/spg/ - Smartphone General

hey /spg/, Xperia Z3 or the Moto G4 Plus?
Also, the LG G4 bootloop issue will never be fixed, right?

>>56312827
Z3 all the way
Still the best battery life

just upgraded from and S4 to and S7 today. Why the fuck isn't there a settings widget for the flashlight and battery app anymore? Fucking Marshmallow

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>>56312752
>Asus Zenfone Max
vs
>Xiaomi Redmi Note 3
vs
>Sony Xperia Z3 Compact
vs
>???

I also want a good aliexpress vendor (if that site is good, I haven't used it before)

Sailfish/Marlin will be available from Google's store or HTC cucks?

repost from last thread

hows cyanogenmod on the htc m7? my dads phones choking up with all the crapware hes being fed, so im considering installing cyanogenmod on it for him

>>56313054
Google's store. I wouldn't get excited though. All indicators point to it being disappointing.

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>>56312997
the one that runs GNU

How much should the Nexus 5x be expected to drop once the new nexus's drop

The recommended chinkphones list in the wiki need to be updated

>>56313103
disappointing in what way

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Need new Android because HTC 626 constantly out of storage.

On T-Mobile USA, so LTE needed.

-$200ish
-IR blaster
-Good speakers
- MicroSD
- At least 16gb of interal storage.

Anything that isn't shit?

>>56312752
Is it still worth getting the Nexus 6p? I have a 5x right now and I can't stand it. I can get the 6p for 350- should I go for it or should I wait for the new nexuses?

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>/spg/

>ctrl + f iphone 0 results

..

What's the best cell phone to blast Juan Gabriel's classic hits?

>>56313466
Step back from last year in a few regards.

No front facing speakers
Thinner than the 6p which means it'll probably have a smaller battery
Looks dumb
The 821 won't be much faster than the 820 is at all
4GB of ram
etc

>>56313970

but last year has 2gb of ram

>>56313871
There isn't really much to discuss. Iphones have little variation, and little you can mess with. SPG is basically "what should I buy?" but if you want an iPhone you don't need to ask that question.

>>56313844
Honor 5x
MotoG4
Used Note4

Not sure about IR but those are some of the few solid choices under 200

>>56313871
iPhones are for normies and performance junkies. neither of which are on /g/

>>56314052
Note4

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So is a Z3 compact a good phone in terms of processing power and reliability? I've been using a Safelink drug dealer phone for the past 4+ years so I think I need to finally get a smartphone.

>>56314065
Performance junkies aren't on /g/?

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The Note 7 is god tier. I just got one today and it is amazing.

If you can buy it on contract get it. If not wait for the price to comes down, unless you were going to buy the galaxy gear fit 2 anyway.

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>>56313871

>drakeposter
>thinks iPhones matter

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>>56312752
Lets settle this, is Redmi note 3 pro a meme, yes or not?

What's a better option for 200?

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>>56314226

>$1350.00AUD

>>56314185
Not really. Take a look around. /g/ settles for less than top tier performance for other benefits they find more valuable, like freedom, privacy, options, customization, etc.

>>56314243
Not a meme if you live outside of the US and get full 4G on it

>>56314226
No it's not. Those numbers don't translate to real world performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-61FFoJFy0

>>56314184
It has no viable competitor

>>56314308
Meme test
jPhones would only display the app and won't actually respond to touches at first

>>56314333
but that's not true, he interacts with the app before he hits the home button. Also even if it is true, doesn't change the fact that the note 7 didn't keep a single fucking app in cache. It's pathetic

>>56314226

Samsungs actually perform like shit in the long run.

>>56314383
>long run.
If by long run you mean out of the box then sure

>>56314333

>not even watching the video

>>56314403

I don't really know what I meant by that.

They're just shit.

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>>56314308
not a programmer. is this why android gets btfo'd every year?

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Is there a smartphone that doesn't look like a black slab of nothing? For example something like pic related, but new?

>>56314498
no. Minimalism/clean design is in now. no more cluttered shit like that

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>>56314498
Of course there are, they just aren't popular

>>56314498
>Sony Clie
Makes me hard, I lusted for one of these so bad back in the day.

On ATT
Best phone for under 600? And no iPhone plz

Is a Nexus 5 still a viable option? Or should I wait for the new Nexus and see how the 5x price drops? What about custom roms and neato things that are for nexus 5 but not for 5x?

>>56314271
Grey import fa

I guess this is the best place to ask. What's /spg/'s preferred app to hide your power level (vault app)

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>>56314517
That's overpriced for the hardware

>>56314517
CRAAAAWWWLING IIIIN MYYY SKYYYN!!

>>56314607

cbf - samsung isn't worth it

>>56314308
Seriously
Why the fuck would anyone buy anything other than iPhones?
Are stupid people really this many on the planet?

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>>56314695

>>56314695
Differing values. If you're a performance junkie there's no reason to buy anything but an iPhone. But if you want muh features then buy Android.

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Bought a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro 2GB 16GB version for $145 shipped.

Not sure if smart purchase or not. It's my first smartphone.

>>56314479
Java isn't interpreted and it pretty much is compiled on the phones now.

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I have two smartphones right now;
>iPhone 6 Plus
>LG Risio
LG is fucking slow to update or they don't really update your shit at all.

I'm gonna use the iPhone until it no longer receives iOS updates, which might take some time.

But if I go Android again, which OEM actually supports their phones for a couple of years with updates? I know Nexus goes for at least two years, but I have no desire to root and flash ROMs, but I also have zero interest in buying a new phone just because such and such OEM stops giving me updates.

I just want my phone to be there to make calls, text, browse the net, and use a few dating apps. That's all I really care about, that and price. The fact that the iPhone SE is 400 bucks is still crazy but I doubt that Apple will go much cheaper than that unless they want to get more people onto their services.

>>56314695
>>56314725

performance means nothing when you're using garbage iOS

I bought the Axon 7. How cool am I from a 1-10?

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Here's what matters to me. I guess price isn't too much a factor, but anyway...

- Dual front speakers
- micro SD
- good battery
- quick charge
- Stock, ROM, or root
- 5.2" max

Does anything like this exist? I'm not optimistic :(

>>56314744
Some people would still be using their Note 2 for another 3 more years after this, flashing isn't that hard

>>56314744
There's is no equivalent android device. Except if you use the power of free(asinlibre)dom and flash a Rom.

>>56314759
name five things wrong with iOS.

GO

>>56314762
11

>>56314768
Z3 Compact motherfucker

>>56314744
You seem to be looking at two different things.

If you just want your phone to be available to do stuff, you don't need update support for the OS, do you?

As for support after 2 years, if Google itself doesn't go longer than that I doubt anyone else would. The 6S should be supported for at least 3 years though, my 5S is from 2013 and is getting iOS 10.

>>56314775
Lag hidden behind slow animations
Can't download file over 100mb on mobile data
Have to jailbreak to gain basic functionality
Can't easily play webm or post png files, top kekkles
Can't downgrade if applel decides you need to buy a new jPhone

>>56314775

no customization and restrictions are reason enough

I have an android phone and iPad

I noticed games constantly crash on the iPad and never on my android.

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I was gonna make a seperate thread about this but whatever.

Recently traded in my GS4 for a Nexus 5X. I love it, but 16gb turned out to be too small for me (since only 10 is available initially, and my provider doesn't offer 32gb versions because the phone is so unpopular), so I'm going to switch to the Moto G4.

What am I in for?

My biggest concerns are software and build quality. I love that Moto is one of the only brands that doesn't clutter up the OS with bullshit (because I'm love with stock Android), but the camera app looks a bit iffy and the scale of the interface (like the nav bar) looks a bit bigger than I expected? And since the back is removable, should I expect creaking and bad quality? This 5X is solid as a rock and it's gonna be tough to part with it but I need that extra storage.

>>56314780

I know it's a great phone.... But that's from 2013

Is the phone market seriously stagnating that hard?????

>>56314841
Are you seriously that retarded if you think a 2 year old flagship is somehow outdated?

>>56314770
See, if it was a laptop or desktop, I would go through all that shit. But things like smartphones are so basic, even Android ones that I feel like I shouldn't have to mess around with it.

>>56314772
Shame.

>>56314797
I want updates due to security. I know there is no such thing as a device that is 100% secure from malware or exploits (Just look at the funny cat and mouse game between Apple and jailbreakers) but it helps that if something major happens, I can at least get an update to patch it (hopefully).

iOS and Android, to be honest are so fucking similar that fighting over it is pretty silly. The biggest issue I have with a lot of the Android phones are the updates from OEMs.

>>56314768
Wait for Sony's next event in September

I just rooted my phone for the first time in 4 years. What should I do? What's that tethering app called?

>>56314802
>Lag hidden behind slow animations
you don't know what lag is. lag is stuttering/dropping frames. This never happens on iOS. Everything is silky smooth 60fps
>Can't download file over 100mb on mobile data
safeguard to prevent tech illiterates from blowing up their phone bills. may not be useful for you but please try to think outside of your bubble.
>Have to jailbreak to gain basic functionality
such as?
Can't easily play webm or post png files, top kekkles
changed in iOS 10
>Can't downgrade if applel decides you need to buy a new jPhone
doesn't matter for normies. if you're aware of this however don't upgrade.
>>56314833
>no customization and restrictions are reason enough
so making your homescreen cute is more important than performance? okay.
>I noticed games constantly crash on the iPad and never on my android.
Unfortunately, x app has stopped working.

okay

>>56314903
>You can play webm in iOS 10

Colored me shocked. Do you have an article about this?

>>56314903
And this is why jPhones are for street shitting third worlders that can't afford unlimited LTE.

>>56314841
Z5 Compact then, dude.

>>56314851
Cmon now, the market is designed to get people to think exactly that.

>>56314851

>2016
>2013
>Two years old

And I'm retarded?

>>56314941
What the fuck do you do that requires more than 2 GB a month? Serious question.

>>56314837
For the camera app you just activate expert mode (or however its called)
And I dunno what you mean for the interface being bigger, its normal for 5.5 inchers
Unless you start taking off/on the back every 20 seconds like an autist, its pretty solid

>>56314965
Z3 Compact came out in 2014, shitstain
Kill yourself

>>56314941
http://www.businessinsider.com/android-iphone-market-share-by-price-2014-8

http://www.cultofmac.com/398525/is-there-a-class-divide-between-iphone-and-android/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/19/its_true_android_is_the_poor_mans_phone/

:^)

Is the nexus 9 worth buying? Currently my parents have a nexus 10 but it's becoming very slow and kind of annoying to use.
I'm going to root and flash some custom roms on it to see if that speeds it up at all, but if that doesn't work then I want to know what alternatives I have.

I had a pretty good experience with the nexus so I want to stay with the line, but I've heard conflicting opinions about the 9.

>>56314973
What the fuck do you do that doesn't require more than 2 gb a month?

>>56314993
>amerisharts
lol, even the poorest of Europeans can afford unlimited LTE.

>>56314903
android needing bs tricks to dither and smooth out app animations is such crap.

Wait for the price drop. If you're like me and dont need top end specs, a price drop of the 5x or 6p will be perfect

>>56314973
Different guy here, but I live in a city so I'm out and about frequently, and I also don't have Wi-Fi at work. I have 5GB monthly and I use it.

>>56315008
Tab S2
Nvidia Shield
Nexus is meme

>>56315009
Since you won't answer, I will.

I just check email, post on a few chans, and read some tech/science articles. Some times I'll play a youtube video if I need to get a visual example of a recipe or diy project.

>>56314903
>so making your homescreen cute is more important than performance

nice deflection

Is it worth it to wait for LG V20 or should I just go for the Note 7? Money is not an issue, but Samsung bloatware is.

>>56314775

Ugly
Basic
Unstable
Restricted
Pointless Updates

>>56315147
Don't go for either of those. Wait for the new nexus devices.

>>56315147
Buy both and use whichever you feel like on that day

Is it still worth getting the Nexus 6p? I have a 5x right now and I can't stand it. I can get the 6p for 350- should I go for it or should I wait for the new nexuses?

>>56315171
>iOS is unstable

Top kek.

>Ugly
I'll give you that, but all the cool kids are into flat icons. I'll deal.

>Restricted
Also hard to steal because of it.

>>56314775

name five things wrong with Android.

GO

>>56315203
not worth upgrading from a 5x. It probably won't even be worth an upgrade to this year's nexus devices with a device that recent.
What don't you like about it? From what I understand the 5X is very similar to my moto x pure, and I still love mine

>>56315211
>Top kek

I have shit crash all the time on iOS compared to Android. Just from personal experience.

>>56315147
Just get the Note 7
The stylus has no viable competitor in the current weed lmao year

>>56315216
-slow
-laggy
-crappy

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>>56314986
What I mean like, the interface itself seems to be scaled up slightly, if that makes any sense. Look at these screenshots I just took from the 5X, and compare stuff like the status bar icons, the Google bar, and the dropdown icons on the Moto. The interface just feels like it's scaled up or something.

Also, does Moto use their own gallery app, or is Google Photos used as stock? Because I'd much prefer the latter, just give me the least amount of bloat possible. I guess a much easier way to ask this question would be "what apps have Moto implemented that have stock Google counterparts, like messaging or camera?"

>>56315230
That's so weird, Android has always crashed more for me. iOS on both the iPhone and iPad is pretty solid for me.

But then again, so was Windows phone...

>>56315171
>Ugly
iOS's ui/ux is far more attractive than Android's. Animations are all silky smooth with no dropped frames. It's intuitive and easy to use. Clean and minimal without being empty and wasteful. Android still hasn't fixed the back button. There is no consistent UI, google tries to push wasted white space, excuse me, I mean material, but most app devs don't care.
>Unstable
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA iOS is far more stable than Android. iOS apps don't randomly crash
>Pointless Updates
Android users don't even know what security updates are lol that's why you think they're pointless

>>56315241


Not of these apply in 2016.

>>56315251

I'm thinking it might be the apps themselves.

>>56315255
>iOS's ui/ux is far more attractive than Android's

Wrong.

>iOS apps don't randomly crash

Wrong.

>Android users don't even know what security updates are lol

babby needs security updates lmao

>>56315260
Maybe, I tend to stick with stock apps unless we are talking about Windows or Android. And iOS stock apps are usually pretty good.

But it's all about the relevant price drop. The 6p will go about $100 or so dollars while the nexus will be probably overpriced at 500.

>>56314736
Why not the 32gb version?

>>56315260
>I'm thinking it might be the apps themselves

Most likely.

I play Brave Exvius on my HTC10 and iPad Mini, and it constantly crashes on iOS, but I think that's the fault of the devs, and not necessarily iOS.

>>56315216
Can't keep apps in memory.
Laggy animations.
Inconsistent UI/UX.
Slower than iPhones.
Designed for poor people.
Back button is broken.
White space everywhere.
Shitty broken apps in the app store.
App developers don't care about it so you always get the inferior version compared to iOS

>>56315274
typical lagdroid iq argument
etc

>>56315260
It does with Samsung phones.

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>>56314775
>>56315216

Shut the fuck up.

>>56315274
>babby needs security updates
Seeing as you have a device that has your location, the sites you go onto, passwords, pictures, and for some phones, your fingerprint, I'd say security updates are pretty important.

>>56315294
See, last game I ever played on mobile was Shantae: Risky's Revenge and I'm so fucking glad I got that on Steam instead.

So, I wouldn't know shit about that. Carry on, bro.

>>56315297

Endless bait from 2012.

>>56315304

So it's not Android itself, but Touchjizz.

Cool story.

>>56315290
Don't think I'll need it.

>>56314903
>such as?

Actually owning your phone.

>>56315349
>actually owning your phone

Please explain. No matter what OS you run, if you got your standard cell phone, you don't really own it at all.

>>56315367

i wouldn't expect an iFag to understand.

>>56315247
I hadnt noticed the dropdown icons, they're bigger yeah, everything else is rather normal-sized.
Gallery, messaging, phone and calendar are stock, hell, camera seems to be stock with some plugin-like functionality by moto

>>56315333
pretty sure the htc 10, note 7, 6p, and g5 are all less than one year old.

>>56313871
fucking drakeposters. You got what you wanted.

>>56315349

that's what jailbreaking is for

>>56315390

we're talking iOS not actual phone models

modern android > iOS

>>56315379
>calling people an iFag because someone disagrees with you

Grow up. I'm not even the other guy. What I am saying is that consider the amount of closed source hardware that is in even your Android phones. If you are going to make the argument about owning your phone, then you better have a fully open source smartphone where people can properly check even the hardware.

But yea, I wouldn't expect a fanboy of either brand to understand that.

>>56315385
So does that mean that Google photos is connected to the stock camera app? Like when you take a picture, it'll open right up to Goog?

Also if I were so inclined and wanted Google camera that bad, would there be any way for the lock screen slide-up shortcut to be changed to Google's? Like a "What app would you like to use?" dialogue when you have more than 1 camera installed? Or am I screwed on that part?

>>56315433
Those are 2015/2016 flag ship Android phones and they all display the issues mentioned in >>56315297. so no, not bait from 2012, but instead, facts from the last year.

>>56315448

except all those "facts" are wrong

When will Sammy add Force Touch?

>>56315297
won't even address most of this shit but Memory is only a Samsung issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ha-JaFO3Eg

>>56315297
>Can't keep apps in memory

Already wrong.

Not gonna bother reading the rest.

>>56315461
feel free to prove me wrong with evidence lagdroid kiddo

>>56315297
>Designed for poor people

kek

anyone taking this post seriously is an idiot

>>56315147
>thinks Samsung bloatware is an issue
>Has the note 7 as an option

Just get a iPhone.

can you drag/drop music on iphones yet

i fucking hate itoons

why do people want the new nexus when it's going to have

>shit camera
>no sd slot
>mediocre battery life
>massive bezels

>>56315518
Actually, certain apps on iOS do allow dragging and dropping media over wi-fi. I use that all the time so I can read my h-manga on my iPad all the time.

>>56315534

which app do you use?

>>56315546
For video, VLC for iOS allows for that.

For manga, Chunky Comic reader, I think you have to buy the full version, but the dev is pretty cool, so I had no issue giving him a little cash.

>>56315226
Performance issues, I get 2 hours SOT max, I want a larger screen...obviously the screen thing is my own fault but the performance and battery life are really disappointing.

>>56315526
>shit camera
6p has a top 5 camera so there's nor eason to believe this year will take a step back
>no sd slot
most people don't care about that
>mediocre battery life
6p had excellent battery life
>massive bezels
the only bezel issue is the chin

>>56315567
>most people don't care about that

It's my biggest issue with Nexus phones, because I love the freedom of their phones, but this is a huge restriction in my opinion.

>>56315526
>shit camera
[citation needed]
>no sd card slot
I will never need more than 32gb of storage so idgaf
>mediocre battery life
[citation needed]
>massive bezels
in one leak. even then it's just cosmetic

Also, probably because it's the only phone that comes with decent software (bar moto *) and that gets fast updates

>>56315447
>So does that mean that Google photos is connected to the stock camera app?
I think? 1st thing i did was install qickpic and link it to the camera, so that is my option when i swipe left.

Havent toyed a lot with the lockscreen, maybe if you install another camera app it will give you the option to switch or something, no idea.

>>56315463
>samsung
lel

nougat is a giant failure and rapes batteries

how shocking coming from google

worse than lollipop

Iphones are not for ppl who want the most out of there phone can we just move on

>>56315692
>iphones are for people who prioritize functionality and performance over memes like freedom and customization
ftfy

>>56315724
>Anything I don't have is a meme
k

>>56315692
>>56315724
see
>>56315310

>>56315746
i call them memes because as far as freedom go, no matter what smartphone you buy, you don't get it. customization doesn't matter. no rich white person has time to "customize" their smartphone. They're busy having a life, making money, doing important stuff, and in leisure time, there's a million things they reather do than "customize" their phone lol

>>56315780
Okay normie

>>56315780

S7 Edge costs more than an iPhone doesn't it?

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>>56315820
>>56315832
do these people look like they have the time or frankly even the desire to move around icons on their cell phones? lmao keep being poor

>>56315820
>calling people normies over choice in phone

>>56315780
Pretty much. Despite Android being top dog in terms of market share, most people at most just change their wallpaper. So much for customization.

Now of course, there is the counter argument that you only have to spend like what, 15-45 min to make your phone the way you want it once then you don't have to worry about it, but when most people people buy a smartphone they aren't going to think about that. Not even poor people waste their time ricing their phones.

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>>56315780
>>56315917

I don't even know why people are taking your bair.

>>56315936
>Despite Android being top dog in terms of market share
because of poor markets like India

iPhones and androids are for two different ppl simple as that. One is not better than the other but better to the users needs. Also you can afford either if your poor so that argument is mute

Anyone got a good alternative to Google Keep?

>>56315917
Looks like the type who buys an iPhone after their year-old Samshit phone gets crippled by crapware updates, and spent entirely too much on both phones

>>56316017
Well, there is that, Android phones without a doubt are bigger because of the fact that cheaper phones reduce the barrier of price for those who would otherwise just go without.

But to imply that it's the only reason to want to go Android is wrong though. I will give you that price is one of the biggest reasons people choose it.

What's the longest battery life smartphone that isn't chinkshit?

had a htc m8 for 2 years now, should i get the m9?

Recommend me some cool apps.

>>56316305

Mr. Phone

>>56316302
no it's the same as the m8 go 10 or a9 for differences

going to the us for shopping is there any place in orlando or miami that allows you to buy the latest phones directly and at a decent price??
only gonna be there for 10 days and i've heard that the one plus 3 can take longer to arrive as an example

Fuck those prices for the nexus. I was really wanting the marlin too.

Any reason NOT to get the axon 7, other than it being Chinese? Looks fantastic. Motoz force is expensive as fuck too wtf.

>>56316444
>tfw $600+ and i'm poor as a door

>>56316522
Aren't all phones Chinese?

>>56316522
if you are into gaming check for the thottling in the axon 7 i still cant decide if one plus 3 is the way to go

Does anyone have any success with LTE with Xiaomi phones in the US? I'm considering upgrading to a Redmi Note 3 Pro from a 5X.

>>56316566
Nexus ain't. What so you mean?

>>56316601
Nope, not a le gaymer. What about the nexus 6p. I'm actually on a one plus one. Ran into a few bugs early on, but Dont remember having issues with my nexus 4

>>56316684
should work with tmobile

Cyanogen mod compatibility, no metal case, Low SAR, lowish price

Wileyfox Swift looks pretty neat

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>tfw stuck with a Droid Mini

>>56312752
>HTC Nexus Marlin And Sailfish See Pricing Details Leak With $499 & $599 As Starting Point
>http://wccftech.com/htc-nexus-sailfish-marlin-price-leak-rumors-mid-range/


REEEEEEE

>>56315526
In hopes for getting a decent stock android phone with guaranteed updates (and a good dev community).

But it seems like they will cost a fortune this time around.

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Should I trade in my old iPad/iPhone 5S for a Samsung S7 so I can get one for 0$ on a 2 yr plan? Is 5.1" comfy when I just want to browse in bed/at a restaurant, or should I look for something with a larger screen?

>>56317568
If you don't think you'll need the old phone, just do it.

I'm trading my 5S for free-after contact phone myself. If you're stuck on a contract anyway might as well get a phone out of it

>>56313871
What is there to discuss about iPhones that hasn't hit mainstream media and requires literally no searching to find?

>>56314498
Anything from Kyocera, all their phones are over designed and honestly look like shit.

Alternatively buy an HTC phone and have a silver slab of aluminum nothingness.

>>56314802
All of those things you pointed out only really affect people who are autistically obsessed with phones.

>>56317568
Just found out I get 100$ discount for new being new Bell user, which means I could get a S7 Edge (5.5") for 50$ if I stacked the trade-in on top of that.

I might be able to worm my way into the back-to-school deal which give me +2 gigs for 5$. How much 480p anime could I watch with 7 gigs? What about 12 gigs?

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What the f*ck is wrong with cyanogenmod dans my battery ?
yesterday evening I had 40 % dans this morning i was out of battery ??

not sure if this is the right thread, but are there any good flip phones nowadays?

So if the new nexus phones turn out to be shit, are there any decent phones left in the <=5" range with at least rom support so I won't be stuck with a shitty old version of android all the time?

Is the Battery Memory meme real?

I have an LG G3 that's not even a year old and the battery was GOAT at first and now its complete garbage. It dies within half a day now. Should I replace the battery on it or just get a new phone?

>>56318279
You have more apps now.

>>56318308
The only apps I have on my phone are normiebook, snapchat and spotify.

>>56312752
Used note 4 for 250€ ye or meh?

>>56318308
You're a fucking retard, please get out of /g/.

>Son, THE GAMES ARE SLOWING DA COMPUTEEER

Ok, so while I was looking for my TV remote, I found an iPhone 4 in my couch. I've asked all my roommates, and people who have been to my house recently, and no one knows who it belongs to, nor has anyone claimed to have lost a phone.

It wouldnt charge initially, so I can't remember how, but I either turned it off completely or left it in recovery mode so it could actually charge.

It has no simcard, but is passcoded. I put in my simcard to get a 4G connection, and got a Facebook notification from someone I knew, which lead me to believe that someone else I knew had indeed lost this phone - but they continue to deny this. So I suppose this leaves it in my hands to reset. To be honest I don't even particularly want this phone, but I need a substitute while I wait for a new battery for my actual mobile to arrive.

The phone however won't actually connect to my computer or my laptop, and I've tried 3 different cables. I assume this is because of the passcode. Recovery mode doesn't change anything either. Have I just got a brick, then?

>>56315606
Definitely agree. The one thing that keeps me away from Nexus phones is the lack of SD card. Currently using a faulty OnePlus One and can't wait for my Redmi Note 3 to arrive.

>>56318346
>apps don't use background data
try installing normiebook and watch your battery fade, background process use battery you literal retard.
>>56318318
Tried using greenify or some shit?

>>56317267
Fuck dude, I'm so sorry.

I tried iPhone 6s for the first time. Sure it was pretty fast and consistent, but the whole user experience felt meh. I got bored after few minutes using it. Apple really need to revamp their UI, because it doesn't feel special anymore.

>>56312997
>Zenfone
dogshit, avoid at all costs
>Z3c
Great phone, a little outdated though, screen is also small
>RN3P
Probably the best choice, the difference in screen size is big though

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>>56314498

CAT S60 but it's expensive

>>56315338
Not op but if you're planning to stay on MIUI you should've bought the 3GB variant since MIUI keeps a shit ton of ram to itself on boot. 2gb phones on MIUI perform like 1gb phones on stock

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New Nexus 6P here.
Is there something wrong with my battery? shouldn't the remaining time be a lot more than this?
My screen brightness is on half and adaptive brightness is enabled.
Nothing is running in the background.
All apps are battery optimized.

>austrian friend sent me his old samsung galaxy s3
>it's sim-locked
>none of the guides to unlock it seem to work (atleast not the ones i've found)
>don't want to have to pay to get it unlocked
help?
it's running 4.3

Can anyone tell me what the fuck is Motorola TurboPower™ thing? Can I use any QuickCharger charger or is there some weird ass charger that I must specifically use for this thing? Got Moto G4, and the charger in the box is the regular one.

What can I can get on 5 inch phones up to 250€? Mainly looking for fairly decent processing power and rom support.
Also since xiaomi decided to go locked bootloader, fuck them.

>>56319268
s4

>>56318360
Give it back jamal

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My Xperia Z3 broke after two years, and I'm looking to get another phone.

Is the iPhone 5S still worth getting if I want something that just werks?

>>56319268
>xiaomi
>locked bootloader
Can't you just send an unlock request? Almost all manufacturers have this.

>>56319268
>xiaomi decided to go locked bootloader
You have two options: request an official unlock by Xiaomi, or diy with the unofficial method.

>>56318360
Resetting won't remove the passcode.

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>>56319548

Not feeling like waiting a shitton of time just to custom rom it and get rid of the system integrated ads.

Anyway, caved in and bought a bq x5 plus. Own an e4.5 right now and I'm very happy with it. In fact I'm only upgrading because my father's phone kicked it, and he gets this one while I upgrade to a 5 inch one. Also cyanogen out of the box should be pretty comfy. Only thing that bothers me is

>On AND off screen buttons

For what purpose? Oh well, on screen ones should be easy to get rid of, in theory

>mfw the spaniards will get it right once again

WHERE can I buy an axon 7 that ships to Netherlands?

Desirably a site that has good history regarding warranty

>>56319763
>shitton of time
>2 weeks
yeah nah.
>>56319813
Zelfde hier vriend. Uitverkocht op elke Europese Amazon en andere webshops. Ga denk ik zelf een Mi 5 kopen.

why is the redmi note 3 pro the "go to" chink phone here? What about the redmi note 4, isnt that an upgrade?

>>56319849
Redmi note 4 only released in china like last week. No one in the west has got it yet.

>>56319845

Sorry m8, owned an lg eve a few years back and I've already had my share of unlocking and flashing woes. I have better things to waste my time on than making a phone work.

Oneplus 3 or wait for new Nexuses which will probably be overpriced brick sized pieces of shit because of HTC incompetence?

>>56319849
>redmi note 4
>MTK
Wait for the RN4P.

>>56319917
will the pro version have a snapdragon?

New Nexus Sailfish renders lads
It looks like dogshit.

http://www.androidpure.com/htc-sailfish-nexus-renders-give-us-the-best-look-of-the-device-yet/

>>56319938
Definitely not worth the $500 pricetag they leaked.

>>56319936
Most likely, but there is no official statement or leak, yet.

>new sony compact shipping with fhd screen on a 4.6" screen

why

>>56319991
Because people complained about 720p on the Z5C. I watched a video review today where they bitched about it.

>>56320005
that's bullshit man, a 720p screen on that size is enough. Are they always watching videos with a magnifying glass? Goddamnit, this will only hit the battery.

>>56320021
Can't you adjust the resolution on Nougat?

>>56319526
I have a 5s
Works like a charm

>>56320025
you can? does this help the battery? If so then it's okay I guess.

>>56320034
You can't

>>56312909
What z5?

>http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-Marlin-and-Nexus-Sailfish-prices-reportedly-leaked_id84627

>499$
>599$

For 32Gb version

Kek'd
Only fanboytards will buy it, and it's gonna be even more expensive in Europe.

>Every problem with my phone is related to the software

Fucking chinese.

REDMI 4 WHEN

Need a quick answer please, will the Moto X Force be Daydream compatible?

>>56319267
bumpo

Should I buy the Oneplus three?
I now have a BB Z10 of which the microphone has died after I jumped with it in the pool.

>>56319267
You dont need a special charger, its build in the phone and will let it charge faster

>>56320325
Oh no
That can't be its design, can it?

>>56320434
Somehow it doesn't feel that way at all...

>>56320442
It is, and it is overpriced on top of it.

>HTC

I've grown bored of Android and Windows Phone (current daily driver). iOS is the only one I haven't touched yet, and the performance benefits are undeniable. BUT, I absolutely must have access to Google apps, particularly Drive and Play Music, and I need a good file explorer app on iPhone that will keep me as organized as I am everywhere else. I'm thinking iPhone SE.

Convince me to switch back to Android or sell me on pulling the trigger on an iPhone.

>>56320335
What phone senpai? Install CM.

a6

Honor 8 or Axon 7?

>>56314592
Just get the new Nexus phones, don't buy a phone from three years ago

>>56320523
>Needing a file browser on a phone
What? But if you need a browser that bad, there are flash drives for the iPhone with apps that allow you to transfer pictures from it and apps to comb through all that data. Just keep in mind that each app is sandboxed and by default one app can't access the files of another app.

And of course you'll get your Google apps, this isn't WP after all.

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Hello gents

Anyone here manage to change the boot animation on their HTC one ? Using an M8, deleted and replaced the boot animation files but it still boots with the " HTC powered by android" screen

Where the fuck is this thing

>>56319734
>>56319482

nevermind, turns out it was roommates, bought it for spare parts, left it in the couch and forgot about it

He put in his passcode on a whim and it unlocked immediately

What's the best android on the market right now?

Nexus 6

Yay or nay?

>>56319938
WHat's wrong with it

>>56320450
>>56320442
>>56320325

>vomiting in my mouth

how can it be so ugly?

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>>56320325
kek

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Are Huawei's good?

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>>56321028
damn, i remember buying this android phone with huawei brand and nobody even knew what huawei is. i had bought it since it was a good price/perfmance device and got tired of telling people it was huawei. i'd just say it was google. the phone was good, i have no idea about their new devices but people use them. huawei p9 seems nice.

>>56321028
notebookcheck really likes the P9

>>56321025
>>56320978
You guys are reacting just like you did last year about the 6p. Then it turned out to be gorgeous.

>>56321250
But it seems like a lot of people hate the 6P too

>>56314243
It isn't a meme, I own one and for the price it is fucking awesome. The battery life, MIUI and the price are my favorite things about it.

You just get this amazing feeling when you realized that you have an awesome phone and you didn't get jewed by the flagships!

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>>56321250
>implying any of the 2015 Nexus can be described as "beautiful"
>im-fucking-plying

The Nexus 6 was fucking gorgeous and while it had its fair share of problems in its build-quality, as well as being fucking overpriced for what it was (although 3 GB of RAM back in 2014 was virtually unheard off), it was actually a very beautiful device and extremely pleasing in aesthetical terms.

Do decent 1440p chink phones with SD slots exist? It only seems big brand flagships go for that kind of resolution currently.

Does anyone have a guide on disassembling and reassembling android phones?

>http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-specs-revealed-in-benchmark-Snapdragon-820-CPU-4GB-RAM_id84618

>According to the list of specs, the alleged Xperia X Compact should be powered by a 2.1GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor and 4GB of RAM. There will be 64GB of storage inside, but there's no mention of microSD card slot. Also, the Xperia X Compact will sport a 4.6-inch display that supports full HD (1080p) resolution.

>>56321486
>not serching in jewtube

>>56321443
chicks can't even handle full hd mate.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/oneplus-3-screen-ram-update/

>>56321501
Fine, I'll check there.

>>56321418
I don't think it looks beautiful but honestly I don't like it when phones look super good. I loved the original moto G and I love the simplicity of the xiaomi phones.

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>>56321585
>Xiaomi

Enjoy your flimsy built Chinkphone

>>56321028
At first i honestly thought these were some cheap Chinese kock-off phones but no, my friend bought a P8 lite or something and he still uses it with little to no problems in it. He say's it's very durable.
As >>56321106 said about P9, I'm very intrested in it too.

>>56314768
some htc phones could be alright for you

Are there phones similar to the Xiaomi RN3P in specs and price, but not humongous?

>>56314768
Axon 7 is a little bit bigger but damn, it has great specs soundwise.

>>56321630
Seems pretty durable to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s6fDsvgmQc

The phone also performs as good as flagships when it is durability tested too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7H9OmV0OPI

I have a case and a tempered glass screen protector on mine and I am pretty confident that it will survive drops.

So WTF is happening with the Lumia range? Has Microsoft given up on phones completely?

>>56321692
Redmi 3?

>>56321692
Note 3 or mi4c

>>56314973
are you like old or somethin ?
I use over 10 / month

>>56321725
>first video
> a wild POO IN THE LOO appears out of fucking nowhere

Kek, and shit like this is why Xiaomi will never be taken seriously. They'd rather sell their chinkshit to HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEs and Poos than to the European/American market because they would be fucked over by dem patent infringement lawsuits as well. In the meantime, you buy phones which need to configured by someone with the knowledge of how to install custom ROM and don't even have something as basic as LTE coverage because muuuh Chink frequencies.

I need a new inexpensive phone.
Between 200 - 300 €
Available either on Amazon.co .uk or Amazon.de

What is currently recommended at that price range? I've been looking at Moto G4

>>56321730
microsoft is kill.
nokia will come back with android phones.

>have brand new (2 months old) HUAWEI G610
>works great
>one day it wont turn on
>I charge it as usual
>it has a red led
>googling turns out that is the battery
>I cant open it because...I dont know,
>go to a phone center
>they redirect me to the assistance center
>the assistance center will then send it to another city on monday for repair

>the fucking center could have just opened the goddamn phone and replaced the battery instead they wasted my, their and someone's else time while CO2 was being wasted on this burocratic ineptitude.

I hate this country.

>>56321785

SHART IN MART

>>56321886
Go to bed Hugo, it is already past your bedtime.

>>56321785

I don't care if people who don't know how to flash a custom rom don't buy it or if it isn't sold in America. It is sold in China and India which are more than populated enough to sustain sales figures.

For most people the global stable rom which is what is sold in India is fine.

>LTE coverage

Lol, I'm in Australia and I get 4G perfectly fine. Sorry that you have to get jewed by the flagships and pay more money because you live in a country with shitty bands.

Sorry that you have to use the imperial system instead of metric.

Sorry that you have to put the month first when you write the date of something.

I'm sorry that you are American but it isn't the fault of Xiaomi.

>>56321967
Trust the 'serious' people who do false advertising and use copyrighted images without the holder's consent. Trust that the phone's cloud crap isn't sending all the shit to the Ministry of Information of the People's Republic of China which clearly has been proven.

>>56318924
Posting off of one now. I'm pleased so far. It comes without any bloatware as well so that's an added benefit.

>>56321999
>Trust the 'serious' people who do false advertising and use copyrighted images without the holder's consent.

None of this concerns me. Why should I care?

>Trust that the phone's cloud crap isn't sending all the shit to the Ministry of Information of the People's Republic of China which clearly has been proven.

Source?

I removed Mi Cloud and all that stuff when I rooted the phone.

>>56319045
That's 810 for you.

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>>56321630
>>56321785
>>56321999
>0.1 Rupee have been deposited to your Apple™ Pro™ and Samsung™ Premium™ accounts, Mr. Pajeet Shekelsteineesh.

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aww yiss

Nexus 6p or OnePlus 3?
Need a replacement for my Nexus 4.

>Marlin 5.5" screen 32 GB storage $599
>Sailfish 5.0" screen 32 GB storage $499

I have a One Plus One and I want to upgrade, I'm looking at the One Plus Three or the HTC 10 atm

Does anyone have any recommendations or advice, I'm looking for decent battery, sound and camera in a phone which can support all bands on 3(UK) network if that helps

>>56321418
I love my Nexus 6 but so far I'm unhappy with the build quality

I had mine for 2 fucking weeks because my screen was covered in dead pixels and I had to send it away for another 2 weeks to get fixed

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>>56322440
EU rom

>>56322646
>>56322440
>chinese super spyware

>>56318925
What other alternatives to MIUI are there?

What is the price of Oneplus 3 in China? Like if I am going there to buy it? How do I check the price? Aliexpress and other sites only show me the international price. wtf

What are the benefits of using Xiaomi.eu over the MIUI global rom?

>>56313871

why are you looking for iphones in the first place? Damn casual

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this is pretty ugly

i have an lg g4 that's has a google email lock to it. would rooting it bypass this?

>>56322664
>i prefer NSA botnet to chink botnet

>>56314736
>>56315338
If your'e a casual user 2gb will be enough. just make sure your'e running the correct non chinked rom when you get it.

>>56314768
HTC 10 is the closest to what you ask.

>>56316302
No, M9 is horrible POS.

>>56316684
Might get 4G in the city with t-mobile, rural probably won't.

>>56318005
Only Samsung W2016 and they're expensive af.

>>56320885
No.

>>56321443
Axon 7 has both.

>>56321785
You are fucking retarded, please hang yourself.

>>56321797
Moto G4 Plus or Zuk Z2.

>>56322590
HTC 10>OP3.

>>56322680
CM13/RR/Mokee.

>>56322696
Debloated rom without the chink apps and supposedly better ram management, but you miss on the official updates.

>>56322794
I liked the drop screen of MiUi 7 better too. now it looks like touchwizz.

>>56322892
>>56322892
You don't miss on the official updates, the eu rom is based on the chinese rom so you get the updates when the chinese rom does.

>>56322892
goddamn all i wanted was an updated version of the razr

>>56313970
>speculating
>when confirmed specs have already been released

fucking kill yourself

Is Iphone 6 SE the same size as a iphone 5?

>>56322933
Really? that's cool. I never bothered to unlock the bootloader anyway, only flashed global rom and that's it.

>nexus priced at 499 for the small model base storage of 32gb

what the fuck, I hope this is a sick joke

>>56322967
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+Iphone+6+SE+the+same+size+as+a+iphone+5%3F

>>56322971
I haven't seen that at all, I've seen $449 as the base

>>56322968
It's pretty decent, it doesn't have better ram management either it just gets rid of all the bloat that the chinese and stable rom have which means you have more ram avaliable and better battery life. I don't really notice much difference though because I always have 1gb free ram even when running games.

>>56322986
thanks

Are there any phones coming out with band 12 t-mobile support and a big ass battery?

>>56319908
Op3 ez

>>56323021
Nice. I assume it's already on MiUI 8?

>>56323051
Yeah, although I don't think MIUI8 really changed much - at least from what I can tell the majority of the changes were superficial.

Users have been asking for better battery management and more focus on updating xiaomi phones to nougat, less bloatware etc. but mostly we get stuff that isn't really all that necessary.

are there any phones in the 5 inches or smaller range left with decent romsupport? mi 5 looks nice but has currently not that many flawless roms and I don't think I want to use miui.

What ROM to get for Moto G4? And is there any point in getting one?

>>56322794
How do I get it like this? I only have that stripe on the top where I can scroll left and right...

>>56323116
Stay stock. Moto aka Chinknovo has good ROMs.

>>56323090
Yep, still waiting on marshmallow which I hear is in beta testing, so nougat is probably waaay off.

>>56323143
Go into settings and change the toolbar settings. I have the stripe I prefer it desu.

>>56323094
Redmi 3s? think I saw roms for it on xda.

>>56323162
You don't really notice it imo because MIUI is snappy and beautiful but I'm sure that if they keep lagging behind there will be issues with apps not running correctly. At least they support their phones for a long time usually.

>>56323163
Ah okay, I see my fail now. For that menu you first need to swipe right after you swiped down... meh, the stripe is just the one swipe down, so I guess I will stay with the stripe.

>>56323184
Yeah iirc Mi5 is running marshmallow and it still misses some of it features, like google now on tap and doze. MiUI usually has their own replacement features for those things so they stick with their own solutions.
Hopefully nougat will come some day.

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>>56323229
Stripe is awesome.

>>56323090
>but mostly we get stuff that isn't really all that necessary.

This, it seems most of the developers are not working on the core system components or bugs but rather on some unnecessary new features like a 23th way of taking screenshots and so on...

>>56321798
Am I the only one hoping Nokia will seize the throne once more? Bringing back superior build quality, high survivability and long life. I'm probably being too optimistic, but it's a nice thought.

/g/, give me advice, i want a chinese phone:

I need a phone with:
- B20 (800MHz) LTE support
- At least 3GB RAM
- Good CPU
- Dual sim
- Frequent updates
- At least 16, but rather 32 GB

Fingerprint scanner, USB Type C are not required per se, but they would be great. QI charging would be an extra

I don't care about the camera. Either 5 or 5.5" screen is OK

Budget is in the ballpark of $200.

My current choice is the Vernee Apollo Lite. Any better choices?

>>56323172
seems like it has only a cm beta rom? although it is tempting when looking at the 4100 mah battery

Bump limit
New thread:

>>56323273

>>56323273

>>56323273

>>56323265
I think it's because they want to be seen as the apple of China so they have made their android skin feel more premium and have more features than their competitors.

I personally prefer stock Android but MIUI is pretty decent compared to touch wiz or whatever Sony uses.

Their phones are really cheap so it doesn't seem like anyone in the West would need to go for more than 2 years on a Xiaomi product. As long as you have a tempered screen glass protector and a case you can basically spend $200 every two years and be completely lag less.

>>56323295
Nexus 5x?

>>56323286
Leagoo Elite 5
K6000 Pro
RN3P Taiwan Edition.

>>56322511
Op3 ez.

>>56321418
Nexus 6 still is beautiful. I'd buy another same price, updated specs.

>>56323494
Thanks. How does one buy the RN3P Taiwan Edition?

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>>56323685
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Official-Global-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-3i-pro-prime-special-Version-Smartphone-5-5-Inch/2178148_32717858702.html

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thoughts on this?
It's a very affordable e-reader that has everything i need.
Only cons I see are 512mb ram and android 4.2
Would that be a problem?

https://www.energysistem.com/en/products/ereader/ereader_series/42535-energy_ereader_pro_hd

>>56323744
You are the king.

>>56323979
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371104.html

geekbuying too, although I suspect it's preorder on both.

>>56313849
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