/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Should I pull the trigger?

http://www.aztekcomputers.com/34372UU-LENOVO-3531546.html?source=googleps&gclid=CLfI9vvS_s4CFdKIfgod37IPNQ

I just got an x220, damn thing is basically mint. No scratches, stickers all on, no marks on any keys, not even a shiny spacebar. This on a 5 year old machine.

I want to buy some touchpad stickers from aliexpress for my w520, but i only find t420 stickers, are they the same size as the w520?
pls respond

Guys is this the recommended alienware screen upgrade?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391534594280

>>56485538
Can you not import from the US, that seems expensive

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dropped a 275gb, $70 Crucial MX300 into my T420, here's the Crystal Disk Mark results.

>SSD is a meme

>>56485862
Mighty scores there Bro. Since i was being cheap I just bought a used msata and two Evo 840 ssd for my new t420.

>>56485917

how fast is that msata? I've thought about putting my operating system on one and just using this for storage.

Was prompted to buy this thing because I had a 120gb 850 EVO and a 320gb WD slave drive, and the slave died. I don't want any moving parts anymore

>>56485944
Tomorrow I'll upload some benchmarks after work.
I'm still trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on a w520 or a dell m4600. I already have plenty of batteries, charger and docks but the quadro 2000M is very expensive on that w520.

Does anyone have experience with the X60 tablet? I'm looking for something semi-cheap for art and schoolwork, nothing too resource heavy.

>>56485372
What's a good replacement battery brand? Just got a T410S and need a new one.

Buying a new laptop for school (compsci) for under 1000$ CAD

I was looking at either the Thinkpad 13 or the X260 or maybe the T460, both just under 1000$ thanks to the discount code (thx guys)

I'm leaning towards the Thinkpad 13 because it has 256gb SSD

What do you guys think? I pretty much blindly trust you guys

>>56485372
any good BSD install guides?

>>56486435

13 is only good for having the touch screen.

I think you would be happiest with the T460 with an ssd in it.

A one generation old carbon could be quite nice as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-X220-12-5-Laptop-Core-i5-2-5Ghz-8GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Windows-7-Pro-COA-IBM-/222180899492?hash=item33bb037aa4:g:jL8AAOSwl2pXgD~e

go for it?

>>56486942
>250USD
for fucking what? it's an i5 X220 with a shit screen

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x250/Kitty reporting in.

>>56486993
I thought $200-300 was how much x220s usually go for

>>56486995
>X250
I'm so sorry

>>56487057
in the US market? you're joking right? they're floating between 120-150 for the config you posted

>>56487105
>they're floating between 120-150 for the config you posted

where?

>>56486866
With the t460 should I get the i5-6200u processor or should I get the 1080 upgraded display?

If I get both I go over my budget

Is it worth it to get the better graphics?

>>56487134
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272366042207 maybe he is referring to this one. Upgrading ram and ssd could be cheap.

>>56487057
That price point I've usually seen for x230s

Posted this last thread.

Should I sell my X220T and get an X250 later down the line? I love it to bits, but it's kinda on the heavy side, bulky, and the battery can't take me to the end of the day on it so I have to bring my cord on longer days. Maybe if I got a 6 cell OEM from Lenovo, but I am not too sure on t.

>>56487227
Should I pull the trigger?

>>56487653
I pulled the trigger, selling my MSI gaming laptop as we speak

>>56485372
I flashed the latest release of GNU Libreboot onto my x200 today. This release offers better video performance and battery life than the Lenovo BIOS. It increases the vram from 32MB to 512MB, and allows for lower CPU states. The high resolution panel on my t500 is supported now too. The boot times are also a lot better than with the stock BIOS.
It is a shame that newer CPUs have Intel ME and other things baked in with required firmware, but I don't need more than a core 2 duo in a laptop. It runs very well with a SSD and 8GB of RAM.

>>56487291
Get the 6-cell OEM and the 3-cell battery slice.

I get almost 10 hours on mine.

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So is T420 the last keyboard with trackpoint and 7 row or did I miss something?

>>56486372
I have X61 tablet. Better pen accuracy than X2** but worse than Helix and other more recent tablets, but shit response time. No idea how it affects painting but handwriting is uncomfortable when you can only see what you've written 2-3 letters ago.

>>56484322
Driver settings, something like this.

>>56488418
Sorry 8 row if you include arrows.

Any opinions on the thinkpad yoga 12 with the digitizer?

>>56486435
Trust me on this one get either a:
-T420
-T400
or
-X200

Buy the SSD separately.

You won't regret it.

>>56488018
>I flashed the latest release of GNU Libreboot onto my x200 today. This release offers better video performance and battery life than the Lenovo BIOS. It increases the vram from 32MB to 512MB, and allows for lower CPU states. The high resolution panel on my t500 is supported now too. The boot times are also a lot better than with the stock BIOS.
Can you describe the process?

>>56488610
"""""thinkpad""""

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Fuck you /g/ I just googled it and bought them stickers
Also got 10 red nipples for a dollar

>>56488765
won't have any resale value by the time it wears anyway

>>56488642
hardware flashing the SPI
there was a detailed guide around that was recently compiled

>>56486435
Listen to
>>56488628
And get a T400.

Perfect keyboard, plenty of performance for work, and none of the extra gpu for playing games (the best way to fail out of cs). Get an SSD and save the rest of your money.

I started compiling a list for things to keep in mind when buying a used Thinkpad
Here is what I have so far:
-Bring a live ISO of another OS you trust so that you can determine whether something is a hardware or software issue
-Enter BIOS, make sure that it is not password locked, if there is a screen prompting for a password then it is password locked and you will not be able to change all settings

-In BIOS, make sure hardware matches the seller's description (core hardware is listed in the BIOS)

-In BIOS, make sure that computrace and anti theft is disabled

-In boot utilities run simple hardware diagnostics if available (newer models will allow you to check the health of memory and storage)
-Boot the device and check that inputs like buttons, touchpad, and keyboard are working properly (make sure they are not disabled in the BIOS before claiming something doesn't work)
-Check physical condition of the item and run a test on ports if possible
-Check if the COA is still on the laptop if planning on using it
-Plug the laptop to a power source or unplug if running off a wall socket to check functionality of battery and power input
-Inspect the screen for dead/stuck pixels or any other screen damage
-For the X220 and X230 series, inspect the screen for white spots (visible especially on light images being displayed)
This is caused by too much padding behind the display that is being pressed against it
-check remaining battery capacity (upower or tlp on GNU/Linux)

>>56488418
>I have X61 tablet. Better pen accuracy than X2** but worse than Helix and other more recent tablets, but shit response time. No idea how it affects painting but handwriting is uncomfortable when you can only see what you've written 2-3 letters ago.
That's not the hardware though. Response is instant using, eg, XInput on Linux.

>>56489051
If anyone has anything general or model specific to add, please reply and I will add it to the list

Eventually, we can get this to be added to one of the guides in OP

>>56486435
>1000CAD computer to be a codemonkey
I love this meme

>>56488628
why are you suggesting x200 instead of x201?

>>56489600
Isn't the X201 is hard to find

>>56485577
how much did you get it for?
i just ordered one for $160, which is well under the outright price listed in the guide. it looked good in the pictures - no shiny keys or any signs of heavy use other than some scratches on the top. hopefully i made a good choice

Just got a T400 for $110 delivered. It's in mint condition.

How do I identify its components?

>>56490390
the bios
speccy

>>56490638
Ah thanks

Another thing, how do I remove stickers and sticker stains?

>>56489615
x201s are very common.
at this point they are far more common than x200s
>>56489079
>thinkpad 13/x260
>CAD computer
are you mentally retarded or something?
the "CAD" computers would be the wXXX and the pXX, not the fucking thin and light machines
>>56490650
I personally take them off, and rub my whole wrist rest with hand sanitizer
then after about a week of use they will all be gone

Why I shouldn't buy a x240? It's only 300€.

So there's this offer of t420 for 100$. It has no disk, 1GB of ram, no power supply and Scandinavian keyboard, when I'm a human. The panels seem to be ok and it has 1600x900 screen.
Is it worth it having in mind I would have to do something with the keyboard, buy a power supply, 4 gigs of ram and ssd?

>>56491864
yes imo

you'll get a brand new keyboard without semen stains

anyone know of an IPS screen that'll work in a t420? 900p resolution is fine.

>>56491677
Trackpoint buttons.
Screen issues with IPS panels.
Old and weak CPU.

Any tips for power saving on Linux?
2 hours got me to 34% on first battery.
I have 3 cell + 3 cell.

>>56492225
Alright, I just like the design.
A x230 would be better? Can I upgrade the monitor to ips or to 1080p?

>>56492298
>IPS
Yes
>1080
Not without trickery. You won't like it anyway.

I'm not saying the X240 is worse, just the X240 has its flaws.

X230:
>LVDS, no 1080+ screen
>thicker and heavier
>consumes more energy

>>56492338
Thank you.
I need a pc for light web browsing, reading pdf, telgram and some yt videos. Obviously I never owned a thinkpad so I don't know what's best. I liked the desing of the x240, x230 seems bulky and x220 it's too old I think.
Don't care much about battery life.

Is there anything wrong with me leaving my X220 plugged in while using it at my desk? Even at full charge?

Anyone can help me? I'm looking for a laptop for new laptop for use in college. My budget it's under 1000€ and I remembered you, the 4chan , /g/ people with their thinkpads :D and and I researched a bit in ebay for X1 Carbon. I was looking for a 14-15 small/lightweight laptop and find this one in ebay for 980€

Thinkpad X1 Carbon 3 Generation Modell 2015
Intel i7 5500U (Broadwell) 2,4 GHz Turbo 2,9 GHz FSB 1600 MHz
14,0" (35.6cm) Full HD (1920 x 1080) Matt
Intel HD 5500 (in the CPU)
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3L
256 GB SSD

What do u think about that? It's a good deal? I can find something interesting with my budget or better buy a brand new asus/msi/acer/hp?
Thank you :D

Jst bought a 12gram t430 for school to replace my breaking down acer aspire. What am I in for? I know its not the msot amazing thinkpad line but it looked decent enough for me, the only thing im worried about is it not having 1600x900 resolution and I heard the HDD gets really fucking hot

>>56492338
> You won't like it anyway.
Are there model-specific issues or did you mean 12" 1080 in general? Because I have Helix and the dpi on it is perfect. [spoiler]The only good thing about it.

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I never got the craze behind thinkpads.

I mean, they underperform on any meter of judgement a laptop can score on.
They're as retared as "Gaming laptops". Why would you make a powerful machine that weighs a billion tons when you could be using a desktop PC to do the same thing for half the price?

And in case you need portability that much, why not choose literally anything else on the market, thus getting a more powerful machine, for less money, and that wasn't made with the standards the industry had 20 years ago?

>>56493083
It's the way the 1080 screen is stuffed in it.
It acts as an external display. The Internal display is still there.

>>56492833
>>56493093

Is this bait?

>>56493099
Oh wow. That must have been one interesting mod to develop.

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>>56492833
If you're looking for a college laptop, aka something you're going to constantly lug around and will be seen in public with, choose literally anything else.

Thinkpads are more for people who want to do work stuff on them or feel more tech-savvy with unwieldy portable hardware despite never leaving their houses.

In case you care about aesthetics, portability and practicality, just get a normal laptop off the "Our offers this week" rack.
You'll be spending less money and get an overall better machine much more suited to your needs.

>>56486451
What flavor?

These are my usual steps :
1) Find a youtube install guide
2) Read the official handbook (if not in a rush)

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Post thinkpad wallpapers.

>>56493172
Thank you :D

>>56493093
Bait spotted but heck, I'll bite...

If you only focus on performance per coin then yes. Build quality is what you pay for. Way above average quality input devices, ruggedness, serviceability for example.
Heavy? Did you even bother to look up what they weigh compared to similar other brands/lines? Most of the machines you see discussed here are 4+ years old so look it up for comparable machines. Makes no sense to compare an X220 to a 2016 Macbook Air for example.

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>>56493202
here's a mashup I made of 2 existing thinkpad wallpapers

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Daily reminder that this is the only Express Card that will give USB 3.0 support on an X220 with a GNU/Linux OS.

>>56488642
>>56488830
I had to hardware flash the first time, but after that the write lock is removed, so you can update everything in the OS. Here is the guide I used:

https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/Hardware-Flashing-with-Raspberry-Pi

>>56493293
Is there a 54mm slim version?

>>56493487
Will it work with a BBB? I refuse to buy a Socially Just Pi

>>56493518
I've looked and could never find one that works outside of Windows. Also the ones that are different sizes I doubt will even working on anything past Windows 7 at this point.

As far as I can tell this is the only one that's more futureproof, or at least I was able to get it to work on Fedora 24, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, etc.

www.strawpoll.me/11169037/
www.strawpoll.me/11169037/
www.strawpoll.me/11169037/
www.strawpoll.me/11169037/
www.strawpoll.me/11169037/

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>>56493546
Yes, that will work too. I would have used a BBB, because I think you can use it without nonfree firmware, but I already had a pi.

Is there any reason to get the newer generations of thinkpads (eg. x1) other than portability?

>>56493633

battery life, warranty, probably faster

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Are these temps normal?

Suggestions for the cardbus type2?

>>56493701
No, but on meth they are.

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Does TPG know anything about this? Curious if I should bother cleaning it up. >>56494139

Just picked up an X220 tablet. It idles at about 65C. Is this normal?

>>56487076
It's actually a great machine.

>>56492255
Install tlp

>>56492712
Install too and set charge threshold to 40 - 80.

>>56494258
sounds like it's on the higher end, but it's not dangerous. What temps do you get during use?

>>56494487
About 75C to 80C. Might be worth taking it apart and dusting it. The guy who I got it off said it was sitting in a stock room for a while.

>>56494502
that's still not throttling temps, but dusting it off might reduce fan noise. Worth a try.

>>56485862
>lying on 4chan
There is no interface in T420 that would allow such speeds. Just kys

>>56488418
T430/X230 can also take the "old" keyboard from T420.

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Mine

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Not sure how to feel about this.

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Having some fun today /tpg/?

So today I got home and found my X200s completely drained for some reason. No big deal I thought, but now it won't take any charge.. The battery indicator is just blinking orange.

Am I screwed? The battery life was stellar earlier

>>56494808
Not really...

Are there any worthwhile upgrades I can do on my x220? I already have an i7 processor and 8GB of RAM.

>>56494961
an i9 processor and 16GB of ram

>>56494961
-two SSDs or 1 SSD + 3G modem
-16 GB of RAM (at the fastest speed the laptop can handle)
-IPS display
-palmrest with fingerprint reader if you don't have one

>>56495236
and a 9-cell battery

>>56494961
i7-3612qm quad core cpu + HT (someone with reballing station can help you)
16GB RAM
2TB HDD + mSATA SSD + WWAN (all three in one chasis, mSATA SSD + WWAN via special converter from 51nb OR if you like soldering - with a wire)
9cell battery + 6cell slice battery
1920x1080 IPS screen
USB 3.0 express card module
intel 7260ac wifi card (uses much less power than standard 6205)
eGPU (preferably 750Ti + mobile 100W PSU)
palmrest with fingerprint reader
camera

>>56488765
give the link to the nipples please

I love my t420 but I can't work at this screen resolution anymore.

What to get? 14" maximum if possible and reasonably cheap.

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>>56495333
well specced T430 with or without classic keyboard

>>56495333
W520.

>>56495347
He just said he needs a higher resolution, dumbass.

>>56495389
So he can replace the shitty 1600x900 screen with full hd one, fucktard.
Also he didn't state which screen he has - 1366x768 or 1600x900?
kys, dumbshit

>>56495347
doesnt it have the same resolution options as the 420?

>>56495401
The FHD mod can't even be bought anymore and it never worked right anyway. He'd have to get a T420s or T430s if he could actually source the board.

>>56485372
Can get a x220 for £120 worth it?

I have an evo 250gb I can stick in it

Would anyone know compatibility issues?

How easy is it to replace the HDD?

>>56495462
That sounds good, yeah. I have the same drive in mine. Swapping it is one screw.

>>56495428
It did work fine with T430. T420 had a problem with interference coming from the cpu power section.
Also it still can be bought from 51nb

Anyone else have an x201 with the speakers cutting out? I've got one that seems to overheat, and after about 2-3 minutes of playing audio it cuts out. Also, any good suggestions for cleaning this thing? It's putting an odd Oder.

>>56485862
How is the reliability on Crucial. Otherwise I'd buy a Samsung for the 10 year warranty meme

Out of interest does anyone use the ExpressCard slot in their Thinkpads for anything? I've been thinking about getting a USB 3 card for my X220.

>>56495731
Extremely relevant to you: >>56493293

Without opening it up, how would I know If I can put a WWAN card in my x201, or is it a case of
"if it doesn't have one already, you can't"?

>>56495757
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X201

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>>56493293
daily reminder you're fucking stupid
pic rel will with with x220

>>56495773
> None (empty, not upgradable)
> None (empty, WWAN upgradable)
My guess is to message support with your serial. If it's like Helix WWAN antenna is either embedded into main body or impossible to add so modem won't work. Support should know which one you got.

>>56490691
CAD means Canadian money

>>56495801
I have one of these. How can I get it running under windblows 7, actually what the hell are they called. Need drivers.

>>56496017
you should've received a cd with drivers
if not identify the device in device manager first. It's probably renesas or some fucking thing.

>>56494215
I think your grandma shat on F5.

>>56495325
>preferably 750Ti
why? Why not gtx 960 for example?

>>56496064
>you should've received a cd with drivers
No such luck sadly, it came with the machine.

>>56495731
External GPU.

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Hi guys!

Got this x230t today!
Has 16gigs of ram, a 180gb SSD, an intel i5 3320M, and I want to get into linux on that. Which distro do you recommend for a complete beginner, who wants to switch from long years of using windows to linux. I already lurked on some threads about this, and some people say Ubuntu and Mint are great for beginners, but I also saw people saying that they are shit, and recommended other distros like Debian Fedora, or RedHat/CentOs etc...
Keep in mind that im not afraid of working for it, and learning hard, but please dont hit me with the most difficult distros. (i heard arch is pretty difficult)
What i want to achieve/use the machine for:
-Regular internet browsing (including youtube, emails, stuff like that).
-Occasionally image editing (used photoshop on windows before, what options do i have on linux?).
-Learning how to use a linux, possibly as a server admin/system administartor.

Thank you for your time and help! Have a nice day! <3

>>56496298
Antergos.

Basically Arch but with a friendly GUI installer and if you have any issue the Arch wiki has you covered, also it's rolling release and just werks.

>>56496298
Xubuntu

>>56496298
Trust me on this one, start with Ubuntu and after like 3 months try other stuff. It's been around forever and updated regularly. I tried arch and it gets tiring googling shit every 2 minutes to get things to work, download, update or uninstalled

>>56496298
>>56496385
Or Chakra. Go Chakra.

>>56496179
750ti can be fully powered via pci express slot, so you don't have to use ATX PSU to provide power via 6pin connector

>>56496449
But Expresscard doesn't provide anywhere near as much power as a proper PCI-E slot. You need a PSU no matter what card you use.

Is the egpu worth it or just a meme? I have a desktop with a gtx 960 strix and I'm getting an x230 with an i5 3320m for uni, I'll be living in a dorm and go back home for like a weekend every 4 weeks. Should I even bother taking the gpu with me and buying a PSU? What kind of performance willI get without an external dislay?

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>>56496476
You need a mobile 12V PSU.
See?

>>56496705
For me it's worth it however i only use a gtx 950 because my only requirement is CS:GO and emulators.

Running it from the ExpressCard slot on my T420 which is pcie x1 i lose between ~5 and 7 fps in Furmark compared to my desktop which is fine for me.

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>>56496790
also here's the egpu after cleaning up

>>56495326
10pcs Laptop Nipple Rubber Mouse Pointer Cap for IBM Thinkpad Little TrackPoint Red Cap for Lenovo Keyboard Trackstick Guide
http://s.aliexpress.com/vuINRVrU

There are other seller, check the comments, some guys say they are slippery, I'll wait to see

I want something that has :
>Good screen resolution
>Can run VMs properly without killing itself
>More than 1h battery

I'd like it to not weight 100 pounds and cost under 400 most likely. These 2 last ones are optional.

Is older thinkpad still in the run or should I look for some high end new laptop? I think the W could be cosidered, but which one is the best bang for the buck right now?

>>56496912
t520

>>56496819
>>56496790
The fuck is this sorcery.

>>56496912
W530

>>56496790
>>56496819
I made a DIY case for my eGPU + PSU.

Looks like shit but it works.

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>>56496928

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>>56496980
#swag

>>56496976
>>56496980
How much power are you losing in this setup compared to a regular PCI-E slot? Really nice btw.

Looking for a laptop that's fairly light and has good battery life, used for DJ'ing. So needs an i5 and 8GB ram. Less than £300. Won't be gaming on it. Recommendations? So far I've been recommended the T420, T430 and T440. Which of these is best value, or is there better for the price?

Also, how likely is it getting something that will quite quickly down the line?

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>>56497007
5-10%?
Not really noticable in any gaym. Benchmark software doesn't count.

>>56497007
You only feel the difference in benchmarks most of the time.

>>56497034
x220

>>56497038
>Doesn't count
Why would you say that? Genuine question. A benchmark is just a representation.

>>56497055
I see.

Can you do that eGPU with basically any vidya? I have a GTX 570 lying around, could be interesting to try. It's old but if the setup you're using can use interchangeable card I could check it out later.

Is there req? Did you document what you did? I'm just interested in eGPU and I know nothing about it, shit's cool.

>>56497084
Benchmarks uses much more bandwidth than any gaym available on PC.

>>56496791
Do all x230s have an express card slot?

>>56497111
Oh okay the bandwidth gets maxed where games don't have this behavior. The limit still stays the videocard itself I guess. Makes sense.

>>56486435
a THOUSAND dollars? what are you doing playing cod in class?

I just bought a 1400x900 T400 and I noticed there is a fixed pattern on the screen when displaying certain grey colors.

How fucked am I? Or is it a normal thing. Is it easy/cheap to replace the LCD?

>>56497084
>Can you do that eGPU with basically any vidya?
I don't see why not.

>Is there req?
An adapter (I use the EXP GDC, i think anon here >>56497038 is using the pe4l or something like that), a GPU and a port to plug it in to your laptop which can be ExpressCard, mini pci-e or ngff (imo the ExpressCard one is the best, just plug and play).

>Did you document what you did?
Plug the card in the adapter, plug the adapter in the laptop, turn on laptop, install drivers, reboot, done.

>>56497184
pe4l v2.1b and a 12V 10A generic PSU.

>>56497184
Oh and a power supply to power up the adapter and/or the GPU if it has one or more 6-pins.

>>56497184
Alright. I see from my research that you can also do more of the same with Thunderbolt, which if most laptops have soon you'd have actual eGPU sold as... standalone eGPUs. That could be interesting.

Are Thinkpads pretty much the only laptops to have an ExpressCard?

am i going to have to buy a linux friendly wifi card to get the refurbished t420 i bought to work with debian? it didnt say what card it has but everything's intel and it currently has win10

>>56496946
>>56496926
Isn't t520 basically the same size and underpowered W530?

>>56497358
Same size system, but it'll work with a normal 90W AC adapter instead of needing a special snowflake xbox huge 170W brick. It really makes a big difference to portability.

>>56497439
Ho god it has one of those. Are generation T520 and similar good with battery life? I had a fucking t61p and it died within 2 hours, shit was a scam on battery life.

>>56497471
Don't know about T520, but my W520 gets around 7 hours on a 9cell. Should be better on the T520 without the power-hungry Quadro.

>>56497439
Also why the fuck is it so hard to get one with 1920x1080 resolution. Should I just buy the best cheaper one with shit screen and change it? It's so hard to find something that isn't shit.

>>56497006
>>56497038
I want to do this so bad, unfortunately you can only add so much GPU to a dual core mobile CPU before the bottleneck outweighs the performance.

>>56497253
Has an Intel card. It'll be fine.

>>56497557
I'm running a quad core t420, works well.

>>56497606
I've got a quadcore W520. What's a good GPU to pair with it that can be used on the internal screen? I was thinking about the 1060, but I don't know enough to be sure. I'm open to AMD and would actually prefer it if I can use the internal screen, but I've heard that they can't.

>>56497606
Im guessing its one of the i7 models? Mine is just a dual core with hyper-threading which wouldnt be a terrible match for my GTX 750, but it would be fun just to try it with a 980 for the hell of it. Also, I suppose an i7 W520 would be good for this.

>>56497708
>Im guessing its one of the i7 models?
Yeah, the 2720qm. Overheating/throttling isn't a problem at all as everyone thinks and I've already posted autistic rants with temps about the subject that probably are still stored in the /g/ archive.

>>56497698
I'm using a 950 but with an external display, sorry but i don't know anything about using the eGPU with the internal display.

>>56497557
If you got the money you can replace the dual core cpu with quad core - i7-3612qe for example.

The more and more I get into higher end ThinkPad, the closer it gets to laptop from other companies brand new. I can get an aspire switch alpha 12 refurb for 550$ cad, which is basically the price of a decent one. It's hard to decide.

On one hand I have repairable but a brick with a good keyboard. On the other hand I have a tablet with a god damn gorgeous screen.

>>56495731
Sharkoon USB3 card with external USB power cable.
Has an older NEC/renesas chip and works fine.

>>56493293
What chipset does this even have?

>>56496215
Try AIDA64 and look at the PCI devices

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>I just bought a 1400x900 T400 and I noticed there is a fixed pattern on the screen when displaying certain grey colors.
>How fucked am I? Or is it a normal thing. Is it easy/cheap to replace the LCD?
Here's a photo of the screen. It's like salt and pepper all over the place when the colors are dark enough.

>>56498613
can u post a screenshot of this grey so i can test on my t400? 1400x900 screen here as well.

>>56497253
add the non-free repo and
apt-get install firmamre iwlwifi && modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi

>>56493093
It depends, Dell Precisions and HP Elitebook workstations until recently, had better hardware in terms of graphics, displays and sometimes processors.
But the standard line of Latitudes/Elitebooks for the most part, are equal to or comparable to ThinkPad hardware.
The reason why these laptops are more expensive than their consumer counterparts because of a more robust build quality (I'm not talking about probooks, E/L Series TPs, E5xxx/Vostro), a longer warranty and usually quick repair.
A lot of the business laptops use quadro or firepro variants instead of GeForce/Radeon HD graphics, so ofc gaming won't be as great, but these workstation cards are better for CAD/VIdeo Editing/Photoshop.
Thats why for the most part, you can get a cheaper consumer machine than the business variant, because usually they'll use lower build quality materials.

>>56498613
probably dithering, shitty panel

>>56494215
Just look up the parts/model number thru ebay
its not mechanical.

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>>56498763
>>56498690
Sure thing, it's the "dark theme" in visual studios

>>56497898
Except it has no clit and no dock port. Are you gay?

>>56497171
Try this
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php

>>56493266
>Way above average quality input devices
My X230 touchpad would like to disagree

>>56498613
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

T440 for £325

i5-4300U
8GB RAM
240GB SSD
1366x768 screen
Win 10 Pro (which is fine for me)
2 Year warranty

Worth it or no? Not too fussed on the trackpad thing, since this would be my first Thinkpad.

>>56499080
Why would anyone buy a laptop with a "clickpad"?

I have a X201, what is the best screen I can upgrade to?

>>56499106
The mac thread is next door m8

>>56499087
>http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
It could be static dithering (makes sense since its only for certain colors) but the pattern is very random. Strange.

>>56499305
Google tells me that it is occurring to other T400 users, too. My HP also had static dithering, but I don't really care as the screen is otherwise pretty good

Are x230/240 good or bad?

I see a few for sale at ok prices.

>>56499725
- chicklet keyboard
- refuse non-lenovo batteries

>>56499810
You had me at chicklet

>>56499398
Yeah the screen is surprisingly good otherwise. A bit frustrating though because the machine is mint.

If I can get the EDID information, how can I translate that into a manufacturer/model?

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>>56500236
Just use AIDA64, it will tell you

Are there any affordable thinkpads with an IPS/VA display that are better than a T60p?

>>56495512
Can you provide a link?

>>56500393
Better in what way?

>>56500891
I looked it up myself now, and all modern thinkpads really seem to be cheap chink shit quality wise, so forget my question.

>>56500546
I've found something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/14-WUGXA-Full-HD-IPS-EDP-LED-Screen-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-T420s-T430-T430s-/282163891026?hash=item41b2474b52:g:3noAAOSw6n5XvR4N

Is this legit?

My x220 is coming this Saturday, any advice for a first time Thinkpad owner?

>>56501019
Enjoy it.

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>>56500947
If you just want better specs than the T60p without giving up that delicious screen, get a 14" 4:3 T61 board and swap it in. Grab an Advanced Dock if you want a grafix upgrade.

>>56500961
Probably not. A richfag should buy one for science though.

>>56501084
My screen is pretty fucked up, dust and liquid somehow got into it. Is it even possible to take it apart and clean the layers?

>>56500961
No. This screen is edp. T420 does only support lvds 40pin panels.

>>56501288
Thats a bummer. Thanks anyway.

Where is the best place to buy a ultrabay hdd caddy for a T420? I don't want to spend much I really only want to get one because of the shit eject button on the DVD drive keeps ejecting the drive.

>>56494547
Terrorist watch confirmed

>>56500961
Found something like this. But price is ridiculous.
https://www.sgshop.com/taobao/tao-bao/details?tbid=43779473864&cid=50024111

Calling for richfag

>>56501963
>2560x1440
>intel GPU
Holy shit

>>56502054
It's actually possible to upgrade T420 to Ivy bridge, so it's not that big of surprise - better igpu. Dunno about T420s though.

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So this guy tried scamming me a while ago when I listed a Dell with a touchscreen. This was the last message I sent him

>>56499087
>have T420
>all squares up to 13 look the same
fucking lenovo ruins everything

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So, I was selling another computer on Craigslist, and I get this message. Fucker just doesn't learn

>>56502183
They look fine on my T60p

>>56502212
>not shipping waste to nigeria

>>56502245
I don't want to spend the money.
If I had decent money, I'd do the whole P-p-p-powerbook! thing

>>56495801
Willing to bet it doesn't work with GNU/Linux buddy

Why the fuck y'all recommending x220's? What can you even fucking do on 1366x768?

>>56503002
I'd rather 1366x768 than modern keyboards

>>56503002
>12"

>>56495721
I just got it, and the MX300 series isn't even a year old yet, so it's kind of hard to say. But Crucial SSDs have a pretty good reputation as reliable. It has a 3 year warranty; it's worth noting that only the 850 PRO actually has a 10 year warranty. the 850 EVO is 5 years.

>>56503074

that's completely idiotic. The only shortcoming of the modern keyboard is the six row layout. the keys themselves function as well if not better than the classic

>>56503087
And? It's still a fucking garbo resolution with no real estate.

>>56503074
I guess that's valid.

>>56503087
>not wanting at least 600dpi

mSATA ssd and drive caddy just arrived. About to be so comfy.

I'd still use my t61p, but somehow the battery literally randomly died. The batteries for this piece of shit cost more than a new t61p. Should I get some sort of external battery pack for my phone + laptop type of thing? It's like 100$, but would actually last longer than a 6 cell battery by a long shot(they're 23k mAh).

>>56485862
I don't think you can even get those 4k speeds on a notebook

>>56503203
Res is largely irrelevant when you live in the terminal and the keyboard makes that even easier.

>>56497038
Can you make it so it plays on the thinkpad's display?

Getting the Helix 2 refurbished with 8GB Ram 256GB SSD and Pro Keyboard Dock for 400 bucks, good deal?
the Core M-5Y71 variant of course.
Thoughts?

>>56499093
Not a thinkpad expert here, I recently got my T430 after looking at T420, T430 and T440 in my country and decided to go with T430 for a few reasons
The T430 was anywhere from 150-200 less bucks than the T440, from what i heard the cpu of the t440 isn't noticeably faster than the t430, the integrated graphics is a bit better though. The trackpad of the t440 isn't just bad to use, but it gets in the way when you're typing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY
I added a used samsung 850 evo (it only had 33 hours of use, 20 times powered on, works perfectly fine and saved 20 bucks) and another stick of ram to have 16GB in dual channel. The T430 is so fast for me it works better than my desktop and i'm very happy with it.

>>56503341
>mSATA ssd
which one? how is it?

I'm getting a msata 850 evo tomorrow for my T420, can't wait.

https://www.amazon.ca/Portable-Charger-RAVPower-23000mAh-External/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473379091&sr=8-1&keywords=laptop+power+bank

This to power up my t61p instead of a battery(I don't know how long I'll keep my t61p, probably not long). Thoughts?

Folks running eGPUs, do you find your cpu to be a bottleneck?

>>56503882
Not at all.

Just got my T40, guy who sold it said it was missing a hard drive but it has one. Trying to get past the password on login right now. What should I do with it after?

man I just bought a thinkpad solely becuse I like good keyboards i am like the most basic microsoft word 4chan browsing compter user ever
and yet im still going autistic over not getting a 1600x900 model

>>56504114
Couldn't you hook the hard drive into your desktop, boot from your normal drive, and look in it that way?

I just bought a used 4GB T420s on ebay and ordered a brand new Samsung pro 840. Oh, and a new touchpad sticker, since it's worn out badly. I'm very excited guys, I've been wanting a thinkpad for months after reading all the reviews, seeing the pictures, and hearing your glowing recommendations!

>>56504368
just swap the screen, it's easy as fug

>>56504368
Here you go, anon, this should help!
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/T420_and_T430_HD%2B_Screen_Upgrade

I currently have a macbook air and am looking for a tiny laptop to do some hacking

is thinkpad the way to go?

>>56504465
>>56504482

i should eventually (and thanks for the guide!) but money is a bit tight for me (student) after buying the laptop in the first place. Canadian tax and shipping bumped the price up almost 100$

this is what i picked up btw

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/lenovo-lenovo-t430-intel-core-i5-2-6-ghz-12-gb-of-ddr3-memory-500gb-sata-hard-drive-dvd-rw-windows-7-pro-64-bit-1yw-refurb-t430/10432639.aspx?path=dc9cf41ce430bceab9c56370829803ffen02

>>56504558
>money is a bit tight
>spends $409 on a shitposting machine

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>>56504780
I said I was a student not that I was smart

>>56504558
Quebecer here, might get that shitposting machine too. It's actually such a better deal than ebay.

>>56504558
>>56504846
Fag that replied to you... what's the screen resolution on that? Is it the scam screen version?

>>56504846
>>56504871
I will respond to myself, yes it was scam version.

>>56504846
if youre in the montreal area like me and you feel like taking a risk with kijiji

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=1196577483

>>56504114
I installed a CF to IDE adapter in my t30 and I got a PATA SSD for my x40. The flash storage is a lot faster. I have Debian with MATE installed on both of them. The t30 has a serial port built in, so I put CHIRP on it for programming my radios.

>>56504906
>http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=1196577483
>1366x768
I rather kill mineself. I am in Sherbrooke for uni too, so it's fairly far.

Just ordered a T560 with thumbprint reader and 1080p resolution for 1100 CAD after tax :3

>>56504939
what's wrong with 1366x768?

i have a sick fantasy of having my laptop double as my home desktop, but hooking it up to a bunch of peripherals when i get home like a TV screen, comfier keyboard and mouse, etc. but would there be a way to beef up the computing power for stuff like photoshop without having just as well buying a desktop?

>>56503403
If you can solder then just replace the cells

>>56505132
Thinkpad Ultrabase dock makes that convenient. W520 has a socketed CPU, so you can have a quad core CPU if it doesnt come with one. eGPU if you want to game.

>>56505047
dude

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>buy an x200
>install trisquel
>can't be remotely disabled or spied on since it has a core2 duo
>replace proprietary lenovo bios with libreboot
>replace intel wifi with atheros chipset that uses opensource driver
>mfw being superior to all you shmucks who fall for lenovo PR meming on here and buy newer thinkpads

>>56505177
i have a t420.. is it not possible? :(

>>56505274
>embedded controller is still proprietary along with GPU BIOS, synaptics, fingerprint reader, webcam and hard drive firmware

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>>56505132
I have my librebooted x200 hooked up to a dock. I have my desktop for when I need more power and more screens. The other output of that screen is hooked up to the GPU that I pass to a Windows 7 VM on my desktop for playing a few windows only games, and for my friend to use when he comes over. I have a mechanical USB switch for the hub on the monitor with the keyboard and mouse that switches it between the VM and the thinkpad. I undock the x200 and take it to classes every day.

>>56505274
I was using Trisquel, but now I am using Debian with the nonfree repos disabled. Trisquel did work well for a while. I may try it again once version 8 comes out.

>>56505314
Yes. Mini Dock Series 3 + quadcore CPU like this anon >>56497790

>>56505314
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Mini-Dock-433710U/dp/B002DUD36S

T420 should have a socketed CPU if you want a quad core, though I don't remember if it's directly compatible vs needing a mod. eGPU is compatible with any thinkpad with a expresscard slot.

>shitposting in total darkness
>suddenly the thinklight becomes useful

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>>56505345
>fingerprint reader
>webcam
>GPU
dude what, It doesn't even have those.

>implying embedded controller, synaptics or hard drive firmware have botnet access

>>56505646
Of course you have an iGPU, which has a bios too
>embedded controller
Can reset/turn off CPU, fuck up battery or let CPU overheat
>hard drive firmware
Can literally alter your files to contain virii
>synaptics
Not sure what it can do, but the one in the wikileaks laptop was destroyed by the british NSA

How do I clean my x230? I just got it and I was scared of using alcohol because it might mess up the coating.

>>56505711
Nail polish remover works great for getting rid of sticker residue and other blemishes.

Paid $140 for a seller refurbished x220 with 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, and i5 2.5 Ghz. Did I screw up?

>>56505367
Tell me about that sexy IBM floppy drive.

>>56506193
I got it for $3 at my university's surplus store. I don't use it often, but I like the aesthetics of it. IBM has a nice logo.

>>56505345
>fingerprint reader
but you can just use fprint, no?

>>56506323
Authentec fingerprint sensors actually store your fingerprints in itself and do some weird shit.

>>56506347
but you're not using any proprietary driver when you're using fprintd so there's no need to worry

>>56505047
dude

>>56496298

Install Ubuntu. If you want more later, install something more "advanced" once you get the hang of the terminal.

>>56505274
>tfw I fell for the i5 x201 meme

>>56506758
You could always swap the motherboard.

>>56506981
or i could just waste more money on another laptop I don't really need
>replace motherboard on an otherwise identical laptop

how do i into using the track point?
ive always used laptops with track pads and it seems really neat i just cant see using it as the main means for mouse input
how do i git gud

>>56505345
>GPU BIOS
doesn't have it
>synaptic
Already deblobed
>fringerprint reader
fprint
>webcam
you're joking right? Disconnected.

My only problem now is the internal microphone which I wish to disable but I can't be bothered opening her back up.

In the surveillance state we live in, only the X60, X200, T60, T400 and T500 represent freedom.

>>56507278
Make sure that you are using a configuration/script that lets you hold the middle button to scroll but also allows you to use it as middle click when you are not moving the cursor. That one change makes the trackpoint the best mobile pointing device. I even prefer it over a mouse depending on what I am doing, because you can keep your hands on home row.

Here is how to do it on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrackPoint

>>56504434
>T420s
hmmm on the one hand it doesn't have a shitlet keyboard and has a very decent cpu socket.

On the other hand, it contains the 16:9 jew

>>56507378
i already have that, the scrolling is awesome, and the center click thing is a godsend too, but i still dont see why i would use the trackpoint. it just feels inefficient

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Regarding the textured dithering, here is the culprit.

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>>56494547
Nice watch!

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>>56494547
>>56509079
I prefer the metal bracelets

>>56505408
Most of the Sandy i7 and some quad cores work out of the box. But you should flash the RAM speed unlock BIOS for 1866 clocked ram

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RIP X61 & X200, they'll be leaving my hands soon and I hope they do not get cumstained. :(

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>>56505047
Not everything is wrong with that, but I couldn't use a Dell Inspiron 13" after one day.

Are eGPU plug and play or do I need to restart each time. I want one that functions smoothly like the dock.

>>56499055
Only first 3 are undistinguishable on my 10 year old HP monitor. Not bad for something I bought few years ago for less than 100$

>>56502212
And how do you know he's not Nigerian prince who would pay you tenfold of what you were selling is worth? You need to have more trust in people.

>>56505711
Xylene works best if you have some standing around.

My T420 lags watching twitch. Is this twitches fault. This is about the only god damn thing that lags for me.

>>56509376
where can I get this sexy casio?

The seller I got my thinkpad from is not shipping it, already paid it but doesn't update the status to "shipped".
It's supposed to be sent via Int Priority Shipping.
Am I fucked /g/?

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>X220 i7 2rd gen 2.8GHz 8GB 240GB SSD
>$249.95 usd + shipping
what do you guys think of that price?

>>56510643
A bit overpriced imo

>>56510608
Ebay, they're about $15 shipped from Japan, model is A158WA-1JF

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>>56509376
>>56509079
>>56494547
Step it up

>>56507767
It is more efficient if you are doing a lot of typing. Do you have the acceleration set correctly? If the acceleration is wrong that can make them hard to use. Also, get a soft rim trackpoint cap.

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>>56510914
Shit Seiko you have there, m8.

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>>56512357
Cute "baby's first Seiko" you've got there. What other Seikos do you have?

>>56512831
Only that one.
I have an Omega Memomatic though.

>literally omega memewatch

>>56512878
fair play, I don't own anything nearly that valuable. I enjoy collecting Seikos a lot.

>>56512899
The Omega needs a new crystal though, I don't wear it much because of that.

My daily beater is that little Seiko, I use and abuse it.

I also have russian stuff and would like to have a Lord Marvel or something like that one day.