/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

What's a good lightweight Linux distro for a headless Raspberry Pi?

I was hoping to use it for programming, and I have an intermediate amount of experience with Linux.

Second for Arch and Debian are both terrific Linux distributions.

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>>57021768
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

So on arch systems to switch /tmp back to the HDD do I just comment out the tmpfs line in my fstab?

>>57021820
Yes.

>>57021839
apparently I needed this too
systemctl mask tmp.mount

I use arch on my desktop because the way I use my desktop makes the AUR extremely appealing.
I use totally free debian system for my school laptop, because I dont often install new things or do more than a handful of tasks on it, so a stable, mostly static system is good.

>>57021875
>systemctl
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REMOVE SYSTEMD
REMOVE SYSTEMD

>>57021918
systemctl enable butthurt.service

>>57021891
Good reasoning.

>>57021918
This is a friendly thread, please respect others.

>>57021945
THANKS FOR THE PID1 ACCESS YOU FUCK

>>57021966
You are being very rude.

>>57021979
Arch devs should have thought about that before they shit on my system.

>>57021753
Rasbian or Arch

>>57021985
You can remove it, you know
systemd-free.org/install.php

>>57021966
#systemctl disable butthurt.service -f

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/r/archlinux is making fun of us again.

>>57022373
>>>/r/eddit

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>>57021753
Rasbian I think it's called or Arch Linux. Rasbian will probably work better because it's designed for it, but doesn't really matter.

>>57021768
I agree. Arch and Debian are fantastic.

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how do I install gentoo

>>57022600
You must believe in freedom and you shall understand the path of enlightenment.

>>57022600
Install Gentoo
http://www.tecmint.com/gentoo-linux-installation-guide/
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation

Arch Linux - Now with more elitism:

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2016-October/042184.html

Someone help me out here. What the hell happened to Kubuntu? I used to recommend it to all the newbs, but now it's apparently total broken garbage? What gives?

>>57022742
You seem to be pretty fascinated with that distro.

Go ahead and install it, you know you want to :^)q

>>57022796
There was some drama between the lead developer and Canonical and then KDE Neon came out.

>>57022796
Kubuntu had project Neon but Neon has its own distro now.

No reasons left to install kubuntu

>>57022839
>>57022843

Ah alright, thanks for the explanation. I've always been a Funtoo guy so hadn't caught wind of the drama.

what distro do you install if you're a weeaboo

>>57022892
It's actually hilarious. Basically the founder of Kubuntu Jonathan Riddell was asked to resign by Canonical because there were some disagreements between them, so he resigns and makes KDE Neon and now Kubuntu is dead as a result. Canonical started off so well but they have been making one mistake after the one for years now, it's actually amazing how much they keep fucking up.

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arch: no better than starch, keeps crashing since march, pacman smells of farts, supports no grapics cards, learning curve is hard, userbase is twats

I just install a linux distrubution and was wondering if I install packages, will the OS get bloated and run at a slower speed?

For some reason, my Xfce4 broke and it won't go past "Performing Autostart..." in the splash screen.

I have installed LXDE, it works fine, but I am more comfortable in Xfce since I've been using it for years.

I purged Xfce and re installed it two times, and it still brings back my old splash screen and gets stuck there. How can I remove the saved session manually? What should be removed in order for this to reset? I can't even get the desktop to work.

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My school has a Linux lab where all the computers use ubuntu.
I was curious if anyone else is in uni, and has a Linux lab, what distro does your school use?

>>57023285
REMINDER: This is a friendly thread.

>>57023317
Not really.

>>57023355
It's just one buttmad shitposter with nothing else to do with his life

>>57023348
Last time I went they use using Ubuntu.

>>57023317
Packages that just run when you launch them and end when you exit them won't slow anything down just by being installed.

If you install packages that start automatically when you boot the computer or when you log in, it can slow booting down a tad. If you install a lot packages that run constantly in the background and do a lot of heavy lifting, they can slow things down.

>>57023328
Oh fuck I fixed it I think, but this will be annoying to get my stuff back on again.

I had to rename several directories in .config and .session that had xfce4 in it. Then re installed it.

Oh man.

>>57021966

>look ma i can throw around fancy word like "PID1" and "access"

>>57022742

Ugh, why do you embarrass yourself? I mean, if you aren't familiar with a topic why do you comment on it? I'd feel really embarrassed, even if it's anonymously over the internet.

The beginner's guide is redundant and unnecessary. All it did was duplicate information found on other pages on the Wiki. All the information is still there, you just have to click the links in the appropriate sections, instead of all the sections being built-in into the page.
You are really stupid and should definitely consider killing yourself.

>tfw you installed gentoo but now there is nothing left to conquer
Shieet

>>57023821
Try cross compiling, distcc, or compile everything on a single core CPU.

>>57023908
That's just a time sink though. Gentoo was a worthy and useful aspiration. My dual-core laptop is flying now.

I guess it's time to try BSD on the old desktop.

Is it worth it reinstalling Arch all over? Been using it for over a year and there's leftover files everywhere from when I was DE/WM hopping, not to mention the random packages I've got from AUR.

I don't know how to clean up properly so I'd rather reinstall everything from default.

How do I remove the title bar that also have the _[]X on the top right in xfce? I want it to be just a border so I can save up on vertical space and just use Alt+Space shortcuts, they are faster. Or Super+Click to move windows.

>>57023943

>My dual-core laptop is flying now
Can you back that up with objectively and properly gathered data?

>>57023947
list explicitly installed packages;

pacman -Qe

remove orphans (not explicitly installed nor depended on anything)

pacman -Rsc $(pacman -Qtdq)

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I'm a bit confused here. I've been learning how to use i3 for like 2 and a half hours, but for some reason, my bar keeps showing this error, no matter what I do. Any ideas what the problem may be?

tl;dr, I'm probably stupid and my i3 bar isn't working right.
>Pic related

>>57023993
Well well, lots of these orphans seems required to me. ffmpeg is listed for example.

>>57023966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TwS18cWVag

>>57024010
what you do is you read the list (i know, reading!) and you write down things you want to keep, then install them after, so they become explicitly installed
same with removing explicitly installed things, sometimes you'll find things you want to keep in the list, just reinstall them after

>>57024044
I don't mind reading I'm just afraid of shit breaking down if I'd uninstall it. I think I'm gonna do some backups and reinstall cleanly though.

>>57024018
Perfect, thanks. Now to find a decent dark theme that works with light colors because for some damn reason, it blends in with other light colors in the text area and I can't read shit.

Hi.

Currently I am on Debian, and I feel comfortable using it and also the command line. Which distro should I upgrade to? It a Thinkpad X200T with intel wifi link 5100 if that matters.

>>57024100
Gentoo

>>57024000
Something is probably broken in your i3 status config file.

>>57024018

>tfw that person died

>>57024080
>>57024018
Oh rip, Alt+Space then X doesn't really maximize for some reason.

>>57024250

Don't just follow instructions blindly, see for yourself. When you bring up the client menu (the one with all the options to minimize, maximize, etc), see which letter is underlined as that is the shortcut to trigger the action.

>>57023348
My school uses centOS

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What's a gud place to learn the command line?

>>57024320
>>>/t/713097# - /t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos

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>>57024306
I have checked, check it out. I used a similar borderless window before on my other computer, but I wanted to see a formal way of doing it. I didn't use his script, but used the other method, but seems like the Xfce I just re installed didn't come with this option for some reason, it's not only with the browser.

This is really werid.

>>57024320

The command line, by doing.

>>57024358
Oh, it's the theme I'm using

>tfw find a decent theme
>turns out it doesn't have something you use
Damn, every time.

>>57023348
We had Debian but these fucks replaced it with Mint.

>>57024000
Do you have a config-file in ~/.i3/ ?

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How much does this old pic stand?

Having used xfce and unity, I agree.

>>57024554
I have tried LXDE earlier and it looks pretty comfy desu. But I'm too used to Xfce now that I can't go back ;_;

Though, I wish to use i3 or tiling window managers, but getting used to the hotkeys might take a while and I have little time for that at the moment.

>>57024554

Only a fool would take those analogy pictures seriously and consider them when making a choice.

Those pictures are only meant for a laugh, based on stereotypes. Nothing more. By doing that they're actually harmful, because idiots start treating it as the truth and then they spread myths and wrong information based on it.

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So, after i installed Nvidea drivers console went shit.
I tried changing fonts but it didn't help. Looks like those drivers think that i have a very small screen resolution.
Uninstalling those drivers returns everything back to normal.

Is there any way to fix this shit?

>>57025012
startx then see if you can change the resolution.

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Help, something happened and now code and hyperlinks look like this. My computer went to login and exited my desktop enviroment during a pacman -Syu upgrade.

>>57025041
Change fonts?

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>>57025048
reading documentation has become slightly more difficult.

>>57025012
no, the nvidia drivers don't support KMS nor provide direct framebuffer access, so enjoy your textmode outside of X

>>57025041
>>57025079
seems monospace text is using an inappropriate font
set your browsers' default monospace font to something else

>>57025023

>startx
>affecting his tty settings

No. It's like I'm reading a comment on the Ubuntu forums.

>>57025012

Try this:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks#Setting_the_framebuffer_resolution

I don't know anything about network security. Are the default settings for ufw (UncomplicatedFirewall) fine?

>>57025041

There have been threads on the Arch forums about people having the same problems. Look them up for solutions.

Le me guess, you're using Infinality or some other convoluted solution to a simple problem together with 100 packages from the AUR created by children which replaced packages from the official repository.

>>57025079
Change monospace fonts from firefox

>>57025118

Most likely, but I'm a layman myself.
Ufw's default policy is to block any incoming traffic, which is a nice "catch-all" rule. If you want to allow something to connect, just add a new rule. Also, depending on your use case, I recommend using firewalld instead. It's the superior choice for people with laptops that roam around a lot because it can assign firewall zones with specific settings for each network. Ufw is fine for a desktop.

>>57025141

That's a shitty solution because he might run into the same problem with other programs using monospaced fonts that aren't Firefox. It's recommended to fix problems upstream; in this case the fontconfig settings.

>>57025118
ufw isn't enabled by default

#ufw enable && systemctl enable ufw.service -f

>>57025151
If that were the case, his terminal would show gibberish

>>57025159

No, it wouldn't, depending on your settings. If you specify the font explicitly by name, it will show it without problems. If you however didn't and your terminal is also set to use the "monospace" alias, then it would show gibberish.

>>57025152

>ufw isn't enabled by default

That's a vague statement because you don't know which distribution he's using and what its default settings are.

>>57025152
>>57025213
I'm on Ubuntu. Everything was allowed by default until I ran "ufw enable". It seems to successfully block incoming connections now. Do I also need to run "systemctl enable ufw.service -f"? What does that do?

>>57023981
You want me to post a video if the thing flying out of the window after realizing I wasted a huge amount of time on installing a meme distro?

>>57025233

>everything was allowed by default
Because you had no firewall (rules) running.

>Do I also need to run "systemctl enable ufw.service -f"? What does that do?
Read this[0] to find out what it does and if you need it. Hint: systemd manages services (programs) which run automatically when you boot your computer and this is related to it.

[0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Using_units

>>57025304
>Because you had no firewall (rules) running.
ufw defaults to block all by default

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I just tried qBittorrent under GNOME and file picker looks like shit. Why? Because it uses Qt? So does qB only look good under KDE or something? How do I make it look good? Thanks in advance.

>>57025321

Yes, but you didn't have ufw enabled. When you executed "ufw enable" that's when it actually started running.

>>57025349
>qB only look good under KDE or something?
KDE and lxqt

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>>57025349
Just switch to KDE already

>>57025349

That's the default Qt file-dialog.
You can make Qt5 programs use your GTK settings, which includes fonts, icons and the file-dialog but not themes by using the "QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME" environment variable. Try setting it to gtk2 or gtk3 (depending on your version of Qt5 one might not work, because there have been some changes recently).

>>57025395

>switching out every program you use just to make one program look differently

Don't be ridiculous.

>>57025379

No, you can make Qt programs look the same on any environment. Don't be an idiot.

>>57025399
thanks! will research this.

>>57025105
Tried everything, nothing works

>>57025435

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=214147

Ok, if this problem can't be fixed, can i somehow force those drivers to lie still when i need it?
Make two boot options with them and without?

Is elementary os rpm based disto or Ubuntu based?

>>57025516
What problem?
>>57025590
Ubuntu based

>>57025630
>>57025012

>>57025668
Does it affect your GUI?

>>57025730
It doesn't.
GUI works perfectly

>>57025630
>>57025630
What desktop environment does it use,

>>57025740
It's called pantheon. It's not dependant on GNOME. In fact it is written from the scratch.

>>57025739
I'm willing to bet you won't be using your console very much.

Anyways you should look for ways to resize your framebuffer

i've seen before a lot of posts 'bout "cut" command, people can use this command easily... so, indeed this command is useful. Is anybody here that know management of it?

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Hey guys! I messaged a couple threads ago about some issue about installing Arch. I finished the install, and managed to get Arch booted.

I have another question, every time I boot I see this little text up the top, do any of you know how to get rid of it? I press enter and the login prompt shows, so it doesn't impede me in any way, but it just looks ugly.

Need a good clock for my minimal desktop (Openbox). Right now I'm doing

while : ; do date +'%H:%M'; sleep 60; done

in a terminal window. Is it possible to redirect output to the desktop (as in printing it on the desktop/wallpaper at given x,y coordinates and refreshing every 60 seconds) or make the Openbox menu display time when opened? I tried the X clock because it seems to be the most minimal one but it disappears (?) when I switch window.

>>57025931
That's DMESG output on console, there was a command to disable it, can't remember it though. DDG


I need to forward all DNS requests from my network @ 200.0.0.0 to my server @ 192.168.xx.100, however something's wrong. Are these Mikrotik rules correct?

add action=dst-nat chain=dstnat comment="DNS TCP from outside" dst-address=200.0.0.0 dst-port=53 protocol=tcp to-addresses=192.168.xx.100 \
    to-ports=53

add action=dst-nat chain=dstnat comment="DNS from outside" dst-address=200.0.0.0 dst-port=53 log=yes log-prefix=DNS_OUTSIDE protocol=udp to-addresses=192.168.xx.100 to-ports=53

>>57023348

We used debian

>>57025916
Type

man cut his dick off

in the terminal.

>>57025931
Use a search engine. Fixing it can require anything from changing a setting to recompiling the kernel.

>>57026618
Conky?

>>57026781
No experience with Mikrotik but is the xx because you censored it yourself or is it part of the actual rule? Seems more like a global wildcard (*) should be used but then again I have no experiece with Mikrotik rules so it might be correct.

>>57025931

The "sd 6:0..." parts are related to storage media. Do you have an USB flash drive plugged in? I'm getting those messages when I plug in mine. Try removing it during the boot process to see if they disappear.

The "drm:intel..." one is related to your GPU. Search the internet what it means. I wouldn't recommend disabling the DMESG output, but rather try to fix the hardware issue.

>>57026618

Do you use a panel or taskbar? Most of those come with a clock display.

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What VNC server do you recommend to install on manjaro?
One that support Xsession.
I tried VINO but I only got a terminal emulator, and startx didn't work.

>>57026947
>Conky?
Seems like it would do the work. Will give it a try.

>>57027104
No, I don't want to waste precious pixels on a panel when it can be used for better things such as displaying another line of a shitpost on 4chan. :^)

>>57026618
You could set that script to be your x root window name and have it be displayed in dmenu.

So anons i have one question:
Could you suggest me some tool for hacking wifi password?

I will move into new house this weekend and there is not internet, i cant do shit without internet.
I need something until i get my own

>>57027300
aircrack-ng, raven

>>57027300
Use your phone's data connection or go to a restaurant with free wifi.

why is xfce so shit, you literally cant do anything from the keyboard

be sure to like comment and subscribe to my blog.

>>57027346
man 1 gig of phone internet is +2euros, i dont want to give them money

>>57027368
>he doesn't know how to set keyboard shortcuts from window manager

>upgrade to *buntu 16 LTS
>lmao complete system lockups randomly, at least like once a day
>freezes during a really fucking long computation, decide to do something about it
>upgrade to latest stable kernel (4.8 or someshit)
>system lockups gone
>now youtube fullscreen is sub 10 FPS instead
just werks

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>>57027300

Why do you people think that there's a tool where you click "h4ck dis wifi"? If it were that straightforward, don't you think that everyone would be doing?

>>57027450
it's pretty much the case as long as one neighbour is a dumbfuck tho

>>57027450
my experience with aircrack is it's simpler to socially engineer then wait the gazillion hours in hopes your word list picks something up.

On Arch, how do I activate the NumLock key when starting X? Surely there must be some better and less autistic way than downloading a fucking package and launching it from .xinitrc? I notice some DEs or login manages can handle that but that's even more bloat so no thanks. I just want to fucking edit a fucking line in a fucking config file and be fucking done with it.

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How to prevent WINE from running windows applications without the user knowledge / approval?

>>57027418
oh snap you just made my life so much easier

>>57027443
>youtube fullscreen
What player are you using? Chances are it's that. Try

$ mpv --ytdl (url)

>>57027549
html5 player on the site, i mean i shouldnt have to use a separate player to watch youtube vids

>>57027518

It's not possible. Either use that numlockx package or a display manager like SDDM which can handle it. It's stupid to use SDDM when the numlockx package provides that functionality.

>Please be civil
Into trash it goes.

>>57026618
You can print the Time to your wallpaper with imagemagick, but a better way would be tint2 or lemonbar. while : ; do date +'%H:%M'; sleep 60; done | lemonbar
>>57027300
What you're referring to as hacking is actually called cracking.
>>57027549
--ytdl is enabled by default, no need to set it.

I'm in stallman's conf
He just took off his shoes kek

I want to try to debloat the kernel I compiled on the gentoo install.
Which one is the recommended way
(1)somehow find a way to only compile kernel the way I want
(2)choose the easyway and reinstalled from scratch and let the config tui script do the job for me.

>>57027588
>i shouldnt have to use a separate player to watch youtube vids
then why are you trying to?

or do you play your local media with youtubes' html5 player?

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I'm training to be a sysadmin and my company is almost exclusively using windows-based stuff, which makes me very unhappy. Today I practiced setting up an active directory server with exchange and I was wondering:

Can anybody tell me what the equivalent of ad is on Unix-based systems? I don't mean "developedin2016.io" fancy new projects, but rather a "traditional" way of doing things. How did Unix/Linux admins set up and manage company networks in 2005 or before? And how today?

I installed Ubuntu last night. What are some things I should run now? I think I'm supposed to run apt-get update and upgrade, right? Please help.

This is all replies to the last thread.

>>57015246
I think RTFM is a friendly and helpful response, especially for new comers. They're the ones who need to read the manual most.

>>57015505
>lightweight, minimal, simple, rolling release, bleeding edge, customizable and user-friendly distro for weekday desktop use?
These all fit your criteria:
- Debian Unstable/Sid
- Arch
- OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

>>57021484
>Next up spaces vs tabs.
Good:
- Tabs are flexible
- Spaces are consistent

Bad:
- Spaces are inflexible
- Tabs are inconsistent

Obvious truth: Be consistent within a project, either way.

>>57027518
>>57027596
Works fine in my bios

>>57027521
Dont execute wine

>>57028669
those are useful. in addition to that install things you need and want to use.

>>57028254
Tell him the audio recording equipment he is using, is non free software

Film it

>>57028733
What about autorun?
Or files disguised as other files?
Like flv/avi?
Is there a way to make it so everytime wine try to run, it should ask for approval?

>>57028590
There's stuff using Kerberos which is old as fuck but not really an AD equivalent. There other main one is OpenLDAP.

>>57028590
nfs shares

>>57028766
Dont run it?

>>57028769
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LDAP_software

Looking here, there's also 389 Directory Server (and it's front-end FreeIPA) by Red Hat.

Do you guys use a swap partition in Arch? I have 8 gb of RAM and I've read that I shouldn't need a swap partition

>>57028675
arch isn't lightweight
all distros are customizeable

>>57028910
Swap file

>>57028948
What do you mean?

>>57028965
You can use a swap file instead of a partition.

>>57028910
If you have more then 2gb of ram, you dont need swap

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Live

>>57029042
Ask him if that projector uses libre firmware

>>57029052
Not polite to interrupt others while they talk

>>57029084
Just interject him,i heard he likes that

>>57029042
Please tell him some sandnigger say hi.

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>>57029000
Yeah, but a swap file isn't as safe or easy to use for hibernation.

>>57028910
If you ever go over 8 GB of ram, then having a swap partition will keep your computer from becoming absolutely slow and fucked up, but that's unlikely to happen unless you're doing some really memory-intensive stuff.

The primary use for a swap partition these days is for hibernation. In order to preserve the entire state of currently running programs, it basically copies all of your RAM into the swap partition. The swap is then loaded back into RAM when you next boot up.

So if you want your computer to be capable of hibernation, then you need a swap partition that's a little bigger than how much RAM you have.

>>57029042
RMS in his natural habitat. Beautiful creature.

>>57029042
The place is full of archfags and their stickers

>>57028766
Wine can't do things on it's own, the Windows environment is only started when you run Wine. Having said that, WINE isn't a virtual machine or a container, it's a compatibility layer so WINE programs can do what your native Linux programs can do. If you want to isolate WINE programs you'll have to either make a user just for it or run WINE inside of a container but depending on what programs you use that's not really feasible because sometimes WINE has to have access the root file system.

>>57029139
Arch: GNU/Linux without the freedom. It's probably best that Arch people attend an RMS talk.

>>57029151
>If you want to isolate WINE programs you'll have to either make a user just for it
That's what I'm currently doing.

>>57029042
>It's the part with the giant gnu circle and the small kernel missing part.

>>57029167
Yep you can also use things like chroot and firejail which I forgot to mention and are probably easier than proper containers.

>>57028716

It's set to turn on in my BIOS too and it works up to when X gets started and then it gets turned off again.

>>57028910

>use [x] in [x]

Swap usage isn't distribution specific. There is no difference between using swap in Arch, Ubuntu or Fedora.

>>57029227
>firejail
I know about this.
But chroot?
How?

>>57029516
firejail uses chroot

How can i list computers on my network?
On windows you have that "Network" in mycomputer where all devices are listed

>>57029553
nmap

>>57029587
nmap 127.0.0.1?

>>57029636
sP 1.1.1.0/24

what is the common linux distro [besides gentoo]?
i have a dell dimension e510 as a test comp for distros. atm, it has lubuntu on it. is kubuntu better or?

I installed Debian recently and I've had a fuckton of issues. Intel 8260 Wireless is unclaimed. I installed the nonfree iwlwifi firmware, still not working. I tried upgrading the kernel from 3.16 to 4.7, but 4.7 hands on boot and gives a weird error message that I'm not sure how to troubleshoot. Has anyone else experienced this?

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install gentoo?

>>57029656
192.168.1.0/24 or whatever range their network uses.

>>57029758
Did you install firmware-iwlwifi? Did you install it from the Jessie repos or from Jessie-backports repos? Did you upgrade the kernel or did you upgrade from stable to stretch/sid?

>>57029800
obviously...

>>57029800
i tried

nmap -sP 192.168.0.1/250

And i get that one host is up.
I have 2 phones and 2 laptops connected.
My laptop is at 192.168.0.103

>>57029822
It's probably not obvious to the person who was asking. That's why I mentioned it.

>>57024358
try a tiling wm, like i3. it does border less really well.

>>57024924
i3 is really easy, and you don't need too many shortcuts. any other wm feels bloated and slow to me now.

>>57029835
192.168.0.1/24
subnet------^

>>57029835
>nmap -sP 192.168.0.1/250
Not 250, 24.

>>57029821
Installed firmware from jessie repos. For some reason backport didn't work, make defconfig - iwlwifi returns an error message. And yeah I installed an updated kernel image.

>>57029886
>>57029883
Ok now is working, it says 4 hosts, how do i see hostname?

>>57029899
>For some reason backport didn't work

Did you enable the repos by adding:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main
to your sources.list?

>>57029912
sudo

>>57029988
Yessir

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>>57029991
nope it gives me what device is, not hostname

Last manjaro update fucked up badly my system

>>57030021
weird, works on my machine.

>>57030006
After that you have to remove firmware-iwlwifi and run:
apt-get -t jessie-backports install firmware-iwlwifi

If you already did that then I'm not sure.

>>57030030
>Last manjaro update fucked up badly my system
How bad?
Did you run -Syyu?

>>57029899
Do you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed? It has the nonfree parts needed for the kernel to properly use nonfree drivers. On the plus side, your wifi should work. On the down side, you have no freedom with those drivers or those parts of the kernel; there's potentially malware or spyware involved, and you're ultimately beholden to the owner/maintainer of those drivers and blobs.

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Any way to use KDE's file picker in Firefox? No matter what I do it always uses the crappy, default, file pickers without thumbnail view from GTK and QT.

It's integrated in Chromium and all Chroem-based browsers, just not in Firefox.

Also, I'm on Debian and all the weird fixes for Ubuntu don't work.

>>57030021
If I do

nmap -sP 192.168.2.1/24

It shows me the hostnames

Starting Nmap 7.30 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2016-10-11 18:45 WEST
Nmap scan report for <hostname> (192.168.2.1)
Host is up (0.00062s latency).
Nmap scan report for <hostname> (192.168.2.97)
Host is up (0.00013s latency).
Nmap scan report for <hostname> (192.168.2.129)
Host is up (0.000066s latency).
Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 2.31 seconds

>>57030136
"beholden" was the wrong word, I guess "subject" or "prone" would be better words

So I meant:
>and you're ultimately subject/prone to the owner/maintainer of those drivers and blobs.*

>>57029553
Install arp-scan.

Then in the command line just issue $arp

>>57030081
Okay. I'll try that. Thanks anon.

>>57030191
It works but i cant see hostnames

>>57030102
Screen is just dark, cant't do anything.
Yes.

>>57030265
Just use arp -a then.

What are the basic tools needed to do pentesting on linux? I'd like to do it on my debian machine rather than installing or booting kali.

>>57030338
What's your manjaro version?DE?
What's your partition table?
Is there anything on the forums?

>>57030369
also I mean GNU/Linux
no need to interject

guys, you *have* to try nixos. Containers and system snapshots are a thing of the past!

>>57030030
>i blindly updated without reading the changelog pacman reports when it does updates
Your own fault.
>>57030338
>just dark
Boot a live usb and revert big changes?

Oh wait
manjingo
you dont understand any of that

>>57030388
Or i just wait for guixSD to hit a stable release.

Why are all distributions on gnu/fsf website really outdated ones? What's the (biggest) difference between the list on gnu/fsf site and top popular list on distrowatch?

About how long would it take for a first timer to install Gentoo on a Thinkpad x200 tablet? It's got a low voltage core2duo and 4gb of ram

>>57030564
>This page lists the GNU/Linux distributions that are entirely free as in freedom.

Mint, for example, isn't entirely free as in freedom because it has some non-free components.

>>57030628

How can i tell from distrowatch which version is free and completely non proprietary?

>>57029709

Look up what makes up a distribution.
Look up what desktop environments are.
Look up what Lubuntu and Kubuntu are.
Then you'll be able to answer your ridiculous question which gets asked all the time.

>>57030338
>>57030030

Arch doesn't have those problems. :)

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How do I get pic related in GNOME3? I'm on a shitty laptop so I need vertical space. I can't have a top bar AND menu bars in my app windows taking up space.

Also, for some reason the on-screen keyboard INSISTS on popping up when I use the touch screen on a terminal or text editor, regardless of whether it's turned off in Universal Access. How the fuck do I stop it?

>>57030580

Between 24 minutes and 213 hours.

>>57030537
I installed it for the first time and updated inmediatly after, I now how to recover my system faggot, I just didn't know manjaro was actually shit

>>57030729

>using a downstream distribution which brings nothing worthwhile to the table

Serves you right.

>>57030705
-_- I guess I should be more specific. Install would include web browser, xorg, openjdk and libreoffice, so a relatively complete desktop environment. Also I would probably use openbox so not too big of a wm

>>57030849

Between 45 minutes and 103 hours.

>>57030849
First time? A few nights, in my opinion.

>>57030827
Arch fag spotted

>>57030669
The only Linux distributions that are completely free are the ones in the FSF website. Then there is Debian which is completely free by default but easily allows you to install non-free components so the FSF doesn't consider it completely free. It's actually extremely hard to completely avoid non-free components because most hardware requires some proprietary blobs.

>>57030930
More information here: https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html

>>57030545
Same great idea.

Why is linux so shit at managing battery life?

I'm on Arch, installed powertop and some other stuff I can't remember as it's been a while since I installed Arch.

I can't get more than three hours on 100% and I'm on a T430 with a 9cell battery.

Shit

>>57031322
install TLP nigga. My battery life went from 4 hours to 7 hours on my thinkpad yoga. 7 hours was roughly the battery life I had on windows.

>>57031322
https://github.com/rickysarraf/laptop-mode-tools
https://github.com/linrunner/TLP

>>57031322
>>57031507
>>57031526
this, tlp and laptop mode tools are gold
HOWEVER, if you have an HDD check the spin down time, that might wear faster the disk if set too low

I want to create a timer that runs multiple services hourly.
I got this far:
test.timer

[Unit]
Description=test

[Timer]
OnBootSec=15min
OnUnitActiveSec=1h
Unit=timer-hourly.target

[Install]
WantedBy=basic.target

test1.target

[Unit]
Description=Test1

[Service]
Type=simple
ExecStart=<snip>

[Install]
WantedBy=test.target

What am I doing wrong?

>>57031584
https://www.certdepot.net/rhel7-use-systemd-timers/

>>57031507
>>57031526
Thanks a lot, I already had laptop mode tools but will look into TLP.

>>57031561
I actually have an SSD and a HDD on the caddy bay.

>>57031691
You can't use both at the same time because they conflict with each other but TLP is better imo.

I want to make the meme real and ask a random grill about linux.

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>>57029042
he sold a gnu stuffed toy with 60 euro bid at the end, starting with a 25 euro price.

this was the typical RMS "free software" lecture you can find on youtube
is there some video of him talking about technical things ? i want to see the man who rote gcc, not this.

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>>57032233
>is there some video of him talking about technical things ?
I don't think he makes any talks or articles about "technical things" that aren't free software-related because his life is devoted to freedom and spreading knowledge/awareness about it. He's a prolific programmer for making and contributing to so many GNU programs (as well as some of the things he made before GNU), but he hasn't done any serious programming for at least 8 years.

Source from this page: https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
>My favorite programming languages are Lisp and C. However, since around 1992 I have worked mainly on free software activism, which means I am too busy to do much programming. Around 2008 I stopped doing programming projects. As a result, I have not had time or occasion to learn newer languages such as Perl, Python, PHP or Ruby.

I think if you wanna know more about him beyond stance on freedom, look into his website for the shit that isn't about free software or politics. But it is far and few between.

>>57032494
someone pls explain why webms aren't allowed to have sound on most boards

i just installed linux lite 2.8
did i make a bad choice?
is it good?

>>57032620
>no using linux zero
it's just like you enjoy bloat

>>57032562
Well apparently they can barely host the site as it is, so I think there's just not enough money to afford sound on all boards without some kind of change elsewhere.

>>57032652
then i installed the vista of the linux?
what is the xp of the linux?

>>57031738
This is all you need imo.
powertop.service

[Unit]
Description=Powertop tunings

[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/powertop --auto-tune

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

>>57032685
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>57032698
give up, we already told him years ago
he just enjoys being called a faggot allday

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>>57032652
well i did just download this.
should i slap it on my dell dimension e510?

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Dualbooting Windows 8.1 & Arch Linux.
Will windows update fuck up my partition table or grub? I know you can't install windows after linux so just curious. Since it's a college laptop, bash on windows would be nice for work.

>>57032756
>winrar
lel

>>57032770
>Arch Linux
Are you stupid?

>>57032806
Yes, but how about you answer the question instead?

>>57032770
>arch
>weeabo
>win 8.1
>bash on windows
D A N K

>>57032770
is this bait?

>>57032770
windows updates as well as force restarting/shutting down have fucked my grub up many times in the past leaving both operating systems un-bootable

>>57032754
If someone wants to belittle themselves by repeating the same inane shit all it does is affirm how much of a faggot they are. The posters that spam this shit are mentally ill and I feel sorry for them.

>>57032867
fuck off faggot, topic is gnu/linux not your clown face

>>57032828
>>57032852

Windows 10’s Anniversary Update offers a big new feature for developers: A full, Ubuntu-based Bash shell that can run Linux software directly on Windows. 

>windows update tool

>>57032867
>asks for trouble
>wonders why there's trouble
can't fix stupid

>>57032918
You are imagining trouble, there isn't any.

Hey /fgglt/s

I was thinking, support for GCN 1.0 cards on AMDGPU drivers is coming soon with kernel 4.9.

I'm using ubanto right now. 16.04. Can I just upgrade to that kernel when it comes out and enjoy that shit or is there something else I should know about?

>>57032969
Upgrade your ucode and Xorg drivers as well.

>>57032966
You could just stop using a tripcode and people would stop call you a faggot, but you don't, which makes you the source of trouble and thread derails.

>>57033024
All of your arguments aren't real problems.
Do you think this is reddit? People here will call you a faggot and derail threads period, my tripcode doesn't do that.

>>57033049
The post you just replied to just disproved that last statement.

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Is FreeBSD really more stable than any Linux distro?

(I know its not technically Linux)

>>57032994
Aight. I'll take that in account, I really want to try those motherfucking drivers

>>57030881
Ugh, alright. I'm still on the fence about it but I feel like it's one of those things you gotta do in life

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What's a good distro that has up-to-date packages and doesn't use systemd?

>>57033156
Use google-chrome or firefox-bin libreoffice-bin.

That alone should cut 10 hours of compile time easy.

>>57033194
You could just use Gentoo.

>>57033235
I don't like the idea of compiling all of the packages to install them

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why does hyperv always hate me ;_;

I know unity is not the most customizable desktop out there, but is there any place with themes for it?

>>57030729
LITERALLY every thread this year and the year before it, people have told you why it is shit, beyond it being a meme.
Just install arch

>>57033122
>(I know its not technically Linux)
so what post that cuckware here?

>>57033049
Why do you keep using a tripcode when it inevitably derails the thread and pisses people off constantly?

>All of your arguments aren't real problems.
Yeah, you and the posts you cause are a problem, including this very post.

>People here will call you a faggot and derail threads period, my tripcode doesn't do that.
Except that your tripcode constantly does that, and threads without you in them don't have this discussion (that we're having right now) in them. At least when the thread is derailed by trite Arch vs Debian shit and the like, it's related to GNU/Linux.

>>57033240
You could install Arch with OpenRC, but I still think you should go with Gentoo.

Compiling packages only takes long for certain ones, like libreoffice and firefox and other default programs you'd install right after ejecting the livecd. After you've already installed Gentoo and whatever basic programs you want (optimally at the same time), then whatever packages you need to install will likely be quick installs.

>>57033240
>uses precompiled binaries
>thinks he can get up to date packages
HA! good one anon

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Hi guys, I've been searching for an hour multiple issues but I couldn't find anything, so I'm asking here.

I just get a fresh samba install on Void but it can't start. It says pic related but I think I'm not understanding something.

Also, on a side note, I deleted some services from /run/runit and after rebooting they came up again. What I'm not understanding?

>>57033344
>what am I not understanding
that void is new, and not ready for primetime so you shouldn't be using it if you don't know what you're doing.

>>57033375
I kinda now. I mean, I think I have basic understanding of it, as I always messed up with it. But I don't know if I'm missing some basic shit.

Could be only because it is so cutting-edge?

>>57023348
Red Hat Enterprise. Only shitty high schools with niggers use ubuntu.

>>57033391
my guess would be, because of the way void handles installing packages, you probably have unmet dependencies you're unaware of

>>57023348
the servers are ubuntu i think.

no year of the desktop linux tho, it's mostly a byod for that.

>>57033418
Then should I check older versions?

Also, can someone try to help me with this?
> I deleted some services from /run/runit and after rebooting they came up again.

Hi, i'm a beginner user, is linux mint a good distro for start?

>>57033495
Also new, I read on babbies first linux about the mint security issue... does that also apply to mate?
How fast or optimized are beginner linux distros compared to something like win7?

How do I into linux?

>>57033495
Xubuntu. Go look at some screenshots of Mate, Gnome 3 , Unity, xfce, etc. Get an idea of what looks good. I prefer xfce, Debian or Xubuntu.

>>57033599
install gentoo

>>57033495
Mint is a horrible hack we call 'Frankendebian', it also has serious security problems. Beginners usually are best off with Ubuntu.

>>57033678
>ubuntu
not sure if a distro made by microsoft friends who brought the first spyware into loonix is a better choice then broken mint insecurity

both are trash, we srsly need to find something better we can recommend to beginners

>>57033713
>brought the first spyware into loonix
Stop giving them credit for things they don't deserve

>>57033713
Good enough for newcomers. These people come straight outta 100% botnet... Most people also switch on their own after they feel save enough to a different distro.

>>57033678
>>57033638
Cool, i tried the Ubuntu long time ago and i dont liked it.
Now i have an external 40GB HDD for learn some distro with mint on it.

I should change it with Debian or Ubuntu?

>>57033759
Which distribution included spyware before Ubuntu Unity?

>>57033823
Redstar OS

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>>57033678
I have to disagree, installing Gentoo is clearly the easiest route for linux noobs

>>57033823
>spyware

>>57033862
>Unless you have opted out, we will also send your keystrokes as a search term to productsearch.ubuntu.com and selected third parties so that we may complement your search results with online search results from such third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon. Canonical and these selected third parties will collect your search terms and use them to provide you with search results while using Ubuntu.
at least it's now opt-in

>>57033784
Go buy a pack of recordable DVD's and download "live iso images". Just pick out a few distros that look interesting, burn to dvd and reboot computer. You get to preview it without installing. Debian 8 Jessie is good. Xubuntu might be a little friendlier. Just google something like "xubuntu live cd with xfce". And it will get you what you need. Installation can be done if you like whatever version. I prefer this method instead of installing something I end up not liking.

>>57033909
>Anon
What's the point with this shit faggot?

>>57033918
IDK. Bored I guess. Think I'll go take a nap.

GNU/Thread: >>57033924

I'm running Lubuntu 16.04 with a Radeon R9 390. How do I fix screen tearing? Finding something related to xorg.conf and xrandr but it gets too complicated from there. Are there any gui frontends for something like this? This seems like something that should be as simple as checking a box but the default open source drivers provide nothing.

>>57023348
Gentoo. They dualboot with windows but that's used very rarely for windows only software like vhdl (i think).

>>57033909
Oh, ty for this "hack" but i really can do this with an usb pen.
How to try some distro is not a problem, i want to know if there is a "recommended distro" for the all day use.

The fatc is: I have to use posgresqul with the terminal for university and i want to take the opportunity for pass on linux and learn to use it.

>>57033965
Try compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc

>>57033638
>stuck with linux lite because winrar gives me error messages when i put debian/arch on a cd with win'8'
>get a no os error when i load the comp that linux is on when i try to boot up when usb
>try to load os-uninstaller from the linux tower and i need to put it on a cd but i go to user>share>apps and just see the shortcut to it

only way out now is find the path to the os-uninstaller and put it on usb then put usb in the win'8' tower then transfer from usb to cd and boot it on the linux tower.

fucking botnet! let me escape and enjoy freedom!

>>57033599
accidentled

Is Kali special at all or can I just install Kali repo and tools on Fedora and have the same experience?

>>57034526
Kali's special in the sense that it makes you look like a script kiddie

>>57033965
is it LXDE or LXQT?

Use compton or compiz if LXDE, use kwin if LXQT imo.

>>57033965
also, LDXE and LXQT really isn't made for high performance graphics if you didn't notice. if you use KDE, unity, or GNOME, you should get tear-free rendering out of the box. They're the "just werks" desktop environments. You can also try the wayland flavors of those DEs, or enlightmenment 17. Wayland doesn't have screen tearing.