/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

i finally got sick of windows and am in the process of switching to arch. dual booting for now. used lxde a bit; now i'm really enjoying i3.

any tips?

>>56287226
Continue to have fun

>>56287226
Try bspwm.

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Is pic related how one should progress through linux distros to eventually become a unix god?

>>56287247
>progress through linux distros
Stop thinking there is a distro hierarchy

>>56287239
Any specific reason?

>>56287247
You mean thumbnail related?

And no, distros don't teach you anything. Sticking to the terminal does.

>>56287196
It doesn't look like an ass to me.

>>56287268
I'm reading TLCL and experimenting with Xubuntu.
Am I on the way to become a unix god?

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just installed arch and i3 on my thinkpad. what do i do now? how do i into customizing?

>>56287247
>unix god?

no
to become a "unix god" learn about standard unix tools, not fucking distro hopping

to learn about linux, read the source code

>>56287196
I like how it's spelling the german for asslinux

>>56287292
First off, GNU isn't Unix nor is Linux. There's a original Unix which is now trademarked by Apple so the only "true" Unix today is OS X (which again is basically just a broken BSD). On the other hand, when people talk about Unix they ususally mean unix-like systems and the way of doing things like "everything is a file", piping things, the original philosophy, etc.

And Yes. Next step is shell scripting. There are some good resources at OPs copypasta link and the threads website.

Why is Linux so fucking awful?

I'm a first time user using raspbian. Why do all the most simple, mundane tasks require so many fucking steps just to complete? I read somewhere on stack exchange that people enjoy nano while it makes me want to literally kill myself. Why, in terminal commands, are directories case fucking sensitive?? It's 2016, no self respecting OS should be that autistic about directories. And for the love of god why do you have to chmod a simple fucking script just to execute it? Windows figured out how to implement batch scripts in the fucking 90s. Are you really telling me I have to write the entire file over again every time I want to test it? Kys. Why do I have to open a text file on my desktop with fucking SUDO if I want to be able to save it? Garbage. Why is the default keyboard layout set to the UK? Garbage. Why didn't it update when I set the time zone? Because Linux is garbage, that's why. And I know what you'll say, "these are just a raspbian/debian specific bugs. My preferred version of Linux much superior" go Fuck yourself. There are some things that should just fucking work, no matter the flavor.

Let me put it like this, I now understand why Apple charges so much for OSX. It's because Apple had to implement so many basic fucking features into Linux to make it even remotely usable.

>>56287341
>Posting pasta
>Being a Macfaggot
Time to kill yourself, homo

>>56287341
stupid bait
>>56287361
stupid fish

>>56287341
But Apple charges more for their proprietary port cables then they do for their OS.

>>56287296
read the wiki

>>56287341
>case insensitive filenames
that shit is retarded
>have to change permissions of script to run it
waah I have to type literally 1 command
>need sudo for desktop
never heard of this
>default keyboard is uk
you fucked up somewhere

you are literally retarded and should not be allowed to touch a computer again

>>56287428
/thread

@56287341
Go back >>>/g/LGBT

>>56287462
>@
fuck off

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/bb/
I installed this and it works without music
I tried running it in the virtual console (ctrl+alt+f2) and it works when I enable audio, but no audio plays

What's the best distro?

>>56287638
The one you made yourself

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>>56287296
i think we're in the same place. everything is in ~/.config
i need to fix the ctrl+# bindings in ff

How does Void compare to Arch? Right now I'm dual booting Arch and windows but I'm getting ready to get rid of windows since I never use it

Void seems about perfect for what I want, are there any significant drawbacks?

>>56287247
>progress through linux distros
I have bad news for you

>>56287754
>Lack of packages
>Not as good / lack of user documentation (vs. eg, arch)
>Implicit hipsterness

xbps is a bit clunky imo too but thats just like my opinion man

>>56287754
It's a great distro. Surely it will replace Arch in the future.

>>56287754
- free as in freedom (but with easy access to nonfree software)
- less bloat
- better security (libressl)
- doesn't force systemd on you (uses runit by default)
- superior package manager (can build just like portage on Gentoo)

>>56288018
Define 'better' or are you just regurgitating what you read on the internet

>>56288038
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed

>>56288056
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreSSL#Security_and_vulnerabilities

>>56287754
Void is a piece of shit with no packages. I'd rather use BSD instead and I hate BSD

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>>56288018
Why is /g/ filled with the new kind of hipsters?
>Wake up in the morning
>Go back to the terminal you left open last night for increased uptime and powerlevel

>It's Void Linux with no Xorg

>Runit instead of Systemd
>LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL
>Clang instead of GCC
>Musl instead of glibc or
>Uclibc instead of libc
>Busybox instead of coreutils
>ZSH instead of bash
>rEFIt instead of grub
>Patrician ed instead of nano
>Screeny instead of screenfetch
>Wicd instead of Network Manager
>Organic water instead of tap water


>Compile herbslutwm and install vivaldi
>Go to 4chan, browse /soc/

>Manages to chat with a "fem"anon
>"What do you do in leisure?"
>My choices of entertainment are somewhat recherché
>"Tell me more"
>Euphoric.gif
>Eat no proteins, only dead, organic vegetables
>I prefer Ballad to what you call "mainstream songs"
>I don't like smokers, I prefer vaping, guilty charged
>I own a Penny-farthing vélocipède for transportation
>femanon freaks out and stops responding

>>>/g/
>Fuck systemd botnet
>Fuck bash, noob
>Fuck GNU
>lol are you still using gcc in $currentyear?
>I personally use BSD for my primary operating system
>Muh Unix
>Muh philosophy


ISHYGDDT

>>56287247
Linux distros are like dogs - pick the one you like.

>>56288194
I don't think void fits into this category. Just because it's sort of new doesn't mean ist made for special snowflakes. Void tries to make things better and it does a good job.

>>56288218
>Void tries to make things better
Being a half assed garbage hippie distro is not making things better

>>56288231
Well, the amount of high quality arguments in your post can't be denied, right?

>>56288245
Surely your vague argument made my job easier

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No one uses void, those that pretend to use it are hipsters. Plain and simple

>>56288218
>I don't think void fits into this category
>>56288278
>"It's Void Linux with no Xorg"

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Installed KDE Neon on this shitbox a while back.

I honestly didn't expect it to run as smooth as this. I'm pleasantly surprised. First time with KDE too, and I gotta say, it's quite nice.

>>56288367
>Virtualbox
KDE doesn't like virtualbox in my system

I've been running Kubuntu as my first distro for a while and I'm getting really tired of how unstable it is.
I have considered switching to Neon since I first heard of it, is there anything in particular I should keep in mind / anything I would miss?

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does this font rendering in firefox look ok?

I installed infinality, but feel like it's not as sharp as it could be

>>56288389
I couldn't get it installed on a Debian VM for some reason, which is why I'm trying Neon now.

>>56288413
It's basically Ubuntu LTS with shiny, shiny KDE on top, so at least it'll feel familiar. I haven't had any problems so far.

Two things to note though, are that: For one, Discover is slow and runs like ass, at least in my shitty little VM. And two, the base install is surprisingly minimal. It doesn't come with many things at all, so it won't be as easy to use as your usual *buntu flavors.

>>56288367
That's cool. I'm running kubuntu with backports but I'm thinking of adding the neon repos. How stable has kde been for you?

>>56288509
Looks fine to me. Change some of the settings if you're not happy with it.

>>56287196
>3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.
Don't do that, you won't be able to play games.

>>56288829
Works on my machine

>>56288842
????

>>56288864
Many games run on Linux

>>56288740
Same guy here on my main machine

I really can't comment on overall stability. I've been running the VM for just about a day total.
If it counts for anything though, I've heard several people say it's a lot more stable than KUbuntu and that things don't crash as often.

>>56288871
Not the good ones, except dota 2 and cs go.

>>56288879
Which games are good is subjective

>>56288879
Dwarf fortress runs on linux.
[spoiler]Your game could run on linux if you actually worked on it instead of being a lazy piece of shit.[/spoiler]
Crawl runs on linux.
Plenty of games run on wine.

Is there any way to enable realtime spell checking accross all programs? For example I would like to have my spelling checked automatically as I'm typing in Anki. aspell is installed but it does not seem to do anything in graphical programs.

I'm using Arch if that makes any difference.

>>56289863
>I'm using Arch if that makes any difference.
Why would it?

>>56289892
Package availability in the arch repos?

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>>56287226
>>56287239
>i3 and bspwm
Now stop being a baby and use dwm: the gentoo of window managers. Literally edit a C file and recompile to modify settings. The statusbar has to be generated via a shell script (typically in xinitrc). And the whole thing is <2000 lines of C code.

I'm running Firefox with a handful of tabs, Emacs with a few files, VLC playing a video, and my memory usage is at 800MB/1.5GB.

Someone has the problem that the distro get boring after a few months? At what distro you're stuck?

>>56289954
No

>>56289940
I have 16 GB of RAM tho

How do I install my drivers on KDE neon? They distro lacks a software manager thingy both Mint and Ubuntu had.

This is a disaster. I don't wanna go back to using Cinnamon or oh god. Unity.

>>56290061
I fucked up the formatting originally. Redo.

>>56289954
Gonna assume you're not fluent in English and meant this:
>Does anyone else have the problem that the distro gets boring after a few months? What distro are you stuck on?

I have that feeling, yes. Once I get settled in and use a distro for long enough, I get curious about how other distros work or do things differently. Trying out multiple distros is great for learning and to be able to better compare them for yourself. I don't think there's any "One Distro To Rule Them All" (because everyone has different preferences and needs) but I've found a happy place in Debian for myself. It's easy install, minimal enough for me, stable, and well supported.

trying to resolve my apache problems

http://example.com goes to the default apache page
https://example.com redirects me to https://example.com/mail
I can't find any mention of it in the config files
I've only installed iredmail and owncloud

>>56289940
>have to edit C code
>have to recompile it every time to change settings
that's neat and all but I'm not a programmer
i3 just werks enough for me

>>56287247
install gentoo

>>56290014
So KDE Neon is like Kubuntu, but not affiliated with Ubuntu and more cutting edge? Sounds... unstable.

I haven't tried it, but my search-fu says that the "Software Manager" for KDE Neon is called "Discover." Good luck, friend.

>>56290145
here's my default-ssl.conf file

<IfModule mod_ssl.c>
    <VirtualHost _default_:443>
        ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost
        DocumentRoot /var/www/html
        ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log
        CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined
        SSLEngine on
SSLCipherSuite 2long
SSLHonorCipherOrder on
        SSLCertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/iRedMail.crt
        SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/private/iRedMail.key
        
        <FilesMatch "\.(cgi|shtml|phtml|php)$">
                SSLOptions +StdEnvVars
        </FilesMatch>
        
        <Directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin>
                SSLOptions +StdEnvVars
        </Directory>

        BrowserMatch "MSIE [2-6]" \
                nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown \
                downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0
        BrowserMatch "MSIE [17-9]" ssl-unclean-shutdown

Alias /iredadmin/static "/opt/www/iredadmin/static/"
WSGIScriptAlias /iredadmin "/opt/www/iredadmin/iredadmin.py/"
Alias /awstats/icon "/usr/share/awstats/icon/"
Alias /awstatsicon "/usr/share/awstats/icon/"
ScriptAlias /awstats "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/"
    </VirtualHost>
</IfModule>

>>56289940
thanks for the rec; trying it out now

How do I get out of blank openbox back into terminal on Arch Linux?

>>56290457
Nvm I found out, sorry for noob question

>Linux Arsch

Topkeklel

>>56290485
No worries man, we are friendly here.

Arschlinux - A complicated, bloated Poo distribution

Anyone have any idea why .xinitrc AND .xprofile wouldn't run on startup/login? I'm on Debian Sid, using LightDM with auto-login enabled.

>>56290756
>using LightDM
here's your answer

>>56290756
>using LightDM
Answered it yourself kid.

>>56290772
Get your clowns face out of this thread faggot.

>>56290784
Learn to filter the undesirable tripfags son.

>>56290772
dump trip poster

>>56290769
>>56290772
It's the default display manager for Debian, and I know it was loading my .xprofile on a different machine. Why (more specifically) doesn't LightDM read either xinitrc or xprofile? Is there a different file that it uses?

What alternative should I use? No one recommend SLiM because I tried it and it was absolute shit.

>>56290865
startx?

can i make compton show previews on the alt tab list?

>>56290865
I just use startx and getty for auto login.

.bashrc or .zshrc

[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx

/etc/systemd/system/[email protected]/override.conf

[Service]
Type=simple
ExecStart=
ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty --autologin wut --noclear %I 38400 linux

>>56290865

You're an idiot. xinit is only sourced by the startx command. Had you spent 2 minutes researching you'd have found that out and also which files LightDM sources at startup.

>>56290930

Compton is a compositor. It is in no way influencing your "alt tab list" (whatever that is).

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>>56287196
Does anyone else have issues with serverauthority access shit?

Sometimes when I switch to a different XWMCONFIG, I'll get into the new WM, but then when I try to go back to a different WM, it locks me out and I can't do shit but restart my PC.

It forces me to have to log in as root, delete all xauthority files from hidden items in /home/ before I can reuse the shit.

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>>56290982
hmm, in order to use it, i have to disable xfce compositor and i have no alt tab preview in that case. fug.

>>56289940
xmonad masterrace

>>56290955
Nobody cares.

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Have any of you guys used the specialized distros like CAELinux, AVLinux, etc.?

How was it?

>>56291077
rude

>>56291082
No and why would I?

>>56290955
>>>/twitter/

>>56291121
>>56291077
Don't shit on the tripfag when he's actually being helpful. Save it for when he's being retarded.

>>56291164
>>>/reddit/

>>56291172
>>>/trash/

>>56291164
If you like identity circlejerking, I guess Reddit is more your cup of tea.

>>56291204
>shitting on /trash/
hownew.ru

and this is why nobody likes tripfags
just check the bullshit posts above

I am -> >>56290865
>>56290911
>>56290955
>>56290969
Yeah, I am pretty retarded. In my defense, the exact order/process in which Linux starts up is complex and inconsistent, it seems. I've done much searching for info in the last 30 minutes and none of it was super conclusive. Things were telling me that .xprofile was sourced by LightDM, which it was not in my case.

Anyway, I'm doing more reading to hopefully be less retarded, and I'm using startx now. Thanks.

>>56291164
My 2 cents: Sure, he's being helpful, but he's also using a tripcode for NO GOOD REASON. What purpose does his identity serve, other than to bolster his own ego and piss people off? This site is anonymous, and anyone using a tripcode is fully aware that they're going to be inevitably hated and shit on wherever they go and whatever they do. This discussion we're having only serves to boost his ego (and bring us off-topic), as well. So honestly, fuck 'em.

Stupid tripcode niggers.

>>56291244
>tripfag makes post
>20 posts arguing about tripcodes
>SEE THIS IS WHY I HATE TRIPFAGS

?

>>56291262
Can't fix stupid.

>>56287247
I started with debian in 2004 and now I use fedora.

Why? More updated packages, bleeding edge technology like wayland and selinux. Although sid can be "bleeding edge" it starts to slow down a bit whenever they're getting close to a new stable release.

>>56291262
Well it's not like that he isn't aware that people hate tripfags, but he doesn't care and posts anyway.

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When I drag a link out of Chrome onto Desktop, every link is named weird. Every name starts with "Link to ...".

WTF? How do I stop it from doing that? I've used Win & OSX and they both name links without "Link to" prefix.

HALP PLOX

Pic related.

If hiroshimoot didn't want people to use tripfag names, he wouldnt have invented them way back when he created 4chan in slummy highrise in tokyo.

checkmate

>>56291262
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality

>>56291326
>Can't fix stupid.
Except that specifically YOU can fix it. But you won't kill your shit identity. Any reasons why you use a tripcode? Other than to make yourself feel cool and detract threads?

>>56291383
Tripcodes were made to proof identity for a single thread when identity matters.

>>56291402
Any reason you feel the need to shitpost because I use a tripcode?
Only you can fix it.

>>56287196
I have manjaro now,
I don't like it I want to change.

How do I install windows 7?
and how do I install another distro i.e. Ubunto?
not sure which one I'll pick yet but I how do I do it, I tried booting into a flash drive with a ready iso but I couldn't open bios/it didn't show up in the boot

>>56291429
Even if I never mentioned you, others are guaranteed to. You're the catalyst. You can't take the effect and make it the cause, dickweed.

>>56291429
Yeah right, shitposting is bad. Say hello to tripfags, the more we get, the more this stupit anonymous culture called 4chan will die.
</sarcasm>

Reminder: Filtering and not shitposting is bending over for the reddit dick.

>>56291451
For windows 7 you have to install ms-sys and then ms-sys -7 /dev/sdb (or whatever your flash drive is) and format the drive as NTFS and copy all the files from the iso straight to the ntfs parttition. That requires mounting both the iso and usb and copying the files with cp -R.

But windows 7 is shit.

>>56291479
Reddit is a great website.
Of much more value to the world than 4chan.

>>56291479
>m-muh sekrit club
4chan is already dead, we had like 10 exodus

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>>56291495

>>56291429
Also thanks for giving NO REASONS for why you use a tripcode! You have no argument against the fact that your tripcode is unnecessary and harmful to thread-topic-discussion-relevance. You are a troll.

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>>56291489
well I have 3 options
"back" to win 7 (this pc was 8)
move to ubunto
dual boot both

what about moving straight to ubunto? what should I do?
also did I fuck up my partitions? pic related

>>56291525
He's also a bully.

>>56291525
Its not up for debate, I don't need a reason to use a tripcode.

Nothing you do or say will dissuade me from doing so and you should own up to your own shitposting instead of blaming other people.

>>56291534
To install Ubuntu, get the iso, then plug in your usb drive. It's probably /dev/sdb, so, sudo dd if=ubuntuiso.iso of=/dev/sdb. Then boot from that usb drive and install. Choose "use whole disk".

Your partitioning is fine but that windows 7 partition is useless as it's so small.

>>56291557
>Nothing you do or say will dissuade me from doing so and you should own up

how about stealing your tripcode and getting the use of it banned/filtred site wide

>>56291574
Its just a tripcode, I would probably find it flattering and then just change it.

Linux noob here, is it too difficult to create my own DE?

>>56291598
Depends what you mean by that.
Cobbling together your own environment with existing tools and maybe some scripts?
Doable, easily
Making your own from scratch? out of your league

>>56291534
>ubunto
Guy, it's called Ubuntu. With a u at the end.
>what about moving straight to ubonto
Yeah, just go to their site and find the installer.
>did I fuck up my partitions?
No, but the Windows 7 one is definitely too small for any real use. I'd just backup any important files that you care about and then completely wipe all your partitions.

If you do plan on dual-booting, then you need a partition big enough for Windows 7 (and all the programs/files that get installed to it over time), and it's generally recommended that you install Windows 7 first because it will overwrite Linux bootloaders.

>>56291557
>I have no reason to use a tripcode.
>I am fully aware that it brings hate in my direction, and detracts threads.
Alright, I just wanted a fucking answer for once. Thanks and go hang yourself.

Also I like to suck MASSIVE MASSIVE dicks. Huge ones all in my rear and ear. Just FYI you stupid shitlord faggoty fags

>>56291713
>Alright, I just wanted a fucking answer for once

He already gave his answer.
He's "Flattered" by all the hub-bub he causes and is the core root of

>>56291713
I'm not of the opinion that it has any negative impact on threads whatsoever.

Irrational behavior is the norm on 4chan and tempers won't be calmed by one anonymous poster not posting certain things.

>>56291713
ok, so I can just follow the installer and wipe all the partitions and follow the instructions for partitioning (or a youtube video etc)
I decided, fuck win7, I have another computer with it anyways.

Would ubuntu run good on a meh laptop? (I know it doesn't really matter but I'm not sure I would use xfce on it)

Anyone here tried Paludis on Gentoo?
Is it any good?

>>56291814
Tried Paludis on Exherbo, I hated it.

>>56291833
Why

>>56291881
Maybe it was just because it was still very new, but I had to like write repo files by hand and shit while looking through some bullshit called arbor or something to find which repositories to add

where is the ubuntu installer? I can't find it on their site

>>56291881
Also fuck you I'm gay

I started getting these error messages upon boot recently. They're only happening when I'm running my laptop on battery (no messages when plugged in).

[   21.209289] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6
[   21.209363] ata2.00: waking up from sleep

I tried searching online and people say it's hardware related, but their errors aren't exactly like my message. Does anyone have a clue on how to troubleshoot this? I'd hate this to be a hardware (faulty hard drive) issue, since the laptop is fairly new. ;_;

>>56291937
What makes you think this is an error? It doesn't claim to be an error.

>>56291962
It's an exception, it must be an error

>>56291338
>selinux
>bleeding edge

or even better:
>selinux
>distro-specific

>>56291977
sometimes exceptions are good, like when you get excluded from penis inspection day at school

>>56291986
>later die of dick cancer

>>56291962

Because it's written in red and shown during the boot even with a quiet option. I used to get those with certain TLP settings too. But now I'm getting them even without TLP enabled.

>>56292004
This happened to my older brother.
He got a hot tip informing him of the next penis inspection day, so he bought a penis prostetic dildo from the local in-out-in-out store and wore it to school the follow week.

The inspector must have just thought my brother was embarassed of his penis size, so he didn't call him out on it.

Well anyways, a month passes and my brother is found dead in his bedroom with his dick rotted off from dick cancer.

long story short, don't ever miss penis inspection day kids.

I'm trying to add a physical disk to an existing virtual machine in VMplayer 12. I get the message "Unable to find any local disks. You must be running as root to configure a physical disk"

When I run it as root, my VM's don't appear. What is the proper way to get this disk assigned to a VM?

I'm using Arch Linux in a VM and I like how it is riced and configured now. Is there a way to install it on real metal or do I need to start from scratch?

>>56292180
Use the command line tools to add it.

>>56292254
Fuck off.

>>56292278
rude

>>56292296
>>>/reddit/ there is your hugbox

>>56292312
Reddit is a great website.
Of much more value to the world than 4chan.

>>56292254
>愛してるさわこ !BE/4wes0mE
Wow, 4wes0mE tripcode. I guess this was asked before, but how did you make it? Are you a hacker? Oh and what does 愛してるさわこ mean?

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>>56292338

>>56292345
It means he lives in a basement.

>>56292254
Mine is better.

>>56292454
6 characters, non case sensitive
Wow you must have spent a whole 5 minutes on that one.

>>56292496
>implying I'm wasting time generating them

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>>56292454
>>56292496
Even worse, 15.6 seconds on average rofl

>>56292523
I'm too paranoid to run that guys tripcode generator.

He seems like some sneaky jap hacker.

>>56287226
You fell for the /g/nu/Linux desktop meme

>>56292544
This is why I only run it on my non-mission critical desktop.

>>56292544
>not writing your own
It's like what, 10 lines python.
Also fuck off already.

>>56292211
Gotta start over buddy. You can back up your config files, though.

>>56292569
>>56292523

I'm curious, could this be done in a shell script?

>>56292574
>Gotta start over buddy.
Not really, he can give the VM software raw disk access then dd his install onto the real disk

>>56292600
I'm like 99% sure there is some autistic faggot making up questions to keep these threads alive.

>>56287638
Deb Jessie

>>56292614
Did you forget your meds, lad?

>>56292600
In VirtualBox there is a shared folder, can I use dd to create a iso to that folder? That's my current idea.

>>56292640
That could also work, but seems like an extra step when you could write directly to your chosen disk
https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk

If you go the raw disk route, you'll most likely need to install grub after the fact (assuming you're giving it a partition not an actual full disk)

>>56292614
What's your point? Do you prefer frog and speccy threads?

>>56292682
his point is attention

>>56292682
What do other threads have to do with it and why do I need to have an additional point beyond some faggot is making up questions?

>>56292728
can't you just create a /愛してるさわこ !BE/4wes0mE/ general? this is a linux thread. get your ass off the topic already and leave

>>56292779
His life has lost meaning without desktop threads.

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>>56292779
looks like anon is making this a thread about the trip, not the tripper himself.

That said, I'll throw some manure into the fire.

>>56292848
He looks pretty qt desu

What's the best package manager?

>>56292779
If you can't see the irony in getting assblasted about a tripcode in a thread that is arguably a collective shitpost, a systematic attempt to conform anonymous posting into a single users ideal, then you have no sense of humor.

Pretending to be offended the most doesn't work here and it never will.

>>56292614
Please leave.

>>56292900
The one I'm using.

>>56292900
portage

>>56292900
butfuc

>>56292900
apt

>>56292900
The filesystem, a la GoboLinux

>>56292963
why delete, git is comfy

git clone
make install
if something fails, it fails

KISS

>>56292923
>the irony in getting assblasted about a tripcode in a thread that is arguably a collective shitpost
>>56291747
>I'm not of the opinion that it has any negative impact on threads whatsoever.

You act like this is inevitable, like people get pissed off regardless and derail threads over nothing:
>Irrational behavior is the norm on 4chan and tempers won't be calmed by one anonymous poster not posting certain things.
Bull-fucking-shit. UNDENIABLY, there would've been significantly less shitposting if you were just anonymous. You already conceited that you have no reason to use a tripcode. You just enjoy pissing people off and/or feeding your ego.

>>56293158
It just doesn't work.

>>56287341
Get out of your comfort zone, you'll learn a lot, or at least won't feel annoyed any more. You just dont get the point why ppl love Linux.

Btw to execute shell command, just type sh path_to_file

>>56293066
Bigotry and stereotypes will exist even if I don't use a tripcode, it has absolutely no negative effect on this thread, your post isn't derailing this thread its actually sparking discussion about trip code use in general, if you are more interested in replying to these posts its only because other posts didn't catch your interest and were boring, which isn't a negative contribution regardless of your own feelings to the contrary.

Hey fa/g/its
I'm using manjaro and I want to move to ubuntu.
I have the iso downloaded already.
I'm trying to download unetbooting but it doesn't work.
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/unetbootin/

it says this when i try to sudo pacman -s that package
>error: failed to init transaction (unable to lock database) error: could not lock database: File exists, if you're sure a package manager is not already running, you can remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck

>>56293317
Did you remove /var/lib/pacman/db.lck or not?
lol

>>56293317
Just read the error message, it is literally spelling it out for you
Is there another instance of pacman running?
If there isn't, do

sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck

and try again

>>56293317
The error message literally tells you what to do.
If you're updating, then finish updating. If you aren't and just closed your computer while downloading updates or something, then sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck

>>56293361
I can't

>>56293317
I told you already. sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb. unetbootin is shit. Also that error literally told you how to fix it.

>>56293317
>unetbootin
average manjaro user

>>56293399
Why not, have some unhealthy affection for the file or something?

>>56293363
>>56293397
>>56293403
Thanks, I did that command.
>>56293419
It didn't let me, probably I closed the update manager

>>56293412
well this is my source https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
I'm moving form this manjaroshit though

>>56293297
>Bigotry and stereotypes will exist even if I don't use a tripcode
yeh
>it has absolutely no negative effect on this thread
Besides the derailing.
>your post isn't derailing this thread its actually sparking discussion ...
This is /fglt/, not the tripcode discussion thread. No matter how boring the thread is nor how interesting the tripcode discussion. Anyway, I mostly don't reply to a post because I don't know the answer, not because it's too boring/uninteresting.
>... which isn't a negative contribution regardless of your own feelings to the contrary.
I think most would say otherwise, you're just a massive shitlord who thinks your tripcode and arguments about it are good for the thread, because you find them "interesting."

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Ok, last question before I install ubuntu, you anons helped me a lot and thanks.

I can't remove that unallocated partition, I can't delete or format it.
What do?

>>56293559
That's not a partition, it's everything that isn't allocated as a disk. It's the empty room that you can form into a partition.

>>56293571
Isn't it weird that it's so small compared to the os related partitions? can I use it as harddrive space?
does it even matter if I install ubuntu now?

So, how does disc encryption work on Linux? What do I need to install? Does it even matter for a normal user? Pretty new to all this. I'm on Xubuntu.

>>56292941
kek nice bait

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>>56293602

>>56293623
Not really, apt is the dumbest package manager I used

I'm looking to dual boot a Linux distro with windows 8.1. I've used Ubuntu and its flavors in a VM before and its not my style I'm looking for customization any tips?

>>56293583
Well, having unused space is generally pointless.
You can use it as hard drive space, yes. Probably from the utility you were using to view partitions, even. You can just mount the partition at, say, /home/$USER/foo and you'll just be able to throw 3.75 gigs of files there.
I don't know if you can resize partitions with encryption and all, but try looking through some settings.

>>56293669
install gentoo

Some guy told me that I can turn Vim into a complete IDE, what are some good plugins for syntax checking and autocomple?

>>56293662
Beginner here, using Ubuntu since some months and I've had never problems with apt. Why is it dumb?

Can I remove Gnome and everything related to it without any problems? I don't think I have anything that needs it.

What command would I use?

>>56293691
I heard that you had to compile the kernel from scratch, is that true?

>>56293693
>Beginner here
stay with ubuntu, my man. APT may be dumb but the online resources for ubuntu make up for it

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>>56293693
possibly just some arch babby memeing, apt is fine

>>56293583
>Isn't it weird that it's so small compared to the os related partitions?
I mean.. almost 4gb isn't that small
>can I use it as harddrive space?
Yeah dog, you can expand a neighboring partition to use the unallocated space. By neighboring, I mean they have to be touching. So you should be able to safely expand/allocate your primary partition size into that unallocated space.. but only when the disk being resized (/dev/sda3) isn't mounted. So you can do it during the Ubuntu install process, because non of your partitions will be mounted.

>>56293716
Apt can't uninstall DE

>>56293669
SecureBoot might fuck you over, my man.
Make sure to reduce your Windows partition or just grab an external hard drive. Try running a live OS to make sure you can install a distro in the first place.
>>56293697
>What command would I use?
You're probably better off not doing it.

>>56293727
Not true. I switched from Unity to OpenBox without any problems.

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>>56293716
Do I need to send another debibabby to cuckshed?

>>56293741
That doesn't refute my claim

>>56293745
just because some newfriend is too new to use a program correctly doesnt mean that the progam is shit

>>56293740
Secure boot won't be a problem since it's a used x201 and I just did a fresh install.

>>56293745
>what is apt purge

>>56293764
Apt cannot uninstall gnome-core. Try it yourself or watch the video, debqueen

>>56293780
What are you implying? He used --purge flag

>>56293745
>>56293784
so what distro are you using? just curious.

>>56293784
It can uninstall gnome-core, you don't have it installed so it cannot remove something you don't have. Fucking moron.

>>56293757
I already told you that I removed Unity (with GNOME) and that I'm using OpenBox now without any problems. Please stop shitposting.

Also bump: >>56293693

>>56293810
Is that relevant?

>>56293688
I can't do anything to it now (all the options are greyed out)

>>56293719
How do I expand the neighboring partition?

>>56293740
That's a shame. I don't use any of the Gnome stuff.

>>56293799
>>56293780
purge removes configs. What you actually want is: autoremove, which removes dependencies. Why can't anyone here read apt's manpage?

>>56293815
>apt install gnome-core
gnome-core is installed
>apt autoremove --purge gnome-core
gnome-core is removed but nautilus, gnome-calculator, gnome-control center, gnome-contacts stay back

Yeah, no

New to Loonix,
do I need antiVirus software? If yes, which one?

>>56293844
Watch the fucking video

>>56293847
It's a shame you can't use a simple package manager.

>>56293848
Same as on Windows, Common Sense 2017

>>56293745
that picture is beyond retarded and i feel sorry for you for thinking it proves anything.. nautilus is a file manager that can be used outside of gnome. he's the retard who thinks it's gnome-core, while it's a separate package.

>>56293871
What?

LMAO let this sink in: APT is TOO DUMB to remove orphaned packages

>>56293847
>apt install gnome-core
>apt autoremove --purge gnome-core
lmao
Are you trying to be a retard?

>>56293878
Nautilus was not in the system before installing gnome-core

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How the fuck does this guy have XFCE and i3 at the same time in his screenfetch?

>>56293871
>apt
>simple package manager
lol

>>56293882
No anon, you are too dumb for apt.

>>56293847
Do we really have to bring this shit up every other thread?
Installing a meta-package manually installs all the packages in it, you can't autoremove them.

>>56293903
>being a moron

>>56293882
man apt

autoremove
autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically
installed to satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no
longer needed.
>>56293847
--purge
Use purge instead of remove for anything that would be removed. An
asterisk ("*") will be displayed next to packages which are
scheduled to be purged. remove --purge is equivalent to the purge
command. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Purge.

I hope this clears things up.

>>56293697
>>56293727
>>56293741
>>56293745
>>56293757
>>56293764
>>56293784
>>56293799
>>56293815
>>56293844
>>56293847
>>56293861
>>56293882
>>56293890
It is somewhat dumb, but you can use this to remove (or purge) a desktop environment, or any meta-package.

apt remove $(apt-cache depends gnome-core | cut -f 2 -d ':'  | tr '\n' ' ')

Discussed in a recent thread, this is because meta-packages mark all their dependencies as manually installed, so when you remove the meta-package, it literally just removes the meta-package itself and not the dependencies. The code snippet above lists all the meta-packages dependencies, and uninstalls them "manually." I don't know why it isn't built in to the apt command.

Can we shut up about this now.

>>56293918
Pretty glaring fucking flaw if you ask me.

Its a good argument against ever using apt.

>>56293923
He's still not going to get it.

>>56293896
no shit, it comes with gnome. just like any other DE, it installs a bunch of other packages to complete the desktop experience. you can't simply uninstall those packages by removing gnome. yes you have to remove them separately because that's what makes sense.

>>56293935
No, it's a flawed argument because he has no idea what he is doing.

>>56293908
kek, keep crying all you want from your cuckshed, debibabby.


DNF doesn't have this problem
Pacman doesn't have this problem
Zyper doesn't have this problem

>>56293935
>if you ask me.
No one did.

>>56293875
>common sense protects you from security flaws in your applications/system

>>56293948
>remove them separately because that's what makes sense.
Wow, so if I want KDE gone I have to hunt down thousands of those packages separately?

What a fucking joke

>>56293959
Apt doesn't have this problem.

>>56293900
>DE: XFCE
>WM: i3
That's how.

>>56293975
See >>56293847

>>56293969
dnf can uninstall huge packages without problems. More reasons to use Fedora.

>>56293975
this

guys stop forcing memes of stuff you don't understand

RTFM

>>56293968
A Virus scanner doesn't either

>>56293999
It's an apt only problem

>>56294000
>This is how denial looks like

>>56294005
It's a you problem, I don't experience this.

>>56294027
Go do it yourself

>>56293999
>more
There's not a single reason to use Fedora.
Debian is mature and stable, Arch is edge and simple, what is Fedora? Why does it exist?

>>56293999
The size of the package isn't the problem here at all

>>56294037
Because Debian package repo is a steaming pile of shit

And
>Stable
LMAO

>>56294034
Yes anon, I can use apt properly and it can do what you fail to do.

>>56293935
>>56293959
>one minor problem with an easy workaround is reason enough to avoid all distros that use apt
Bullshit. No one is flocking to Qt-based DEs just because GTK3 has a shit file picker.

>>56293975
>>56294000
Yes it does have the problem of not easily uninstalling meta-packages, unless you can refute what I said here >>56293928.

>>56293969
>>56293988
>>56294027
Fucking look here faggots, or use searching to easily find something like this -> >>56293928

>>56294037
>Why does it exist?
Red Hat needs some cucks for betatesting RHEL.

>>56294053
>wah wah I can't use apt correctly

>>56294051
You can't remove gnome properly, so no.

>>56294053
>>one minor problem
Not being able to remove orphaned packages is a MAJOR problem

Also, Qt file picker is worse. KDE fixes it with KDialog

alright, I'm really curious now
I'm gonna install debian on a VM to test apt

>>56294068
Apt is a dumb piece of shit, I'd rather not use it at all

>>56294077
see >>56293923

>>56294096
Ok, don't. You can stop crying now.

>>56294077
They are not orphaned packages and he actually told you how to remove them properly, even if it's cumbersome.

>>56294090
Reproduce this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NysoCN9RR_c

>>56294101
Both flags were used, no saving from nautilus

>>56294112
Who told anyone to install nautilus?

>>56294096
Install Gentoo my friend and you'll be able to use any program like a charm. Even difficult programs like apt and ls.

>>56294115
The faggot who installed gnome-core.

>>56294145
>difficult
Funny way of saying inefficient

>>56294001
No, but it might mend the consequences of it.
Seriously though, is really nobody using any anti-virus on their GNU/Linux system?

>>56294068
Doesn't really refute anything. How would you go about uninstalling gnome-gore without apt remove + apt-cache depends being parsed?

>>56293923
>>56294101
Fucking wrong. Apparently you don't know what meta-packages are or how they work. See here: >>56293928

>>56294115
>Who told anyone to install nautilus?
The gnome-core package installs Nautilus you cucktard

>>56294112
FINALLY a sane person who understands!

Think of a ""package manager"" that you use
>Install transmission
>libtorrent is installed

>remove transmission
>libtorrent is not removed

>YOU DIDN'T TELL TRANSMISSION TO REMOVE LIBTORRENT MUH -META PACKAGES

Fucking insufferable dubcucks GTFO

>>56294186
>The gnome-core package installs Nautilus
Then removing gnome-core should also remvoe nautilus, you dumb shit mouth breather

>>56294168
Viruses don't magically infiltrate your system, you get them by copying infected programs on it. Since Linux software usually comes from secure sources or gets compiled by yourself, viruses aren't a problem.
There are security risks, but a Virus scanner wouldn't help against them anyway.

Oh yeah.
>Fucking wrong. Apparently you don't know what meta-packages are or how they work. See here: >>56293928 (You)
should also directed at >>56294077 and now >>56294199 and even massive retardo >>56294220

See here: >>56293928 (You)
See here: >>56293928 (You)
See here: >>56293928 (You)

>all these people in this thread who don't understand how package managers work
/fglt/ is going downhill

>>56294240
Blame the Archbabbies. They need to shit on everything that isn't Arch.

>>56294240
>Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

>>56294278
Users who ask questions are expected to read the replies they get and not continue to ask the same shit over and over again.

>>56294234
>Quoting self this hard
kek

>apt remove $(apt-cache depends gnome-core | cut -f 2 -d ':' | tr '\n' ' ')

Ebin gymnastics, smart package managers don't need to be spoonfed:
#yum/dnf autoremove gnome
#zypper -u gnome
#pacman -Rns gnome

>>56294278
Well. There's a difference between not knowing something and asking - and not knowing something and spamming "IT DOESNT WORK, ITS SHIT, BTFO".

Ok... last thing anons

I used unetbooting to format my flash drive with ubuntu, at the end of the process it told me to restart and choose to boot to the flash drive
but it doesn't show up on the grubloader boot
what is wrong?

>>56294270
People shit on towlet bowls: such as debian

>>56294220
>gnome-core package
The what? There is no gnome-core package, there is only a gnome-core meta-package which isn't the same thing as a package.

>>56294303
apt-get autoremove <package>

Just saying. I know you'll just ignore it.

>>56294336
Follow the discussion a bit more.

>>56294336
It doesn't always remove things it's supposed to when you do that.

Apt is shit.

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What am I doing wrong?

What should I fix with no knowledge of Linux? I want to use Debian. I am installing on t420.

>>56294336
Honestly, just watch the video
#apt autoremove --purge gnome-core -y
DID NOT remove nautilus that gnome-core introduced but your next post will be "lol read the ancient manpage and spoonfeed apt"

>>56294312
>what is wrong?
unetbootin
we told you it's shit

>>56294356
>IT DOESNT WORK, ITS SHIT, BTFO

>>56294356
It does. Your expectations of what it should remove are wrong.

>>56294312
I found Rufus to eliminate any installation problems I had up to >>56294357
Where I am having problems installing the base system.

>>56294377
Yeah, it really is shit. No amount of butthurt defense will change that

>>56294357
>debian
found your problem

>>56294383
Maybe he expects unwanted dependency to be removed? Why is that so wrong?

>>56294374
What then
I thought installgentoo was a good wiki

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>can't remove packages
>lol you didn't specify each and every single dependancies
Debibabbies are literally like BSD cucks in denial

Pic related

>>56294410
Because he marked them as manually installed and expects them to be handled like orphaned packages.

I wish debian fags would just fuck off
worse, they keep shilling debian and newfags like >>56294357 just fall for it

>>56294336
>>56294356
>>56294383
>>56294410
Excuse me, allow me to interject. 'apt-get remove/purge/autoremove meta-package-name' doesn't work because meta-packages mark all their dependencies as manually installed. And by dependencies, I mean all the packages which the meta-package installs with it. When you remove, purge, or autoremove the meta-package, literally solely the meta-package is removed, and non of the dependencies are.

So by doing 'apt-get remove/purge/autoremove gnome-core' you aren't really removing anything. You need a stupid snippet like this:

apt remove $(apt-cache depends gnome-core | cut -f 2 -d ':'  | tr '\n' ' ')

which will list all the dependencies and uninstall them "manually," so to speak.

New thread: >>56294435

>>56294440
>Because he marked them as manually installed
I don't get it who installed gnome-contacts manually?

>>56294451 -> >>56294466

>>56294466
The faggot who installed gnome-core
Wait, I already said that earlier.

Hello fglt
I am looking for a distro to use on a Pentium 4 ,512 mb ram PC.So it needs to be very lightweight. will be using it for browsing web,organizing my music collection with beet (why I am installing Linux) and torrenting.What do you guys suggest ?

>>56294509
Something with openbox or lxde.

>>56294509
Distro doesn't matter, it's the DE you have to look out for.

>>56294199
>pacman

I've used xubuntu on a VM for a few months now and I'm really enjoying it, is it possible to install it and dual boot it with Windows, or should I try another distro?

>>56294509
Puppy Linux.

So, the main difference between distros are release schedules and package managers, right? It what ways is Pacman different from apt-get?

Also, is there any reason to use Antergos over an Arch installer?

>>56295445
Pacman is slightly better than apt. I still don't like it much though. dnf and portage are the best ones. I'd honestly rather use debian than arch if I had to choose. Antergos is garbage. If you can't install arch, just install something else.

>>56293745
>im a retard that doesn't understand the concept of a metapackage

>>56294432
Why hasn't your crippling autism caused you to kill yourself yet?