/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>56532971
>>56533024
Do you recommend a few that I can compile myself and optimize for my specific computer?

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just picked these up. Pretty happy so far. Looking for a replacement cable with a straight jack and maybe a sleeved cable or something else neat, but haven't had any luck. Anyone know of some?

>>56533255
At this point I'd recommend using foobar2000 in WINE or whatever Linux users use to run Windows programs. With WINE you can then add the VST plugins with foobar2000.

>>56533416
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of using Linux in the first place?

>125
>US
>PC
>Circumaral
>Open
>comfy
>HyperX clouds

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Might as well post this here as no other audio threads are up. Slapped some absorbers on my walls and measured the response in my room. I have done some re-arrangements to the room so the measurements aren't entirely comparable but you can hear the difference in decay time easily. The absorbers I got don't have an effect on the lows or midrange response.

>Budget
200AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Samsung S7
>Preferred type of headphone
earphone- already have Beyer DT250 for home but can't take it outside due to its coiled wires and its not really portable
>Comfort Level
balanced. Would prefer to be comfort over quality
>Preferred tonal balance
warm

Is the Audio Technica IM02 a good choice?

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>>56533499
Here is a completely untreated room which is more than troublesome with its shape and size. This is annoyingly lively.

>>56532950
Let me try this, anyone have some advice? I got a new Phone last year, the Apple plastic in ears that come with it are horrible. My old Sony's are falling apart. Since I use them a lot (like 4hr/day, every day) I'm willing to spend some.
One major thing is that they should fit well enough not to fall out while running, and preferably with 'remote' control cable thingy

>Budget
€50, maybe more if that doesn't get me anywhere
>Location
EU
>Source
3.5mm
>Preferred type of headphone
In-ear
>Comfort level
Important, at least 10x more comfy than Apple's
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to Bright I guess
>Past headphones
I had a HD201 years ago; if there are in ears with anywhere near that quality I'd be real happy

Thanks already

>>56533495
Sennheiser HD518

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I own the DT880 600 ohm Premium. Do I need an amplifier or does my motherboard work fine?

>>56533561
Oh wow I really didn't get the source thing right
>Source
Spotify standard quality on iPhone/netbook

>>56533582
You probably need an amp.

>budget
$200
>location
USA
>source
desktop computer
>preferred type of headphone
over the ear
>open or closed
doesn't matter
>comfort level
high
>preferred tonal balance
neutral
>past headphones
Some $50 pair of Sony's, I forget the model number.

I'm thinking about getting the AKG K702. Is that a good idea or are there better headphones in that price range?

>Budget
$30
>Location
poland
>Source
mp3 player
>Preferred type of headphone
portable
>Open or Closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort Level
Sound Quality > Comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
doesn't matter

need some on ear headphones for gym and i need something smaller than FULL SIZE PROFESSIONAL STUDIO DISK JOCKEY HEADPHONES so i won't look like a retard

How does /hpg/ feel about JayBirds? Any other wireless brands worth looking into?

>wireless

I know it sacrifices a decent bit, but just for the sake of the argument.

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>>56533629
You can probably find some Koss Porta Pros for less than 30 dollars. Or if you have more than enough they are a bit above.

>>56533596
w-why though? I really don't want to spend more dosh unless it's necessary.

How does /hpg/ feel about Apple trying to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack? Could the lightning port offer increased sound quality?

Hypothetically, other manufacturers follow suit and replace the 3.5mm headphone jack with USB type c, could that have any benefits?

>>56533677
They might not sound loud enough through the integrated soundcard of your mobo.
Why did you buy a DT880 600 Ohm in the first place and didn't you consider a different headphone? There are a lot of headphones which are easier to drive and maybe even better than DT880 for the same, if not a lower, price.
Spending money on an amp should always be taken into consideration especially when buying high end heapdhones.

>>56533761
I got them for $182 brand new. :x

>>56533629
You'll look like a retard wearing anything that goes over your head. Get some Piston 3s.

>>56533255
Was there something you could do with LADSPA? I don't remember clearly.
Otherwise, you would have put together a VST chain and spend some time getting it to work.

>>56533416
>VST plugins with foobar2000
Fb2k wrappers do not play nice with my VSTs. Doesn't support VSTs out of the box, or did they fix that?

>>56533499
There's little something you need to remember about time/frequency analysis. You can clearly see one or the other, but not both at the same time.
As it is, it's hard to tell what is the ringing implied by the FR and what is a room effect.

>>56532950
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

>>56533781
For that cost you could have bought some nice Sony MDR-V6 with some after market cushy earpads and a hardware equalizer to fix the treble peak.

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>>56533825
Yeah I can use eq4p or whatever it was called with my DAW or with this particular player I can't seem to find any documentation on how to use.

>>56533852
>V6 being better than DT880 Premiums
lmao nice try kiddo.

>>56533921
Are you saying your local news station's boom operator is wrong?

>Budget
<$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone/Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
In ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
V shaped
>Past headphones
MEE M6P

>>56533963
they need cheap closed headphones so i don't see what your point is

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>Budget
20-30€
>Location
germanistan, North West
>Source
samsung Galaxy Trend Plus
>Preferred type of headphone
On-Ear Headphones or Earbuds Headphones
which doesn't matter, prefably the former
>Comfort level
balanced, i want to be able to lie in my bed without problems and the best quality should be a priority
>Preferred tonal balance
one for rock and orchestral music
>Past headphones
sennheiser mx375
they were alright but the cable was irritating

>>56533714
no

>>56533547
Yes.
>>56533561
HJE120
>>56533582
Does it get loud enough?
>>56533621
HD558 or SHP9500, K702 potentially needs an amp, don't recommend it because it may lack bass to some due to its large earpads which don't seal well on some heads.
>>56533629
KSC75
>>56533714
Probably not.
>>56533847
Suicide is the answer.
>>56533994
M6 PRO
>>56534012
HJE120

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Are headphones that have 6mm output by default somehow better than 3.5mm?
Do 3.5mm to 6mm adapters somehow lower the sound quality?

>>56534217
>Are headphones that have 6mm output by default somehow better than 3.5mm?
no
>Do 3.5mm to 6mm adapters somehow lower the sound quality?
no

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>>56533825
>As it is, it's hard to tell what is the ringing implied by the FR and what is a room effect.
Yeah true. I didn't conduct good measurements before applying the panels so this is kind of poor anyway. I think my old measurement is one channel only which could also affect the room response. Here's a zoomed in overlay of the CSD plots.

Question, are the Sennheiser CX-300 ii precision good enough to last say a year while biking and using them at the gym? Usually i take pretty good care of my earbuds but these are a bit expensive for me and I'm wondering if the investment is worth it. Also, how's the sound quality? I'm gonna use them with a Sony S754, so far I've been using the earbuds from my Lenovo vibe shot which are actually pretty good but Id like a bit more

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>>56534288
And FR overlay at the same spot with the same 1/48th octave smoothing.

>>56534217
>Are headphones that have 6mm output by default somehow better than 3.5mm?
yes
>Do 3.5mm to 6mm adapters somehow lower the sound quality?
yes

Anyone else using the RHA MA750?

>>56534217
no to both
literally no difference unless the headphones need fucking atomic power

so no

>>56534217
>Are headphones that have 6mm output by default somehow better than 3.5mm?
yes
>Do 3.5mm to 6mm adapters somehow lower the sound quality?
no

>>56534217
>Do 3.5mm to 6mm adapters somehow lower the sound quality?
they can if you buy the 0.39$ ones. Anything half decent (does not have to be 'audiophile' or even 'pro' grade) will do fine.

>>56534217
No, but it's often found in the high end models.
Some have screw-on 6.3mm adapters so it fits really well. It doesn't have an incidence on audio quality, but it's a much more durable plug.

>>56534217
>Are headphones that have 6mm output by default somehow better than 3.5mm?
no
>Do 3.5mm to 6mm adapters somehow lower the sound quality?
maybe

>>56534217
6,35mm is the old standard and is mostly found from higher end headphones these days. Some models ship with an adapter to use either jack. 3,5mm plug was adopted with portable devices and there's also a 2,5mm version available. The larger plugs are merely more sturdy but there are no differences in sound quality.

>>56534419
It would basically have to be broken, botched wiring/solders.

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>>56532950
What's up /hpg/
I'm a poorfag and just got this bad boys for $20 each. Did i fucked up?

>>56526813
Bumping this for more replies pls
Would prefer 6mm standard

>>56534133
>HJE120
does are not my style
maybe any On-Ear Headphones ?

>>56534571
nah

>>56534571
http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Earphones/5249023

The cheap in-ear house sound. I rate: still better than Sennheiser IE80 / 10

>>56534571
> extra bass
> white hand
why?

>>56534897
Got them for the quality/price.
With common drives, size limits the lower frequency output of an in-ear headset, so having the extra bass in budget earphones helps the sound quality overall.

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Anyone have any resources that would tell me what the hell I'm doing?

>>56535042
What you should be doing is getting a parametric equalizer. We have a guide for basic equalizing in the Wiki.

>>56533714
3.5mm TRS is just a connector, and its problems have more to do with the mechanics of the connector than the electrical. The iPhone still has to have a DAC. If you can pass analog audio signals through it, not sure how that would differ.

>>56534288
That's REW, right? Let me take a crack at that.

>>56535042
What program or plugin did you say this was?

>>56535007
>size limits the lower frequency output of an in-ear
No. These are not free radiators, and driver/enclosure resonance frequency determines the lower bound on that anyway. These play into a pressure chamber, so the limiting factor to bass extension is leakage. Without cavity leakage DC pressurization is possible.

>>56533284
you'll get used to the angled jack, I've heard the replacement cables are not as durable so I never switched it out. Oh and be sure to experiment with the tips, once you go triple flange you never go back... until they turn yellow and you have to hide them in front of your coworkers.

>>56535160
http://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/about.html

How does a pc benefit from having a DAC?

>$200-250
>Canada
>Fiio E10
>Over the ear
>Closed
>Comfort level not top priority
>Neutral to Bassy
>Past headphones were Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros

Can someone recommend me comfy bluetooth in-ear headphones for 100 or less? I'm in Yurop if that matters
Sound quality doesn't matter THAT much.

>>56535289
It lets you convert the digital signal from your MP3s or whatever to an analog signal that can be understood by your speakers headphones and such.

>>56535214
>http://jamin.sourceforge.net/en/uibasics.html
>Hand-drawn EQ (HDEQ)
You're supposed to draw the EQ curve you want. The yellow points are closer to the standard parametric filters. White is the actual EQ that gets implemented.

While you're at it, why leave the compressor on?

I'm a noob to speakers, anyway how come evrytime I scroll with my mouse or move it around when no music is playing it makes this little annoying buzzing/static sound?

>>56534571
>Seat

Yeah you pretty much fucked up.

>>56534897
>white hand

Nope.

>Budget
$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Schiit stack
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or Closed
Closed
>Comfort level
not a priority
>Preferred tonal balance
I like the sound of my HD600 but something different would be nicd
>Past headphones
HD600

>Under 100 Dollars
>Canada
>My phone, Moto G
>IEM
>Comfort doesnt matter
>Samsung galaxy headphones(they seemed decent, but maybe i dont know shit about sound)

>>56535881
DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition

>>56535470
plox

>>56535962
Why not the 250 ohm? Won't it sound better than the 80 ohm if I can drive it?

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>>56532950
Stop being a faggot and wait for the bump limit.

>>56535470
What is crosstalk interference?

I have the 1More Triple Driver. You won't find a better deal under $100. They blow my fucking mind every time I listen.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1140/4626/files/S015567.pdf?588774706172739029

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>>56535160
>That's REW, right?
Yes.
>Let me take a crack at that.
Sure:

https://a.uguu.se/4kavOfrQYfZx_batch_of_measurements.7z

First four dated for today are well, the new measurements with absorbers on the wall. The crapload of others are single channel measurements in the same room without any treatment taken earlier this year. However I had a few things aligned differently back then, speakers weren't on stands and mic was placed some 50cm further back. Also SPL is not matched properly between the old measurements and the new ones. That'll be a problem if you try to overlay the CSD plots. Play around if you want.

Anyone have any suggestions for foam tips or tips in general for my old UE TripleFi Pro 10's? I've tried comply foam but they don't last and I don't fancy coughing up 15 quid every 4 months.

>>56536077
But how else could he achieve fucking up the OP?

>>56536077
Nobody cares.
>>56536291
Shure foam tips?

>>56536305
How is the OP fucked up?

>>56536105
well how do I stop it?

>>56535470
It's interference from something. Likely USB crosstalk if the mouse movement causes the buzzing.

>>56536375
Try to plug the mouse to another port, preferably one which is behind another USB controlled. How are the loudspeakers connected to your PC?

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>those headphones

Why is he so based?

With the upcoming 7, what are the best (not incredibly overpriced) wireless headphones available?

Preferably earbuds.

>>56536457
It's connected by using a stereo breakout cable.

>headphone thread
iPhones need not apply kek.

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>>56536527
kys

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>>56536620
forgot pic

>>56536620
Not much you can do if you don't have another sound card. This is the time when an external or a discrete DAC is useful, preferably one which is not USB powered in your case, to isolate the sound card from the interference.

massdrop has a pair of AKG M220 right now for cheap, anyone use these before? For what they're worth, are they decent? I know higher end AKG is a little lacking on bass, wondering if I should get a slighly better model for a bit more. Looking in the $100 range for something cheap but I like the style of these AKGs

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Hey /hpg/, got a question for yall. I've got a pair of Takstar 2050's and I really really enjoy them. And as I understand it, Hyper Cloud X's are just Takstars under a different brand, so I'm thinking of getting a pair of those for the headset.

Thing is though, one of the biggest pros of the Takstars for me are the earpads. I basically wear my headphones around the clock, so comfort is super important. It looks like the hyper clouds have a different earpad material though, it looks like a shitty fake leather type deal.

Does anybody here have a pair? Can you comment on how comfortable they are?

>>56533284

I fucking love mine.

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>>56536824
kys

>>56536824
just get the brainwavz's HM5 erapads. Takstars default are good (as well the HypX) but they arent comparable to Brainwavz's HM5 pads.

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>>56536888
>tfw razerfag can't afford a razer blade

>>56536048
Higher impedance doesn't automatically make them better. High impedance headphones only exist because decades ago, in studios, many headphones would be wired in parallel.

>>56536974
>High impedance headphones only exist because decades ago, in studios, many headphones would be wired in parallel.
That's actually an interesting bit of information which I never knew about.

>>56533477
not really. linux isn't designed specifically so you don't have to use windows programs lad

Why the fuck do my speakers have so much fucking treble, it's like a loud ac.

>>56534288
What should a fully treated room look like?

>>56536307
Which is why it is brought up every thread you create a new thread before the bump limit? You're delusional.

>>56536636
That's not very helpful.

>>56537115
From you?

Like I said, nobody cares.

Also, I didn't make the thread.

>>56535303
Did you buy the iPhone 7?

>>56537092
Depends on the room and there's no consensus on this in general. There's no right way to do it. I haven't heard enough acoustically treated rooms to even know my preference.

>>56537129
This thread hardly ever is when it comes to suggesting anything wireless. Jaybird X2 is great for a sportier pair of in-ears but supposedly has some problems with seal on some people. LG HBS-1100 neckband things are nice but I'm not sure if that's a form factor for your liking.

>>56535303
Probably best to ask from /csg/.

>>56535470
Get a cheap "ground loop isolator" off ebay or amazon, trust me, once you hook monitors or speakers up to a pc you will get that noise, it's electrical currents running freely with no backend, the ground loop isolator is basicly a little wire with a small box attached, that will insulate the wire, illuminating the sharp buzz/noise (you may also have your 'mic in' on high)

>>56537189
Would isolating or removing reverb be a main to treatment or making sure sound waves break when they hit an open wall?

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>>56533499
Oh neat you posted them here.

>>56535881
K553 pro

>>56536949
>BATTLEFIELD 3
>Razer Blade

Delete your account.

>>56537137
>From you?
From at least two people based upon responses in this thread alone. 2≠0

>>56535202
Its just a pain since if I have it on my phone in my pocket its either being kinked up hard or tightly looping around.

>order dt990s for 140$ on amazon
>get mmx300s
Wew lad

>>56537333
>playing literal garbage

Delete your life

How can I lower the boomy ass bass in the jblLs305

>>56537420
Set the LF trim on the back to -2dB, move them further away from the wall.

>>56534571
Hola Jose! Como estas?

>>56537358
It's common knowledge that Battlefield 3 was released years ago.

Doesn't mean I play it.

Nice projecting though.

>>56534640
ksc-75

>>56537247
It depends on what you are targeting and what you want/can do in the room. There are "camps" for both sides. Some like extreme diffusion and others quiet rooms where nearly all reflections are eliminated. Commonly you aim to use both absorbers and diffusors to control the reflections and ringing inside the room as you see fit. For example, I remember F. Toole recommending diffusors at first reflection points but absorption at the later ones. Low frequencies need to be treated differently. Bass traps, EQ and subwoofer arrays help. This treatment is entirely dependent on the goal and the room in question. Rooms of different size, shape and decor suffer from different kinds of problems. Loudspeaker design and placement plays a major role at the room response too.

>>56537273
Figured you'd check the thread at some point.

>>56537523
Casi, anon.
No soy José, pero si soy mexicano.
Bueno, como sea dile a José que tiene un excelente gusto en audífonos.

>>56537532
Razer Blades have existed since 2012 you retard.

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Headphones hiss like crazy on this phone. Any way I can fix it?

>>56537449
This worked thanks anon, had them close to the wall and shit was just blasting my apartment

>>56537695
Actually, it seems that the easier the headphone/earphone is to drive, the louder the hiss becomes.

>>56537734
You also Could have used an equaliser haha

>>56537695
Get another phone
Get less sensitive headphones

Are Xiaomi Pistons looked down on in the headphone community?

>>56537859
No, they are a pretty good meme.

>>56537753
Of course, you're elevating the noise floor more rapidly with more sensitive transducers

What are some of the best earphones you can get for under £30/$40?

Also are those 'copper wire' earphones I see any good?

>>56537791
Don't want to get another phone right now.

I just got new IEMs which are easy as fuck to drive and they hiss like crazy. Maybe I'll just buy a usb dac.

>>56537926
Which in-ears? Some multi-BA driver ones perhaps?

>>56537947
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-SENFER-4in1-In-Ear-Earphone-Dynamic-BA-Hybrid-Drive-Unit-DIY-DJ-Earphone-HIFI-Headset/32704437923.html?aff_platform=aaf&sk=imayv33vb%3A&cpt=1473543986173&af=1000225000000000242022015&cn=aliexpress&cv=banner&dp=19TZ1JpUvLZ54hn&aff_trace_key=3b65739fe2c04a2cb79ed38bcf54681f-1473543986173-04455-imayv33vb

They only hiss on my phone. Every other device sounds good. Guess I could buy a different pair of IEMs, but I'm not sure how to tell if they'll hiss as well.

newfag from /v/ here, sorry for asking questions yall probably get 50 times a day.

I'm looking for a set of headphones for my pc. I listen to alot of Metal, rock and DnB along with gaymin. I was looking through the /g/ headphones wiki and the pastebins you have listed but apparently i'm too stupid to formulate exactly what I want. If I have to pick between vidya sounds and music i'd rather have it lean towards musical quality.

What setup would you recommend given say $150? Cheaper is better but i'd rather not sacrifice audio quality for it. The wiki mentions alot about equalizers and DACS and such, but I don't know much about them. My pc doesn't have a soundcard installs, but i'm capable of installing one if I need to (i'd have to buy it though).

Thanks in advance

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>>56537196
https://www.amazon.com/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-3-5-mm-Isolator/dp/B001EAQTRI

Would this work?

>>56538091
Open or closed?

If open is fine, HD 558. If closed back, MDR-7056. Both are easy to drive without any powerful amplifiers, both are fairly neutral in their sound signature and both are generally considered to be comfortable headphones. You can find both on Amazon and most retailers who sell headphones so there isn't an issue with availability.

>>56538091
for that price range, the hd558 is the best all rounder you can buy. Especially if you gayme because it has a large soundstage

Stupid question but if I wanted to use a mic with my headphone, what kind of dac/amp would I need for that, I'd need something with two Jacks wouldn't I? I'm new to this and researching what I'll need.

>>56538173
>>56538198
>HD 558

Alright, do I need to buy a DAC for it to sound nice or anything?

>>56538234
One you inform yourself on dacs, then you will know that you dont

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>>56538234
No. A DAC isn't driving your headphones. DA-conversion is done already by your motherboard. You just plug the headphones into the audio output jack and are good to go. Here's the checklist anyway, in the case you encounter some issues:

Amplifier/DAC checklist:
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, you don't need one.

>>56538200
You need an ADC for the microphone which is behind the microphone/line-in jack on your motherboard.

>>56538300
>>56538332
>>56538300
>>56538198
>>56538173
reading the reviews on amazon, it seems that quite a few people had problems with the right speaker not working? Is this a common issue?

Has anybody here tried the Xiaomi on-ear headphones?

>>56538332
>-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
You what? Equalization has nothing to do with impedence.

>>56532950
Those new ER 4s are sexy.

>>56538535
Had mine for 3 years with some serious abuse, still works just fine

Plus you should have a warranty

>>56538569
Damping does. You reverse the effects of low damping with equalization in minimum phase devices such as headphones. This is assuming that the voltage division is uneven in the first place. Impedance function of the headphones in relation to output impedance of the amplifier tells you whether there is such an issue or not. It's predictable and reversible.

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>>56538147
Yes, here's a picture of mine for proof it works (plugged into 2 behringer b1030a's via a soundblaster omni 5:1 dac)

>Budget
200 - 250 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
AMP
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Something neutral with maybe a bit more bass.
I'm mostly just looking for comfy M50s. Not sure how neutral they are considered to be, but I find them fun to listen to and I like the extra bass for certain genres
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202
ATH M50 (current)

>>56539363
Fidelio X2

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Pretty comfy

Can I get like a visual guide on how to put headphones on? Beginning to wonder if I'm doing it wrong because this is the second time now that I've had a cup snap right off a pair as I'm going to put them on.

>>56539630
slide them on your head, also dont buy shitty headphones

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>>56539705
Should I be grabbing them by the cups and pulling them apart like this? Because this is how I put them on. I was saving up for a good pair, but now I need a new pair now so that's out the window.

>>56539736
why would you fucking do that?

>>56539747
How the hell else am I supposed to get them on? I don't have a baby head that can fit between a pair of headphones without doing that.

I used to have a pair of MDR-V6s. They were great, but the little wires leading to the speakers kept getting caught when folding the earpieces, and it caused one of the speakers to go dead from wearing down one of the wires. I've bounced between headphones since, but nothing I've used since has come close to the quality of those.
I've been looking at some MDR-7506s, since they're a little less expensive than the V6s these days. They're ~$80, and velour replacement pads that don't suck are $20. Are they still worth the price, or is there something else I should be looking at these days?

Is the AKG K 240 passable? I'm Canadian and on a fairly tight budget. Most of the stuff in the /g/ guide I'm looking at (http://pastebin.com/CCQCUv5e) is significantly more expensive than listed. $150+, most of the time, or I'd just go by it.

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How does the bass on the 880 compare to an HD600 for example?

>>56539902
Bass is tighter (flatter response) and extended better, HD600 bass is looser and boomier (midbass hump) and doesn't extend to the sub-bass frequencies as well.

>>56539934
I've read that the DT990s have very peaky highs and recessed mids. Does the same apply to the 880?

More like a bunch of faggots argue over which nearly identical $250+ par of status symbols sounds better general.

>>56540054
The highs aren't as peaky, there's just a single spike that can be easily EQ'd out if necessary. It generally hovers around 8-9kHz. The midrange recession is there but again not as prominent as the DT 990.

You could also get lucky(?) and get a 'faulty' DT 880 model that has a treble dip as opposed to a peak which makes it sound a bit more agreeable I guess. http://goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&listStyle=gallery&page=8&document_srl=5709845 Could just be a measurement error though.

>>56539871
Or, failing that, the Audio-Technica ATH-M30x? I don't want to go too much over $100 and these both look like decent choices. I'm not sure how sturdy either pair is.

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I don't get it, will these headphones be all digital or they still analog? Can lighting convert to analog?

>>56540160
They wont even answer you unless you are ready to spend 200 or more.

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Are these the best headphones of all time?

>>56540200
Why?

>>56540172
If I had $200 or more I'd just order something from the "$60-$80" section of the guide. Because that's how much everything in there is in Canada.

>>56540170
They have a built in dac.

>>56540201
Noise quality is great, they have a useful slider for turning the volume up/down and configuring bass/treble and they're cheap for their quality.

>>56540222
Then I think you mean "the best headset of all time at this price range"

>>56540216
Is a dac chip that tiny?

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>>56540243
Then what would be the best headset?

>>56540252
No he is a retard, the lightining connector supports analog out.

>>56540276
>the lightining connector supports analog out.
You're a retard.

Any reviews for the new Sennheiser HD 5xx series yet?

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>>56540264
No idea but i've seen a lot of people praising the Hyper X Cloud (NOT Cloud II)

>>56540206
Told you they would ignore you.

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>>56540309
Explain this, you retard

>let me buy expensive headphones then plug it into an analog source that colors and degrades the signal
>let me equalize the signal and turn it into shit
>hmm this artist sucks, i'll increase the bass on this track
>i can totally hear difference on 24 bit / 96 khz / FLAC
>FLACs of 100% digitally produced music

xD

>>56540443
Explain why the Lightning to 30-pin adapter had a DAC in it? That adapter has a DAC in it too.

>Budget
Less than 300USD
>Location
US
>Source
Computer, sometimes a phone
>Preferred Type
Circumaural
>Tonal Balance
No preference

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Newegg has a sale on these bad boys for $109.
I've already got a pair but for those interested

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7NT4SU1817&ignorebbr=1

I'm retarded and would appreciate some clarification on a product:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QY4RLRQ/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=1ZS4RH4AGZF7U&coliid=I2EKSZAL3RV4B6&vs=1&th=1&psc=1

Looking at this as I want to get a good pair of headphones but also use a mic, I'm curious as to how this would connect to a dac as it seems to be USB as I understand having a dac is helpful if your onboard audio is not great. Would this be enough to power decent headphones up to good volumes?

>>56541076
Too bad it isn't the 880. The 990 are ssssssibilant

>>56541128
I'm 98.9% certain that interface does not have an headphone amplifier

>>56541076
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7NT4SU1762
770s are also on sale.

>30 usd
>us
>pc/phone
>over ear
>Comfort is important but sound quality is more important
>6 dollar earbuds

>>56541140
For $109 they're incredibly comfortable, built well and can be EQ'd fairly easily.

>>56541195
Is the treble really as cancerous as everyone says?

>>56541213
Really depends on the kind of music you listen to and what your preferences are. People who like the rolled off treble response of something like an Audeze headphone is going to wince from the treble of the 990.

>>56541213
>Is the treble really as cancerous as everyone says?
For me it was. I didn't mind the overpowered bass and recessed mids at all, but that treble man... holy shit my ears

>>56533582

You bought headphones with a 600 ohm impedance. If you want them to sound anything like they are supposed to, you need something that is designed to accommodate an impedance like that.

You need an amp.

If you weren't going to commit you shouldn't have tried to buy decent headphones in the first place.

>> 125-175 USD
>> USA
>> 3.5
>> Wireless (I know)
>> Open
>> Medium (same or higher than previous set)
>> Neutral
>> HDR/RS 110

>>56541128
it's usb, it does not use anything else, it's not affected by any parts in your pc. it's a digital signal, unlike the stupid amp/dac combo everyone does. you plug this into your pc, and your headphones/mic into the box. no dac or amp anywhere
yes, they drive all headphones intended for production/listening. probably won't drive some obscure autistic audiophile shit.

for that price, i'd recommend you just get ur22 instead for more modern inputs/outputs and support.

for a mic you can buy a cheap small condensator mic with a desktop stand and plug straight into that box and it will work and it will be overkill for skype or whatever it is you want to use it for. it's a very easy and comfy setup

>>56539902

Listened to some 600 ohm 880's today at a meet, they were pretty good when driven from something designed for high impedance phones, but disappointing if they weren't.

How high can impedance get before most computers can't drive it adequately anymore?

>>56541352

~60 or so in most cases at best.

My computer can't drive K702 or T50RP even remotely adequately.

baka@ u lot, can't u afford beats? sort it out poorfags lmao

>>56541256
Lucky for me amazon fucked up my order. Starting to have second thoughts ordering the same one again

>>56541327
Thank you, that sounds so simple. Is there a benefit to doing a dac/amp combo? This seems like an equally priced alternative with more features.

Would the line outputs on the ur22 allow me to connect this to a speaker amp as well if I chose?

>>56541453
The dt880 cost around 180€ (amazon.de is 175€). I strongly recommend getting those instead

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B000F2BLTM/?tag=amorezon09-21

>>56541349
I have a fiio e10k and was planning getting the 250 ohm version, not the 600ohm

>>56541327
>>56541496
That is an amp/DAC combo, but geared for some recording rather than pure consumption.

>>56541352
>How high can impedance get before most computers can't drive it adequately anymore?
That does not happen, why do people think that? If anything, the reverse is more likely. The only practical issue with high impedance headphones is sensitivity.

Posting for a friend.

>Budget
1000 USD
>Location
>Source
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Not important but it shouldn't be really uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-7506

A friend of mine who works in film needs headphones to do mixing at home, he has studio monitors at his work studio. He doesn't want studio monitors at his home because of the noise. I've suggested the HD600. Any other input?

>>56539446
These actually look like what I was looking for. Thanks Anon

>>56541588
probably gonna wait for black friday and see if there are any dank deals. I heard the 598s are usually on sale at that time so I might try those

>Budget
$50-$150
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

What's the best way to be able to have multiple audio inputs? I would rather not have to constantly move cables so I can use my headphones whilst at my desk.

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>>56534251
>>56534365

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>>56542600
kek'd.. i dont even know why

>>56541882
Won't find anything better than the HD600 for that purpose.
>>56542600
MDR-7506, or stretch a bit and get DT250 80 ohm.

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So I work at Best Buy, and with my employee discount I can get The Audeze EL8 for $450 instead of $700. Its a $250 discount, is it worth it to buy or is something else more preferable?

Note that I can also get my massive discount on only these products http://www.bestbuy.com/site/headphones/over-the-ear-headphones/pcmcat143000050011.c?id=pcmcat143000050011

>>56543192
They really aren't worth any amount of money. Uncomfortable, heavy, sound like ass (treble is literally non-existant)

Unless you're buying them as a display piece, because their design is very nice.

100% get the HD650 with that discount or maybe the LCD-2 if you try them on and they aren't too heavy for your liking.

>Budget
100-200
>Location
US
>Source
android phone/pc will need long cable for pc use though
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
doesnt matter, would like to try open though
>Comfort level
dont care
>Preferred tonal balance
as much bass without compromising the trebale so v-shaped i suppose?
>Past headphones
beyerdynamic dt770s, cable died on me :(

Where can I buy original Pistons 3 for the lowest price? I browsed ebay, but I am not sure whether those 5 bucks are genuine or chinese knockoff.

I bought my last two from gearbest, which is now 15 buck.

Where were you when the analog audio jack was kill?

>>56543839
Where were you where even /hpg/ was dumb enough to bruise faults into their cables?

Think of the landfill saved by wireless headphones.

>>56537675
Brayan?... and no

>Budget
Less than or equal to 30USD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Straight from my phone (Redmi Note 3 Pro)
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort Level
Willing to sacrife a bit of sound quality if it means good gains in comfort department.
>Tonal Balance
Not enough experience to know what I prefer, though I'd imagine bass/neutral.
>Past headphones
Audotechnica ATH-M40x, free earphones from phone.

I'm mostly looking for something that is sturdy enough to last me 2 years at least. Not too much of a stickler for sound quality as long as it's better than "OK"

>>56532950
Where can I buy legit xiaomi piston 2s? They're incredibility hard to find legit now.

Hey anons, looking to get some new headphones and was wondering what you think.

>budget
$300 AUD or less.
>Location
Australia
>source
phone (LG G4) and pc
>preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>open or closed
closed
>comfort level
want them to be pretty comfy, will be using them for up to 8 hours at a time
>tonal balance
I guess neutral. I mainly listen to math rock and emo. Here is my last fm to give a better idea of what I like: http://www.last.fm/user/lolibuttepirate

would really appreciate some input, don't know much about headphones but I'm interested in getting into it.

>>56540200
i know this is bait, but turtle beach headsets are the biggest pieces of shit known to man

build quality 10* worse than old sennheisers
awful audio
uncomfortable as fuck
shithouse mic quality


just get hyper x clouds if you wan a cheap GOOD sounding headset

or some of the sennheiser headsets if you want higher end

>>56544473
MSR7.
Stretching the headband to reduce the clamp is possible due to it being metal.

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>>56532950
Am I a bad person for getting those 99 cent in-ear headphones that stop working after a few months? I also have the 99 cent adapter that lets you plug in two sets of headphones to one headphone jack.

I'm poor and I like to go to bed while listening to ear-to-ear ASMR, so when one side stops working, I get another set of cheap headphones. And then when one side stops working on that, I take both sets of headphones and cut off the broken lines with scissors, then I attach the working sides to the adapter I mentioned above, and now I have a 'Like-New!' set of stereo headphones and then I can go back to falling asleep to cute girls whispering into my ears.

I don't feel like spending hundreds of dollars on luxury headphones that might break while turning in my sleep.

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>>56544649
no, but at least buy something that last longer and more audio quality
Pic no related

>>565445735
Thanks for the rec mate, these seem pretty nice. I think I'll go with them.

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I play guitar on Amplitube, a digital guitar amplifier simulator. I currently use Superlux HD 668B headphones. I have $200. What is the best that I can buy for this job? My 668B is extremely uncomfortable to wear and I hate it. I don't have a headphone amp or anything. I have $200 for everything. Should I be going with closed-back headphones like the MDR V6 so I don't hear myself picking? Do I need the soundstage from an open-backed headphone for monitoring my guitar playing? I just don't know.

>>56544809
>>56544573
Whoops

$300AUD
Australia
Schiit stack
Full sized
Either
Comfy
HD280 pro (current)

>>56544867
why did you buy a schiit stack for the 280 pro lol

>>56541274
All high impedance does is lowers voltage sensitivity. On a weak amplifier they'll just be silent. There's nothing else to accommodate for than output voltage. A powerful on-board codec could very well drive them to loud volumes and if you do get enough volume, you are driving them properly.

>>56544875
Incremental upgrades. Bought the schiit stack, and now im looking to replace the 280pros

>>56544898
makes no sense when you likely wouldn't need the schiit stack at all.

>>56544896
>All high impedance does is lowers voltage sensitivity
No, these are two separate parameters. A headphone could be low sensitivity and low impedance, just as it could be high impedance and high(er) sensitivity.

>>56541274
>If you want them to sound anything like they are supposed to, you need something that is designed to accommodate an impedance like that.
As always, you need something with enough output power. To judge what is enough you just need to listen(or just calculate) how loud they get from whatever output.
>>56541327
>they were pretty good when driven from something designed for high impedance phones
There's nothing you design for high impedance load specifically other than more output voltage as high impedance generally comes with lowered sensitivity. But this really doesn't apply to high impedance only.
>>56541374
>~60 or so in most cases at best.
Nonsense. That has no correlation with anything, a number out of thin air.
>>56541352
No such limit. Low impedance load can be much more troublesome however. You'd be fine plugging headphones with 10 KOhm impedance to your motherboard if there were some but you wouldn't want to load the circuit with extreme low impedance.

Really, impedance is hardly even a spec worth knowing. Impedance function has some value, especially if you know the output impedance of your amplifier but mostly you can just ignore it. If you want to know whether your amplifier will drive a pair of headphones, check the headphone's sensitivity and the output power of the amplifier.

>Budget
$30
>Location
eu
>Source
ipod
>Preferred type of headphone
in ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
won't wear them more than 2 hours straight
>Preferred tonal balance
does not matter

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Reminder:

If you are an iPhone 7 user you can't post in this thread.

Ignoring budget, what would be the best 2.0 or 2.1 speakers I can buy right now in terms of audio clarity and flat frequency response?

>>56546113
JBL M2

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Hey /hpg/ what are some good iems for around 500 dollars?

I recently pre ordered pic related but i didn't really research what else is out there. (it's a 6 driver iem)

>>56546113
JBL M2, probably.

>>56546212
What sort of special sauce do you get from a $500 iem that you can't get from a $8 Sony MH1 with a bass reduction?

>>56546212
>Hey /hpg/ what are some good iems for around 500 dollars?
Can't think of any.

>>56546337
not a huge improvement. I got Xiaomi pistons 2 and 3 and then got myself some trinity audio atlas iems that were around 200 dollars. The improvement was there but it wasn't that big of a wow effect. i'm just looking for a more flat sound signature since xiomi pistons and atlas are very v shaped. Also i love the cool factor of multiple drivers.

>>56546212
ER4SR/XR

>>56534133
>HJE120
Thanks, hadn't seen those yet. Not available in my country though

>>56546212
>what are some good iems
Depends on your priorities and preferences.

>around 500 dollars
I generally recommend the ER4 and SE535 at this price. You can also take a gamble and get that new Audeze """IEM""".

>(it's a 6 driver iem)
This doesn't mean anything. An IEM can have lots of drivers and sound like ass.

Audio technica ATH-M50 any decent or have i made a terrible mistake?

>>56539902
Bass varies according to the DT880 model. Both 32 Ohm and 250 Ohm models have boomier, less refined bass than 600 Ohm model.
600 Ohm model has overall better bass than HD600 (tighter and more extended).

>>56547326
Their response is identical disregarding normal manufacturing variance.

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>>56547419
Goldenears graphs tell a different story.

>>56547438
It's the only graph which does and the upper mid/treble scoop of the 600 Ohm version is more troublesome than good imo. I'm quite certain that specific 600 Ohm defective. The voice coil wiring is scaled nicely between the versions, only the impedance and thus voltage sensitivity varies.

>>56547438
lolo and people here get mad at the lambda for having a 10k peak that is 0db relative to 1 kHz!

>>56547512
> 600 Ohm
> defective
And people still buy Beyers because they think that their quality control is ineherently better since they're made in Germany

>>56532950
Sennheiser HD598 at home; Open, comfortable. HD380 Pro at work; Closed, privacy.

Both have low THD and quite neutral response curve (no favouring or weakening bass or treble). Both feel durable and have detachable cable. Good value in their price bins too.

I love my setup.

>>56547648
Their QC is good but obviously not perfect.

>>56547792
There was massive problems with the tesla range. There is no imperfect for the asking price.

>>56546113
>flat frequency response
Really easy. Off axis is different and harder to do.
>audio clarity
There are many possible designs in audio, not all of which align in priority. Flat frequency response on-axis and smooth off axis is a good starting point, but this still leaves some variety in design. Should the directivity be held constant over a listening window or can it be free to roll off steadily? Can they be omni-directional?

JBL Pro has marketed well, and the M2 is a CD loudspeaker with a narrowed coverage and pattern control down to 200 Hz or so. The Neumann KH420 is smaller one, wider dispersion and perhaps a bit smoother as well. The same goes for the Genelec coax models 8260 and 8351. Just a few of the models I could dig up.

Then you have the DSP phased array loudspeakers, directivity control through selective phase manipulation from various wave emitters. AFAIK, most solutions are large PA systems and wouldn't even fit in a living room. I've heard about the Beolab 90 as a consumer oriented model, limited measurements so far.

>>56546337
Being in production is one. Acoustic damping, consistent product, a better depressurizer, better cables, and a nicely finished earpiece are some others.
Not that you are guaranteed any of these in a higher priced product.

Hey board, planning on getting the Game Zero headset what amp should I get with it I'm completely oblivious to this sort of stuff.

>>56548773
its only 50 ohms
unless youre on a 5+ year old mobo, you probably dont need one. and if you are, you should probably re-evaluate your purchases

also, just get HD 558's and a proper mic
cheaper and sounds better on both ends

headsets suck

>>56548773
>>56549627
Im not that guy, but I actually just came here specifically to ask about headsets.

Are there really no decent headsets out there? I'd really rather not have to deal with a desk mic, or a lapel mic, or one of those mics that clips onto the cord. I guess I will if I have to, but a headset with a built in mic would be so much more convenient for what I need it for.

>>56549943
the game zero isnt bad per se
its just awful value for your money
like pretty much all headsets, virtually any high end one

if you HAVE to have a headset, and you have the budget, go for it

its the best in that range, really

How important is a pop filter, I sit 1.5 feet from my desk mic and it works fine.

>>56550031
completely based on if you hear audible "pf" noises when saying words with 'p' and shit in em

if not, no

basic foam coverings work well too

>>56548330
>Beolab 90
There's also Kii Audio Three which does something of that sort, DSP phased array or whatever. Also very limited measurements but the thing seems impressive.

>>56550078
Don't particularly hear any 'pf' or 'p' sounds listening to my recorded speech. Thanks.

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Should I get these for $80?

>>56550154
if you dont mind heavy clamp, and need closed
yeah
otherwise HD 558 or potentially SHP9500 are better

theyre good studio monitors

Hey guys, looking to buy some new headphones as a gift to myself.

>Budget
400 CHF (~400$)
>Location
Switzerland, probably buying from here https://www.digitec.ch/
>Source
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
Nord Electro 5D (great Piano/Keyboard/Organ)
>Preferred type of headphone
In Ear or closed, don't really care much, qualtiy over anything, however, I want to keep my music to myself
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
quality > comfort, however, I'd like to have comfy ones
>Preferred tonal balance
something balanced, since I listen to a big range of music
>Past headphones
Only in ears with lacking quality.


I want some great quality and am wiling to spend. They should not be to have since I'm taking a lot of flights and train rides, thus some noise isolation would be great.
For a second I almost bought the Bose 35, but I heard the quality is not that great and noise cancellation is a gimmick.

Thanks for any recommendation.

>>56550154
I've got em. Very good and comfy just know that you might need to EQ them because the highs are quite overpowering.

>>56549627
Thanks, but on most of the reviews ect that I watched they said it sounded better with an AMP, if I am to buy one what one would be viable?

>>56550195
MDR-7506 isn't heavy clamp FYI. It's got medium clamp.
>>56550199
Oppo PM3.

>>56550452
don't fall for the 'schiit stack' meme unless youre cool with coughing up another 200 usd

research into the SMSL series [M3 is decent]
and the Fiio series

Where to buy shp9500 in europe, cannot find them anywhere.

What amp should I use for my 330hd?

>>56550452
also amp is just short for amplifier
you dont capitalise it like 'DAC'

>Budget
200€

>Location
Portugal

>Source
FiiO E10K

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Quality over comfort

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral without peaky highs

>Past headphones
Shitty 40€ creative headset

>>56550569
DT250 80 ohm.

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"AS NEW" Hifiman HE-400i at $300. Should I cop or not?

Source is a FiiO e10K Olympus 2, and I have a wide range of music as well as vidya etc.

>>56550546
eBay. There was a recent sale for $50 shipped, but I think that just finished. Shark around brah.

>>56550591
Sure, just be aware of the chink build quality.

>>56550560
this is why I love /g/, I'm not the only autist

>>56550591
decent price but not a steal, buy if you don't have a good open one on hand already

What's the difference between the Aliexpress cheap as fuck Shure 215 and the legit ones?
The chink ones are almost half the price of the legit pairs sold on Amazon.

>>56550199
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/etymotic-er4xr-in-ear-headphones-headsets-5846775
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/etymotic-er4sr-in-ear-headphones-headsets-5846776

Comfort is very subjective. Some don't like these at all, I personally don't mind the deep fit. Isolation from outside noise is second to none so "keeping music to yourself" or noise during flights or train rides is not a problem. I personally think these are the best sounding headphones/in-ears without the aid of equalization at any price point. XR is a bassier version to the SR but both are more or less neutral.

>Bose 35, but I heard the quality is not that great
QC35 is really good in the active mode. It's bassy and the response is very well extended and smooth. Without the active circuitry the response falls apart.
>and noise cancellation is a gimmick.
It's not. ANC works very well against low frequency noise such as a jet engine, humming/rumbling etc. ANC loses is effectiveness the higher you go in the frequencies so passive noise isolation is still required with it. It has its uses. ANC circuitry usually has a faint hiss which you can hear if you aren't playing music through the headphones.

>>56550452
I really wouldn't trust a reviewer saying that. The headphones might sound different depending on what you plug them into but a powerful amplifier is not what makes a difference here. They are sensitive enough to be used without any fancy amplification. If you want to get an amplifier regardless there are plenty of options. FiiO E10K is one of the budget friendly ones.

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KZ ZST or senfer UES.
both DD/BA hybrids but ones £22 and the other is £12.

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>>56532950
For the Next /hpg/ Please!

>>56550668
I own 3 ER-4s (XR, SR, PT) and I still don't recommend them to anyone. I think that many will find the ER-4 too bright and/or lacking bass. Even many will find the XR too thin because it lacks 'body' relative to many other IEMs. Not to mention some are afraid to push it deep to remove the resonance that occurs around 7kHz.

>>56550668
Okay, thank you very much. These too look like exactly what I was looking for.
I'll go for the SR.

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>>56550640
Seems to be solidly built enough right? It's a newer generation Hifiman with a metal build?

>>56550650
>buy if you don't have a good open one on hand already
Already have the Philips SHP9500 and the Hifiman HE-350 on the way (finally). Is it worth the jump to planars?

>>56550749
You might prefer the XR since it's the SR with a bass boost, the SR is for autists that want the highest level of accuracy.

>>56550708
I very rarely recommend them either just because of the fit is something you more or less need to get used to. ER-4S might be bright for many, I find it amazing. The PT is darker and XR is warmer although the difference is not exactly huge between them. I don't really know anyone who tried them and didn't like the sound however. Anon's template just ticked so many boxes right there, I can't think of a better match for the criteria.

Serious question to all you dudes who use IEMs. How do those things not get covered in ear wax? Do you have to regularly clean them after every use?

>>56550779
Take time to enjoy what you have

>>56550786
I listen to and play a lot of classical music, where accuracy seems to be a must. But yeah, for anything else I like thsi comment:

>>56550801
>XR is warmer

At least, I now have to choose by 2 which are almost the same.

Thank you both for your comments.

>>56550801
My preference lies with the ER-4PT. ER-4S is indeed amazing but I feel on some recordings it's a tad bright. Not that the ER-4PT is without faults, the treble is too weak obviously, but maybe I'm just used to it.

Anyway, the XR and SR are quite close in A/B listening, on bassier music you will tell the difference immediately, but on classical and other genres (which goes deep but rarely has constant pounding bass) both sound near identical.

>>56550786
>>56550668

Just one last question on them:
They don't need an amp, don't they?

>>56537247
3 main goals are 1) to cut down the amount of hard, reflective surfaces through the use of absorption panels (usually placed at 1st reflection point)

2) reduce bass freq standing waves and nulls with bass traps in corners

3) add diffusors to reduce the sensation of being in an anechoic room

>>56550651
Bumping for this m8s

>>56550886
Nope.

>>56550815
>How do those things not get covered in ear wax?
They do. I use ER-4S with foam tips and I wash the tips after a few uses and replace them after they wear out. Same for the flange tips although those last for quite a while if well kept. Good in-ears are designed so that you can clean them. Better models always have replaceable/washable tips and filters to prevent wax from getting inside the driver housing which you can also change. And this means you can actually buy the filters and tips fitted to the in-ears, not just that they can be removed.

Also I clean my ears to avoid excess wax from building up.

>>56550857
Some measurements below if you are interested:
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=507

>>56550861
>both sound near identical
Yeah I've equalized the ER-4S to have a slight sub bass boost and the difference is nonexistent on most music.

>>56550886
They don't. You have the same phone as I and I can break my ears with volume when using the ER-4S which are considerably less sensitive than the new SR and XR models. You are good without an amplifier.

>>56550908
Fakes most likely.

>>56550908
>>56550979
Could be Chinese market as well, honestly the SE215 sounds so bad it might be worth it to pull the trigger on the 'fake' version.

>>56550979
I thought they were well regarded IEMs
What's another cheap IEM I should consider? keep in mind I live in a third world shithole so finding very specific pairs might be hard. I was recommended some IEMS by Yamaha as well but they're over twice the price of the Shures

>>56551010
Yeah it's the basic cheap in-ear response. Too bad as they are really nice to use, comfy and offer great isolation.

>>56551030
Whoops, meant for this
>>56551010

>>56550979
Looking at that measurement seems interesting. It seems like their SR has less gain in the upper midrange and treble compared to their ER-4S.

Speakerphone's comparison show them as being identical. I'm no microphone but they sound identical to my ears (PT + S adapter, and SR).

>>56551030
Everything is top tier on them except for the sound. The fit, cable, isolation, build quality, accessories.

The sound is fucking awful.

>>56551123
>>56551123
>>56551123

New thread.

>>56550108
>Kii Audio Three
It's a cardiod mid-bass arrangement. It looks like DSP is used is align the cancellation more carefully.
Maybe I missed something, but I'm not excited by this. You can deal with the baffle radiation and cabinet diffraction better by mounting a speaker flush into a wall. Not practical for most people, but it can be done.

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>>56543192
I would get a pair of k240s and they would probably match the sound quality at around 50 dollars. Cushions are easy to replace and stuff.

Anyone have KZ zs3 or zts?

Don't really need more earbuds but I'm curious

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>>56532950

>Budget
£2-300
>Location
UK
>Source
o2 amp
>Preferred type of headphone
circumaural
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
as high as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral / slightly warm
>Past headphones
HD650 / MrSpeaker Mad Dogs

Also needs to terminate in a 3.5mm jack as I'm planning to use it with a mic. Was looking at the Oppo-PM3 but it's a bit above my budget.

Any other options?

>Budget
$25
>Location
US
>Source
S7
>Preferred type of headphone
In-ear
>Comfort level
Must
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced, preferably a little light on the treble
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-NC13
Moxpad x6
KZ ATE
Sennheiser CX2.00
Simgot EN700
Brainwavz XF200
Bluebuds X