/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>56512925
>how do I find out what proprietary firmware I need for my wifi on debian and how do I install it?
>total newb here

This is probably an extremely stupid question, but do I need to run emerge as a superuser every time? Is that normal?

>>56512943
It'll tell you when you're installing it, right off the bat.

Also, you should use the netinst that includes a bunch of non-free firmware. With any luck that means you won't even have to download anything extra.

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/

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Hear me out: I recently reinstalled arch, but now fonts are messed up in certain places.

It's mostly the 'u' and the 'g' are all weird and the top of text is cutt of. This only happens in in places like google spreadsheets or the github graph view.
My gtk-theme is adwaita, font is source sans pro. I installed infinality-bundle, but I've never had problems with that before.

I searched far and wide but came up with nothing; Anyone here who can point me in the right direction?

>>56513017
As it's the command-line interface to portage, yes, it's normal. It needs it's root access to install files on the system.

>>56513065
install gentoo

why is this empty lmao

>>56513150
Because /tech/ is a consumer review board for the hottest new Apple™ and Samsung™ products

>>56513150
What's empty? Your head?

>>56513065
I believe Infinality can be prone to conflicts with certain packages. Are you running freetype2?

>>56513148
maybe sometime in the future

also, about (>>56513065), I must add that I use a tiling window manager, so it's all kinda complicated. Did I forget to configure something?

>>56513174
but you have to be honest, Samsung is way different than Apple. If Samsung did what Apple did, even the hardest fanboys would rape Samsung to death but Apple is still celebrated by their fanboys. It's insane. It's a fucking cult.

>>56513195
>Infinality
Why do Archfags always install some bloat from the AUR instead of doing it the "Arch Way"??

>>56513195
when I installed infinality, pacman removed freetype2 because of conflicts, so I guess not? Maybe there are some leftover packages.

>>56513051
I netinstalled already, it's too late.

>>56513230
I can't say anon, I don't use Arch myself. I had issues with Infinality on Gentoo, though.

>>56513217
Apple has always been a nutty cult. I still remember when nips were crying and doing candlelit vigils to Steve Jobs, seriously what the fuck?

>>56513248
? it's not
You can just check what hardware you have

lspci -vq

Or to avoid scrolling through stuff, either of these:

lspci -vmm |sed -n '/wireless/I,/^$/p'

lspci -vq | grep -i wireless -B 1 -A 5

>>56513312
sure Steve Jobs maybe wasn't actually making technology but he was good at making it pretty and selling it. So good in fact that he managed to create a cult of personality for himself.
But all the decisions apple has been making recently is probably making Jobs spin in his grave.

There's no cultish leader, there's just some gay grandpa looking fuck. Idk how the cult is still standing

>pic related

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>>56513386
forgot pic

>>56511254

First off there's no "better". If you weren't a gullible idiot who believes everything he reads on here you'd know to check the man page or any other relevant documentation. Then you would look up those flags and see what they do. Then you would compare them and see what the difference is. Then you would form a reasonable conclusion and understand the differences and their effects. From that point on you'd be able to answer your own question.

Why should I chose Arch over something like #!++ or debian minimal?

>>56513065

>installs some shitty abstraction layer hack for fonts
>complains when it's not working

Normal people use a simple fontconfig and it looks acceptable without any issues.

>>56513241

>removed freetype2

I seriously doubt you removed freetype2. It most likely installed some shitty, patched and fucked up version of freetype.

>>56513200

> I must add that I use a tiling window manager, so it's all kinda complicated
Your window manager has nothing to do with fonts. It's not "kinda complicated" because of that, it doesn't affect it in any way. Stop being pretentious.

>>56513447
>Memes
>AUR (yay! lots of uncurated software that could fuck your shit up! makebuild and make? what's that??)
>being a part of the most cancerous and elitist (for no good reason) linux community in existence

>>56513447

Look up what the important things are which define a distribution and then look at what those distributions do.
To be honest, I don't think you'll use either of those. At best you'll install it in a virtual machine or dual boot into it every fortnight to type "ls -a" in a terminal to feel like a hacker. For such use cases, any distribution will work equally well (assuming the coreutils are installed).

>>56513488

>being a part of the most cancerous and elitist (for no good reason) linux community

How is that an argument? I see it mentioned all the time.
That's like saying you're as bad as a serial killer and part of the serial killer community because you ate bread and serial killers eat bread too.

im running arch with xterm and whenever i hit the "delete" key it makes a tilda

i found a few threads online that said edit my inputrc file with

"\e[3~": delete-char

but it doesnt change it for me. has anyone had a similar problem?

>>56513524
I exaggerate for comedic purposes. Let me take it a step back.

Many people use it only as a status symbol.

The forums are notorious for being extremely unhelpful, unwelcoming, and elitist.

Many of the people that start using it, do so for the wrong reasons. They get hooked by the "minimalist", "customizable", "debloated" memes, when they don't realize Arch is extremely not those things, even from the mouth of the developers

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

If you read and you like that ideology he's laying out for you, then by all means, use Arch.

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Just dumped linux mint on this old Dell because I had a live CD around but I'm thinking about dumping something else on it.
Heck this damn thing can't even play my chinese cartoons.

Going to look for some lighter distro but I'm still kinda surprised how well everything works.

>>56513632
uninstall mint. its bloated as fuck

install apricity. it's Arch and it has a cinnamon distro as well.

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Why is Gentoo Hardened running on a newer kernel than vanilla?

>>56513671
I really don't care much for cinnamon though.
But I'll check it out.

>>56513724
i just mentioned cinnamon since youre using it now (according to that screenshot atleast)

>>56513632
>mint
So many distros and you're choosing the worst.

>>56513600

>The forums are notorious for being extremely unhelpful, unwelcoming, and elitist.
I browse them daily and have never seen that. People use the forums to ask questions and get them solved. It's rare to find a post which fits your description on there (no one bothers with such time wasting things), at least on the support pages (I don't know about the off-topic subforums).
What you described can mainly be seen on here or other places on the internet (which aren't support channels for the distribution).

>>56513764
Yeah, I just did an offline install with a live CD I had laying around, it came with Cinnamon.
I just had to make sure that everything works, so now I can look for something better to replace the distro and DE.

>>56513791
It just works.
And I'm going to replace it anyway.
What is your favourite lightweight distro?

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>>56513671
>its bloated as fuck
>implying Arch isn't also bloated a fuck
wake up senpai

I have two accounts, A and B. They can both be SSHd into with the use of public key authorization.
I want B's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file to mimic A's. Making a hardlink with ln works, but surely there's a cleaner way?
Possible solution: In the ssh_config, can I set the location of a specific user's authorized keys file?

>>56513810
>It just works.
Well it may work but you woun't get security updates for major programs since they are blacklisted on Mint so the distro doesn't fall apart when updating.

>>56513854
I don't get all the hype about Mint.
What's the deal? Why is everyone and his grandmother installing it lately?

>>56513632
dont watch your animu on youtube, your specs are too low

>>56513919
Youtube works, video playback doesn't work in VLC or other media players.

>>56513248
Usually you find out which chip it uses and search it on the debian wiki to find out the name of the driver. Then you and contrib and nonfree to /etc/apt/sources.list like described in the wiki page for nonfree and update and then install the missing driver with your preferred package manager (aptitude or apt, it doesn't matter as long as you stick with one of them forever).

>>56513632

There won't be any difference in you watching cartoons. You'll be watching them on the same website with the same, modern browser. Using a different distribution won't make any significant difference.
You people need to realize that and stop being stupid.

What's the least buggy terminal emulator?

>>56513985

Name some of the bugs you experienced with some of the "popular" terminal emulators.

>>56513985
Probably rxvt-unicode, it's very small.

Never really had bugs with terminals though.

>>56513632
Try any lightweight distro like debian, buntu server/core(not sure if that is actually minimal or just pretending) or gentoo (not gentoo if you can't cross compile because your cpu sucks) with a lightweight standalone wm like dwm without a compositor and the lowest settings in mpv through youtube-dl.

>>56514021
urxvt has the infamous fontwidth bug, which kills some fonts and also makes it impossible to use fontawesome.

there are patches for it, yes, but out of the box it comes with this bug.

>>56513985
st, but it probably lacks features by default that you are used to. It's fine with a clipboard manager and the scrolling patch. And the source is very easy to read.

>>56513985
gnome-terminal. Bloat but it deals with mostly everything.

>>56514052
That's curious, why haven't they baked the patches into the default?

>>56514052
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rxvt-unicode-patched/

>>56513913
>What's the deal? Why is everyone and his grandmother installing it lately?
In my opinion, it's:
1) just werks
2) appeal of Cinnamon (rarely use DEs but Cinnamon is clean, spartan-ish and halfway sane when it comes to the use of negative space by Lunix standards)
3) doesn't have a fucking retarded name like "Ubuntu"

>>56514113
This one only deals with the letter spacing tho, no need for a patch -1 in Xresources just works.

>>56514141
>just werks
no it doesn't, try to install mdm for example
also a distro that isn't able to handle basic security is broken
>cinnamon
works on every other distro
>doesn't have a fucking retarded name like "Ubuntu"
well

>>56514178
I don't use Mint, friend, was just trying to explain to appeal (however misguided).

>>56514049
Thanks, been doing some searching and Debian does seem like the best option.
I don't actually plan to use this machine for chinese cartoons because it's shitty integrated graphics card is just too damn old.

I just needed a box to experiment with and I got this for free.
Now that I now all the components still work, I'll try to get a proper distribution working on it.

>>56513852
Nobody? Do I just hardlink then? How bad is that?

Is it recommended to use tmpfs for portage on a system with decent RAM?

>>56513913
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/best-linux-distro-five-we-recommend-1090058

Most "tech" sites recommend it ...

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>>56514283
>If you want a Microsoft-less Windows 10, this one's for you hotshot! Linux Mint Cinnamon has a much more familiar interface than Ubuntu. It even has a Start menu of sorts, making it dead easy to transition from Windows if you've just had enough of Redmond's corporate hogwash.
This is even below reddit mentality.

>>56514311
welp he's right, it's better than windows

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>>56514311
yeah, how retarded do you need to be to have trouble using a different UI. I mean I understand not liking it that much and changing it to something else. But to treat it as though it's some important thing, is just idiotic.

The only change I made on Ubuntu is to remove boxes around icons in the launcher. Everything else is the same as it was out of the box.

Why do distro forks always manage to fuck up making a babby's first loonix? How hard can it be?

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>>56514380
why are you people concerned so much about babies? who gives a shit lmao let them use windows if they want to

Why are the handles for window resizing so small in XFCE? Any way I can make them bigger?

>>56514510
that's up to your theme
and why use handles? just hold alt (sometimes super, depends on your settings) and click-drag the right mouse button (left for moving the window)

>>56514202
if you are not that experienced but still want to learn and fuck around, minimal debian sid with suckless stuff is really nice. Remember that checkinstall is a thing.

Sick and fucking tired of compiz's shit

Tell me why I shouldn't switch to KDE

How can I find the MAC addresses of all devices connected to my router?

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please send help

how does my computer not recognize the alias command?

>>56514774
$PATH

what's the output of that

does anyone run debian sid as a daily driver here? i wonder how often something breaks

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>>56514349
damn

>>56514808
I did for a while, it broke every time I tried another DE.

Just get any *buntu, debian a shit

>>56514808
I've used it for a year now. No breakages.

apt-listbugs works wonders. As long as you install that and pay attention to it when upgrading stuff, you'll be fine. And pay attention when aptitude warns you of dependency conflicts. If they're upgrading lets say GNOME and they're halfway done when you want to upgrade, aptitude might prompt you to remove GNOME entirely. So just say "nope" and wait til later.

>>56514349
without makeup she looks like richard dawkins

this kills the boner

>>56514774
>UNREGISTERED
cuck

Also, why is your bashrc so empty? There should be basic stuff in it, did you delete it?

>>56514808
I do, usually not at all. I have only had very minor issues once but that was fixed before i could even file a bug report. And sometimes you have to hold back a package for a day or two with aptitude or apt, but this gets resolved fast too. Remember to use apt-listbugs.
This was from about a year of using it now. I expected way more problems.

>>56514808
I've used sid for two years I think and at I had some small breakages at first but then I installed apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs and started paying a bit more attention when upgrading, no breakages since then.

>>56514837
>it broke
more like you broke it

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>>56514864
you do know that image was heavily photoshoped to make Dawkins look feminine and Emma look masculine? If you actually find a picture of Dawkins he looks nothing like her.

>>56514794
zsh: permission denied: /usr/local/sbin

(im in root terminal right now to make sure that wasnt at fault)

>>56514866
nope, that's just how it was. all it had was the ls command when i found it, so i added the p1 part and when i tried to reload it it just broke

Daily reminder Debian is the universal Linux and if you use anything else you're a paid shill for Microsoft trying to undermine the democratic Linux community.

>>56514981
>zsh
what is wrong with you

Whats the most stable distro?

>>56515003
Debian

>>56515003
Debian Stable. It's in the name...

>>56515003
For free? CentOS & Debian Stable

>>56515003
The stability of an install depends far more on the admin than whichever distro flavour he's picked.

>>56515028
>for free
lol

>>56514999
Fucking trips of truth. Praise Kek! Debian will conqure all.

>>56515028
>Trusting NSAHat with your software freedoms.
Shiggy

>>56514999
Checked
>Arch and Ubuntu BTFO

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>>56515028
>For free

lmo

>>56514999
Debian is the true Linux faith. I believe! Praise him! Our suicidal prophet Ian Murdock died for out software sins.

>>56514999
Glory to you Lord Kek.

>>56514981

>uses zsh
>edits bashrc

Average zsh user, everyone.

>>56514999
>systemdicks

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>>56514999
checked

>>56515099
Checked fellow Debian devout. May your software be free and your dependencies resolved.

>>56513985
I like lilyterm.

>>56515138
Lord Kek dismissed your feeble insult with non-repeating digits fowl proprietary demon. Be gone from this holy thread!

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>>56514999
Red team strikes again.

>>56515039
>>56515080
RHEL isn't free.

>>56515065
Nothing to do with stability.

>>56515144
Praise him and the prophet Ian! This is now Dubian sanctuary!

>>56514999
Witnessed

>>56515211
So many digits. Surely our Lord and savior is with us!

>>56514999
Jesus Christ fucking stop making these threads into roleplaying distro feuds.

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>>56515183
>2000x2476

>>56514999
>herewego.png

>>56515243
>>56515263
Heathens have no power here!

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>>56515262
Another one, straight outta svg.

>>56514999
Installing Sid now. I have seen the light.

I thought this is the Arch Linux thread?

>>56515299
Digits confirm your holy rebirth into the true freedom of Kek and the prophet Ian!

How to remove old kernel sources in gentoo? Do I just delete it manually or is there tool?

>>56514999
God fucking damnit you fucking sperg.

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>>56515262
>not 8040x9980

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>>56514999
very nice

>>56515307
We're being occupied by Debqueens. It happens a lot.

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>>56515040
>>56515183
Suck it, blue.

Except look at this bullshit from 2 years ago: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761658

>>56515344
Checked. In Kek and Ian we trust. Watch over us oh Lord and these thy gifts of free software we are but to recieve. In Ian's name we pray. Amen.

>>56515355
Your dubs only confirm the royal nature of our holy freedom empire.

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>>56515344
checked

>>56514999
Ahhhhhh wtf is happening?

>>56514999
Nice trips. Debian is shit though.

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sup guys, i have this problem when using virtual box and installing any linux distro, i can boot it all up and shit but then when its on the install screen it just freezes and i cant do shit, help?

>>56515355
I have been using Debian since 2001.
Someone else must be occupying.

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>>56515340
>>56515289

Speaking of svg, how can I convert a svg into png without starting the whole GIMP ship? Is there a way with imagemagick?

>>56514999
Rolling for Arch trips to counter this bullshit.

>>56515445
change the file extension to svg

>>56515466
this only works on windows

>>56515466
I tried that, but it kills the background transparency.

>>56515475
kek

>Q: How to convert wav to mp3?
>A: Just rename it, works on window media player.

>>56515475
So this is why the web is full of png's that are actually jpg's.

>>56515524
imgur shit also likes to convert shit around
if you don't have an account, it lowers the image quality and fucks around with the extensions, resulting in animated jpgs which are actually gifs and all that crap

reddit again... DONT SAVE IMGUR PICTURES

>>56515543
The extension doesn't matter.

For example: http://i.imgur.com/mjJ0tYd.jpg
When you save it, it's a gif.

I gues for the quality thing it's to save server bandwidth..

>>56515445
Try:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9853325/how-to-convert-a-svg-to-a-png-with-image-magick

>>56515466
>>56515475
>>56515508
>>56515524
It's all Windows' fault for popularizing file extensions. The only real way to check a file's filetype is by reading its data, not by changing its name.

>>56514999
>universal
>no working drivers for year old gpu
False god.

>>56515849
natural result of over-simplification

>"the file extension is what format the file is"
easily misinterpreted. one could easily then assume that by changing the extension, one changes the format of the file

Hi guys i'm new to linux, i just installed screenfetch but it says "ERROR: Problem saving screenshot to screenFetch-2016-09-09_19-44-52.png"
what should i do?

>>56514999
Debian is shit. Gentoo for life.

I've spent a few minutes searching but haven't found anything.
How do you rip CDs in GNU/Linux? I have ffmpeg, compiled with --enable-libcdio among other options.

how do I fix web browser video tearing on ubuntu gnome?

So just what is so "enthusiast" about Debian?

It's no harder to work with than Ubuntu without PPA's. I see it on lists next to "advanced" or "expert" next to Gentoo and Arch all the time.

By default, it installs to a desktop suite full of applications and tools. How is this any harder than just using ubuntu barring apt?

>>56516037
compton

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Mint bro here to help.
I have the whole day off so i will be here lurking.

>>56516022
How long does it take you to install?

>>56516054
how do I use it? just run it as a startup application?

>>56515996
You're probably missing scrot.

>>56516070
Yeh. Need a config file, search around.

>>56513632
I'm pretty sure the distro isn't the problem with playing chinese cartoons.

>>56516094
ty

>>56515199

Nor is anything else mentioned in this thread.

https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

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Why is Gentoo so based?

>>56516179
autism

>>56516076

>spoonfeeding someone who's so stupid that he doesn't know how to search a simple thing on the internet

What does /fglt/ think about Peppermint OS?

>>56516094

You don't need a config file, you can specify options via flags when you run it.

>>56516053
I guess people are just retarded and can't read or follow instructions, which Debian requires a bit more than Ubuntu. Debian focuses more on choice, and has mostly default or unconfigured settings (compared to Ubuntu which tries to configure everything for you).

In summary, extra choices and extra setup makes it slightly "advanced" compared to Ubuntu. Definitely not as complicated as people make it out to be, and easier to install/maintain than Arch or Gentoo for sure.

>>56516198
>friendly gnu/linux thread
>hurr durr le spoonmeme

ebin rebly m8 :-)

>>56516198
kys

>>56516195
*Stallmautism

>>56516215
true
config has the advantage that he can just find one on the internet, copy it and forget about it.

>>56516227
Debian used to be harder to install for many reasons (ebin 5cd burns, driver lottery etc)

It's just an old meme, honestly I don't think many distros are hard to install any more.

>>56516195
>>56516300
*GNU/Autism

>>56516076
thanks, it works now :)

>>56516215
>>56516094
>>56516054
Ok I just tried to run compton on startup but it causes me to login to a blank/black desktop with just a mouse...wtf

>>56516385
Install gentoo.

>>56516385
>he fell for the compton meme
lol

>>56516205
I installed a VM and it's really fast. They advertise it as "lightning fast".

>>56516415
this

>>56516205
>os based on an os based on an os

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So I've requested another IP from a hosting company to add to my server (Debian-based) and added pic related to /etc/network/interfaces then restarted the networking but it does not work. Now I'm convinced that eth1 would mean another physical network interface rather than just extra IP address so I guess I need to add it to the eth0 interface instead but I'm not sure how to go about it, any suggestions?

>>56516385

lol wtf haha xD

>>56516301

Yes, and this >>56516385 is what happens when you do that.

Possibly a silly question, but if I'd like to help develop or contribute what would be the language to use? I'm guessing C, right?

>>56516583
Depends on what you want to contribute to, but in general most of a GNU/Linux system is written in C. It's one of the eldest and most portable languages, as well as the primary influence for mostly every popular language today, and it has its roots in the creation of Unix.

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>>56516733
Very nice.

>>56516733
wtf

>>56516733
RED TEAM STRIKES AGAIN

>>56516733
reminds me of a thread that got screencapped a while back
i forget the exact content, but it was something like "trips decides what i draw" or something, and the winner quoted himself

>>56516873
It's not that hard on slow boards like /g/.

>>56516893
no, but i'm also quietly asking if someone has the screencap i poorly described

>>56514999
Congratulations, distrocuck.

>>56516058
Hi animebro.

>>56514999
Digits don't lie. Well done.

>>56517000
what the fuck

Running Ubuntu Server
I have 2 external hard drives plugged in.

When I press the power button, or I use "sudo poweroff" it shuts down very quickly but both of my external hard drives click rather loudly.

Ive tried unmounting them first, still clicks loudly.

Is there a way to stop this? Im afraid of the drives dying. It doesnt happen in windows

>>56517000
based debian

What's the best way to install arch on a SSD+HDD combo? What filesystems go where?
I was thinking the root folder, the efi partition and the swap on the SSD, and the /home on the HDD.
Anything else? Never used an SSD before.

How do i make Thunar default file manager, i dont want fucking nautilus

>>56517523

man thunar

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>>56514999
>>56516733
>>56517000
This is a good thread.

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Im installinx arch. Someone recommended syslinux over grub so i wanted to try it. But i got this (pic related). Im not a linux guru so i dont kno what how to get this working.

>>56517601
What does Thunar's manual have to do with mimes?

>>56517797
syslinux is the autistic alternative for the people that meme about grub being "bloated"

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>>56516140
Well, I just got Debian running on it and VLC actually plays stuff now instead of showing a black screen with audio like it did with Mint.

Anyway, I'm having way too much fun playing around with dated technology.

>start tlp-sleep.service
>list services
>literally isn't there

>>56517797
>Someone recommended syslinux over grub so i wanted to try it
Arch mentality

Just poking fun anon, but you should stick to grub if you don't know why you want syslinux

Put in

fdisk -l

and paste it here

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>>56517954
Well shit, changed a setting in VLC so the proof actually proves anything.

>>56518011
i have no problems with grub, just wanted to try out this syslinux

So a new version of elementaryOS is out. What's the verdict?

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What is the version of

rpm -ql programName

for debian and gentoo?

>>56518190
gentoo:

qlist programName

debian: install gentoo

>>56518152
Still shit most likely.

>>56518453
>debian: install gentoo
good answer

>>56518190
Unfortunately apt is shit, and afaik you have to download a package called apt-file in order to look at the files of a package.

apt-file list programName

>>56518190
How about you ask for an actual use instead of a command usually never used by people on the platforms you ask about? Especially if the flags aren't self explanatory.

Is there anything wrong with sudo -s?

Every time I look at a tutorial or something people always use regular sudo before all of the commands.

Whats wrong with using the -s and not having to sudo it all the time?

Can any GNU plus Linux OS run Overwatch?

>>56518805
su

I created a new shortcut in vim with my leader key to scroll the window up and down (bound it to CTRL+F and CTRL+B).
Now I have to let go of the leader key to repeat the scrolling. Doing just CTRL+F works fine repeatedly, as in: I can keep holding down CTRL and press F to keep scrolling down.
Is it possible to achieve that with my new shortcut?

>>56518819
overwatch is in dx11 so no

>>56513813
Arch is no where near as blated as mint

>>56518858
they have completely opposite target audiences though

>>56514999
>>56517000
>tfw confirmed twice
That's what you get for using the best distro.
It's like a connection straight to the center of the universe. Well done brothers.

>>56514999
>>56515019
>>56515025
What's up with the debian shills recently?

Why would some one install debian - it offers nothing that other distro can't.

Fucking annoying sjw shills I swear

>>56518913
>it offers nothing that other distro can't.
Debian is one of the oldest distros around. What do others offer that Debian doesn't?

>>56518889
so close

>>56518913
Suits everyone, does everything. stable for servers or just wanting stability, testing/experimental for more of a rolling release type thing. minimal net install for your 'arch no bloat' people and easy to tweak exactly how you want it

>>56518913
>it offers nothing that other distro can't.
a good community and reasonable free software guidelines are more than most distros can offer.

>>56518968
I think I'd much rather spend an entire afternoon installing Gentoo.

Can you install Linux on hard drives bigger than 2 TB?

>>56518989
yes

>>56518945
>Debian is one of the oldest distros around
And?
>What do others offer that Debian doesn't?
Better package manager
Better and non-bloated repo structure
Better wiki
PPAs
>>56518968
Holding back packages is not stability
>minimal net install are minimal
Repos are bloated to shit, so it means nothing
>>56518980
>good community
SJW* community

>>56518190

dpkg -L programName

>>56518913
What I really like about Debian is the way they handle proprietary software and kernel modules. It's very easy to keep your system completly free, or if you need a proprietary module or program, you can just install it.
Other distros come pretty bloated out of the box and don't allow to filter packages by free/nonfree.

>>56518987
It's worth it, gentoo is great.

>>56518989
Sure, just use GPT instead of MBR. If you have a distro with graphical installer this is done by default, else you just use gdisk do perform this task.

>>56519008
>bloated repos
is this some kind of excuse for arch having a tiny amount of software in it's repos leaving it all to the users

>>56519031
>It's very easy to keep your system completly free, or if you need a proprietary module or program, you can just install it.
Free systems are a myth

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>>56519031
Based Lennart

>>56519040
No, I am talking about the repo being bloated. It pulls off unnecessary packages as dependancies

>>56519008
>Repos are bloated to shit, so it means nothing
Actually Debian has pretty lightweight repos.

For comparsion:

On Debian, when you install a package, you get the program. If you want to compile it, you get package-dev.

On Arch, when you install a package, you get the program inclusive all development header files (depening on the package, these can eat up to hundrets of MB).

let me ask again, can someone tell me how to change default file manager?
I want to set thunar instead of nautilus

>>56519067
You know, while Arch simply shoved systemd up their users asses, on Debian we had at least a voting.

>>56519074
It isn't. For example installing screenfetch will give you scrot in debian. Installing gnome-core will give you either firerox or chromium

You can clear up pacman's residue files once they are compiled although pacman 5 does it automatically

>>56519125
I'm just ribbing anon

I have a soft spot for Debian (systemdongs still blows though)

>>56513985
xterm just because of age

>>56519132
>For example installing screenfetch will give you scrot in debian.

False.

apt-get install screenfetch --no-install-recommends

You can also set that as the default behavior which is what people that care about meaningless stuff like that do.

>>56519132

>installing screenfetch will give you scrot in debian
There's something called the "--no-install-recommends" flag. I suggest you read the manpages or other documentation before embarrassing yourself by spouting wrong facts.

>>56519132
>screenfetch
This only happens when you don't read the manpage before using the package manager.
apt-get install --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests screenfetch
Will give you only screenfetch.
>gnome-core
If you install a child-metapackage of another metapackage, you are doing it wrong. Install the DE package or don't install it. gnome-core isn't the DE package.

>>56519199
>>56519179
>>56519172
It's the troll who made the "apt BTFO" video.
>installs gnome-core, removes it and wonders why other gnome packages are still there
Just ignore.

>>56519172
>>56519179
>>56519199
This is why people use better package managers
$sudo apt update && apt install screenfetch --no-install-recommends screenfetch
whereas
$sudo pacman -Syu screenfetch

Simple command- gives you no bloat and it's easy to type.

>>56519241
top kek, some people just try too hard

>>56519254
>pacman
found the Arch cuck

enjoy your bloated meme distro, your bloated repos, your bloated kernel, your bloated devs who don't give a shit about their community

>>56519254

apt install screenfetch

accomplishes the same thing as

pacman -Syu screenfetch

>>56519254

Why do you keep embarrassing yourself by displaying your lack of knowledge?

You can make the "no-install-recommends" flag default.
Secondly, that has nothing to do with the package manager, but with the packages and their declared dependencies. Do you even know what a package manager is and its relationship to packages?

Why are you even in this thread? I'm getting 2nd hand embarrassment from your posts.

>>56516733
>>56514999
>>56517000

Debin

Anyone have those cute Gentoo-tans someone posted earlier?

>>56519254
Which dependencies get drawn in still depends on the packages, not just the package manager.

>>56519310
Actually debian has more bloated repos, bloated DEs and bloated package management.

>>56519328
Not the same thing. It
1. Updates the whole system to the latest
2. Installs the latest screenfetch

>>56519330
I believe what I said is quite clear. "Simple command- gives you no bloat and it's easy to type."

>>56519360
Right, it's a combination of a bad package manager and repo structure

>>56519390
You think someone would do that... just lie and shill for arch on the internet?

>>56519406
what lies?

Do I need to do anything other than download a font to use it? Using Manjaro if that matters.

>>56519441
There is a nice package called typecatcher. Let's you preview google fonts and install them in just one click
#pacman -Syu typecatcher

Otherwise you have to download fonts in the right directory

>>56519441
If it's anything like Gentoo, no. For the sake of tidiness (or autism) you could put them in ~/.fonts or something, though.

>>56519441
Depends on the DE, some DEs can open font files and you just hit "Install". If you want to do it manually, put your font in /usr/share/fonts/ and run fc-cache. The best way to install fonts is using your package manager.

>>56519390
>Not the same thing. It
>1. Updates the whole system to the latest
>2. Installs the latest screenfetch

You're right, Arch is requires you to write less characters when updating and installing. I'm uninstalling Debian right now and I guess we should contact the Debian developers because their distro is now finished.

>>56519441
>Manjaro
noob, just use plain arch

>>56519545
>mon, look, these n00bz are so low hehehe

>>56519008
>PPAs
troll detected
>>56519068
>not knowing how to set --no-install-recommends as default
troll confirmed

>>56519390
Ever heard of unix philosophy faggot.
apt-get
apt-cache
apt-config
apt-add-repository
apt-mark
apt-key
[...]
Do one thing and do it well.

>>56519617
Arch BTFO

>>56519617
You can also do most of those things with the new apt, it even has a progress bar and colors and shit.

>>56519537
It's kinda funny though
>Installing a package
$sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install packagename --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests
vs
$sudo pacman -Syu packagename

>removing a package
$sudo apt-get autoremove --purge package name
vs
$sudo pacman -Rns packagename

I'd pick pacman any day

I saw another anon posting this;
>dpkg is shit, gotta make apt
>apt, is shit gotta make aptitude
>What's next now that aptitude is shit?

>>56519617
> unix philosophy
Old meme that needs to die. Linux and GNU are both not unix. Go use Mac OS

>>56519609
>Turning off package suggestion off because the package manager is a pain in the butt
Yea sure

>>56519677
>it even has a progress bar
Welcome to the last decade

>>56519617
How will Arch ever recover?

>>56519495
Gentoo installs fonts properly, though. You're wrong.

>>56519617
This kills the Arch way.

>>56519726
You could at least explain how I'm wrong or what "installs fonts properly" means.

>>56519718
>>56519660
>Having to samefag this hard

See >>56519269

>>56519677
so almost like aptitude? does it offer an easy way for choosing options when resolving dependency issues?
>>56519689
>how to do aliases
it's like you are not even trying

Hi guys i'm running antergos linux and i'm kind of new to it, so i came here for help.
My problem is, whenever i plug a usb in it works fine, nothing special, but if i connect a micro SD card, it wont recognize it.
What should i do? how to slove this?

>>56519741
>having to use alias
Are you actually trying prove apt is shit?

>>56518819
Not yet, need wine maintainers.

>>56519689
>sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install packagename --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests

Both of those flags can be set in /etc/apt/apt.conf. You can also use apt instead of apt-get. It's sad how hard you're trying to make a small difference seem like a big deal.

>sudo apt-get autoremove --purge package name

No.

apt purge packagename

Which is less characters than Arch.

Dos Ubuntu have something like Windows 8 touch keyboard?


Windows 8 has this thing where if on a touch screen you select a text field the current window resize to half the screen and a keyboard appears on the screen. it disappear once you deselect the text filed.

Thanks

>>56519032
The installation seems very tedious and overwhelming, so I'm gonna go with Funtoo first.

>>56519770
intuitive flag names are superior to your bullshit and if you already know every flag and combination you can just add an alias and make your life simpler.

>>56519737
The "Arch Way", "lightweight", "KISS" and everything is a meme anyway. Let this sink in: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

The whole Arch thing is a meme.

>>56519783
>Both of those flags can be set in /etc/apt/apt.conf.
Well you don't have to do that with other distros

>>56519804
No, well documented flags are superior to your arbitrary alias

>>56519741
>so almost like aptitude? does it offer an easy way for choosing options when resolving dependency issues?

No, it's just a front-end for all the apt-* programs.

apt-get install
can instead be
apt install

apt-cache search
can instead be
apt search

>>56519764
Are you sure your card is not defected? How are you connecting it? What's your DE?

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>>56519067
Stop the fanboyism shill. Don't bring that shit to this thread.

>>56519847
I don't even use debian but now try
apt check
instead of apt-get check

>>56519834
>Well you don't have to do that with other distros
you don't have to do it in debian either if you aren't a full on sperg or someone with a system so shitty and old that this actually makes a difference. or maybe if you are one of those people that bought a small ssd very early and never had any additional storage space.

>>56519834
>Well you don't have to do that with other distros

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/installation_guide

You don't have to do 90% of that shit on other distros too. That's not an argument. Different distros do things differently and different people like different things.

>>56514999
>came here to ask if I should install Debian netinst or Arch
>got answer

>>56519815
>It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare
>compared to other distributions, and >dependencies aren't made optional
whenever possible.

Well, >>56519689 ?

>>56519879
>actually makes a difference
Now where did all the minimalism meme go to?

>>56519882
Antergos
Architect

Text based installers are way more flexible and you should know it

>>56519125
>on Debian we had at least a voting
No anon, it didn't, here is better explained http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=570371

>>56519815
This link is pure evil.

>>56519894
Where was I?

I don't see any problem with it, it's keeping things simple. I don't see any real reasons for splitting packages

>>56519815
cuck distro

>>56519960
t. SJW distro user

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>2 computers running the same distribution, same packages and same programs and same icon theme
>qbittorrent icons changed on one and i can't make them look like the other one again

Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this?

>>56519689
>fuck apt, it bloats up the system
>fuck unix philosophy, it needs to die
lol what

Just made myself a nice little Live USB to try linux out for the first time (Ubuntu), not dived into it at all to be honest, downloaded chrome and came straight to 4chan... First impressions wow, the text is fucking nice man - For some reason all text looked disgusting on windows, secondly i've had 1 internal error so far... no clue what the problem is the 'ProblemType' is litterally just 'crash' And lastly i had one main question, how do i set my monitors up correctly so that moving right on my left monitor switches to the right monitor instead of Ubuntu assuming my set up is the other way around? (Also going from screen to screen doesnt seem as smooth as windows either?)

how do i change the location where windows show up ? for example i want my terminal to be displayed in the middle of the screen when i open on it
using Debian

>>56519973
Daily reminder that women matter.
http://archwomen.org/

>>56519815
HAHAHAHAAH

>>56520025
your wm should do this or use devilspy, wmctrl, or just use the -geometry flags

>>56520025
Depends on the program and your WM but for terminals there's the geometry flag.

For example:

gnome-terminal --geometry=widthxheight+Xposition+Yposition

>>56516733
>links own post
OH SHIT SOME OLDFAG WIZARDRY GOING ON HERE

>>56516462
eth0.1
eth0.2

Virtual Interfaces

>>56520007
What are you trying to say?

Unix philosophy is a relic from the past and apt has better counterparts

>>56520031
Every thread, right? You know it never ends up good for debian


My theory you are actually an Arch user to bring the SJW infection into the topic to make Debian look worse

>>56519960
>>56520031
>Samefagging again

>>56515425
VMWare.

>>56520087
>Unix philosophy is a relic
kys Archfag

>>56515425
re-install virtualbox, too bad you can't use qemu

>>56520164
You yourself are not using Unix, are you? Do you like pretending this much?

Winner thread: >>56520172

>>56520164
this, the unix philosophy has a reason to exists, don't be a pleb and talk shit you don't know

>>56520194
this one has more digits tho

>>56519738
After you emerge a font, it is available for use in all programs.

If you emerge a japanese font, for example, then you stop seeings little empty squares as soon as you refresh the page. It installs the fonts to /usr/share just like any other distro...

>>56519483
Sounds cool, I'll check it out.

>>56519495
I'd have no idea if it's like Gentoo. FWIW these are font packes I'm installing through pacman, do you typically have to manually place fonts downloaded with a package manager in a specific folder? I'd imagine it would do that automatically.

>>56519510
Ok, as stated above these were installed with pacman so I should be cool?

>>56519545
I'm most definitely a noob. That's exactly why I chose Manjaro over Arch.

>>56520323
>I'm most definitely a noob. That's exactly why I chose Manjaro over Arch.
And you choose well. Not a Manjaro user myself btw, just take it slowly, you are doing fine.

>>56520355
Thanks friendly anon.

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Alright, I have one simple request - I need you all to resist your urge to meme at me just long enough to answer my question.

How do I get my ipod touch 5g to sync to my arch linux install? I just want to copy the photos off of it.

> inb4 stolen

No, it's mine, I have the passcodes, and I always tell it to trust the computer.

Could not connect to lockdownd, error code -2 

That's the error I get from iFuse.

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>>56522014
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