the HDD because i haven't installed the custom BIOS.

I just got an X220T and I'm getting about 2 hours of battery life from the 6 cell battery. Is this normal of is the battery fucked?

>>57156986
Thats about 1/2-1/3 of what you should be getting. People say that you should be getting an hour per cell, but thats not really possible with real world usage ive found.

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>>57156911
$165 is on the pricey side; would have to be in excellent condition with all accessories for it to be worth

if battery life is all you care about, a low-voltage x200/x200s will get the job done; cheaper and will run cooler
get an x201 if you need the minor boost in cpu, though

well just got my t430 this morning
time to order an msata ssd + new ram, shit's gonna be great

>>57157141
>tfw im broke rn

Thats also a 1280x800 one based on the TYPE number in the photos
http://tp.krelay.de/index.php?type=7470ft7

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>>57157180
Aren't all X200 1280x800?

>>57157198
Nope.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X200s

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>>57157180
yeah, but :cheap:

if you didn't know already, quickeset way to tell between 1400x900 and 1280x800 x200s is to look at the lid

if there's a line at the top of the lid it's 1280x800 (see pic)

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>>57157215
if there's no line like this one, it should be 1400x900

>>57157223
>>57157215
Interesting. Ill remember to look for this if i ever get one.

I spent all my "computer stuff" budget for this month on some IDE drives for my G4 tower.

>>57154718
if the dumbass on reddit cried like a little bitch then yes that was me

By buying individual parts, would you theoretically be able to basically buy an out of production thinkpad that's basically completely new?

I'm wondering what to do with my x60s, it's a pretty nice machine but it goes to fucking 50-60 degrees C when just browsing the internet. How should I fix this? already applied thermal paste, was thinking of buying a new heatsink, anything else?

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>>57157621
You really don't fix it. The newer cpus (x61s board) are a tiny bit better. Another thing you can do to fix it is switch out the ultra-hot standard wifi card.

>>57157215
Are there higher resolution panels available for the x200s? I kind of want something smaller than my t60p, but the 1920x1200 panel I've got in there isn't something I'm willing to give up.

>>57157653
That would probably help, but what could I replace the wifi card with that won't need me to modify BIOS shit?

>>57157674
I've got a half-sized Intel 5300 533AN_HMWG2 in my t60p without any modifications. The bottom 4965AG card in that picture runs far cooler than the top one and both work in that x61s. The cards are around $5, so it might be worth a small risk to try one out.

>>57157672
nope, with lvds 16:10 @ 12.1" 1400x900 or 1280x800 is all you're going to get

x200/x200s/x201/x201s lids are interchangeable though

>>57157743
Is there a list of cards that will work or anything?

also, why do some programs refer to my x60s as a T43p?

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How do I decide between buying x220 or x230?
Both have IPS/8GB RAM/SSD.
Around the same price and condition.

>>57158374
x220

Better keyboard, better battery versatility.

>>57146319
>not frankenstein T440

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>>57158206
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card

I took a look around to check some things, turns out the 5300 is in my x61s with pin 20 taped. Works without any modifications in the x61s. This is apparently the whitelist-free slot that the x60s lacks.

I'd first take a look at tpfancontrol, then identify if the wifi card is a big enough heat source to replace, and attempt to modify a cooler card for use, in that order.

>>57158374
X230 will have better integrated graphics and chiclet keyboard (which may be a pro or a con).

X220 will have the older style keyboard, and the ability to use third party batteries.

is the rescue and recovery tool from lenovo useful, as, does it work? Have you guys ever used it

>>57158646
What does tpfancontrol do, list the heat of every part that produces it?

>>57158657
Aren't third party batteries bad anyway?

How much should a legit x200/x201 9-cell battery go for?

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what the fuck do I need in this? I'd think only the chipset support + IMES but why does there seem to be a duplicate for each of these

Hey /tpg/

I just recieved the t420 I ordered, but for some reason it doesn't have a res option higher then 1366x768, and only 99.99GB hard disk space despite seller description showing it 1600x900,

Should I contact the seller and return/replace it or is it some issue with the drivers?

>>57159199
Forgot to mention the HDD is supposed to be 320 GB

>>57159199
right click drive->propeties check model number but sounds like you got hosed senpai, resolution is set with default drivers in win 7/10

>>57159243
The drive just shows max 99.99 capacity and I just found out there are models with 1366x768 screen resolution,

I think I am just going to return this one, a shame, I was liking everything else about it.

Pajeet ebay is not trustworthy after all.

>>57159343
the resolution isn't so bad, for the 14" screen it's decent when you tweak shit like taskbar, etc.

I am an advocate for stretching the piss out of available screen resource but I've taken a liking to the 1368x

>>57159356
Still I think I can get better t420 the one that would ACTUALLY have 1600x900 and HDD for similar price, so I guess I'd opt for that.

Tbh I think the seller was tech illeterate and didn't bother past checking device specs on internet.

>>57159408
do what I did;

>be me
>buy note 3 because LG G4 caught the bootloop issue (bad BGA) and melted
>use shit tier WIND Mobile in Canada, Note 3 has band 4 support for AWS/LTE so why not
>phone arrives
>never connects to WIND home zone, barely stays connected to WIND away zone (using major carrier towers)
>contact ebay seller
>"try restarting"
>"did that"
>"try a factory reset"
>"did that too." while inserting a list of firmwares I flashed with odin, pictures of the signal strength with and without external antenna
>"ya totally seems like an issue with the antenna, do you want to replace it or would you like something else like S5?"
>agree
>seller sends replacement phone with shipping label to send original phone back
>keep original phone and give to waifu

>>57159199
>>57159243
>>57159454
welp, just got off the phone with seller

Turns out he just left the HDD unallocated, still no solution on screen res, but dude claimed he didn't put anything there and now that I see it he either removed it or I had seen some other listing(he probably removed it).

The 1366x768 is not looking too bad now that I look at it desu, I think I will just keep it and there is some stuff about having the wrong drivers etc, so maybe I'll look into that too.

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>>57159513
Thanks for the responses though

>pic related is tha thikpad

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>>57159568
if you put W10 on it, shrink the taskbar down, it helps with 1368x

>t. t430

>>57159568
how much did you pay for it anyway?

>>57159608
I am gonna debian on it, and go full /gentooman/, why do you think I got a thinkpad to begin with? This is the first step.

>>57159630
14,450 rupees, that may sound overpriced($220-230) but in India that's actually cheap given that I got 20% discount and others are selling at 22,000 rupees.

>>57159656
I'll sell you a T420 with i7 2640m, 16GB ram 1TB hybrid SSD for that. 9.5/10 (one side of the dock clip is broken) for that

>>57159701
And i'd buy it, if I had any money left and you were wiling to ship it to India for that.

>>57159739
>be me
>go to DHL for quote
>CAD325.49
nope

>>57151754
I am tempted to buy, but I can steal Lenovo mice from work for free, and I already have more mice than computers.

>>57158687
The only time I ever used it was when I ordered my T400 with Windows XP, but then realized it was causing problems for new specialty software used by my university, so then I wiped and installed Vista using the recovery.

Haven't used it since because I just clone the hard drive with Windows 7 backup and restore.

T410 any gud?

>>57154311
Install TLP

How durable is the keyboard? Can I play osu safely?

If I get a T60 (1600x1200 is great) and install Puppy Linux or Lubuntu will it be a good general web browser/document writer for school? I've heard any YouTube video above 480p will make the laptop stutter.

What can you do with a thinkpad to get the most out of it.

>>57160390
It's one of the more durable keyboards you'll see on any laptop, both the old type and the new type.
And if it breaks, a new one is about $20-$30 shipped, taking about 5 minutes of work to replace.

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Are they really better?

>>57160390
Yeah it's more than fine, i play Osu and Stepmania almost daily.

My x220 just arrived

I paid $125 with free shipping for the dock, power cable, and normal laptop with 8gb of memory and it is all in very good condition

the best part, I messaged the seller asking a bogus question about shipping, and the name that the seller had was one that is typically feminine

>tfw some girl didn't know the value of her laptop

anon is happy

Why are the loudspeakers in the x220? Both the placement, volume and sound quality are shit. I'm gunna have to buy some chink IEM's from /CSG/

>>57161772
go with either sony or JVC gummies for IEM

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>>57159017
traditionally genuine 9 cell 47++ are ~30-40 bucks or that's how much I've paid for mine on ebay with shipping

if you do intend on purchasing a battery through a third-party my undolicited advice is to check the seller's location on their profile page. I have nothing against asians but you wouldn't want a fake battery from a shady chinese dealer as they have been known to hold a charge very poorly

>>57159513
And this, folks, is why you do not buy from anywhere other than eBay, possibly Craigslist if you can actually see the machine and get a good price on it.

>>57161555
Not necessarily. T4x machines had issues with motherboard flex.

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First post on new t530 I just got.

Just Ordered a T420s with an i7 and an nvidia gpu for $250. Did i get chinked?

>>57162427
Also it has the 1600x900 display.

>>57149669
>Not supercharging a T420 with an i7 2720, 16 gb of RAM and an SSD
Fucking PLEB.

>>57161161
>Use as a dedicated chan laptop.
>Use it to start distro wars on /g/.
>Use it to aquire digital booty.
>Use it to get /fit/.
>Use it's superior keyboard to start another skinwalker thread on /x/.
>Install memedistro X
>Memedistro X sucks use memedistro Z
>Paint it white and pretend its the fruity hipster fondling Mac you really want.
>Take pictures of it on your space station.
>Lightly caress red keyboard nipple with maximum ergonomics.

Want to get an ssd and replace the HDD. The 2.5 inch bay takes drives that are 7 inches but the dimensions of an ssd I'm interested in (samsung evo 750) is 6.8 inches. Will I have any issues?

Thinkpad is an X220.

>>57162366
>new
I would get a new trackpad sticker for that.
Only a few bucks but its so much nicer when they aren't worn.

>>57162444
All T420s have the 1600x900.

>>57162734
>tfw no supercharged t420
how much shekels is a quad core i7 anyway

>>57162883
I meant new as in I just bought it. It is used.

>>57162366
>New
>*Stares hard at the keyboard*
>Sure as fuck don't look like new.
If thats new i'll travel to the nearest local zoo and slap a penguin in the face with a boxed version of sony vegas pro.

>>57162880
Get an msata ssd and keep the hdd for storage.

>>57162895
this >>57162893

>>57162880
No

>>57162898
I just planned my route to the zoo on googlemaps and charged my spare X200 battery.
You fucking cocktease.

>>57162897

Can't stand the hdd noise so I'm just gonna switch over to an ssd.

Probably smarter to use a msata/hdd combo but im anal about noisey computers.

>>57162960
Then msata ssd + ssd

gotta go fast

>>57162977

That's the plan but I'm paycheck to paycheck right now so that's the goal.

>>57162940
what the fuck? I have no clue what you are talking about.

>>57162884

Too much. It has thermal problems under load anyway. The cooling system isn't designed for it.

If you need something with that kind of power just buy a w520, it'll probably be cheaper than buying the processor separately anyway.

>>57163006
If you are paycheck to paycheck right now, bite the bullet and keep the hdd. Jesus. Improve your financial situation before you buy shit you don't absolutely need.

>>57163017
This man was getting ready to fulfill his promise of traveling to the nearest zoo and slapping a penguin in the face with a boxed version of sony vegas pro, when your clarification made the promise null and void.

>>57163043
Danks

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>>57146476
>>57147490
>>57147603
I've got two x230s that look just like that too...

Probably they just took the stickers off when they got factory refurbished after coming back from contract lease from a big corp., part of the condition upon ending of use was likely them scrubbing all identifying info from them

I have a t530 with an i7 processor. Under moderate use the CPU temp gets up to 70 C. Does this mean I need to replace the cooling paste soon?

>>57163019
Nah i can't stand laptops bigger than 14".

I remember some anon posted his quad core t420 temperatures while stressing the cpu with cpu-z, it had the same temperatures that my 2520m has under load, around 90c.

are there any major advantages to the t430 over the t420?

i need a machine with a sandy bridge or newer CPU and as much screen space as i can get on the cheap, anyone here have any advice on models to check out? ive had bad experiences with elitebooks and latitudes, so im not really looking at them

Just got a chinkpad yoga 20fd. the keyboard really is shit, i thought it was too much of a meme to be true but nope, always follow the memes.

>>57163221
The T420 models are quite good, especially if you can get a t420s or a t420 with the 1900x900 display.

>>57163277
thats what im gunning for, im just still not keen on that res on only 14", id ideally like an inch more or so, or a step up in resolution desu

>>57163027

Kek. I meant as in it's not in my budget for a while considering various expenses I have. I always put some money aside for tertiary shit at the expense of other forms of entertainment.

>>57163311
Well, it's not bad. 14" is a good size in my opinion. nice and portable, with good visibility.

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What do you /g/oys think about the T440P ?

>>57163689
Good enough for shitpost, good enough for anything.

>>57162366
Neat, I've got a T530 too. It's a lovely machine. Your keyboard looks pretty worn though. If you're considering installing an mSata SSD then I can highly recommend it. it sped mine up in an insane way.

thinkpad newbie here. Besides the T and X series, are any of the other series worth looking into?

>>57163363

14" is a surprisingly large improvement over 13.3" imo

>>57162366
>not a t430

pleb

nice though.
get yourself a new keyboard, new touchpad sticker, take it apart and repaste cpu

while you repaste cpu, go ahead and clean up the speaker grill with a qtip and a little bit of alcohol

welcome to the club. I am very glad I picked a t430 over a t420, the only downside is the battery DRM. it sucks that they removed keys from the keyboard, but as for the feeling itself the chiclet keys are very nice

you can also get a backlit keyboard

>>57163819
I didn't know I could get a backlit keyboard.

>>57163819

I always use a toothbrush that I dip into a container of rubbing alcohol to clean up computers. It's alot more efficient than qtips

Any news on the retro

>>57163909
it's not gonna happen

>>57163956
Cool

>>57163956
Fuck

>>57163909
FUCK

>>57163909
>>57163909
What laptops should we buy in 5-10 years when Thinkpads are no longer fast enough?

>>57163990
Whatever you want I guess

/g/ from the bottom of my heart, I'm glad I bought the ThinkPad. Though the thread recommends an X220, I bought an X230. It is a great laptop, best I've ever seen or own. I used to sell consumer shit to people, and my god, what garbage that shit is.

Thank you /g/, I'm glad I fell into this "meme". Best one ever!

Long live these badass laptops!

>>57163990
I bet in 2025 sandy bridge will still be usable.

>>57163064
It's not just the stickers that are missing, there's no markings what so ever.

>>57164220
Maybe they have faded with use.

>>57164256
Perhaps, but out of the half-dozen or so there should be, I'd expect to see at least a partial print someplace. The laptop generally sits on feet, so unless somebody is gliding the thing over their dick repeatedly, I don't see how they could all vanish.

>>57164295
How about someone that uses their laptop extensively on their lap?

>>57164318
Unless they're fat as fuck, and rubbing that shit like sandpaper on their voluminous crotch daily, I still can't see it.

>>57164171
Yeah, they run pretty great still.
my T420s' i7 still packs a punch.

>>57163990
Core 2 Duo is still solid for most tasks in 2016. Sandy/Ivy Bridge Thinkpads will never be obsolete performance-wise. I/O is the real threat. If USB Type-A or SATA die off, we're all fucked.

>>57162884
>how much shekels is a quad core i7 anyway
It should be around 75 obamashekels. Used of course. I wasn't able to find any new i7 2720

Anyone used both Elitebook 2760p Tablet and X220T? How do these two compare?

I can't find neither X220T/X230T locally, but I see some elitebooks for 235 euros
It looks uglier than Thinkpad but seems like my only option

>>57161684
Nice blog faggot

>>57163909
it'll be shit

like everything lenovo touches

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I'm seriously considering this T420 from Newegg for travel. It's manufacturer refurbished, comes with Windows 10 and 8gb of ram.

Is this a good bargain? thanks in advance

>>57166776
forgot the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T420S-14-0-Grade-A-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50-GHz-320-GB-HDD-8-GB-/291916060738?hash=item43f78d9842:g:o0YAAOSw-CpYB3DS

from newegg's ebay store

>>57166789
it seems little pricey for such a small hdd, but it's grade a so i guess that makes sense. check out newegg's website to see if anything is cheaper, but i'd get it if that's what you want since t420s and x220s have been rising in price lately

>>57166789
>s
Soldered cpu and thinner battery than the t420.

Still good if you don't care about that though.

>>57166825
>>57166833
thanks for the feedback friends. after some thought I'll be looking into the regular T420 instead. The option to replace the DVD drive for an additional hard drive is ideal for storing my videos and would eliminate having to carry an extra hard drive in my bag.

thanks again senpai for all the assistance. I've read great things about the durability of Thinkpad laptops and I'm banking on it to last Trump's two terms in office

>>57167438
>The option to replace the DVD drive for an additional hard drive is ideal for storing my videos and would eliminate having to carry an extra hard drive in my bag.
Run 3 drives at the same time and go crazy.

>tfw ssd + 2x 4tb hdds

I've realized I prefer using the T400 for browsing the internet over the X201 not only because of the screen size, but because the T400 runs much cooler and quieter.

>>57167955
t series is always better imo

Any recommendations on a specific brand of RAM for a x220? 4gb is no longer good enough, and im pretty sure 16 gb is available with an i5.

Any memory capacity you guys think is adequate enough?

>>57169042
I'm a heavy Photoshop user and 8 seems fine to me

>>57169042
Nothing wrong with 8.

>>57169042
PS isn't that bad unless you rape it with a monster reso. Android Studio, on the other hand, will absolutely suck without at least 16gb.

Do all T420 come with the nvidia quadro? I just did a fresh install of Win7 on the T420 I bought last week, and it shows on speccy.

>>57169463
No, some only have the iGPU like mine.

>>57169482
So I got lucky? Seller didn't say anything about the igpu

>>57169491
>I got lucky?
I guess so, depends of how you're going to use your ThinkPad imo.

From my point of view I'd rather have the iGPU only so i can use a quadcore i7 instead of the stock CPU. Having to share the heatsink with the dGPU + extra 10W from the quadcore i7 equals housefire, plus the T420 NVS isn't that much better.

Even then if you want to play some games there's the T430 with better iGPU and also a dGPU option. Or you could do fuck all and just get an eGPU.

>>57169590
If I do get the i7 can I disable to dGPU and just use the Intelshit graphix?

So I bought a T420 with a 2640m, 8gb ram and a 128gb SSD. The hard drive is SATA 2, so I was thinking of upgrading to a bigger SATA 3 drive.

How much space do I need if I'm planning on dual booting Windows and debian? Also, is there any reason to get an mSATA, considering it's SATA 2? For a secondary drive would you guys put an SSD in the ultrabay or mSATA?

>>57169590
using intel GPU on my T430 I can play skyrim on ultra settings with 4k texture replacements, fallout 4 on low/medium mix

>>57169598
I guess, but keep in mind that if you upgrade to a quad core you'd still be sharing the heatsink with the dGPU and the quad core releases more heat under load than the stock dual cores.

There's also the original dual core i7s though.

>>57169619
Yeah that's why i suggested that if you want to play some games you're better getting the T430 imo.

>>57169611
>is there any reason to get an mSATA, considering it's SATA 2?
The option to have 3 drives at the same time or 2 drives + optical drive on your laptop. You won't notice the difference between SATA2 and SATA3 in daily usage anyway.

>would you guys put an SSD in the ultrabay or mSATA?
I got msata as main SSD and 2 storage HDDs, replacing one of them for the optical drive when i need to rip audio CDs.

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>>57147329
I want to get one to see.
They are usually cheaper than competing T420/30 and E6420/30, however it some people may freakout that the dGPU units have AMD Radeon HD cards than nVidia NVS Quadros, it would cripple when it comes to that CUDA core crap photoshop fags need.

No mSATA though :(

Does the t460 have an M.2 and sata port for a boot ssd and storage drive?

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I'm reapplying thermal paste to my x220 that idles really hot.

Should I go ahead and replace the thermal pad on the PCH with AS5? I've heard conflicting advice here.

>>57170526
also, should i remove the tape from the heatsink?

>>57170526
Keep the thermal pad, I usually mush it together so it applies pressure

If not, copper shim ftw.

RETRO PAD UPDATE
GET HYPE
CHOO CHOO 2017

13:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-a-rX5zp-U

>>57154835
>>57146319
Can confirm T430 is mustard rice.
>>57147329
They're shit. I used to work for HPE and we were issued both 8460p and later we got Elitebook 750's. They keyboard is a pain in the ass to use, and the clit mouse is even worse. Avoid them at all costs, unless you have no other choice. I don't know about their durability, I used to treat mine very well since it was a company asset and I didn't want them fucking with me about it. But still, I remember seeing a lot of the 750's getting BSOD quite often and some coworkers even went through 3 or 4 before getting a working model.

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Used X230 on eBay for 189€ ($205).
The buyers guide lists it at $350, should I buy it anyways? The merchant on eBay has a ton of positive ratings.

>>57172145
Positive ratings dont really mean shit, but if you buy over PayPal and the seller fucks you over, eBay will always side with you.

>>57171073
>old-style thinkpad with modern hardware could be out in less than two years

PRAISE WHITE GOD.

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>used gaming PC for a decade
>died
>buy dankpad
>plays indie shit and CSGO decently enough
>bulb dies in old DLP television
>curb it, Bluetooth dankpad to living room stereo and watch movies on it
>tfw $200 laptop has become my desktop, portable, gaming rig, and media center

Think I'm going to get a projector, what is the Thinkpad of projectors? Just want 1080p and possibly the ability to adjust audio delay.

what are the must install drivers on a fresh memepad? I already got the important stuff (graphics, network, ultranav, power, camera)

>>57174763
K-lite codec pack

>>57174763
bonzi buddy

>>57174804
dank
dank to the max my duderino

>>57157776
I can testify, my X201 has the X200s 1440x900 installed. The front of that display is also flatter. It does not have the protruding "bar" at the bottom over the indicator lamps for WLAN, disk, power, etc. And I've been told it has some form of a small roll cage inside. It does feel sturdier than my 1280*800 but I have not opened it to check. Also, 1440x900 is LED only and never comes in a CCFL variant, and is always 250 nits.

>>57158825
Not the other anon, on my X61T it did exactly that in a popout window. Every full-height WLAN card I've tried has been total garbage in X-series laptops, especially slimmer ones. I was testing with the palmrest off and it took most of the old Centrino and Atheros cards only 30 seconds to get uncomfortably hot. Intel 6205 and 6300 are your best friends.

>>57162073
>And this, folks, is why you do not buy from anywhere other than eBay, possibly Craigslist if you can actually see the machine and get a good price on it

I once ordered a T60p on amazon and was sent a T61p with a bad GPU. When I asked about false advertising, the seller began calling me euphemisms for "ungrateful asshole" and asking why I was wary of getting a later model, even though I explained the issue with rev1 and rev2 GPUs to him.
Instead of living with getting shafted, I just resold the T61p the honest way, made a couple dollars of profit, and got an X201.

I won't go into the story about a company attempting to charge me an absurd amount of money to return a Chinese X200T battery I got when I ordered a X61T battery. Amazon is fucking garbage and they use USPS which is for no-talent fat idiots who can't pursue a real job.

>>57163990
5-10?! I've been testing out Broadwell and Skylake laptops this year and the best ones are almost indistinguishable from my T420 other than being able to use less energy in suspend. They keep making the batteries/chassis thinner and it's just going to negate all the CPU efficiency improvements.
>anecdotal shit
I tried a 2015 MacBook Pro with an i7 and it was total junk, which shocked me. 16GB RAM and a 2880*1800 display driven by Iris Pro, PCIe SSD, yet it moved like molasses and overheated while copying files around. My MacBook Air didn't do this, and my Hackintosh sure doesn't do it.

On the other hand, I would be upgrading every year if laptops had case layout/size standards allowing us to make an X40 with a MacBook Air 2016's motherboard inside of it.

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So I got this old R61 thinkpad with the ol' Proof of License sticker from Microsoft on the back.
I can read the product key great and all, but damn me if I can read what OS it's for.
How do I find out? I got a hunch it could be Vista Home -something- just from the amount of smudges present. BUT it says 2005 on the license and 61 thinkpads were released a bit later I think.
Is it worth installing this Vista? Can I somehow upgrade the license?
Thanks

>>57174228
Is the Thinkpad mouse nice?

>>57175116
At least they arent UPS. They cant seem to do anything right where i live.

>>57175288
with microsoft COA, you can usually tell by the color for home/business. corporate licenses are a different story

I found T430 for 375 $
and T420 for 305 $

They both have 120GB SSD, 1600x900 res and 8GB ram.
Is it worth it to pay 70$ more for T30?

T440 comes in today

What sort of rituals do I need to do to join the thinkcult?

>>57175568
depends on the cpu I would say.
T420 keyboard is more comfy than 430.

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I think something is busted here or I'm not getting something. The bezel won't pop into place properly on this side. I guess I should take it apart to see what's wrong

>>57175908
cheeto dust gets stuck in the keys and flug up the lid by the fan when you press the turbo button senpai

>>57175956
thanks, it's working now

>>57175585
well 420 has i5 Sandy bridge
430 has i5 Ivy bridge

>>57175568
You'd be paying $70 more for:
>Ivy Bridge instead of Sandy Bridge
>Better iGPU
>Worse keyboard layout
>Battery DRM

>>57171073
>issues with aspect ratio availability
holy shit 16:10 confirmed

>>57176090
inb4 its 16:9 with a giant bottom bezel like the T420/T430

what prices should i trust for a x220?
on ebay i see some for $150, but others are $300. whats the deal with the price diffrence and does it really matter?

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I've got a t420 with an i5 coming in the mail. I found this on ebay, and thought it would be worth it just to take out the i7, and put that in my thinkpad. any thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-XT3-13-3-Laptop-Intel-i7-2640M-2-8GHz-4GB-RAM-No-HDD-OS-/142154720277?hash=item211914e415:g:7GUAAOSwHMJYB-pU

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>got a Dell E7440 to flip
>liked it a lot at first
>dat ips display
>but then the i7 killing the battery
>mfw not even 3 hours w/ wifi and haslel
>likes to get warm quickly
Other than these problems, the laptop is decent
Do I like it more than my T430s? Definately not
I'll have to get a T440s to really compare em, but so far it seems better built than the T440p

>>57176089
What is Battery DRM?

>>57176394
yeah why not as long as you don't overpay, it's a dual core though

>>57176460
only allowed to use genuine lenovo batteries

>>57176394
those laptops seem to go for a little bit more than a standalone 2640m, which goes for $58 and free shipping

Any canucks know of a place that's good for buying ram?

Looks like I'm stuck buying from newegg but the prices are ridiculous. Only brand of 16 gb for an x220 that's relatively decently priced is called mushkin.

I'm not sure what brands are worth it when it comes to RAM.

>>57176487
Sorry, I'm very new to ebay. You think that price will be bid up alot? 'Cause right now the laptop's like half the price of the processor alone

>>57176517
Yes. view sold listings and choose i7 2nd gen for processor type. They go for ~$100

>>57176470
Are there any quad cores that fit in the t420 socket, though?

Any canucks know of a place that's good for buying ram?

Looks like I'm stuck buying from newegg but the prices are ridiculous. Only brand of 16 gb for an x220 that's relatively decently priced is called mushkin.

I'm not sure what brands are worth it when it comes to RAM.

>>57176556
2630qm, 2670qm, 2720qm, 2760qm, 2820qm, 2860qm, 2920xm, 2960xm.

Here's an anon from the last thread using a 2720qm on his/her/whatever t420 >>57135173

>>57176639
I'm sure this comes up alot, so thanks for answering. Not sure I need the extra power though, given it will run a little hotter. Is the quad core that much faster?

>>57176639
>XM processors
lmao i'd like to see a t420 with a 55w tdp cpu, that would be Note 7 territory.

>>57176690
Look at benchmarks and compare.

I know this is the ThinkPad general, but does anyone have experience with thinkvision monitors? I'm thinking of getting a cheap one of 1440x900 for use as a second screen to my 1920x1080 laptop.

>install mSATA SSD
>boots mint and windows in under 15 seconds

Why didn't I do this before.

Should I buy T420 for 187€
has 4GB ram and 320Gb HDD

or for 280€
has 128gb SSD and 8GB ram

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X60s reporting in

>>57163819
>not knowing you can solve both problems at once by flashing the embedded controller

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>>57177421

Either....depends on if you want an SSD H/drive. I've never own a Computer with an SSD so I can't comment on how much better they are compared to SATA.

SATA H/drives are quick enough for what I do.

>>57176089
Bottom two are non issues and can be fixed

>>57175116
Dude whenever I have a problem with something from Amazon I just send it back. So what if one of their third party sellers calls you names? Grow a fucking backbone.

>>57176451
I've actually been thinking of these as an alternative to the xx40 Thinkpads. I like the dedicated volume buttons and the general lack of asinine design decisions. Battery life is meaningless to me since I have a T500 which lasts maybe 10 or 15 minutes on a charge (had the computer since it was two years old, and it's the original 2009 battery). The IPS screen alone is a major selling point.

>>57176720
Even W series with the 55W CPUs get really hot.

About to pull the trigger on an x260, is it worth it or is a carbon better?

>>57176331
I guess maybe some have an SSD and others an HDD or something

>>57176331
just get the cheapest one on ebay
maybe if there's one with an ssd for like $40 more (and it's a 250+gb one) then get it if you really want.

>>57177421
What resolution are they, if the SSD one is higher I would probably go for it. But that's me

anyone else here drink IPA?

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What's the best way to trade and sync files between my Thinkpad and main Laptop?

So far I'm leaning towards Onedrive, but what would you do?

Any of you reapplied thermal paste before? I have a t530 with a dGPU and I am going to reapply thermal paste tomorrow since the CPU gets up to 70 C. When I take off the heatsink pipe, do I also need to reapply paste to the part that covers the GPU?

>>57179471
Owncloud or something you host yourself.

>>57179952
Yes

>>57179952
yes you need to re paste both
although 70c under load is really good, and even if it's not full load (just a decently heavy load) that's really good.

New thread:
>>57180284