/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for debian is shit

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second for.,

fuck apt
fuck pacman
fuck systemd
fuck SJWs

void best distro

Reminder to visit the two threads on /t/ - Torrents, we have new content. Also, lets be friendly people, lets talk about another thing.

What programs do you use?

>wm
ratpoison
>music player
moc
>video player
mpv
>browser
iceweasel

Debian is garbage. Stop shilling this SJW distros

>>56520225
Does void support systemd? If yes, I'll give it a try

>>56520241
>>wm
Muffin
>>music player
>>video player
SMPlayer
>>browser
Seamonkey

>>56520172
What should I use as my main desktop distro /g/: Arch, Gentoo or Slackware?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11190404

>>56520241
>wm
dwm
>music player
cmus
>video player
mpv
>browser
ff aurora

can we stop arguing about trivial things like distro choice while nobody asks and just do informative things like >>56520241
?

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>>56520244
>Does void support systemd?
no it uses runit

>>56520241
>wm
openbox
>music player
mpd
>video player
mpv
>browser
firefox-esr

>>56520314
If you're going to go autism go full autism

install gentoo

>>56520225
literally why

>>56520241
>wm
OpenBox
>music player
cmus
>video player
mpv
>browser
Firefox

>>56520342
too much time

>>56520241
>wm
actually a small shell script

>music
mpv

>video
mpv

>browser
icecat

>2016
>not using slackware

>>56520314
Arch/KDE is quite comfy 2bh

>>56520314
Funtoo! It's easier to install than gentoo and provides all the benefits with less of the hassle.

It's similar to install but the stage3 are more up to date out of the box, so you don't have to recompile your whole system to use the newer packages. It also comes with a debian kernel out of the box, that is already compiled. You can change that later (or even right away) but it's great to get started with. Once you use portage you'll never want to go back to lesser package managers.

>>56520378
>wm
>actually a small shell script
explain

>>56520444
Got the idea from horsefuckers grid.sh <http://twily.info/scripts/tiling/grid#view>, it uses wmctrl and hotkeys for window tiling. I just rewrote it to support xdotool and some other things.

>>56520515
Oh, grid.sh works also in a DE (in case anyone wants tiling but keep the DE etc..)

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>>56520569
noice

>>56520569
>>56520515
check out https://github.com/wmutils
basically the same, but ebin functionality

>>56520412
>funtoo
Sounds like gentoo for bitches. I'm not a bitch.

>>56520412
The problem with funtoo is that it isn't gentoo.
You're not a Gentooman, you're a Funtooman...

>>56520241
>wm
Muffin
>music player
Qmmp
>video player
VLC
>browser
Iceweasel

>>56520672
>>56520695
It's gentoo completely free from all systemd. Even gnome works with openrc on funtoo.

>>56520960
>Even gnome works with openrc on funtoo.
interesting

>>56521007
Hes a fucking retard both Gentoo and Funtoo support running Gnome with or without systemd.

Recommend me some must have Chromium extensions

I need to have sex (again) but I'm a hermit and find is tough to make conversation with women. Haven't stuck my dick in a cunt for 3.5 years now.
I'll answer basic Linux questions if people help me get pussy. I don't want a quick pump and dump either. I want someone to feel emotionally attached to, i feel dead inside.

>>56521007
Protip: It's a shitty unoficcial hack

>>56521052
>Chromium
why

Get HTTPS everywhere uBlock origin, Nimbus screenshoter etc

>>56521052
"open with"

>>56521039
Not out of the box, you have to use a third party overlay.

>>56521090
You are wrong.

>>56521078
>Haven't stuck my dick in a cunt for 3.5 years now.
no wonder if you word it like that.

>>56520392
>using a distro with one maintainer
why?

Is guh nome just slow or is it something wrong with Manjaro or my setup?

System:    Host: Yukari Kernel: 4.4.19-1-MANJARO x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome 3.20.4 Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:   System: LENOVO (portable) product: 41786VU v: ThinkPad T420
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 41786VU UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: 83ET78WW (1.48 ) date: 01/21/2016
Battery    BAT0: charge: 47.4 Wh 97.0% condition: 48.9/93.6 Wh (52%)
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-2520M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3200 MHz 1: 1091 MHz 2: 1068 MHz 3: 1100 MHz 4: 1061 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
           Card-2: NVIDIA GF119M [Quadro NVS 4200M]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: N/A Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 12.0.1
Audio:     Card Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.19-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
           IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 96.0GB (53.1% used) ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 model: N/A size: 3.9GB
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SVP100S size: 96.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 84G used: 44G (55%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 1.58GB (37%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 3181
Info:      Processes: 219 Uptime: 18:01 Memory: 2068.4/3839.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.1 

>>56521118
How the fuck else should I word it? Did you want something more poetic or romantic?

>>56521131
>NVIDIA GF119M [Quadro NVS 4200M]
Found your problem.

>>56521081
>why
Idk... why not? I'm not a fan of firefox. Thanks for the recommendations though.

>>56521131
>Desktop: Gnome
There

>>56521106
https://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd
No, you are wrong.

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>>56521078
>implying any /g/entoomen could get pussy

>>56521153
But im not using it

glxspheres64
Polygons in scene: 62464 (61 spheres * 1024 polys/spheres)
Visual ID of window: 0xa5
Context is Direct
OpenGL Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile 
59.628232 frames/sec - 62.774218 Mpixels/sec
55.592162 frames/sec - 58.525204 Mpixels/sec
58.027471 frames/sec - 61.089001 Mpixels/sec
51.649556 frames/sec - 54.374587 Mpixels/sec

>>56521221

primusrun glxspheres64
Polygons in scene: 62464 (61 spheres * 1024 polys/spheres)
Visual ID of window: 0xa5
Context is Direct
OpenGL Renderer: NVS 4200M/PCIe/SSE2
60.535753 frames/sec - 63.729619 Mpixels/sec
60.030475 frames/sec - 63.197683 Mpixels/sec
60.098384 frames/sec - 63.269175 Mpixels/sec

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Anyone use opensuse tumbleweed? Having a rolling release system with automated testing seems like a comfy medium between typical bleeding edge and relative stability.

Considering I could just rollback with filesystem snapshots in BTRFS, is tumbleweed a meme or is it really a good place to be? Coming from Debian Unstable mostly, I don't like Arch and I don't have time for Gentoo anymore.

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>>56521175
You are wrong.

>>56521235
Zypper is fucking awesome FYI

>>56521235
Debian Sid

Why does nobody ever talk about dnf in package manager wars?

>>56520241
>openbox
>mpd+ncmpcpp
>mpv
>qutebrowser

Is there a way to change keybindings in ncmpcpp? If not, is there a tui music player with vim-like keybindings?

>>56521266
cmus. It doesn't need mpd either, it's standalone.

>>56520172
Is it possible to install gentoo with Linux Mint Live CD? It says you can on this forum thread (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-935992-start-0.html). I'm considering it because my laptop does not have an ethernet port and the gentoo livecd does not seem to have the right wireless driver. I know mint works on it (driver and all) because I currently have mint installed on it.

>>56521289
I recommend using sysrescuecd as it will have the latest kernels and btrfs tools, along with uefi support and tools should you need them.

>>56521039
fuck off tripfag cancer
>>56521090
>feeding cancer
kill yourself

>>56520333
What's the point in pwd when [user@host wd] exists?

>>56521313
I recommend to stop tripfagging in this thread.
This thread is holy. Fuck off.

>>56521339
>having a bloated ps1

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>>56521313
I see, I will try that. Thank you.

>>56521257
People say this but I don't usually get any real data for it.

>>56521326
Do you have any other arguments?

>>56521266
>Is there a way to change keybindings in ncmpcpp?
Yes, ~/.config/ncmpcpp/bindings
Copy the default from /usr/share/doc/ncmpcpp/ and edit.

Re-posting from last thread:

Dos Ubuntu have something like Windows 8 touch keyboard?


Windows 8 has this thing where if on a touch screen you select a text field the current window resize to half the screen and a keyboard appears on the screen. it disappear once you deselect the text filed.

Thanks

>>56521377
https://fusion809.github.io/comparison-of-package-managers/
>Pacman fastest
>Zypper is feature rich
>Dnf beginner friendly
>Portage slow (for a good reason)

>>56521399
Ubuntu definitely supports touch and universal access tools

>>56521374
True. I've been meaning to change it.

>>56521436
Its called ibus.

Some anon told me a while ago how to use find to batch-convert a bunch of files with ffmpeg. I tried it, it worked, I was happy.
Now I need to do the same again but I can't figure out anymore how to do it; I didn't take a screenshot, the man page helped a bit but I still can't get it to work and I couldn't find a solution online so far, either.

> ripped a cd
> now have track01.cdda.wav through track13.cdda.wav in /tmp
> want ffmpeg to encode each of the wav files as high quality ogg

Can anyone help? I tried:

~$ cd /tmp
/tmp$ find . -maxdepth 0 -name track -type f -exec ffmpeg -i '{}' -vn -sn -c:a libvorbis -c:a libvorbis -b:a 320K -vbr on "./{}.ogg"  \;

but nothing happens when I run it. No stdout, no errors, nothing.

>>56521423
>speed measurement via plain "time"
lol
>>56521471
fuck off already

>>56521486
Well if you can't help him don't answer.

Does dmenu fail to launch certain programs for anyone else?

If I call something like Ranger it just does nothing, I can't for the life of me figure out why.

>>56521486
You are actually more annoying than the tripfag to be honest

>>56521477
try maxdepth 1

0ad tries to nanny me, telling me I can't run it as root, what is this shit, if I want to shoot myself in the foot I may damn well please to do so. The comment thread about this superfluous wart is an example of closed mindedness. Fuck this, now I have to patch it out, because these smartasses decided to remove the override.

>>56521517
ranger is a terminal program, you need to hack dmenu_run to make it work

>>56520960
Yeah, I just attempted to install Gentoo and gave up after 20 minutes of attempting to get wpa_supplicant working. The documentation is shitty and configuring every minor detail is autistic as fuck. Gentoo/Funtoo probably isn't for me, but I'm gonna be a bitch and try Funtoo anyway. If this doesn't work out, then I'm sticking with Debian Sid.

>>56521525
Hurr, I'm a retard.
Also had to change the pattern to

"track*"

.
It worked. Thank you.

>>56521540
Oh thank you anon, that's sort of a relief to hear.

>>56521536
>if I want to shoot myself in the foot I may damn well please to do so
>a modern guide to c programming

>>56521423
>Despite this APT has several more beginner-friendly front-ends such as the ncurses-based textual program, aptitude
stopped right there, aptitude is text based high level interface to the debian GNU/Linux Package system/dpkg

>>56521553
Have my hacked dmenu_run, just add/replace your programs and your terminal emulator.

#!/usr/bin/env bash

shell="${SHELL:-/bin/sh}"

cachedir="${XDG_CACHE_HOME:-$HOME/.cache}"

if [ -d "$cachedir" ]; then
    cache="${cachedir}/dmenu_run"
else
    cache="${HOME}/.dmenu_cache"
fi

command=$(
    IFS=:
    if stest -dqr -n "$cache" "$PATH"; then
        stest -flx "$PATH" | sort -u | tee "$cache" | dmenu "$@"
    else
        dmenu "$@" < "$cache"
    fi
)

commandline_programs=('ncmpcpp' 'ranger')
for i in "${commandline_programs[@]}"; do
    if [ "$command" = "$i" ]; then
        printf 'urxvt -e %s' "$command" | "$shell" &
        exit 0
    fi
done

superuser_programs=('poweroff' 'reboot')
for i in "${superuser_programs[@]}"; do
    if [ "$command" = "$i" ]; then
        printf 'gksudo %s' "$command" | "$shell" &
        exit 0
    fi
done

printf '%s' "$command" | "$shell" &

>>56521540
or just type <terminal emulator> ranger instead

>>56521536
>running a game as root
wtf?

>>56521052
Change to IceCat and enjoy freedom and privacy https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/addons.html

>>56521471
Thanks for the info trip friendo.

Can anyone recommend a simple and lightweight distro?

>>56521777
lubuntu

>>56521777
Debian netinstall.

>>56521683
you do realize icecat is just outdated firefox with a different logo and a couple preloaded extensions (outdated ones at that). it's better to use a hardened firefox-esr with custom extensions. icecat was created from a rebranding issue that has been resolved, it's not even available on most popular distros anymore. placebo at best.

>>56521777
Debian

>>56521801
So wrong at so many levels. Iceweasel may be just rebranding, IceCat Is not, it has sane defaults for security. Just disabling the pocket by default makes it different.

>>56521777
Arch

>>56521801
You do realize that icecat is not outdated and superior to firefox since all botnet configs are disabled out of the box?
>icecat was created from a rebranding issue
also wrong, you're talking about iceweasel not icecat
>not even available on most popular distros anymore
You can install any program on any distro.

>>56521777
Seconding Lubuntu if you are a noob, go for devuan/debian netinstall if you know exactly what you want.

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>>56521845
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
>implying

>>56521507
Hey! Just stopping by to let you know that sysrescuecd is up and working with wifi! Hopefully I'll have gentoo installed by tonight. Thanks so much!

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>>56521861
>10 versions behind
>not outdated

>>56521910
>implying
>implying

I got this old pentium computer and I'm attempting to install Arch on it.
Apparently it doesn't support booting from a usb device and I don't have a cdrom drive, so I need to do a network boot.
I thought I needed a netboot image (ipxe.pxe or ipxe.lkrn), but on the wiki page for PXE they don't mention those images, but apparently I just need need the regular ISO.
So, what are those netboot images? How are they used?

>>56521910
>tripfagging on an anonymous imageboard

>>56521942
>>56521930

Just filter him faggots. No replies and he will go away.

Best email client?

If I install Ubuntu minimal, what necessary things besides the obvious (X, window manager, browser, networking tools, etc) would one normally forget. Just realized I had no plan for a notification daemon.

>>56521930
Icecat builds from Firefox 38 which was released on 2015-05-12.

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>>56521801
>>56521861
both wrong. you can match all of icecats default setting by editing firefox's about:config. there is nothing special built into the code, it's all settings that can be changed on any version of firefox. even icecat doesn't cover everything out of the box and needs further hardening if you really want to be secure. pocket is also disabled on firefox-esr, as well as many other privacy evading features. it acually has more secure defaults than icecat if you really look at it. esr is not the same as normal firefox, do your research. icecat is outdated and lacks support. when i say it's not available on most distros, i mean package manager, because it's been replaced with firefox-esr. it's still available on void, but it's losing support. don't kid yourself, icecat is about as secure as chrome.

>>56521961
Nah, he is just wrong and mildly annoying.

>>56521985
>on the other hand, he is getting more annoying

>>56521910
Wait, aren't you the one with the desktop with blue clouds background?

>>56521992
>you can match all of icecats default setting by editing firefox's about:config
good luck with that buddy, but in reality users don't know what most settings even do and firefox is literally bloated with insecure settings

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how do i check out every outgoing/incoming network activity.

Pic related - Fedora sending and receiving while idle

>>56521992
>IceCat is not a straight fork of Firefox ESR; instead, it is a parallel effort that works closely with and re-bases in synchronization on the latest Firefox ESR as the upstream supplier, with patches merged upstream whenever possible; although it should be noted that security updates to IceCat
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/IceCat

So, can we end this "IceCat is outdated" meme?

>>56522037
wireshark

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>>56522027
>good luck
don't need luck. it's easy as fuck to do. it's embarassing that you don't know how.

>>56522083
Can you please stop using the qtie pi and look at this >>56522047

End the meme.

>>56522047
It kind of is though.

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>>56522110

>>56521985
hi beawesome, I just wanted to say that I noticed (You) and recognized (You) because I've seen (You) around and I acknowledge (You)'re existence

>>56522131
>16 months of updates ignored
>10 versions behind
But at least it gets security patches right? That makes it up to date right?
I bet you think Debian is up to date.

IceCat maintainer prefers Devuan https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:IceCat/Compile_and_package/build_38.8.0_on_devuan_%28debian%29_jessie

<3

Can someone explain to me why I would want to use Arch netboot images instead of the regular ISO?
If I can install Arch via network boot from a regular ISO, what's the point of netboot images?

>>56521777
Arch

Can someone give a tl;dr on the differences between .profile, .bashrc, and .bash_profile? Are those the only major config files that reside in the home folder?

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>>56521797
>>56521829
Daily reminder

>>56521039
>>56521106
>>56521238
>>56521313
>>56521471
>>56521507
>>56521910
>>56521985
>>56522196
here, have some free (You)s

>>56522248
They are preferences for your session, meaning they change things like your promt. One overrides the other. In order:
.profile
.bash_profile
.bashrc

>>56522248
The profile is usually what is read by a desktop manager. bashrc is where you put all your aliases and prompt and stuff. I don't know what bash_profile is because I've never needed to edit it.

>>56522277
It reads for .bashrc first or .profile first?

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How would I get tmps to display for tmp in an "echo every 4 secs" fashion?

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What would be more stable, a Hackintosh or a commonly supported Linux like Ubuntu or Mint?
I just want to move on from Windows.

>>56522366
.bashrc is read last so you should edit that one.

>>56522375
>"stable"
This is such a meme word and nobody knows what it actually means, because it means nothing.

>>56522385
The man page for bash says it reads ~/.bash_profile first

> When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior.

why? I thought .profile was read first.

>>56522049
Thanks.

Just one more querstion. When looking at the wireshark output - it keeps saying over and over again

Broadcast ARP 60 Who Has 10.0.0.xxx Tell 10.0.0.xxx

What does this mean and why does it keep spamming it?

https://fusion809.github.io/bash-scripting-and-the-command-line-an-introduction-for-sabayon-users/

Good article to get comfy with shells/shell scripting.

>>56522262
old an stall meme
gnome-core is not the de, you're a retard when you install a package that is part of a de without the de itself

>>56522449
Wireshark will give you too much information its a bad tool if you just want to see what kind of connections you are making.

Use netwatch to track actual connections and nethogs to see which PID is generating traffic.

>>56522491
Okay thanks - I didn't need information for each packet etc

>>56522433
Wait, never mind. That's for a login shell. I think I understand now, .bash_profile is for a login shell like logging in or connecting an SSH and .bashrc is for a regular shell.

>>56522456
I like the neon color, and is a good article. Thanks.

i have a thinkpad x201 laptop with 1280x800 max resolution. would it be possible to force a higher resolution to it? i'm on xubuntu.

>>56522369
alias temp='watch -n4 "sensors | egrep -i --color \"core | temp[1-9]\" "'

>>56522517
No, you are right with your previous post.

>>56522484
What if I tell you the package gnome has the same issue? :^)

>>56522538
You would not be able to read text, your system clock, the terminal, etc.

>>56522554
I tell you pics or it didn't happen fellow memer.

>>56522546
Let's just make sure I'm clear on this. .bash_profile is only read by a login shell, .bashrc and .profile is for regular shells, but .bashrc is used for bash only and read before .profile while .profile can do any shell and is read in absence of .bashrc, yes?

>>56522398
what I mean is that I can use it every day without a sudden fuckup or killing my pc

like I got an installation of Arch working nice and fine only for it to kill itself a day later

>>56522570
Funny how I got the same response when I was talking about gnome core

>>56522639
gentoo

>>56522610
.bash_profile is also used by regular shell and it was superseded by .bashrc, and .profile can do any shell, yes.

So I can remove a shared string from the filenames of several files in a directory like:

/tmp/test$ ll
total 20
drwxrwxr-x 2 kkb  kkb  4096 Sep 10 02:16 ./
drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Sep 10 02:14 ../
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:16 234abc.txt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:07 abc11111
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     8 Sep 10 02:16 abcabc
kkb@xubuntu:/tmp/test$ for file in *abc*; do mv "${file}" "${file/abc/}"; done
kkb@xubuntu:/tmp/test$ ll
total 20
drwxrwxr-x 2 kkb  kkb  4096 Sep 10 02:17 ./
drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Sep 10 02:17 ../
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:07 11111
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:16 234.txt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     8 Sep 10 02:16 abc

... and I can replace it with something else:

kkb@xubuntu:/tmp/test$ ll
total 20
drwxrwxr-x 2 kkb  kkb  4096 Sep 10 02:19 ./
drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Sep 10 02:17 ../
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:07 abc11111
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:16 abc234.txt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     8 Sep 10 02:16 abcabc
kkb@xubuntu:/tmp/test$ for file in *abc*; do mv "${file}" "${file/abc/def}"; done
kkb@xubuntu:/tmp/test$ ll
total 20
drwxrwxr-x 2 kkb  kkb  4096 Sep 10 02:20 ./
drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Sep 10 02:17 ../
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:07 def11111
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     4 Sep 10 02:16 def234.txt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 kkb  kkb     8 Sep 10 02:16 defabc

Questions:
> How do I make it so every occurence of the string between the slashes is removed / replaced?
Basically abcabc should have an empty filename in the first example and turn into defdef in the second one.
> If I want to replace all occurrences of character 'x' with 'y', but I don't know how often 'x' occurs (and it occurs a different amount of times in each file name), how do I do it?

>>56522660
How much was .bash_profile superseded by .bashrc? Can .bashrc do a regular login shell?

My bash is using more or something for completions so if the list if longer than the screen then I have to press enter to see more of the list, it shows this at the bottom --More--. This is pretty annoying because if the list is shorter than you expect and press enter one more time than you should then the command is executed.
How can I change this so tab or even arrows scroll the completions?

I'm also looking for a way to do this with bash instead of zsh. With zsh I had this:

zstyle ':completion:*:*:kill:*:processes' list-colors '=(#b) #([0-9]#)*=0=01;31'

This would give me a list of program names when I use completion with kill, bash just gives me pids which is not really very useful.

>>56522680
You didn't used a debian or ubuntu distro or didn't pay attention maybe? You don't see a .bash_profile often when you have a .bashrc, because they almost entirely match functions. And yes, every time you open a terminal is like triggering a login for what I understand.

>>56522672
${file//abc/def}

>>56522780
Nice.

>>56522739
pkill[TAB]
kill is for killing ids

>>56522714
bind 'tab:menu-complete'

>>56522714
>>56522739
>he fell for the bash meme

>>56522744
>And yes, every time you open a terminal is like triggering a login for what I understand
Disregard that last part, .bashrc only is started when you open a terminal emulator, the other files are for login https://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2008/03/30/zshbash-startup-files-loading-order-bashrc-zshrc-etc/

>>56522862
I have that already, the issue isn't getting completion to work, it seems like it's using more.

>>56522887
>memelord memeing again

>>56522815
cool thanks

>>56522887
Every other shell is irrelevant.

>>56522893
to turn off the more pager:
bind 'set page-completions off'
bind 'set completion-query-items 0'

Any image viewers for Linux that let me remove the EXIF data from photos? Something like IrfanView on Windows.

I've tried imagemagick, nomacs and gwenview so far.

>>56522953
Thanks a lot, I'll try that.

>>56522961
sxiv key-handler + exiv2

>>56522961

exiftool -all= pic.jpg

imagemagick can do this also via -strip

>>56522961
Not an image viewer but mat (Metadat Anonymisation Tool) can do that and remove metadat from other file formats.

>>56522543
Thanks! But the temps? And the color?

Try egrep with --color=always to force color, no idea if watch accepts it.

Also try this alias.
alias tmp='watch -n4 "$(tmps)"'

I use Debian. It's stable and I'm used to it. Anyone who doesn't like it can fuck themselves because I don't care. My OS is best OS.
>autist manchild crying intensifies

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, down to business. I have Debian stretch installed with KDE5. What are some cool things to install? Bells and whistles is fine but I'm looking for things to improve usability over everything else. Bonus points for weird stuff that adds features I didn't know I needed. I already have basics like cmus, pinta, firecucks, etc installed.

HARD MODE: Please name the newest macbook that runs mavericks and has good GNU/Linux and alternative boot manager support. I need it for the battery life (7-8 hours on a charge but I can live with 6) as well as for Xcode. Mavericks because it's the least gay but usable OSX version out right now.

Thanks FGLT.

>inb4 google it
No.

>>56523090
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications

>>56523119
>arsch wiki
No

>>56522543
>>56523033
>>56523075
THanks!
Lookin to remove the first 2lines of watch and keep greps coloring

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>>56523159
>forgotpic

>>56523010
>>56523021
>>56523022
Thanks lads.

>>56523090
just aptitude search random things.
go to suckless.org, use checkinstall

>>56523170
Run watch with --no-title and --color.
You should really start reading manpages.

man watch

>>56523183
>aptitude
just stop this meme, apt is fine

is arch a good distro? i downloaded it but I don't want to install it

>>56523207
Nah, it sucks. Get Debian instead.

>>56523207
Try Antergos then.

>>56523203
they are different programs with different strengths and weaknesses, fuck off with your memes

>>56523218
lel
>debian meme

>>56523192
--color doesnt work
Maybe cuz the grep "coloring" isnt really part of the output?

>>56523218
Debian is garbage

>>56523231
>far and away the most supported and popular non-corporate distro
>a meme
Pick One

>>56523156
What level of retard are you?

>>56523260
>Archtoddlers actually believe this

>>56523207
Arch is for kids. Listen to this guy >>56523218
if you want a mature distro.
>>56523156
The wiki works for all distros and is one of the best around.

>>56523273
Not the kind you are. :^)

>>56523207
If you had a reason to install it over anything else, then yes. Absolutely. I was tired of some of the shit ubuntu gave me, and I was just not jiving with ubuntu. I decided to install it because "why not, I'll at least learn a few things even it's unstable as hell." That was back earlier in the year. Here I am now, not a single thing has broken on me. It's easy to use after you install everything you want, because pacman is just user friendly as fuck. I don't have to dick around with a thousand ppas, because everything is at my fingertips with AUR. I can keep all my packages up to date, and if I'm worried about something breaking, I can just freeze it and read changelogs. (I never do though) I never have to raise a fucking finger to do anything. No more "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" causing something to be borked on reboot.

I don't understand the time sink meme now that I've been using it. The only timesink for me was because 1)broadcom is a piece of shit , but more importantly 2) I didn't bother organizing my sources.list so downloads took forever.

It might not be for you, but it's worth a shot. Just don't get involved "in the community" because they are all shitters.

ni/g/gas, having some trouble with debian using my mbp retina. Cant boot into debian after install. Also can't figure out how to install my wireless drivers (wl)

>>56523295
retard

>>56523365
>debian
found the problem

Anyone knows something relevant to >>56523208 ?

>>56523365
>debian
use a real distro that isn't neutered for "freedumbs"

>>56523365
>installs a wannabe freetard distro
You fell for the memes

>>56523411
>>56523432
>use debian
>lol memememememem

>>56523291
>>56523284
>>56523270
>>56523218
>use anything other than debian
>lol mememememememe

This fucking place is hot flaming garbage. Does everyone here use it ironically or do you all have so much time and effort invested into your little "trol" that you can't stop now? If it's the ladder I feel deeply sorry for you,

>>56523465
You do realise most of /g/ uses *buntu and Arch for a good reason, right?

>>56523465
That is why I only lurk unless I can help anon. I am not on the flaming wagon.

>>56523465
>ladder

I agree, trolls on 4chan are diamond dozen. They don't no when too stop.

>>56523465
Get ubuntu or antergos like a normal person.

Also follow this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook

Don't feed the trolls

>>56523465
I used debian for like 10 years and I wouldn't recommend it.

I've used many distros since and almost all of them are better. Gentoo is the best though.

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>>56523552
>Also follow this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook

>>56523552
>Don't feed the trolls

>>56523419
had same issue, compton solved it.

>>56523577
Fuck off back to /b/ shitposter

http://lighttable.com/
Toughts?

>>56523365
I don't know shit about your first problem, but you have two options for the wl drivers.

1)Connect to a wired connection and install (or if you have a wireless dongle, try it.)

2) Obtain the broadcom-wl package from somewhere else.

Broadcom is kind of shit with Linux, and debian nor arch don't include it by default, so if you can't figure it out, while everyone else is memeing, I do believe you would be just fine with an ubuntu flavor.

>>56523491
>>56523511
>>56523520
>>56523552
>>56523562
>>56523577

You are just too easy to bait.

I'm running a custom debian install and have 180 processes running while pretty much idling. if i was on windows that would be way too many. why does linux have so many more and how do they not make everything slow?

>>56523619
This

Broadcom comes pre included with manjaro and ubuntu

>>56523627

Because just as everything in Linux, none of them actually work.

>>56523619
Or he could just install gentoo and include all his firmware in the kernel by using genkernel all (comes with every module!)

>>56523365
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook#MacBook_Pro_with_Retina_display

I had the same problem with debian. I fell for the stability meme and installed Debian stable. Turns out it doesn't support hardware from this decade
>>56523609
Looks nice to say the least

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I'm attempting to install Arch via network boot using dnsmasq (I'm following this guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PXE).
I manage to boot, I get the install screen, but when I select 'Boot Arch Linux (i686) (HTTP)' I get an error (pic related).
I tried to ping google.com and then this google IP address, 5.22.190.40, as you can see in the picture.
My dnsmasq.conf is exactly the same as in the guide, with the exception of dhcp-range which I have adjusted to include my client IP address.

I'm running Debian 8.5 on my server computer.

Can anyone please help me with this?

>>56523902
>attempting to install Arch
>has to say he is running Debian his server computer for not get bullied
Is this the future we want?

Seems like a problem in the /etc/resolv.conf?

>>56524065
The DNS server addresses in resolv.conf are fine and I think that dnsmasq should look in that file for DNS servers by default.
I thought that maybe Debian has a firewall blocking port 80, but I that doesn't explain why I can't ping google.

I just noticed, here >>56523902 in the picture it says
>dns0 : 0.0.0.0
>dns1 : 0.0.0.0
but in resolv.conf I have these two

89.216.1.40
89.216.1.50

I thought that dnsmasq reads resolv.conf by default.
How do I fix this?

>>56523465
90% of /g/ runs Ubuntu the other 10% run Arch. Debian is a meme. Gentoo is a meme. Antergos is for fags who are transitioning to Arch from Ubuntu.

>>56524330
>I tried to install arch one but I failed so I have used ubuntu ever since

>>56524330
but i'm not a fag

>>56524372
I've been a proud Arch autist for years. Fuck off.

>>56524410
>I managed to install manjaro

>>56524435
Nobody actally uses manjaro.

>>56524444
If only that were true anon, if only...

>>56524449
Trips confirm.

>>56524482
Quads even.

>>56521289
Probably can, most likely just partition your drives then chroot into it after installing the basic gentoo tools. Give it a try.

I have two applications in the /opt directory, each one has a directory of his own like deadbeef.

How do I add them to the PATH?

>>56524444
Checked and I wish you were right. Mint and Manjaro are the most cancerous fucking memes around.

>>56524627
Nothing wrong with Manjaro, but Mint is broken yep.

>>56524621
export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:/opt/bin"

Add that to your~/.bashrc

>>56524627
whats wrong with manjaro?

Are there any CLI alternatives to apt?

>>56524666
>the devil's trips
everything is wrong with manjaro, how new are you?
>>56524668
aptitude

>>56524668
try apt-fast if you want
claims to be 26x faster, has colors, etc
didn't try it myself

>>56524685
>0 arguments, just memes.

>>56524704
>the newness hurts

>>56524666
Archkids hate it because it comes with an installer.

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With all the memes spilled today I'm just having fun.

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>>56524330
To be honest Ubuntu/Arch is always 50/30% while the rest uses Gentoo/Fedora/Debian/SUSE etc

>>56524742
yeah, installers don't make you an 1337 hacker

best easy install distro that comes with cinnamon?

antergos?

>>56524785
Every distro comes with cinnamon one command away.

>>56524785
Antergos
Fedora-cinnamon
Korora
Manjaro-cinnamon
Mint

>>56524793
Yeah I meant for an installer. I sort of enjoy deb since it's more stable but I guess arch with AUR is fine and antergos wroks swell out the box. No other deb style installers have cinnamon?

>>56524779
>ubuntu
what, I only see debian and arsch scrots in /fglt/
reeks of shilling

That's it, I'm going to a source based distro. Fuck everything, I install too much from source.

>>56524781
I think running 10 commands to install Arch doesn't make you 1337 either.

>>56524816
Not him. I havent use dlinux much in the past couple years

But I must say. debian has turned to poop

I am down for ubuntu or arch/antergos desu

debian is messy now. they need a change but I still respect them

>>56524816
Debian really is a meme, 5-7 overly vocal autists scream their ass off about it.

I remember seeing debian userbase is just a vocal minority in recent polls

/g/ = Ubuntu (servers) and Arch (desktops)

>>56524849
Do it. It's very nice. it also doesn't take as long as some would have you believe. Once you're all setup it's smooth sailing.

>>56524854
What 10 commands? :^)

>>56524883
Gentoo on both though

>>56524883
a) crap is always popular

b) /g/ = Windows, it's sad, but true

>>56524905
>he actually installed gentoo

>>56524912
>he thinks gentoo is a meme

>>56524898
pacman -Syu

>>56524893
How difficult is to make a package for gentoo if it doesn't have the one I am looking for?

>>56524906
Beg to differ. *buntus are just superior debian

>>56524925
>I only know about one command

>>56524938
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Basic_guide_to_write_Gentoo_Ebuilds

>>56524940
*buntus are made by a company that activly destorys the linux community by selling ubuntu as just ubuntu, porting it to windows 10, shilling proprietary software and with the amazon lense they were the first who brought spyware into linux

>>56524966
thanks

>>56524973
>porting it to windows 10
bash a GNU package, it's not really a new thing that bash works in windows

>>56525000
Well you can actually run full Ubuntu with all linux programs in Windows 10, not bash only. An anon 2 threads ago posted a screenshot.

>>56525016
coLinux

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>>56524940
>one command

>>56525027
So what 10 commands?
Show me I'm very new :^)

>>56524816
Newbs are too embarassed to post scots of their poorly riced Ubuntu. Debian autists are few in number, but constantly remind us of their presence. At one point there were 2-3 of them who simply jerked their shit 24/7 for weeks on end. No idea what that was about.

But yeah, there are non-ubuntu and non-arch users here, but Ubuntu and Arch are far and away the most used. Misc. other distros are probably fighting for the last 10% of the pie, if that.

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>>56525041
jesus fuck you are dense.
i'm not that guy. i was just saying pacman -Syu to be a smart ass. it's 10 characters, implying it's the only 10 commands you need to install arch. of course you need more, but i was trying to be funny. which i failed at, and you're too dumb to pick up on it. just forget i said anything.

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>>56525041

does debian testing ISo have cinnamon as desktop option?

>>56525073
>reading responses
>2016

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>>56524849

>>56525076
lel, it's actually just ~10 cmds

>>56525121
And when you're done, you're one of the cool toddlers.

>>56525092
>.gif
>not animated
kys

>>56525133
>He actually had to download an instruction video
kek

>>56525058
>tfw actually use both ubuntu and Arch

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Seamonkey is comfy

>>56525058
Linux newfa/g/ here. Confirming this. I never post screens because i'm using Ubuntu/Unity defaults. I tried Arch and ricing but I am too lazy to keep a rolling desktop stable.

>>56525267
Take it easy anon. Don't tweak your distro too much and move on with your usual tasks

t. Archfag

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>>56525257
How much vertical space have you wasted there? Looks like someone's grandma's Internet Explorer with about 10 different search bars.

>>56525289
>t.
>one anon constantly trying to force this meme

>>56525448
It's called "ease of use" retard

>>56525538
It's also called "a waste of space" grandma

>>56525558
Let's see your browser

>>56525558
>ease of use = waste of space
Running low on IQ?

>>56525289
I have become extremely comfy with Ubuntu/Unity default settings. Even changing the background makes me uncomfortable now. I need that warm pink glow of acceptance.

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>>56525581
>>56525567
>I need to use all this vertical space for it to be easy to use

>>56525612
>unemployed
>NEET WM
>No bookmarks bar
>No page navigation bar
Just as I suspected

>>56525644
>unemployed
nope
>NEET WM
it's kde you retard
>No bookmarks bar
Why? Bookmarks are one key press away
>No page navigation bar
Why? Navigation is one key press away
>I don't know what I'm looking at
Why do this to yourself anon?

>>56525660
>one key press away
Most people use the browser, instead of setting up shortcuts

>>56525685
I didn't set up anything.
>Most people
That's not much of a bar to set. Most people don't use linux. Most people don't browse /g/ on a Friday night.
>I don't understand what I'm looking at

>>56525593
>Even changing the background makes me uncomfortable

Jesus fucking Christ. How autistic are you?

>>56525702
>I didn't set up anything.
>That's not much of a bar to set.
Pic one retard

>>56525716
pick*

>>56525716
>I installed an addon
>all this set up
>installing an addon makes you clever
Interesting logic hun.

>>56525736
>Where is bookmarks tab
>"One click away"
>People don't waste time setting them up
>>>"addon"
0/10

>>56525702
Most people aren't as retarded as you

>>56525764
>click install
>so much wasted time
lel
>I'll install a whole new browser with half the screen taken needlessly

>>56525779
>feel da burn

>>56525781
Wow such an autism overflow

>Hides bookmarks bar
>Hide page navigation controls
>Hides browser menu bar

>"I didn't set up anything"
>""addon""

Are you even in the same page?

>>56525806
>I don't understand what I'm looking at
This is getting embarrassing.

>>56525816
>I don't understand what I read
Autism

>>56525823
I didn't hide anything anon, I installed an addon. That's it.
I don't think it's me who can't read.

>>56525841
Where the fuck did the topic of addon even come from?

>>56525853
>all that time wasted
nice backpedalling

>>56525864
Yeah for getting rid of all menu bars - which most non-autistic browsers ship with by default

>>56525881
Why? It's quicker and easier to use than using the mouse.

>>56525706
I own exactly seven shirts that I wash weekly and wear them in the same order every week. I also wear one pair of khakis to work all year round until they tear because I hate deciding which pants to wear to work.

Pretty bad desu. I want off this autism.

>>56525974
What the hell did I just read?

-> >>56526368

The only thing keeping me away from Linux is the fact that it's so damn difficult to install LaTex.
I tired it a few months ago and there were so many fucking steps and errors I just gave up and came back to windows.

Any one care to give an advice? Keep in mind I am a physicist pleb. The only thing I know how to do is sudo-apt get install.

Thank you!

why is debian considered a more advanced distro? what makes it so much harder than ubuntu. also how easy are nvidia drivers to install in debian. apparently on manjaro its one command to get them going?