/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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First for Solus

>>57013288
nice vapor vibe pape

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>>57013333
also for quads apparently

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>>57013333
Very nice.

Is there a command to change the input of a monitor?

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is there a way to make the optical sensor of my mouse stop glowing on sleep?

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What's a good 'esoteric' district to use on a laptop that I'm using as something I can use for programming on the go?

I know distro questions are lame, but is there any well known distros that do things differently while keeping the Linux kernel that anyone could recommend?

>>57013417
nixos

>>57013417

And how would those "esoteric" distributions positively affect you compared to the "normal" distributions?
You idiots spend more time switching between distributions for unwarranted reasons than you spend using your operating system. Then you post idiotic things like "I am bored with [insert OS here], recommend me something else".

>>57013417
Try https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/

>>57013473
Some people just want to expand their knowlege and skill. Hopping through common distros isn't useful but things like gentoo, void, guix, etc can actually teach you something.

>>57013288
>free as in freedom
don't want to be nitpicking, but vanilla linux sadly has a bunch of binary blobs which make linux basically nonfree software

>>57013569
Not if you deblob the kernel like Debian does or when you use GNU Linux-libre. At the end it's just configuration.

>>57013519

The only thing they can teach you is using the distribution's package manager. A useless skill if you're not using said distribution.

>>57013598
the point is the default state of it, ofc you can turn anything into free software, but at the moment you change it, it's a fork/a different program, not the original anymore

>>57013686
install gentoo

Hello. How do I open up the CLI on Fedora 22(VM)? I tried ctrl-alt-f2. I may have other stupid questions to if someone wants to help.

>>57013473
Because I like seeing interesting ideas implemented. Once an operating system is on a computer, there's no reason to mess with it. But if you need to install something on a laptop that is extra computing fluff, why not have fun with it?

Personally, on my main machine, I have a minimal install of OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Set it up in 2 hours, and then no more fuss for the foreseeable future.

What I mean to say is, you can be pragmatic while having fun.

>>57013479
I've heard so many nice things about this, I probably will end up using this.

>>57013717
Either use whatever your DE ships to launch programs and search for "terminal" or use a TTY (CTRL+ALT+F1,2,3,4,5,6 which works always-

>>57013717
Nevermind. I got alt-f2 to work. The only CLI working although alt-f2-alt-f6 should be working apparently... Alt-f2 should do the trick for now. I was curious about seeing the other interfaces though.

Hello i am trying to install i3-gaps on debian i have done every step until the point its say on wiki to compile and install when i am try to use make i get an error

 [libi3] CC libi3/format_placeholders.c
In file included from libi3/format_placeholders.c:12:0:
include/libi3.h:16:21: fatal error: xcb/xcb.h: No such file or directory
 #include <xcb/xcb.h>
                     ^
compilation terminated.
libi3/libi3.mk:12: recipe for target 'libi3/format_placeholders.o' failed
make: *** [libi3/format_placeholders.o] Error 1

can anyone help me

>>57013826
Install libxcb-dev

>>57013826
You're missing dependencies.
https://github.com/Airblader/i3/wiki/Compiling-&-Installing

Hey people

How's btrfs nowadays for an SSD?

I've been thinking of using that instead of ext4 for my new installation

>>57013846
It can locate the package

>>57013899
can't*

>>57013928
try apt-cache search xcb to get the correct package name

Why the hell does opening eclipse soft freeze Elementary .4?

>>57013899
>>57013928
>>57013939
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xcb

xcb-proto

>>57013810
I got ctrl-alt-f3 to work which looks similar to a DOS screen which is sort of what I wanted. My login and password keeps failing at the terminal though even though I know it's correct. Is it normal for when you to answer the password, the blinking cursor doesn't move?

>>57013997
Yes.

I have a kvm guest system which i configured and played alot with since a few months.
I acually like it more than my host system.

Is there any way to just copy this kvm guest on my drive, remove my actual host installation and keep using the guest as my new host system?

>>57013414
Unplug it

How's nouveau on a gtx 1060? How does it compare to an rx 480 with amdgpu?

>>57014395
Terrible since it's not supported.

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Is there anybody with a sandy bridge laptop using the integrated HD3000 having problems with flickering video?

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hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for a human bean?

ubuntu for first time linux user, y/n

>>57014812
y

>>57014771
I have a laptop with a i3M with HD3000 and no problems, Antergos + GNOME + Intel Drivers

>>57014812
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_(Unix)

is one of the -ubuntus or mint better for beginners

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Should I install Linux 16.04?

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So I'm using ubuntu 16.04 here and chromium be fucking with me. Sometimes it shows up like this, sometimes it just shows blank pages. I'm using open source drivers (the only ones available here apparently) with a 280x. Any ideas?

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I have arch
when I want to install LAPP (Linux Apache Postgresql Php)
I get this error

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>>57014966

>>57014944
>linux 16.04

That's like saying should I buy a console 4 Pro

>>57014966
1. open terminal
2. run it from there (PROTIP: enter chrom then press tab for auto complete)
3. post error/warning output

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I want to be able to translate locally, without the need for Internet connection. Is there any good translator for this purpose? Not depending on Google Translate would be good, too.

>>57014982
Just install the apache, php and postgres Arch has in their package management system.

Is linux rawhide stable enough for everyday use?

>>57014855
I might try Antergos out I was having issues with stock Manjaro which I think had xf86-video-intel by default

I also need to do more testing with disabling the discrete nvidia card because optimus might be screwing with it

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>>57014944

>>57015045
see >>57015059

>>57014999
Nah, no errors. It just shows

Created new window in existing browser session.

I'm going to try linux testing.

>>57014075
you can mount virtual machine disk images as loop devices in loonix.

Methods vary for each container type (img, vhd, cow2 etc), google the exact method for your image.

Then you can use e2image to create a file system image of your system inside then write that to a real disk partition.

>>57015087
apparently it was already running, close any open chromiums.

>>57015108
>not using linux unstable
enjoy your acient packages

>>57013778
(CTRL+ALT+F1,2,3,4,5,6 ) is blocked in few distro.

anyone going to answer my question
>>57014941

>>57015162
If I wanted that, I'd use linux.

>>57015169
what distros?

>>57013404
xrandr

>>57015170
both are shit, but ubuntu is the lesser evil, since it isn't broken like mint and offers at least basic security

>>57015198
Explain further

>>57015121
Well shit, now it doesn't want to fuck up. I guess I'll continue checking that terminal.

>>57015209
read the manual

What distros are available for beginners except Ubuntu and Mint?

>>57015237
I thought this was the friendly GNU/Linux thread

>>57015200
ok so what do you recommend for beginners then

>>57015200
This. Mint is just a slightly more broken version of Ubuntu that comes with cinnamon instead. Any other desktop (Xfce, MATE or whatever), just use buntus.

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>>57015162

>>57015243
openSUSE and debian are good if you are good with computers, but have little experience with gahnoo slash loonix.

>>57015246
Doesn't change we're lazy

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so I ran bleachbit and fucked everything up. Pic related.
I've tried following the advice here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=163454
and
and here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170504
and have read Chroot https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_root
but nothing has worked so far. It seems I am getting into my old system and upgrading packages, but each time I restart I'm greeted with the same error message as my pic. Any help would be appreciated.

>>57015243
Like, all of them? None of them requires you to prove having years of experience.

>>57015262
learn with ubuntu, when you feel save enough, switch to a mature distro that isn't a fork of a fork

>>57015243
opensuse
manjaro
deepin
mageia
PCLinuxOS
Zorin

>>57015302
root=UUID booting can only be done with a working initrd

Do you have a working initrd? If no, try passig the exact device to the kernel in grub, like

linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0 root=/dev/sda1 ro

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>>57015319
>PCLinuxOS
this sounds funny, what's the deal?

>>57015290
can you please give the difference between them and ubuntu/mint

>>57015309
ok, should i get ubuntu, xubuntu, or kubuntu

>>57015350
It's just a very average easy to use linux distro

>>57015346
>root=UUID booting
is there a wiki i can read on how to boot using initrd? Arch is my first serious distro and I'm still learning a lot. Anything new to me has to either be meticulously read, or explained as if I'm 5.

>>57015356
can you do simple research

not being unfriendly I'm just wondering

>>57015356
Personally using xubuntu. Ubuntu's desktop looks really horrendous like it's being filtered through Remastered Skyrim pissfilter. Also the usability felt a bit off when I started with linux untill I switched to xubuntu. No idea on kubuntu as I haven't used it.

>>57015209
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr

>>57015399
idk I just like to hear different people's opinions

>>57015356
Basically opensuse and debian installers ask more questions (like how do you want your network, which packages you want, I think suse can set up your printer for you etc.).

Think of the difference between the installer of Windows XP and Windows 7/8/10

>>57015393
arch wiki must have a section to create an initrd that includes your ata/sata/scsi controller drivers and what is needed for UUID, I cannot really help you more.

In debian we have the dank update-initramfs program to create a fully functional and customizable initrd. Maybe arch has one too?

>>57015460
okay. I will use your info to research more. Thanks.

>>57015401
>>57015460
ok thanks

hey /g/, what's the best lightweight, minimal, simple, rolling release, bleeding edge, customizable and user-friendly distro for weekday desktop use?

Any underrated programs? Searching for new stuff.

>>57015505
Arch

>>57015505
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

>>57015508
imagemagick
imagemagick!
learn imagemagick!!

lesser known: gmic, which is basically imagemagick for lazy people with great filters

also lesser known: fzf (comfy fuzzy finder for the shell)

more lesser known: pulsemixer (like alsamixer for pulse)

dank award goes to: vrms, which shows you how many nonfree programs are currently installed

that's all that comes into mind currently

>>57015508
sublime text /s

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>>57015670

>>57013997
>I got ctrl-alt-f3 to work which looks similar to a DOS screen which is sort of what I wanted. My login and password keeps failing at the terminal though even though I know it's correct
Anyone? My username is two words. I don't kow if that would make a difference

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>>57014944
>>57014992

>>57015508
Nano

>>57015691
>My username is two words
You're one of those guys every admin hates.

I'm a really lazy piece of shit.

Is there any decent frontend for dosbox on linux?

I be looking to play some of my good old DOS games but I don't have the energy to go through configuring every single profile. I know OSX has this one program that does it all for you, IIRC Windows does too.

>>57015719
dosbox is good enough, don't be a lazy faggot and set it up correctly, takes you 5 minutes

>>57015684
Disregarding it's closed source, it's pretty good.

>>57015760
I never understood why a programmer, who obviously knows what a program is and which possibilities are available, would ever use a proprietary editor.

any ideas why i can only have one audio source at a time? I'm just using alsa that you get OOTB.

what i mean is like if i play a youtube video and try to play a song on mpd then i get

$ mpc toggle
volume: 34%   repeat: on    random: off   single: off   consume: off
ERROR: Failed to open audio output

if I open a youtube video while a song on mpd is playing the video just loads and it tells me that i should "restart my device if playback doesn't start shortly"

same thing with mpv if I have a youtube video open or a song playing then I get

[ao/alsa] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
[ao/oss] Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-1000/default/jack_0 failed (err=No such file or directory)
attempt to connect to server failed
[ao/jack] cannot open server
[ao] Failed to initialize audio driver 'jack'
Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
Audio: no audio

also tried this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Dmix but nothing changed

>>57015538
he said lightweight

KDE5 on debian stable when?

>>57015806
Wow, I had the same problem some years ago. If I remember correctly, I didn't set up my asoundrc correctly. Check the archwiki.

>>57015806
>not using pulseaudio

>>57015829
Probably not in our life time

>>57015829
When stretch is released.

>>57015876
>using pulseaudio
>>57015829
Why would you do that?

>>57015505
>best
The one i am using

I just installed Arch Liux andI have a few questions:
Why do I have to enter the root password just once if I use sudo?
So if I enter it one time any dickhead can fuck up my system ?
What DE should I use?

>>57016287
Why not?

>>57016724
http://askubuntu.com/questions/636092/how-to-get-sudo-to-prompt-you-for-a-password-each-time

>>57016287
It's not like pulse is something different; it's improving alsa. People who "prefer" just alsa usualy know shit about the linux audio structure. It's definitive not some random bloat nobody needs.

>>57016724
Try again in 10 minutes

>>57016724
>Why do I have to enter the root password just once if I use sudo?
-su-do
>So if I enter it one time any dickhead can fuck up my system ?
What
>What DE should I use?
Plasma 5.8

>>57016724
>I just installed Arch Liux
of course you have questions :^)

>>57016724
Why did you install Arch instead of any other distro? I'm curious why people install this pile of shit.

>>57016753
>>57016760
>>57016762
>>57016782
I luv you <3

>>57016796
I have the feeling that it doesn't get as much hate as other distributions.

>faggots actually starting using GNU/Linux for name, even adding a G to the /short/ name
enjoy getting less people in here due to your autism

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>>57016831
>not enjoying autism
get out normie

>>57016831
>he doesn't have autism

>>57016831
I get more people interested when talking about a project to make a fully free OS than when talking about a project by a student for fun.

>>57016831
Normies don't care about names, once they learn it's GNU/Linux they move on, instead of being butthurt

Do you guys recomend an x201 for some distro? Will only use it as a learning machine

>>57016831
>>57016927
sorta.
how a normal person would react to being told its 'GNU/LInux', after having heard about it as 'linux'
>I guess thats like the official name or something? alright whatever, gotcha
to hearing about stallmans beef over it
>lol ocd nerd haha xD
being corrected about it
>lol dude who cares chill xD
How an insecure vir/g/in reacts:
>OH MY GOD YOU'RE SUCH AN AUTISTIC FREAK WHATS WRONG WITH YOU LMAO FUCK YOU NERDS
>FUCKING TOE-JAM EATING NECKBEARD JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>FUCKING AUTIST LOSER HAHAHAHAAHAHA
exxageration, of course.
They essentially construct an archetype, out of /g/, that exemplifies the(within these memes context, of course) worst, most awful sort of features in the memes of 'loser,' 'virgin', 'autism' etc, and desperately wish to distance themselves from it as much as possible. This results in a pathological hostility(if not always anger or agression) towards the other denizens of the board.
or, thats what It looks like to me.

Why does my urxvt version not have True Color support

>>57017138
this

what's the origin of these vaporwave macros?

I've seen them all over chans this week

I'm installing Debian on my laptop, is it ok if i don't use a swap partition? But if i really need to use one, how large should it be?

im on windows 7, need c#, php, etc, and I just cant be honestly fucked to switch, is there any reason to change?

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>>57017376
You can't hibernate on that case.
>>57017386
Windows 7 is going to be deprecated soon. Microsoft doesn't respect its users

>>57017412
yeah *sigh* - thats why i think windows 10 now is the way to go

>>57017425
never thought id say that

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How do I use ranger to copy files?

I'm ssh'd from my one thinkpad to another and I'm trying to copy a file from the ssh server to my local machine

I know I can just cp but what if I want to use ranger?

>>57017376
You should have a swap partition just in case you can just set swappiness at 1 so it will never swap unless you run out of ram

>>57017449
You are moving to windows 10 not because you absolutely loved it, you are being forced into it.

That's how bad Microsoft owns you

>>57017531
>>57017412
Thanks for the advice, btw i have 8gb of ram and i don't think i will hibernate so i guess a swap partition is useless in this case

So if I want just plain xfce without the bundled software I should install each package one by one instead of dnf install @xfce-desktop-enviroment?

>>57017165
I just was added recently. Built it from the newest source.
>>57017310
Synthwave != Vaporwave
>>57017386
Windows is malware. https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html
>>57017612
If you install a package which is part of a DE, you usually pull a lot of dependencies with it.
Either use xfce and remove packages you don't like or get completly DE free.

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Something ate my memory, /fglt/!

I have an alert set up when my memory drops below 10% and today I got so many warnings. I checked the memory usage of Firefox, ~2GB, checked out other apps... not much. If I do free I get:

 free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            15G        3.4G        915M        506M         11G         11G
Swap:           15G         48M         15G

hmm... could FF be the cause of this?

After quitting FF, memory looks like this:

free -mh
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            15G        1.6G        2.5G        269M         11G         13G
Swap:           15G         47M         15G

Not much difference. Still 11G in buff/cache.

So, why does free report 915M? What's in buff/cache? How do I clean that shit out without a reboot?

I'm new to Linux and I know that in OSX I can just use "purge" and get all my RAM back. But I have no idea how that works in Linux and why all my RAM is being eaten up.

>>57017781
http://linuxatemyram.com

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>>57017807
Fascinating! Thank you!

Now I gotta figure out how to setup Psensor so it reports this shit differently...

ps: i almost didn't click that because I thought it's a bullshit non-existent URL. kek

>>57017722
>If you install a package which is part of a DE, you usually pull a lot of dependencies with it.
>Either use xfce and remove packages you don't like or get completly DE free.

I got it figured out. Some reason I was under the assumption that fedoras group install was going to install all the programs it's spin version comes with.

>>57017781
Linux likes to cache shit.

If you REALLY want to clear the RAM cache and buffers you can:

sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches 

This is NOT recommended and will actually slow the system.

>>57018033
That may not work, the new way of doing it is:

sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3

>>57017940
>ps: i almost didn't click that because I thought it's a bullshit non-existent URL. kek
http://niceme.me

Trying out Manjaro now, how different is it from Arch? I know it's arch based but it seems to run pretty well, no complaints over the last month or so of using it.

>>57018216
>how different is it from Arch?
less memes, less work, more fun

>>57017777
Great...but the main problem with Linux is that you can't play most of the games on it.

The sole reason why hardly anyone buys it instead of windows.

>>57018253
Seems that way. I haven't really had to do anything honestly. Even googling shit for fixes is easier than Ubuntu.

>>57018273
>buying Linux

>>57018273
People should think of Windows like they think about any other gaming console. It's nice to have a windows gaming box, but for serious computing there's GNU/Linux.

>>57018273
>but the main problem with Linux is that you can't play most of the games on it.
That's only a problem if you're a child or underage.

>>57018273
>muh games

holy fuck, life is going to hit you hard when you grow up.

>>57018273
there are many games that run on linux native or using WINE.

>>57018397
>child or underage
>or
also stop this meme

>>57018397
>child or underage
kek

>>57018412
>>57018416
you can be a manchild

>>57018410
>>57018397
>he doesn't get a boner when enjoying retro pixel games or mind blasting new technologies
do you even like tech in general?

>>57018416
15-17 year old male kids aren't really children. many of them are in regular prisons. they're considered underage in legal terms.

anyway, you're just some buttmad 18+ manchild NEET.

>>57018443
>do you even like tech in general?
MUH GAYMES
god damn manchild. kys

>>57018447
wew damage control

>>57018443
This. Guys, stop "defending" linux by calling people who like games children. Jesus christ. There's no reason to defend it, there are enough awesome games for linux.

>>57018033
this doesn't work. I actually tried a version of this because this was recommended as an alternative to purge.

>>57018102
this works! TY! I guess this is the new way.

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>>57018472
but it's true. ppl who are over 18 yet they waste their life away on some bullshit addiction are children.

I know that truth hurts... but that's the reality. Fucking man up and quit being a child.

Anyone that still plays video games past the age of 15 should neck himself.

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>ubuntu installer refuses to mount /boot on fat32 efi partition

>>57018793
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

> precessing triggers for man-db


Y U SO SLOW?

>>57018879
>select efi partition as "EFI system partition"
>doesn't allow to set mount point, prompts requirement of separate /boot for encryption support
>select efi partition as fat32 filesystem with /boot mount
>prompts "file system fat32 cannot be mounted on /boot because not fully funtional unix file system"
>meanwhile, arch according to archwiki has no problem with this

>>57018973
>meanwhile, arch according to archwiki has no problem with this

Ubuntu isn't Arch, follow the Ubuntu wiki. You can even install normally and then convert to UEFI.

I want to set up a simple home use file server, if you can even call it that, to stream movies to my Chink box and phones and ps3 running showtime and what not, what distro should I use and what programs? Hopefully I can get everything set up and running in like 2 hours or less. I can use an old eeepc netbook or a x200 Chinkpad for it.

>>57019036
Doesn't really matter, any distro will have what you need. Something like CentOS or Debian will be easier to maintain but that's it. Regarding the programs you'll need, depends on what want exactly, a simple file server requires nothing but SSH (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_File_Transfer_Protocol#SFTP_server).

>>57018548
>I know how to manage my money, to allow me the luxury to spend my freetime playing video games

Sounds like someone is jealous

>using Kubuntu 16.04.1
>lock screen
>get back from WC
>moves mouse
>type my password
>screen doesn't show the blackdots
>screen is frozen
>have to close laptop en reopen in order to
>let me login
what do?

>>57019018
There is nothing on the wiki, including the one you linked, besides suggesting you have both a boot and efi partition.
>Ubuntu isn't Arch
No, in fact, it seems to be better since it documents what Ubuntu itself doesn't, e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1331867#p1331867
Basically, it won't allow fat32 to be mounted as /boot, and might not even work if you manually do so due to symbolic linking.
>You can even install normally and then convert to UEFI
No, at least not easily to my capabilities because my UEFI won't boot GPT disks without EFI, even in legacy boot.

So to summarize: Ubuntu is a piece of shit and I hate it before even having used it.

>>57019264
Then use Arch? Fucking retard.

>>57019282
>use arch
I'm not a stupid kid.

>>57019282
I'm the retard? Ubuntu is so bloated that it bloats up your disk with unnecessary partitions before you've even installed it. It's supposed to be baby's first distro, yet it doesn't even work rationally without you custom installing it like Arch. You can't make this shit up.

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Am i the only one using fedora?

>>57016758
>It's definitive not some random bloat nobody needs.
>pulseaudio
Kek

>>57019398
No you're the retard because you think I care. I don't use Ubuntu. I just find it likely that Ubuntu which was one of the first distributions to support UEFI would allow you to do that but maybe I'm wrong.

>>57019402
Linus apparently uses Fedora. There's at least two of you.

am I the only one using Alpine with software from Arch repos? (Bedrock #1)

>>57018540
I know you have a compulsive need to prove that you're not a loser nerd but the 'games are for kids and dweebs' meme died a long time ago.
Linux doesn't have enough support for games. Its a downside. It looks like its getting better(I dont play vidya terribly often, so im not sure) and should keep getting better, so people dont have to use some terrible thing like windows because something they wanna play isnt on linux.

>>57019621
Just use arch...
There is nothing these derivatives do that already are done on arch

>>57019402
I would but 24 won't boot for me and 25 isn't stable enough for me yet. Crying shame redhat makes it so fucking difficult to change over to the latest proprietary drivers. It's literally 2-3 terminal commands with any other distro.

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>>57019621
>Alpine
>Arch
what are you, supermeme man?

>>57019621
>combining a crippled busybox distro with bloated arch packages
What is wrong with you?

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>>57019579
>because you think I care
Then why respond? Why insult me by suggesting I simply install Arch when I've made it clear I don't even know how to use Ubuntu?
>maybe I'm wrong
Yes, and are in fact the retard in this situation if you lack the reading comprehension to understand this has nothing to do with Ubuntu UEFI support (Ubuntu installs GRUB and that's where "support" ends as far as I know), but /boot needing to be outside of an encrypted volume so GRUB can get at it. The fact remains that the Ubuntu installer restricts you from mounting /boot to FAT partitions, thus requiring a pointless /boot partition on top of your ESP. And it seems you can't even mount manually due to symbolic linking, i.e. Ubuntu won't be able update kernel if you do mount as such. I just learned about this now and that's why I'm posting, and I can't believe it.

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What's the smallest distro ever?

>>57019915
damn small linux sounds like a likely candidate

>>57019915
puppy
32mb

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>>57019915
tiny slitaz

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>>57019915
11MB http://tinycorelinux.net/

>>57019836
I'm sorry I insulted you but I'm not wrong. Here's how you do it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/729673/ubuntu-full-disk-encryption-with-encrypted-boot

>>57019949
>Tiny SliTaz[36] SliTaz 4 MB
guess we have a winner

>>57019915
back in ~2005 or something monowall only took ~1,44 mb

>>57019995
Oh, that's jsut ram usage, 35mb ;_;

>>57019995
That's just a web server. >>57019957 is actually a full OS.

>>57020009
you can tell when the faster internet boom of people getting off DSL happened because all these programs and os's went from trying to be lean to not really caring

>firefox used to only be 4Mb

Just took a Linux quiz:
Last Attempt Details:
* Some questions not yet graded
Time: 417 minutes

Kek.

>>57020109
dsl, I mean dialup

What's a good distro to run on a headless Rpi?

>>57020130
http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions

Gentoo or Plan 9 for maximum memes

>>57020115
Also, it told me to rename a file but didn't specify to keep a copy of the file pre-rename. The following question was to remove the file I just renamed(the original name).

>>57020160
I was looking for something minimal just to do some programming on.
I was thinking Arch.

>>57019967
>I'm not wrong. Here's how you do it
>posts a guide on how to get GRUB to retrieve from encrypted /boot
All I wanted was to mount ESP as /boot, no encryption of /boot. But thanks for the help.

>>57019623
>but the 'games are for kids and dweebs' meme died a long time ago.
No it didn't you fucking beta manchild cuck.

>>57020283
If you don't want to encrypt /boot then why is "boot needing to be outside of an encrypted volume" a problem? You don't even need a /boot partition. All you need is a EFI partition and /. The only requirements (regardless of distro) are that the EFI partition can't be encrypted and it can't be /boot (because GRUB uses /boot) which makes the usual EFI partition /boot/efi.

>>57020207
Arch isn't lightweight.

>>57020782
what
would
you
recommend

>>57020207
Arch is a good choice

>>57020816
arch is a meme

>>57020835
ur um is a meme :-D

>>57020816
Nice meme.

>>57020855
See >>57020844

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>>57020816
>>57020835
>>57020844
>>57020855
>>57020876

>>57013686
Even installing arch, not to start with things like Gentoo or LFS teaches you loads about Linux system administration and configuration, you acquire a much deeper knowledge on how the whole system works, which in the cs world in undoubtedly useful knowledge, even if you're not going into IT or sysadmin stuff

>>57020844
Let me explain.

The meme people are falling for:
>Arch Linux - A simple and lightweight Linux distribution

The reality:
Kernel bloated with literally all modules available, packages twice as huge as on other distros, the only lightweight thing on Arch is the non-existant installer.

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>>57021015
archkids will defend this

>>57021015
>Kernel bloated with literally all modules available,
Oh you again. Proves how boring your life is for actively springing on a specefic distro.

The kernel parameters can be set according to your autism spectrum before installation. Not that you would know because you never really installed Arch.

Employed people use a kernel that works.

>packages twice as huge as on other distros,

Wrong. I always give you a simple example: install screenfetch. It's just a bash script. However, debian decides to install scrot as a dependency. The repo of debian is bloated no matter what you do with your package manger, it's not going to change anything on debian repo servers.


>the only lightweight thing on Arch is the non-existant installer.
If you need an installer there is architect, arch anywhere and antergos.

Text installers are objectively far more flexible

>>57021039
Samefagging doesn't help

>>57021110
>Debian decides to install scrot as a dependency.

You can disable this.

>>57021129
That doesn't mean debian repo is bloated to shit

>>57021129
>>57021140
Why is a screenshooter a dependency?

>>57021140
Employed people use repos that work.

>>57021110
>debian decides to install scrot as a dependency
no

youre right, screenfetch is a bash script, but try installing any other program, you get not only the binary, you get source code, docs, and a lot of other jazz you don't really need

>>57021146
Because screenfetch has an option to use scrot to take a screenshot so the package maintainer decided to include scrot as a suggestion.

>>57021110
suggestions != dependencies

learn2apt

>>57021147
Exactly

>>57021150
SMPlayer installs youtube-dl

>>57021158
Yeah, it could be a suggestion, but it installs by default

>>57021170
>Learn2apt
Bull crap, dnf, zypper and pacman won't isntall scrot automatically

>>57021110
>Employed people use a kernel that works.
Actually lightweight: Debian.
- comes with a completly deblobbed kernel
- need a module for your hardware? asks you if you want to install it.

Now compare:
1 module vs ALL modules

>>57021173
It's a design decision, most people that use Debian want to install something and have the full functionality. You can however configure it to not do that, so if that bothers you can disable it, which is what I did.

>all these pieces of shit arguing about Arch without providing a lighter alternative
someone says Arch and you lose your fucking minds, god have mercy on this board

>>57021191
>apt installs scrot automatically
pix or it didnt happen

>>57021208
>comes with a completly deblobbed kernel
Freetard* kernel
FTFY
>need a module for your hardware? asks you if you want to install it.
Yeah, I'd rather start with a kernel that works. Say hello to my SSD, broadcom and my nvidia

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>>57021224
Welcome to /rvt/ - Red team VS Blue team

>>57021238
b*

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>>57021225
BTFO, debqueen

>>57021259
That's not what he said though.

>>57021235
>hating on freedom
Now you're going too far.

>>57021212
>install something and have the full functionality
How about enabling your graphics card and non free wifi module then?

>>57021264
That's exactly what he said. If I pass -y it will install scrot automatically

>>57021267
Here friend: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

>>57021259
>[y/n]
So much about "automatically".
BTFO archcuck

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>>57021238
I'm just happy fedora isn't the one being bashed for once.

>>57021276
You fucking clueless retard read >>57021272

>>57021285
fedora is just red hat testing, who even talks about it

>>57021285
Because nobody is using it (for a good reason).

>>57021272
That's not apt installing scrot automatically, which is what you said.

>>57021273
Nice now those modules are enabled by default

>>57021306
Are you retarded?

>>57021296
>>57021303
or they are busy using it doing work instead of having to always configure a broken system

>>57021313
>fedora
>doing work
they'd be using RHEL if they were actually doing work

>>57021310
Are you retarded?

Install scrot alone to see how it looks like when apt installs something automatically.

>>57021310
No but you seem to be. I'm not the original guy, he tried to bait you because you said "apt installs scrot automatically" which it obviously doesn't do. It only installs it after you try to install screenfetch, which is what you meant and everybody understood but it's not what you said.

>apt installs scrot automatically
Is this the new "apt can't remove gnome-core"?

>>57021348
obviously the same troll

>>57021348
To be honest most arguments against Arch and Debian here are absolutely retarded. In the end people value different things differently, nobody is wrong, it's just preference.

Just installed screenfetch, it actually does installs scrot with it

kek

Just installed Arch, it actually broke python

kek

>>57021348
>>57021366
hehehehe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NysoCN9RR_c

Debcucks on permanent suicide watch

Just installed gentoo, it actually just works

kek

>>57021404
Oh so butthurt


python
Python 3.5.2 (default, Sep 10 2016, 08:21:44)
[GCC 5.4.0 20160609] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>

Shit works, apt doesn't
which scrot
/usr/bin/scrot

>>57021408
This was aleady debunked. Retard should have remove gnome like a normal human being instead of gnome-core. Try harder kiddo.

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>2 hours since I asked for recommendations
>still just arch shitflinging

>arguing about a 25kb program

>>57021433
He didn't install any package called gnome, why should he uninstall gnome?

>>57021429
Try

python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080

Works on all distros except on Arch

>>57021393
For those that wish to disable this:

/etc/apt/apf.conf

APT::Install-Recommends "0";

>>57021449
He actually installed gnome-core? He's even more retarded than I thought. There's no reason to install gnome-core.

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>>57021446
hello and welcome to friendly linux threads

>>57021442
It's Arch vs Debian. Next up spaces vs tabs.

>>57015237
>>57015406
This is flt, not Arch irc

>>57021469
GNOME-core is a preconfigured desktop, there are reasons why people install it, asswipe

Watch the fucking video first

>>57021484
Arch is clear winner of that
Real challenge is Arch vs Gentoo.
I think Debian vs Fedora is more fair.

>>57021452
it works on arch, you need to prefix it with python2 since arch fucks up with linking python to the correct versions

>>57021500
By what metric is Arch the clear winner? Your preference?

>>57021452
>Sets up HTTP
>Cannot set a symlink
Debibabbies, everyone

I'm rooting for the debian senpai, the arch senpai keeps writing blog posts

>>57021506
How about a good pacakge repo and a package manager?

>>57021503
I know, but users shouldn't need to fix stupid shit like that, a distro should work bug free.

>>57021520
Isn't that subjective?

>>57021506
I use Arch because AUR is comfy as fuck

Try setting up this on debian
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kcm-wacomtablet/

>>57021523
Are you implying Linux will never move to python 3 in any year?

>Debqueens on damage control
lmao +1

Archfag out

>>57021490
>GNOME-core is a preconfigured desktop
No, dickhead. gnome is the DE, gnome-core is part of the DE; the core, not the complete DE, only the core. CORE.

>>57021532
AUR is indeed nice. I use Debian because it has everything I need. Linux is great.

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lol

>>57021562
You don't know what you are talking about, newfag

gnome-core installs gnome plus some other shit like firefox and everything

>>57021543
python3 isn't a new version of python
python got upleveld from 1 to 2 without changing the name, but python3 is incompatible to python since many things changed drastically, that's why it has it's own link, so you have basically 2 different python languages, python (which include all versions below 3) and python3. archdevs are just too stupid to realize that and try to be "bleeding edge" on the wrong ends

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>>57021576

>>57021509
>needs to fix his shit distro before he can do basic stuff

>>57021612
get the fuck out of here already, complaining about the smallest little nitpick
>python3 isn't a new version of python
fuck off retard

>>57017781
>>57017940
use "available", not "free"

I hope the next thread is more friendly.

>>57021719
You're right, let's move on.

New and friendly thread: >>57021725

>>57021713
I hope you're aware that many programs use python. Fucking around with the link breaks programs that start with "#!/usr/bin/env python", which expect the default python (like on any other distro).

>>57021781
If you really do use that many non-repo python programs, then you can probably spare 30 seconds to make them work.

>>57021793
What makes you think that these programs are not in the Arch repos? Do you really think Arch devs open every single package and fix the bang? No. It's pure luck when these programs work without errors.

>>57021824
It should be the maintainer's responsibility to make sure they work. If they don't you should alert the maintainer.

Out of curiosity, which programs do you use that do not run correctly because of this?

>>57018507
if you're dropping caches to "save memory", you're doing it wrong
caches help speed things up with zero disadvantage
you're only hurting your performance

>>57021452
ahem

python -m http.server 8000

>>57021915
thats python3 you pleb, this command works only on arch and will fail on other systems

>>57022022
yes, i know it's the current version of python

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>>57021235
What kind of shitty SSD doesn't work without proprietary bloat?

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>>57021713

For some reason, my Xfce4 broke and it won't go past "Performing Autostart..." in the splash screen.

I have installed LXDE, it works fine, but I am more comfortable in Xfce since I've been using it for years.

I purged Xfce and re installed it two times, and it still brings back my old splash screen and gets stuck there. How can I remove the saved session manually? What should be removed in order for this to reset? I can't even get the desktop to work.