/hpg/ - Headphone General

Headphones are obsolete

Apple AirPods are the future

>Budget: £60 (amazon gift card)
>Location: uk
>Source: pc motherboard audio
>Preferred type of headphone: over ear
>Open or closed: open
>Comfort level: likely to wear for long periods of time.
>Past headphones: HD429; they sounded nice but the cable is so awful and i'm bored of replacing the jack.

i'd like a pair with a removable cable, thanks for any help

>>56471034
Koss portapro + HD414 earpads

I make electronic music with my computer and need some very cheap earbuds around 10/20 bucks.
I know I won't get much for this little, but I'm poor as fuck and that's what I can afford for now.

What's the flattest model I can buy for that money?

Was going to get the piston 3s but they seem to be sold out everywhere (I suppose they're not in production anymore).

Thanks in advance.

>>56471147
spend a little extra and get Koss Portapros friend

>>56471169
I can't.
Even $20 is really a stretch for me.

Daily reminder that wireless is fine.

>>56471226
Walmart is hiring and pays $10/hour fyi

>>56471226
You get what you pay for, just go buy some skullcandy buds if you're THAT tight.

>>56471236
>>56471030
no

>>56471147
1More Piston Classic?
None of the cheap stuff is really that flat.

>>56471322
You're worse than people that still listen to vinyl

Wired headphones are pointless in September of 2016

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Reminder to have good source components

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>>56471226
get a shitty job and make some money please bro shits making me sad

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Budget between £100 and 150
UK
Roland Quad Capture.
I prefer big over and around ear cans.
Open.
Sound quality over comfort, but I will be using them hours on end.
Neutral if anything. I'm here because I'm open to suggestions.
Aaand I come from meme cans...

>>56471226
How are you that poor?

>>56471258
>>56471467
>>56471663
Can't work, at least for now. Have semi-crippling disease.

>>56471268
I'm not looking for something decent. Only the best I can get for that money.

>>56471147
>What's the flattest model I can buy for that money?
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-109927-Enhanced-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B00B8QCMHY

That's the flattest model that you will get.

Comfort isn't the best, but it's super accurate.

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>>56470995
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

>>56471976
Will keep them in mind, thank you very much.

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>tfw masterrace

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>>56471030
>>56471236
kys

>>56471403
I do!

>>56472204
404 bass not found

>>56472045
Do you have any reputable source that wireless headphones are somehow inferior?

Because you've been parroting the same shit over and over without any proof.

>>56472204
I feel like some people choose the HD598 or 558 at that price point because they fear the K702 will be too hard to drive without an amp.

>>56472647
Not to mention HD598 > K702.

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>>56472205
Wireless master race.

Not really sure if this is the right place to ask but I'm thinking of getting a mic do you guys have any suggestions? I don't really wanna spend too much on it but I don't wanna buy a piece of shit either

>>56472205
whats that giant dildo sticking out of the ds4

Any headphones from xiaomi good at or below the $100 range?

>>56472205
>contacts
Stop lying!

I'm thinking of buying the Superlux HD681 Evo because my current headphone died. Is it any good compared to something in the price range of a HD558?

>>56472739
I think that's one of those...
I mean show up on 4chan at the right or wrong time and team AKG or team Senn will be on and there will be completely opposite "objective" truths.

>>56454464
kek, also, underated post: >>56454671

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Really makes you think..........

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>>56473042
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Microphones

I used the Grado Prestige Series SR60e but the fucking wire where it splits got fucked up and now sound doesn't come out of the right ear. What's a good replacement with similiar sound and a similiar price?

Thanks.

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>>56473512
Makes sense imho.
>>56472205
how does that sound like? honest question.
>>56473595
Every time i see the redhead i think it's MJ Watson for some reason...

>>56471030
lol

>>56472739
Delusional sennshill go back to /reddit/

>>56473512
>SQ 7th
Gonna kill myself

Also sauce pls

>>56474108
Fuck off dumb AKG weeaboo.

HD598 has a flatter frequency response, more consistent fit, better comfort, better durability, better value and better efficiency.

K702 is inferior in every possible way.

Even Harman said fuck you to the K701 and replaced it with a HD518 to perform listening tests on because they realized that the AKGs were garbage.

>>56474108
Would you agree with >>56472259 though, that the K702 bass is somewhat subdued?

I'm trying to find out which pair is more open as well. But it's one of those comparisons that really bring the fan boys out and it's nigh impossible to have a sensible talk about which pair of cans has the better sound stage.

>>56474276
>Harman said fuck you to the K701 and replaced it with a HD518

Not that guy but do you have a source on that buddy?

>>56474276
>flatter frequency response,
Up to debate, but ok
>more consistent fit, better comfort, better durability, better value and better efficiency.
Subjective shit.

Also, HD558>HD598, unless you like paying more for the color schemes.

>>56474358
>Not that guy but do you have a source on that buddy?

www.innerfidelity.com/content/harman-researchers-make-important-headway-understanding-headphone-response

Harman exclusively used K701 headphones for listener training in their listening rooms for years. They replaced it with LCD-2 and HD518 because of their more consistent fit.

>>56474559
The frequency response isn't up for debate. The HD598 is OBJECTIVELY more neutral.

The fit and efficiency are objective statements as well. On many measurements the K702's bass leakage can be seen and it's obvious that the K702 needs more voltage/current than the HD558.

>>56474559
Just out of curiosity. I own a pair of flat headphones too (HD595) but I always listen music with my ATH-M50X. The Sennheisers are tiring becausing of their flat frequency.

I do use the HD595 from time to time when I'm listing to music that has a lot of detail in it but generally i find them tiring to listen too and not as "fun" as my M50X.

I know that flat sound is objectively more pure but I do believe there can be a good mix between sounding flat and pure and slightly entertaining. Obviouly I'm not talking about a ridicilous V shape.

>>56475046
Can you explain in more detail how the HD595 is tiring?

I previously had both of those headphones and yet I found the HD595 to be the complete opposite of tiring, I would rather call the M50X tiring.

>>56474704
Heh. Thanks

>>56470995
Looking for a hardshell case for my full-size headphones...What's a good bet for the $20-30 price range?

how good hyperx cloud 2 is?

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>only recently did I find out that earbuds can be worn like this
All this time I thought I had shitty ears.

>>56475306
Not worth it. Get the Core, if you're desperate for a headset.

>>56475124
I dislike the "sharp" sounding details on the HD595. I guess you could see the M50X as tiring since they sound (if you put it in extremes) muffled compared to the HD595.

I guess tiring might be a bad way of describing it anyway. It's more that I can listen to the M50X for prolonged times whereas the HD595 is really harsh to listen to.

I like both headphones though, it's just that after an hour I want to put my 595 off and my M50X is still comfortable to listen to.

I guess it's more a matter of personal taste.

>>56473512
Doesn't surprise me one bit.

>>56475356
>Core
i'm not from the states, can't buy a pair in my shithole cuntry

Asked last time but sadly got no responses.

Anyone using Comply tips? Considering getting them but they don't ship outside US and wonder if its worth the extra cost to get from a reseller

>>56474358
Olive et al.
A Virtual Headphone Listening Test Methodology
>For the virtual tests, a Sennheiser HD518 circumaural headphone was chosen as reference or simulator headphone and equalized to simulate the six headphones listed in Table 1.
>There were several criteria that made it a good choice for a simulator headphone: its relatively wide bandwidth, smooth frequency response (not flat, but smooth), comfort, and consistent fit and seal on the listeners’ head and ears, which minimized errors related to leakage.

A previous study [Headphones Listening Tests, Opitz] conducted at AKG in Vienna appears to use the K 601 as the reference headphone. They don't mention the model by name, just the picture and a list of design features. K601 measured flatter by DF anyway.


>>56474704
>Harman exclusively used K701 headphones for listener training in their listening rooms for years.
Have they?

>>56470995
Someone once posted cheap replacement cables for Shure SExxx earphones.

Anybody got the link?

>>56476020
amazon.co.uk
I can't use the rubber tips that came with my in ears
Before comply tips I thought in ears just wasn't a possibility for me

>>56476242
>Have they?
Yes, source was Sean Olive on Head-Fi but I checked his profile and some of his posts are missing. Maybe Head-Fi pruned some threads or something's afoot.

>Budget
£300
>Location
UK
>Source
Schiit Stack/laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Reasonably comfortable.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral.
>Past headphones
I have Sennheiser HD 600s right now. I'd just like some isolation for when I'm listening to girls screaming and crying.

The Etymotic ER4PT seems like the best option for me.

>>56476953
Etymotic ER4XR or ER4SR.

Have a look at both and see which one you'll prefer.

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>>56476953
I would look into the new ER4 lineup too, SR and XR.

>>56471030
BIG

>>56471147
Get them from gearbest dumbass

How are Jeeco DF10s for cheap-ish earbuds?

>>56477677
They're out of stock, as always.

>IEMs broke
>try listening to my old logitech X-540
>it's fucking trash
now i can see why normies can tolerate spotify, they wouldn't know the difference with their shitty sound systems anyway

I need a amp to my Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro. Would the Creative Sound Blaster E1 be a good choice?

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>Budget:
~$100 CAD
>Location:
Canada
>Source:
Laptop & phone
>Preferred type of headphone:
Over ear? I guess?
>Open or closed:
Closed
>Comfort level:
As comfy as fuckin possible since I have a 17 hour plane ride coming up
>Past headphones
Only mid-tier earbuds so far

>>56474798
>>56474704
>>56474276
>>>/reddit/

>>56478040
MDR7506 perhaps?
In the future you might want to get Auray Sheep Skin pads for it too.

hello hpg

>Budget
let's do 100€

>Location
Germoney

>Source
s7 edge / laptop
but I was really looking for some wireless headphones if possible

>Preferred type of headphone
I'm looking for full-size / on ear

>Open or closed
closed - public use and such

>Comfort level
as comfortable as possible since I want to wear these for several hours at a time

>Preferred tonal balance
I listen to a lot of EDM so bassy or neutral (?)

>Past headphones
currently I am using Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision In Ear headphones.
They sound nice but to get a nice bass going I have to push them in rather hard.

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Best wireless headphones for <200$? Preferably <100$
Currently using pic related, some obscure japanese shit. I don't need a microphone btw, just headphones

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What's the last audio component you bought, /hpg/? I just got pic related.

>>56478935
Cables.

>Budget
Around 100 euros
>Location
The Netherlands
>Source
Fiio E10k
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I wear headphones for hours every day
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat because it's for general use (music/video)
>Past headphones
Bose AE2
After watching Z Reviews, I'm on the fence on buying the Audio Technica m40x.

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>Budget
£80 ($110)
>Location
United Kingdom
>Source
PC, Amplifier, Record Player
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I want them to be comfortable if worn for 4 hours+ straight
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to Warm
>Past headphones
HD 202s, owned two pairs, they've done pretty well but i'm hoping to get an upgrade.

>>56478634

the new apple buds :^)

>>56479293
>bluetooth
nope

>tfw fell for the DAC+AMP meme.
Got my first DAC today (Pro-Ject DAC Box S USB). I'm using a Head Box S AMP with a DT880 but I'm not so satisfied with it. I know that the DT880 is pretty bass light headphone, but with this setup the bass is nearly non-existent. Any way to boost it a bit? In Foobar it's not a problem, because there are plugins for it, but for example in jewtube the sound is just too flat.

>>56479765
don't waste your money on shitty dacs/amps first. second dt880 has the flattest bass in a dynamic bar elear/utopia

>>56479765
Too late but hey

Amplifier/DAC checklist:
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, you don't need one.

Now install Equalizer APO for system wide PEQ and fix it.

>>56479765
Do your headphones have a high impedance? This amp may be crap at driving them.

>>56479765
Equalizer APO. System wide EQ.
I'm pretty sure no one has written a Foobar parametric plugin yet, EQAPO has graphic and parametric controls. Use it.

>>56470995
>>56471030
WIRED PHONES DEPRECATED WATCH

FUCKING SENSES WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT

FUCKING INSTANT ACCESS

FUCKING UPDATED PREMIUM DRIVERS FOR HI FI SOUND

>>56479891
It's the other way you should be wary of response issues(low impedance is a harder load) but not really with DT880s as their impedance function is relatively flat and excessive Zout would just cause them to be slightly more bassy.

>>56479087
Take a look at the Sennheiser HD 280 / HD 380 and the Beyerdynamic DT 250. I would also say the Sony MDR-7506, but these may be uncomfortable.

>>56479087
The M40x aren't bad, but not flat at all.

>Budget: Up to £200
>Location: uk
>Source: PC and Gaymen
>Open or closed: Closed pref, but can work with both.
I just want a headset with very good audio that has a mic.

is it worth grabbing a pair of hd 600s if i already have dt 880s.

i want a second set of reference monitors.

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>>56470995
How are Sennheiser HD600s compared to AKG Q701s? I've had these Q701s for years, and they're starting to fall apart.

>Budget
I'd like to keep it under $150
>Location
New York
>Source
FiiO X1
>Preferred type of headphone
I've always had over-ear and have never fallen for the IEM meme before, but am thinking of giving it a try. What are the pros and cons?
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Not shit?

what are the best headphones for my iPhone 7?

>>56480955
beats by dre

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>>56470995
Does anybody have the August EP650 wireless over ears? (pic related)
They're 26€ on Amazon right now and I've been wanting some nice and cheap wireless headphones for a while now. Should I get these. If not what else should I look at?

>>56480955
The AKG KYS

>>56480825
I don't want to sound like the HD600s shitposters, but I went from the DT880s to a pair of HD 600s and I found the Sennheiser's to sound better. The sound feels cleaner, yet not veiled at all.

are their headphones that are both wired and wireless?

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MORE Triple Driver In-Ear Headphones

Thoughts?

I need some nice earbuds for [reasons]. /hpg/ usually only discusses over ears. What is the consensus for buds?

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Reminder that headphones haven't actually improved in 50 years

>>56481988
>citation needed.

>>56480825
Are you doing any professional work? HD600 translates mixes better but you can get used to the DT880's bright signature.

No point having both since the DT880 sounds like the HD600 with less 3k emphasis and more 8k emphasis.

>>56480904
Better, it's make a good replacement for the Q701.

>>56481586
There's a few meme options from RHA and Etymotic, that said I'm not too much of an in-ear guy.

>>56481988
This.

>>56482012
http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/stax/new-sr-3.htm

inb4 le rockwell

I have the HD 598 which I use with the Fiio E10k DAC. I've had it for about 18 months; looking to upgrade now.

Any recommendations? I only listen to classical: Bach, Mahler, Schoenberg etc. Don't want to spend too much over $500 in total.

>>56479232
bump

>>56482163
>classical
Stax, and anyone who tells you that another brand would come within earshot of stax for this genre is an idiot.

http://pricejapan.com/front/e_good_info.php?code=1658&category=10

Don't think, just buy it.

>>56463842
HELP

>>56482285
>>56482163
Also http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stax-SRS-2050A-SR-202-SRM-252A-System-/252520586548? if you want to meet budget.

Anyone know of a good cheap USB adapter that can take SPDIF input from my TV? (So that I can pipe it through my sound card, which doesn't accept SPDIF input, and listen on my headphones.)

>>56482368
So you need a DAC and headphone amp that accepts SPDIF? SMSL M3 or SD793-II

>>56482301
Alright fuck it im clicking buy headphone memes FULL POWER ASOJSDFK;l'

>>56482459
That would also work, but wouldn't it be cheaper to use my already existing DAC/amp and get a cheap little adapter to receive the signal? I mean it's all digital so theoretically the quality of the thing shouldn't matter as long as it's not really super shitty enough to corrupt it somehow.

>>56481137
>>56482014
cheers. i put records out from time to time. any significant differences in bass response?

>>56482478
What kind of signal do you want the adapter to output?

>>56482478
Though I dunno, would either of these be a decent upgrade over my FiiO E10k? That's basically what I'd be replacing if I decided to go that route.
>>56482522
Doesn't have to output anything, just act as an input device for my computer, then I use the "listen" feature in audio settings to transfer the input over to my DAC. My understanding is that everything should be lossless until it hits the DAC since it's all just digital data up to this point but is that not the case?

>>56482565
Also kind of tangentially related, but does outputting audio from device -> TV over HDMI, and then from TV -> DAC over optical degrade or alter the signal in any way? My assumption is that it wouldn't since it remains in digital form, but haven't really had a way to test it. Is much more convenient to be able to use my TV as a hub for all my devices rather than having to keep unplugging and plugging stuff into my DAC.

>>56482565
I can't think of anything that just offers an optical interface that exposes that same signal over USB or something that doesn't do anything to the signal like DA in addition. Perhaps some audio interfaces do that but they're likely more expensive.

>>56482635
Depends on your TV's DAC and if it molests the signal from HDMI significantly. No way to know without testing it.

>>56472328
>Do you have any reputable source that wireless headphones are somehow inferior?
Let's get this straight. You assume wireless has sound quality as good as comparably priced wired headphones? Even though there are no "mid-fi" or "high-fi" wireless headphones? Even though manufacturer's have a history of using the cheapest parts necessary to abide by standards and jacking up the price, for example just about every gaming headset ever made in history? Even though the biggest names in wireless headphones, namely Beats, Logitech, and Bose, are all deprecated brands when it comes to audio quality?

Are you sincerely so retarded to ignore all the evidence to the contrary and still assume wireless sounds as good as comparable wired headphones?

>>56482482
Regarding DT880 vs HD600?

DT880 extends deeper by a few decibels but you won't really hear this difference. Other than that, the bass response on both sound very similar.

>>56482482
I went the other way around, tested both, felt that the extra treble on the DT880 was great to perceive problems whille the HD600 was a bit more forgiving, but both are pretty good imo, so you will be fine either way.
Abou the bass, like Anon said, DT880 extends a bit more, but it's not that much of a difference unless you are working specifically with low frequencies, say, EQing the bass guitar or something, and even then, if you are used to how the headphone sounds it shouldn't be a problem.

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>>56483081
>>56483185
thanks.

>porta pro sized
>better sound
name 2 or 3 models

Will I regret replacing my FiiO E10 with a SMSL M3? Pretty close to pulling the trigger on it (mostly because of the optical in port which my E10 lacks but also hoping it will fix some minor distortion issues I've noticed on the E10 sometimes) but am I making a big mistake by doing so?

>>56483767
no, smsls generally have more powerful amps in their combo units and 1/4" sockets are a godsend

>>56483796
Why is 1/4 socket better? Just less likely to damage/wear or something?

>>56483878
won't break, more secure connection, feels damn good to plug in and makes a satisfying click (personal point)

>>56481988
why don't mainstream companies like Sony or Sennheiser make electrostatic headphones if they're so amazing?

>>56484152
sennheiser do make electrostatic headphones better than stax

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>>56482097
>click on 'Performance'
>it's his subjective impressions

>>56484212
i guess he hasn't had a chance to measure them yet. his studio monitor measurements are generally comprehensive and don't include useless meme graphs like CSDs

>electrostatic earphones
>Shure KSE1500
>$2,999.00
fugg

this is the first time i've heard about this technology. how long has this been a thing? are all electrostatic headphones/earphones this expensive?

>>56484394
kse1500 are awful

electrostatic have been around longer than you've been alive

>>56484394
No. The SRS-002 is better and costs as low as $180 on ebay auction.

>>56484152
Because they are lazy and it would require reskilling. Also the existing headphone market is derivative of the utilitarian pro audio market where people just want to plug things straight into their deck.

>>56484450
>costs as low as $180 on ebay auction
because its previous owners weren't happy with them and need to get rid of them

>>56484211
Well what I mean is why aren't they more mainstream? like a $200-300 price range model made by Sennheiser or Beyer or Sony or whoever. I know Stax makes a lower end cheaper one that's apparently great but why no one else? I'd imagine if such a small company could make a competitively priced electrostat a larger company could make and get them even cheaper.

It also seems weird to me that Sennheiser would make electrostats but only make them as extremely expensive enthusiast only headphones and never make a more conventional model.

>>56483796
Might as well use mini-XLR for that.

>>56484268
No coupler.

>>56484152
They used to, long ago, as did many other companies. In those days before the development of the CD or the Walkman,
headphones were also very niche devices.
Some institutions still use the old Stax Lambdas with a pad change every now and then. Of course, I also remember a lot of places selling away their Stax for HD580/600 and the K240 DF back in the day as well.

>>56484450
>>56484152

Also, stat phones don't "chug" in a way that pop music requires.

>>56484517
They were owned by my late husband
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stax-SRM-001-Driver-Unit-and-In-The-Ear-Canal-Speakers-system-mint-condition-/272351162375?hash=item3f6964f007:g:H2YAAOSwIgNXvPNq

>>56484520
You're thinking of a magic universe where people purchase things rationally instead of being cowed by marketing.

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Is the SupremeFX III chip on Asus motherboards good?

Dont really feel like spending 200 dollaroos on a DAC unless I really have to

>>56484520
they're expensive to make, a pain in the ass to maintain, require a special amplifier and a proprietary connector, can't have detachable cables from the headphones for safety reasons (because of the very high voltages)

they are an audiophile niche that wouldn't sell in the mainstream market. stax have been struggling ever since they nearly bankrupt themselves with the T2 amplifier, they've been surviving off their near monopoly on electrostatic headphones/amplifiers and their high profit margins (the T2 had virtually little to no margin)

beyer made electrostats at one point too (ET1000) i guess they simply werent financially feasible

>>56484547
ebay sellers are full of shit

>>56484530
>Might as well use mini-XLR for that.
leave that for portable players, it's already enough of a pain dealing with the millions of different connectors directly to the headphone/earphone, let's not make it such a clusterfuck on the amp end too.

>>56484597
>they're expensive to make, a pain in the ass to maintain
no and no
See SR Basic series, and perfectly working SR-3's on ebay respectively.

>>56484641
dust can fuck your stator up pretty bad and you have to treat them with much more care than you would a regular headphone.

the leather pads alone require maintenance and can't really be swapped out for a nicer material due to how reliant stax are on seal (still don't know why they don't use orpheus style pads)

>>56484577
as long as stick to using the rear ports you should be fine

>>56484721
The phones have dust covers on both sides with the exception of the Lambda Signature, which has squeal problems.

You can buy pad spares for $50. Only issue with pads I have is depth but that is remedied on the new series which actually features a redesign.

As for drop vulnerability, the drivers themselves aren't any weaker in this regard as I've read. The plastic housing is more of an liability.

Lack of mainstream adoption is probably because stat phones under $500 are quite low margin compared to what's possible with a dynamic. The basic and classic systems I've heard are barely above cost in Japan. Also, they don't chug.

>>56484520
>why aren't they more mainstream
The electrostatic drive principle doesn't automatically make it good or even tolerable.

Sickeningly insensitive, require a comparatively absurd amount of voltage and slew even compared to conventional loudspeakers. Require specialized amplifiers with bias voltage, not that this stopped electrostatic microphones from being popular. The microphones will involve much lower voltage than the headphones.
Audio is very niche, high voltage parts availability is also dependent on other industries with more revenue involved.

Also, much more sensitive to leak than most other open backed headphones.

>>56471034
SHP9500?

Haven't tried them.
Are they a meme /g/?

>>56484809
Yeah but how would it compare to a real soundcard or DAC?
From the looks of it they stuck a good one on the motherboard, could be just looks though.

>>56484530
>>56484597
>>56484941

It makes a lot more sense now, it's probably true that manufacturers dropped them in favor of headphones that would not cause potential lawsuits and have more durability for the casual consumer and draw less power to save money, even if they can now be made cheaper the profit margin being so much less and no competitor rising to challenge that status quo makes sense. I do definitely want to listen to one after this realization.

>>56485109

>>56484941 is very well educated but his rejection of the stat principle of being inherently worthwhile is false

This is what DIY stats get you:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/extraordinary-diy-electrostatic-headphones-chinsettawong

Of course, he is free to say that Wachara's phones are somehow intricately engineered.

>>56471403
>RKV
Pic unrelated then?

>>56485065
i'd guess it'd be on par with an internal soundcard, if you get an external DAC it would have to be a good one like $100-200+ and it still might not be better

>>56484945
Yes, they're a meme
Hd 558/598 is better

>>56484394
That's just shure overpricing shit. Get an SR-003 for $200 give or take.

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>>56484597
>can't have detachable cables from the headphones for safety reasons

Should I get a pair of ATH-M50X or Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO? I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 598s right now, but I get this feeling that they're not particularly good for the genre of music I like listening to (edm/rap/hip-hop).

>>56485655
>>56484394
Further info:
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/stax-sr-003-mk1-electrostatic-in-ear.html

(The only stat in-ear and it manages to get top marks, but remember goy, the final product is what matters more than transducer type, so keep buying from companies like Sennhausen that have big budgets to shill on head-fi!)

>>56485809
The baby stax is pretty good for what it is, although not as good as the lambdas. Has a bit of a warm tilt to it [source: I own a pair].

So I love the style of the k701/702, that look of headphone, just looks classy.

However, I understand they have pretty much no bass to them which is disappointing. Are there any phones in the 200~ price range that look similar, but might have a little more boom behind them? Or am I over exaggerating the issue here

What is the best usb dac

>>56471030
WIRELESS IS THE FUTURE

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>>56470995
Don't worry, I got you covered.

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

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Could do with a bit more bass, but I love 'em <3

>>56485809
so would you recommend this to replace my yamaha EPH-100 after the warranty runs out?

>>56485922
no it's not, the health effects will be uncovered and we'll all look like idiots to people from future generations

>>56485960
Why, are they going to break?

>>56486000
Calm down Muhammad, wireless is halal

>>56485109
>headphones that would not cause potential lawsuits
The primary danger of the electricity is in the current flow and not the voltage involved.
The headphone by and large operates on a capacitive drive principle, so extremely little current is needed for audio. The amplifiers are also designed to have very limited current with that fact in mind and still are built with in-line resistors to buffer the current.

Shocks can and do still happen if you are careless, some people who wear the Stax in-ears right after swimming or intense sweating getting a surprise discharge in the ear.


>>56485197
Wachara wasn't exactly a newbie then and he does has the benefit of Stax and Sennheiser presenting a design that he can reference. Things like gold and quartz stators are adornments, the enclosure and driver proportions are what need to be represented carefully.

>>56484394
It's funny because those are G A R B A G E IEMs and they get outperformed by $10 IEMs.

>>56486029
mine have failed twice, the first time after like 3 months and the second time after like 11 months, so i don't expect them to last very long. i read that maybe it has something to do with the air pressure in your ear canal or something so maybe it doesn't affect everyone but it seems relatively common for it to fail judging by the discussions online.

>>56485197
>http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/extraordinary-diy-electrostatic-headphones-chinsettawong
I don't like most electrostatic headphones but that Orpheus clone makes my dick hard. I would like to hear the original or even that clone even once in my life.

>>56486080
https://rinchoi.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/yamaha-eph-100.html

You choose. Bear in mind the Stax are not isolating and use a AA powered opamp portable driver.

>>56486100
It has a slight treble reduced tilt to it. Subbass drops out, or least I was stuck with the bottom end shelf.
The DIY version seems slightly brighter (read: flatter).

>>56486080
Did the EPH-100 have front vents? I don't recall clearly, but I don't remember there being a depressurizer installed.

>>56470995
looking for a portable and fun sounding pair of headphones for under 200 canucks, and i found the Beats Studios for $150 on Amazon. should i do it?

SMSL? Chink garbage? Or what? Considering one of their DAC.... Would I be better to save and aim for a known player

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>>56486196
the stax seem good, i'll have to look into them and other alternatives at $200+ if/when my EPH-100 fail out of warranty

>>56486266
they have tiny slits which i guess are vents

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>>56486428

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MUST NOT BUY

I have a hoarding problem

send help pls

I already have two DT880s

>>56486582
BTW, for anyone who is considering getting a DT880, they might want to spend extra and get this. The headband is better and the black pads don't discolor like the regular pads.

>>56484152
See Sennheiser's HE line (1, 60, 90)

I plan on getting a Grado just for the made in the USA. How does the SR80e compare to other poorfag headphones like the ATH-M40x or the NVX XPT100? Are the higher end cans a better relative value?

>>56486817
Try them out first to see if you like the grado house sound. They have a very unique sound signature that you may or may not enjoy.

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/g/'s opinion on this?

Is it possible to get it to work as a DAC/Amp with Leenux? Dont need the gaymer audio while running that.

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I have a pair of shure se215s that ive been bringing to the gym but they block too much sound and are uncomfortable to wear while working out, looking for a more comfy alternative

>Budget
~$100
>Source
HTC M9
>Preferred type of headphone
Would prefer earphones
>Comfort level
Very high plz
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Past headphones
Shure SE-215

>>56483226
pffftahhahahhahahahh

>>56487655
I don't get it

>>56487337
Should work. My setup works flawless w/ Linux (DAC over USB)

>>56487705
Would it be able to drive a k7xx? about to pull the trigger and buy one

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>>56471147
Walk around in public find some earpods lying around they have best frequency response

http://en.goldenears.net/12850

Pic related. Found them in the car park but it was all gunky and scratched up. I considered buying a fake earpod to use as a donor replacement to refurb it myself but I don't think Earpods are open-upable. These'll be my bedtime beaters and I tried to clean them up I'll get ear disease right?

>>56487881
Yes. They are excellent for ear-buds.

Enjoy your AIDS.

>>56475350
This changed my life

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>tfw just listening to pink noise

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Has their been any significant change in the headphone market since 2013?
Is the k712, the HD600/650 and the DT880/990 still the best trio of midrange headphones?

>>56489329
Not in mid-fi but there have been a few new things in boutique-fi. HD800s, Utopia, etc.

>>56489329
Are DT660's a must buy? Do they sound like a closed back AKG K7..?

>>56489329
it's DT880/HD600 or 650/HE-400S or i now

>>56489364
>Are DT660's a must buy?
In my personal opinion, yes. This is dependant on what music you listen to though. They can be cold, unforgiving and sterile, it's not a headphone for rock or EDM. They are at their best with classical and vocal. Every detail can be heard, the smoothness of treble delivery is almost like listening to a balanced armature driver. I would highly recommend them to anyone who enjoys classical.

>Do they sound like a closed back AKG K7..?
No. The k7-- series has a peak in the high mids that give them their signature analytical sound. The DT660s are much more airy, If you want a closed headphone that sounds like the K7-- series, get a K550, if that's still being made.

>>56489393
I'll check out the HE-400S, I already own the HD650 and the DT990.

>>56470995
Another shit OP

>>56489538
why would you keep buying more midrange stuff? get the elear, they're better hd650s

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>>56489551
kys

>>56489558
Because I enjoy variety. I also get a great deal of pleasure out of my current headphone collection. If that ever changes, I would look into getting Stax or Audeze.

>>56489719
>audeze
they're great if you like variety because you'll be buying new headphones when they fall apart 3 weeks after purchasing

>>56489734
That's the other thing that concerns me, reports of bad build quality on products costing $1000+ is simply unacceptable. I refuse to pay that sort of money for something that isn't going to last.

>>56485683
Audeze and hifiman are incompetent and extortionate, CEO'd by a pajeet and a chinaman

Meanwhile there is an SR-404 near mint going BIN for $288 on ebay. If only I had two sets of ears.

What are the best Bluetooth over ears? Sound wise.

>>56489808
What's the best cheap amp to get for those?

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>>56489976

SRM-252s from staxusa, Otherwise wait an eternity for a full sized one to come up for auction if you're willing to recap it.

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>>56490111
>pic
The answer is clear.

My akg k545 and fiio x1 come in the mail tomorrow, did i fuck up?

>>56485875
>However, I understand they have pretty much no bass to them which is disappointing.
This "no bass" meme again. K702/K701 give the perception of being bass-light simply because their bass is very tight and clean and doesn't bleed into the mids.
What are you looking for in a heapdhone? Accuracy or fun? If you want fun, you'd better avoid the K702, since they're not tweaked and designed to sound bass-heavy.

Hello guys, since i am going to edit some stuff later i will tell you what i am doing.

I am editing music so it is pleasant for headphone listening, i made some but i will make more.

Test if you like, and request if so, tell me if you guys want an special one.

It must be an instrumental track.

Here is my YouTube playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9DmqxIRukx5hvrQRhKWd9wAXVQuRtUP_

Wear some headphones and enjoy i guess........

AKG K72 vs AKG K92

which is better and actually whats the difference between them? all i see is K72 has sensitivity of 112Db while K92 has 113Db

I'm wondering if I should go for Beyerdynamic DT770, DT880 or DT990

I will mostly use it for gaming, listening to music and watch movies. Maybe bringing it outside
What would give the best sound experience?
Is noise cancelation/isolation worth it?
What impedance version should I get?

>>56490997
>Maybe bringing it outside
Don't. Get separate IEMs.

DT770 for closed. DT880 otherwise.

Newb in this stuff
what does it affect if one headphone is 20kHz and the other is 22kHz ? just the high notes being more accurate? in what kind of music does it actually matter?

>>56491227
Perceptually nothing. 20khz is the upper limit of human hearing range. You might be able to hear up to 22khz if you were in a soundproofed room and actively listening.

>>56491227
That's a rather meaningless number actually. Not only are those numbers usually falsified in manufacturer specs, extension past 20 KHz is meaningless as it exceeds our limits of hearing. A simple bandwidth does not tell you anything at all about the accuracy within that band. You have to look up for a frequency response graph to see how the actual output of the headphones is and even then there are plenty of caveats. You shouldn't really trust anything past 10 KHz in headphone measurements as signals past that frequency can't be accurately captured by the couplers in use. Anything extending beyond 16 KHz is exceedingly hard or even impossible to hear if the rest of the band is active. Temporal masking and our ears' sensitivity make it very hard to hear anything in the very end of the frequency spectrum other than sine tones. I could write more but I'm in a hurry right now. Ask away if you have something, I'll try to answer later.

>>56491249
Infants might be able to, adults not. It's a limitation of our hearing system and playing with fancy gear or nice rooms doesn't help here.

>>56491300
>Infants might be able to, adults not.
I was twenty-four when I got custom molds for some cIEMs. Went to get a free hearing test while I was at it and the test results showed I could hear up to 22khz with 80% accuracy.

Getting Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 Ohm and I'm probably getting E10K with, should I opt for something else or is the E10K the best bang for the buck?

>>56491249
and the lows? i have a headphone with 18Hz limit in the lows and in some songs with heavy bass i hear some crackling or some shit

>>56491434
Anything under 20Hz I believe would be in the infrasound region which your ears shouldn't be able to pickup.

Hell it would be tough picking up anything under 50Hz.

>>56491434
>and the lows?
I wouldn't trust what the manufacturer claims either way. Bass in that region is more felt than heard which will never be accurately reproduced by anything other than a subwoofer. Pretty much what >>56491451
just beat me to.

mkay then, ty for the help

>>56481765
comfy and simple my dude
tho you can get better mics for the same price

>>56481765
How's that stand? The top rest looked sharp in ebay pictures.

>>56490217
>>56490111
So who are the noobs in the pics?

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>>56485875
The K712s are what you need. They go for around $350 dollars. So your options are either to look for a pair second hand or look at the Massdrop exclusive K7XX

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones

If you just want the aesthetic look of the K702, the K52, K92, K240 and K612 all use the bugel head band.

>>56491300
>Temporal masking
Upward frequency masking.

>>56491434
Most music doesn't stress the headphone/speaker that way.

>>56491451
>infrasound region which your ears shouldn't be able to pickup
A common misconception. The tonal quality of sound does change around 18-20 Hz, pitch breaks down. Even so, these can still be described by conventional ideas of loudness.

>>56491454
>Bass in that region is more felt than heard
Not quite. The profoundly deaf do not pick up infrasound as well as people with functional hearing.
Low frequency sound produce vibrations in the chest cavity, but ears are still the most sensitive to sound input. The chest tactility idea does not bear out in examinations comparing headphone/earphone listening to a loudspeaker array, the threshold of detection is the same.

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>>56470995
>>56470995 (OP)
Reminder:
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

I didn't want to start a new thread but, on a related note, I need either some compact bookshelf speakers and a separate DAC/amplifier or some compact active speakers.

I used to have some Behringer MS40's and was very happy with their sound signature but I'd like to know if I can do better.

>Budget
<£200
>Location
UK
>Source
Optical SPDIF
>Preferred tonal balance
Close to MS40s with perhaps slightly more in the highs

So I was looking at the K612 or if massdrop has another K7XX drop I'd probably even go them. My question is will either of those be still decent headphones without using a headphone DAC/AMP?
Majority of my listening is done on my PC with the on-board sound at the moment, just need to know exactly how much I should save up.

he-400i or th-500rp?

>>56470995
>Budget: $100
>Location: Southeast Asia
>Source: Laptop Audio
>Type: Over Ear
>Open/Close: Closed
>Comfort Level: Daily Use

>>56492983
You will need an amp.

>>56492983
You probably should. Some soundcards have built in headphone amplifiers and I'm not aware of any motherboards with onboard amps for headphones but at 120 ohms you will definitely benefit. Look into a combined DAC and headphone amplifier.

>>56492983
They are both on the less sensitive side. It really depends on your integrated audio more than anything. Some have enough output power, some don't. You can try it without if you are on a budget. In the worst case it'll be a bit quiet, that's all.

>>56492078
Awesome, thank you

>>56493095
Cheers

>>56493115
>>56493131
Alright cool cheers, I've been kind of wanting a AMP/DAC combo so this might just push me towards it more.
But basically it rules out any chance of listening to any portable devices when I'm at uni? Like they'll be hella quiet?

>>56493237
Ignore the DAC part here. It's not driving your headphones. If you need a DAC for other reasons(interference, noise, more features etc) then fine.

>But basically it rules out any chance of listening to any portable devices when I'm at uni?
No, not necessarily. My S7 Edge can power most of my headphones without issues, including HD 800 is probably my least sensitive pair. I don't really have headroom to EQ but the max volume is loud. In short, like in the case of your integrated audio, this depends on your portable device. They aren't all the same.

>>56493273
Shit ok, so look into a better AMP over a combo, thanks a heap for that, I don't really need the features

>No, not necessarily
Sweet, this is probably the best news out of all of this

I have a question

I wanted to get wireless earbuds for a while, forgot about it til all this Apple stuff started again.

I keep saying people say >lol 160 dollars!! but when I went on looking for wireless earbuds, any decent pair cost 150+. Or am I missing something?

(Genuine question, please recommend me a pair)

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Holland, 40 euro budget, since these are popular here they're the only 40 currency price here, with other nicher but better headphones being way more than 40 euros

Any better alternatives or should I bite the bullet

>>56493427
You're assuming Apple earbuds are 'decent'. At best, they're baseline for a premium price.

>>56493427
>Or am I missing something?
No, you are not. Really good wireless earbuds are kinda expensive but I own a pair of $30 ones that are at the very least better than the (wired) Apple earbuds that come with the phone. I'd give you more information but I'm at work and don't even remember the brand... What I do remember though, is that they were on sale at the Technabob shop, so they're probably more expensive now.

These official and well-known online shops from my country are selling Apple earbuds for like an equivalent of 13 bucks

Are these for real and worth that price?

>>56493663
The wired ones? It doesn't matter if they're for real because they're not good. Get whatever Sennheiser CX earbuds you can afford and you're much better off.

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My newest acquisition, gonna pair the zalman mic from the guide.
Kinda disappointed with the bass, I'm used to go to live shows of electronic music and its not even close of the real experience

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what do you think about pic related /hpg/?

Any good Bluetooth in ears for under £50?

John Lewis is a rip off

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Got myself a speaker setup for Uni.

Judge me

>>56493760
>using a closed back pair for inside use

literally why

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>>56493237
>But basically it rules out any chance of listening to any portable devices when I'm at uni? Like they'll be hella quiet?

Why would you want to wear open headphones outside? If you just want to take your headphone amp to your uni dorm, most headphone amps aren't large and some can be run from USB power or rechargable batteries.

DAC/amp powered by USB
http://www.audioquest.com/dragonfly-series/#features

Small desktop amp that can also be used with batteries
https://www.jdslabs.com/products/35/objective2-headphone-amplifier/

>>56491227
>>56491434
More on frequency response graphs and interpreting the data.

If it wasn't too clear from my earlier post >>56491300, it's the response within the headphone's passband which matters, not so much the bandwidth itself as most headphones have little issues covering the audible range of frequencies or at the very least, the range which is of importance in music and most audio content available.

The upper and lower limits of the response are often defined by manufacturer in some spec sheet, but they are useless at judging the headphone's quality for two reasons: they don't define response accuracy at all and the measurements aren't standardized. It's easy to falsify and exaggerate these numbers over what the actual performance of the headphones is.

Loudspeaker magnitude response is usually defined with tolerance, e.g from. 45 Hz to 18 KHz within +-3dB. This is better as you can get some idea how accurately the response behaves within the lower and upper limits. The problem is, these specifications aren't standardized either and measurements in different environments with different techniques and gear can throw off the numbers quite a bit. With headphones this kind of tolerance value would also require the manufacturer to define the target curve for the response(a linear raw response is not ideal for headphones) in addition to the standardized measurement coupler and method.

It's also worth mentioning that coloration in the band is often more objectionable in parts of the response where our ears are more sensitive, broad humps are more audible than narrower ones, peaks very close to one another can mask each other out and so on. This is why even a standardized magnitude response with tolerence can only serve as a very general approximation of the sound signature, unless of course the tolerance is extremely small(e.g. +-1 dB). It is why you should always look for frequency response plots which show the magnitude as a function of frequency.

>>56494360
Cont

The couplers(ear simulators used for measuring headphones) are accurate up to 2-3 KHz where their response is very close to that of real human ear. Past that point and onwards the response gets increasingly individual on real ears and measurements conducted with a universal coupler decrease in accuracy. 6 KHz is an upper limit where the couplers are still decently accurate but beyond that you shouldn't put too much emphasis on the smaller colorations in the plot. And anything beyond 10 KHz in headphone/in-ear plots is a region which is nice to have but accuracy can't be trusted anymore.

Accurate data is hard to create and hard to come by. Well conducted measurements can give a very good idea of something sounds like as long as you can associate that data with real world listening experience. Even with lacking experience on different sounding headphones, measurements serve as a good way to weed out the poor performes. There is a clear correlation between listener preference and neutral, extended frequency response. There are also variables unrelated to sound which can and often do alter our perception of sound but that's another matter.

>>56491434
Audible crackling sounds more like a source/amplifier issue, distortion could be source or the headphones themselves. It's not that related to the low frequency extension. Same stuff about manufacturer specified limits and frequency response plots apply there. The band is often rolled off in lowest parts of the response but doesn't cut abruptly at say 18 Hz. However manufacturers come up with these very specific limits is anyone's guess.

>>56493760
>Kinda disappointed with the bass
But these headphones already emphasize the bass response. Is live shows' equipment fault.

>>56494372
Cont

There are very little cases where audio has content as low as 18 Hz and its importance during music listening is negligible. 18 Hz is pushing it in terms of audibility too. The bass response can also be very individual because of leakage and sealing issues. Some headphones are more prone to leak and poor seal than others and it can throw off the response in low frequencies up to 10 dB or more, making the same headphone sound vastly different on different people. As for for LF response and measurement couplers, they can't simulate how the headphone performs on a wide range of individuals. Some couplers can be overly optimistic in terms of seal, others can be hard to achieve seal at all even if the headphones worked well on real ears.

>>56492587
>Upward frequency masking.
Yes, indeed. Meant to just type auditory masking.

>>56484945
Love my shp9500s they do the job very well cause I'm not autism

>>56494384
>There are very little cases where audio has content as low as 18 Hz
please stop lying

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>Budget : MYR 300
>Location : Malaysia
>Source : Phone
>Preferred type of headphone : Full sized
>Open or closed : Closed (never tried open)
>Comfort level : As long as my ears don't get too hot, thats fine. quality over comfort tho.
>Preferred tonal balance : Something like pic related but richer, or the apple earpods
>Past headphones : Pic related, and earpods

>>56494638
Can't recall anything except intentional bass tests or tones. 18 Hz is extremely low.

>>56495058
try to find a single song in your library that does not contain any information at 18 Hz
i doubt you can

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>>56494375
I doubt it
I'm just spoiled

>>56495115
I can check later. No fundamentals there I'm sure. I'm also fairly sure if I were to do a high pass from 20 Hz I wouldn't hear anything different in the music, even if it still had information that low.

>>56495502
>No fundamentals there I'm sure.
>wouldn't hear anything different
sounds like you're already moving the goalposts

>Budget
40€
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
should not hurt that much
>Past headphones
Turtle Beach Px22

Would be nice if it has already a microfon

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I ordered one. Will i get buyers remorse? Is MDR-7506 audibly better? Like imaging?

>>56495683
Nevermind. This guy knows his stuff. Says the V6 is better.
http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/mdr-v6.htm
http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/mdr-7506.htm

>>56487881
Some disinfectant should work fine.

>>56487975
>you must be 18 years old to post on this site

>>56478634
AKG?

Why do people keep saying MDR V6 is discontinued? It's clearly still on sale.

>>56472739
I own both and you're wrong. and I can't believe people say it has no bass. it has as much bass as the hd600, more impact actually. the 598 is much lighter on bass than both of those.

Hey guys, I have a weird setup on my desktop, my case is too far away from my chair and most headphones don't reach it.
I tried getting audio output from my monitor through hdmi but it gets noisy when I increase the volume.
I also got some 3.5mm extenders but they are all shit and fuck everything up.

Long story short, I want to give wireless headphone a try. I'm not an audiophile by any means, as long as it can play my v2 mp3 without any more noise than the file already contains, I'm fine.

So, are there any good option? something that gets atleast 10-15 hours battery and charges easily for the next day when I'm sleep

Or... Recommend a headphone with a wire over than 5m. I can go upto $100

>>56498041
Why not just get a DAC/amp and put it on your desk with a long usb cable to the desktop? Try a FiiO E10k, SMSL M3, or something like that

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ai-101da-integrated-amplifier-with-usb-dac

Anyone have one of these? I want a dac amp for my headphones but I also wanna run some bookshelf speakers. The alternative is to buy all this stuff separate but it seems like the teac is a good value at 200

>>56489538
DT660 is a real hidden gem, I remember telling you about them a while back.

It lacks sub-bass but it still sounds really nice.

>>56489808
Link?

>>56495588
Well you're both arguing something odd, firstly, music does contain data at 18Hz, but it's not audible. The spectral balance of most recordings peak in the sub-bass and upper bass. Some engineers simply reduce 30Hz and under to kill any potential rumble. Regardless of whether or not 18Hz is audible to your ears, you're not gonna hear it on music.

>>56495683
Literally the same thing. Wiring is slightly different I believe but any differences between both is due to driver variances.

>>56497901
It depends on preferences, but the HD598 is indeed more neutral than the K702.

Just tried the Demon HD 600. Thoughts? I loved them and will probably pick them up next pay check.

Willing to check other headphones, but must be available at B&h to test. Inb4 epic Jew memes :@).

I tried the sennheiser urbanite, liked it but sounded a bit shallow, its the only word I can describe it.

>>56498223
>but the HD598 is indeed more neutral than the K702.

honestly when headphones are close in terms of balance and there is a significant amount of variance between measurements I just call it a toss-up. I have seen a good amount and the AKG looks more neutral. but even if the 598 is more neutral in terms of db, the lack of bass impact is what does it in for me. its just so damn light. I still think it does a lot of things amazingly and before I have my hd600 is was my all-day stream/radio/gaming headphone. I still think if you play comp games and want a headphone in general it's the best thing below the hd600.

>>56495683
no, and buy it immediately. the v6 is significantly harder to find (out of production?), and at that price it's an amazing deal. an argument can be made that it's better than the 7506, although you would really have to nitpick it, they sound nearly identical.

thinking of buying a pair of lindy hf-100 but would i be better off spending £10 more on the ath-m40x instead?

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Bought a pair of MEE m6's for $14 on amazon and holy shit are they great

I ended up buying a second pair for backup since they're so cheap

>>56498249
>Demon HD 600
What?

>>56498339
I don't think the K702 is particularly neutral, I prefer the K601 or K612PRO.

>>56498401
The Lindy is more comfortable.

>>56498434
>Demon HD 600
It's a HD 600 tuned by Satan oviously

>>56491227
don't worry about it, everything else is far more important

>>56491249
>>56491300
there can be a difference in brain activity even if you can't consciously perceive it

I was looking at two pairs of headphones recently, the sennheiser hd598 and the Beyerdynamic dt 880. I was looking for a neutral-ish tone but prefer bass over treble. I read that the senns were bad for EDM which is what I mainly listen to (plus some metal and rap). I'm currently leaning towards these cans but was wondering if the bass is enough and how the beyers performed comparatively. I'm also am looking for a big soundstage. For that reason I'm looking mainly at open but don't really care. What does /g/ think ?

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>>56487337
Got one of these and a K7xx coming over
what am I in for?

previous phones were hd558 plugged directly into my mobo

>>56498681
Fidelio X2 if you want open back with bass. Forget DT880 and HD598.

>>56498249
>>56498434
>>56498448
Lel, that was my autocorrect. I meant Denon. Wasn't even that far off

>>56498249
>>56498434
>>56498448
I meant the Denon HP 600 my bad

>Budget: $300 USD
>Location: US/Canada
>Source: pc motherboard (asus z87 a), phone (OnePlus 3)
>Preferred type of headphone: over ear, no issue with using an amp
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: high, will wear for long durations.
>Past headphones: ATH M50, other cheap shit before that

Looking for some solid 'phones.
Pretty inexperienced with purchasing headphones.

If for $300 I can get a significant audio improvement from my M50s, i'll use these new guys for (relatively) stationary listening on my pc, and for walking around the apartment with my phone. I would then use my M50s for on the go stuff (urban commute/my laptop/workstations). In this case, I would prefer if my new phones still had some decent portability (like a reasonable cord) just for walking around the apartment and being able to easily switch between my phone and my computer without webbing my desk in cable.

However, I am pretty disappointed with the M50's portability. If I can't really get a significant improvement in audio quality, I would prefer some solid headphones that that don't look too ridiculous and have superb portability.

I could probably solve my problems with the m50's portability with some homemade solutions though. Anyone have any ideas? I've had to solder a new plug on my m50's twice, and right now the jack still isn't great. They don't seem extremely durable, I'm wondering what the best methods of storing in a bag is.
My biggest grievance is the cable length (I have the unwound cable): switching between my computer and phone sucks, I have to use two pockets to carry the cord, and taking my headphones out of the bag and into another computer and bagging them is obnoxious.

Appreciate any advice.

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Is it OK to connect my speakers to my headphone amp/dac unit?

So essentially my speakers amplify the signals from my headphone amp/dac combo.

This configuration allows me to play my speakers and headphones in parallel amplifying the same signal.

I am wondering most of all if it degrades the sound quality in anyway? Or if its supposed to? I dont think it does and have not heard a difference.. pic related

Couldnt find shit on the internet, only something bout double amping and think thats something else

>>56498707
>>56498681
I was looking to spend under 200 € on my first pair of decent headphones.

>>56498223
>music does contain data at 18Hz
wouldn't you say that statement contrasts the statement "There are very little cases where audio has content as low as 18 Hz"?
>Regardless of whether or not 18Hz is audible to your ears, you're not gonna hear it on music.
probably not, but you're still going to feel it under the right circumstances.

Should I go for DT770 or DT880?
Is the sound from the DT770 good enough, or is the sound from DT880 infinitely better?

Also, what impedance variant? I might not be an audiophile

>Budget: $20USD
>Location: US/Canada
>Source: Phone (Oneplus One), iPod
>Preferred type of headphone: in ear
>Past headphones: Superlux HD668B, AKG K450, Creative earbuds

Looking for cheap in-ears for travel and stumbled upon this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Arrival-Original-KZ-ATE-3-5mm-in-ear-Earphones-HIFI-Metal-Stereo-Earphones-Super/32350895239.html
anyone have experience with this chink shit?
They look amazing on paper for that price but I'm unable to find anything on them.

>Budget
$80
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung S6
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Reasonably comfortable.
>Preferred tonal balance
Listen to pretty much everything, so neutral I guess?
>Past headphones
Some beats that came with the HTC1 They were my first "decent" pair of IEMs and I could notice a huge difference. I hear they're shit though when compared to other things.

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>>56498821
That's fine as long as your unit has a pre-out or line-out. Pre-outs allow the device to modulate the volume that is sent, line-outs are sent at a fixed volume.

>>56498814
ATH-MSR7 should work, don't know if you want 2 headphones from the same company. You could also check out the V-Moda Crossfade M-100

>>56500095
>>56500095
>>56500095

New thread.

>>56499513
RE-400.

>>56499435
It's popular on Head-fi, try it I guess.

>>56499414
80 ohm for no amp, DT880 is more neutral but DT770 has more sub-bass, I say go for the 80ohm DT770 limited edition

>>56498920
>wouldn't you say that statement contrasts the statement "There are very little cases where audio has content as low as 18 Hz"?
Perhaps, not my statement though.

>probably not, but you're still going to feel it under the right circumstances.

I'd disagree unless if you were playing tones, just look at the spectral balance charts, the dB value around 18Hz is quite value.

>>56500353
>18Hz is quite value.
Is quite low*

>>56500353
>Perhaps, not my statement though.
the statement is the core of the discussion.
>I'd disagree unless if you were playing tones, just look at the spectral balance charts, the dB value around 18Hz is quite low.
get some bassy speakers, play some bassy music, turn it up to 100 dB, set a lowpass filter to 20 Hz.
then you should be able to feel the music without hearing it.