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first for apt is shit

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>can't remove orphaned packages
>lol you didn't specify each and every single dependancies
Debibabbies are literally like BSD cucks in denial

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Guys I already tried Debian, it failed
Tried arch, I myself failed
Tried Debian again with rufus and I failed at this point because the base system will not install.

>>56294409
>>56294442
Pls help. I would install Gentoo but I would not survive at this moment of my endevour.

>>56294476
>>56294486
Excuse me, allow me to interject. 'apt-get remove/purge/autoremove meta-package-name' doesn't work because meta-packages mark all their dependencies as manually installed. And by dependencies, I mean all the packages which the meta-package installs with it. When you remove, purge, or autoremove the meta-package, literally solely the meta-package is removed, and non of the dependencies are.

So, for example, by doing 'apt-get remove/purge/autoremove gnome-core' you aren't really removing anything that the gnome-core meta-package installed, besides the meta-package gnome-core itself. You need a stupid snippet like this:

apt remove $(apt-cache depends gnome-core | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' ')

which will list all the dependencies and uninstall them "manually," so to speak.

>>56294509
Just posting this in the new thread

>>56294476
Think of a ""package manager"" that you use
If using 25 y/o ancient garbage like apt:
>Install gnome-core
gnome-contacts is installed

>remove gnome-core
>gnome-contacts is not removed

>YOU DIDN'T TELL TRANSMISSION TO REMOVE LIBTORRENT MUH -META PACKAGES

If using a newer, smarter package manager:
#pacman -Rns gnome
#dnf autoremove gnome

Move on...

>Guaranteed buttravaged debqueens are going to post nonsense to this post

>>56294526
>apt remove $(apt-cache depends gnome-core | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' ')

>Spoonfeeding this hard

It's true, apt is a dumb shit, confirmed

I'd just use sudo yum autoremove gnome

>>56294514
Consider suicide.

Allow me to interject for a moment, >>56294357 what you are referring to as a base system install failure, is, in fact, known as base system install failure/faggot denial service. Or as I have taken to calling it, get out of my /g/ newfag.

Sent from my iPhone

>>56294374
>unetbootin
>we told you it's shit

I thought rufus was only on windows
now rufus doesn't list my flash drive...

>>56294526
>apt remove $(apt-cache depends gnome-core | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' ')
So each time I want a package ""actually"" removed, I have to issue that long ass command?

>How to remove geany:
apt remove $(apt-cache depends deluge | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' ')

Epic

>>56294585
LMAO may be bacuse your debian is shit

jeez, all these pajeets defending debian - quite hillarious

>>56294591
>deluge
geany*

>>56294591
>So each time I want a package ""actually"" removed, I have to issue that long ass command?
Only metapackags, which afaik are mostly only desktop environments.

>How to remove geany: ...
geany isn't a metapackage, friend. Normal packages mark their dependencies as automatically installed, so they don't have the shit quirk of metapackages.

>>56294591
No, only for meta-packages like gnome-core

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>>56294615
>>56294486
Way to trigger the SJWs of Linux community

>>56294660
Scrot isn't a dependancy to screenfetch
Mpv is not a dependancy to smplayer
Firefox/Chromium is not a dependancy to gnome

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I have apache2 set up with mod_wsgi and some python powered sites on a laptop server. Working fine, python sites loading and running... I reboot and then mod_wsgi starts throwing errors that it can't find any python modules. They're installed with pip but it won't find them. Install them with apt-get and it starts working.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>>56294526#

    apt-cache depends gnome-core | awk -F: '{printf $2}' 

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Please guys. Yes I am I Indian but I got this Thinkpad from my father for my 18th birthday last week and he says he will return it if I cannot figure it out. He says he will get me a galaxy instead which would be okay because I have old Samsung S3 but please.

How do I fix Debian failure to install base system?? I am installing from USB with Rufus but I also have a CD just in case.

What is the failure??

I have my debian on /dev/sdb2. I wanna shrink sdb1 and make sdb2 bigger. Should I move the partition to front or can I just increase the size forward?

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>>56294706
Shut it down

>>56294710
Gparted shohuld do everythong automatically.

>>56294514
If you are new, throw debian into trash and get ubuntu. Then start using fedora/opensuse/arch/funtoo

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>>56294589
Ok ignore that
I have rufus working on another pc
what settings should I use for it?
is pic related ok?

>>56294757
But Snowden uses Debian and my friend talked to him and I want to be successful.

>>56294747
neat

oh god this will take forever

>>56294777
Snowden is using Tails.

I extracted a distro iso, so i can add things to it.
I cant seem to find a way to extract the squashf image.I've tried using unsquasfs but it dosent seem to want to extract it

Does anyone have a Blue Snowball microphone and able to get it working in Linux? I've googled for a couple days and nothing. Running Manjaro btw.

>>56294777
Are u one of those 1337 haxorzz?

>>56294808
Oh and it's not detected in

pavucontrol

or

alsamixer

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>>56294808
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy.

I can't resize my / logical partition with OS on it (arch linux, ext4) Should I do it with some kind of a live cd?

Daily reminder that Linux is nonfree software, which includes a high amount of binary-only code. It does not only violate the users freedom, but also decreases security.

>Debian/apt shitfest
Should I actually get fedora or RHEL dev edition?

>>56295044
You should learn to ignore advices from 12 year old kids on the internet and install a quality distro such as Debian. There's a reason why so many people create forks of it.

why do people call XFCE xfeces?

Seems very fast, minimal and looks really nice with the usual arc+numix theme.

Really doubting my DE choice sometimes, when I see people shitting on it all the time, but I haven't found another one so far, that convinced me as much.


Also does a compositor like compton introduce any kind of frame delay, while it's active?

>>56295089
>There's a reason why so many people create forks of it.
They are forking ubuntu, not debian. Also I actually think they have a fair point

>>56295115
>They are forking ubuntu, not debian.
While it isn't true (most distros fork Debian), you also forget that Ubuntu is also a fork of Debian.

>>56295115
who else is forking ubuntu? only know about mint and trisquel

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What do I need to fix pic related?
Here is my .Xresources (without the color definitions):

xterm*VT100.geometry:     85x25
xterm*faceName:           Terminus:style=Regular:size=10
xterm*dynamicColors:      true
xterm*utf8:               2
xterm*eightBitInput:      true
xterm*saveLines:          512
xterm*scrollKey:          true
xterm*scrollTtyOutput:    false
xterm*scrollBar:          false
xterm*rightScrollBar:     true
xterm*jumpScroll:         true
xterm*multiScroll:        true
xterm*toolBar:            false

>>56295165
Around 50 more distros

>>56295202
such as?

>>56295089
>many people create forks of it.
Why? Isn't debian a ""quality distro""?

>>56295216
man firefox

>>56295168
try

XTerm*utf8: 1
XTerm*locale: 1

>>56295221
>firefox is a fork of ubuntu
wat

>>56295290
>wat
you are dumb

>>56295280
Tried it, doesn't work.
I have the same problem in my tty's.

>>56295299
He could be a smart 15 year old.

>>56295290
quick question, I'm currently setting up LXDE on arch.

have to write exec startlxde in ~/.xinitrc
was wondering how to save it and get back

>>56295319
But he failed to be so, like you

>>56295328
Install a proper login manager

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>>56295338
Please keep this general satiated with only high quality posts, kid.

>>56295315
Maybe it's your locale. Try running:
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 xterm
Just to see what xterm does.

>>56295359
sorry im not into kde/gnome

>>56295378
You don't get to call people that are older than you "kid". Epic meme btw, saved. Now go back to >>>/b/

>>56295395
responding shitposting with shitposting

>>56295404
I will call anybody less muscularly developed a kid

>>56295168
you need unicode locale
post output of

$ locale -a
$ locale

>>56295436
Glad I am not a musclehead

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>>56295379
It says

Warning: couldn't find charset data for locale en_US.UTF=8; using ISO 8859-1.

and now it displays pic related instead of d's.

>>56295465

$ locale -a
C
C.UTF-8
en_AG
en_AG.utf8
en_AU.utf8
en_BW.utf8
en_CA.utf8
en_DK.utf8
en_GB.utf8
en_HK.utf8
en_IE.utf8
en_IN
en_IN.utf8
en_NG
en_NG.utf8
en_NZ.utf8
en_PH.utf8
en_SG.utf8
en_US.utf8
en_ZA.utf8
en_ZM
en_ZM.utf8
en_ZW.utf8
POSIX
sr_RS
sr_RS.utf8
$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=sr_RS
LC_TIME=sr_RS
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=sr_RS
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=sr_RS
LC_NAME=sr_RS
LC_ADDRESS=sr_RS
LC_TELEPHONE=sr_RS
LC_MEASUREMENT=sr_RS
LC_IDENTIFICATION=sr_RS
LC_ALL=

Hello guys, Kali linux as main OS guy here again.

Now i want to make a peristant USB instead, anyone got a guide for how to do it from Windows?

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I want to use Cinnamon on my laptop, so should I install Ubuntu then install Cinnamon or just install Mint?
I'm currently using Ubuntu+Cinnamon on my desktop and I'm unsure if Mint has anything to offer

>>56295549
Mint if you don't support jews

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>>56295571
It's decided. Mint will be installed.

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>>56295591
Bye and have a nice day anon

>>56295477
>>56295525
locale is fine
is xterm compiled with unicode support?

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So, I have a Y700 and decided to convert full time.

I chose Ubuntu-MATE, but for some reason I feel like the battery drains somewhat faster.

I also haven't been able to get the subwoofer to work and could only google unsuccessful stories.

Can someone shed some light?

>>56295624
install gentoo

>>56295614
It's probably not.
Is it possible to use unicode in a tty?

>>56295614
Should I just use urxvt?

>>56295694
You can use terminal emulators for the linux framebuffer such as fbterm which supports unicode

>>56295711
Yes

i got gparted running a job and it's gonna take 5 hours

after like 10 minutes the display turns off, which is fine. will the live image continue and not put itself to sleep or turn itself off?

>>56295794
>5 hours
nigga what?
>you will have to see if your system goes to sleep after X minutes. Your monitor is most likely turning off from no use, and unless you have it set to sleep

>>56295841
Resizing a 500gb partition to 300gb, resizing a 120gb partition to 320gb, moving data on a 5.2k rpm hdd

>>56294759
use mbr if you are using bios or have legacy boot selected in your uefi use gpt if you only have uefi enabled

How does one actually do a screenfetch in Manjaro?

I have a flash drive formatted with ubunto using rufus.
The grub in manjaro doesnt recognize it
What should i do?

>>56296570
>this post
average manjaro user

Hey guys, I'm kind of stumped and could really use a hand.

Icedove (Thunderbird) on my Debian Testing desktop doesn't seem to be working. It was working just fine a week ago or so, I'm not sure if some update introduced a bug or if it's something wrong on my config's end.

I'm using 3 Gmail accounts that are sync'd to Icedove, via IMAP. Everytime I try to load them, I get a notification saying Failed to connect to server [email-here]. When attempting to purge and start adding them one by one, I can't get the OAuth2 window to give me the Google sign-in, it's just blank, and I can't copy the URL. I suspect the problem has something to do with that?

When I use Icedove with the exact same settings on my laptop with Debian Sid, I have no issue, it works fine.

What would you guys advice? Disable OAuth2 and try normal passwords, or what?

>>56296595
Hilarious, you couldn't make this shit up.

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Why the fuck won't Gentoo install

I spent an hour and a half meticulously following the guide on their wiki. Configured and compiled the kernel myself (and I know I didn't fuck it up because I've done it many times before on CRUX), configured locales, timezones, installed GRUB2, no errors. Reboot, get a kernel panic about "unable to mount root fs 0 0".

Fuck I'm mad. I'm at least glad I did this on a VM to see if it was a meme or not first.

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>>56296646
Just confirmed, the problem is with OAuth2. Adding email accounts with OAuth2 enabled results in me getting a blank window when I'm supposed to confirm the sign in. Using normal passwords (and enabling "less secure apps" in Gmail's settings) does the trick.

Does anyone know what could be wrong with OAuth2? How can I test if it's something on my end or if it's a bug in Testing that I should report? Like I said, on my laptop running Sid it works fine.

Anyone here running Debian Testing that could check if OAuth2 also gives you issues with Gmail? I would hugely appreciate it

Can anyone recommend a book that provides a good guide guide to the modern GNU/Linux OS? I'm looking for something I can read over a couple months and hopefully come out with a much better understanding of how the OS works.

>>56296994
install gentoo

>>56296994
>>>/t/713097

APT wants to remove

 libreoffice-gtk pulseaudio-module-udev pulseaudio-module-x11 

how do I know if it's cool? I've searched for details on the packages but I don't know how to tell if they're actually obsolete or if APT will take away my virginity

Got a new laptop and I'm trying to install Ubuntu but every time I get to the end of the installation process it gives a fatal error saying that Grub can't be installed. I'm not really sure what to do but everything I have tried already hasn't cut it.

It's an Acer with W10 pre-installed.

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>>56295591

>>56296919
Looks life you didn't compile your filesystem or the modules necessary for your drives.

>>56297134
People are using Windows.
People will install Mint.
People love trash.

>>56297043
>>56297064
Thanks

>>56297184
the real question is, why mint when there is good ol' noobuntu?

>>56297100
neve rmind I found about the apt changelog command

>>56294687
It's a package recommendation.

>>56294514
RTFM

I'm tired of Thunar being a buggy piece of trash, what's a good file manager to replace it with?

>>56297350
emacs

>>56297350
nemo

>>56297350
Ranger and spacefm

>>56297350
GNU coreutils

How do i change my username so i can screenfetch without getting doxed?

i tried usermod -l newname oldname

But it just says user XXXX currently used by process.

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>https://sourceforge.net/projects/xpq4/
>some distros now look so windowsy that are literally unidentifiable
jesus christ how horrifying

>>56297556
Your username won't get you ddosed, your gateway IP will.

>>56297808
How else are you going to trick your relatives into not fucking the internet without a condom

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>>56297962

Hey guys I'm having GRUB troubles

So I installed Windows 7 after my Linux install and of course GRUB got messed up, so i need to reinstall it?

I chrooted into linux install and now do I need to re-install grub, then regenerate the grubconfig??

>>56298015
yes

>>56298091
Should I clean everything in the /boot directory to get a fresh start or no?

>>56298130
no

>>56298209
Alright well I managed to reinstall grub and it booted Linux fine, however Windows 7 didn't show up. I then ran os-prober but Windows 7 did not show up

What do?

>>56298248
you're not supposed to run os-prober
you regenerate grub config after installing os-prober

>>56298283
I wonder why grub config did not pick up Windows 7 after regenerating the mkconfig, because os-prober detects it

>>56297860
I dont want my real name out there. Any help to give?

>>56298283
Ah okay, re generated grub.cfg and it detects it now.

Thank you

>>56298314

screenfetch -d -host

Do not drink "hard root beer". It' sjust beer that is too sickly sweet to drink 6 of them. Waste of money.


If you like drinking 1 drink while using GNU/Linux, go for it. But if you drink to get drunk it's not a good choice. Better off with vodka and real root beer.

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I'm installing Gentoo on my T520 and when I install Grub I get: "efibootmgr: efi variables are not supported" and the system doesn't boot. And when I set "UEFI/Legacy Boot" in BIOS to "UEFI only" my LiveUSB doesn't boot.
Does anyone know the problem? Should I use mbr/BIOS instead of gpt/UEFI? Is it a problem with the LiveUSB?

>>56297556

alias screenfetch='screenfetch -t | sed "s/$(whoami).*//"'

looks better

>>56298394
Sounds like a bad hang over to me

>>56298408
Try using systemd boot instead of grub.

>>56298394
>Vodka and rootbeer

Is this any good?

>>56298461
>systemd
>gentoo
I just threw up in my mouth a little.

>>56298461
this >>56298476
I'd rather use Grub and I feel like using systemd boot won't help anyway

>>56296919
What are you talking about?
This is the gentoo experience. This is just step 0

>>56296919
Sounds like a problem with your fstab

What is the proper way to build within a chroot so nothing unneeded is packaged?
Busybox?

Is it possible to build a LFS system and use Arch or Manjaro's repositories after? I want to really learn how stuff works and build the OS by myself, but having to compile to install anything after that would be a pain in the ass.

>>56299043
>want to learn how to os
>but
>i dont want to do any actual building
No.

I tried to set the windows key as mod in dwm, but nothing happened. I checked out the code in xev, and there is no output for the windows key. Any suggestions or am I boned?

>>56299201
its super

>>56299181
Did you even read?
>having to compile to install anything after that would be a pain in the ass
>after

>>56299212
I think you are misunderstanding. When I press the windows key in xev, I get no output at all. When I press any other key, I get a press and release event.

So i was using my linuxmint desktop today and had to force shutdown because it froze. turned it on and booted up fine.

I return home and turn the system back on, go through login screen just fine (the one with the alternating backgrounds) and then I'm presented with what I can describe as a glitched, non functional screen. force shut it down and booted it up and same problem happened.

so, what's my best bet? do I just do a fresh reinstall and lose all my files? or is there another option?

>>56299043
thats dumb
just do lfs in a vm and run something else for your main machine

>>56299570
press cntrl+alt+f2
you should be in a new shell. See if you can login and launch it manually
>lose
bruh, pop in a live usb and copy your data off if it comes to that.You can do that everytime as long as it isnt the hd going out

How long is a chinese name

How can I remove Konqueror/other KDE stock applications without fucking up everything else?
http://pastebin.com/RYEJuMmC

>>56299201
>>56299276
In config.h, under "key definitions", change the 1 in "#define MODKEY Mod1Mask" to a 4.

That should change what I presume was the alt key into the WINDOWS key, for your LINUX operating system.

help I'm having an issue where xorg is crashing on my laptop after being connected to an external monitor. It doesn't happen immediately, usually only after a decent length of time. I'm not really sure exactly how much.

I'm using the "Toggle external monitor" script found on the archlinux xrandr wiki page to switch between the external and laptop screens. I'm using archlinux if that matters.

>>56294670
is that a parody website?

>>56301388
>archlinux
>xorg is crashing
you asked for it

What's .sh exactly? Could it infect my computer like .exe?

>>56301388
yes hello i would personally suggest you install windows 10 please it is a very stable operating system and will resolve your issue promptly thank you

>>56301624
>What's .sh exactly?
its a script
>Could it infect my computer like .exe?
yes

>>56298476

>gentoo's main point is not to use systemd

Kill yourself, meme and myth parrot.

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So manjaro comes with these installed but when they are installed you cant update them though the gnome extension website... So should I remove them and install them through the site?

>>56294509
>>56294533
BunsenLabs is pretty good for this purpose. It's a continuation of Crunchbang on Debian Jessie. Crunchbang++ is a community project, while BunsenLabs actually has support. Very very light ram usage, though I'm not sure how well you'd fare with only 512mb with web browsing. I'd suggest upgrading to at least 1GB if you could.

>>56302411
>that font rendering

>>56302465

The amount of RAM won't make a difference when he's browsing. His main bottleneck will be the CPU. I hope he enjoys the frustration of highly unresponsive, slideshow-like browsing.
It will be like that no matter which distribution you use, assuming you're using the same software on them.

>>56302411

No one can answer that for you but yourself.
Realize what the difference is between having your package manager install it or having it installed by the extension manager. A package manager installs it neatly and system-wide (most likely for all users). The extension manager will most likely install it somewhere in your HOME directory and only for yourself and it won't be tracked by your package manager. You'll have to rely on a shitty tool to keep things up-to-date and that's disgusting and Windows territory.

>>56302496
When I said "how well you'd fare" I was referring to the fact that web browsers now use on average 500mb of RAM just after browsing for a few minutes, so pair that with the ~150mb idle ram usage Bunsen uses (which is ridiculously low for a modern OS), he would be constantly swapping while on the web. Anything other than that he'd be fine on 512mb.

>>56294514
Use Ubuntu, fäm.
It just werks.

>>56302534

Even with 1GB or more RAM, browsing the modern internet will be a nightmare on that computer.

t. Pentium 4 Northwood user with 1GB RAM

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>>56302468
Here you go I fixed it for you

>>56302527
Im the only user so having it in home will be fine I guess ill just do it through the extension manager just to keep them all in one place

>>56302567
I am aware, but I can't imagine the eternal hell you would be experiencing by being constantly trapped in a pit of swap.

Got a dual-boot setup, what is the best way to sync files (documents and pictures folder) between both OSs?

>>56301388
You can try arandr or

man xrandr

.

How do i change "localhost" into "something.com"?

Can that be done?

>>56303042
You can't change it per-se, but you could modify your local HOSTS file (wherever it is in linux) to redirect "something.com" towards localhost, creating a similar effect as though you had changed localhost into something else.

>>56302588
One hackjob of a way would be setting all your other OS partitions to be mounted automatically on bootup, and then using symlinks from your home dir to the relevant folders on the other OS. Not really "syncing", but you get access to the same files on both systems.

Not gonna work very well though if you have disk encryption setup on one OS, since then you need to share the crypto keys with both OSs. And if the other OS is Windows, you'd also need to make sure that Windows is always properly shut down before you attempt this (and not in standby/sleep mode), as otherwise you'll be unable to mount its' file systems.

So if i have the ubuntu mate installed, which is bascially ubuntu with some custom window manager or some shit, how do i turn it into ubuntu server?
I need it because it's not possible (super complicated) to install ubuntu server on the raspberry pi, but it's easy to install ubuntu mate so i need to strip it of the desktop trash and turn into into a server

>installing a different distribution to rule out hardware issues
>have to reinstall your old one later
>have to set everything up again
>it's so tedious despite having all of the config files backed up

Why is life so cruel?

So to install Windows after Arch I have to

>create a partition for Windows and install it
>boot Arch through CD
>install grub again and configure it

right?

Guys how do I into backups? Like whole system and config. files? Maybe automatically in certain days of weeks.

Using Debian.

>>56304022
Backup only your home and etc folder

>>56304045
And how do I do that?

>>56304093
ctrl + c, ctrl + v

>>56304022
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Synchronization_and_backup_programs

>>56304103
>>56304108
Thank anons. Holy fuck I am a retard.

>>56304093
rsync

rsync -rv --size-only "$HOME" /backup/home
rsync -rv --size-only /etc /backup/etc

How do stop the computer from booting into X ? i want to disable the graphic interface and only use terminal, it's ubuntu

>>56304153
Nice. This will be handy.
Thank a bunch.

>>56304213
Disable lightdm.

>>56294545
this
pacman is the real thing
>>56294514
seppuku
>>56294533
arch will do it.It runs okaish on my old laptop(I must check the processor but I am p sure it's really weak)
>>56295571
I don't like ubuntu either but you know that Mint is basically an older ubuntu right?

>>56299043
You will never know the pleasure of compiling everything and your laptop going to insane temperatures while compiling libreoffice

>>56304326
>insane temperatures while compiling libreoffice
A fork bomb will do the same.

>>56304333
but you don't accomplish anything that way anon

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>>56303804
pretty much, or do what i do, install windows through a VM, not to a virtual disk, but the real disk, like;
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1G -cdrom windows.iso -hda /dev/sdz -enable-kvm -boot d
this way you can install windows without leaving arch, and just reinstall grub once it's done before rebooting
you can also ensure grub is set up properly by starting the vm and seeing what happens
just remember not to:
a. touch any partition that is in use/mounted on the host from in the VM
b. boot into the same arch system you're running on the host
either of these will cause bad things to happen

pic related, my main bootloader displayed in a VM

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how could i make a usb with a package i want to install on a TAILS session????????

the hard part is im working from windows ATM and have no internet besides iphone tethering (not wifi)

>>56299810
thanks very much

>>56296570
sudo pacman -S screenfetch
when it is done installing type in screenfetch

Hey anons i have laptop lenovo lancer g-50 and i have connected Samsung s23c650 monitor on it, like extended display.
Samsung is full hd, but laptop monitor is shit.
I have problem when i want to watch full hd video, it is laggy but when i turn of laptop monitor and use only samsung everything is ok.
Can i do something about this or i need to turn of monitor every time?

How do i change my username ?

When i type usermod -l newusername oldusername
i get
Username already in use PID 599 --user

What the fuck

>>56305211
dont do it anon, dont do it

>>56305228
Why not?

>>56305228
I killed the pid and it fucked my entire computer so had to restart.

The number of packages in a repo is only indicative of the precompiled binaries, right?

So would I have access to all the same programs on any system so long as I build from source?

>>56305592
Yes in theory.

In practice however, you're gonna have to resolve all build dependencies and compatibility issues yourself when you come across them, and that's not the easiest thing in the world to do.

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Kali, pentoo or blackarch?

>>56300627
So you have a meta package installed? Removed the meta package and you will then be able to remove konqueror. I don't have that installed in kde.

>>56305671
none, after i breached networks of couple of my neighbors and captured their password i realized how boring it all is.. what was i do with it? look at their retarded facebook pictures? boring, post nasty shit on their wall? i'm not an edgy teenager who finds that amusing.. empty their bank account? that is a serious crime and i would felt too bad for ruining their lives..
it's just... boring. and pentesting is even worse because you aren't even doing that for enjoyment.
just install ubuntu boy

>>56305815
This anon gets it.

So guys, I need some help

I'm trying to copy some files to my laptop from my desktop using scp.

However, when I use the command, it starts copying things that are also outside the folder I want it to copy.

What gives?

It's literally jumping over to my Videos folder and starting to copy episodes from TV shows when my selected folder is in /home/foo

>>56306276
What the hell is scp?

>>56306276
Use rsync.

>>56306304
Basically cp but through SSH

>>56306315
>cp but through SSH
On 4chan it could have a lot of meanings.

>>56306315
Ok. what is the exact command you used?

>>56306328

scp -P 7851 -r [email protected]:/home/anon/copytarget /home/anon/copyhere

It starts out copying copytarget, but then it jumps back up a folder and goes into Videos for some reason???

>>56306327
I guess so, heh

>>56306309
I will try this too, but I'm curious as to why it's not working properly. I've used scp tons of times before

>>56306304
special containment procedures
a collection of creepypastas

>>56306328
>>56306367
I'm using a non-default port, that's why the -P 7851 is there

>>56306327
"cp" is just a file copying tool, basically the command line equivalent of "ctrl+c, ctrl+v"
SSH is a protocol used to do various things securely with a remote machine

scp is similar in function to ftp, only it's secure, working over SSH

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>>56305815
Kali it is.

Antergos keeps ducking up my wifi, and I feel like trying Debian stable, is Debian considered lightweight?

>>56306485
With XFCE it is.

>>56306485
A Debian netinstall is one of the lightest things around, broski.

>>56306488
>XFCE

AAAAAAA

No.

>>56306485
Use it with LXDE or just a window manager of your choosing if you want it to be lightweight and usable

>>56306395
Are you serious or trying to troll?

Does anyone know if the current daily builds of Kubuntu or Ubuntu gnome have implemented kernel 4.7 yet?

>>56306533
?

>>56306547
I use kubuntu 16.04 with backports and it doesn't yet. Pretty sure it's easy to use a ppa for the latest kernel though.

>>56306276
scp -r follows all symlinks it the source directory tree, which is most likely what's happening in your case.

>>56306609
Yeah it was symlinks inside the directory that I hadn't noticed

Thanks!

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>tfw you try the wayland session with GNOME
>try resizing the file manager's window by dragging its corner
>it's all so smooth, no black backgrounds or similar effects

It's beautiful.

>>56306609
Following symlinks by default is one of the most stupid idea that someone can have.

What does it mean to know Linux? employers seem to post it on the job requirements, but I am not ever sure what it means.

>>56301410
https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment
Sadly it isn't.

>>56295646
this

>>56306822
They probably mean Linux administration. That'd what you to know your way around the shell and how the kernel actually works.

>>56306849
It's a containment stub. This way debian doesn't get bothered by them.

>>56306579
Yeah, I tried that but in short it breaks the os. Waiting for yakkety seems like the best option at this point.

Also, why is kde so screwed up? The features are great in theory, which is why I chose it, but almost everything is broken. It forgets my shortcuts after 20 mins, plasma crashes at least once or twice a session, and sometimes it uses 7 gb of ram for no reason.

I switched to gnome because of this, but it has issues with amdgpu-pro at the moment, which is the only way for me to use my RX 480 with 4.4.

Anyone have an idea if kubuntu yakkety will fix the problems I'm having? I would switch back to it in that case.

>>56306928
Why not compile your own kernel and use a WM?

>>56306928
What do you mean it breaks the OS? Which ppa did you use?
I don't have those problems with KDE. For sure it's not completely rock solid like 4.* used to be but it's not too bad. I don't see ram issues like that either, what is using that?

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>>56306983
It boots to a black screen, or sometimes pic related. That's from the official download deb packages for the generic amd64 headers and image. I followed a guide that was recommended to me on ubuntuforums.org

The ram was being used by various parts of the de such as plasma, kwin, and krunner, each of which were using more that 1 GB. This didn't happen every session, but it happened more than once and was something I took note of. I wasn't running any applications at the time either.

Plasma crashes for no reason sometimes, but one thing that seems to cause it is when I connect to the access point I run from the pc (it does work after restarting though)

>>56306941
I've only been using GNU/Linux for a few months and I'm simply not experienced enough for that.

I don't want to turn this into a tech support post or anything; worst-case scenario is that I just use windows for another month until Yakkety is ready. I was just wondering if it had 4.7 yet.

>>56306941

KDE has a WM, it's called Kwin. He's already using a "WM".

How do I use [[ ]]

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I made something for people spreading FUD about thumbnails.

>>56307968
Yes, but in addition to an extremely buggy DE. Standalone WMs have less stability problems usually. Try crashing dwm for instance.

>>56308064
Don't use them it's useless. Use only [ ].

>>56308095
How do I use these then

>>56308108
What do you want to do?

>>56308108
They're next to "p" and "enter" respectively.

>>56308121
just explain its functionality as a command line utility for scripting

Warning:

If you're using wicd, never let Network-Manager into your system. It's literally satan.

I didn't even realize I had it until I checked systemd-analyze and I saw it taking up like 10 seconds of boot time, and when my Wi-Fi started fucking up all the time. Apparently I installed it as a dependency for tlp-rdw without realizing it.

Good fucking riddance ya cunt

>>56308162
You can test condition to use in an if then else

How can I adjust the sound in Linux Mint / VLC to get the loudest sounds quieter and the quietest louder? Windows has the perfect setting in its sound manager.

Especially for the VLC player, what exactly do I have to change in settings?

What is the difference between fluxbox and blackbox?

>>56308351
Fluxbox is a rewritten version of blackbox with more features and it's newer. Blackbox was the first *box, then came openbox and fluxbox. There's no reason to use blackbox.

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anyone have the commands to rice ubuntu like this?

>>56308367
You already have your answer.

>>56308365
Cool. I'll use Fluxbox, what can it do that Openbox cannot?

How much space does your / (root) partition usually take up?

And I'm not talking about all you ricers that don't really do anything with your computer. I mean the programmers and devs around here.

What are your ball park figures for it?

I'm closing in on my 30GB mark and I'm scared

>>56308381
It has a panel built in.

>>56308412
My root is 900 GB. :^)

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>>56294435
Damn! I have to post ITT.

So, I posted awhile back saying that arch can't connect to my uni's wifi because of enterprise shit. No help was recieved for this, so I went to the IT dept, and they said they can't give me the certs or whatever so I can set up a wpa2-enterprise connection "because of security reasons". A bunch of people online said wicd should help, so I installed it, it didn't help, and uninstalled it, now networkmanager doesn't work either. Wifi-menu just flat out says it refuses to connect. Ubuntu and Kali work, though. Am I screwed? Can I fix networkmanager and enterprise connections on arch, is there a better distro, or should I just use noobuntu?

I dont get it
Im trying out lubuntu out of a liveUSB device and im getting estimation of 3h and 20 minutes of battery time with my Getac S400 or S400G1 as for first generation

>>56308463
Fedora is always a good choice.

How to improve this thing

[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command1
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command2
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command3
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command4
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command5
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command6
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command7
[[ -f ~/.somefile ]] || command8

>>56308552
Does it auto-work with WPA enterprise like Windows, Ubuntu, and Kali do?

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>>56308378

so why does it still look like shit?

>>56308274

            68ms upower.service
            63ms NetworkManager.service
            60ms abrtd.service
[/code}

wicd is broken hobbyist trash. NM actually has features beyond connecting to your mom's WiFi.

>>56308569
because it doesn't look shit at all, it looks very nice actually.

>>56308552
Uhh no it's not.

>>56307833
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
>First, if one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.) unless there is an extra package available for the version you are testing, you will need to uninstall the module first, in order to test the mainline kernel. If you do not uninstall these modules first, then the upstream kernel more than likely will not boot.

The ram problem is strange but there are things you can do (disable baloo, akonadi etc). I noticed quite a difference in stability once upgrading to the backports.

Why you need 4.7, just out of interest?

>>56308090

I don't see what the various utilities bundled with KDE have to do with alleged Kwin crashes.

>>56308274

Works on my machine and on this guy's >>56308572 machine.

~ systemd-analyze blame
          4.962s dev-sda2.device
          4.366s ufw.service
          1.503s lightdm.service
          1.347s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
          1.264s NetworkManager.service
          1.230s systemd-vconsole-setup.service
          1.200s systemd-journald.service
...

>>56301372
I know that. I can't change the modmask in dwm, because X does not register a keypress for the windows key. I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to manually program a key or something?

do media keys work in Xfce?

>>56308928
>Reading comprehension
He means don't have both wicd and Network Manager at the same time or it fucks shit up

If you're gonna use Network Manager, just have that
If you're gonna use wicd, just have that

>>56308572
If you're gonna start a flame war you might as well double check your shit before posting m8

>>56309066
If they don't then set them to.

>>56308557
Bump

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What exactly is going on here? I made a copy of some file for wicd to connect to my uni's wifi and when I restarted it, this is all that came up. It also keeps going back to the login screen for some reason.

>>56309071

>don't have both wicd and Network Manager at the same time or it fucks shit up
You should improve your reading comprehension. His post was worded in a way to imply that it's exclusively Network Manager's fault and not the fact that he has 2 services managing his network. The same thing would happen if he would use a combination of any 2 network managing related things.

>>56309310
>If you're using wicd, never let Network-Manager into your system

I don't know familia, that seems like I'm making it pretty clear that it's the fault of using two services at the same time.

>>56309173

You cannot start GUI programs in a tty. You must start them in an X session.

>>56309173
startx

>>56309173
Undo the change you made, restart. It should be back to normal. Then take a look at what you added. That might give us a clue.

>>56309380
>>56309378
Also duh yes, startx before that. To see what kinda error message you get.

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We have more content on the two threads over /t/ - Torrents

Training videos for GNU/Linux [NEW CONTENT]
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Ported videogames [NEW CONTENT]
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

We need a thread on /vg/ for gaymers because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers, here is the pasta
http://pastebin.com/7Xzi8e2H

can someone explain to me the difference between systemd and init.d? why are both of them running on my machine? i thought systemd replaced init.d, do they coexist?

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>https://archwomen.org/
Why are you using a feminist SJW distro?

>>56309930
>archqueens will defend this

>>56309930
Oh man I love these gals already. Please trigger the heck out of the neckbears, I'll get the popcorn.

Anyone have recommendations for how to make a bash script un-editable while still allowing it to be executable?

Assume that everyone with access to the server has access to ownership of this file (so chmod'ing wouldn't work). Was thinking of encrypting it somehow or converting it to a binary, but no luck so far.

>>56309992
chattr +i cock.sh
-i to revert.

What is the absolute most stable and reliable Linux distro? I care not for "the bleeding edge" or any meme like that, I tried Kubuntu, which was pretty but utter shit in terms of stability and crashes, I tried Ubuntu Gnome, which was freezing on the desktop and would not reboot, I tried Solus, which would freeze if left alone for more than an hour and would not allow me to install Nvidia drivers no matter what (I did quite like it tho). Now I can troubleshoot I am not retarded, however I do not wish to troubleshoot every little trivial thing, and some are not even fixable.

So my question is, what is the absolutely most stable linux distro in which I wont have to do shit like restoring a crash after installing multiple fonts or have to reset it if I leave the room for an hour, is there a distro for workstations?

>>56308557
why check for ~/.somefile every time? can the commands delete the file? Or are there actually different files for each command?

Seems like most fonts don't support unicode characters. Do I have to use a unicode font to stop getting squares everywhere?

>>56310363

Either Ubuntu or RHEL, probably. Anything that's sold with a commercial license.

>>56310518
yes I do think you need a unicode font to display unicode
Or are you asking if it's possible to have some other placeholder instead of squares or not display them altogether?

>>56310363
Debian Stable is the most rock solid thing in the Linux world. Normally used for servers.

For desktop users, Debian Testing is fantastic with newer software and still lots of stability

And for developers and people who like the bleeding edge (ie not you), Debian Sid is wonderful as well. Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid, so that should tell you a lot.

>>56310602
>Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid, so that should tell you a lot.
That is a bit misleading. It is based on a snapshot of Debian Sid and then is stablized before release, pretty much the same way Debian is, albeit with a much quicker time frame.

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>>56308456
Same here

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>>56310602
>Debian Stable is the most rock solid thing in the Linux world.

>Boot into live ISO
>Display manager crashes reproducibly
>mfw

>>56310727
>live
>display manager
If this is the case then file a bug report.

>>56310654
Even stabilized it is less stable than debian sid.

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>>56310818
What makes you think I did not format the flash drive with Arch master race right away?


Debian stable works on half a decade older machines

>>56310363
Haven't had any problems with Fedora 24 at all.

>>56310818
>>56310727
>>56310602


Well there we go. I guess I will just go back to Windows. I tried to use Linux I really did, but until it can handle basic things like not requiring to reboot into terminal after the driver don't work and freezing everything besides the mouse I just cant be bothered to use it.

>>56310547

>RHEL
>Paying for Linux

>>56310855
People like you are the reason why everyone hates arch users. You didn't file a big report, you didn't try to find out where the issue comes from, you didn't even consider it maybe was a user error, instead you just shitpost about it on the next taiwanese beer brewing forum.

>>56310916
>I tried to use Linux I really did
It doesn't sound like it to be honest.

>>56310916
Pretty sure that was not a linux issue. Maybe if you actually gave us information we could tell you what yhe problem was.
I personally had considerably less problems with GNU/Linux than I had with windows and mac os.

>>56310916

The question wasn't what was free, it was what was stable. It's king in the commercial world, which makes stability a high priority.

If you want something less stable, maybe CentOS would work. Fedora is "cutting edge" relatively speaking.

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>>56310916
>Well there we go. I guess I will just go back to Windows.
It's better than using THE SJW distro

>>56310920
>file a bug report
No, I'm sure NASA will do the job. Other distros don't have this problem, it's a debian stable issue only and I don't even use Debian.

>>56310989
Oh you are that guy again. You want to become a meme like shitty apps guy did pretty hard don't you?

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>>56311042
>that guy
My name is buzz

>>56311069
>>56310989
Get a trip code so I can filter you.

>>56311087
>How to deal with avatar fags

Literally just stop replying to them. Why do you people never learn

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>>56311087
>>56311108
There's no getting away

>>56310971

Well maybe it's not a Linux problem and it's a problem with the DE's, it matters little since all I care about is stability since I do not wish to fix OS when I need to do other work. I could give you any information you like, however I have already found out what the problem was by googling the issues and I can assure you that it was not my fault or my computers. As for problems in Windows, yes I do get those like everybody, and I despise Microsoft and their policies, however it is much more stable in my experience.

>>56310964

Well I tried various different distros and on each every one I had to spend most of the time solving trivial problems and no matter how many problems I solve new ones just pile up with every program I install, every disk I try to install and so on.

>>56310985

Yes you are correct, that was the question. I will try CentOS since I see it is workstation-oriented.

>>56311193
There's always someone who claims nothing works when no one else has the same problems.

>>56311193
The most stable DE I know is xfce, right before gnome without animations.
The most stable WM (if there really even is any) is probably dwm or tinyWM since they have very clean code and get tested a lot.

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>>56294435
>Finally got Musicbee running and playing nice in wine + compiz

Feeling pretty good, desu.

>>56311239

Yes I know, but obviously people do have the same problems since I found either a solution a question or a bug report on every problem I had. Maybe I just had a series of unfortunate problems becose of what I wanted to do with Linux, but I do doubt it since like I said, it was some very basic stuff (Like installing multiple fonts in KDE gave me a crash). I am not giving up on Linux, but I am disappointed in it.

>>56311252

I will try CentOS with xfce next I guess.

Whats the preferred method of getting steam to run on manjaro

STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)
libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so
libGL error: driver pointer missing
libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so
libGL error: driver pointer missing
libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast

I used to delete the included libraries but the commands to find and delete them are not in the arch wiki anymore

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam/Troubleshooting#steam_runtime_issues

>>56311351
>>56311252
Actually if I might chime in, I think MATE is just as (if not more than) stable as Xfce.

It's a fork of GNOME, and in my opinion, a lot more works out of box.

I've had better luck with it than Xfce (and they are busy porting it to GTK3 and it looks GREAT so far. Caja is much improved.) I was a diehard Xfce fan for a long time, but I just have had better luck with it.

>>56311351
You are disappointed in it before using it for at least a month?
I will give you a money back guarantee if you want.
>>56311340
Why would you run something as simple as a music player in wine? What is the problem with using one of the hundreds of alternatives?

>>56311395
I completely forgot about mate, yes, that is pretty damn stable too for a DE.

>>56311414
I just kind of hate all the music players I've tried in Linux. It seems kind of like you either choose a) functionlity or b) looks.

It's the only real Windows program I've found myself not being able to find a better substitute for. Every program seems to just be lacking SOMETHING. Clementine is great, but I Find the UI to be a little dated. Then you have Tomahawk, which looks great but is pretty featurelses.

Closest I've gotten to filling that void was a few MPD frontends, but they just never ran right, and I ended up running into a pulseaudio issue a few times.

This just werks for me.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/785904/redshift-and-flux-f-lux-both-installed-but-no-visible-effect-from-either

>>56311414
musicbee shits on all of those "alternatives"
There are dozens of music players on linux but they are all shit

>>56311711
The combination of programs I use absolutely obliterates musicbees.
Cmus for listening, puddletag for tagging/organizing, mpv for streaming.

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I've been banging my head against the wall for quite a while now, can anyone help?

I'm running a game on Wine, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. When it's vanilla, freshly installed from GOG, everything works as expected. When I apply a very useful unofficial patch however, I suddenly lose the ability to ALT-TAB from it or change workspaces without it losing full-screen status and becoming this tiny window with visual glitches. I can resize to near full screen size, but it still looks bad.

Any ideas for how to prevent this behavior while still keeping the patch?

All I want is to be able to Alt-Tab or Super+scroll while playing and when I come back for it to be just as I left it.

I already tried assigning a wine profile via winecfg to emulate a virtual desktop for the game, but it doesn't work.

I'm running short of ideas. I even tried running it from another x-server, but apparently when I did that I couldn't return to my original x-server and my computer froze up, so that's not good.

Any ideas?

>>56311762
I just tried manually CTRL+ALTing to tty2, starting x, and running the game. it works when I switch, but that's running GNOME also twice, so that feels extremely wasteful.

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I'm running WindowMaker Live in a VM [thinkpad is in the mail] because I want a NeXT-like workspace and I'm too new to GNU/Linux to build one from scratch. How come when I save a file to my desktop, it doesn't actually appear on the desktop? It's in the 'Desktop' folder in my file manager, but I can't actually see it on the desktop itself, I don't get it. Is it supposed to be like that?

How current is debian sid? What kernel is it on right now?

What is the apt version of the command apt-get dist-upgrade? apt upgrade?

>>56312000
>How current is debian sid?
Current enough :^)
>What kernel is it on right now?
https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-amd64
>What is the apt version of the command apt-get dist-upgrade? apt upgrade?
Try man apt... it's full-upgrade, but dist-upgrade still works for legacy reasons.

also nice trips

>>56311762
One thing I like to do to deal with these misbehaving programs is to lock them inside a Virtual Desktop. Set the Virtual Desktop for the program in winecfg to whatever resolution the game plays at, then use a shell script to start the game. The shell script will invoke xrandr to change the resolution of your monitor to match the virtual desktop. This will give you a borderless "fullscreen" window that is reasonably well behaved. After that, it'll start the application, and after application terminates, you want the script to restore your screen resolution.

An example of this:

cd "$FOLDERPATH"

xrandr --output DP-1 --mode 1920x1080

wine RA2.exe

xrandr --output DP-1 --auto

where FOLDERPATH is a variable I set pointing at the game folder.

>>56311733
I mean I like cmus, but often times I just like sitting there scrolling through my library figuring out what I want to listen to.

And a lot of albums I forget the name, I just go by visuals. I have nothing against anybdoy using something I don't, I just find this to be a better solution for me.

My only real issue is fonts are kinda fucked but otherwise everything works pretty well.

>>56311361
>literally from that same page:
>"To force Steam to use only your system libraries, run it with..."
come on anon

im loving compton except for the fact that i sometimes get screen tearing

it happens pretty much randomly when im scrolling down and sometimes stops, there is no screen tearing while watching videos

i am using compton with openbox + kde, here is my config:
http://pastebin.com/jhcuJg3x

also i would like to know how to make windows other than my terminal transparent

if anyone could help that would be great

>>56312379
So, what did you actually try? Did you try deadbeef? Did you try ncmpcppccppcccp with mpd? Did you try moc? Did you try quod libet? Did you try gmusicbrowser? I don't think you tried enough before giving up. All of those programs are free and thanks to package managers it takes literally seconds to install or remove them. Trying all of them still takes less time than making some windows music player work properly in wine and hating on things here.

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>>56312192
Oh my fucking god anon, you're a wizard.

Thank you so much.

>>56312440
>that bloated config
why people do this
just put the option if you need to change from defaults

>>56312464
Glad it helped you, wasn't sure it was gonna work since every application might need something slightly different.

new thread when

>>56312593
when the rest of us pull our slopping dicks out of your mums butthole m8

>>56312459
The anon calling others shit wasn't me btw, just some faggot.

I don't believe a lot of the music players floating around are bad, but none of them have tickled my fancy. I'm not a huge fan of terminal music players (I use CMUS when I'm in productivity mode though.) The only ones on your suggestions I haven't given a serious good try of was deadbeef, but hey I'm open so I'll give it another shot.

But really, it works pretty well in wine. Only problem I was having was because wine and compiz don't like to play nice together.

I think they are all good players, don't get me wrong. But they don't quite hit the mark for me aesthetically in terms of interface, and it really just turns me off from them.

What's the argument for installing Arch with something like Arch Anywhere or Antergos?

>>56312685
>installing Arch
constanza.png

Is Sabayon any good?

>>56312738
I just want to try it out.

I'd rather get my opinions from first-hand experience, rather than ebin gee may-mays like your own.

>>56312751
no

>>56312685
Have you done it by hand before? Do it by hand. It's easy, and you learn a lot. You get a better understanding of what goes into your computer, so nothing ends up there that doesn't need to be there.

If you've done it before, Antergos is nice because it gives you a bunch of shit out of box. On my desktop, I have a broadcom card for wifi and it works out of box on atergos. I have to rely on AUR + wired connection otherwise.

I decided to go fresh arch though because of all the packages that were installed that i had NO Idea why they were there.

>>56312754
>arch
>anything but a meme
p1

>>56312685
Do you mean installing it with an installer vs. the regular process? The regular process will give you a better idea of how you configured things yourself along with the fact that regular arch users are more likely to help you because most of them have some kind of elitist attitude. The latter is mostly just to have a system with a DE or something up and running quickly if you're too lazy to install regular arch but enjoy some of the benefits of it.

I use antergos because I don't give enough of a fuck to regular install arch again, but if you want to try arch, you're probably better off starting with arch since it will give you an idea of what using it is like since there is a lot of wiki reading and manual configuration of things, even with antergos.

>>56312802
why are you player 1?

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Okay please help me, when I start my xfce session it only shows the cursor and a black background

Seems I corrupted my systemd bootloader by restarting at an awkward time and I can only boot into windows now. What would be the easiest way to fix this?