/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>copying from last thread

Anyone have recent experience with Fedora?
How buggy is it? How complete are the repos compaired to Debian? Is it easy to install non-free software? How good is the package manager?

>>56239015
Used korora for a bit. Honestly Fedora and Arch stability are both less than you expect. Fedora comes with additional freetard autism

If i buy raspberry pi 3 and put a linux on it, will all repos be available on it? like can it do apt-get for anything that i could do on a desktop computer, or will i be limited only to a tiny selection of applications because they have to have an arm version too?

>>56239277
You need to install a distro that supports ARM architecture.
Debian is probably your best bet.
You can then use all of that distro's software for ARM.

>>56239321
I know the distro must be ARM, but do the application must be arm as well?
For example let's say i can do apt-get install poop
on ordinary NONarm debian, can i do apt-get install poop on the PI as well? or will that only work if the poop developer specifically made poop for ARM as well?

>>56239348
The package needs to be available for ARM, yes.
On Debian, you'll still have a huge selection, since their main goal is to be the Universal Operating System, so porting stuff to all architectures is a high priority.

>>56238776
do you mean the window decoration or the LXQt themes for the panels?

>>56239364
I see. I basically want to make a web server, so i need to make sure that apache, php and mysql are available for the debian arm

>>56239385
>server
Yep. Debian is what you want.

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&arch=arm&searchon=names&keywords=apache
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&arch=arm&searchon=names&keywords=php
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&section=all&arch=arm&searchon=names&keywords=mysql

>>56239410
Perfect thanks. One more question, i don't want to run any GUI directly on the pi, but i want to be able to connect to the PI from windows via some remote desktop way (so in the windows i can actually interact with the pi via normal GUI)
is that possible?

>>56239015
Running Fedora 24 currently and I'm kinda happy with it, haven't encountered any major problems in roughly 2 months or so.

>>56239433
Having a GUI on your main system that controls the Pi is possible. You need to run a linux system with a GUI on your Windows computer (e.g. from a live CD, or in a virtual machine), connect that to your Pi, then chroot into it.

>>56239433
SSH

>>56239256
Yes. The window decorations and the appearance (of like tabs and buttons and stuff).

>>56239774
The window manager on the pic you posted is not openbox, its KWin. Install it and use kwin --replace. For the GTK styles LXQt currently lacks a menu to customizethe GTK styles I believe. For the Qt styling I am not sure, last version I tested was 0.9

>>56239823
Thanks, will do. The "About LXQt" window is Qt though, it changes when I change my Qt theme.

>>56239849
Yes, I think all of the LXQt applications are Qt, not only About.

Is Bunsenlabs Linux a good distro to get familiar with the Linux environment?

>>56239870
Yeah, my point was that the gtk theme isn't the problem.

>>56239901

Any distribution is good to get familiar with the "Linux environment". Using a shitty, niche distribution which adds a new wallpaper and bugs isn't a good idea.

Where do you idiots find those distributions? Do you search for "obscure distribution for me" on the internet?

>>56239901
Yes, if you want to get to know the original Linux feel, without any of the improvements its user interface got within the past 20 years.

Or if you want to run it on a toaster.

why are there so many [Ubuntu but with a different DE] distros?

apt-get install xfce

there, I made a Distro. Who wants to make the logo?

>>56240213
Because people found it worthwhile to create them.
Canonical found it worthwhile to link to them.
Other people liked them and are using them.

>>56240213
How will we have the year of the linux desktop if it doesn't just werk?

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Is there some web-based chat server that can be hosted locally to communicate between people on the same network?
Kinda like LAN IM.
But completely in side the web browser?

>>56239494
So basically no X will be running on pi and instead all of the X cpu load will be handled by the machine connecting to it?

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>>56239939
Get out of this thread, you meanie!
>>56239944
Ok.

>>56240360

raspchat maybe?

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>>56240424
It literally looks and works like the Blackbox WM, which was written in 1997.

>>56240213
>why are there so many [Ubuntu but with a different DE] distros?
Because they want to see what Xfce feels like before installing Ubuntu Xfce?

>>56240473
>raspchat
Yeah similar.
but I was thinking even more simple.
Basically I'm running HTTP server, just need the web-pages to make html-based chatting.
For things like "Dinners, ready."

Anyone used slimjet?

I just want a lightweight chromium-based browser for the rare times I need flash.

Or should I just use chromium?

>>56240543
Try both, see what you like

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I used several distros in the last few years, mostly on my old laptop : mostly Xubuntu, and more recently Manjaro which emancipated me.

To be honest, I know I've never used those OS to their full extent and potential. I know I've been a relentless beginner all the time.

Now I want to challenge myself. I want to level up. I want to be able to do things. I want to be done with the "i'm using it because it's cool to be able to sudo the shit out of my computer every once in a week". I want to become an accomplished Unix learner and user.

So tell me, what distro should I install and why?

I was seriously thinking ArchLinux.

Also, any "learn the hard way" method out there?

>>56240884
>Also, any "learn the hard way" method out there?
Install Arch from the wiki.

I'm trying to host this by running it with python HTTP.server module.
It runs the JS part but the PHP isn't running.
It doesn't create "_chat.txt" and no chat log is recorded.
Any idea?
http://www.techumber.com/2012/11/Simple-Chat-Engine-Using-HTML5-Server-Sent-Events-And-PHP.html

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Stallman and lincucks BTFO!

>>56240884
You should stay on the one you have and customize it to your needs.

Like Arch? Don't install it. Turn Manjaro into Arch, by pointing it to Arch's repositories and removing all Manjaro-specific stuff.
Or better yet, find a worthwhile project that interests you, and use Linux to work on that, instead of working on Linux.

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>>56241040
EBIC XDDDDD

How do I get iwlwifi/iwldvm based card to do 5GHz in AP mode? The AP mode works fine with hostapd at lower 2.4GHz channels, and the card works as a client at 5GHz (iw list lists those with (No IR)), but no dice so far on getting it to work as an AP at those higher channels

>>56238988
dont really like the xfce look and feel
What's your favorite WM or DE? or combination of both?

Most tiling WMs need a shitload of configuration to look and feel good in my experience

looking for something that doesn't feel as clunky.

>>56241170
Fluxbox,its the superior *box
All settings in plaintext.
If you want more flare, use it with compiz

>>56241076
Don't question gods true programmer, he's accomplished more than stallman ever did

>>56241205
Fuck off, this is not your autism acceptance thread

>install ubuntu
>laptop idles at 60 celsius

>install arch
>laptop idles at 45-50 like windows 10

I don't understand why.

>mom wants me to buy her a new notebook
>get her a nice mint thinkpad with debian
>tell her how to launch a browser from the terminal
>she thinks it's too hard and wants me to install windows
fucking causals ;_;

>>56241189
>>56241170
I still don't really understand what a display manager does.

using lightdm by default with debian, but it doesn't appear to support custom sessions. Which one would you guys recommend?

>>56241370
Install Mint and tell her it's windows.

>>56241383
Basically, a display manager, would be the level between your system and your user session.
Basically its a login screen, takes your password input, and if you have multiple DE/WM you can pick one dynamically depending on what you want to do.

>>56241370
fucking put the icon on the systray

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>Want to try Antergos in a VM
>They don't offer a 32 bit installer
>The last release with the 32 bit installer is 404'd on their website

U wot m8

>>56241489
32bit is irrelevant since 2000's

>>56241531
So how am I supposed to get it running in Virtualbox if it only detects a 32 bit CPU?

Install void linux you fucking pleb faggots

>>56241617
Git gud and fix your virtualbox setup

>>56241366
newer kernel

Is Chromium a botnet?

>>56241652
Yes.

I started using Seamonkey today. It's literally Icecat with no autism

>>56241370
>grandma tells me her computer is broken
>go over and expect it to be some random shit
>nope, legit broken
>offer to buy a new one for her
>order parts for low spec desktop
>tell her what it costs
>doesn't believe me that it's so cheap
>gives me much more money
>build pc
>install Linux Mint
>set up bookmark for her favorite knitting website
>tell her where to click to open the internet
>after a week, ask if she needs any more help
>nope, just werks
>tells me it looks a bit different than on her old computer, but that must be because it's a new one

>>56241635
Install Sourcemage Linux you fucking casual

>>56241721
How did you explain how she can update packages?

>>56241617
you turn on proper virtualization from the bios

>>56241635
>void
There's no use for void linux. Bloat of Linux distros

>>56241756
Mint pops up a box when there are updates ready.
I put a sticky note on the screen and wrote PASSWORD: HELLO on it in large letters.

>>56241721
>week latter
>grandma calls me and tells me call of duty runs like shit, it rand much better on her old computer
>have to admit to her i heavily cut corners on her computer and made it very low spec so i could pocket the rest of the money because i'm an asshole
>she cries into the phone because that was all of her money and she can't buy a better pc now
>don't care because i'm an asshole
>hang up

you are fucking cancer

>>56241975
Her old PC was a fucking Compaq Presario.

>>56242050
that is no excuse to steal from her

>>56241640
>>56241758
Thanks fambruhghinis, now I just need to figure out how to actually install Antergos

>>56241370
>tell her how to launch a browser from the terminal
wut ? Why not the start menu ?

>>56242060
do you think mr. robot uses a fucking start menu?

>>56240884
the hardway is gentoo or LFS

>>56239015
>>56239461
Same experience as this anon. Note on the repos, they are noticeably less complete than debian, but it usually isn't a problem

>>56242058
When you've mastered that, you can try something harder, like tying your own shoes.

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>>56242125
Huh, this didn't show up until I ran the non graphical installer

>>56242207
Scratch that, I just had to wait for it to show up. I have a feeling that Linux isn't for me

>>56242251
Why aren't you actually using a Live ISO? ViMs can be buggy

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What's the best way to learn how the Linux kernel works?

>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Beginners_Guide
>no beginners guide anymore

>>56242348
Books

>>56242348
Read a book.
Then write a driver.

>>56242348
Read the code.

>>56242361
Bad move

>>56242361
I applaud Arch for not catering to retards.
It's still retarded not to include an actual installer.

>>56240213
Because the [Ubuntu but with a different DE] is maintained and configured by a separate team. They have people dedicated to making each flavor of Ubuntu work well with your preferred DE. I've heard really good things about Ubuntu MATE.

On other distros, your preferred DE might not have as much support, and may not be as nice or usable out of the box, because it isn't the primary one that they showcase and focus on.

Is there any difference in performance between 32 bit and 64 bit aside from being able to utilize more RAM?

>>56241635
I just did

Are there any Linux distros that would be good for use with one of those convertible touch screen laptops/tablets?

I recently got one for free (it's an acer iconia w500p), and windows 7 kind of sucks on it since it's sort of low spec'd.

>>56242361
I never imagined it would be clearer and easier to install gentoo than arch. So much for the best documentation.

If linux is so good, why does windows have 90% market share?

>>56242361

The "new" guide is the beginner's guide. Go and compare the latest revision of the beginner's guide to the current guide. It's basically the same.

>>56242435

Why would someone bother with creating a buggy, incomplete abstraction layer which tries to satisfy everyone's needs?

>>56243124
Market share of what?

>>56243124
Because MS uses their dominance to make deals with hardware manufacturers ensuring that they will continue to sell PC's prepackaged with it. And 90% of the market doesn't even know you can change your OS and doesn't care. For them, Windows == the PC. Even if Windows sucks, they don't even realize it. They just think they're not good with computers.

Installed Debian a few days ago, liking it so far but I'm getting some mild crackling when I listen to music. I'm using Foobar installed with Wine. Fooled around with daemon.conf and it went from unlistenable to just some mild occasional crackling.

Here's what my daemon.conf looks like for pulse:

; daemonize = no
; fail = yes
; allow-module-loading = yes
; allow-exit = yes
; use-pid-file = yes
; system-instance = no
; local-server-type = user
; enable-shm = yes
; shm-size-bytes = 0 # setting this 0 will use the system-default, usually 64 MiB
; lock-memory = no
; cpu-limit = no

; high-priority = yes
; nice-level = -11

; realtime-scheduling = yes
; realtime-priority = 5

; exit-idle-time = 20
; scache-idle-time = 20

; dl-search-path = (depends on architecture)

; load-default-script-file = yes
; default-script-file = /etc/pulse/default.pa

; log-target = auto
; log-level = notice
; log-meta = no
; log-time = no
; log-backtrace = 0

# resample-method defaults to  speex-float-1 on most architectures,
# speex-fixed-1 on ARM
; resample-method = speex-float-1
; enable-remixing = yes
; enable-lfe-remixing = no

; flat-volumes = yes

; rlimit-fsize = -1
; rlimit-data = -1
; rlimit-stack = -1
; rlimit-core = -1
; rlimit-as = -1
; rlimit-rss = -1
; rlimit-nproc = -1
; rlimit-nofile = 256
; rlimit-memlock = -1
; rlimit-locks = -1
; rlimit-sigpending = -1
; rlimit-msgqueue = -1
; rlimit-nice = 31
; rlimit-rtprio = 9
; rlimit-rttime = 1000000

; default-sample-format = s16le
; default-sample-rate = 48000
; alternate-sample-rate = 48000
; default-sample-channels = 2
; default-channel-map = front-left,front-right

; default-fragments = 4
; default-fragment-size-msec = 5

; enable-deferred-volume = yes
; deferred-volume-safety-margin-usec = 8000
; deferred-volume-extra-delay-usec = 0

Card is a Xonar DG, do I need to change anything here?

>>56243131
No, they removed the beginner guide and redirected it to the main guide, so yeah you could say they are the same.

>>56243191
But window's doesn't suck, even people who know a lot about computers and tried linux went back to windows

>>56243202
PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=100 commandhere

>>56243158
Why should I as a laptop user bother setting up Wifi on the command line to get internet access for the installation, without any documentation (cause that requires internet access), when an automated installer could do it in <1s?

>>56243202
>foobar in wine
mfw I have no face

will arm linux run my .net c# applications?

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>>56243240
yes
but you need to kill yourself first

>>56243232
What's a comparable player to Foobar for linux?

>>56243269
But will it work completely, like with linq support and shit? can mono do that?

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Ok faggots.

Asus Eee PC 1001PX
Atom N450
1GB of RAM
25GB HDD I think

anyone has this? recommend it?
what distro does you gay ass nerds think should run best on it? (fuck you 'install gentoo' and 'install arch' retards, I want something for normal people)

>>56243329

Every other player which plays back music. Chances are what you want can be done in other music players too.
The very fact that you're so retarded to run something as simple as a music player though Wine means that you should stop being a pretentious try-hard and go back to Windows.

>>56243343

Yes, there's a distribution out there for every possible hardware combination and subjective need. That's why there are millions of distributions. There aren't general distributions which can be whatever you want them to be. No, you have to use those special, niche distributions because they have features which are totally exclusive to them.

>>56243214
windows truly does suck though. most everything is more inconvenient to do on windows than on other oses. the only reason anyone at all goes back to windows is because their software isn't supported on any other os. (photoshop/cad/gaymes)

>>56243343
Have it. It's a phone with the form factor of a small laptop, only you can't call people with it.
Install Lubuntu, or if you hate yourself, Debian LXDE.

>>56243359
probably not the best idea, but I'm really used to foobar

Deadbeef it is then.

>>56243329
mpd+cantata is my favourite.
deadbeef is fairly similar and has conversion capabilities.
Quodlibet, gmusicbrowser,clementine, guayadaque are fully featured.
There are loads though, some new ones I haven't tried.
Quite a few listed here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Audio_players
Use puddletag for organizing and tagging.

>>56243402

Deadbeef isn't remotely similar to Foobar. It doesn't even have library support. Do you research and try out things on your own or do you just believe everything you read on here?

>>56243398
In windows everything simply works.
For example when i was going from windows 8 to windows 10 i simply clicked onr "Upgrade" button and boom my pc was running windows 10

In linux doing this would be a suicide, almost every single time i did apt-get dist-upgrade the computer never even booted after that and i had to do a complete reinstall, the developers are at fault here because the are so fractured that their shit does not work together well, in windows everything is perfectly unified

>>56243446
Funny, that doesn't happen to me.

For research purposes

http://www.strawpoll.me/11069211

Okay-Debian keeps giving me invalid password after installation on Virtualbox, despite the password being key for key

>>56238887

Using an English keyboard, Steelseries 6vg whatever it is.

>>56243462
You should research how to spell.

>>56243493
what the fuck son, you should run the debian IN the virtualbox on windows and not the other way around

>>56243446
You're doing a great job, Pajeet.
Keep shilling like this, and I'm sure you'll be able to afford your very own toilet soon.

>>56243446
Hmm, I clicked on "Don't Upgrade" and boom my pc was running Windows 10 anyway.

>>56243503
>this is what passes for friendly in these parts

>>56243446
did you come to talk shit about linux in favor of windows here?

>>56243564
>this is what passes for friendly in these parts
I wasn't rude to you. Go to plebit if you want a hug, this is 4chan.

>>56239939
>Where do you idiots find those distributions? Do you search for "obscure distribution for me" on the internet?
Underrated quints, but sadly, if you weren't such a newfag, you'd know that Bunsen is the community followup of #!.

>>56243493

Your capslock is on.

>>56243606

>Bunsen is the community followup of #!.
And? Crunchbang was just Debian with Openbox and tint2 and a shitty Conky which displayed keyboard shortcuts. Bunsenlabs is one of those shitty niche distributions which I was talking about.

Serious people (read: people who actually use their operating system and aren't just installing it to post their screenfetch and screenshots) use "core" distributions. They go upstream and pick their distribution based on actually worthwhile differences and features which define a distribution.

Can we not use this picture again for OP? Reminds me of my mom getting run over by a run away trolley.

>>56243683
Only if you add Linus face on the surfer.

>>56243683
This. I've lost family to trolley accidents too. Please be considerate.

>>56243683
there are no brakes on the freedom train

>>56243683
serves her right for wasting a soul on a shitstain like you

>>56243523
That's what I'm doing.
>>56243611
Capslock isn't on.

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>>56243683

>>56243401
I'll try to lower the price the guy is asking, if possible I'll buy it.

what about peppermint os? is it good?

>>56243683
Do you need your safe space, faggot?

is ubuntu the easiest distro for home server?

>>56244285
be easy i mean simple to use, i want to use linux distro where things simply werk like in the windows server i am using now (but don't want it anymore because it is too bulky for a small home server)

more like ded gnu/linux thread amirite?
kek

>>56243446
>almost every single time i did apt-get dist-upgrade the computer never even booted after that and i had to do a complete reinstall
Sounds like you were the problem. You could've A) tried to figure out what kept breaking your system instead of repeatedly doing the same thing or B) tried a different distro, because some work better than others on certain hardware, or for certain people.

>>56243269

man hier

Anyone have any suggestions/resources on setting up your own system from scratch? I'm thinking of dwm as my window manager, so what are the bare essentials I would need besides that?

>>56244950
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/index.html

How can I make Firefox put the tabs in the title bar?

I set browser.tabs.drawintitlebar to true, but I still have this bullshit huge title bar taking up space and refusing to adhere to my desktop theme.

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what is the best software on linux to run windoze programs?

wine, vmware, virtualbox or something else?

thank you

Why is urxvt the most popular terminal?

How do I install this theme: >>56243442 but for MATE?

>>56245193
It's an arch linux meme.

>>56245019
Unfortunately the only way to easily remove the titlebar from Firefox afaik is by installing an add-on called: "Hide Caption Titlebar Plus"

It works alright, but it's a little rough around the edges and not super polished like "Classic Theme Restorer"

>>56245230
Here's the official page for that theme, just follow the steps on the page, I suppose: https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Arc-OSX-themes?content=175536

>>56245193
Mostly because of the daemon mode. You can open hundreds of terminal clients for one daemon. Then it's just comfy because you configure it in your Xresources and you can script everything (like matching colors to your wallpaper etc). Perl extensions can be useful (click on a url to open it in the browser and all that jazz).

>>56245290
go away newfag

Im looking for distro for 11.6 netbook with Pentium N3700, 4 GB Ram, 120 GB SSD. At the moment im thinking about Lubuntu.
Im goinig to use it only to watch movies, browse internet, and play games like Terraria etc. Nothing special.

>>56245334
I've been on 4chan since 2005, and using GNU/Linux since 2004.

>>56245361
Get a life virgin.

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The /home/<user> folder should only contain the folders (ie pics, docs, music etc) which again contain files?

And apps and programs position themselves independently on the system, ie you just install them and then they automatically go where they belong (which varies, but is outside of /home) ?

If I install some program from the command line, they'll automatically position themselves where they belong?
But what do I do when I have to download a program from a website, say I download a zipped folder, unpack it, go into the folder, run the set-up script using the terminal. At this point the folder for the program is still located where I downloaded it too, of course I can move it around, but wasn't the system supposed to place it automatically? How do I make it do that?

>>56245377
I'm not a virgin.

>>56245399
Sex with men doesn't count.

>>56245398
>But what do I do when I have to download a program from a website, say I download a zipped folder, unpack it, go into the folder, run the set-up script using the terminal. At this point the folder for the program is still located where I downloaded it too, of course I can move it around, but wasn't the system supposed to place it automatically? How do I make it do that?
You don't normally install software outside of your package manager. But if you do, it'll usually be via make install command, which usually places stuff under /usr/local.

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>>56244043
10/10

>>56244950
What do you mean by the bare essentials?
You can literally install Linux with nothing but the Kernel and a command line if you want.
I'm guessing you want a display server, networking, sound, mouse support as well.
I recommend a Debian netinstall with X and a window manager. It's about 2 GB.

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>>56245019
You could instead tell your window manager to remove window decorations for Firefox.

Pic related

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>>56245418
Okay, so say I want to install Pycharm IDE for instance. If I can do it with the package manager, then how do I find out what to apt-get install?

If I simply do as in pic related, the folder for pycharm stays where I unpacked the zipped file. I can still use Pycharm IDE just fine, but I cannot search it using the dash, or start it from the command line, plus it feels very ugly and disorganized having it there.

So how do I make Pycharm go where it should at this point (say I installed it to /home/<user>) and will this allow me to start it from the terminal, and search it using the dash?

>>56245529
>Okay, so say I want to install Pycharm IDE for instance. If I can do it with the package manager, then how do I find out what to apt-get install?
apt-cache search <something>
or apt search <something> or aptitude search <something>.
>fine, but I cannot search it using the dash,
Probably you have to add a .desktop file for it.
>start it from the command line
Put it in (or a symlink) to any directory listed in the $PATH variable.
>plus it feels very ugly and disorganized having it there
Well, you could search it in your repo, try to find a PPA.
That's one reason anyway why I'm using Archlinux - I can install obscure/proprietary stuff like that from AUR.

>>56245482
Yeah, I did mean the latter. I'm slowly piecing together all the things I need.

For example, when I first installed Debian minimal, I had to do a bunch of ridiculous text file editing and shit to get my internet up, so after some searching I found wicd-curses to make it easier. I'm currently learning dwm and it's pretty neato how it works. Is there like a resource for people who are weird wm-minimalists, or does everyone just figure it out over time with trial and error like I am now?

>go to first CS 2 lab
>literally just the TA telling us how to install PuTTY, FileZilla, and Cisco AnyConnect (VPN client)
>sudo pacman -S ssh openconnect
>done
>TA "if you have Ubuntu or Linux or whatever I'm sorry, I have no idea how that works"
Thanks Linux for being great guy.

>>56245857
What a shitty university.

>>56245896
ranked decently for CS though. At least they're forcing students to use Linux.

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>want to use vim
>can't because I always have to smash my keyboard because of my OCD
I hate my life

>>56245857

They're rushing to give CS students applicable skills to compete for the Tech based society we're heading in. Everything has an IP. Yes, even your dildo tracks your sexual preferences from intensity, length of session, and frequency of insertions per minute recorder to the nearest millisecond.

>>56245597
>apt-cache search <something>
>or apt search <something> or aptitude search <something>.
What if this doesn't find what I want, what if I have to install things which I cannot do through the package manager?
What should I do after having done the steps in >>56245529 ?

Note, Pycharm is not important here, I'm just using it as an example.

>>56245932
How does OCD cause you to smash keyboards? Didn't you mean Tourette's?

>>56245997
>Didn't you mean Tourette's?
No. Whenever I type (or more precisely when I use single keys like hjkl), my mind forces me to press more buttons on the keyboard will all of my fingers. It's very hard to describe though and what I wrote wasn't entirely correct but it's pretty much like that. It drives me insane.

>>56246049
Anyway, use the superior Emacs.

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If I install a new DE and uninstall the old one.... does that fuck anything up? Like will there be a bunch of orphaned packages or vestigal files shitting up my install?

>>56246123
Depends on the package manager and DE. Some of them share certain config files and overlap in some ways.

>>56245932
Escape. Vim is actually OCD pleasing. Everything makes sense when you think of [m]otion.

i for input mode
y for yank
v for visual selection
etc

Run vimtutor to get the basics-

>>56245979
Let's see.
To launch a program from terminal by typing the name, you have to put it or a link to it in one of the directories in a special variable $PATH, or change this variable.
To display this variable run e.g. echo $PATH. To add a directory to it, for instance /home/user/foo, add this to the file ~/.profile (create it if it doesn't exist):

export PATH=/home/user/foo:$PATH

Got that?

>>56246192
Do not use vim, it's a money laundering scheme under the disguise of charity.

>>56243493
>>56243611
>>56243523
>>56244030

Can ANYONE help me here?

I'm at wits end on dealing with this shit.

>>56246192
>Vim is actually OCD pleasing.
There are different types of OCD. See >>56246049

>>56243231
>man
>requires internet access
No faggot, you just want to be hand held, dont use shitty closed drivers

><1s
Your ideal setup is not what i consider an ideal setup,this is the purpose of arch....If copying text from a wiki on your phone to your cli, its too hard for you, you might want to reconsider what you actually want to receive from linux as a whole

>>56246299
>>56246049
You could hook your keys with a vimscript that doesn't accept more keystrokes than one for a specific delay.

>>56246211
Wait what the fuck are you talking about?

Nobody outside my house even notices if I use Vim or not. I certainly don't pay any money for it.

>>56242748
driver nightmare

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>>56246049
I'm >>56246332
Alternativly, just get good meds and get well soon.
I suggest these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citalopram

>>56246260
You messed up the spelling of your password twice. It has happened to me before. Try to guess the mispelling, if it doesn't work just reinstall.

>>56243446
>apt
thats your first problem

>>56246260
Are you trying to install Debian Testing with the Testing installer?
I did run into this same problem myself, on a bare metal install of Debian Testing.
I worked around it by installing Stable instead, then upgrading. The Testing installer isn't meant for use by end users.

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>>56241635
>void
>>56242746

Why is /g/ filled with the new kind of hipsters?
>Wake up in the morning
>Go back to the terminal you left open last night for increased uptime and powerlevel

>It's Void Linux with no Xorg

>Runit instead of Systemd
>LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL
>Clang instead of GCC
>Musl instead of glibc or
>Uclibc instead of libc
>Busybox instead of coreutils
>ZSH instead of bash
>rEFIt instead of grub
>Patrician ed instead of nano
>Screeny instead of screenfetch
>Wicd instead of Network Manager
>Organic water instead of tap water


>Compile herbslutwm and install vivaldi
>Go to 4chan, browse /soc/

>Manages to chat with a "fem"anon
>"What do you do in leisure?"
>My choices of entertainment are somewhat recherché
>"Tell me more"
>Euphoric.gif
>Eat no proteins, only dead, organic vegetables
>I prefer Ballad to what you call "mainstream songs"
>I don't like smokers, I prefer vaping, guilty charged
>I own a Penny-farthing vélocipède for transportation
>femanon freaks out and stops responding

>>>/g/
>Fuck systemd botnet
>Fuck bash, noob
>Fuck GNU
>lol are you still using gcc in $currentyear?
>I personally use BSD for my primary operating system
>Muh Unix
>Muh philosophy


ISHYGDDT

>>56246403
There is something fundamentally wrong with your post. A hipster tries to be retro for no good reason. Void is a relativly new distro.

>>56246328
man pages are fucking useless for wireless setup.

Even though I've done this before several times, figuring out exactly which tect files to create and what to write in them is a pain in the ass, but my point is:

IT IS USELESS. It is a task that has been automated, there is no need for customization, wireless simply needs to work. A script can write the necessary files, but Arch refuses to ship that script for no reason whatsoever.

>>56246428
>retro
>I personally use BSD for my primary operating system

>>56246446
Why haven't you written that script yet?

>>56246446
>reason
Because there is no upstream script, that covers any and all possible combinations of hardware and software for every architecture

If you're this butthurt open up a git repo and post your script, since you've done this several times, you shouldnt have a problem creating it.
Oh...
You're just a lazy fuck who cant read, and rather be passive aggressive instead of solving the "problem".

What's the best beginner distro?

>>56246508
Fedora. It just works. It's the only distro where steam works out of the box with no fiddling around.

>>56246530
>steam
eww

>>56246530
>pacuar -S steam steam-libs
>steam
done

>>56246530
Fedora is the only distro that can't play mp3 ootb, let alone steam without fiddling around

0/10

>>56246498
>wanting to avoid pointless work is "lazy".

Finally made the jump to Linux, and it's quite good, but I was shocked to find out that AMD discontinued the proprietary driver starting with Ubuntu 16.04. I'm considering bulding a new machine in the future and wondering if it would be smart to go Nvidia if I want to make Linux my main OS. Any thoughts on this or other advice that I should know about when building a Linux desktop machine?

>>56246332
>>56246378
Th-Thanks

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>>56246530
>steam
Go back where you came from.

>>56243446
>I have the same problem over and over again
>No one else has the problem
>huurrrr loonixx sucks
how did you make it this far?

>>56246508
There is no distro that will let you avoid changing your habits if you're used to Windows.

The default distro for beginners is Ubuntu, for a good reason. I'd recommend checking out Xubuntu too, it has a more traditional layout.

>>56246631
>deflecting
k.

If youre so versed with it, why is it a problem?
You dont have to use the distro, no one is forcing you too, hell make a fork of it and add your one lousy script and market it to your "audience" who lack basic computing skills

I have a livusb with what i consider my base install for the environment i use. If i fuck something up i just pop it in pop shit over and done.

It took me all of 2 minutes to do this

>>56246678
>AMD discontinued the proprietary driver starting with Ubuntu 16.04
AMDs drivers are unrelated to Ubuntu's release circle. Ubuntu deciding to not including those drivers does not mean that AMD did anything to them.

As for the future, no one knows yet, read about the current state of affairs when the time comes.

>>56246530
>It's the only distro where steam works out of the box with no fiddling around.
What about Debian, the distro Valve chose as a base for SteamOS?

https://wiki.debian.org/Steam I know it's not "out of the box" but I think entering 2 or 3 commands to install something isn't a big deal.

>>56246762
It's not a problem. I just don't want to spend my limited time on it. I don't want to fork Arch either. I'm not you. I'd rather spend those 2 minutes playing the guitar, or relaxing on 4chan.

>>56246954
>not a problem
Then why are you still bitching and making posts if you dont give a fuck about it?
Go use your limited time and pull that dildo out of your ass.
>limited time
>play guitar
>relax
Why are you not using those 2 minutes to be productive, and contribute to your well being?
>limted time
>removng windows for a laptop/desktop in favor of a linux distro
>>limited time
>not using only ncurses and cli you dont need to see media, cause loading media is a waste of your time
>>>limited time
>>posting on 4chan

You fail to understand you have to do anything to do something

>>56246954
Name a good reason why you think someone else should spend their limited time on solving your problem.

>>56247071
Because other people may enjoy doing it more than I do.

Whenever I install Arch or Gentoo and get to the step when you exit the chroot and unmount with umount, some of the directories are always busy. What's going on?

>>56247299
umount -R

>>56247299
You terminal is in the mount

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Does anyone of you dual-boot Windows 10 + Linux?

My linux is always freezing, due to lack of drivers (amd), and i thought of using windows but i want to disable all that privacy shit

So, how do i disable it?

What USE flags should I use for a OpenRC i3 gentoo installation?

>>56247761
USE ubuntu

>>56247751
During installation don't "Express Install", choose the option to configure and disable everything. When the installation is done, disable Cortana and install spybot anti-beacon.

>>56247777
Nais maymay

>>56247761
default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd

Use that profile and you won't need to set a bunch of useflags.

>>56247751
>So, how do i disable it?
Ask in the friendly windows thread.

>>56247751
Get the Linux from Linus Torvalds. Don't fall for fakes like Ubuntu or Arch.

>>56247761
If you're asking this then you haven't read enough yet.

>>56247791
GOD DAMN FAGGOT FUCK OFF FINALLY
NOBODY LIKES TO SEE YOUR TRIPFAGGING SHITFACE

>>56247791
I chose /amd64/13.0/desktop. I don't plan on using neither gnome, nor systemd. Should i just stop the

 emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world 

, and then run with /desktop/gnome without the systemd part?

>>56247826
>FUCK OFF FINALLY
I think you men FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>56247809
>Get the Linux from Linus Torvalds. Don't fall for fakes like Ubuntu or Arch.
?
what do you mean? donload the source avaliable on github and compile it?

?

>>56247850
You're right. Non native faggot here.

>>56247859
He's memeing...

>>56247882
why would anyone want to use a hacked together kernel instead of the real one?

>>56247829
Sure, gnome desktop profile prevents a lot of headaches later if you start using some gnome shit which sooner or later you probably will.

>>56247866
It's a stupid construct which makes no grammatical sense to anyone outside of USA.

>>56247915
filtered

>>56247931
ok

>>56247915
Will CTRL-Z leave installed packages though? Never really used emerge...

>>56247952
If its not doing an install phase it won't hurt anything.

>>56247962
Well, It's installing... Fuck. Well, whatever, thanks anyway!

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what do i look for in the log files, when my linux freezes?

>>56247962
delet system32

>>56247987
>DE/WM crashing
>X crashing
>Kernel crashing
>stuff crashing in general

>>56242435
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide

There's only this now.

It's too concise and leaves out too many details and warnings about certain problems tbqh.

Linux doesn't freeze.

>>56247987
dmesg/messages.log

>>56248018
well it does on my computer because there's a lot of conflicts with AMD drivers and Xubuntu 16.04 (the distro i have installed, but it doesn't matter)

>>56248018
I wish

>>56248039
Programs may freeze, but not the kernel.

>>56242435

Just use Architect

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Wow, manjaro looks nice.

>>56248090
No it doesn't.
>dem icons

>>56248072
Damn son, just follow the wiki.

>>56248090
bspwm spin looks even better

>>56248090

>2 clocks
>2 CPU monitors showing different info
>needs to be constantly reminded of the most basic keyboard shortcuts
>2 dates
>needs to be constantly reminded which distribution he's using
>needs to be constantly reminded of his username and hostname
>needs to be constantly reminded of his kernel version
>needs to be constantly reminded of his LAN IP

Also: no, Manjaro doesn't look nice. It's the desktop environment which looks "nice". Any distribution can look like that.

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>>56248124
couldnt find a pic in action

>>56248161
It's obviously a live iso welcome screen, retard.
>install manjaro-i3

>>56248072
It's not being developed anymore won't it go out of date eventually?

>>56248195
Do you think it looks different one it is installed?

>>56248195

Great, that means 88% of the other points are still standing (most likely even more because the Conky might still be there after installation).

>>56246260
>/g/ is NOT your personal tech support team or personal consumer review site.
READ THE STICKY NEWFAG

>>56248254
>I don't know, but luckily I know it

>>56248292

Post how it looks like once it's installed.

>Manjaro
>Unironically using something other than Ubuntu or Fedora in the current year
>Memeing about arch or arch based distros
The cancer needs to stop.

Should I add Neon ppa to Kubuntu 16.04 or is it not worth the potential problems?

>>56248382
Manjaro is not an archlinux based distro.

>>56238988

what the hell is that photo from? Is the corpse part of the original?

>>56248470
go home newfag

How do I set the homepage on firefox on Windows it's file:///D:/Other/homepage.html
I've tried file:///(squigly thing)/Downloads/homepage.html but it's not working

>>56248382
This

If you really want the AUR just use arch anywhere it's still arch with letting you choose how lightweight everything is

>first time on Ubuntu (or any linux distro desu)
>www.pornhub.com
>sudo apt get flash etc
>mozilla plugin needed for flash, wait.. there is a plugin to DOWNLOAD any flash vids?
>site:pornhub.com laura teen ggg
>???
>PROFIT


Linux is god

>>56248573
pornhub works fine without flash, what are you doing?

I'm going to buy HP Pro book 450 or 650 with dock station. Will it work with Debian with no problems?

>>56248523
Don't use ~, use /home/<your user name>instead.

>>56248600
fresh install. didn't load any videos until i got flash packages. in fact, once i used download plugin and saved some vids, i couldnt play them without downloading more packages for the Totem video player

>>56248622
Thanks a lot senpai

>>56248642
>Totem video player
install vlc

>>56248642
>oh videos are not working
>I know, I'll install flash
fucking hell anon

In elementary OS the terminal and file manager re-open to the area I closed out of last. I noticed that there is a tab system to those. Can I disable the dabs and set it to default to one location each time I open it?

>>56247705
So how do I close it /trying to learn basic commands/ here.

Also how come neither the arch nor gentoo wiki mention this happening, I followed it exactly and on two different machines.

>>56248726
cd /some/where/else

are you using that linux encryption option thing where drives are mounted upon login and unmounted on logout?

>>56248573
>flash
>current year
What is wrong with you?

>>56248726
Read a book nigga, there's a free one in the OP.

>you don't need a DM they said
>just use startx they said
What if CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+Z and rm -rf ~?

>>56238988
I know that I can delete my bash history from home. But how do I delete the sudo, admin I don't know history?Where's the archive?

Opinions on Fedora MATE?

>>56249304
Bash reads the defined history file mentioned in your ~/.bashrc. If you're using sudo, it's still the same history file.
>delete
Just don't creaone one in the first place.
export HISTFILE='/dev/null'

>>56249355
create one*

>>56249304
/root/.bash_history

>>56248039
I bet you installed catalyst. The free amd driver works very well, better than nvidia proprietary for non-gaming uses. It works well for most games, too. But some have issues due to opengl versions.

Trying to pass through a NIC to my VM.
When I add it to my script

-device vfio-pci,host=04:00.0

It tells me group 10 is not available, even though it's in

/dev/vfio

I'm not using it since there's only 1 NIC listen in ifconfig besides loopback

What is the meme os these days? About to reinstall my laptop, not sure what I should install

Switching from Xubuntu.

I got a new hard drive for my old laptop

Debian or Antergos for my dwm setup?!

>>56249896
Go with Solus

>>56249919
A real distro or a pile of shit? What do you think?

>>56250105
Which is which, senpai?

I asked this in the stupid questions thread but no one answered, so I figured I'd ask here:

Can I make an ISO that has Arch Linux with a desktop environment already on it that I can then install onto a flash drive? And if so, how?

>>56250204
Check out "Architect Installer"

It's just a graphical installer for Arch that takes you every step of the way, including installing a DE of your choosing, if you want.

>>56250240
What is wrong with you people? If you can't install Arch, don't install Arch. If you want to install Arch, follow the Wiki, which are like 10 cli steps and done.

>>56250121
>senpai

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When I unzip my Japanese stuff, the files come out in what looks like glitchy Russian.
Is there some setting I need to change?
I use good ol' Ubuntu.

>>56250240
Cool, thanks
>>56250300
Well what I'm trying to do is create an iso that already has a desktop environment and doesn't really need to be installed

>>56250300
I've installed Arch with the installation guide before. Architect basically goes through all the same steps, but makes it easier and also lets you install additional packages at the end.

What benefits are there to installing it manually, besides taking longer and having a less usable system at the end?

>>56250339
>good ol' Ubuntu
wat

>>56250403
>basically
So it only supports the "default" "settings" the "devs" "think" " are right"?
Nah id rather type out a one liner with one switch and get it done properly for my setup

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It's been stuck like this for awhile

What do?

>>56250856
you didnt set your boot drive in syslinux.cfg
If you did, use UUID instead of hard links

>>56250897
syslinux.cfg just has

DEFAULT loadconfig 

LABEL loadconfig 
CONFIG /isolinux/isolinux.cfg 
APPEND /isolinux/

>>56250947
Nigga what are you doing kek
restart you're missing practically everything

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>>56250973
I don't know what you did, but you fixed it!

I just used a different USB writer

How do I git gud in emacs? At the moment I'm embarrassingly slow in it compared to when I use vim.

>>56251137
tutorial, do it

>>56250784
"implying"

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>>56251221

>>56251206
I did it

I don't even think about what vim commands I use, but I have to keep thinking and remembering with emacs

I know there's evil mode, but I want to be able to use vanilla emacs

>implying new thread: >>56251228

>>56251221
>

>>56242348
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/mobile/9780596005658.do
Understanding the Linux Kernel, 3rd Edition

Maybe a stupid question but is it even necessary to restart after upgrading packages in any circumstances?

>>56249272
Make sure you exec your DE in your .xinitrc, and exec your xinit or startx when starting your graphical session.
exec will actually replace the shell with xinit and then the DE, making that exploit impossible.