/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

first for quad core t420/t430

>>57180300
enjoying your laptop that throttles worse than a 2011 macbook pro?

t430s the bestest

Tbqh t440p 1080p ips ssd good enough for a good shit post portable

>>57180392
>8 threads at 3GHz
Dunno if that's worse than a 2011 MBP but yeah I'll take it.

>>57180519
yeah without gpu load
and mine can stay at a solid 3.4ghz at 80-85c without gpu load

OK guys, I'm looking for a cheap laptop, don't mind if it's used, to install Linux on it. I don't need any good specs since I'm just going to use a wm like i3 or something. Any suggestions?

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my university has this dumb thing, idk if i can get a different laptop than these. which one should i pick? i'm thinking about the thinkpad since it's the cheapest out of the bunch, but i thought i might as well get some more input

>>57180736
Wtf kind of university do you go to?

>>57180736

You can't get decent enough used Laptops off Ebay for $150 to $200 no problem.

>>57180736

*can

>>57180785
a&m (i know)
>>57180802
i'd love to buy one of those used for $200 if someone were crazy enough to sell it that low. i meant these are their "approved" devices

>>57180536
Runs at 70c with madVR on the iGPU but for heavy use i have an eGPU.

My stock 2520m had the same temps that i get now even when repasted, never went below 90c on load so I'd call it an upgrade anyway.

Also
>muh coars

>>57180693
pick a budget. pick a thinkpad that is inside the budget. install your favorite linux, install i3. done.

Basically anything with an i3 (CPU) is going to have enough computing power.

>>57180865
>a&m
Whats wrong with that?
They have a great entomology program, wish Id gone there desu

>>57180865
a&m has a badass math department

>>57180955
even core 2 duos will be okay

A friend has a T400 running Antergos and plays videos with interpolation on mpv.

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>>57180392
>enjoying your laptop that throttles
yes

>>57180972
>>57180961

A&M alum are like cultists

It's embarrassing

>tfw own a t530
>keyboard is too big and uncomfortable for my faggot hands
Im getting a classic keyboard hoping it fixes things, the size is perfect but typing away in it for hours is a bitch

X220 died, do I buy a new one for 250$ (cheapest I can find in my area) or do I save up for a MacBook air

>>57180961
>>57180972
oh haha thanks guys. sorry sometimes i worry that people make fun of it b/c i didn't pick UT since i get auto admission or that i didn't try to get into rice

>>57181054
the classic keyboard feels worse, and is slightly taller than the t540 keyboard

i got me a t420 with the 900p panel for uni shit, specifically prolog GOFAI agent programming, compilers with bison and flex, and data mining with WEKA

did i dun goofed? should i have gotten a bigger machine with a higher res panel?

>>57181653
>did i dun goofed?
no

>should i have gotten a bigger machine with a higher res panel?
you tell me

>>57181710
hasnt arrived yet senpai
i got an elitebook much cheaper with the same specs and an inch more screen space, which was pretty comfy, but it was not to be

>>57181057
You fix that shit baka

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>buying a stinkpad to get actual work done
>not just getting one of these

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>>57180284

x220 or e6230?
both with 8gb and 128gb ssd, both with new battery. Both exactly the same price?
Which one would you pick and why?

Best thinkpad/business class laptop for graphic design? Blender, photoshop, etc. It'd be a gift, but I need one that will work.

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x220 is comfy desu

I know this is the ThinkPad general, but does anyone have experience with thinkvision monitors? I'm thinking of getting a cheap one of 1440x900 for use as a second screen to my 1920x1080 laptop.

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>>57182189
Actually, one of these would allow you to get serious work done in style. The very terminal VI was created on, replete with a dedicated : key.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eB3QBNP9Bg

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Can I be a meme too ? (‿)

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>>57183062
I agree

>>57182200
I can't get my smartcard reader working on my X200 with what I thought were the proper cards

I want to get a express card for USB 3.0 for my T420, what are the transfer speeds like on the card? is it worth bothering?

>>57183619
just get one and try, they're dirt cheap

>>57183619
The read speeds were much better on my flashdrive, but the write speeds were the same as a usb 2 port. It also gets warm when it is used for a while.

I don't know what I fucked up.

I reapplied thermal past to CPU, left thermal pad on PCH, restarted. At first CPU temps stayed at 85-95C, but it turns out it's because windows was running updates. I restart the machine, and it's idling at 40 and goes to 50C when watching my FHD 10bit tentacle fetish chink cartoons. I'm ecstatic, I thought I was going to have to trash it soon.
I'm prompted for a battery firmware update, sure why not, run it. It fails halfway through, ok, no problem, continue what I was doing.

I shut it off for the night. The next morning it won't even post. The bluetooth and wifi status leds blink accompanied by a constant beeping. The laptop doesn't seem to charge or turn on.

I leave for work, come back, try again, nothing. I remove the battery, and this time it doesn't do shit, ded.

I remove everything, disconnect power, do the 10 count power button press with the thirty second hold. Still dead. I put the battery back in and connect power. Doesn't do shit but this time the LED light indicates it's charging. It was orange, now it's green. I'll try turning it on again in a bit.

My RAM just came in today, this guy was gonna be my little beast. Any ideas to revive it?
If I'm not drunk later, I'll probably try taking it apart again.

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just bought a high spec T460 how fucked am i?

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WIENERS OUT
GRAB WHAT YOU GOT
GRAB WHATS GOING AWAY
POST THEM!!
>T430s 1080p IPS mod
>E7440 i7 16GB 128GB SSD IPS throttle and dead battery fuck
>8740w that has shit USB ports
>cuckbook 2010 with ssd and macOSX
>another cuckbook with El Capt
>Pixel because best facebook music machine
>7440 with shit display
>Helix because fml

>>57182200
Three? goddamn

>>57183856
Hmmm
T20- T22 had the blink of death issue, amybe it was that?
Macbooks had GPU problems maybe it was that?
Older Dells had shit tier parts, maybe it was that?
T61p were plagued with GPU issues maybe it was that?
T4x had GPU chassis flex problems maybe it was that?
You didn't post what laptop you had, and never got any good help because of it, maybe it was that?

>>57184536
t430

Why is this thread so fucking dead

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>>57184788
Add something to it?

>>57184809
but i haz only a t61 beater and an incomplete x41

i am unworthy

>>57184536
disregard
>>57184690
i have an x220 tablet.

I'm currently following the lenovo service training videos in the hope it will make a difference

>>57183062
Is that FFXI?

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>>57184823
I love my x40. I wish I could use it more.

>>57184536
My iPhone is an idiot and won't connect to my X201's USB ports. I had a photo of the T60p 15.4", T420, X201 with X200s screen, and X61T with SXGA screen. Honorable mentions: a bunch of old shit including a fully functional Mac SE/30

My T60p's palm rest is a badly molded piece of shit that bulges out, and I was thinking of just sticking a trackpad-less R61e 15.4" palmrest on there instead. Does anyone know what the little piece of plastic that covers the (nonexistent) SD slot on the T60/T60p 15.4" models looks like? I think I misplaced mine and I moved in August.

>>57184536
windows phone wont attach pictures to emails noe for some reason.
>Lelnovo G50-80 for light pc gayming
>PowerBook G4 (2nd gen) because ive always wanted one
>X61t Because i was curious about the tablet thing
>iBook G4 (last gen) Its a comfy shitposting machine thats pretty snappy now that i maxed out the RAM
Thinkpad G40 I use it to make sure my arms dont go twig status
>thinkpad T420 the best main computer i will probably ever have

>>57184915

The IBM logo looks awesome.

>be me
>about to recommend someone refurbished Thinkpad 220s
>check vendor site to see current prices
>2 left in stock
>i5s
>300€
>used battery
Holy shit they're flying off shelves. When I bought mine there they were like 50€ cheaper and they had multiple versions 20+ units each in stock.
Is 2016 the year of the X220?

>>57187044
It's meme magic, my friend.

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ALL RIGHT, LADS, PICK A DISTRO FOR MY X201

>>57187204
slackware seems to be the current flavor of the month "hip distro", debian is always nice; but you could go for a super lightweight distro like puppy or lubuntu just to dick around.

>>57184536
ayy senpai, how compatible is the t420 with the t440 IPS panel? know if you can plug the whole t440 screen assembly into a t420?

After reading the guide, I've narrowed my choices down to two:

>HP EliteBook 8730w
>Dell Precision M6400

I like the W700 quite a bit, but I'd prefer to spend under $300

The most demanding thing I'd be doing is running Skyrim (mid settings) on Fedora 25

Which is the superior tank, /g/?

>>57187230
I'll try Xubuntu instead of Lubuntu. Heard a lot of good stuff about it.

>>57187520
the 8730w is 2old man, get the 8740w if you want an elitebook. the only thing i will say about elitebooks is that they cant take water for shit, dont even get a splash of water on them, because it will kill the cunt, trust me.

skip dells, their trackpoints are shit, their screens are shit, and their wrist rests will dig into your wrists painfully over time.

My x61 is getting a little dusty, any tips for thinkpad cleaning?

How do I assign touchpad on my t420 to dedicated scrolling?
trackpoint already serves as a pointer and the tp is just lying there, actually what different use can you make of it?
currently on Win7, gonna install debian later/

>>57180955
OK thanks.

I have a x220i with windows 10 where the trackpad and pointer stopped working. Actually anything related to mouse input built in stopped working just suddenly. The keyboard works, but not pointer mouse buttons or touch pad.
I tried reinstalling drivers but nothing, I checked device manager at it said there was some problems and it might be because it's not connected.
Funny thing is keyboard works fine and USB mice.
I took the keyboard out and reseated the cables, still nothing. I replaced the entire keyboard with a keyboard from a second x220i I have, still nothing.

Very strange. Any suggestions? I have yet to try and replace the touchpad from my second x220i and see what happens.

>>57188008
try booting ganooix

>>57187424
Nope needs a custom adapter board

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>>57181026
To be fair, the T400 has the last generation Core2Duos. The Merom thinkpads are a lot less powerful.

I love my T400 though. Stupidly reliable and fast for the price. A souped up one isn't too much slower than some first gen I5s.

On another note: does anyone know if it's possible to shove a quad core in this laptop? I've read conflicting advice and I'm not sure. Is the T9900 much faster than my current CPU?

>>57188071
fug
how easy is the panel swap? i got a 900p t420, but i sure wouldnt mind a 1080p ips one

>>57188079
desu senpai i wouldnt bother with the t400 these days unless youre on a budget, the t410 is a lot better for not a lot of money

>>57188139
I already have the T400 in pic. I bought it when they were a lot cheaper than the T410.

My only real fault with it is the screen quality. It's 1440x900 but the colours are shocking.

>>57188194
iktf, i had one for ages, only got rid of it when it died on me

>>57188008
please respond

>>57188265
>>57188020
for real, just boot a linux drive and see if shit werks, then you know if its a software problem or not

>>57188294
Ok will do. Didn't know if you were joking.

>>57180736
wow, just wow

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>>57180284
are new P50s good quality? Is sinking 1800$ in one too overkill for a mechanical engineering laptop? Are thinkpads still fuck-massive and clunky?

>>57189577
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqtJxBJ8hK0

Not the p50s but should be relevant

>>57189577
>that AC adapter
that wattage means you cant ever cheap out on a replacement PSU for it, but otherwise it seems decent to me

>>57189652
>p50s
My bad the s was just meant to make it plural, i guess i just made it confusing instead
I'll have a look at the video, thanks.

>>57189683
do thinkpads' PSUs go out often? I'm hoping my next laptop will last me at least 4 years

>>57183342
hello i3 friendo :D

>>57189700
no, but when my 210 elitebook one died i wound up selling the laptop and buying another, because it was more cost effective than replacing the charger

>>57189741
*210w

>>57189577
Don't forget the discount code in the OP

>>57189764
the USA&Canada-only one? Not for me then i'm afraid

>>57189741
>210w
dayum

>>57189793
yup, thing was a beast for its age

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Just bought a refurb x220 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/371768509871
Figure I should be able to fix the led indicator issue easy enough. Planning on getting a new battery as well. How'd I do?

>>57188112
Panel swap is piss easy, but all 1080 panels are edp. T420 only supports lvds panels. Look on the forums and reddit. This subject has been sufficiently discussed before

>>57189813
acceptable

>>57189839
i read theres a bit of kit you need from those guys in china who make thinkpad mods and shit, howd you score yours?

>>57189852
Didn't say i have one. You can get it supposedly from taobao, but you'll need a chinese agent to ship it to the west. Sometime ago rmsmajestic sold some on the forum. But those have been discontinued. Nitrocaster is trying to do the same thing but has been stumped by cable supplier. He's the closest chance you'll have in the near term. Look it up yourself.

>>57189901
you didnt mod it yourself? im just looking for as much advice as i can get on it, my last attempts at panel swaps didnt go so well

>>57184367
so did I - arriving this afternoon. I'll let you know

what specs on yours?

>>57189923
I did swap my t420 panel with the m14x r2 panel. But this one is 900p aswell.

Want to get a W520, is there much difference between the Quadro 1000M and 2000M? Is it worth to pay more for the latter? Or should I just get a T520 with the NVS?

>>57189946
if im gonna panel swap it needs to be for a better res
shame you cant get any 1440p ones, though i imagine they would be stupid pricey

>>57189995
2000m is supposedly much better, but I'm pretty pleased with my 1000m. Handles Dark Souls 1 and 2 quite decently.

>>57189813
Any resources on fixing the led indicators? My wireless / charge / adapter / hdd indicators don't function anymore on my t420s. Tested the leds separately and they seem fine, cleaned the connector. Anything else that can be checked? The weird thing is, the bluetooth led lights up on boot but then never comes back on again, the rest are just permanently off.

>>57181054
Why not just use an external keyboard when typing for hours? Dock the Pas as desktop and only use mobility for the road. Pad bases are wonderful and it's sad more anons don't use them.

>>57187550

Elitebooks trackpoint is as good as thinkpad?

>>57190371
theyre pretty good, nowhere near as bad as the dell trackpoints, but not quite as good as the thinkpad ones

>>57180284
What happened to the survey about a new Thinkpad? They showed a colorful logo.

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Seen at an event. The keyboard had a really good feel.

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WHAT THE FUCK SENPAITACHI!?!?!

>run tpfc
>everything nice
>suddenly fan goes literally maximum speed
>check tpfc
>some new line "12xc3: 124°C"

what the fuck is this?
it has to be a bug, i dont think anything in my thinkpad reaches those levels. wtf is this shit? help me

>>57190674
Jesus.
Looks like one of the Elder God laptops.

t530 and t430 owners: at full load, how hot do your processors get? I'm wondering if I need to repaste my cpu.

>>57191256
PLEASE HELP ME

>>57191370
chill out fag

124c isn't possible since around 98c a modern cpu starts to throttle and if it can't the laptop turns off to prevent damage.

Verify temps with something like hwmonitor.

>>57187204
Debian testing is the only right answer.

How retarded would it be to buy a X230 even though i already have a T430?

i saw one today and they look so nice and small

>>57191605
The t430 will probably be more powerful than the x230 you are considering (check CPU benchmarks and whether your t430 has a discrete GPU). The x230 feels nicer to carry, but for me it's actually uncomfortable physically to use it on my lap (I'm a big guy and have to bring my legs closer together than what is natural to keep my x220 from falling down). Beyond that, it's more of a qeustion on whether you are okay spending money you don't really need to spend in order to get a little more comfort in your life.

>>57191731
ill keep my T430, i have a trolley anyways i have to take to school so meh.

>>57191817
Probably the better choice. Honestly, the t430 is only two inches bigger than the x230 (if I remember correctly). Wouldn't be worth the money for me, unless you are loaded and are fine spending money. By the way, what do you use your thinkpad for?

>>57191838
learning, watching streams and shitposting.

>>57190457

Which one has usually the better screen? Thinkpad, latitude/press or elite/zbook?

>>57192150
Dells usually have the best screens.

Any news on the Retro? I'm really looking forward

>>57192992
I heard from someone else here that it isn't happening.

Anyone had experience with Elitebook 2760p convertible?

>>57193044
Someone else here sure is credible.

>>57192992
there was a Youtube video where someone asked about the Retro. Lenovo has only X amount of dollars devoted to developing & launching products yearly and apparently it's on the map for 2017.

I guess this means I'll be holding onto my x200 for a while longer maybe I'll even purchase a t420 for editing media. I hear the keyboard on the BlazeIt is responsive and has great feedback. Now if only there was a manufacturer refurb with a 1600x900 screen, I'd be all on it like white on rice.

>>57193795
why dont you just get the T430?

chiclet is amating, its all a fucking meme, dude.

>>57193795
>Now if only there was a manufacturer refurb with a 1600x900 screen, I'd be all on it like white on rice.
I bought a cheap 1366x768 T420 and did the replacement by myself.

The 900p screen with the hd+ cable are cheap enough and by selling the 1366x768 screen on craigslist you can get some shekels back.

>>57193044
lmao that was me. I posted in /tpg/ yesterday or the day before that the retro wasn't happening. I don't have any source for it, but I'm like 99% sure that it will not happen. It cannot possibly be profitable for lenovo to make one for such a niche market. screenshot this and if it does ever happen I'll make a video of me smashing my t420 with a hammer.

>>57180284
Hey guys, would this work on a T420?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-AUO-B140HAN01-3-14-1920x1080-IPS-30Pin-LCD-LED-Screen-Displayer-H2526-YD-/171943879486?hash=item2808a7633e:g:NIAAAOSw9r1WASNF

>>57193959
Not without a adapter board

>>57194125
are those still being made?

is this good? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-23532MU-2-60GHz-CORE-i5-3320M-4GB-500GB-W7PRO-Webcam-/252585575820?hash=item3acf46058c:g:t38AAOSwLF1YAQG6

>>57180284
Just copped an X220 tablet with 4GB Ram and 160 GB SSD for $175.

>>57195478
Not bad, but I'd take my 220 over the 220t any day

>>57192150
elitebook screens piss all over pre t440 thinkpad ones

Has anyone tried gaming with an egpu? I have a t420 and a w520, and I would like to know your experiences, how much performance do you loose?

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>>57195478
>tfw no tablet in good condition in the city
>tfw getting one from ebay means no buyers protection because third world shithole
I guess I should just buy an Elitebook or Lifebook then, but as far as I understand from this thread, Lifebook build quality is crap

Is the T420s a good option? with an i7 and a 4200m?

>>57180955
>anything with an i3 (CPU) is going to have enough computing power
i3wm can run on way less than that. My N270 single core atom runs i3wm flawlessly.

>>57195548
Why is that?

From what I read, it seems that the battery options are better for the 220. Other than that, I couldn't find much else different.

>>57195838
Thst had been discussed in detail plenty of times, look at the archive.

tl;dr you only notice the difference in benchmarks

>>57180284
My girlfriend's job gives her a pretty massive discount on Lenovo products.

Are any of the new (post T420) Thinkpads any good? Are they as durable?

>>57195965
extreme housefires and zero battery life, but otherwise fine

>>57196137
Are you using the tablet function at all? Idk, it just feels clumsy to me, the 220 is tiny in comparison

post eGPU setups

Can you install a palmrest with FP reader on an x220 that did not initially have it?

Aliexpress has replacement palmrests with an FP sensor. Are those usable?

>>57196365
If massive really means massive

Get you a P50

>>57197608
Looks pretty good but 15.7 inches is pretty massive. Is there anything good that's smaller?

Also, I forgot to mention I was thinking of trying an eGPU setup with it.

>>57197559
Yes, they even come with the cable and all.

I also thought about doing that on my T420 without FP reader but then i realized i'd rather have a strong password to decrypt my drives.

>>57197637
T420 or T430, pick your poison.

>>57197637
Sounds like you want shit tons of power in a small footprint. I just ordered a T460p. Got mine fully loaded with the discount in this thread. 14" 2560x1440 IPS display, 2GB Nvidia 940MX discrete graphics, i7 6820HQ all in a 14" machine was the sweet spot for me. You'll see it's one of the best bang for the buck machines in their lineup.....not much more expensive than a specced out regular T460 and actually cheaper than a specced out X260 lol. Also reviews have been good

>>57197649
Awesome! Will order one pretty soon. My x220 is still pretty barebones, with the shitty TN panel and a crappy old HDD. Can't wait to turn it into a portable powerhouse

>>57197745
While i don't understand the fascination with a FP reader, if you get one et a KingDian mSATA ssd from there as well so you can have 2 drives on your x220.

Anybody have experience with an x220t for reading manga? I sort of just bought an i5 model on impulse for this and am starting to wonder if I made a mistake. I mean, I can still use it as a regular computer, but I already have an i7 T420 for that.

Someone convince me I didn't just make a $135 mistake.

>>57197729
That actually looks like my ideal. The only thing I gotta figure out if it has whatever port eGPUs work with. Still trying to figure all this stuff out; I wasn't expecting to be buying a new machine any time soon.

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I somehow ended up with a Dell Latitude C510/C610 for free but I honestly can't find a single thing about this. What can I do with it? This thing must be almost 20 years old. If it was a D series I could make do but there's nothing on these old things.

>>57197808
>whatever port eGPUs work with.
Thunderbolt, ngff, msata and expresscard.

The last two are the cheapest ones.

Reposting from last thread

First time posting here in a while, but just a question about my X220.
Atm I have a clean Windows 7 install, but I decided I wanted to dual boot with Manjaro. I can clear up room for a partition just fine, but when I try to actually create it and install Manjaro I get an error.

Anyone got any ideas as to what the deal may be? For what it's worth, I'm using an SSD.

>>57197776
It's pure convenience, of course. The x220 is mainly an after-work couch-programming device for me. I'll bring it to meetings and conferences occasionally, but it will rarely leave my home in general. There's just no reason to type so many passwords, but on the other hand, I don't want to run as a too priviliged user either, in case I catch something.

Is the speed difference between the SATA3 & SATA2 ports noticeable in daily use? I thought about getting a beefy 2,5" SSD and filling the mSATA slot with a 3g modem (which would be a solution waiting for a problem, though)

If there's no real difference, though, a storage HDD + a good primary SSD would be more reasonable

>>57197827
Hmmm. Maybe install a really lightweight Linux distro on it for fun? I can't really think of anything else but it's a start

>>57197879
>Is the speed difference between the SATA3 & SATA2 ports noticeable in daily use?
Not at all unless you transfer or write big files on a regular basis.

>3g modem
This seems redundant imo when you can just do tethering from your smartphone.

>>57197965
>This seems redundant imo when you can just do tethering from your smartphone.
Yes, good point

I was just getting carried away by the fact that I am *sure* that I'll be perfectly fine with <500gb of storage on this machine. It will never hold movies, games or even more than a couple of photo albums. I only need OpenMW and my dev stuff on it. So I thought one of both slots is basically free.

Too bad there's nothing really interesting you can to with an mSATA slot

>>57198015
Eh i'd still go with an mSATA 128 or 256gb SSD, leaves the option for another drive if you need it in the future.

>>57197827
Funny enough I used a C610 in high school. It's not quite 20 years old but I think my dad bought it in 2001 and then gave it to me in late 2005. It was a great computer at the time... 1400x1050 display, ATI mobility radeon, 512 megs of RAM. The thing actually ran Rome: Total War and Sim City 4 decently well.

In some ways, the T400 I bought for University was a bit of a downgrade since I lost 150 piexels of precious vertical screen real estate. And I actually didn't like the keyboard as much as the C610's- those keys have a FUCKLOAD of travel.

>>57198040
You're probably right. There's just no real reason not to, if only due to a lack of alternatives

>>57181054
>[t530] keyboard too big
all **30 series keyboards are exactly the same size, and the **40, the **50 series too.

>>57183856
that's too much temperature variation, try applying less paste.
My t430 ranges from 38C to 75C. 83C if i'm using the GPU and the CPU.

Can my Thinkpad T420s run Civilization VI even in Strategic View?

>>57190251
Any ideas on this?

Also where do people get x220 batteries from? Do you buy used or generic? Has anyone tried rebuilding an x220 battery? Also what's the most preferable type/most form fighting vs time?

>>57182200
Please.... Tell me what part that is? I would live to have a seamless USB pcmcia card.

>>57182189
Underwood No.5's Are fucking GOAT.

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Thinking of getting pic related to carry my T430, thoughts?

Found it for $11 locally.

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buying an X131e as my main computer away from my desktop for $130. It's the model with the i3-3227U.

Can't fucking wait. Love the 11.6in form factor

>thoughts?

>pic not related, still want an x220 tho

>>57197793
It's good for manga you fag. Nowhere else would you get page sizes actually similar to the magazines.

quins GET

Is the T430 a good buy still?

I'm mostly using it for work and don't have a huge budget right now.

>>57200479
even a t400 is still a good buy

>>57198871
maybe at like 5-10 fps.
On hd 4000 I get 20-30 fps in strategic view

will a x220 run crusader kings 2?

>>57200696
>>>/v/

What do you think about HP elitebooks?
I found offer for Elitebook 2570p, i7 3520m, 12,5" 1366x768, 8gb, 256gb ssd for 400 dollars, comes with 12 month warranty.
I could find thinkpad x230 for around the same price, but with i5 3210m and only 128gb SSD.

Is the thinkpad meme worth the worse cpu and ssd?

>>57201662
elitebooks are great, except they have 0 water tolerance, ive had one die from a little splash on the keyboard before now, but ive never had any issues with my trusty thinkpad

elitebooks generally have better hardware tho, especially when it comes to displays

I'd like to buy an X220 but import taxes are going to fuck me up if I order from ebay. What's the usual price of used X220s with 4gigs of ram, an HDD and a battery?

>>57198994
Now I'm thinking it might be a fuse on the power board (there are none on the led board itself). Mine went out when the cheap chinese charger decided to blow itself up, so maybe it also took out the fuse.

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Yay or nay?

Seems like a good deal to me. Can go even cheaper with HDD or 4GB RAM.

The only seller I've seen that knocks off the price and gives an option without OS.

>>57202458
you can get far better deals than that my man

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>>57202496
This is the price with 4GB and 320GB HDD.

Where do I find better deals in the UK?

>>57202646
get it at that price, swap out the HDD with a micron SSD on the cheap, and add in a cheap 4GB stick from ebay, youll get much better bang for buck

i just got one with a 900p panel and those specs for £130

>>57202699
Thanks for the tips.

Sadly it's:
>14.0-inch HD (1366 x 768) LED backlight Anti-Glare Display

Where did you manage to get that? In general, I prefer buy from some 'seller' than random auction kiddy, so I don't mind paying extra £10 for at least a month warranty.

>>57202762
find an ebay auction for the spec you want, from a reasonably trustworthy seller, patiently wait til its almost over, then snipe it.

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Looking for a stylus tablet laptop. Was looking into the X201t series for price, but the guide mentions Low Voltage CPUs.

I'm assuming I want to aim for a Full Voltage one? Going on http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X201_Tablet. I should be going for the i5-560M one and not the ultra-low to low voltage ones?

I don't have a thinkpad, but I do have an Acer aspire v3 570g. I got it in 2012 on the cheap and it's served me well ever since. Opinions?

>>57204016
suicide

Wanting a thinkpad is actually ruining my life.

I just bought a X220. The USB ports work but only with certain cables. What is up with that?

>>57199507
Autism

>>57199507
Sure, why not?

>>57202458

I actually bought that one with a 240gb ssd and 8gb ram, waiting for it to be delivered now.

>>57204231
Why would you say that?

>>57204789
>Why would you say that?
>acer meme

>>57204524
Doesn't make sense, user error.

>>57204539
why is that

>>57184809
di.fm is the shit

>>57205094
I just got it because it was cheap and decent for what it is. Are you trying to meme me?

Refurbished T430 for sale at $200 on Newegg

I'm new to the thinkpad meme, do I get it?

So, I'm getting my first laptop, already have a decent PC so I guess I'm going for a 12.5-13.3" model.
I have a few models in mind, which one is the best? They're all around the same price.
A Wacom layer is a huge plus.

Thinkpad X220 Tablet (12.5" 1366x768, i7-2640M, 4GB DDR3, 320GB HDD)
HP EliteBook 2760p Tablet (12.5" 1280x800, i5-2520M, 4GB DDR3, 320GB HDD)
Dell Latitude E6320 (13.3" 1366x768, i7-2620M, 4GB DDR3, 320GB HDD)
Dell Latitude E6220 (12.5" 1366x768, i5-2520M, 3GB DDR3, 128GB SSD)

I'd upgrade the RAM to 8GB and install an SSD on any of them, and replace the battery if needed.

>>57199507
For the price....why not? But yeah I'll admit you should take the autism factor into account if it bothers you. This is the same reason I don't bring my /k/ommando backpack to school and use another one instead.

>Tl:dr I think it's a good looking non autistic backpack and I would totally use it regardless of what the normies think

Holy shit I got dilemma.
Should I buy my thinkpad from trusted reseller of business laptops, or get them from random ebay seller for 100 dollars cheaper...

>>57205375
>I'll admit you should take the autism factor into account if it bothers you.
What do you mean by "autism factor"? is it the thinkpad logo?

>>57199956
Thanks

>>57198994
Definitely get new from lenovo. I got the 9-cell off amazon and it gets me like 7-9 hours

>>57205253
get memed kid

>>57198994
>>57202073
Okay, so I just looked at the power board: no fuses, though there are several 0 ohm resistors which they might use as fuses. All were fine. Rechecked the cable connecting the led board to the power board and cleaned the connector of the power board to the motherboard. Still nothing. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone know where to find the schematics for thinkpads?

>>57204743
I wanted to, but the difference was £80.

I think it should be enough to buy the extra 4GB and wait for a good Black Friday deal for the SSD.

If it ships with 2 * 2GB, I'll send it back, not even kidding.

>>57184823
T61 masterrace

>>57187520
M6400 is the most GPU upgradable, it has a discrete HSF too, 8730w has one big one on the left
Also the M6400 supports two HDDs, 8740w doesn't, W700 has two.

I used to play LoL on highest on my W700ds, youtube vids on the second screen, the FX3700m didn't like video rendering, or it was the Core 2 Quad's problem.

The 8740w I have right now has a sort of keyboard feedback I'm not used to, feels bouncy. I don't mind the M6400's keyboard.

Out of all of them...
I think the 8740w has the best screen, even moreso if you can find a DreamColor unit.

>>57205363
skip low resolutions, especially fucking 1366*768, theyre just fucking terrible for almost everything

>>57205413
depends, whats the laptop like, and whats the seller rating like?

>>57205579
can confirm, i loved the 1200p screen on my old 8740w, shame the adapter died

>>57193946
I'm 99% sure they will make something.

>>57195885
What tablet do you want?
You should be fine if buying from a credible seller. As long as they pack it nicely.
I just sent a T430 to russia.
I might get fucked tho.

>>57199837
I have one that I'm just waiting to find a screen for.
I thought the 1.6GHz AMD processor is decent on them
The i3 should be plenty of power for what you need to do. Supposedly there's an i5 version of the machine, I think I saw it on the PSREF to confirm it.

It had good battery life.
Other than the display and thicker case (I like how robust it is for the loss of portability), the main thing is typing on it when its on your lap is not fun.
After long use, my wrists hurt because you don't have that much palmrest space due to the keyboard being pushed a bit forward to fit the battery.

>>57201662
I just bought an OCZ 480GB SSD for like $125 via best buy.
The elitebook's drawback is that it doesn't have a 3 button trackpoint.
Also you can upgrade the processor on the Elitebook, X230 needs a mobo swap. The 2570p is the only /biz/ 12" ivy bridge laptop that'll let you do that.

>>57205709
1366*768 is fine you moron, unless you do image work or photography you don't really need a monitor with any higher of a resolution

>>57205253
Please no shitbooks on here. take it to /csg/

>>57205784
>web pages bunched together
900p or better please.

For an X220T, will a USB 3.0 express card make a difference?
Also, what number on the battery should I be looking at? 52+ or 63+?

>>57205828
I've never experienced this webpage bunching, what are you talking about

>>57205845
>make a difference?
For copying things, yes. Especially if the internal and external are SSDs.
That's about it though.

torn over an x220 or t420. main thing is the screen size. I'll be using it for uni, so mainly coding, web browsing and ocassional movie. is 12.5" enough for that?

Why does the Centrino advanced 2605 n act so slow in Ubuntu and most other distros

>>57205784
well technically i could do everything i need to do on a fucking CGA display, but i dont, because i live in the 21st fucking century, and i want sufficient screen real-estate to render more than 20 lines of fucking text at a time.

>>57206113
x201 user here, in my experience its a tad cramped, get a nice 900p t420 if you can, or better yet, mod it with the t440 1080p panel

>>57206227
there's a guy selling both an x220 and t420. x220 is 220€ with 8gb, 128gb ssd and new battery, the t420 is 300€ with i7, 16gb, 128gb ssd and 900p (no new battery sadly).

>>57206227
>mod it with the t440 1080p panel
Don't you need an adapter for that?

Is the X1 carbon considered a Thinkpad ?
Should I get it despite people say that it has a shitty finishing. I know XPS 15 is good but X1 is only 1,1kg, I can't resist. Tell me I will do good by bying it.
Inb4 x220 and x60.

>>57206576
t460s

Is there any way to produce videos and render them on an x220 or would that lead to broken city?

Debian question on x220 and x440: do you keep the opensources drivers or do you need the nonfree ones

>>57206296
shit senpai, get the t420

>>57206400
yup

>>57196994
seconded. i've got a pe4c 3.0 coming in the mail that i'll be throwing an old 750ti on. would like to see how you guys arrange it all on the desk and hear some anecdotes regarding performance

What dell latitude is recomended? OP is quite vague about this

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>>57196994
>>57207064
I'm running pic related. Adapter, gpu and psu in a small DIY case.

Why do X220 betas act like they're not getting totally cucked by it's faggot-nigger resolution?

>inb4 b-b-b-but its shitty resolution is b-based for its screen size

Kill yourself, you probably jerk off to cuck porn

>>57207207
>>>/pol/

>>57207207
fuck of you know nothing...

>>57207222
checked

>>57207254
I know nothing about being cucked? That's a good thing because I don't own a Lenovo Cuckpad cuX220

>>57206849
won't battery life be shit? I really don't need the i7 to write shit in C and java and watch muh shows

>>57207279
eh, whats the difference going to be really? if you want good battery life id wager the drive choice and screen settings matter far more than the CPU power draw.

>>57207272
who are you trying to impress? No one gives a shit about being a cuck or not on /g/, fuck off to pol where people actually care about your faggot business

>>57207279
both are 35w processors so same shit

>>57207222
>>57207254
>>57207341

t. numales that are voting for Hillary and are okay with a combo of Jamal NigNog-dick and Mohammed "The Refugee" Ackbar raping your wife while you sit in the corner squinting at your low resolution panels not intervening because they Dindu nuffin.

>>57180284
Using esxi would I be able to pass through my w520's dgpu to a VM?

>>57207381
Please go shit up the rest of /g/ and stay out of the dailies. They are the last good thing around here.

>>57207618
>an 1366 x 768 cuck is confronted with his poor taste in laptops and recoils violently
>attempting to form a retort, he makes himself look like an insecure beta.

>>57207381
i'm voting for Trump, seriously just fuck off you utter cunt...you're so annoying

>>57205776
damn, can't find any with the i5 on ebay. it's nearly identical in power to my current laptop, which has an i5-3210m

>>57207656
Well funnily enough none of us care that we are using 1366x768 and quite frankly, none of us need a bigger resolution. It would make pretty much no difference to me.

Why can't you just leave us alone when we are clearly happy with what we have. Stop projecting your insecurities about having 'the best' hardware and go somewhere else. Clearly you have some self image issues if you're going into daily's calling people cucks.

>>57207740
>none of us need a bigger resolution
see >>57206205
that guy might be retarded, but that doesnt make your argument any less shit

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>>57207767
well you tell me why do i need a higher resolution here? I can display more lines than I could ever read at once, it's still really clear, too

Any more and i'm just displaying things i cant even look at

I want to get the T460. Will it last me the next 3-4 years?

>>57207890
bro fix your color calibration

>>57207956
Probably because I have f.lux running if it looks weird on the screenshot

>>57207890
>emoji extension

Speaks volumes about the type of cucks that use X220's

>>57205776
>What tablet do you want?
I was thinking X220T but leaning towards 2760p due to much higher availability

>I just sent a T430 to russia
Which method did you use?

GSP is expensive as fuck, takes forever and uses Russian post which is known for constantly losing/damaging packages, although it got better in past few years, it's still kind of gamble

Some people suggest using mail forwarders because it's cheaper, safer and faster but using a mail forwarder means there's no responsible party at all

>>57207890
you could be doing actual work on your machine, and need to display more than 25 LoC at a time

also
>memes thread
>actually enabling that kind of fucking cancer
you are why /g/ is shit.

Human eyes can't see past 1366x768 anyway. Stop the useless bickering.

>>57183062
>>57183321
>>57183342
Are they IPS-Panel?

>>57208075
>muh /g/

>>57208160
/g/ isnt what it used to be, 5 years ago this place was actually somewhat passable, now if i want actual discussion about tech i have to go elsewhere

>>57208223
>muh /g/ was never good

>>57208230
4chan was never good, its always been just ok, problem is theres nowhere else quite like it, save for spinoff sites that pop up whenever a significant enough portion of the userbase gets sufficiently pissed off with the administration

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>>57208270
>muh

>>57208223
These daily threads aren't too bad. But most threads are "mfw too smart to use" garbage.

>>57208384
true, /tpg/ and /dpt/ are the only things i ever bother with on here

>>57200696
Might b laggy

>>57205828
Don't even talk to me, tripfag

>>57205442
What do you mean by "autism factor"? is it the thinkpad logo?

Yeah some people might think of the Thinkpad logo as being like someone wearing a bunch of stuff with the Razer gaming logo on it or an Alienware gaming backpack or something to that effect. At first I thought you were only asking about the way it looked. But anyway I think it looks great but if I were you I would look up reviews and see if it's built properly and has protection for your Thinkpad and lots of pockets etc.

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>>57208057
>uses Russian post
Oh, wait, I double-checked it, they actually use SPSR, not Russian Post, it might be an option after all

>>57209231
Oh I'm not him, just got curious on the "autism factor" thing because i found the backpack to look very ordinary.

According to google it's called BP100 and even has a FRU number lel.

>>57204232
They're like $150 stop being such a poorfag

>>57207134

Typing this on a E6430 that I picked up sometime in June. It's plugged into a dock, currently driving 3 monitors.

I highly recommend it. I picked this thing up for $130 on eBay. Included a charger and a 9 cell battery.

My i5-3340M is very capable-- runs VMs like a dream with KVM. The CPU is socketed, though. Maybe someday I'll throw an i7 quad in here.

It came with like 4G ram or something. I put 16GB in for ~$50.

Took out the HDD drive, replaced it with another HDD bay, put 2 SSD's in here in a RAID-1.

All-in-all I'm less than $300 in the hole for this setup, including the dock and charger and battery and ssd and ram and so on.

It plays CS:GO, the only game I ever play, at 100FPS at 1024x768. Good enough for me! People on techinferno have purchased $60 expresscard devices and have had success at getting this thing to do an eGPU at 2.2x. So if games are your thing, for $60 + $150 for a 1050TI, you can probably play games on this thing at a reasonable framerate. Coupled with vPro and VT-d, it's probably possible to do this without even rebooting (not sure.)

Highly recommended.

Only regret I have is that this thing has a 1366x768 screen. I've seen displays on eBay for $40, and I'll probably pick one up soon.

>>57209787

took out the DVD drive***

>>57180910
How does your eGPU setup run? Is it good? Is there performance loss? How bad is it?

>>57209648
Sorry people won't pay a lot for my ass.

>>57210416
male ass, nah, female, you can earn my old t400 or 420, depending

>>57209787
Where did you get 16gb of ram for $50? Ebay?

How noticeable is the difference in performance between the x220 and the x230?

>>57210851
minimal

>>57209910
See >>57207179
Uh nice i guess, no issues at all.
Yes, serves me well for my purposes
See >>57196159

>>57180736
If you can only choose one of those four:
Get the p50, NOT FROM THEM, but with the corporate discount we have in the pastebin.

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>>57210622
I have the heart of a girl

Getting really irritating drift on my trackpoint, any suggestions? Or do I have to change out the whole board

http://www.ebay.com/itm/152283562090
Is this worth the casah? NEw to dankpads and wanting to pickup a t420 +10

>>57212543
From what I've seen of the T430 it's a pretty pricey (comparitively) laptop.
T420 is cheaper normally but at $110 that's great.
If you win the bid war.

>>57212707
Fucking shit got sniped.

>>57212791
I fucking hate ebay bidding desu, T420's are good though, it depends what you're using it for, more than anything.
Just keep an eye on newly listed ebay for buy now stuff, it's what I do.

>>57212707
I've found that t430's usually go for $20-$50 more than t420s
So instead of getting a perfect condition t420 you could get a slightly dinged up t430 for the same price.
Plus the gpu upgrade is huge, so going from a t420 with nvs 4200m to just hd 4000 would be a nice improvement.

>>57212891
T420's have 2 motherboards, one does have a Nvidia NVS 4200M
They have something like 1gb GDDR but they're not that good from what I hear, the models are also a pain in the ass to find.
If the T430 is anything like that there will be 2 motherboards, one with intel graphics and one with the nvidia graphics.

>>57212912
yeah it is
hd 4000 alone is slightly faster than my friends nvs 4200m, and the nvs 5400m is light years better than the 4200m.
The only downside is that mine throttles like a bitch under full load (or just playing some intensive games)
It makes my macbook pro look like it's running cool.

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I want something that has a 13" screen and is new. Should I get a Thinkpad 13? Or is it not a real Thinkpad?

>>57212934
Yeah intel HD graphics are pretty garbo for that kind of stuff but I don't think you should be expecting much from the T430 either, what kind of games are you expecting to play?

I really want to get my x220 already. Iv'e been waiting so long for it, I'm hyped af.
I hope nothing goes wrong.

>>57212947
None of the think pads are real think pads. Real ThinkPads died in 2007 when IBM stopped overseeing Lenovo's production of the thinkpad line.

>>57212959
Well I've tried civ 6 on hd 4000, and I get 30-20 fps depending on the zoom in strategic view, and 10-25 in normal view.
The bottleneck seems to mostly be on the cpu, so I haven't bothered turning on the dgpu since it will just make the cpu throttle down.
GTA 5 runs at 40-60 fps with shadows off and all low 1600x900 before it throttles.
Haven't really messed with any other intensive games because of the throttling, plus I have my macbook or my desktop for gaming

>>57213031
Gave CIV 5 a quick go on the t420 just now, it feels like 15-20 fps, it's not great but intel HD.
Speaking of CPU's what's the best CPU is for the 420 before thermal throttling cripples it?

>>57213264
>Speaking of CPU's what's the best CPU is for the 420 before thermal throttling cripples it?
Dual core? The best cpu it was shipped with was the i7-2640M.
Quad core? I'd say 2670qm or 2720qm but nothing further.

Source? There's a video on youtube of a dude installing a 2670qm on a t420 with acceptable temps and there's an anon that always posts his t420 with a 2720qm and looks fine so i guess that's the highest cpu you could use on it without exploding.

How are the newer thinkpads compared to other consumerist garbage in the market?

I basically need a new laptop but can't get a refurbished one cuz India, I only need it for programming and running android studio, but since everything in $300-$400 is consumerist garbage I thought I'll just spend some extra and get a durable machine. Max budget is $500, any recommendations?

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>>57180284
Does anyone remember about a year ago there was rumor of some hardware developer talking about selling newer designed motherboard for like an i7 in the t40/ t60 series chassis? I tried scraping up that old thread but haven't had luck. Just wondering if anything became of it. Rocking my t60p without issues on Windows 10/ Ubuntu but I can't help but imagine how nice a newer platform would be with this godlike keyboard and general design.

Every time I pick up my T420 i accidentally press the open button on the optical drive. Is there anything worthwhile I can replace the drive with? I already have enough HDD space and an SSD.

>>57214949
A third HDD or an empty HDD caddy for an improvised weed container.

>>57208084
pls respond
because I want to buy x220, but I don't know if TFT-Panel is good?

>>57210851
There's a huge GPU difference but the CPU is not that different

x220 here, anyone else think the track pad is fucking garbage?

>>57216351
No? Prefer it to my other plinkpads, W541 does weird shit where it randomly jumps while typing which is a bit shit when I basically type out large segments of code without looking at the IDE.
T540p is better but still fucking annoying with clicking.

x220t is pretty good in comparison also I like the texture.

>>57215580
Damn, too bad I'm getting x220 and not x230. :(

I am looking for a Korean keyboard replacement for my w541 which should be the same as in the t540/w540 etc. So far I only found one listing on ebay which expired and some old page on IBM which may offer it, but the page looks shady and straight out of 2003.

Checked various Chinese and Korean auction sites but all of them seem to offer the Us kind only.

Buying replacement parts shouldn't be this hard right?

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Just bought this, I can't figure out if the transfer speeds are USB 3.0 because of how cramped they are together, I'm shitting a brick though because now it's stuck in there and wont eject.
Can I pry it out without completely tearing the laptop apart?

>>57212947
If you want a new Thinkpad that small, then get either a 12" X260 X1 Carbon or one of the 14" T series. Honestly I wouldn't trust anything other than T X or P series Thinkpads. All the other versions are either built to meet a much lower price or its a sort of "experimental" machine with more mainstream construction and features for normies

>>57214751
They are much better than consumer junk.
They still offer good repair ability and hot swappable batteries. Just be sure to stick with T X or P series to get the best and most traditional Thinkpad features

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I own a Thinkpad T520 laptop running windows 7.

There is some setting which keeps auto-adjusting my brightness levels to the colors on the screen. I thought this was a problem with Intel Control Center so I checked it, but strangely enough auto brightness wasnt an option in the program. So I uninstalled Intel Control Center, but the brightness keeps changing.

Does anyone have any idea why this keeps happening? I imagine that it is probably the result of some bloatware program on this PC.

In case it matters, here is a speccy.

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All me btw :^)

New thread: >>57218165

>>57217798
Lel happened the same to me the first couple of times, just push it harder until it makes the "click" then use your fingernails or something to extract it.

It gets looser the more you use it.

>>57216351
Absolutely. I did get used to it though.

>>57217956
Check power options