/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>56937157
>had potential to save a few bucks
Mind elaborating? Trying to keep it as cheap as possible because I'm a poorfag.

>>56936755
>>56937035
Serious question. I want to buy this and send back the old PSU right when it gets here. They'll let me do that right? As long as I don't open the box there won't be any issue right?

Daily deal a best:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119
60$ seasonic gold 550w semimod

Reminder to buy it while you still can

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I've never used more than 4 GB of my 8 GB of RAM without using VMs. Sure RAM is cheap but at what point do you think 16 GB is a must?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pXx4pb

How much can I OC the ram and the CPU?

8 gb or 16 gb of ram for 1080p 60fps gaming? I'm talking game running + discord + browser at the same time

>>56937448
3 of my 7 games use over 8GB

How long till terabyte SSDs are ~$80? I'd guess 4 years.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2nNfd6
or this
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RWKyWX
This is for the backbone of my network, splitting my 10GbE net into my 1GbE subnets.

>>56937518
They're under $300 now and two 500GB can be found for $160
And prices on 2.5" are slowly going down since memespeed hard drives are popular
Not long i would guess

>>56937498
8GB is enough right now but you might have to upgrade in few years. 16GB is futureproof for almost a decade.

>>56937518
I'd guess 3-4 years. SSD prices have dropped so low that people are considering them as storage drives. They'll keep gaining popularity and mechanical drives are slowly falling to niche market status.

>>56937518
Probably less. With ssds becoming more common and prebuilts having them, prices are sure to go down in the ssds that go into 2.5in cages while the ones that can snap right into the mobo will be more sought after since they offer faster speeds and way less space needed.

>>56937498
A few new games eat up a shit ton of ram, like Deus ex. If it's Csgo or similar 8gb is fine.

>>56937592
>>56937621

Ram is cheap enough, looks like I might as well spend the extra $30 and not worry about it

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>>56937363
>>56937249
Fuck it, I'm gonna go for it.

>>56937498
16gb for multitasking, 8GB if you're just running the game.

>>56937498
https://youtu.be/ytl2IUHU6pI

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Do I do it lads?

Would a Supernova 550 be ok for a single 1070 and an i5 6600k? I heard it workd as long as i don't go overboard with the overclock

>>56937941
1070+6600k is 250W, dude.

>>56931961
Similar stuff happened to my old mobo, I did all the shenanigans and couldn't find a fix for it.

>reseat ram
>reseat heatsink
>reseat cpu
>reseat psu
>reseat gpu
>reseat ssd
>reseat connections for all
>remove mobo from case and test it outside
>remove all ram/except for one and test it
>replace ram from another system to test it
>replace psu from another system to test it
In the end, I decided to call it dead and sell the whole system for parts. No post, cpu fan/case fan/gpu cards light up for half a second and then shuts down. The led light on mobo stays on.

Good luck finding your fix

>>56937938
>mini itx
>windowed atx case
That'll look ugly as hell. But otherwise it looks like a decent build.

>>56938029
Hey man can't be a chooser with sales on NZXT products

>>56937969
Sorry. It's just i often see builds with just that and having 750w psus.

>>56938069
what the fuck GPU has copper heatsinks like that?

>>56938050
You can get the case without a window.

>>56938063
They're dum. i5 6600k at OC would probably consume about 100w. 1070 does 1070 OC probably does about 200w. When both are OC and on 100% load, that would probably be about 300w + extra pereperals like mouse/keyboard/ssd/hdd would probably consume additional 100w 550w is fine. Easily. Your normal system usage would probably be within 250w on general gaming and on browsing/idling under 50-100w.

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>>56938107
I'd rather spend the 5$ for it to not look like hot enameled garbage

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>>56938081
If you want to know it's Gigabyte HD 7850

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Decide to wait the monitor memes out and see if they drop in price before the end of the year, r8

Anyone have experience with refurbished shit from newegg? I'd never touch a refurbished component unless it's something like a case, but anyone have bad experiences?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pWCfd6

First build, budget intended.
Its costs $100 more in my country, what do you guys think?

I will be playing mainly on 1080p or lower, I don't care if I have to turn down some settings to run stable 60 fps with every game I throw at it.

>>56938312
>2016
>a fucking 470

Lmao just get a 1060

>>56938334
Unless you're spending enough money to get at least a 1070, there's no point buying Nvidia.

How long does superbiiz sales team usually take to respond?

>>56938367
>1060 is worse in any way shape or form than a fucking 470 or 480
t. uneducated faggot

Stop talking. Fools should be lesser seen than heard and you're doing both right now.

>>56938334
I just checked the store and I found a 1060 6gb from Gigabyte and it costs $20 more than the 470, going for the 1060 instead.

>>56938385
t. Nvidiashill

>>56938420
Thanks

here's a hint, shills like >>56938367 actively give bad advice.

>>56938429
I bet you're the same stupid motherfucker who unironically said "you're wasting your money" to anons asking about skylake CPUs.

>>56938436
Stop projecting and fellate a shotgun, retard. The 3GB 1060 is pretty much the worst GPU you could buy short of a 970.

>>56938454
>the 3gb version

Good job tech illiterate, there's a 6gb version.

Now I know you're either trolling or just this stupid.

>>56938312
Reminder, Jet.com has TRIPLE15, SHOP10 (>$300), SHOP15 coupons. Effectively giving you about 15% discount or $30 discount on shits.


https://jet.com/product/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-RX-480-100406NT4GOCL-4GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-30-x16-/758dadb8e5d541da8c80e19734c8bcb4

For example, $200 Nitro+ RX 480 4GB, $220 1060 6GB, $230 RX 480 8GB.

This would include CPU, mobos, etc as well.

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>>56938236
>sunglasses

>>56938468
>Good job tech illiterate, there's a 6gb version.

I guess you're the illiterate one, because I never said otherwise. Seriously, just kill yourself.

>>56938490
>>56938454
>>56938429
>>56938367
Looks like I ran into an actual shill.

If its only 1080p, 3GB is seriously fine. I can get 1060 3GB for $150 or 6GB version for $220. I'd choose 3GB everytime, except when I have money to throw.

>>56938499
Looked into the mirror?

>>56938518
>have a rage fit over 1060 outperforming your junk 470
>abloo bloo bloo you are telling him to buy the 3gb version!!!
>it's actually the 6gb
>you backpedal instantly, claiming you didn't say or insinuate any of that


Try killing yourself.
>>56938490
>>56938454
>>56938429
>>56938367
Look at this fucking shill and laugh.

>>56938063
6700k and 970 paired with an 850W psu. Yeah I went overboard when I got my parts

>nvidorts call amd fans shills
>ayyymd fags call nvidorts shill
Wew.

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>>56938573
>get btfo
>pretend you're another person

>>56938573
Business as usual. People need to look past fanboyism but given the childishness of the arguments, that wont be happening for a while.

>>56938470
It is a shame I don't live in the US tho.
Why I even bother living at all?

>>56938557
The 3GB 1060 is a 470 competitor. The 6GB 1060 is a 480 competitor. If he wasn't looking into getting a 480, he's probably not going to get 6GB 1060 either. Now please off yourself, retard.

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>>56938594
>being a fanboy

>>56938612
>it's not a competitor it's just the same price range and outperforms it my factors

Yeah, stop giving people advice, you don't know what you're talking about, or you're an honest to god AMD shill.

>>56938615
>being a faggot

>>56938594
>everyone who isn't an Nvidiot must be a samefag

Lol faggot.

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Epic shit guys, you both have me laughing as heck right now

>>56938623
>$80 more expensive is the same price range

Lolfaggot.

>>56938666
>>56938634
>and AMDshill keeps going

Enjoy your bottlenecks cunt

>>56938679
>Nvidia shill keeps lying

It's a wonder you didn't recommend 1080.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/yC9spb
Price breakdown by merchant:
Is this the best I can get for this price range? I don't really have a budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BPd3wV

I tried this in the last thread, but didn't get much feedback. I'm trying to be conservative for the time being, but I also need a new PC that will last a while after my old one went out on me.

I don't plan on overclocking too much and wanted to save the $50+ between the i5 6600 and the i5 6600K + CPU fan.

How much can I OC a 6700k with a cryorig C7?

The 6700k is rated 91tdp
And the C7 is like 100tdp

How much room do I have?

>>56938758
The Intel coolers are shit and become really noisy within a year.

I'd get an aftermarket cooler no matter what.

Is liquid cooling just a meme or, despite double the price, actually a decent alternative to air cooling?

>>56938922
It's a meme. High end air coolers (like noctua and be quiet!) Give you the same temps (and sometimes better) than AIOs

>>56937130
The compact versions of the 1070 are cheaper than the bigger versions. Why is this? Do they run slower? Are they louder?

>>56938758
Nice build overall.
For the OS I recommend you to watch this vid.
https://youtu.be/7h4UThO428I

>>56938922
Liquid cooling should only be considered if
>case has poor airflow and a tendency to heat-trap (poor airflow does not mean small airflow, you can have 7 fans in your case and still have poor airflow)
>you have a CPU that you're overclocking and would like to push it further beyond its thermal limits, but don't want to shell out for a custom loop
>you're a cuck with more money than sense
I have an AIO for a 88W TDP CPU because it keeps my under-volted i7-4790K to a nice cool 50 degrees at 90$ load. Doing the same with a giant air cooler would have been cheaper, but slightly noisier since my fans and pumps are on their quietest settings. A comparable air cooler would have been spooling up to noisemaking rpms at that point.

>>56938763
Not much

>>56938758
Personally I'd get a cooler for the 6600 or drop to the 6500. The 6600 probably won't stay at its boost for long at all.

>>56938713
Unless you really don't give a shit, don't buy the 1080 on principle. Horrible price/perf. Either wait for the 1080Ti (Jan) or get a 1070

>>56938236
Looks good, get a 240GB SSD. 120GB is cramped. Also that G1 470 is one of the lowest clocked factory OC'd 470s, so be prepared to OC manually. You should be able to get it to 1320 or so.

>>56938236
>aviators
>non-ironically

>>56938922
IMO good for mini-ITX builds because you can easily radiate / blow the heat directly out of your case.

>>56939021
>don't buy the 1080 on principle
Poorfags said this about the 980.

[spoiler]Any downside to using Microsoft Toolkit for Windows?[/spoiler]

>>56938933
>High end air coolers (like noctua and be quiet!) Give you the same temps (and sometimes better) than AIOs
Depends on the heat load. I can tell you for a fact that air coolers start losing the heat dissipation race with an overclocked Broadwell-E or Haswell-E when you're loading the CPU to its thermal limit point. Water-cooling's inherent advantage over current air coolers is that they can transfer far more heat throughout a much large cooling surface area with a much more effective heat-transfer material.
HOWEVER, you only ever benefit from that when your CPU's TDP starts reaching into the triple digits constantly. If you have a Broadwell-E i7 that's overclocked to 4.4GHz and use it at a near 100% CPU load for extended periods of time, you're better off with an AIO/custom water loop since even the beefiest air cooler will start creeping up in temperature as the inside of your case starts warming up and the limited cooling surface area starts to get saturated by heat.
A 140 dual-fan six+ heatpipe tower cooler is roughly equivalent to a 240mm AIO, but once you load on the temperature, the AIO will be able to keep things cooler for a lot longer.

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>>56938703
>>56938679
>>56938666
>>56938634
>>56938623
>>56938615
>>56938612
>>56938594
>>56938573
>>56938557
>>56938508
>>56938499
>>56938490
>>56938468
>>56938454
>>56938436
>>56938429
>>56938420
>>56938334
Just post benchmarks, faggots.

If you're comparing reference to reference, the 3GB 1060 might be slightly better. But if you're comparing factory OC to factory OC, the RX 470 4GB is clearly better.

Also the 470 generally BTFOs the 3.5 meme

>>56938713
SSD is too much for 500 GB. You can get I think 500GB for < $100 from other vendors. Using SHOP10 coupon on Jet.com, you can get the same GPU for $616.

Basically try the coupons and you could put a lot more in. If you reach coupon limit on your account, create a second account and try on other stuff.

>>56938758
As per above, try looking through Jet.com and use coupon SHOP15($30)/TRIPLE15($30 limit)/SHOP10 ($50 limit)

Make new accounts if you need more uses.

>>56938763
I wouldn't trust it, the margin is too low. Go for a 125w or 150w cooler or more.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/6

Look at the bottom. It runs 110w on standard OCCT load test.

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>>56939072
>he bought a 980
Should have just fallen for the 3.5 meme, you would have wasted less money.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2gWVFd
I have a friend who's ultra poorfag mode, but needs a decent computer for photoshop so he can make a few commission bucks. I managed to snag a super old case for free that takes micro atx motherboards.
I have an AMD FX 8350 and a Gtx 960-4gb that I'm willing to sell to him used, as well as a corsiar CX 600w psu. The gpu, I think, will fit.

How is this list looking? I'm worried by the motherboard but it's the only one on the market in mATX form factor.
Also how is the pricing for the parts? Am I lowballing myself? I just looked up the parts current (new) retail value and charged 60% of it, since they're only 1 year old parts.

>>56939160
>he bought a 980
Nope, 980 Ti.

>>56939160
why is a gtx 960 beating a gtx 780ti? vram? Or is the gimping meme real?

>>56939160
>a 380X is beating a 780 Ti
Holy shit Nvidia
Kepler BTFO

>>56939084
http://www.babeltechreviews.com/evga-gtx-1060-3gb-vs-red-devil-rx-470/5/

1060 3GB wins in most case scenario aftermarket vs aftermarket vs 470 Devil.

OC ability is limited in 470 and 480 imo to about 1350 Mhz for average and 1400 Mhz on very lucky rare few. Factor of about 10-15%.

Meanwhile, the 1060 can OC up to 1800 Mhz from 1500 Mhz and boost of about 2000 mhz. Factor of about 20% easily.

DX11 = 1060 3G + 15-20%
DX12 = RX470 + 10%

Average

Amazon warehouse has 980 ti for <$300 BTW.

If anyone wants to cheap out and get a decent deal.

I don't really know which GPU to chose for my situation. I'm getting a new PC and i have 1080p@60Hz monitors. I might get a 1080p@14Hz or 1440p@144Hz monitor next year, but i'd say it's 20% pro and 80% contra getting a new monitor.
I don't play games THAT often, usually on weekends and games like WoWS, LoL, CSGO, BF1 (will be), Skyrim, Total War. I'm currently leaning towards the 1070 because the price/performance, possibility to get a better monitor and the future proofing meme.
If i decide to NOT buy a 1440p monitor, a 1060 or RX480 should be sufficient for let's say 3 years, otherwise i should stick with the 1070, am i right with this assumption?

>>56939300
Yep.

>CSGO/LoL/WoW/BF1

You probably want higher refresh rates and fps to reduce input lag while playing competitively. If its just casual, then IGNORE ME.

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>>56939189
Nothing wrong with that. 980Ti was a good card and overclocker, but the 980 was the fool's card, as is the 1080. If you want a high performance card, wait for the cut down Titan.

>>56939222
To be fair the game hates old cards in general. Look at the 7970 / 280x. Often performance gets patched. Too bad bench sites don't redo their tests a month after the games' launches.

>>56939276
Your line of reasoning is irrelevant because the advantage the 1060 has in older DX11 games is nullified by the fact that either card (470 or 1060) has more than enough power to keep a locked 60FPS at Ultra or very close to it.

3GB 1060 is the worse card looking forward, which is what matters. Even in a CPU heavy DX11 game the Polaris cards hold their own.

I have an FX8350 and I'm getting a 1070 8gb tomorrow, I've read there is bottleneck because of my CPU, but I don't want to replace mobo+ram+cpu because poor, how noticeable will the bottleneck be? Or am I just a faggot?

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>whe you get the things you really needed to tie your build together all on sale

>>56939392
It would be noticeable. Games dependent on CPU intensive would give you low frames. In most case scenarios, you'd lose 10-20% average. Compared to an i3/i5 from intel.

>>56937130
prior experience with strings makes me extremely nervous about this rig...

>>56939392
depends on the game. World of warcraft, I'm pretty sure, uses only 2 CPU's, effectively making your chip a 4ghz Athlon. I have the same chip and I get some stutter when there's a ton of enemies on screen. More modern games actually can utilize all 8 cores, GTAV and Witcher 3 come to mind. You won't see much of a bother in those. I say just plug in your 1070, test it out, if you aren't happy, save up a bit and get a 6600k.

>>56939392
You'll be fine if you're looking for 60FPS. And DX12 games or Vulkan games will lighten the load on your CPU. (But I told you something like that yesterday.)

Make sure your CPU can maintain its boost clocks under stress. (Monitor temps+clockspeed while stress testing with Prime95.) If you have the stock Wraith cooler you should be fine. Otherwise you may want to pick up the Hyper EVO 212.

>>56939328
WoWS = World of WarShips, pretty nice game. I'm really torn between those three cards, my ego tells me to get the 1070, my pocket book teels me to get the 1060 and my brain tells me to get none because games are wasted time.

Recently put this together for my cousin. It's already done, so be honest with me, how bad did I fuck up?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6tBk6X

Granted, I should've ran it by folks before committing, but still.

>>56939439
So nothing deal-breaking then. I want to swap over to intel, but cant afford to replace mobo+ram+cpu atm

>>56939472
Please kill yourself.

>>56939455
why 6600k over 6700?

>>56939488

Thanks Anon! Do you have a recommended method that involves minimal cleanup?

That said, how about some critique first?

>>56939456
thanks, just looking for more input. I already have a CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler on it, the stock fan was cancer

>>56939516
Everything you picked is fucking awful and it smells like babby's first component list

>>56939300
Get a cheap card now, like a 470 or 3GB 1060. When you actually buy that better monitor you can get a card to go with it, and by that time you'll probably be able to get a better card for the same money. Let's say you buy a nice monitor in two years. You'll be able to get an GTX 1170 or RX 590, either of which will have GTX 1080 performance and nice RAM (either HBM or GDDR5X), for your $400.

>>56939472
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6tBk6X
You fucked up pretty hard
>CPU is okay
>Motherboard is not
Nigga, why the fuck did you buy a $170 Z170 motherboard when a $50 H110 motherboard would have done you just fine
>DDR4-2400 memory
16GB is overkill, but you will not benefit from 2400MHz RAM over a 2133MHz one.
>WD Caviar Blue
That's pretty old by now and you could have gotten a faster 1TB drive for $2 less. It's called the Toshiba P300.
>R9 390
>not even on sale
An RX 480 is largely the same as the R9 390 and is almost $50 cheaper for the same 8GB buffer. You dun goofed again.
>EVGA Bronze PSU
It's shit.

>>56939478
Nothing deal-breaking, but you'd definitely want to see if you can upgrade the CPU/mobo in the future. Because right now, you might as well be running 1060 6GB + i5 6600k, as that would probably give similar enough performance to your 8350 + 1070.

Either Zen or the new 7000 series i5/i7 would give you what you need. If you can find it at decent price.

>>56939457
Get 1060 and be done with it. Pocket is your main concern. They go for about $220 for 6GB or about $160 for 3GB(1080p primarily).

If your current GPU is good enough (960/280/380X), then go with your brain and don't upgrade.

>>56939534

My cousin wanted it for gaming and FOREX. I'll agree with you, but only in the sense that I'm failing to see how an i5 is awful.

>>56939547

Thanks Anon. I rushed it, but he seems happy with the ability to ultimately run 6 monitors. This was from about two months ago.

>>56939556
I'll be looking into black friday sales for intel. I have am AM3+ mobo, so I'm gonna need new ram+mobo too. You think I should wait for the 7000 series? i've read good things about the i7 6700

>>56939472
6/10, depends on how recently you put that together. Should have gone 8GB 480 instead of 390 and gotten an SSD.

>>56939501
Probably single core performance potential. Personally I'm thinking the 4 core / 8 thread Zen chip (they're all unlocked) will be chip of the ages. Of course an unlocked Kaby Lake would be equivalent if not a little better. And then the 4 core / 8 thread 7nm CPU will be the chip to end all chips.

>>56939501
Do you render a lot of video? Do you do anything production related with your computer? if the answer is no, then paying more for an i7 is a waste of money. It gets like 3 fps better in games.
>>56939472
Jesus christ that's terrible. So much wasted money.

>>56939593
see first/second reply in >>56939136

Take advantage of coupons. You could save more than 100-200 dollars.

>>56939593
It's a shit build and you could have saved almost $120 for a decently-sized SSD to make the whole thing feel snappier. You better learn from your mistakes next time and not shut your eyes and ears over criticism. A 13-year old could have put together a better parts list than you did.

>>56939593
>but


Why did you even bother asking you useless faggot? I knew you'd have some mealy-mouth bullshit b-b-but he likes his piece of shit bottleneck rig response.

BEST QUIET CASE FANS? PRICE DOESNT MATTER. NO POO NOCTUA FANS PLEASE.

t.hanks

>>56939662
NOCTUA POO FANS

>>56939662
POO is love

>>56939606
Yes, definitely wait until Zen (AMD) and Kaby Lake (Intel) drop. Your 8350 will be fine / great til then.

>>56939591
>They go for about $220 for 6GB or about $160 for 3GB(1080p primarily).
Not that I see, m8. 3GB is $200 - $215, 6GB is >$250
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1060/

>>56939677
NO

>>56939662
>having a side panel window
LMAO

>>56939629
I'm looking to future proof too, I don't tend to upgrade very often (years) would the 6600k still be a good choice? I don't render video/do production stuff

>>56939688
Jet.com

Windforce OC 1060 3GB goes for $160. There are cheaper variants too.

>>56939686
I have a white In Win 303 case and those Pooctua fans gonna fuck my black/red/white aesthetics up.

>>56939691
HOW ABOUT THIS?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608044

>>56939725
Noctua goes well with white or black, but they also have black and grey fans.

>>56939543
I doubt the 1060 3G or RX470 will be able to max out most of the games, maybe RX480 or 1060 6G.

>>56939591
I can spend 1400€ max. but i'd like to keep it as cheap as possible without losing quality party, tough task, but that's what i aim for.
>If your current GPU is good enough
How do you like my GTX460 with 768MB VRAM senpai desu? I really need an upgrade after 6 years.

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>>56939736
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THOSE GODDAMN AUSTRIANS THINKING WHEN PICKING THE COLOR SCHEME FOR THIS FAN? "GODDAMN WE GONNA GIVE OUR MAGNUS OPUS A FUCKING UGLY COLOR SCHEME BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO BE WORSE THEN HITLER". AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>56939784
Noctua color scheme is great.

>>56939784
>hitler wouldn't be the greatest hardware designer in ever

>>56939770
Hmm you're euroshit. I don't know what euro prices are or how their shop systems are.

But in US, you could get a used 980 ti for $280 right now on Amazon Warehouse.

Maybe you have something similar in Euroland?

>>56939721
No. Cheapest is $200 on Jet, like I said.
https://jet.com/search?term=1060%203gb
Don't give me your TRIPLE15 bullshit, doesn't mean the card sells for any less than $200.

>>56939770
>I doubt the 1060 3G or RX470 will be able to max out most of the games, maybe RX480 or 1060 6G.
There's about a 10-15% difference between 470 and 480. Same for the 1060 versions. Not enough to sneeze at.

Also playing at maximum / Ultra is for fags. You don't need 4x SMAA. Those settings cripple even high end cards.

>>56939840
>YOU CAN'T USE COUPON ITS CHEATING
>COUPONS DON'T COUNT
kek

>>56939805
I NEVER buy used hardware, but Amazon Marketplace really never came to my mind, that's the only place i trust for used hardware. Thanks.

>>56939840
I don't need every single setting on ultra hyper whatnot, but after 6years of GTX460 I'd like to enjoy some nice graphics again.

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>>56939869
>Getting a promotional discount related to a specific online store that applies to any item including competing graphics cards affects the price that of a particular item usually "goes for >>56939591" in any way
lmaoing @ ur lyfe

>>56939937
Feel free to not use coupons if you think they're wrong.

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>>56939972
Oh I do. Feel free to continue to be obtuse

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>it's a rebate discount doesnt count as a discount episode

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>>56940040
>yfw pricing structures

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>>56940119
>yfw trying to have a civil conversation with anyone except your mom

>>56940130
>tfw you'll never have a based mom who knows her shit about computer and rebukes me on what the best price/performance are in a coherent, logical and fact based argument

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>>56940155
>tfw no mom

>>56940174
Just write an AI waifu and have her be your replacement mom/gf/waifu.

>>56940203
>tfw no skills except business and exchange of money for goods

I'm basically a jew

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I just want to talk about assembling computers, /g/uys

>>56940230
Came to the wrong thread for that, this is shitpost general

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Is this a good build to play Overwatch on high settings and run Shadowplay?

Couldnt find a cheaper case and idk about the desktop

>>56940174
See you in the headlines.

>>56940307
I would honestly consider suicide if I had to look at that ugly as fuck currency symbol every day

also
>140 euro corsair case

You got meme'd.

>>56940307
>Is X build good enough to play Y game
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>Couldnt find a cheaper case
Because you didn't try you lazy faggot. Don't ever spend more on the fucking case than on your CPU man.. what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>56940307
Any type of recording or streaming I'd suggest at least an i5 if not i7.

Old desktop motherboard is broken I think. Should I get it diagnosed or just get a cheap motherboard and put the working parts in and pray its the mobo. Honestly I would rather it be a CPU problem and actually get a graphics card to pair with it. It's for my brother who plays shitloads of CSGO.

i3-4130
stock cooler
2x4gb DDR3-1600
b85m micro atx with
no gfx
1tb HDD
DVD Drive.
550W PSU
Mid tower Bitfenix Shinobi.

How would you would you upgrade this with a broken mobo? Also how would you upgrade it if it was the CPU?

>>56940307
Z170 motherboard, intend to overclock the i3 with proper bios update? Otherwise, H170 or B170 or another cheaper mobo with proper features you want. This build wont consume more than 400w. So downgrade the PSU and use that money to upgrade to i5 6400/6500? Even the weakest i5 would be better than i3 at overwatch by quite a margin due to multithreadedness. However if you simply care about 60fps, then by all means, i3 is "fine". But that extra money into i5 would go along way.


Case is super expensive. Dump that for something more manageable around 50-100 euro.

>>56940410
cheap 30-40 mobo.

>>56940410
Buy an H81 motherboard (or a B85 if you can find one on sale for cheaper) and wait for i7-4790 prices to drop below the $200 mark.

>>56940432
Stop giving people advice

>>56940432
>i7 dropping below 200
kek

Even the sandy bridge 2600k is around $170s.

>>56940451
And it should take Haswell as long to get to that point. There's no need for him to upgrade CPUs now, only when it starts to show its age.

>>56938950
Because who wants an ugly ITX half-size card?
But really it's just the cooling advantage, but considering cooling is less of an issue with this new gen of nvidia, it's probably more about looks now
It's harder to sell, so it's cheaper

>>56940410
If mobo, basically any LGA1150 socket and correct form factor (ATX or microATX or whatever) will work, provided your PSU has a correct mobo power connector, like 24-pin or 20-pin or whatever. Is a prebuilt? Prebuilts can have weird PSUs

If it's the CPU then any 1150 socket CPU will work.

>>56940451
When Zen drops i7 prices will plummet. 4 c / 8 t is supposed to be the minimum config.

>>56938950
lower OC ability and might throttle with higher temps.

Possibly lower clockspeed too.

>>56940509
>4 c / 8 t is supposed to be the minimum config.
SMT will be optional on the lower Summit Ridge SKUs, I can almost guarantee that.

>>56937938
> 1337$
Did you do that on purpose? Admit it.

Build looks pretty good for me, well rounded. Though i'd try to get a 144hz monitor.

>>56940514
There's zotac minis which outperform their standard size contemporaries, though

>>56940556
mnoitors are way too spendy for me for the cost of a fucking 6700k you get barely something passable in IPS 1440p, and don't even get me started on muh gsync memers with their 800 dollar 60hz monitors.

>>56940530
Personally I wonder about that as well, but I think that Intel's i5 line exists simply for artificial tier / pricing reasons, not because it naturally arose from common defects / yields. If that's the case, AMD may have no desire to set up the same structure.

>>56939710
if your use case is only gaming, then a 6600k will be fine for years, especially at 1440p resolution.
>>56939169
I also should ask, is it bad to run a non-reference style graphics card in a small case? We're going to run 2 120mm intake fans and a 120mm exhaust, but we have to use a low profile cpu cooler.

>>56940639
Once Stoney Ridge phases out, AMD will have nothing in the lower-end market. Raven Ridge will have SMT, but only 4-cores means that they can only go down to make the SKUs cheaper. They can either cut core count (for the Pentium-fighting chips) or SMT and leave the cores as is (for the i3s)

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9xyWX
Is this good for gaming?

>>56940740
AMD will no longer exist in ten years at the rate they've degenerated.

>>56939472
You could have gone with cheaper RAM, reduced it down to 8 GB of RAM if the games your cousin plays aren't too demanding, and speaking of demanding games, you could have gotten a cheaper graphics card.

Also, an SSD is way better than an HDD, would have made the computer boot, shut down, and open applications faster as well as reduce loading times and noise on your computer.

This could have been done way better, I have a similar build with the same CPU, but I went with a cheaper motherboard than you did, a Gigabyte one actually, in retrospect, I could have gotten an even cheaper motherboard but I wanted to Hackintosh so I know my build could've been a bit cheaper. Also, I didn't buy a graphics card because at the time I wasn't too interested in gaming.

It's alright, but at the price you paid, fuck, might as well had bought a Mac. Then you wouldn't have to put together a computer with a HDD. Of course, this is a joke.

>>56940741
honestly you have a really good price/performance ratio going on there. The SSD is probably a bit much for your budget range though. I'd get a 250ish GB SSD and a 1tb HDD. Game files are quite large nowadays, and a 500gb hard drive might feel a bit cramped.
Other than that, solid list.

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>>56940347
I did use that site since another anon recommended it and that's what I came up with. They literally don't sell cheap big ones on the shop I'm buying at (its a german retailer) but I'll look again

What else would u change?

>>56940409
Why's that?

>>56940415
Other than the case and i3 is it a good build or can I improve smth? the budget is ~1000€

>>56940792
I already have a 1 TB WD blue harddrive, in my current machine, but thanks for the input.

>>56940816
Enjoy your ps2-era load times with a 1200 dollar gaming rig

>>56940832
What, but the dude has an SSD in his part list. It sounds like he had a spare HDD laying around and put in his new build.

>>56940832
I don't really care about load times since I mainly play counterstrike. The only one that really annoys me is GTAO.

>>56940740
I wonder if AMD might just release powerful chips as low end and BTFO the entire market. Intel is running scared
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/226898-intel-fires-the-equivalent-of-1-2-amds-restructures-away-from-pc-mobile-business
Basically there's not going to be any huge jewish profit in the market since AMD is finally catching up again. So Intel's like fuck it, I'm out. Therefore AMD will drive the nail into the research coffin and we'll all be stuck at 7nm with new processors developed only for specialized tasks instead of a general workload.

Not like this death is AMD's fault. It would have happened anyway.

>>56940889
>all be stuck at 7nm
You mean "7"nm that's actually a 20nm

>>56940889
>intel is going to get out of the computing business

lmao

>amd will ever be good

lmao

>>56940914
also this
>wow look our 1nm wafer technology
>it's actually 50
>well our factory specs said so :^)

>>56940935
You think 5% performance/watt increase per year is bad? Try 1%

>>56941000
We've nearly hit the point where there's hardly any gains to be made in high-end computing without severe increases in production costs.

Couple tweaks from the other one

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2V3VFd

>>56941035
Exactly, which is why AMD's generic catch up CPUs are going to be good enough to drive prices down to rock bottom once the foundries' processes and wafer supply lines are mature. The bulk of wafers processed are still for 40nm IIRC (can't find the citation)

>>56941073
You can save $50 by getting a cheaper Mobo.

>>56941099
I don't have any faith in AMD to weather the harder times coming up.

>>56941073
It's fine, get 3000MHz RAM and an HGST HDD

where should my sister buy a pre built desktop? digital storm or something? she is incapable of assembling one and I can't build it for her since she lives in Canada. I see they have 6500/1060 combos for right around $1000 but I don't even know who else makes prebuilts

>>56939647

Unlike you, see these replies?

>>56940790
>>56939646
>>56939614

There were specifics given as opposed to 'it's shit'. Did you have a bad day or something? Part of the reason that I asked is that i5s are considered to be good as opposed to your blanket response.

Next time, either point out reasoning or never reply to me again.

To the three replies, I thank you all for your time.

>>56941164
I don't spoonfeed redditors who would be better off asking on /r/pc.

>>56941190

Let me get this straight:

>ask for advice
>get 'it's shit'
>user asks for a follow-up/reasoning
>I don't spoonfeed

The fuck is this? Why are you even here?

>>56941213
Yes, you're too stupid for me to bother giving advice to. Your current subhuman reaction to posts is indicative to me that i was correct in my assumption that a) you're a redditor b) you asked for no reason other to give excuses for your shitty decisions and c) no ability to realize you don't know what you're talking about. All in all, I was 100% correct in my assumption that a retard like yourself is unteachable, like a dog that bites even if it's been struck.

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>>56941213
Don't feed the trolls

>>56940799

i5 to just game. i7 to do everything else.

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>>56941164
Dawg, it's cool, we all make mistakes on early builds. For your sake, I hope your cousin actually plays games that require all that hardware.

Just don't bother to autistic posters. They just don't have enough hugs and fugs in their life.

Do people in this thread really know what they are talking about? Or are we all just one person arguing within ?

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>>56941306
>>56941262

Yeah, my mistake. I gotta be better than this. Thanks again for all of your help. He said something about gaming, forex and stocks or something.

Here, have 3D optimism.

>>56941317
>Do people in this thread really know what they are talking about?

No, they really don't. I'm amazed at some of the retarded shit people like >>56941306
animepedo say and excuse.

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>>56941344
Aww, do you need a hug Anon-kun?

>>56941358
Still giving absolutely fucked up "advice"? I'll be here to correct when you do.

Go to your containment threads on /b/.

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>>56941317
Currently 35 posters. So definitely a lot of infighting, but at least being anonymous means that people can easily change their opinions when they get BTFO. But on the other side of things there's a lot of parroted opinions and groupthink

>>56941358

To be perfectly honest, I'd rather just smell your feet. Shit, am I on the wrong board?

>>56941372
When you stop arguing like an autist, I'll take you seriously Anon-kun. Just chill, dawg.

>>56941394
This nigga gets it.

>>56941405
>When you stop arguing like an autist, I'll take you seriously Anon-kun. Just chill, dawg.

and when you come up with a single good build I'll get off your case.

>>56941416

Dude. Are you fat?

>>56941421
Abs. Yet another aspect of me which you wish you could conjure personally in any way except imagination.

>>56941432

C-Can I see.. . ??

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>>56941416
I'm the Karen poster, Anon-kun, I was one of the three posters who gave him perfectly sound advice. Just take a deep breath, dawg.

>>56941444
No.

>>56941451
Yeah, I know, I tell by your posting style.

Get a trip and it'll be easier to avoid seeing your worthless posts in the future.

>>56941463

If you have abs, why don't you show it? PLEASE.

Put my PC together today, on first boot it didn't post and the VGA debug led on motherboard lit up, should I be worried or is it normal?

Seems to work now, installing windows currently.

>>56941463
Aww, you know I can't do that, dawg. You're kinda cute, actually, getting so mad that you have to add "hurtful" words like worthless. It's so impotent and funny.

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>>56941519
Not him, but stop fucking posting. This is the build thread.

>people sperging this much about computers parts
No wonder most of you are fucking NEETs.

>>56941548
Kek, the guy stopped posting, so there goes my fun anyways.

>>56941160
>where should my sister buy a pre built desktop?
>>56941160
I'm not too familiar with the company but I know Puget Systems sells prebuilt desktops while still allowing you to have a certain amount of choice in what parts go into it. Granted the prices are a bit steep, but it's worth a shot. They ship to Canada as well.

>6500 / 1060 combo for $1000
sounds bad

>>56941591
People have jobs to do unlike you faggot

Is there any comprehensive benchmark site for CPU air coolers?
I kinda tempted by the NH-U14S, but it's expensive. Are there any non-brick 2kg coolers that are silent and do the same cooling for less?

>>56940889
>>56941035
Intel is working on alternatives to silicon wafers already
My guess is their research department has already hit the limit of performance/profit or are anticipating it

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Plugged in everything to my gigabyte ga-h110m-a Mobo and evea 500watt PSU but when I go to turn it on none of the fans turn on, only the case's power led illuminates, not sure if the Mobo has a power light. What am I doing wrong?

Can anyone spot the problem just from this pic? Of course this is weight the GPU, I've tried it with and without it

>>56941927
What CPU are you using and how much are you overclocking it?
If you're not sure or you're not at all, get the cheap reliable meme

>>56941995
It's for a new i5-6600K build, maybe 4.1-4.6GHz.

>>56942021
You don't need the best of the best cooler for a 6th-gen Intel CPU, cooling capability is directly related to how much metal the heatsink has so bigger is generally better, along with more copper heatpipes
I mean shit, just look at reviews, it's a big piece of metal with a fan, it's pretty hard to make objective comparisons without actually using them
I haven't overclocked my 6600k yet but my $20 hyper 212 evo keeps it below 50°C while stress testing for an hour, or while playing CPU-heavy games. 60° is apparently pretty warm according to the Internet but my temp program says the 6600k has a tj max of 100°

>>56942161
To clarify I have not seen it above 50°

>>56941917
No need to project, dawg.

>>56942021
Scythe Mugen 4 and Cooler Master Hyper 412S are decent coolers for OC if price is an issue.

>>56942177
>>56942021
A quick Google shows that tj max for 6600k is 105° and it will auto shut off at that point
So as long as you're not boiling water you're not gonna break your cpu

http://newgg.com/

well that was a nice accidental discovery

>>56942161
Stock clock or OC? Because i want to OC it eventually and forgive me but i seriously doubt the 212 EVO will keep an OC'd 6600K cool.

>>56942191
I want to keep the price reasonable, but i'm willing to pay for quality. It it means to pay a little more to get a non-brick silent cooler with great temps, then so be it.
I took the NH-U14S as max. i want to spend on the cooler and want to compare options against it.

>>56942234
Yeah.. but i don't really want my CPU to permanently run at 80-100°C. I guess everything below 60°C is reasonable. Silent coolers are also very important to me.
My current computer is running a stock Intel cooler and i skipped on the case fans, which equals a starting Boeing 737™.

>>56937130
This was an amazing thread

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>>56942298
Mine is stock like I said, but according to the Internet, with a hyper 212 you can OC it somewhere between a lot and all the way
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hyper+212+evo+6600k+overclock

>>56941987
I keep looking at it and I can't figure out the problem. Check and double check that all the front panel stuff is correctly in. Check, double, tripple, quadrouple check that your ATX 24-pin and cpu cables are plugged in.
I noticed you have only a 4-pin cpu power. Does your cpu require 8pin power?

>>56942264
>it's not a bunch of malware

lel

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HMMJnn

How does this build look? I'm going to wait till Black Friday to see about getting the parts on sale, but this is what I've decided on for now.

I'm not really sure which GTX 1070 to get, but the MSI one seems to be all right.

Also I all ready have the monitor, I just threw it on there.

>>56941987
unplug and replug, you're sure you got the cpu in correct?

>>56942516
>http://newgg.com/
The case, mobo, and power supply seem needlessly expensive. The rest is fine.

>>56942516
Get 3000 RAM, a cheaper case, mobo and smaller PSU. 850W is WAY to much.

>>56942545
>>56942569
Thanks. What case would you recommend? I just want something that keeps stuff cool. My current cheap case has shite airflow and the noise when the PC is under load is horrible. Also what wattage PSU could I go for? 550?

>>56942516
>1800 pounds
>for a 6600k build

jesus man
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KJBspb

Not sure if this belongs here, but what's the best bang for buck monitor? Preferably 1440p 144hz, 1080p would be fine too

>>56942545
>>56942569
>>56942623
How's this look then?

Also is the i7 worth it over the i5 if I'm just using it for games?

>>56942804
Forgot the link, like a plonker http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ccNXRG

>>56942616
>I just want something that keeps stuff cool
That will do your CPU cooler, any decent case will be good. Corsair R200/300, Fractal R5/S, CM N200/300/400, etc. etc. etc.
Depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.

>>56942804
Fuck no. For games only get the an i5.

>>56942824
Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with you. what do you want with that mobo...

>>56942824
>250€ Mobo
Why? Just get a 100€~ one.

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Im building a pc for 60fps/1080p gaming. Are the mobo and power supply ok?

>>56942765
1080p is absolutely the best cost-to-quality ratio. If you want higher than 1080p, AND above 60hz, then you're going to be paying, and you can't really avoid that.

>>56942824
speaking of resolution, what resolution are you playing at? You went from 6600k + 1070 to a 6700k + 1060. For gaming just stick with i5 at any resolution. For 1080p use gtx 1060, for 1440p use gtx 1070.

>>56942899
Switch 6600 to 6500 or go 6600k
Get 2133 DDR4 memory since the motherboard doesn't support 2400 MHz.

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>>56942463
I am just as stumped, I picked out the parts for this guy's build so I feel bad i cant get it working.

The CPU is a i5-6500, and it says it is a 4 thread cpu.

Retried the case connections, and again only get the case's power LED on, which means i must have done it right, right?

>>56942522

I told him to try re-setting the CPU on the mobo. If we cant figure it out i suggested he just get a different mobo, since it was a stupid idea for me to rec him a atx micro mobo when he picked an atx full case...

hey, I'm building my first gaming PC, just following the VR build on logical increments really.

it specifies Founder's Edition for the graphics card, does it actually matter which version I get? only differences I can see are the boost clock and core clock

http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487244

>>56942839
>>56942850
>>56942882
>>56942912

How's this looking then? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qVZgnn

>>56943094
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pz9h7h

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

>>56943175
If you were telling them to do an x99 + gtx 1080 SLI watercooling build that video would be more appropriate. Spending $100 extra for useless features on a mobo doesn't really constitute "dreams".

>>569430
What kind of ram are you using? Remove one of the ram sticks and see if anything changes.

>>56943315
YOU CAN ALWAYS UPGRADE

MOBO STAYS SAME

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>>56942949
Got it. Since i dont plan on overclocking, an i5 6500 should be enough.

I switched to another mobo that is easier to find where i live, is the build ok now?

>>56943019
What kind of Ram are you using, please post their specs.

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>>56937130
>Want to fall for the ultrawide meme
>My strix 390 handles 1080 great but probably would struggle with 3440 x 1440
>No more being sold for crossfire only used ones going for 300 dollarydoos

Fug. Vega when

>>56938470
Do read the reviews on the site.

It's a mixed bag from what I can tell.

>>56943354
Yep, everything looks good, just remember to replace the 6600 with the 6500 since pic still has 6600.

How much longer do dual cores have for gaming in your opinion?

1 core 6hz HT CPU when?

>>56943459
if they have hyperthreading they can trick a game that requires 4-core into booting. i3's are still acceptable. I wouldn't use a dual core without HT though.

>>56943459
They don't, their time ended two years ago anon. Unless you only play minesweeper.

>>56943354
Personally I find the fatality series to be a huge fucking meme and would advise to get an Asus or Gigabyte motherboard instead.

>>56943390
Surely you meant to say Volta anon :^)

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-ZT-P10800C-10P-Wraparound-Ultra-wide-PowerBoost/dp/B01FMF6DAS/ref=sr_1_10

would you buy this?

>>56943729
No. Do you not see the Amp! Edition RIGHT NEXT O IT for $30 less? Founders cards make no sense unless you specifically need one for a low air flow situation.

>>56943019
>it says it is a 4 thread cpu.
>thinks it has anything to do with the power requirement
Your build is not POSTing, so clearly something in the build is not working. Double-check all of the headers to make sure they're seated properly (4-pin CPU, 24-pin ATX, CPU fan pins, etc), then check the RAM to see if they're seated properly. Remove the SATA cable for the DVD player and the power connector for it as well. Try to get it to POST by reducing the chances of fault.
Also, remove the board from the case and see if it posts there. Something tells me your build has either shorted on the case, your RAM is DOA, or one of your power cables isn't properly connected. Worst of all if if you somehow fucked up the CPU installation.

>>56941987
>>56943019
Did you use standoffs between the mobo and case?
Plug in the mobo's speaker and all the pins, try reversing the power and reset pins or double checking that they're plugged in correctly.
Get rid of one stick of RAM. When you're troubleshooting always try to isolate.

Post to let us know you haven't committed sudoku

>>56943075
Logicalincrements has some retarded suggestions. You almost never want a reference card (like the FE). Here's a good VR build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gNdFZ8

>>56943354
If you aren't going to multiGPU just get a B150 mobo
Get a 240GB SSD for OS + games

>>56943390
Could get 2560 x 1080 to match your 390

>>56943468
>1 core 6hz HT CPU when?
>6hz
m8

>>56943650
Why do you think the fatality series is bad? is it overpriced?

What mobo do you recommend for the same price or less?

I live in a shit place so many pc parts are unavailable to me.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Graphite-Compact-Mid-Tower-Computer/dp/B00EUY58OA/ref=gbps_tit_s-3_3422_b0d59bf5


>tfw lightning sale
>only have 20$ in my account

>>56943781
>Why do you think the fatality series is bad? is it overpriced?
It's the same as the Extreme4/6 series, but with a higher pricetag and more gaymer marketing gimmicks.

>>56943681
>Volta
I'd like to keep my house anon, not set it ablaze

where do I go to find out which power supplies are made by who and which builders are reliable or not? Why not just buy a seasonic power supply instead of someone who rebuilds them with their brand?

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>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rtMJnn

I'm ready to make the jump to Skylake/ Pascal. My AMD motherboard died, so I'm selling the good cpu and my current graphics card on Craigslist.
-Is this a good way to go? I only game at 1080p, but I want the cpu to be powerful in case I decide to go to 1440p later down the road.
-The ugly motherboard is because my case is not windowed, which is also why I have the ugly non-modular power supply.
-Also, can I just buy 2133mhz ram and overclock it? Is it worth the $6-7 of savings vs having it just run fast out of the box?

>>56944955
You can get 3000mhz ram for like $5 more. Also, the Cryorg H7 is the new 212 Evo.

>>56944979
Parts marked zero cost are sitting on my desk with the dead motherboard.

>>56944955
Even if you decide to switch to 1440p later, the 6600K isn't really necessary. You'd do just fine with the 6500.

So I'll be building a rig next summer. I want this to be a no compromises build, with focus on overclocking. I'm not willing to do a full loop, but definitely want to liquid cool the cpu.

I'm thinking either the i5-7600k or the i7-7700k, and either a GTX 1080 or if Vega turns out to be good (fingers crossed but let's be real, nobody on this board expects them to outdo the 1080) then whatever they offer (Fury 2, 490 probably will be as good as a 1070 so not that). If Zen actually has decent or better thermals and single core performance then I might go with AMD, but I don't have my hopes up for that.

For someone who does some AutoCAD, Creo, and then mostly gaming, do you think the 7700k would be worth it? (Assuming the kaby lake processors are just like skylake but with improved performance) I initially was thinking it would be worthwhile as it will likely be $150 CAD more, and the benefits are better binning for overclocking and the hyperthreading.

Tl;dr i5 or i7 for better overclocks and multi threaded performance worth or not?

>>56945786
don't fall for the meme, get the 3570k and the 7970 and thank me later

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fgTdbj
Is the the best price to performance build I can get for gaming, and do I need to get another case fan with the R5?

>>56945786
>Next summer
>1080?

1180 will be out by then

7600k will be the better buy unless you need the ht for something.

>>56944955
Get 3000MHz RAM
Get a HGST HDD

>>56945989
>Is the the best price to performance build I can get for gaming
Depends on your monitor. It's overkill for 1080p 60Hz

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Ordered pic related for 1348.
Will switch case and cooler with Thermaltake Cir V21 and Corsair H100iGTX of jet.com for ~$120. So $1468 for it in total.

Rate?

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>>56937130
WATER OR AIR COOLING?

which one you prefer, /g/?

>>56945882
Should I get a laptop with a 7970m instead?

I heard that the Xbox and PS4 use it and they're like really good like better than PC so like I should use it right?????????

>>56946825
Water cooling is a meme. It's a massive waste of money and doesnt even look that good.

>>56946589
What the fuck? I thought Volta was supposed to be 2018, and that they'd be doing the ti cards next year. Are they really moving on that quickly? If the 1180 truly releases next summer then I'll definitely be getting that instead, but goddamn. I didn't think they'd release so soon.

>>56946858
k... but if you ignore the looks part, does it at least cool better and does it use less electricity?

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>>56946764
$1997 total after discounts and rebates.
$1997 - $1468 = ~$529 in savings. How'd I do /g/?

>>56946955
It can cool better if you use really good components in a full custom loop, but itll approach a few grand in supplies easily. Its also generally louder than most air cooling setups. And obviously it uses more electricity for the pump and extra fans.

>>56947072
thanks!

Hey guys, I'm looking to pick up an IPS monitor that has a 100+ refresh rate and a low response time(between 4-6) along with maybe g-sync, would this be a decent way of getting all that?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZOO348C/ref=as_li_tl?tag=amazon0251-20&ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00ZOO348C&linkCode=as2&linkId=PKVR6UDTTFTHPZQR

God the only thing I can't decide on is the monitors. I think I want to get 3 Monitors, give my mom my old ASUS VE278Q 27" monitor since I want all my monitors to look the same.

I'm not sure if I should get.
>Ultrawide or Normal
>Curved or Normal
>4K or 2560 x 1440
>144 Hz or 60hz

I also hate how fucking FOR THE GAMERS some monitors look like now.
Which is the most reliable brand for monitors? I see a lot of people like Acer and LG, but I'm not sure if it's the best on the market.

Anyone else have opinions on monitors.

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Should I get a GTX 780?
I need a video card (so far I was using my i5-2500k integrated hd2000) and can get a second hand gtx 780 for around $165. My monitor is 1920x1200 btw

Is it worth upgrading my locked i7 4770 to a 4790K? I play a lot of Rome, and war hammer total war. Would I see any noticeable improvement with my rig running a 980ti on an asus z87a mobo?

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I have a Titan XP. Budget of $2000. Live in the USA. I want to game on ultra settings 1440p 144hz.

Help me build around the Titan XP, plz.

>>56948825
Btw I'm currently running a cheap 1080p monitor with plans to upgrade to 1440p come cyber Monday.

>want to build my own case
How? Do CAD drawings for typical designs that I could use as a base exist?

>>56948860

Two questions:

1) Do you already have a suitable monitor and other peripherals?

2) Do you want the rest of your PC to be scaled with your GPU?

The answers to these questions are very important, because with a Titan XP you could get those framerates with 6600k or even a 6500. But if you want to spend $2000 on a tower that is on the same budgetary level as the Titan then you're looking at some hardcore shit: 6850k, X99 mobo, 32GB RAM, etc.

>>56948946

>Monitor

Didn't want to mention it because I have a meme monitor. ASUS ROG PG278Q.

I was thinking about getting a 6700k. Is the 6850k good for gayming?

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Is there any loss if I re-route everything?
If I build a box with a computer inside but with the USB ports have USB extension cords in, HDMI has an extension cord in, etc. etc.

Just toying with the idea of doing a 'hidden' computer with simply a small box of ports visible on the desk.

>>56946865
They rushed it. Ti's are comming in a few months and Volta has been set for May/June next year. Originally the plan was indeed to let Pascal run for 2 years but is now just 1. This is the reason why the prices of Pascal cards are way above their advised retail price because Nvidia and AIB's are trying to rack in as much shekels as they can before the next series hits.

>>56949035
>falling for the i7 meme
Yeah forget it, you shouldn't build a PC. Give that money to someone else.

>>56949035

There isn't any real difference between the 6700k and the 6850k when it comes to gaming since most games aren't going to take advantage of the extra cores.

If your budget is $2000 then you have a LOT of wiggle room. If you just want a typical high end computer you want the 6700k, an AIO cooler (240mm or 280mm), a Z170 motherboard, 16GB of RAM, an SSD (for installs), an HDD (for storage), a PSU and a case.

Something like this would be perfect: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hcLWcc

But that doesn't take into account your own tastes. You haven't mentioned form factor, or any color preferences.

>>56948790
someone help

>>56949150
Why waste money for old hardware, just save for something better.

>>56948790

Dude, that tech is two generations old.

A brand new 1060 is both cheaper and more powerful.

can I just buy the cheapest h110 mobo to use with an 6400 and rx 470 or are there any downsides, besides the reduced number of fans I can use

Instead of buying https://www.adafruit.com/products/1652 can't I just buy https://www.adafruit.com/products/1751 and https://www.adafruit.com/products/1716 ?
Will it work with any computer with a DisplayPort?

>>56949158
I am really cannot justify spending more than that on a GPU

>>56949160
thanks, will look into that

Guy with i5 6400 and Z170 mobo here.

I'm using the stock cooler right now, I'm able to hit only about 3.9 Ghz atm. Thats with 2111 Mhz DDR4, I somehow can't go higher ram speed atm.

Next couple of days, I intend to see if I can push past 4Ghz and above 2111 Mhz ram with various tweaks.

Also, my ASRock mobo came with latest bios with "skylake OC removed" function. I could still overclock the BCLK. I downgraded the bios to before they did the "skylake non-k oc removed" patch note just for the extra.

I need to find our more info on how to OC this properly to its fullest (past 4.3 Ghz) potential. Any one have leads?

>>56949435
Here's a hint, get a K series CPU next time. I mean, jesus is going through all this fucking effort with a locked CPU really worth the 50 bucks you saved?

Thank you for the shill post. If I already know how to buy. Im not seeking financial advise, I'd leave that to /biz/. Technical expertise is what I'm seeking, thank you sales guy for your thought.

>>56949522
This isn't a " how do I overclock" thread, this is a build thread and I gave you build advise since that is what the thread is for faggot. Go to the OC thread.

>>56949052
pls help

>advise: verb
>offer suggestions about the best course of action to someone.
Nothing about your post suggests "best course of action". I'm not seeking advise on which CPU to buy.

Stop being so retarded.

>>56949052

you can just use longer cables and a USB hub??

>>56937448
fuck outta here newb, yes you have adn stop giving bad advice

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3qYd6
Any advice on this build?
For some gaming and plan for upgrade afterwards

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VwtXRG

How does this build look? Really, I want it to be as silent as possible.

>>56950778
>K
>H170

>>56949968
That's not what I asked tho

>>56951245


Take this thread to the back of the shed already, new bread

>>56949160
No he said he could get it for $165