/hpg/ - Headphone General

NOT SO FAST IPHONE FAGGOTS

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A little early anon but I'll forgive you... this time.

Didn't get any responses last thread so here we go again. Looking to buy a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 Ohm and I'm thinking I'll get the E10K with it, is it the best bang for the buck or should I opt for something else?

>Budget
£500 ($660), but I'm willing to go up to around £600 ($800) if they are worth it.
>Location
UK
>Source
Mainly my computers and laptops
>Preferred type of headphone
Open; I'll be using them inside only
>Comfort level
Comfy but not at the expense of sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to warm
>Past headphones
Nothing fancy

>>56500181
Pretty much yes. Maybe the Dragonfly Black if you want something extremely portable

>>56500095
Can someone tell me why I don't like carrying my Senheisers out and about with me, but I don't mind carrying around my Audiotechnicas

>>56500181
It's a solid choice.
>>56500232
Sennheiser HD650 fits the bill.

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>>56500095
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

Is SE HD25 still good?

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Is it OK to connect my speakers to my headphone amp/dac unit?

So essentially my speakers amplify the signals from my headphone amp/dac combo.

This configuration allows me to play my speakers and headphones in parallel amplifying the same signal.

I am wondering most of all if it degrades the sound quality in anyway? Or if its supposed to? I dont think it does and have not heard a difference.. pic related

Couldnt find shit on the internet, only something bout double amping and think thats something else

>>56500273
Just stop

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>>56500095
Portable superiority.

>>56500232
Oppo PM-2

>>56500329
See >>56500052

>>56500232
I'll go with HD 650. Your budget allows an amplifier easily if it's needed but it necessarily isn't. The headphones fit the criteria too well.

>>56500273
Kill yourself.
>>56500309
Yes. I'd get the HD25 Plus. Comes with some really nice accessories.
>>56500346
>foam
Faggot, triple flange master race here.

>>56500387
What amp would you recommend out of curiosity?

>>56500398
What is wrong with foam? I was under the impression that it was generally better than normal tips as long as you were prepared to replace them every now and then?

>>56500398
Foam is better for everything, except durability. Thank god I'm not poor.

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>>56500376
ohh thanks, do you know if the FX Audio X6 is the line out or pre out? If it helps my PC volume doesnt do anything, 5% or 100% it still plays at the same volume which leads me to believe its line out?

Here is a pic to show back of my dac/headphone amp. I know this doesnt matter at this stage but curious for learning cheers.

>>56500346
do you really have an s7 edge? how is its audio output quality?

>>56500265
>>56500267
Thanks!

>>56500478
>FX Audio X6
It says on the specs that it has Line level output: RMS 2V, so it's a line-out.

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I am trying to find a good pair of wireless headphones for an okay price. I know, I know, wireless. I just really dislike dealing with a cord.

I had Sennheiser 180s but they won't sync for me anymore. I was looking at a couple of pairs at my local best buy. There's a 150 maple buck pair of Sony headphones but I honestly don't know how to trust or believe reviews.

Any review I look at, for even with headphones, a lot of people will complain about sound quality and a lot of people will say sound quality is great.

These were the ones I was looking at specifically. Was wondering if g had an opinion.
MDRRF985RK

>>56500181
I have the exact same setup anon (got advice from this thread) and I'm definitely happy with my purchases. Got for it desu

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>>56500398
Foam is more comfy and damps the canal resonances. slightly. Also easier to get a proper seal for me. Frost dildos are alright but I prefer foam over them, even if these need to be changed from time to time.

>>56500499
Yes had it a few days prior to launch and it's amazing. Don't take my word for it though, some measurements:

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&no=52

Only phone so far which doesn't hiss with multi-BA IEMs and it has a respectable output power, too.

>>56500424
The "usual", Objective2 or Magni 2. HD 650 is a relatively simple load past the lower than average sensitivity. Doesn't take anything fancy to drive it and my advice is to hold off the purchase of an amplifier unless you need it. If you just want to get one regardless there are plenty of options. I've driven my HD 650s with a smartphone and tablet just fine.

>>56500596
>https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&no=52
hmm does this mean good? i'll get the exynos one tomorrow.
what earphones are those btw?

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>>56500596
Thanks anon.

And thank you >>56500267 , >>56500359
, and >>56500387 as well. Have some you's.

>>56500635
It's very good yes. Those are Etymotic ER-4PT, I use them with the PT to S adapter and foam tips so basically they are ER-4S with foam tips now.

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>>56500095
Wait for a bump limit before making a new thread, jackass.

598 ---> 600 + Shiit Stack = Worth it?

>>56500717
>Worth it?
Report your savings, monthly earnings after taxes and basic expenses, likes and dislikes about your current setup and your interest in things related to audio from a scale of 1 - 10 and I'll give you a personalized summary of whether they are worth it for you. Don't fuck up the scale, it's important here.

I was looking at two pairs of headphones recently, the sennheiser hd598 and the Beyerdynamic dt 880. I was looking for a neutral-ish tone but prefer bass over treble. I read that the senns were bad for EDM which is what I mainly listen to (plus some metal and rap). I'm currently leaning towards these cans but was wondering if the bass is enough and how the beyers performed comparatively. I'm also am looking for a big soundstage. For that reason I'm looking mainly at open but don't really care. What does /g/ think ? (Budget is 200€)

>>56500548
Ignore /g/'s opinion on wireless.

Your best bet is to try them at Best Buy as you said.

Canadian prices are dumb.

Where is the cheapest I can find a pair of new HD 600s?

With a best buy employee discount I can get them down to $325 but I was wondering if it was even cheaper.

>>56501007
The only ones they have on display are wired, which sucks. The one wireless they have on display is a piece of shit.

>>56501018
Adorama had it for $250 with a $15 rebate as well a while ago, that's the lowest I've seen.

>>56500707
He won't, because he's from reddit and likes wireless headphones. This is more important than being a civilized human being.

>>56501007
kys

>>56501018
buy used
replacement pads can be bought for cheap from chinks

>>56501200
Prove that wireless headphones are bad.

best dac for less than 500 usd?
and amp?

>>56500596
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=72

heres some luls

>>56501316
Audio-GD NFB-11 or maybe the new Schitt Jotunheim (haven't tried it but it seems good).

>>56501320
Great idea to have high output impedance in a portable player:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/800208/the-rmaa-rightmark-audio-analyzer-source-and-audio-device-measurement-thread/45#post_12689814

Here's this 3500 dollar DAP. Just don't load it and turn the volume up:

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&page=2&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=27

SMSL amps any good? They have a few dac amp combos

>>56501657
They're ok, O2/Schiit are better but more pricey.

Gonna get the HD 599 if it sounds better than an HD 598 with better bass

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>>56500095
>sennheiser refreshes the 500 series
>it still isn't better than the AKG K612 or K240

>Beyer and Sennheiser are refreshing their midrange headphones
>AKG doesn't have to because they are just that much better than Senn or beyer

>>56501316
It depends on your headphones.

>>56501814
Just get a K7xx its bound to be better than both

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>>56501900
Do I need an amp with a K702?

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looking for some fairly durable, comfy iems to use for running. preferably under 100USD

>Budget
400usd
>Location
USA
>Source
Steinberg UR12
>Preferred type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Vey comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat
>Past headphones
Hyper X Cloud II

>>56501945
no really but it is highly recommended, with Sennheiser and Beyer replacing their mid range gpus im wondering if AKG is going to be next and release a Proper K702 successor

>>56501988
pistons 3

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>>56502118
Is the SMSL Audio M3 good enough if I plan to use the K702 on my computer?

>>56502151
Yes

>>56502151
yes

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>>56502118
>pistons 3
damn these seem perfect and they're inexpensive
thanks!

>>56502151
No, AKG K??? sound bad without enough power. Get a Schiit magni/modi 2 or an O2/ODAC combo.

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What should I select? Yes, huehue here.

Im not sure if this is the place for this, but: as someone who takes part in alot of rough sports activitjes, I need some durable, fairly priced, and decent sound quality earphones. Anyone have any recommendations?

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>>56502276
most of your music is probably 16/44.1 so you should go with that.
the rest of your music will simply get downsampled and shouldn't sound any different.

>>56502383
This is right. Ideally your player could use WASAPI or something similar and avoid the Windows mixer and output bit-exact but most sources are 16/44.1kHz so that is the reasonable choice. The increased dynamic range of 24-bit and higher sampling rates are essentially useless for playback but probably won't hurt anything either.

>>56502255
what ever costs less, those amps are very similar just get whatever costs less

>>56502383
I only download FLAC albums and listen them on a HD 558, this changes something? That's the first time I've seen this option.

>>56502445
I use Foobar as a music player if that matters.

>>56502504
It shouldn't be anything audible, but you can set it to the highest if it makes you feel better

>>56502504
Good, Foobar can be set to use WASAPI for output, but be aware that doing so prevents you from hearing sound from any other application, it's going to run exclusively for Foobar.

>>56502540
>>56502562
Thanks

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>tfw monoprice poorfag

>>56501819
>>56501867
>being this delusional
>>56502118
>mid range gpus

>>56500952
The 598 isn't going to be amazing for trap. The bass is pretty lenient. The soundstage will definitely outperform pretty much anything in the price range tho.

880 are a good set of cans too.

>>56502613
I buy a lot of shit from them but not their headphones/speakers

>>56502010
Hd600
Pretty much fills all your needs

Hey guys do you think slight hearing loss is connected to preference towards bright / treble emphasized cans?
Since I got slight tinnitus I like upping the highs on my 558s

>>56501773
I love the schiit ones but they don't make a monitor amp and I'd rather have passive speakers. If they made a speaker amp I would totally get a schiit stack

>>56503058
Sorry not sure what you mean by monitor amp. They do have one amp that can power speakers but it's their most expensive one. A few of their others have pre-outs for controlling a set of connected powered speakers though. The Magni 2 Uber, Asgard 2, and Jotenheim can all be configured with (or always include) pre-outs. Maybe the tube amps can too, haven't checked.

>Budget
20-30 usd
>Location
US
>Source
ps4 controller
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
needs to be comfy
>Past headphones
sony gold stereo headset i got for free

looking to replace my old ones. i'm not keen on wireless. needs to have a mic, preferably inline.

Thank you guys for the advice you give. i'm a headphone retard

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The human ear can't distinguish over 60 FPS. Instead of expensive heaphones why not just get some that looks cool?

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>>56503171
I think your memes are smearing into each other, friendo

>>56500465
I didn't like foam very much, and it gives me the impression to warm the sound of my HF-5.

>>56500095
What Sennheisers are those?
Also, is it me or did the added that plastic thingy exactly where the reflective foam is to avoid mods that make the cheaper models better?

>Budget
250$
>Location
Romania but I can use any EU store
>Source
audio card but I want to buy an amp too
>Preferred type of headphone
over head, closed
>Comfort level
I'll be wearing them for hours at a time so pretty comfy I guess
>Preferred tonal balance
flat or a bit bassy
>Past headphones
sennheiser hd499, sennheiser momentum

I'm sharing my room with some other guys so I can't really let much sound out

>Price
$150
>Location
Philippines
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy to somewhat comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past Headphones
Superlux HD681 EVO

Denon HP 600 yay or nay?

I love the bass on them and the lack of crippling treble. Using them almost exclusively in the office. Not using them for DJ. 100$ is cheap. I'm willing to spend 50$ more if any recommendations

>>56502010
AKG K702 and o2+odac

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ai-101da-integrated-amplifier-with-usb-dac

Anyone have this? Will it power shit or am I better off with schiit/fio

Any pointers from you guru's?

>Budget
$250
>Location
us
>Source
Willing to buy a dac/amp (suggestions?)
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Bose QC15's which were amazing for flights but I stopped traveling, now getting tired of the M50 niggerbass

>>56502717
Thanks m8, gonna look for some reviews
>>56503431
Mirin those AKG, but unfortunately I had a o2, but it burned, so any other recommendations on that subject?

>>56503614
X2 or DT880

>>56503253
Is that brad pitt?

gettin old

>>56501200
Theres no way I'm buying used, I can't take the chance if the fuckwad I'm buying from wiped his crab infested crotch on the pads.

>>56503169
Do I need a bigger budget? I'm looking for functionality and long life, not too much on sounds quality

Stupid question here, but don't headphones demagnitize over time?
Why not just buy electrostatics?

>>56503514
Schiit/FiiO have a lot more power, that TEAC is primarily a speaker amplifier--the headphone amp only outputs 100mW/channel at 32 ohms whereas the Magni 2 has 1.2W/channel at 32 ohms, over 10 times the power.

>>56500095
Can someone redpill me on these new HD series headphones? What's changed?

I know this arent headphones but might aswell try
Gonna buy a pair of speakers
Rokit KRK RP6G3
M-Audio BX5
Yamaha HS5
JBL 305

Getting a pair of dt770s soon and looking for a good dac/amp combo.

Would the FiiO E10K be a good buy or is there something better for the money?

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Will anything happen to my headphones if I have the cord tied up? Perhaps in the longevity department? Don't want to risk pulling on it by accident as I leave my desk. Apologies and probably belongs in the SQT, but they'd send me here.

>>56503826
looks like they got tired of snapped headbands and decided to do something about it

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The new 5xx line will use the exact same driver as the old 5xx

Its all a cosmetic update

Screenshot this

>>56503720
Pls respond.

>>56503720
>>56504264
Headphone drivers, as with most speakers, use permanent magnets, as in it won't demagnitize over time.

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>>56502186
>>56502194
>>56502255
>>56502447
Thanks a lot.

>>56503058
Wait for RMAF, schiit'll likely show up with some speaker stuff.

>Budget
80-100 usd
>Location
USA
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Source
Pc with standard headphone out
>Comfort level
Maximum comfort, previous headphones have made me get headaches from pressure on my head.
>Previous headphones
Sony studio monitors, decent sound but tightness gave me headaches

Looking to buy new earbuds, been thinking about the RHA T20i or the Shure 425's. Previously had some RHA s500's and they were pretty nice and very clear and well balanced, but the sound can get coarse if you know what I mean. I listen to mainly rap and 1970's-1980's rock.

>Pls make some suggestions on earbuds for me.

>>56503169
Brainwavz Delta. Stuck with these as my backup bc i lost my good buds, they're the best you can get for under 35. $27.99 i think.

>>56500265
bec AT looks cheap and everyone owns a pair so noone will bother stealing it

>>56504190
its so timeless

>>56500273
>Wireless is frowned upon
why?

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Would you ever actually pay more than $500 for a universal IEM?

>>56506101
He's a shitposter, ignore

>>56501900
>Better bass
>K7XX
Pick one fuck wit

>>56506152
But no one ever actually responds seriously when askin advice on wireless headphones

>>56503720
>headphones demagnitize over time
Not particularly. Left in isolation, "permanent" magnets can retain most strength for centuries and longer. Magnetic domains are quite stable if you minimize externally applied fields, temperature, and impacts/vibration.

For headphones, sharp impacts could scramble magnetic domains, but the magnetization of standard Neo magnets are quite stable under shock. Structural failure: physically breaking apart the magnet or the headphone frame would be more pressing concerns.


>>56506145
>Would you ever actually pay more than $500 for a universal IEM?
Yes. For those shown, not so much. I'm not too fond of most of those.

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>>56500596
Has your S7 Edge not exploded yet?

>>56506575
Isn't it only the Note 7 that has that problem?

don't know where else to ask this, but recommend me a good pair of BUDGET speakers. i'm on a frugality kick

>>56506278
Do you wonder why that might be?

>>56506736
Is it? I don't really follow smartphone 'news' that much I've just heard 'Samsung' and '7' a lot in reference to things exploding on the radio recently.

>>56506764
>Is it?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10638/samsung-recalls-note7

How do MDR-7506s compare to M-40xs in terms of sound? I own the sonys already but I am tempted to pick the 40s up but only if they're different enough to be worth getting.

>>56500346
What iems are those?

>>56500095
are the hd 800s worth it

>>56506999
Some version of the eardildo E4.

>>56500267
>>56500232
I think you mean hd600

>budget
$159
>location
us
>type of phone
in-ear bud, wireless
>open closed
semi
>source
iphone 7
>comfort level
they have to be small and wireless and look like little dicks hanging out my ears

any ideas???

>>56507643
kill yourself

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So I just ordered a V Moda BoomPro mic because I was tired of my piece of shit Turtle Beach headset that fell apart within a year of use.

I have V Moda Crossfade LP headphones that I can use with the mic, but I am really interested in trying a quality set of open cans. Any recommendations for entry level studio quality open headphones that are compatible with a V Moda BoomPro mic (any detachable standard 3.5mm audio cable will be compatible so long as it's not super recessed)?

I've been looking at a few, but they all had problems for one reason or another:

>AKG K240 (detachable cable, but the plug on the cans is some niche shit I've never seen)
>Beyerdynamic DT990 (cable isn't detachable, 32 ohm version is expensive)
>Sennheiser HD 558 (can't remember if this is compatible, but reviews said they have a relatively weak bass. Idk if that'll make me that them. My Crossfades are bass heavy)
>AKG K701 (someone told me these were compatible, but they're a little pricey at $200. I'd like to stay around 100-125)

Gotta be around-ear, under 100 Ohms because fuck buying an amp, and bonus points for velvet or felt ear pass (i can replace this part after market for cheap anyway)

I need something for my new iPHone any recommendations?, I have 200 bucks

>Budget
~$150
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop, laptop, phone, mp3 player
>Preferred type of headphone
Around ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Velvet or equivalent fabric. I could always replace earpads, so this isn't important overall.
>Preferred tonal balance
Not sure. My only other quality pair of headphones were bass heavy, and I enjoyed them.
>Past headphones
V Mods Crossfade LP(1), Turtle Beach Earforce x12 (dogshit build quality)

They need to be compatible with a V Moda BoomPro Mic, and I don't particularly want to buy an amp

>budget
$160
>location
us
>type of phone
in-ear bud, wireless
>open closed
semi
>source
iphone 7
>comfort level
maximum

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>>56507764
Stop spamming this bullshit

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Can anyone with speakers tell me if this song makes your speakers go boomy at medium and high volumes? Even low volume it is not the tightest as nicest bass in this song especially.

I dont know if it is time to get rid of my bass centric wharfedale diamond 121s or if its the recording that had too much overpowering bass.

If you have spotify please go to 3:10 of Famine - Opeth

Or if you dont have spotify go to youtube it probably should answer the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T14BEUg9HIo

Sorry I know that this is a headphones thread but thought some people here would have speakers.

Also I have just bought pic related, exciting times my friends

>>56507677
A rope and a small stool.

>>56507764
I have to say. Apple releasing as their first product wireless earbuds was the along with the rest of the retarded design decision Apple has been making of late. What retard decided it was smart to make the first mobile audio device earbuds rather than IEMs? Did they limit testing to Starbucks? That's the only environment I can imagine that the isolation from IEMs is not required for mobile audio.

For real though what are some good wireless headphones? Even though I've already invested an obscene amount of money on headphones this year, Apple decided to pull this shit. Bose QC35? Help I'm retarded.

>>56508101
>good
>wireless
No help for you there.

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>Budget
No more than $400 USD
>Location
California
>Source
Fiio E10k
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Never tried an open before so I can't really answer this
>Comfort level
MUST BE MAXIMUM COMFORT. I have dumbass ears that like to stick straight out at a 90 degree angle instead of flat which makes me have to squeeze them between me and the driver. Extended periods of time like this causes half bruises/ rashes cause my body is a fucking pussy.
>Preferred tonal balance
I like to listen to each part of everything in clarity. I mess with the eq a bit in different areas and I always seem to raise everything to the same decibel level which then I have to hit reset and try all over again.
>Past headphones
Meze 99 Classics, Koss QZ99, Dunu Titan 1

>>56506999
Etymotic Research ER-4PT. Best IEMs ever made.
>>56507052
No, it sucks, yet most that have tried it seems to be satisfied which is odd.
>>56508101
Solo2 Wireless should be okay considering the vanilla Solo2 has a good smooth frequency response. I actually think they sound decent but a bit too much lower midrange response. I'm quite anal about sound quality too.

>>56508174
HD 600 or HE-400S both open headphones

Oppo PM3 for closed

>>56508393
Thanks for the response. HE-400i any good? It's also in my price range.

>>56508174
HD600.

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lgtss

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What are your thoughts on this? I might get it because it looks nice and has controls on the sides.

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Tried on the 598s after using the etys and Oppos exclusively and I'm thinking it may be time to switch em out for something that isn't lacking in the low end. Depending on the graphs and reviews for the new 5xx series I may go with one of those or bite the bullet and get hhe hd600.

>Budget
100$-200$

>Location
USA

>Source
Android and Android only

>Preferred type of headphone
IEM

>Open or closed
Whatever is more comfortable and sounds better, I guess closed so I don't have to listen to shitters.

>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped

>Past headphones
Shit IEMs and those Apple Buds

PS: Been referenced to the RHA MH750s but want more opinions.

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>take /g/'s advice and buy the shp9500 memephones.
>can't listen to them anywhere but at home.

Should have bought the 7506.

How would the Piston v3 compare to Hifiman RE-400 in sound quality? I know there's a large price disparity between those two but the RE-400 are the only other IEMs I've ever owned so those are my point of reference.

can iems compete with headphones?

>>56509047
>1cm drivers vs 4 inch drivers
what do you think.

>>56509072
;_;

>>56508902
>>can't listen to them anywhere but at home.
No shit sherlock, they are open back. Who the fuck would recommend them for outdoor use.

If anything I haven't seen people on here recommending them ever since the price increase.

Am I being geeked?

>>56509185
i paid 100 usd for em, did i lose? what else is good for 100?

I took the plunge and bought the meme headset. I bough the sennheiser 598 HD. What am I in for.

>>56509185
What price increase?

I bought mine a few months ago and I got them off New Egg for $60.

I originally planned to use my IEMs for /out/ while I kept the Phillips at home, but I have found having proper headphones is better nearly every time.

Also the Philips have very little clamping force which make them comfortable to wear for long periods but they keep sliding off too goddamned often.

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FLAC Internet radio:

mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Lossless anime radio for listening with top tier headphones like the SR-007. Special / Cirno Day music

>>56509389
Not being to wear them without disturbing other people:
On the train
On the bus
In the library
At open study spaces
At cafes

But everything will sound much wider, you can place distances from which the sounds of instruments come from and movies will sound awesome.

>>56506575
Don't think S7 and Edge has the issue. It's just the Note 7 which seems to go up in flames.

>>56506999
Etymotic ER4-PT, PT to S adapter in use.

>>56509047
Sure, I prefer them over headphones.

>>56509072
>1cm drivers vs 4 inch drivers
Not only are those proportions larger than drivers in real life, what's the point of this comparison?

>>56509435

I bought them for my pc in my room.

FeelsGood.

Hd650 with schiit amp?
Yes or no?

>>56508893
Bumping, need a response soon.

Why would anyone but adolescents who still live with their parents use headphones instead of speakers?

>>56509554
Because we actually have wives/girl friends

Are the HD203 worth 80$? Are they any good?

I live in Chile and they're available in a local retail store. I'm considering buying them just not to deal with shipping and the ~2 months it takes to get anything from overseas.

Can i use open headphones while recording/ using skype or will I get feedback / echoes?

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Just came back from auditioning the ER4SR and XR and, basically, they are fucking perfect. Just my personal impressions using rubber tips.

These are the first Ety's I have tried and I expected them to be bright, harsh even, especially since I am coming from the SE535 but surprisingly, they aren't. The bass presentation was amazing, not muddy or boomy in any way, even for the XR. Everything just sounded so "correct" if that makes sense.
The only gripe I have is the cable. It is a good cable but it's quite microphonic.

Overall, I prefer the SR and will eventually pick it up.

>>56509391
Well if you managed to get them for $60 then fair enough. Personally I wouldn't use an open back for /out/, closed full sized over ear is what I would roll with.

I don't like IEMs, not very good at taking care of them they always end up getting fucked at the jack due to fatigue (walking with phone in pocket bending cord cyclically). But IEMs are ideal for outdoor use if you could find a comfortable pair since they can offer good isolation and are quite compact, could easily fit in your pocket.

Funnily enough I am not happy with my closed pair for outdoor use, I use MSR7 when out and about, but its passive isolation is not good at lower frequencies. That fact paired with a bright FR is horrible for outdoor use as most of the noise lies within the lower frequency regions.

If you raise the volume to compensate they can easily become fatiguing unless you EQ the ever loving shit out of them.

Upside is that the cable is a standard 3.5mm and can be easily replaced, not that I'd need to, the angled cables provided are fairly thicc and durable. I'd be more concerned about the shitty synthetic leather headband pealing off.

I wish Phillips made a quality pair of closed headphones, really love my X2s.

I don't know whether to go for DT770 or DT880

I would get a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD, so what impedance should I get?
I may use it for my Galaxy S7 too

>>56509727
Mind expanding more on the XR?

>>56500095
Hi, wanna buy a Fiio M3 cause it looks cool, but will it be better than my smartphone, SQ wise? Also, how would it measure against a Sony A15?

Third question, Sennheiser CX-300 II precision or SonyMDR XB50AP?

>>56509961
They are 95% the same as the SR except with that bass boost. It's a subtle change but not one that I prefer. That said, if the SR did not exist, I would be happy with the XRs.
They are identically built.

>>56509727
Shame about the cable. The microphonics are my main gripe with the ER-4 cables. At least we could be seeing better aftermarket options since they are removable.

>>56507664
the 558 definitely don't have weak bass
they're actually somewhat warm and bass heavy rather than neutral, tho coming from the crossfade i can understand

check out the 518 if you're interested in the Sennheiser line, quite bass heavy, and cheap too. they don't look great, up to you how much you value that.

they still have nearly the same soundstage and open-ness that the 558/598 have, but a much warmer sound signature.

tho the pads aren't quite as good as the 558/598, so you might want to swap them.

to use your boompro, you have to buy an adapter
theyre like two bucks off ebay or ali,
they take sennheiser's weird screw in 2.5 and change it to a standard 3.5
something like this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/152185723759
if you look for others, avoid the ones that have 'solder' in their name, since they dont have the 3.5 end.

>>56510180
Looping it around the ear is a valid option.

>Budget
$250-300

>Location
USA

>Source
Motherboard/USB (3.5 is fine too)

>Preferred type of headphone
Headset, over the ear.

>Open or closed
Closed

>Preferred tonal balance
Solid mids for vocals but good all around.

>Past headphones
SteelSeries Siberia (5/10), RP-HTX7 (7/10), Razer Megalodon (0/10)

You gents probably hate the concept but I'd like a headset. No idea what's good.

>>56510476
Don't. Seriously, you're genuinely burning money with high-end headsets. There are virtually no decent ones.

Just get a good set of cans and either attach a boompro or any other mic to it, or just get a fucking desktop mic. You can but a full desktop mic setup for around $35 USD with shit off aliexpress/ebay/gearbest

full condenser, full sized boom, and phantom power
and it sounds GOOD

Just get a pair of M40X with a Boompro, or any other mid-range closed-back with a removable cable
or just buy a cheap desktop mic for ~$3-$5. it'll pick up a lot, but it'll sound good and you won't have to deal with shithouse boom mics or whatever headsets use these days

headsets other than real low-end ones, a few low end plantronics, and the hyper X clouds are pretty much all complete rip offs

How big of a difference would an amp make with my HD598s against H81M-E33 mobo onboard sound?

>>56510797
HD598 work fine without an amp, but both myself and others have found they sound slightly warmer, slightly more sub-bass
not sure why, definitely not placebo either, i tested it on my father and he agreed

other than that it'll just make them louder

>>56510797
Depending on how the amp on your motherboard is, asolutely none to a large one. Likely not much at all however.

>>56510825
>not sure why, definitely not placebo either, i tested it on my father and he agreed
That hardly rules anything out.

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>>56500095
Thanks, OP, the photo made me lurk and it seems Sennheiser is finally releasing closed HD 5XX (HD 569). I'll probably get it if it will sound anyhow similar to the HD 598.

>>56510841
not really
i used a sound meter and got them to the same sound level on a few different pure tones on each source
then just plugged them in and out without him knowing what source was what
he's was a music technician and teacher before retiring, and now days he just builds speakers and other shit, so its not like some randy off the street who listens to beets(tm) all day who can't detect small details in audio

i do this to test a lot of components
i know its not particularly scientific, but its better than nothing at all

>>56500095
Does someone here own a XDuoo X3?

>>56508902
>7506
why not get v6?

>>56510476
Audio Technica ATHAG1

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>All these headphones with a 3.5mm male cable

Get with the times, grandpa.

>>56500181

I have the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250 Ohm and used a FiiO E10 (not the current iteration, but one I bought back in late 2013) with it. I liked that combination.

The FiiO E10 headphone jack broke (the iteration I bought was notorious for this... I opened the thing up and the headphone jack had literally split into two halves). I got a Gigabyte motherboard with a Realtek ALC1150 audio processor, which seems to drive the 250 Ohm headphones just fine. I don't actually notice any difference in sound quality between the ALC1150 and the FiiO E10 (to be clear, I did a quick and dirty repair of the headphone jack just to do a comparison... it didn't last long enough for regular use).

Not sure if that means the ALC1150 on my motherboard is good, or the previous generation E10 wasn't very good, or my hearing isn't very detail oriented. I do know that the previous generation Realtek audio processor and the Soundblaster X-Fi weren't able to drive the DT990 Pro adequately.

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>>56511253
>filename

>>>/whereverthefuckyoucamefrom/

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Are these a meme?

>>56511565
A decent meme.

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>>56509632
jeebus.. IDK.. I can only comment on HD202s from a while back compared to my new bought SOMIC V2s for approx 40 bux USD.. and shit dude these somics blow the sennheisers out of the water and compete with stuff much higher. Id personally wait..

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>>56511731
>99
Celebrating Cirno day like a champ

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>>56511336
Maki is old news, Wireless is where its at now.

>>56510047
Answer my questions you faggots

>Budget
$250
>Use
Editing. Currently use Sony MDR-7506 since it's standard in the profession. Wondering if anyone else here edits and knows of something possibly better. If not, anything better than KRK Rokit 5s in that price range? Been meaning to get speakers as well.

>>56511731
they look real nice
what is the sound signature like?

>>56512004
Editing what?

>>56512080
Vocals, mostly cleanup. The high mid-upper frequency of the 7506 is great for it, but I've never ventured out to find something better.

>>56512065
nice and neutral, extremely sweet clear vocals with the mids and detailed highs. tight bass but not for people that need bass as it will be underwhelming. However the bass is extremely tight and controlled. Great buying at gearbest i think its 40 bux

>>56509028
not sure how many people have the RE400 and piston v3 but I have the piston v3s and love them very much. I dont want to spend as much on in ears as much as headphones so the xiaomis are good on the wallet and offer unrivaled sound performance compared to other mainstream offerings in the price range.

>>56506757
yes. why.

Budget
Up to £90
>Location
UK
>Source
Computer, realtek audio
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, I have big ears and my current headphones are really painful after long periods
>Past headphones
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ozone-Gaming-Spark-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003F0RYZ6/

Good quality but they were kind of small and hurt my head + ears, I just want my new headphones to have the same or higher quality sound, and preferably have a physical volume slider/adjuster and it would be great if I could just plug it into the headphone port with one plug and not have to plug in a usb as well, but they're not crucial

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>>56512818
MDR-V6

>>56511565
What's that?

>>56513096
A loudspeaker desk stand.

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red pill me on m50x

>>56513399
Literal memephones meme meme me me meme memememememememem meme meeeeeeeeeeeem xDDDD

I'm looking for a new dac and amp to replace my Magni and Modi stack, seeing as they don't drive my HD650s too well, is there anything out there for less than 500$?

>>56513633
Keep the Modi and get an Asgard 2.

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>>56500095
>Budget
300 or less

>Location
USA

>Source
Bluetooth or wired to 3.5mm (desktop)

>Preferred type of headphone
Don't care

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Comfy

>Preferred tonal balance
neutral

>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 428

I'm looking for something to block out my roommates annoying ass blue switch keyboard. Most of the music I listen to is classical so my music alone isn't the best at blocking out external noise.

>>56513762
>>56513399
>>56511895
>>56511862
>>56511336
>>56511253
>>56500273
Paedophile cartoons to /a/ please.

>>>/a/

>>56513989
what did he mean by this?

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>>56513989
You must be GNU here.

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maybe a specific question, but what IEMS do you guys recommend for musicians? ie, stage, studio and rehearsal use

i guess custom molded is the best but im looking for something which doesnt break the bank rather something in the 300€ range

>>56513762
AKG K553 pro

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>>56513989
is he serious

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>Budget
$250

>Location
Brazil, but I'm probably going to buy it from Amazon

>Source
PC, willing to buy a DAC/Amp to go with it

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Gotta be comfy, I'm gonna use it while playing vidya

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Past headphones
ATH-M50

Got pretty tired of my crappy Logitech headsets, gonna buy a headphone with a separated mic this time.

>>56511565
You only need these if you are using studio monitor speakers for mastering and don't want the resonance from your desk coloring the sound.

I just got a K7XX and I need something to run it. Is the E17 decent enough? I can get it for $50 from a friend.

>>56514930
SPH9500 (no dac and amp needed)

HD558 (potentially needs amp)

>>56502504
Most FLAC shit is in 16/44.1 anyway. Honestly having more bits or samples is only good for production.

>>56514955
It's also one of the only universal simple tilt and height adjustable set of desktop loudspeaker stands. Helps with positioning which is very important loudspeakers, especially in near field.

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>>56513989

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>>56508766

>>56508893
MH750 seems like it's what you want.
>>56509446
Yes.
>>56509727
Where can you audition them? I ended up buying both because I'm a cuck. I still like the ER-4PT's sound signature over both but I'm using the XR at the moment for all my listening and it's growing on me, still find them a tiny bit bright however.
>>56510900
I hope the impedance vs FR isn't retarded on this one, but most likely it'll be the same as the HD558/HD598.
>>56513762
For passive isolation, HD280 Pro, HD25 Plus. For noise cancelling, Bose headphones are considered the best.
>>56514361
M6 PRO or Shure SE315.

598 ---> 600 + Shiit Stack = Worth it?

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How do you guys feel about AKG 550's? I've always had a huge boner for how they look. But I have AKG 701's and wasn't that impressed by the build quality (get what you pay for, I guess). So I'm a little hesitant to get AKG again and might consider trying out Sennheiser instead.

>>56500095
Thinking of getting my first portable cans with this new line of Sennheiser

I'll put up a form in a bit

>>56500596
How does the sound compare to HTC 10

>>56515397
>Worth it?
Report your savings, monthly earnings after taxes and basic expenses, likes and dislikes about your current setup and your interest in things related to audio from a scale of 1 - 10 and I'll give you a personalized summary of whether they are worth it for you. Don't fuck up the scale, it's important here.

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>>56515413
>wasn't that impressed by the build quality
>consider trying out Sennheiser instead.

>>56515476
I'm new to headphones, please be nice.

>>56514961
yes

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>Budget
£200 (Cheaper alternatives are fine too)

>Location
UK

>Source
PC, willing to buy a DAC/Amp to go with it

>Open or closed
Not that bothered

>Comfort level
Comfy as possible


>Past headphones
Logitech 6930

To sum up, would just like a headset with a separated mic while playing games that has high quality sound, Thanks!!

Are there any decent headphones you can try in best of buy?

Budget: Up to $150 USD

Location: Southern California, USA

Source: Almost exclusively my PC, though sometimes my laptop or smart phone

Preferred type: Full (I already have an okay IEM)

Open or Closed: Either is fine, though I suppose I'd prefer closed

Comfort level: I don't mind some discomfort, but I don't want to be removing it every hour or so to massage the cartilage in my ear, either. Sound quality is key.

Tonal Balance: I've been enjoying brighter treble recently, so that, neutral, or a good V-curve is great

Past headphones: I've mostly used IEMs before, but I had a pair of Sony Mdr-E10Lp with surprisingly good sound. My current IEMs are Shure SE112, which are okay but have the classic rubberhead earbud problem of getting muted by earwax. Any full headphones I've used before have been no-names or early wireless models.

>>56515397
HD600 is better but it's not a massive leap in quality.
>>56515413
Terrible headphones IMO. Inconsistent fit which causes bass problems for many listeners. Consider other closed solutions.
>>56515527
Sennheiser PC 373D

>>56515545
It varies by store, but yes you can find some decent options to try there.
>>56515550
MDR-V6 or MDR-7506.

Looking for an amp to power my dt 770s coming soon. Budget is $150, any suggestions?

>>56515545
MSR7, Fidelio X2, HDH50

>>56515303
really I heard bose headphones were a meme? I've tried them and they are really good but I wasnt sure if they were worth the 300.

>>56515552
Thanks, one question though, is the sound quality different between say Sennheiser PC 373D and another Sennheiser headset that isn't for gaming? Also is there one similar to the Sennheiser PC 373D that is closed, I know I said I wasn't bothered but just looking at all the options. Thanks again :)

>>56515590
O2, Magni.
>>56515631
They are but their noise cancelling is the best in the industry. Not really a fan of Bose but headphones with high passive isolation tend to be uncomfortable because of their clamping force.

>>56515574
Why is the 7506 cheaper if it's the professional version? Is it cut back in some way?

>>56515650
No difference, you're paying for the all in one package.

GAME ZERO is the closed variant.

>>56515693
They're the same thing, wiring is slightly different but it doesn't make a difference in sound. Any differences you hear with modern V6s and 7506s are due to product variance.

Just get whatever is cheaper.

>>56515693
http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/mdr-v6.htm
http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/mdr-7506.htm

>>56515737
It's not just cheaper, it's like $20 cheaper. Anything else I'd chalk up to demand or marketing whim, but if the differences are meaningless and they both function on a computer then I've no complaints.

>>56513399
if you're gonna listen to weeb music its a pretty good choice
it's tonal balance is a neutral-ish V shape
hard to beat at the current price they're at

>>56513399
Muddy bass, poor build quality, awful stock earpads
Takstar Pro 90's sound better, and are cheaper if you can find them. (or the cloud cores)

>>56515069
fairly certain all headphones need a dac, mate

>>56515476
new senn build quality has improved
the old ones crack almost as much as m50's tho

>>56515668
thanks. Quality is more important than cost to me.

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>>56515413
I have these and they aren't bad. I usually keep them for wearing in bed as they are comfortable and if I fall asleep and break them it's not expensive to replace them. They are as close to a closed K7-- as your going get at the moment. Like most AKG products these days, they are made in China, which does effect the build quality. The design itself is quite sturdy and don't don't feel fragile to hold or wear. In Europe you can find them for around £100, in the US they are more expensive and not worth the price.

Does it matter what sample rate I choose for my DAC?

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>>56515434
This is a transparent source and HTC 10 likely is too on any load you'd likely plug into it. I won't claim to hear differences when the performance is this level and frankly, I don't believe anyone can. HTC 10 seems to have rather average IMD performance when loaded but other than that, its is more or less on par with this.

>>56515275
Enjoyed a crap out of that VN.

>>56515413
You really ought to have a listen before you buy. They have issues with achieving proper seal, bass quantity varies a lot from person to person. They go from being V-shaped to bright and having no bass at all. See pic related, from the "Improved Measurement of Leakage Effects for Circum-aural and Supra-aural Headphones".

Selling an old DAC/Amp on ebay, what's the best way to package this thing without being a pain in the ass or expensive? I don't have the old packaging it came in anymore. Is wrapping it in a shitload of bubble wrap good enough?

>>56516571
soft foam and then bubblewrap
depends how large it is
package insurance might help

>>56516571
Make sure it can't move too much, and that the switches, volume pot are protected from shocks. Bubble wrap is good. Little foamy things are practical if you have those, and if you have free space left, add more bubble wrap, cardboard, paper, whatever to fill it.

Source: have sold stuff for years with stellar ratings.

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>>56500095
>Budget
$200 Amazon gift card
>Location
US
>Source
HTC 10 (known for a more powerful phone DAC?)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized. Will consider IEM if especially good
>Open or closed
Closed b/c these are for on the go
>Comfort level
Good for use on the go whether the bus to university or sitting around in university
>Preferred tonal balance
Not sure but I listen to classical music and recently Ali project which is classical music combined with Jpop
>Past headphones
PC 363d my decent Sennheiser gay men headphones. Have been very durable, even crushing them would not produce a snappheiser or any broken mic. Music sounds nice on them, including the large variety of lossless music you see in some games.

Must have inline controls. Many tracks downloaded are FLAC and easily fit on my 128gb SD card. University on-the-go use.

-----
I have seen Sony MDR7506 recommended for my situation, perhaps knowing the HTC 10 has a "decent" DAC full size cans will work. I am only skeptical of these hearing they will give you sharp sounds. I am not trying to get the studio experience, this is enjoyment listening of my shitty tunes though clarity is appreciated for some of the genres and rap will never be for me.

Really like the look of the new Snappheiser mobile line like HD 4.3 https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headphones-headset-stereo-over-ear-hd-4-30 advertising decent sound and comfort + inline controls + "on the go durability". The aesthetic of Momentum series/4.3 is great.

>>56517053
>https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headphones-headset-stereo-over-ear-hd-4-30
>Some like it black

Sennheiser owners confirmed for cucks.

>Budget
200€
>Location
Germany
>Source
USB audio interface
>Preferred type of headphone
I have glasses, so best would be a comfortable over ear headphone
>Open or closed
I guess closed
>Comfort level
max pls
>Preferred tonal balance
Should be a good allrounder as what I listen to depends on my mood
>Past headphone
none that I could compare

Any way to prevent IEMs from clogging up with wax after continued use? Maybe my ears are just exceptionally waxy or something but I find this happening after even just a few hours, to the point that sound quality is noticeably diminished until I pry off the little grille and clean behind it.

>>56517496
I'd say beyerdynamic DT 250.

Hello guys
What can I get to replace my lost Xiaomi Piston 3.
You know balanced but bass but the most important... cheap

Sennheiser HD 650's or Hifiman HE400s? I've read that the latter is a little better; does anyone have any experience with them?

>>56517711
Completely subjective. HE-400S has steeper bass roll off and overall more uneven response. It is easier to drive. I prefer HD 650 here and HD 600 over both.

Hesitating between 3 AKG headphones. What do you guys think which one is better? Mostly using it with phone.
K512 vs K72 vs K92

>>56517566
>beyerdynamic DT 250
I'll have a look at them thx!
I wish I could test some somewhere... all the stores only have beats etc

>>56517566
> on ear

>>56517788
You can buy them from Amazon, they let you return them for a month or so just because you don't like them.

>>56517834
Can confirm this, did it 3 times. I think I'll be banned if I do it again.

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Quick, tell me the best open headphones you can think of, below $250!

>>56517927
HD558
SHP9500
Used HD600?

>>56517927
AKG K702

>>56517927
DT 880

>>56517927
K612

>>56517927
HD 558 or used HD 600
DT880

>>56517948
No bass.

>>56500707
>wait for bump limit
>not waiting for thread falling off page 10
You disgust me.

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Is there any shop that sells Oppo PM3 in EU? I'm in dire need of new closed headphones and I've been looking for hours without finding even single one. Amazon doesn't ship outside of UK.

Also I can take recommendations for similar headphones from same price range.

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>>56518007
>>56517947
Why not the 598?

>>56518104
Well as it's basically identical to HD 558, it should be mentioned there too. Just a bit more expensive version of it which is why people here generally don't recommend it over the cheaper HD 558.

>>56518088
audeze sine?

>>56512755
I wonder if it might be because there are no good wireless headphones. . .

>>56518216
That's ridiculous. The problem in these threads is just the lack of knowledge and documented performance of wireless headphone models to recommend.

>>56518164
I've heard that they get pretty uncomfortable after some time. Also I'm not that hyped about sines being made for iphone.

>>56503843
Embrace the meme.


JBL's

>>56503843
only the hs5 there could compare to the lsr305

krks and m-audios are all objectively trash

>>56518277
>That's ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous?

>the lack of knowledge and documented performance of wireless headphone models
Arguing from ignorance? There MUST be some models that can be recommended just because you assume there are? It isn't possible that the collective experience and all indicators we have does not indicate that there are not any?

>>56518365
>hs5
Garbage, has a nasty 1kHz peak.

>>56518380
well they were clearly going for replicating the NS10 sound. either way they still aren't anywhere near as terrible as the KRKs and M-Audios

>>56517744
anyone?

>>56518277
Yeah, wireless is the way to go! Just like how WiFi is loads better than Ethernet!

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>>56503843
you can live the comfy life too

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>>56518021
Maybe the sub-bass is a little weak, but I wont call them "no bass". It's even a little better than the HD 600's bass.
I'm sure the AKG K702 is a good headphone. If anyone wants better bass, then he should look for closed headphones.

>>56518369
>Why is it ridiculous?
Because I've seen plenty of nice measuring wireless headphones, heard quite a few in person and seen other people like them too. Them being wireless doesn't have a correlation with sound quality or with anything else for that matter. It's just a trait they have and I have trouble seeing what is the big deal here every time.

As a remainder, headphone quality is not judged by sound quality alone. A poor sounding headphone could be a great headphone to a person who doesn't care about that aspect but cares about other redeeming aspects of a said headphone such as comfort, in-line mic, wireless, isolation, light weight, ANC, foldable construction, replaceable parts etc etc.
>There MUST be some models that can be recommended just because you assume there are?
Not the argument I make but with the plethora of different models out there under an umbrella term "wireless" I'd say that is more than a safe assumption.
>It isn't possible that the collective experience and all indicators we have does not indicate that there are not any?
Sure would be but I'm not seeing that "collective experience" and what indicators? People who oppose wireless out of principle in the fear that their signal integrity is compromised? People who unironically add those lines to OP but can't present a single argument against the technology? Audiophiles who are unreceptive to any new technology which transfers or alters an audio signal?

>>56518546
Yeah fuck those pesky Wi-Fi networks. What a pain in the ass. We should just have one option: cables and nothing else. I'd much rather search for public ethernet access for my phone, connect(reconnect) my laptop in my very well laid out local ethernet network around my house and spool up some cable to toilet when I want to watch shit on a tablet. I think I should give up on hands-free in-car Bluetooth too and destroy all but one of my game pads. Who needs remotes? Wireless is literal cancer.

>>56518636
nobody takes the overdamped k702 measurements from headroom seriously. please stop using them for comparisons.

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Are these worth getting if I have a bluetooth adapter for my PC?

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/bose-bose-quietcomfort-35-over-ear-noise-cancelling-wireless-headphones-black-quietcomfort-35-blk/10424241.aspx?path=07f51e0452394973343f5b6dca70b9d1en02

>>56518831
[citation needed]

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>>56518850
every other measuirement of akg headphones shows the tinny upper midrange hump and bright signatures they have.

meanwhile headroom have the only measurements on the internet (and innerfidelity as they're the same set of measurements) that show any 7 series akg headphone coming close to being neutral.

>>56518897
tinny and veiled: the headphone

>>56518897
Head Acoustics HMSII.3 is part to blame on those poor Headroom measurements.

>>56518951
How so?

Headroom's measurements are quite good and it uses DF.

>>56518985
>>56518985
>>56518985

New thread.

>>56518897
K702 are bad but not for the reasons on that pic, Golden ears uses an x curve so it overstates treble response

>>56518848
Yes. The noise cancelling is god tier.

>>56517686
HJE120

>>56518806
No one is saying wireless is bad. Just that hard connections are always better. Why are you sperging out so much? It's common knowledge that anything wired is going to have better results compared to wireless. You mention remotes for TV's. Hell, if they were wired you wouldn't even need to point them at the TV or receiver. Sure, wireless is more, "convenient" but that's all wireless gets you. Convenience over performance.

>>56518806
>Because I've seen plenty of nice measuring wireless headphones
Stopped reading here.
It seems you are lying. Either you lied when you said
>the lack of . . . documented performance of wireless headphone models
Or you are lying now in claiming you have seen
>nice measuring or "documented performance" of wireless headphones.

I'd also like to see a link to these "nice measuring wireless headphone."

>As a remainder, headphone quality is not judged by sound quality alone
Wrong. EVERY headphone is judged by sound quality alone. It is the ONLY objective standard to judge a headphone on. Subjectively choosing to disregard it is an individual choice but that does not make a terrible headphone any less of a terrible headphone. It just means one person is willing to compromise.

>>56519139
Not him but LG tone bluetooth headsets measure superb.

>>56518897
Nice job at picking the worst graphs around ;)

>>56519245
fuck off CG

>>56519139
>Wrong. EVERY headphone is judged by sound quality alone. It is the ONLY objective standard to judge a headphone on.
Not him but things like clamping force and such can be measured too.

>>56519223
Link?

>>56519262
Both Headroom and Innerfidelity and Rin Choi have better measurements.

>>56519279
>56519279
Straw man? There was no claim there other things that can be measured?

>>56519297
Rin Choi yes, the other two no. Tyll's compensation is terrible.

>>56519139
>Wrong. EVERY headphone is judged by sound quality alone.
[citation needed]
>It is the ONLY objective standard to judge a headphone on.
Measuring headphones is still too inconsistent and has too many variables to be called objective. Try again retard.

>>56519321
Headroom is ok, as for Tyll's graphs, you should consider the raw response.
Rin Choi considers K702 as a very good headphone.

>>56519361
>[citation needed]
Fine. I retract that statement. What objective standard do you suggest is better to determine what makes a determination for headphone performance?

>Measuring headphones is still too inconsistent and has too many variables to be called objective.
Are you confusing "consistent" with "objective?" Just because a result may not be reproduced every time does not make the result any less objective.

>>56519410
Headroom's graphs are majority Tyll's measurements used with the same equipment.

>>56519458
Headroom uses DF.

>>56519442
>Just because a result may not be reproduced every time does not make the result any less objective.
If everyone has different results, which they do, whose results are more objective than the other persons?

You 'objectivist' clowns have never even measured something yourself so you don't understand the complications surrounding measurement of transducers, particularly headphones, why do you run your mouths like you know anything because you read NwAvGuy's blog one time?

>>56519482
>If everyone has different results, which they do, whose results are more objective
>more objective
Moving the goalposts.

I also note that you did not answer the previous question. I assume you wish to not consider ANY objective standard. If that is what you believe then /hpg/ would be just as bad as head-fi.