/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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Sup?

Just bought a Ducky 5 for my production hackintosh.

Anybody know where to get mac keycaps?

>>56380360
Any time someone asks about corsair or razer just save yourself the trouble and link them to my post


7) Why does it seem like /g/ hates Razer and Corsair mechanical keyboards?
- Razer has changed from Cherry switches to Kailh switches without reducing the price of their products
- While using Kailh switches isn't inherently terrible, Razer have switched purely to increase their profits

- Corsair mechanical keyboards have a certain aesthetic to them which attracts a specific demographic
- Corsair boards use a non-standard layout for the 5th row. This makes buying after market keycap sets difficult
- There have been reports of quickly dying LEDs on certain Corsair models
- RGB versions of this keyboard have had numerous issues with drivers and flickering

Oh yeah, what do we think about the edited OP image? Easier to spot if you're just perusing and stop people asking for a source.

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Waiting on keycaps

Would a pok3r be a bad starter board? Never used a 60% but I like the look. Does it feel good once you're used to it?

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>>56380360
ok let's get some recommendations going right from the start

so I received pic related today and I'm still debating if I want to get a separate numpad or not

>budget
50€? I don't know how much numpads usuallt cost

>location
Germany

>switch type
loving the mx clear switches on my pok3r so far so that would be nice. Even if it's not those it just has to be a 'quiet' switch

>layout
numpad

>form factor
numpad

>backlight
not necessary as my pok3r doesn't have backlight either

>previous/current keyboards
pok3r but no previous numpad

>>56380458
And yes, I know the kerning on big /mkg/ is awful - forgot to reset when I was fiddling before.

>>56380496
It feels great. More desk space, keyboard and mouse are closer together (so more comfortable) and keycaps are much less expensive for when you get hooked.

>>56380412
You can get blank keycaps.
If you want the apple font I don't know where you can get those, but I know places like das and wasd keyboard where they sell just the 4 keys you need to convert it to the apple layout, or if you want the hotkeys as well

>>56380423
razer has their own design, cherry probably just wouldn't make razer's design or it would be prohibitively expensive

>>56380506
A good keyboard has lower case lettering. Upper case is easier to write but lower case give more hints of the character's shape.
Yes, I should learn to touch type but...

>>56380565
hmm yeah some lower case keycaps would look nice

doesn't really matter when you touch type though

>>56380559
they're still made by kailh

>>56380506
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=search_list&s[short_desc]=Y&s[search]=Leopold+FC210TP
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kc21-mechanical-numpad?mode=guest_open
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/npkc-switch-tester
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rf_numberpad
etc

>>56380360
Quick question, if I accidentally spilled a beer on one of these (let's say about 6oz/177ml) would it work well and not stick?

>>56380606
>MANUFACTURING
>Razer controls the entire manufacturing process of each switch, even the blueprint. This, in addition to the years of research and development, have resulted in a switch that surpasses the competition in durability, and features the tightest tolerance levels. Having control over the production gives Razer the opportunity to constantly innovate with new technologies, so you enjoy nothing but the very best.

>>56380633
unplug it and bathe it 99% isopropyl alcohol

>>56380626
this is great thank you very much anon :)

>>56380655
Oh gee that makes me feel a whole lot better coming from Razers own mouth. I know that kailh has had issues with their machining process before, but it sure is nice that Razer spent the hundreds of thousands of dollars getting better equipment and just giving it to them instead of making it themselves. I wonder why kailh doesn't use the new tools they have to improve the already poor quality of their switches. Maybe asking razer again will shed some light inot the situation

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ready for chinese cartoons

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I need a wrist rest. Any recs?

>>56380556
I'm looking specifically for some that are LED compatible.

>>56380723
how about you look at the finished product instead of being such a brand whore, just because it has the kailh name on it doesn't automatically mean it's bad, many people have bought razer mech keyboards and are happy with them

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Hi guys. No bully.

[spoiler]Anyone have one of these? Having firmware issues.[/spoiler]

>>56380810
can't find any that are LED compatible just the keys like command and option, but they are in pretty colors like blue, red and green

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hello!

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>>56380925
I had the apex raw once, it died on me within 36 hours of receiving it. Then I got a refund and ordered a mech.

It was a piece of shit, but if it hadn't been I wouldn't be knees deep into this shit, so I can't say that I regret it that much.

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is there somewhere i can get cherry compatible caps that have japanese characters on them?
something like pic related, but Japanese

>>56380925
Maybe you should read the thread title, and post your stupid question in the stupid question general.

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>>56381034
You mean like this?
There is also a Hiragana set. The one pictured is Katakana

>>56381082
Shouldn't you read the board title and maybe take yourself to the /au/tism board?

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>>56381099
>>56381034
They sell them as a base set. The modifier keys, TKL set, and numpad are extra

>>56380991
bestest in this itt

>>56381099
>>56381136
I had been hoping for something with both the english and japanese characters on the keys, but those are pretty cool as well. Thanks anon

>>56381112
What the fuck kind of response is that? You're a literal newfag retard thanks for showing it

what is your favourite subreddit guys?

>>56381186
what do you think

>>56381112
>/au/
Off to leleleddit with you

>>56381112
let me help you
>>>/r/pcmasterrace

This isnt /mkg/ but someone here would probably know best.
Anyone know of any good optical mice with 5 buttons, perfect sensors, and dont have a gamer aesthetic. I want an accurate mouse because I do play games but I dont want people to know I do.

>>56381308
logitech g303 is an almost perfect fit. Its $30 and if you turn of the LEDs it looks normal

>>56380925
>diagonal directional keys
What the fuck is this

>>56381308
get a razer deathadder it doesn't look too crazy, you can turn the lights off, it's normal to have that kind of mouse

>>56381186
/r/lipsthatgrip

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>>56381308
Zowie

>>56381371
lol nice

>>56381371
sounds gross

how can i improve my typing speed D: i can type maybe 85-90 WPM

i noticed that i only use 6-7 fingers when i type "quickly" (for lowercase words like on 10fastfingers.com, not with capitalization and punctuation):
>left ring finger
>left middle finger
>left index finger
>right thumb (space only)
>right index finger
>right middle finger
>right ring finger (backspace only)

how do i undo this bad habit and learn to type properly D:

>>56381586
>>right ring finger (backspace only)
or P too

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Bought a Azio MGK1 for $20 from craiglist. How'd i do?

>>56380496
Starter boards are a dumb concept.

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>>56381586
>85-90 WPM
dang how do I get good. I recently gotten a mechanical keyboard after years of using a chicklet keyboard. I have this problem in which when moving my fingers from one key to another I accidentally hit another key in the process since the caps are much bigger then I expected. This causes me to go back and correct the mistake. What kind of practice can I do to get better?

>>56381627
man I wonder if I will get banned from posting this picture of a used keyboard with the caps taken off and there are pubic hairs and cum stains underneath

>>56381872
i just started doing this for maybe 10 mins and it seems really great, i'm not trying to type very fast just trying to type correctly and fix my muscle memory. it seems there will be far less movement required once you learn proper touch typing

http://www.keybr.com/page/practice

>>56381938
i mean 85-90 WPM was with my sloppy style, trying to learn proper touch typing now

>>56381308
ducky secret if you dont like logitech.

>>56381938
I've been doing this for 15 minutes now and I've only gotten E A T I O N as keys

tfw want a brown key 80% back light KB and not one store in CAN sells them.

fucking shit hole only sells the ducky one TKL without back light, what a garbage

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>>56382341
it uses an algorithm to introduce characters at the right pace to help you learn. it already seems to be extremely helpful for me (but i'm a fast learner so YMMV)

>Budget
$100-$150
>Location (continent at least)
Scandinavia
>Preferred switch type
Brown
>Layout
ISO, but I can get used to ANSI if that's a problem
>Form factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Razer Blackwidow (blue)
CM Quickfire TK (brown)
Steelseries 6gv2 (black, current)

Thanks!
Also, best place to buy Korean keycaps?

>>56381895
if it's oc you shouldn't get banned

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Anyone tested MX Silents here? Wondering if they feel smoother than reds.

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Hi

Finally getting a plate so I can complete my build

Rate my build plan

>Silver hammer case knock off
>GON matte silver universal plate
>GH60 PCB Rev. C
>MX Silent in clear switch housings harvested from a Corsair Strafe RGB
>No backlighting
>ISO layout physically, custom software layout
>Keycaps will change, but currently planning two tone PBT blanks

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I just picked up the Code keyboard from WASD with Cherry MX Green switches.

>>56382562
I haven’t tried normal MX red, but they seemed smooth.

I sold some to my friend who opened them to replace the springs, he thinks there’s lubricant on the slider

http://i.imgur.com/iXIeoj0.jpg

so maybe

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>>56380412

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-set/104-key-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

This gives you layout options. Choose which Mac layout you want your caps to be in the customizer

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>>56382888
why should she get a whole new set when all he needs is just 4 keys
8 dollars is a whole lot cheaper then 50
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys

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>>56382957
they even have option keys

>>56382480
>iso layout
That limits your options to just about nothing. Look at cherry.

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I want the 1976 layout but I can only find it on alibaba for $45 as a cherry OEM. Should I go for it, or will it drop soon?

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>>56383046
oops wrong image

>>56382957

Start new and fresh with all matching keys? Take the ones needed and have the rest for extra in case some caps get worn? man, I don't know. Anon didn't specify an exact amount or exact price. I did still answer the question and tried to help.

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>>56383059
I really wish that I could get my hands on one, but even if it drops I don't think I can afford it. This set just doesn't look as nice

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>>56382341
>>56382423
actually you can skip ahead with the arrows on the top right but i've just been going at it without skipping ahead and i think the pace is good

>Budget
Poorfag college student. <$50?
>Location (continent at least)
Midwest, USA
>Preferred switch type
Unsure
>Form factor
100% or TKL
>Backlight
Preferably, but probably not in my budget
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech K120

Is it even worth upgrading from the K120 unless I can get something >$100? I believe I saw in a thread a month ago, someone mentioned the Tomoko 87 Key Keyboard with blue switches. It's about $36 on Amazon and appears to have decent reviews, despite generic Cherry clones.

Filco or Ducky?

>>56383492

https://www.amazon.com/LINGBAO-JIGUANSHI-Keyboard-Computer-Mechanical/dp/B01EWB91ZC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1472785712&sr=8-6&keywords=cherry+mx+green&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K552-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B016MAK38U/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1472785840&sr=8-8&keywords=cherry+mx+green&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011

Couple options to check out for a budget but still decent reviews keyboard. Hopefully this helps open some doors in your mission for keyboard purchase.

>>56383636
Filco is riding on reputation at this point.

>>56383492
Monoprice has a sale right now for a backlit mechancial keyboard with outemu switches for 45 bucks

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>>56383492
>>56383808
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/product/details/13788
This is it. Its a 8/10 keyboard. For that low of a budget dont expect anything fancy

>>56383636
Want a reliable, boring, ugly, sturdy, wired keyboard? Go with Filco.
Want a gay pride backlight that rains white cum when you type, removable cable, and to save a little bit of money? Go with Ducky

>>56383896
You know ducky makes non backlit keyboards with PBT caps

>>56381308
SS Rival if you turn off the LEDs.

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>>56381308
People are hyping the Logitech G Pro. Looks like an office mouse so if you turn off the LEDs, you'll probably be able to get away with it.

>>56380817
yeah theres also many people in this country with toyota camrys but that doesn't make it better than my porsche

>>56383987
porsche is owned by volkswagen

just because a passat (kailh) isn't that great doesn't mean a 911 (razer) is bad

>>56383772
>"..thus, mechanical keyboard is very strong sense of paragraph"
Yes get that shit ass keyboard

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Where can I find replacement caps for my G710+? Both my Ctrl keys broke.

Generally speaking: how interchangeable are keysets between keyboards? The G710+ is not wavy or bent or anything. Can I just buy a set? because I've been looking to change my look up a bit for a long time.

>>56384095
You've got a non-standard bottom row so you're shit out of luck unless you want to individually order the right size keycaps.

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I want a tactile non-clicky switch that I can never, ever, ever bottom out.

What's my best option?

>>56381034
>>56381160
I've got you senpai. There's a red/black and purple/cyan version.

https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906334405

>>56384163
>that I can never, ever, ever bottom out
As in, literally impossible?

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>>56384163

>>56384163
clears

>>56384261

Where can I source these?

>>56384163
matias quiet click has a built in dampener

>>56384352

Hydraulic, pneumatic, electrostatic, elastomer, or other?

>>56383126
alright i'm taking a break but i can pretty much touch type now, not very fast maybe around 50 WPM, but that's with consciously making sure i almost never deviate from the "correct" style

it was much faster to learn than i thought, sure i've spent 4 hours on it but i thought it would take like weeks to learn, but i still have to work on improving my speed while maintaining reasonable correctness

>>56380991
>>56380360
I'm putting together a gaming PC and I want a no frills, minimal mechanical keyboard.

Where do I buy minimalist keyboards like these? I tried searching for "Duck Viper" but couldn't find much.

>>56384713
Most popular and highest quality retail Cherry 60% is the Pok3r, which is probably what's pictured.

>>56384713
You should figure out what's best for you.
Do you want tactility, feedback, or speed?

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>>56384772
>implying you can't have all three

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>>56384797
>implying having all three wouldn't be the worst typing experience ever

>>56380745
How did you manage to put that spacebar on the Leopold? Is it a new model with better spacing or did you mod the stems? I'd like to put my granite set on the fc660m.

>>56384804
hence why browns are so shitty, tries to emulate all three and ends up feeling like dirty reds

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wtf so are keyboards staggered just because of typewriters? are grid layout keyboards better or are they just a meme? the left hand keys above/below the home row sure are awkward with the stupid scheme in pic related. or maybe the keys should be staggered but with the left index finger on C etc?

>>56384804
>take any clicky/tactile switch
>wow you can feel when it actuates!
>wow you can hear it slam against the backplate!
>wow it activates at exactly the same speed as every other switch!
chemin gamiana

>>56384895
That is untrue

>>56384899
You've got to be some kind of idiot then.

>>56384911
switches that are heavier take more time to press down

>>56384867
unless you have shoulders of a somalian infant, cnances are you angle your hands inward.

stuff like the ergodox solves any center or edge reach problems, but those fixed ortholinear boards are dumb as fuck to me.

I'm tempted to just get a Rosewell 9000v2

There's nothing fancy about it, which is fine with me.

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>>56384713
my pok3r if you're interested.

>>56384925
yeah but the left hand keys are angled the wrong way, at least in formal style touch typing

>>56384940
It's gay and expensive.
If you want something cheaper and less fancy get an old alps keyboard on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Model-AT101W-Mechanical-Keyboard-with-Black-ALPS-switches-/122105982111?hash=item1c6e156c9f:g:fEwAAOSwgmJXxHgI

Serious question.
Why have a top row of number keys when you could just displace the whole set to a keypad?

>>56384973
It's more work to pick up your wrists to move to a numpad than it is to reach up there.

>>56384973
they're used for symbols other than numbers

also proportions

also a numpad gets in the way of your mouse or wastes lateral desk space

also >>56384983

>>56384957
or i guess you angle your left hand differently so it makes sense

>>56384969
The blue cherry switch is 63.99 on Amazon right now. A lot cheaper than a bunch of other keyboards with cherry switchs.

You got a problem with being gay? What's "gay" about it anyway?

And don't those old Dells have low key rollover?

>>56384983

But that's wrong, you idiot...

A keyboard with a numpad is way more user-friendly than one without.

>also a numpad gets in the way of your mouse or wastes lateral desk space


Use a narrower mouse.
or a >>>trackball
which is an objectively better input device anyway.

Like... if any in this thread considers themselves an input device hobbyist and uses a mechanical keyboard but does not use a trackball, they are legitimately trolling.

>>56385004
new Cherry switches are awful

gay is bad and you should feel ashamed for being gay

that's a placebo

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>>56385004

Blues are literal trash

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>>56385020

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>>56385020
>narrower mouse
>implying that fixes anything
>fucking up shoulders is user friendly
>have to shift a full-size over to the left to unfuck the positioning, but that's even more fucked up in its own regard

>>56385041
He's right about trackballs, but the optimal layout is
60% and trackball

>>56385057
it depends on how wide your shoulders are, and either way an ergodox + trackball can fit all those needs

>>56385028
Cherry switches seem pretty norm here to me. Sure fooled me then.

That's besides the point, what's "gay" about it?

Low key rollover was common on Dell keyboards. Not exactly a placebo.

>>56385029
Just used it as an example. Blacks are 71.99.

>>56384772
>Do you want tactility, feedback, or speed?
>implying
Yeah, I just need a nice keyboard - as soon as you go down that rabbit hole, I'm going to end up with 9 keyboards, 18 switches, with custom caps, my own studio set, searching for the perfect keyboard , spending all my time in /mtg/.

To give you an idea of the type of person I am, I do 99% of my typing on a macbook pro.

>>56385101
Pok3r PBT.
>>56385098
If you're going to get a cheapo mechanical, you might as well go for a board with knockoff Cherries.

>>56385098
Cherry's are awful nigga older ones are okay

>>56385123
cheapos are bad quality if you want a cheap mech get an old alps nigga

>>56385028
>that's a placebo
shiggy diggy

>>56385098

OK, so I own a ton of keyboards both vintage and new. Here's the deal about Cherry and clones:

New MX blacks aren't as smooth as vintage blacks, but the same is only slightly true for blues and greens. MX clears in my Maxine (20 years old) and Pok3r (new) have the exact same feel.

If you can get any of them for the same price as Otemu or Kailh, go for it. Gaterons have the benefit of being smoother than Cherry in some cases, but the same isn't true for those two.

You can get an awesome clone board for 50 bucks, 70 with gaterons and 90 with cherry is the norm for TKL. I suggest reading thru some archived threads for people that actually own these.

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>>56385149
Go to bed you poor-ass brit. Getting some sleep might fix that hairline of yours.

>Budget
$100-200

>Location (continent at least)
Unites States

>Preferred switch type
Cherry Browns

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Full keyboard preferred
Tenkeyless ***

>Backlight
Don't care

>Previous/current keyboards
Current Corsiar K70

Basically the K70 was my first mechanical keyboard because I liked how it looked and was really nice out of the box. After much use I was looking to replace the keycaps only to learn that they are near impossible to replace as a complete set. With that said, I'm basically looking for a base keyboard that I can fully replace keycaps when they get worn from use. Full keyboard is preferred but will also take tenkeyless board options.

>>56385178
leave mah boi out of this

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>>56385178
STOP MAKING FUN OF ME. MY HAIR IS FINE FUCK OFF.

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>>56385182
Barebones Novatouch with a PBT dye-sub/doubleshot keyset.

>>56385182
There are some sets that include corsair-specific keycaps, like https://www.aliexpress.com/item//32702357890.html . No idea about quality of that one in particular, but it's an option.

Anyway, you can get WASD fullsize barebones for $100-125 depending on switch type, and at the moment they have all cherry switch types in stock.

If I have an old rubber dome keyboard, classic beige. Can I paint it with spray paint, keys and all, and have it still work, provided I get some sticky labels to put on the keys afterwards?

>>56385272
it'll mess up the feel of the board niu

>>56385182

I also like using the wrist rest which came with the K70. Would be nice if suggested keyboards can also come with an optional wrist rest. Not a deal breaker though.

>>56385286
Just buy a wrist rest separately if you need one.

>>56385281
Is there any way to change the color of a keyboard, then?

>>56385304
Yes, but you have to dye the caps and sand down the board if you spray it

>>56385294

Any suggestions? The wrist rest of the K70 is just a thin plastic which gives the needed elevation and angle I want. Wrist rests that I find online are the faggy gel and plush ones that I do not find comfortable.

>>56385304
disassemble and plastidip is probably the easiest way

fair warning that the black color gets all kinds of lint and shit real quick

>>56385123
Whats the difference between ABS and PBT? Amazon only has the ABS in Reds.

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>>56385356
ABS is going to look like this after a few months.

>>56385356
abs yellows and shines after a while

>>56385356
ABS is the standard plastic used for every keyboard whether it be membrane or mechanical. It's the kind that gets glossy and nasty after a bit of use. PBT is a harder plastic that keeps its texture a lot longer.

>>56385325
Well, I've seen some wooden wrist rests that have similar shape to one on K70. Those are expensive though. Not sure if there are any standalone plastic ones.

The problem with looking for a keyboard that has a wrist rest included, is that it's only a thing with gayman keyboards like your old one.

>>56385123
Not necessarily cheapo. More focusing on nice, simple and functional. Just nice key rollover and solid switchs. Windows key lock for gaymen as the sprinkles on top.
>>56385149
How can you tell which switches are the old ones and which ones aren't? Should I even bother with cherry then?
>>56385169
Seen some tenkeyless under 50 that all seem to be Otemus. Gaterons seem a bit harder to come by and Kailhs seem a tad more common.

I'll probably get a full KB anyway though because I've been used to them for years already.

>>56385448
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1685
Look at the other versions too.

>>56385411
Can you send a link to that wooden wrist rest? My dad happens to be a foreman at a cabinet shop and you'd be surprised what that man can do with his hands. I'm certain he could make a replica just by looking at it.

>>56385494
>Get fussed at that cherry blues are shit
>Get suggested something with cherry blues

I don't understand how this went full circle.

>>56385563
I think you're confusing me for someone else.

>>56385571
I didn't mean to imply anybody was anybody. Just that it started with me being told cherrys were shit and then somebody ends up suggesting something with cherries.

Not that I mind. I've not had a mech keyboard before. It'd be an improvement over this cheapo logitech membrane keyboard, that's for sure.

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>>56385559
Well, I type "wooden keyboard wrist rest" and get results like the image, or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CHK3AGC .

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Lads, some dopey cunt spilled cordial on my ducky shine 3 about 8 months ago. I disassembled it and soaked it in water overnight then let it dry for a few days and its been working fine since and none of the switches feel sticky, but should I be worried about the minerals and all that shit in the water causing some sort of latent damage!

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ALPS are real nice, but unless you're wanting to desolder and make a custom board, options are limited to vintage stuff.

>>56385626
yeah, I would clean it the PCB with 99% isopropyl and soak the caps in denture tablet water.

corrosion is a bitch

Looking at a Noppoo Nano 75s

>tiny design with media and arrow keys
>cherry mx switches
>retro look

Any opinions?

>>56385678
Why not mini? Only one column wider, and you get dedicated arrows and navigation keys.

I like mine.

>>56385703
Slightly more expensive where I live. Did you have to mess about with the debounce settings to get it to work properly?

>>56385718
Mini doesn't come with software. Everything works fine.

>>56385758
no

>>56385774

why?

>Budget
100$
>Location (continent at least)
Russia
>Preferred switch type
Never had mechanical keyboard
>Layout
ISO, but ANSI is fine too
>Form factor
Full
>Backlight
I need it
>Previous/current keyboards
Never had mechanical keyboard, ever.
Used couple of them, liked the feel, decided to get one.
I like tactile feel, browns seems like a good choice for me.

Planning to buy Roccat Suora.

>>56380991
is that the bluetooth one?

>>56385370
>Months

Years. The ABS set on my work keyboard is still fine after about 2 years. Just waiting for PBT ISOs to come back in stock on mechsupply now...

>>56386003
Most used keycaps on stock ABS keycaps I had got shiny after a few months of daily use. After two years most letters and all modifiers were shiny.

>>56386114
I've always had reasonable experiences with them, OEM or Custom. Nothing on PBT though. Maybe I'm lucky.

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>>56380655
>>56380723
just had to restore my windows machine because of a trojan that came with razer software for their blackwidow keyboard. apparently this vulnerability has been around since 2009. DO NOT BUY RAZER

>>56386225
Either lucky or you don't use them that much. Plenty of people have same experience as me, some even say it takes them weeks to make ABS shine on home row keys.

The cheapass blank PBT set that I used for one year got a bit less rough that it was on purchase, but nothing looked like it was going to start shining anytime soon.

>>56380817
But they've been shown to be exactly the same in construction. Ripster (I think) did a whole post on them.

>>56386371
people will ignore all the facts in the world to justify their bullshit brand loyalty on here. especially gaymers.

nevermind the hundreds of hours in research on deskthority and geekhack, i got muh RGB

>>56383031

I got one of those.


>>56385642

>heavy breathing intensifies

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Last thread I was left to my own choices, so I went for this.

How badly did I fuck up?

>>56386890
>non-standard bottom row

>>56386890
there must've been 20+ decent suggestions in the last thread

if you call that being left to your own, you deserve that junk

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the D key on my corsai k70 just broke
this is after I broke the "ergonomic gamer keycap" for the D key as well, the stock cap is now mostly faDeD where a D was suppose to be

what am I getting next /mkg/?

>Budget >=100
>Location (continent at least) NA
>Preferred switch type R/B
>Layout
>Form factor
>Backlight Prefered multicolor, not reD Dimmable if possible
>Previous/current keyboards Corsair k70

>>56384259
holy shit, thanks anon

>>56380506
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-dx-20a-esc-key-wired-mechanical-digital-password-keypad/32689980678.html

white alps legit keypad, but comes from china and takes a while to come

GGGoot a 6GGGv222222222 tooodayy, III'''mm gladdd III juuumped iiiin. Wooorkkkksss sooooo weeelllll.

whats a fair price for granite elven these days?

specifically ergodox kit elven kit and extra modifiers?

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got a few mini-kishys, haven't decided what color to paint them (or bare metal?)

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My first mech keyboard, I like it.

>Budget
Really don't care as long as it's good value and decent quality (Obviously not something ridiculously expensive)

>Location (continent at least)
Australia

>Preferred switch type
Don't really care. Something a little bit quiet maybe. Would like something with a nice feel to it as I type/play but again, as long they will last and not be shit I don't mind.

>Layout
Dont care as I don't buy aftermarket keycaps

>Form factor
Don't really need extra media keys but would like the normal keyboard and numpad I guess.

>Backlight
Yeah I would like one with a backlight/RGB

>Previous/current keyboards
Currently keyboard is a TT eSports Challenger Pro Gaming Keyboard. It has a red backlight.

Basically I'm a massive faggot who wants a mechanical keyboard that lights up with pretty colours and will be good quality and last me. I was looking at a Corsair K70 RGB.

>>56387558
Masterkeys Pro L.

>>56384095
Maxkeyboards offer an option for logitech keyboards on custom sets http://www.maxkeyboard.com/ansi-layout-custom-backlight-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

>>56387578
Wow cheers anon, I just googled it then and it's pretty much exactly what I am after. Thanks for the fast response too.

What's a good place in europe to buy DSA keysets and shit?

>>56380360
okay so I just blindly got a K70 because of gamer meme status and during the first day a led burned out, then I googled and found out that it's really common and now I'm blogging about it here

>>56387718
also is there a similarly priced alternative that shits on this? because I can still return this poor quality piece of shit

I want browns

>>56387752
dozens of boards. ducky shine, filco majestouch, kbp v100, pok3r

strongly suggest getting clears instead, too. i have yet to meet anyone who didn't like them a whole lot more than browns

>>56387808
filco majestouch looks pretty nice so I might get that one, sure I'll try clears too

>>56384261
Why do I see a black penis

>>56387967
You spend too much time on /pol/.

>>56384162
>>56387597
Thanks for that so far. Maybe I'll look for used ones.
What's non-standard about my bottom row? I am able to select the size of the spacebar but I don't know which one to pick
Also, what do I do If my special keys at the side break? just replace them with non-special ones?
Also, what are european options. Dont want to pay 10 bucks for the postage alone.

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Any keycaps that you're looking forward to / waiting on /mkg/ ?

Pic related.

Why are brown's considered the worst switch? I've never owned a mechanical keyboard before, but I've been looking to get one recently. I don't really like the noise of mechanical keyboards, but after trying my friends logitech g900 (910? idk), it made me want one.

By my understanding of the chart, browns are the exact same as reds, but with a tactile bump?

>>56388147

I should add that it made me want a mechanical keyboard in general, not his specific l33t g4m3r keyboard.

I see lots of people having problems with steelseries 6gv2. Is it THAT much of an unreliable piece of shit?

>>56388147
because they try to be smooth, light and tactile at the same time, and end up not doing well at any of those.

it'll feel better than a rubber dome, but there's better choices for each.

>>56388147
Just get whatever feels better to you. Hating on browns is just a meme. I say that as someone who hates browns.

Just make sure to try other types of switches (linear and clicky) before deciding on which ones to get.

>>56381938
This may be the wrong place to post this, but is there anywhere online that teaches you to type on a kana keyboard like this? I already have a 130wpm and own some ANSI and ISO keyboards, recently got a moonrune one

>>56385642
they still make alps switches you know, not to mention there are also clones still in production

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>>56388064
Got me some SA Pulse Novelties, DSA Royal Navys and some extra stuff from GH in the post, and waiting on them SA Chocolatiers. Feels good man.

>>56388064
I've just recently gotten my mech board and I want to switch the keycaps. However everywhere I look the GB are closed or sets are sold out. I've looked at deskthority and massdrop but I couldn't find anything

>>56380991
What keyboard is that?

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Someone bls resbond

>>56387290
Where can I get wasd keys like that?

>>56388979
elite keyboards has some I believe

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>>56388064
GMK hydro GB starting next month.

Also, managed to get a JTK purple on /r/mm, and waiting JTK Sophmore.

>>56388979
>>56389150
I was kinda right
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=redwasd

>>56389185
Those are alright. I found out that the keys that guy had came with his keyboard (CM Storm Quickfire Rapid)

>>56389161
its gonna cost $200 for the full set isn't it

>>56388851
Pls i really need to know

>>56388029
Anyone?
I'd probably go ahead and buy an entirely new set, because I like having actual alphanumerical and function keys seperate colours

Where can I get pretty braided cables for my board?

>>56389446
https://www.keyclack.com/product/custom-sleeved-usb-2/
they also sell a kit for 6 bucks

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>>56388029
>>56389406
>What's non-standard about my bottom row
it means you can't get cheap replacement keycaps or else it will look like this
>Also, what do I do If my special keys at the side break? just replace them with non-special ones? I dont know if they are rubberdome like the early models or mechanical, but you can buy novelty keys for cheap like wasd: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/printed-keycap-singles/custom-art-cherry-mx-keycaps.html
that's just an example
>Also, what are european options
Check the buyers guide linked in the OP
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL

>>56389687
oops messed up the green text
>Also, what do I do If my special keys at the side break? just replace them with non-special ones?

I dont know if they are rubberdome like the early models or mechanical, but you can buy novelty keys for cheap like wasd: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/printed-keycap-singles/custom-art-cherry-mx-keycaps.html
that's just an example

>>56389687
Huh. That looks decently sharp.

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>>56389735
what the sunshine keycaps? They're like 40 bucks

>>56386114
because you're a greasy amerilard, your skin oils ruin the plastic

>>56385718
>>56385742
it has key combos to adjust debounce in case the switches start chattering after a while of use but you shouldn't need to do it from the start

>>56385678
i went with a mini but nano is really cool too especially if you don't need pgup/pgdn and fully dedicated arrow keys. nano indeed has that retro look and i think (not completely sure, maybe the nano miami poster can chime up on this) the keycaps are standard so you can get keycap sets more easily.

>>56389777
>>56389687
My Spacebar is 8 times longer than my Windows-key and 4.8 times longer than my ctrl key and 6 times longer than my alt-key
So am I going to have a huge gap between those keys instead?

>>56390019
>it has key combos to adjust debounce
or maybe not all versions, not sure, but at least some of them do

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>>56390080
http://imgur.com/a/6bbJB

Is there a tactile switch lighter than the MX Blue/blue clones that's not the shitty brown?

>>56390189
Wait, are we talking about length of the key or distance between the connections? because I was talking about length of the keys

>>56390311
which keyboard do you have? or post a pic

no more news on the shine 6 or the ducky software?

>>56390189
wait is that how a standard keycap set looks like on the K65?

>>56390379
No, did you not click on the link

>>56390080
>>56390189
>>56390340
I own the G710+
Pic posted here
>>56384095

After checking support and forums for a while, I noticed that broken Ctrl-Keys are a very common problem with this keyboard.
Funnily enough, there's an Ebay-seller that sells all spare keys individually and in sets.
The only key they're currently out off....is the Ctrl-Key.
WTF LOGITECH?
I think I'll go somewhere else with my stuff next time. i never use the special G-Keys anyway!

>>56385885
B-blease, respond
Are Roccat even good? At all?

>>56381308

g303 has the best sensor on the market and is generally fucking tits

i have it

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>>56380360
d-did I fall for a meme?

>>56390509
it's probably decent enough, i'm guessing it has ABS keycaps and you might be able to get PBT instead at your budget level (not sure with this full size form factor though). also if you haven't tried browns before you might get disappointed

>>56390655
Thanks, will go to nearest shop and try all the switches than!

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>>56385885

russian here as well, look around on avito, a dude was selling majestouch-2 for 5k

got a mint condition rapid-i with reds for 4.5k there, satisfied with my purchase, just need purple led covers now that are sadly not available at the moment

can also order a keyboard from aliexpress if you're up to it

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What is the point if a mechanical keyboard?

Dont they make more noise?

>>56390716
they feel better to type on and the noise can be desirable like the noise gives you feedback to let you know the key has been pressed

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cheapest 87 key mechanical with blue switches and backlight? getting tired of my reds.

>>56390716
mechanical keyboards have gotten cheaper since they exploded in popularity. You can now get them for 30-50 bucks with some basic features. Even though they are cheap they still have much better durability then rubber domes and usually last three times as long. More expensive keyboards have better materials and can last much longer. The IBM model F has a 30 year life cycle out of the box, and if you take real good care of it you can easily go bast 50 years.
The keys have tactile feedback which I like and since you can feel the actuation point you don't have to bottom out and you can type quicker. Switching to a mechanical added an extra 10wpm for me, though it may different to you

>>56381308
>but I dont want people to know I do.
Why does it even matter?

>>56390775
also it can be more ergonomic because you don't have to bottom out the key whereas with rubber domes you're constantly hitting your fingers against a more or less solid surface

>>56390793
I use like a $5 keyboard. I cant inagine 10wpm being worth $45 or more

>>56388979
>>56389185
>>56389244
The keyboard is a Cooler Master CM Quickfire XT and the red WASD key caps came with the package. There are also other key caps inside as well as a key remover and the PS/2 adapter, which I'm using right now.

>>56390871
if you're a programmer or a typist it can matter a lot

>>56390871
The feel and durability are worth the extra 30 bucks

>>56390902
My shits lasted nearly half a decade. Pretty goos for $5

>>56390707
I can't go for used keyboard, i better use something cheaper, but new.
I looked on Ali before, but everything was meh.
Now it's pretty good actually. Thanks.

>>56390977
and how much did your mouse cost? $50+ or are you using a $5 mouse too? because then you don't know what you're missing

>>56390977
My mechanical keyboard from 1988 is still going strong today, since it uses PBT key caps they will never wear out. In 25 years I wonder if your keyboard will still feel the same as it did brand new

>>56391053
There's no point in trying to convince people if they're just going to argue back like that.

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Please help me, not long ago i bought rapoo vpro tkl shitty mech board just to play games on but some keys are already fucked.

I need a tkl board that's not too loud and another thing that is massively important for me is if possible, excuse my layman description, to have keys that are a bit harder to press and take deeper press to activate. I was thinking maybe cm quickfire rapid but honestly i have no fucking idea what i am doing. I tried looking up even rubberdomes but i only find some horrible bluetooth boards.

pls send help

>>56391259
>to have keys that are a bit harder to press and take deeper press to activate
you could get heavier springs it's really easy to swap them

>>56391259
>but some keys are already fucked
are they broken or do they still work?

>>56388845
GBs tend to come in waves (by coincidence), some more nice stuff will come along soon

>>56391344
yeah but which board should i get
>>56391376
i can type but my a button doesn't register properly in games, sometimes it's like i don't press it at all and it's incredibly annoying

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>>56391399
I want SP SA or DSA profile key caps, but I can't seem to find any upcoming sets. The Yuri set was switched from SA to GMK OEM and every upcoming set just uses OEM profiles

>>56391425
okay do me a favor and hold down both shift keys and type the sentence:

the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

>>56391486
HE QUIC BROWN OX UMP OVER HE Z OG

jesus christ what the fuck?

>>56391533
that could be the issue, so get a keyboard with NKRO (No Key Roll Over)

>>56391425
>>56391533
lol and this dick said it was placebo: >>56385028

>>56391556
does that still happen when i don't hold shift? it happens when i usually press w+a or some other button +a

>>56391556
N key roll over

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>>56391556
>no key rollover

>>56391574
yes it affects other keys too

try this

http://www.gigahype.com/nkey-rollover-test-page/

>>56391596
Using that website everything seems normal. Thing is this started happening recently, and i used it just the same when i got it. Seems it can't register more than three keys but this happens ingame when i press like 2 keys only.

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My 1996 mechanical keyboard.

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>>56391556

the n in n-key roll over doesn't stand for no m8

So I got my first mech keyboard, the RK-9000V2 with brown switches. It's not nearly as heavy as I expected, and it's ridiculously easy to make mistakes just like with any cheapass logitech keyboard.

Next time I'm getting whites.

>>56384163
Zealios 78g.
And some o-rings because you still might.

>>56391742
clean that shit up and put some new keys on it

>>56388771
No, it's been over 15 years since the originals were in production.

If you're happy with matias and other clones by all means, but I'll stick with my originals.

>>56391565
it is. No one presses both shifts at the same time

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I've been using my Topre Type Heaven for years now. I would love to upgrade to a Real Force tenkeyless but trying to find one for a decent price is impossible. I don't feel like spending $200+.

>>56394866
it affects other keys too like in anon's game he can have at most 2-3 different keys active at a time and it fucks his shit up

>>56394936
>gamer trash

>>56394948
if you type fast it can fuck your shit too

NKRO is objectively better than shit KRO

>>56394995
It works for me and I type 170 wpm

>>56395053
>I type 170 wpm
ok buddy

>>56395096
I do

>>56394995
NKRO is a gimmick but the standard 6KRO that most modern mechanicals hace is fine by me.

>>56395168
sure you do

>>56395305
anon doesn't even have 6KRO

>>56395305
agreed, mine has NKRO and I never press more than 4 keys at a time. even more than 3 is a rarity (shift+w+space etc)

also the only excuse for a keyboard manufacturer to only have 6KRO is if the microcontroller is too weak because they cheaped out on it

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So I want to buy the CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro L.
This will be my first mechanical keyboard.
I wanted the S but I do alot of 3D modeling.
I'm a little worried about the lack of wrist rest.

What are /mkg/'s views on this keyboard? Does anyone have one?
Thanks.

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>>56394652
>No, it's been over 15 years
15 years lol more like 4
Anyway you can still find some alps keyboards in stock though the supply is slowly running out

>>56395305
you know that he has like 12KRO which might be his problem

>>56384163
MX Clear with 180g spring replacements

That’s enough to make it very difficult, really

>>56395796
Did you forget to read the first two sentences of the history section on that page?

>>56385626
Use Isopropyl alchol and give it a good scrub with a tooth brush. Its not to late to do it now either.

>>56396002
I couldn't see a history section just evolution
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_series#Evolution

>>56395677
Can anyone confirm I'm making a good decision?

>>56395677
Looks to be full of gimmicks, but CM is always a good choice for a first mk. Good choice.

>>56396358
how is it full of gimmicks?

>>56391452
gmk is not oem
gmk is cherry
cherry is good
oem is bad
also you probably won't like SA as much as you think you will
it looks cool as hell but SP has been iffy with QC recently and gmk is really the way to go

>>56396222
Well that's a different page from the screenshot

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKBL/SKBM_series#History which is here

>>56396457
may bad I just googled alps switches and click on one of the top results and took a quick glance

>>56396454
Okay thanks for the reply.
Anyway what are some upcoming drops that you are looking forward too. Hydro looks cool and that dropping in two weeks but I'm still looking forward to Yuri

>>56396358
Thanks, I'm not sure what gimmicks other than RGB. But I feel like I would kick myself for not getting RGB.

NEW THREAD:

>>56396737
>>56396737
>>56396737

>>56396707
get RGB my nigga