/tpg/

>>56184286
First for T430 Nvidia master race.

is it theoretically possible to put a larger resolution display on an older thinkpad if it has its whitelist disabled via libre\coreboot or a hacked bios?

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does anybody know how to check battery warranty?
obvious note: it is not battery included with laptop but separate one
note 2: it is accually from recall, I am checking papers that came with it, but there is no link betbeen papers and battery (SN is never mentioned)

>>56184610
there is no whitelis for screens, bios also doesn't matter, what matters is physicall support on board, if chip can handle that, if connector is the same etc.

>>56184610
there is no whitelist for displays, thats only for the pcie slot for wifi.
and yeah it's theoretically possible, it's just that nobody makes any good lvds screens that will fit in an older thinkpad.
>>56184296
have you tested the vidya much with the 5400m?
any chance you've played gta 5?
Now that I've set up my w520 for server work I'd like to replace my t420 (intel only) with a t430 with nvidia for both the 1600x900 screen, and the possibility of playing vidya on it

>>56184668
I've been playing gta 4 and postal 2 paradise lost for the moment, as I've never played the postal 2 expansions and gta 4 was played in a rush.

Anyway, what I can tell you is that I installed gta 5 and it runs (I only launched it and say that it ran and was playable with minimum settings). It's a good laptop for some light gaming.>>56184668

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Ever since I updated to Ubuntu 16.04 the wifi on my X220 keeps cutting randomly. There is nothing interesting in dmesg, and restarting the networking service has no effect (nor enabling/disabling wifi in NM). Toggling the physical wifi-switch works though, as does a reboot of course.

So, anyone have the same issue and is there a fix? Note that I've been running Ubuntu for years on this machine with no issue, so its really weird that this suddenly happened now...

>>56184770
same shit here on my t420. Im probably going to just go back to 15.10 or distrohop.

>>56184770
Check syslog.

Anyone tried the x250? Looking at either this or the asus ux305ca for a cheap linux laptop for development.

>>56184869
Get a x220 or x230. way cheaper.

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Not as many features as later think pads but you can't beat the retro feel

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Does my thinkpad have a virus?

JUST BOUGHT AN X220 WHAT DO I DO ?

>>56185411
install gentoo

>>56185411
buy and install SSD, RAM, and a new screen.

>>56185418
in the middle of installing debian. bootloader fucked.
>>56185428
i got ssd and 8 rams. which kind of screen? ips?

>>56185478
IPS screen, higher res if you need it.

>>56185589
they don't make higher res screens for the x220
unless you do some modding, and even then you get like a 1080p screen at best.
and with a 1080p screen that means you either get eye aids from having to squint consantly, or eye cancer from using scaling

This X200 I got has both annoying VRM whine and some static crackling through the built in speaker. Is there anything I can do about either of those? I didn't really notice until I put in a SSD because the old hard drive was noisy enough to cover it up.

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>>56184286
>picture of full screen video on youtube
x220 i5 with Windows 7, what causes pic related?

Happens under linux as well, doesn't have to be full screen.

>>56186540
try taking out one of your sticks of ram and see if it sticks
I feel like it's a gpu related issue, and since the gpu uses the normal system ram (that you've probably touched) it may be going bad or something.

>>56186578
Oh ok, that explains it, the RAM in my x220 is old and from a different system, I been wanting to buy new RAM anyway, any RAM good?

>>56186646
if you are buying new ram just spend the little bit extra to get 16 gigs
also get 1333mhz minimum. anything lower is pretty slow at this point.

>>56186842
>16GB

I thought x220 could only have 8 total

>>56187090
no, sandy bridge - haswell supports 8 gig dimms per slot
it's the 3rd gen core 2 duo and 1st gen core i that only support 4gb per slot.
then will broadwell + it's 16 gigs per slot

anyone have problems with thinkvantage? trying to use it to update drivers on w7 but it keep failing when i try to download

T420 for $350 at my local thrift shop running Ubuntu. Has it become a mainstream machine now?

>>56187801
i think one of the dudes just googled 't420 price' and concluded that it was worth 350 dollars. hate it when they do that shit.

>>56183307
1024x768 is enough with some scaling and good font rendering, it's perfect for shitposting/programming/decent webpages, but newer meme webpages might look weird in 4:3
Seriously 4:3 is great
>>56183472
Libreboot is ridiculously safe on the X60, but you lose tp_smapi capabilities and thus battery thresholds/recalibration
You can always flash your original firmware to change such things though, it's really easy to flash back to original or to flash Libreboot
Libreboot with the default GRUB2 payload makes booting insanely fast, just for that it is definitively worth it, even if you don't care about freedumbs
Coreboot should work equally well but it's a a pain to install compared to Libreboot

>>56187801
$350 is way to high for a t420
fuck that's too high for even a t430
that thing better come with a free hand job.

anyone else order an x62 from the guy coordinating us orders?

>>56169435 me

Got this baby for $175

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>>56188341
Forgot image

can anyone comment on the heating properties of the x220? I've had a t420 for comparison, is it any more or less ball-melting?

>>56188929
i5 X220 temps are comparable to an i5/Nvidia T420. Expect upwards of 80C under load if you don't turn off Turbo Boost and use manual fan control to force the fan to run at full speed without slowing down as soon as temperatures dip back below 65.

>>56188353
>>56188341
you're gonna replace the keyboard, right?

>>56189056
>le unusable chiclet keyboard xD

>>56189001
sounds pretty solid. now i just have to find one at a decent price that doesn't have chipped corners.

>>56189106
But the chiclet keyboard is shit?
Enjoy being a pleb then I guess

Is there any general guidline on when kaby lake thinkpads (specifically t-series) are to be expected?

>>56189334
they canceled every line except Edge and Yoga

>>56188353
Just ebayed a t430 myself, what screen did you get? I plan on doing the classic keyboard mod.

>>56189342
so new t-series will only come out once cannonlake is out?

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Loving my T440p so far.
Second hand, £300, 18 month Lenovo warranty and the battery is still very good.

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Just got a T420 for my dad, comes with a win7 product key. Can I use this key on an SP1 ISO? Shitty internet so I don't really want to install vanilla then wait for winblows upgrade to get me that SP1.

And no loonix is a no go because dad.

>>56190084
Put the T450 trackpad and enjoy it more.

>>56190173
>Can I use this key on an SP1 ISO
of course you can

>>56190173
maybe you need to install without a key and install the oem certificate (.xrm-ms) + key afterwards. guides how to do this can be found easily on the internet.

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This x220 is going for about 40% less than average around the price of x201.

I was looking at x201's but the x220 if I can get a good price seems better all round, save the 16:9.

So

Is the i5 acceptable?
Can I check if IPS from serial number?

Asked the seller about screen but they are literally too retarded to check in the driver details to find out.

Only other notable points is no HD. But I intend on dumping an SSD in it anyway.

Worth it?

>>56190834
Holy fuck. 3 sellers now too retarded and unwilling to verify screen type for me.

>ask and give instructions
"Sorry no idea"
"Sorry I don't know my husband is away"

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Is 150€ a good price for a T420 sporting a not-guaranteed 1h battery?

I'm in the market for a memepad and will probably get the T420. Is there anything I should know about its battery, and would it be recommendable to get a new one?
Ideally I'd want about 8 hours.

>>56190955
Don't buy from pajeets

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>>56184668
There you go. Just remember to get the 2GB 5400m variant (and possibly 28nm one instead of 40nm, if you're lucky).

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>>56191681
also settings

>>56189370
14 inch

>>56189056
Keyboard isn't bad. It's different but not bad. All the people who shit on it are tards who have never actually used it.

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>>56191692
cont settings

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>>56191718
2/2 settings
Also:
-Fallout 4 works fine at 1600x900 and almost everything set to medium (except textures, which are high)
-FC4 works fine (same as above)
-BF3/BF4 works flawlessly
-all source-based gaymes are working at 1920x1200 and everything set to ultra
Any other gaym I should test?

how often you have problems typical for older laptops (like gpu falling off and having to reball it) with thinkpads? mostly wondering about x230.

>>56192062
gpu falling was only related to t61p quadro series. Intel GPUs were never affected.
Also all nvidia/amd gpus since t61p were completely fine.

I've been testing my recently arrived t420s. It idles at about 53ºC with fan at 0, going up to about 75º on 60fps videos and light games, fan at 7.

Can I expect a major benefit if I open it up and switch thermal paste, along with the whole heatsink thing? t420s seems like a bitch to open for that

>>56192378
No, not really. It's fine.

>>56192440
Alright, thanks.

Just found out there's a 256gb ssd in the x201 I just bought. But it smells kinda toasty when I turn it on so I guess it's time for some dust removal.

Is it worthy to buy x220 for 290$?
- 256gb ssd
- 8gb ram
It was only used to be exhibitory item in shop.

>>56191741
Wait, this is a T430!? Can it play No Man's Sky at all? Or Hawken with no frame drops?

>>56192781
I don't know, I can download one of these and test it.

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>>56190834
Not absolute though

>>56192781
ok, so hawken will work perfectly fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld0l8J9YffU
it's 630m which is slower than overclocked nvs5400m.
I'm not sure about no mans sky, I can't download it now to test it.

T450s for $500 (8go RAM 180go ssd) should I buy?

>>56191741
specs?

>>56193029
i7-3630qm, 16gb ram, nvs 5400m 2GB, intel 530 120gb ssd, kingston savage 480gb ssd, 2tb samsung m9t hdd
I'm testing the i7 right now with HT disabled. Seems to be a lot cooler (85C max instead of 95-100 under full load) with turbo enabled.
Holy fuck I want t460p with gtx1060m. That's the only laptop I'll get to replace my old T430.

>>56193069
if you consider the mney spent upgrading and buying this computer you could have bought one t460p!

>>56193109
except t460p comes with GT 940MX at best. So I'll have to wait for t470p.

Looking for a good laptop after my x230 broke i can spend around 1200 dollarydoos im about to buy an E460 with 16gb i5 and 250 gb ssd is this a good choice? Would anything be better?

>>56184286
Bought a T420 used form a local PC repair shop the other day for $270 CAD. Pretty happy with it, running Xubuntu on an SSD

>>56193174
>buying unused shit
Kek. Enjoy your waste of money

>>56193228
it's just not a /tpg/ thinkpad if it doesn't have that nice little overlay of neckbeard cum from the previous owner over its keyboard

>>56193425
You probably mean corporate employee's cum.
Also you should sterilize your thinkpad after arrival

>>56193467
Depends on who you buy it from I guess
And still, even after sterilization, that wouldn't bode particularly well with me

Currently writing on an x220 that's running Android 6.0, feels pretty good guys.

>>56193487
>that wouldn't bode particularly well with me
then replace the entire keyboard for $10 you autistic cuck.

>>56193511
Post screenshot Google cuck

>>56193511
why android?
Just install debian on it. Android doesn't work well with the igpu

>>56193569
>le cuck maymay
go watch some anime on your crusty toy laptop sperglord

Hey E460 buyer here cant reply cuz hacked nokia brick cbf explaining.
I have no problems with used but employer said choose whatever upto 1200 after x230 broke.

>>56193638
I don't watch anime.
My laptop isn't a toy. It costs more than you, your father and your mother combined.

>>56193667
>implying
post specs you fucking faggot
inb4 consumercuck equipment like a fully-specced out Dell XPS 15 that you consider a """workstation"""

>>56193696
>guy who unironically asked about buying an E series trying to act superior to anyone else for using "consumercuck equipment"
o i am laffin

>>56193725
actually not >>56193174 kiddo
my posts start at >>56193425

Thoughts?
>https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/152-4487207-2765956?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=x220

>>56193696
>>56193069
there you go, cuck. Soon I'll be upgrading the CPU to i7-3740qm.

>>56193747
okay
>guy who is defending a guy who unironically asked about buying an E series trying to act superior to anyone else for using "consumercuck equipment"
still laffin

>>56193749
>using sandy bridge mobile cpus in 2016
You might as well just kill yourself now.

>>56193762
if it doesn't have a Xeon, a Quadro GPU and ECC RAM it's a toy
literally get good

>>56193778
>xeon
>laptop
Kek. Show me ONE model with "xeon" and 14" screen. I dare you.
Daily reminder: mobile xeons are basically i7s with misleading names
>quadro GPU
It does have Quadro NVS GPU.
>ECC
>laptop
I'm not even gonna explain to you how stupid you are. KYS

>>56193765
try again nigger, I was making a general statement regarding used laptops

>>56193813
>buying consumershit laptops
>calling somebody a nigger

>>56193813
>implying buying new shit is superior to buying used quality just because it's new
Sure you're not the consumercuck here?

>>56193808
>Xeon
Closest I can think of is 15", Dell Precision 7510
14" laptops are an obscure meme form factor anyway
Xeons are glorified i7's in general, but they're necessary for ECC
>Quadro
You get 1/3, and an ancient shitty once at it. Pat yourself on the back kid
>ECC
>hurr I don't need it so it's stupid xD
consider suicide

I've gotten my hands on a very nice T420.
I've bought CPU and RAM upgrades and I am loving how capable it is!

I'm a little bothered by the 900p resolution though.
How risky is the 1080p IPS screen mod? Can anyone here recommend it?
Is there anything not listed on ThinkWiki I should watch out for?

>>56193880
nobody needs ECC in laptops, unless you're talking about mobile servers. I bet you don't even understand how non-ECC and ECC memory controllers work.
>14" laptops are an obscure meme form factor anyway
Said a poor nigger who wants to buy consumer-tier toys

>>56193913
The mod doesn't work right on the normal T420 or T430, there's backlight flickering issues. Something to do with the board layout, I guess, since it's not a problem for the slim variants.

>>56193880
Xeon E3s*
Before you nitpick on it like a faggot

>>56193913
>How risky
depends on your luck. In most cases the LVDS>eDP adapter will cause too much noise and cease to work after week of use. Get 900p screen, it's much better than non-IPS screens in x220. Personally I'm happy with it.

>>56193927
>nobody uses ZFS on laptops
>nobody runs workloads with no margin of error on a laptop
and literally where did I mention buying anything consumer-tier

>>56193880
>everything that doesn't provide the absolute maximum of performance available on the market is a toy
Nice logic you got there, you brainless stupid nigger.

>>56193949
>>56193930

Guess I'm stuck with a 900p screen then :/
Thanks for the advice!

>>56193961
>margin of error
Have you ever seen "errors" that you talk so much about on non-ecc memory, nigger?
Or are you just here to advertise some placebo-tier shit for corporate babies?
>ZFS
>laptops
You mean mobile workstations aka "desktop replacements", not laptops.
Kys&GTFO

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>>56193961
>ECC
>laptops

>>56194014
>mobile workstations don't count as laptops
>"i haven't experienced something thus it doesn't occur in the wild"
ok senpai

>>56194040
>scaring people with non-ECC memory
Unless you work on the ISS and your laptop is being treated with cosmic ray then you have nothing to worry about.

>>56194014
>>56194083
fuck it, might as well spoonfeed you both with a practical case of non-ECC RAM fucking shit up in the wild all the time
http://dinaburg.org/bitsquatting.html

>>56194112
>jewish blogs
No thanks.

>>56194151
>everything is a jewish conspiracy
>>>/pol/

>>56194165
>every single thing I read on the internet is true
>no, I won't trust my own experience, let's read some blogs instead!

>>56194218
I can assure you the credentials of the person whose blog I linked to exceed anything you will accomplish within your lifetime

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>>56192870
Cheers mang. Yeah I got that far myself. I'm going to pull the trigger on it. If it's a dud I can either sell it or just wait a bit and buy an IPS to fit myself.

>>56185371
Looks like it got infected with stupid

>>56187801
People have caught on that's for sure.

>>56192981
No

So I bought a T450s today. Lay it on me

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Is worth it for 1.299,00 € ?? WTF

>>56195334
Do you like it?

So I bought a used t420. I can't get install linux because it won't boot off of my usb drive. Is there something that could be in my bios that won't let me? I've changed the boot order many times.

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>>56195575
oh boy

>>56195369
No. Thinkpads are prohibitively expensive to buy new because the individual consumer is not the target audience. They're aimed at businesses that buy in bulk and priced accordingly.

>>56195628
tell me

Just bought a Thinkpad t420 with the Nvidia dedicated graphics, and an i5 2520m for $175 USD. Did I fuck up?

>>56184286
is the keyboard on the x220 the same part as on the t420?

>>56195379
yes. Getting used to the trackpoint. This is my first Thinkpad.

>>56195750
Yes.

>>56195761
What were your previous onces? How dovou like them compared?

>>56195847
>Onces
Ones soz idk what happened

>>56195575
post pics

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There's a dude supposedly selling an X230 IPS screen for like $5 in San Diego.
Kinda spooked to get it though, idk if gonna get mugged.

>>56185371
Nah, 600 series just have a different smell to them unlike any other ThinkPad.
Arguably the greatest built ThinkPad ever made... but I'm not too sure about your example.

did you guys know that lenovo is soldering some of their internal components now in the newer thinkpads?

I had no idea, this is fucking horrible.
Of course I'm on a used thinkpad right now just like the rest of you, but when supply of the usable thinkpads runs out, what will we use then?

>>56193581
>>56193605

Because Android is the only Linux I've never found to be a pain in my ass the second I install something that wasn't included.

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>>56187801
Frys was selling a T420 for $200 or $250 in San Diego...
While an Dell D630 with an SSD was selling for $300 in the same store!

>>56190084
Nice
T440's are becoming a pretty good price nowdays.
Kinda want to snag a W550s.

>>56196020
>what will we use then
replace the motherboards and keep using them

I dont have a laptop
I need a laptop, preferably small.
x230?

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>>56195960
This is the boot order. My usb stick doesn't show up no matter what port I put it in and I can boot from it in other computers so it's not the stick that's the problem. I have computrace and intel amt and all that other shit disabled so I don't know what the problem is.

>>56192981
Not bad, FHD IPS display is a drop in if its not available.

>>56193749
I wouldn't pay more than $170 from anything on amazon, because they are all basically the same type of sellers on eBay.

At least on eBay you can see what laptop condition you are buying from most sellers.

>>56193778
fyi a lot of laptops are toys then, oh wait, no one cares what you think.

>>56196137
>no one cares what you think
>is a tripfag
literally broadcasting what a self-important prick you are to the rest of the world
you faggots are way too easy to bait

>>56196113
Tried all usb ports?

What sort of battery life can I expect from an x201 with ssd and 9 cell battery? I'm considering if it (the 9 cell) would be worth 70 euros..

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>>56195369
Yeah its new, no shit.
>buy new laptop
>it drops value if you want to resell it
>buy new car
>it tanks in value the moment it leaves the parking lot

>>56195575
I've had problems with UEFI n shit.
Switch to legacy mode, change CSM maybe.

Also try other USB ports, maybe that one is bad?
My T430s has problems with its USB ports, don't want to work sometimes.

>>56196158
Boy, you sure got me!

>>56196333
trips wasted on a tripfag post
what irony
i get that you're insecure over your used and backdoored chinkshit garbage but you'll just have to cope with its inherent inferiority lad

>>56196175
Yeah I have.

>>56195847
This is my first laptop ever

Hey /g/, first time user here, used to use 4chan but hate this place now but have heard you guys at least are on the level so tryin it out.

Got a T510 running kali, I'm just trying to get into security so I figured it would be a good point of entry even though I don't know what most of its tools do yet. Any advice from kali users? Also any idea where to find new red nibs. Mine is fucked

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>>56196362
lol wew lad
>arguing about tripfagging in 2016
I'm fine with backdoors, I'm a cuck breh.

>>56196422
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/291401527085
>https://www.cybrary.it/course/ethical-hacking/
If 4chan too shitty, there's always leddit.

Is it bad if the 3g/w-wan indicator is always on? I don't even have a wwan card installed.

>>56184286
Where can I get a T420s cover/skin for the top of my laptop lid?
One with the lenovo logo.
There are some on eBay for $10 but those are from American sellers and I feel I can get them cheaper from a Chinese seller which I can't find.

>>56196506
thanks for the links, appreciate it. gonna give that course a spin.

Is the T400 screen better than the T420 screens?

Why the fuck X201 is so expensive?

>>56196004
who would use an x230 ips display as bait, I'm definitely not planning to jump you

>>56195369
Wallpaper plz

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>>56196952
It's not.

But the x201 is fantastic, just saying~

>>56197074
is that libreboot or coreboot

Been mulling over my options for a while now...I've read the buyers' guide and the other buyers' guide and I've narrowed down my desired specs to:
15.6", i7, 256+ SSD, etc.
Main point: I'll be using this DESKTOP REPLACEMENT primarily for university, but plan on doing some light filthy casual gaming as well. I'd rather have more than I need than not enough, but I dont want more than I'll ever use. Can one recommend a specific series?

>>56197119
He has just replaced the bootup picture..

>>56197024
Its strange, but eh, I don't need one, I'll pass, can't mod it on my X131e I have I don't think. :/

>>56197285
why x131e
get x120e and replace the motherboard with i3 edge 11's one

>>56197259
oh.. too bad

>>56185371
it has the human immunodeficiency virus

>>56197208
t520 + docking station

Bought a T420s over eBay, unfortunately Computrace is activated. I read that people had success calling Absolute Software and explaining the situation, if the laptop hadn't been reported as stolen. Has any of you gone through this?

I see a T510 on Craigslist for $120 and I need a laptop soon. Is it worth to cop? I don't see it on the used buyer's guide. Can I install Gentoo on it?

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The old L450 is quite cheap here these days, so is it worth it to just get one and upgrade the screen, or just bite the bullet and go for a normal priced L460 (its like 3x or something silly)? I guess the 460 has skylake, but is that really that noticable if I stick to i3?

Also for screen replacement, can I just get a new 450 screen from screencountry/ebay and swap it directly? I read somewhere that for the "FULL" HD (1920x1080) panel you need a new cable or something for the motherboard (given that the machine came with the normal HD panel). Where do you get that?

>>56197381
Any reason not to get a P series instead? That is, if I manage to find one cheaper @/+ same specs

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>>56197331
One of the X131e I have just so happens to come with a 3rd gen i3, so the swap isn't needed.

I'm fine with the bulkier size for the USB 3.0 tradeoff.

>>56197505
Personally I wouldn't worry about it much.
Havent went through that process.

>>56197536
T510's can be had from $95 to $220
>http://www.dankpads.com/p/2009-2010-business-class-laptops-1st.html

>>56197605
If you have the money, get one. There's about 3 P50/70 users here, dunno about the P40.

>>56197505
>>56197657
The laptop can get bricked at any time right?

How long should it take to break in the trackpoint on a thinkpad? Bought a used T450s but it looks like the previous owner didn't use it at all

So, after replacing my main OS drive couple of times I finally decided to not use the same windows 10 image.
Should I install Windows 10 or Windows 7 on my T430?
I care a lot about battery life, tho. I like Windows 7 classic look but I prefer Windows 10's task manager.
Help me decide, /g/

How much would a t430 cost me if it had the highest display res as well as a discrete gpu and is in good condition?

What about an x230 in good condition?

>>56197708
yes
call them and explain the situation

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>>56197708
If it was stolen, then yes, or the cops can come.
Most likely the IT department of the old business probably forgot about it when the recycler/reseller had gotten the laptop.

I hadn't have a problem on the 3 units I sold.
It seems contacting computrace can be a bother, because it can now become "We were not notified about this laptop being stolen, let us notify the company who owns this laptop now."
Does the call go to the IT department of that company or does it go to the secretary or top boss now?
Does the manager of IT know that they were sold by a third party or was it possible it was stolen?

>>56197770
$600 top spec 900p nvidia
X230 $300 for 'good condition'

>>56197794
So you're saying that it may end up biting me back if I call them?

>>56197794
>>56197894
Seller told me to call the number that showed up "they should take it off for me"

>>56197923
Why does lenovo put ransomware in their laptops?

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>>56184286
Any tips for NEW ThinkPads?
I have been looking at this L460 (pic related)
But it has no GPU (Not really a big deal, don't play a lot of games, but I want to try BF1)

And this Y700 with
>GeForce GTX960M,Core i5-6300HQ,8GB RAM,256GB SSD
Is just a little bit more pricey, but the Yoga models are ugly and I really like the ThinkPad look and design.

What do I do?

>>56198018
>ThinkPads

>>56197208
>light gaming
This has to stop.

If you want to play games on your Thinkpad, PLEASE list some titles and expected settings/performance when asking for a model recommendation. Broad terms like "light gaming" are completely useless because they mean totally different things to everyone. Not all games are optimized the same and there is no way for us to know in advance unless you tell us what you intend to play.

>>56198091
Yes, I clearly need help

>>56197208
If you really want a desktop replacement, I would recommend the W520. Both the T520 and W520 are similar models, but the W520 has proper cooling for a quad core i7(I think?). W520 also has 4 DIMM slots. Be careful, know that not all mobile core i7s are quad cores, and some are just dual cores. You can also get an eGPU, and with that I think you can probably replace a desktop even if you game.

>>56198018
>Any tips for NEW ThinkPads?
Don't buy new. The models that are worth owning are too expensive and the more reasonably priced models aren't worth owning.

If you insist on buying new and don't have thousands of dollars to spare, look somewhere else. Thinkpads are not for the average consumer. They're for businesses and professionals who don't care how much they have to spend to get the hardware they need.

>>56198101
>>56198205
I'll be playing League of Legends on the go with some mates on campus, dont need the absolute prettiest picture. As long as the edges don't look 8-bit ingame, maximising frames has always been my priority. Willing to spend up to 1.5k for a brick that'll last me more than a couple years.

I just bought a Lenovo T420 - Core i5 @ 2.5GHZ/8GB of RAM/160GB SSD/Nvidia/1600x900/Win 7 Pro on ebay, it's my first Thinkpad. Hope it's in good shape, I plan to do a lot of Linux terminal stuff and work with VM's and Docker so it should have everything I need for the price I paid for it. Went for one with the 1600x900 screen and discrete graphics, wasn't planning on an SSD or 8gb of ram but those are definitely cherries. Might upgrade to 16gb later down the road, depending on virtualization needs. I opted for the T420 for the keyboard, can't wait to try it.

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>>56197062

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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-2-in-1-14-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/4456400.p?
fukkkkk. this is like $600 right now, but I already got a TP Yoga 12". Buy it then use return policy if I don't like it?

>>56191681
>>56191692
>>56191718
>>56191741
cool, what frame rates do you get?

is x220 with i7 worth it?
is battery life much worse?

>>56199606
>i7 thinkpad
those are housefire tier

thinking about ordering the chink thinkpad x61 drop in motherboard, the i7-5600u board, anyone know if that reddit guy is still taking orders?

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Buttblasted blog post incoming:
>go to buy a slice for my X230T locally that someone listed as having used for their X220
>check part number and seems to be compatible with X230T based on some third party sites selling them (Gookovo documentation is useless)
>try fitting the fucker in, won't snap properly into place
>fiddle around with it for almost 20 minutes in disbelief that it's not compatible, looking mentally retarded.
>Gookovo Chinkshit site has close to no information and if there is it's so convoluted that it takes forever to locate any important info
>end up not buying the fucking thing

Last gookpad I'm buying. Fuck Lenovo and the cancer they have turned the Thinkpad line into.
Something as simple as checking battery models has become a chore because they want to push the two year upgrade cycle, Apple style, spitting on any legacy support. I'm not even going to bother mentioning the drop in build and firmware quality.

I've heard horrors about and sort of customer service many times as well. Fuck this glorified chinkshit. Every hardware iteration moves further and further away from quality

>>56199741
they sell direct from some gook site I think
do post your experience with the board once you get it

>>56199862
the 51nb forums? they have a purchase area of the site? ill put up videos on youtube, youll know because theyll be the only ones in english :/

>>56199892
no, I have some random link someone here posted on some chink site

I wouldn't trust it but here you go
http://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=1905816197&p=-1

>>56199944
lmao thanks i guess here goes

>>56199944
to add, I'm waiting for the board to get an official western purchase channel

Otherwise they can go fuck themselves
Not interested in getting screwed over

>>56199973
careful
I don't even know what their deal is with QC, returns, international shipping

>>56195648
i buy new thinkpads sometimes. considering how long they last, they're not a bad investment for anyone. the oldest one i have is from 2002 or something.

What do you guys think about the Carbon x1?

>>56200011
i'm on a x1c3 running ubuntu and win7 vm right now. it's great.

>>56200011
get a macbook

>>56199944
am back from the chink site. out of the 5600u version, gonna have to settle for the i7-5500u.
>>56199987
I feel this is worth the risk, taking the plunge, will post when i get it

>>56199989
the new gookovo garbage is not even close to the same build quality

>>56200031
>I feel this is worth the risk, taking the plunge, will post when i get it
Good luck. I've heard that they did enough revisions of this particular board to iron out major issues but I heard this on fucking here because there is literally no effort on the part of the engineer/dev to appeal to western markets

I heard their mindset is "very Chinese" about development and support. They can go fuck themselves. I don't want to own a hobbyist board that has close to no western users.

>>56200163
yes, using google translate, ive read one post saying things should be "old and yellow, not white and tender"

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Using the mouseclit drunk is surprisingly similar to driving drunk.

>>56199841
does the slice have a lock and is the lock in the locked position?

I know that the *20 and *30 share docking stations, so I'm assuming the slice should be compatible too...

>>56196075
>frys san diego
holy shit i saw that went back a week later and it was gone

also get out of my town

>>56200393
trust me I tried every combination possible with the lock latch
made no sense to me how it wouldn't fit

there are conflicting third party documentation on whether the slice for the X220 is compatible with the X230T. Really hard to get clear info about it, even with the part number

Friendly reminder to clean out your fans with compressed air!

My fans were caked in dust they couldn't even move air anymore.
Now I'm doing 40C, down from 50C and my x200 doesn't even make noise anymore when opening 3 youtube tabs at once.

>>56184286
tety

>>56199841
Batteries for tablet and regular models are different.

>>56200990
Use a toothbrush on the bottom intake vents too. I got a couple of degrees that way.

Bought an x230 refurb off of Amazon for $245 shipped. It looks like new, came with a larger HDD than listed and also has the IPS.

Am I a good consumer, /g/?

>>56201384
yeah, learned that the hard way

Ebay and other reseller sites are wrong about there being a slice that is compatible with Tablet and regular models. Obviously one doesn't exist.

This makes sense based on previous releases where docks are different for tablet and non tablet versions of the same laptop (for example, the X200T and the X200)

>the windows 10 update fucked the bluetooth drivers on my t420

>le gooko doesn't support w10 on the t420

>>56201517
>he downgraded from 7 or linux to spyware 10
madman

>>56201681
i thought if you turned cortana and microsoft account off you'd have a quicker, less resource intensive version of 7

i was wrong

>>56201714
Not all memes you see here are a meme, a good amount are real, like the dont buy SV300, avoid low end ASRock, dont buy seagate, etc.

What is the average price of a IPS panel for a X220?

Can you guys post some model numbers to check prices in my region?

>>56201761
>avoid seagate
based on one meme graph that has been disproved ten times am I rite? budget WD is worse than budget Seagate.
Seagate had one bad batch of drives at one point and now every pseudo intellectual parrots the same meme citing the same garbage source that could not even properly collect data.

What is the coziest distro for a T420?

>>56201855
No, based in the number of people you see having HDD problems in sqt around 13000-15000 hours.

>>56201808
Buy a 230 with ips switch screens sell x230 woth shit screen

>>56201872
source?

gotta t420 with an i7, ssd, 9cell battery, and 16 rams

it has windows 10... and i miss having a numpad
the nub mouse is pretty fun, the touchpad randomly not responding reminds me to use it

>>56201988
I disabled the touchpad about 2 months after i got mine

>>56199606
>is x220 with i7 worth it?
don't think so mate, there's little you can't do with a x220 i5 if you are doing office work, dev work, shiposting, browsing the web.
Big battery has probably 9 hours if you plan to browse the web and listen some music. Right now i'm writing you this from mine with 79% battery (7:10 left).
only thing I would like to get is the HD mod just because I already upgraded ram and disk to SSD.

Other than a better CPU and GPU and having a 1440x900 instead a 1600x900, what im missing buying a T400 rather than a T420?

>>56185822
The speaker noise is probably the thin metal ribbon above the fan assembly being vibrated at a high speed and coming in contact with the x clamp on the CPU.

You need to open up the machine and bend the metal ribbon into place so it doesn't vibrate anymore.

Also clean out your fan so it doesn't vibrate the metal ribbon again.

>>56184969
wow no takers?

shit i need to up my game

>>56202243
msata slot
sata3
16gb ram

>>56202823
I guess mSATA slot sounds like something useful i might need.

How do I get Lenovo Settings app start on bootup in windows 10 (To automatically turn on battery stretcher)?

aight i just ended up buying a t420 for $110, a battery, and some ram. looked like it was in shit condition but meh. how should i clean it up?

>>56201869
>using buzzwords like "coziest"
kill yourself

Have any of you ever tried drawing on an X220 with the tablet pen? Just wondering if it's worth buying instead of the regular model if it's decent enough for doing art with.

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>>56202944
i am very bad at drawing but i drew this on an x230t

Are lightweight distros with xfce or lxde really necessary for t420 thinkpads?

I was thinking about trying elementary os

>>56202968
I'm not sure what to do, not to sound like a complete idiot but I've never bought a laptop before and would like to have something for school. The tablet laptops look like they'd be good to use because of the screen rotation but a lot of people recommend a surface pro or ipad pro for drawing. The tablets seem way more limited compared to a laptop when it comes to program support though.

I also already own a dell venue 8 pro but usually just use it to play visual novels, and it also has microsoft office if I really wanted to try using that instead.

>>56201415
35C!

My thinkpad's never been this cool before.

What's the opinion on the helix model?

>>56184770
What wifi card do you have? I had a usb wifi dongle where the drivers in the kernel were broken where it would cut out but still show as connected restarting or unplugging dongle would fix it but I had to use this for a permanent fix

https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes

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Is there a way to actually disassemble the fan portion of the T420 heatsink?

With my T60 I was able to bend some metal flaps and peel back some tape to remove its fan and properly lube it but when I had this T420 disassembled it didn't look like there was a way to do that...

>>56203156
i got my x230t for school and it worked admirably well (until i got a non tablet i7 version)

i only used the tablet features for taking notes (windows journal has pretty good handwriting to text) until i realized i never look at my notes

keep in mind that the thinkpads use wacom tablet hardware, so use that as your baseline to compare them to arm garbage

if you want a laptop and can afford the tablet, i would say go for it

So, where can I get one of those IBM external HDD's that some anon mentioned? It sure seems like an interesting ThinkPad-themed gadget.

>>56192721
Pretty expensive m8. A good price for X220 is closer to $200

>>56193880
Nobody needs ECC in a laptop.

Who's laptop is going to be fucking running any longer than a dozen hours max at a time?

If it's on 24/7 you should have bought a fucking desktop

>>56194001
You can't get 1080p but what you can do is get the screen from the 1st gen X1 Carbon.

It's still TN and it's still 900p, but it does have amazing viewing angles in comparison to the stock 900p screen

Let's say a normal 768p / 4gb ram / 500gb hdd T420 is around $220 (shithole prices), what would be a reasonable price to sell a fully upgraded T420?

Thinking in selling my maxed t420 for an x220t.

>>56203858
>Nobody needs ECC in a laptop
and by nobody you mean you

there is a reason high end workstations replacement laptops come with ECC

mem err correction has nothing to do with extended uptime

memory errors can happen immediately and can cause a lot of trouble in critical applications

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>>56185371
Download AVG 2015 and run a full scan, pretty sure you have a Trojan and you're gonna want to get it purged real quick.

>>56203965
>there is a reason high end workstations replacement laptops come with ECC
What? Which ones?

>memory errors can happen immediately and can cause a lot of trouble in critical applications
Why are you running critical applications on a laptop?

That's what remoting into a server or desktop PC suited to that kind of shit is for

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>>56203965
>running critical application on a gimped overexpensive weaker than desktop equivalent machines with heat issues and poor battery life

>>56204046
>he can lug a desktop to some remote area and plug it into a tree

>>56204062
>he needs to run critical applications by a tree

>>56204070
>NEET detected

>>56204062
Watching 10bit anime outside is not critical work anon and its not like the quality would be worth it on the shitty screens typical to 'workstation' laptops

>>56204062
>he doesn't charge his thinkpad from a tree then cut said tree with his thinkpad and make a bonfire by running benchmarks
pleb

>>56204062
I don't have a shitty job that requires scientific calculation outdoors for no reason.

>>56204046
yes because no one in the history of mobility has needed to do something important outside of a conventional office

>>56204081
>>56204083
>>56204098
>thing is dumb because i think no one uses it despite there being a market for it which funds hardware development for said thing

if desktops were superior to laptops then laptops would not exist

>>56204128
Not often enough that the extremely infinitesimal chance a memory error would just so happen to cause a big issue at a time I absolutely could not re-do something/

>>56204148
But there isn't a market for ECC ram in laptops outside of one or two Lenovo shitstations, but it's not like Lenovo is very savvy with their markets to begin with

>>56204029
>Why are you running critical applications on a laptop?
let me assemble a list of all the situations ever in enterprise where that might be needed
>What? Which ones?
P50 and P70 for example
You can look for more on your own

>>56204157
>let me assemble a list of all the situations ever in enterprise where that might be needed
Can you do at least two?

>>56204156
yet lenovo manages to sell ECC laptops

>>56204157
>>56204173
Fuck lenovo. They lock out all ECC RAM that isn't their own overpriced shit unless you're willing to delve into bios hacking

>>56204181
chinks gonna chink

if I have no budget, and I want a thinkpad, which thinkpad do I buy?

>>56203965
>there is a reason high end workstations replacement laptops come with ECC
the P50 and P70 are the only ones that do and they are very recent

They also don't recognize non-Lenovo RAM as ECC capable

>>56204149
everyone is you
Lenovo and other enterprise grade manufacturers are offering ECC options in workstation replacement laptops as a joke obviously, so you can laugh about how dum they are
>>56204166
can you list at least two reasons a workstation might need ECC? if yes apply that to the """""workstation replacement"""""" laptops Gookovo is churning out

>>56204209
x220 refurb, it's kool

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>>56204181
Lenovo is a cancer
The Thinkpad brand is a former shell of itself
MEMES

>>56204209
older one with a proc that has aged well

>>56204237
>Lenovo and other enterprise grade manufacturers
What other manufacturers?

It's literally the P50 and P70 ONLY

Which is an issue, see >>56204233

>>56204237
>can you list at least two reasons a workstation might need ECC?
I can't, actually. Outside of scientific computing shit. But running those which go for days on a laptop is fucktarded, and would also be slow as fuck since laptops have way slower hardware. Remote into a desktop for that shit. Laptops can't last long enough on battery to do anything meaningful like that.

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>>56204267
>it's only bad because it's more expensive

Stop moving the goalposts. Lenovo-only or not, ECC ram on laptops exist

>>56204209
T400 or X200.

>>56204277
>I can't, actually.
there is your problem

workstation have ECC for a reason

if a laptop is going to be branded as a workstation replacement (a good option for a company that wants to cut costs by issuing one device to a worker instead of a desktop laptop combo) then it's going to need ECC options as well

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>>56204284

>>56204331
Then why has it only now been made in 2016?

>>56204331
But workstation replacement laptops usually cost a great deal more than the equivalent workstation.

So the only reason to have one is portability. Which AUTOMATICALLY makes scientific computing and all the shit that needs ECC ram unfeasible.

>>56204331
>there is your problem
>I-I don't know any e-either!

>>56204267
>Which is an issue
not sure why this is an issue or what point it proves

it's simple marketing

if the laptop is going to be branded as a workstation replacement it's going to need to come with ECC options

Gookovo is hoping that they will get a market niche by getting companies interested in buying a single laptop for a worker that would otherwise need a laptop and ECC workstation issued for their use
>>56204385
well I'm sure you understand what the market needs better than one of the largest computer companies in the world
>>56204400
I have to spoonfeed retards lists now that would take one search to get to?

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>>56204341

>>56203794
I haven't looked a whole lot on ebay but I don't think ssd's or 8gb of ram comes up really often in x220's I mostly saw them with hdd's and 4gb of ram
Looking on newegg a decent 256gb SSD is around $80 and another 4GB of ram would be ~$20


IMO if its in near mint condition, has a battery and charger it might be worth that especially if it has an ips screen

>>56204424
>not sure why this is an issue
You don't see how a manufacturer arbitrarily locking out other ECC RAM brands is an issue even though they behave exactly the same?

It's a total jew move, for the sole purpose of making people buy their overexpensive ram

>>56204455
So?

ECC ram is by design more expensive than regular ram

>>56204455
>It's a total jew move, for the sole purpose of making people buy their overexpensive ram
it absolutely is but you have bigger problems to worry about than RAM restrictions if you're using a proprietary BIOS. I would be a lot more pissed about the irremovable ME backdoor in my gookovo bios before I even considered the ECC RAM lockout


I was saying that I don't see how it's an issue in the context of ECC ram being in a laptop

>>56204592
Lenovo's ECC ram is more expensive than other ECC ram.

In fact, all laptop manufacturers have overpriced RAM, even if it's just ordered from another supplier you can order yourself for way less

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>>56204442

does anyone know what the 70++, 55++ etc on the Lenovo batteries means?

>>56204821
milliamp hours

the pluses tell you if its and extended model

>>56204862
do you mean amp hours?

also does anybody know if I can replace the 18650s inside the battery myself? or can anyone recommend a good compatible replacement battery for T420? The one on the Lenovo website has shit reviews

>>56204284
so thinkpads are only for righties now?

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>>56204632

>>56204979
they're not really for anyone imo
I mean just look at these abortions

>>56204973
>also does anybody know if I can replace the 18650s inside the battery myself?
No
there's a failsafe on the circuitboard that will break the battery unless it's done properly

It's not like replacing the AAs on your remote

>>56205012
E series thinkpads have always been ugly.

They're the poorfag models.

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>>56205098
with the latest chinkovo trash it's getting harder and harder to tell an E apart for an X or T

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>>56205012

>>56205147
>chiclet
those aren't thinkpds

>>56205147
wait

why the fuck did they add 2 whole inches of width?
Is the X series 15 inches now?

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>>56205156
yes it would appear not
we should tell Lenovo they've made a huge branding mistake

>>56205345
>e-series

budget trash

>>56205386
yes, they should stop slapping the fucking logo on any piece of shit that's not even close to a Thinkpad
>>56205345
>>56205154
>>56205012
>>56204341

truly disgusting

>>56205401
Edge series is a longstanding shitpad line tho

>>56205401
Absolutley agreed. Newer shit that isn't a mainline T or X series can't be considered a Thinkpad anymore

>>56204454
It has ips.

>>56205160
No, the keyboard is less wide

>>56205156
You can replace the chiclets on the X230 at least
It's a thinkpd for sure

>>56205345
I unironically like the x120e

No it's not a fucking x220, but what it is, is really badass for an 11 inch little fucking laptop/netbook

>>56205160
x260 is 12.03 inches, x220 is 12.00 inches.

It only looks wider because they keyboard is smaller. Look at the \ key in particular.

>>56205453
>mainline T or X series
yes and at this point even our mainlines aren't safe from significant drops in quality and removal of features that were characteristic of the brand

can ya'll post your idle/light load temps?

running i7 T420 at the moment, running at 80 degrees (176F)

is this normal?

>>56205547
Are you sure it's not 80F??

>>56205478
>You can replace the chiclets on the X230 at least
with physical modding or replacing the palmrest as well as flashing a custom BIOS

what a fucking pain

>>56205547
c2d X200, 36C with 12 4chan tabs open.
Clean your fans out with compressed air, it's probably not even pushing air out.

>>56205557
How fucking lazy are you?
I got it done in under an hour.

You don't even need a replacement palmrest. I got it done with nothing but an exacto knife.

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>>56205498
That's the x121e

This is the x120e, which looks much better in comparison

>x220 doesn't have touchpad buttons
>x120e does

Why is this allowed???

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>>56205564
I just cleaned my fans out earlier, it's 14C (57F) outside

I closed all but this 1 tab on Chrome and the temps dropped a little bit

do I need to reapply thermal paste?

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>>56205547
Running a VM, Photoshop, several tabs, and YouTube playing in the background. Also Telegram and Powerpoint, but those aren't too intensive

>>56205605
Is there air flow coming out of your fans at all?
You should be able to feel it on your face.

>>56205594
>x120e
>AMD
Are you for real? At least go for a Pentium...

>>56205643
>handles windows 7 aero shit

What more do you need?

That's already a godsend for a netbook

>>56205566
I got a mint condition X230T for pennies

now I have to track down a good condition kb and flash a fucking BIOS just to get it back to the same state as my stock X200T?

It's like a fucking downgrade. I'm demotivated because I know it won't even be possible for the any newer memepad

I'm pissed I have to spend time unfucking a factory condition laptop because some faggot gook wants everything to be a macbook clone

>>56205627
is your fan going about 100%? mine seems super loud compared to the i5 t420 i had up until today

>>56205633
yep theres a nice warm breeze coming out, i can feel it with my face 10cm away

i just detached it from the dock, opened Youtube and GIMP, and it seems to be more reasonable around 55C (131F)

fan is still loud af tho

>>56205547

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Fan:         3776 RPM
Core 0:       +36.0°C  
APS:          +50.0°C  
Core 1:       +38.0°C  
Batt 1:       +30.0°C  
Batt 2:       +30.0°C  
Nbridge:      +46.0°C  
SSD:          +39.0°C

>>56205650
I like Aero better than old Win95 style. But damn do I wish I can run GNOME on Windows. I'd like it so much better, and got used to running it
>>56205662
It's not balls to the wall loud. My storage hard drive is noisier if I'm being perfectly honest.

>>56205662
55C is still way too much to be idle temp.
I'd repaste if I were you.
Just don't throw out the thermal pad on the GPU, that thing is harder to replace.

>>56205681
cool, how easy it it to do?

I have fixed 100s of desktop PCs, but never repasted a laptop

>>56205653
>now I have to track down a good condition kb
Ten minutes on ebay. Look for part number 45N2176 and Grade A condition and you'll find something quickly.

>and flash a fucking BIOS
This part is even easier, probably 5 minutes or less, you just put an image in your usb drive and the thinkpad will flash it on next reboot

>I'm pissed I have to spend time unfucking a factory condition laptop because some faggot gook wants everything to be a macbook clone
Sorry you're a fucking pissbaby and can't deal with it. But you're getting better hardware specs than an X220 for your trouble, especially in the iGPU realm, and USB3. So in the end it's an upgrade in absolutely every regard, unless you're really fucking irrationally scared of IME

>>56205694
>unless you're really fucking irrationally scared of IME
Intel Active Management has been part of thinkpads WAY before the X230

>>56205690
Accessing the heatpipe on a T4xx series is pretty easy, just take the keyboard and palmrest off and unscrew the heatpipe/fan assembly.
If you're on an X2xx series, good fucking luck, you have to take the entire machine apart (including the display) to take the motherboard out because the heatpipe/fan assembly is underneath the mobo.

>>56205707
it's also irremovable since 2008 era hardware

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>>56205653
Haha fucking loser

>>56205594
They are the same laptop lol
It's just a number Lenovo felt like slapping onto it.
Check the tabook if you don't believe me, they can be configured the same, just different release date.

>>56204979
Lenovo saw what IBM did when they tried a numberpad on the left
It didn't fucking work.
They did take glossy lids tho.

>>56200011
I kinda miss it but I was pretty disappointed on spending $900 for it after feeing the flex on it.
T430s - better performance and muh build quality
Pixel - dat display, muh Ultrabook, muh aluminum build quality
I was afraid of the X1C3 that it would break on me.