/tpg/

T420 or X220?

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Do I need to order programmer clip to flash bios?

>>56206746
Depends on what you value the most. I'd go with the T420.

Whats a good price for a Z61?

>>56206817
5 bucks?

>>56206817
A good price is one that will get you to buy it.

Just got my T430. Since I don't have ssd for it yet I tried booting it up. Everythings great but I get battery incompatible message. Is it dead? Any chance of recall?

>>56207146
you have a non OEM or old battery, only the 70+ and 70++ work in the **30 series because lenovo is a jew

>>56207161
Its a 55++
Have I been jewed?

>>56207201
55+ wont charge. There is a mod you can do, but i dont know much about it besides it existing. See if its a recall battery at least. I got some 70++ ones when i did that shit.

>>56206754
You need raspberry pi, actuvated SPI ports on it and flashrom.
You need programmer clip if you can't desolder bios chip, or if you don't want to fuck up with flashing by connecting wires to each other.

How to clean the keyboard on a W520? Should I remove it first?

>>56207235
Thanks, I'll check it out.

I'm about to buy a mint-condition T450 for $550. I know it's not the same build quality as T450s, but I won't be throwing it around too much.

Is it worth it, /tpg/, or is the quality that much worse?

>>56206746
I just pulled the trigger on an x220. I've been looking to do some coding on the go. Getting cabin fever in work. Otherwise I'd have went with the t series.
The potential for grabbing the massive slice battery with jiggafucks of power while still keeping it all pretty portable appeals a lot to me.

Purchasing a ThinkPad for work, and using External GPU for gaming, anybody doing that?

>computer falls off lap, in a low chair
>barely survives, the screen almost comes off and the screen coming off violently makes the computer unusable in a way that Lenovo won't repair
Why is Thinkpad so shit?

>>56207146
Means the fucker who sold it put in a T420 battery

>>56206647
Is x61 with 1400x1050 screen worth 180$? Perfect condition btw

What was the original price of a t520?

>That feel when you buy your mother a T410 for less than £100 because she needs a cheap laptop
>Its better than the T410 you spent £150 on two years ago

Time to upgrade
what model of thinkpad can I get that I can rip the screen out of and put an actually decent panel in?

I have an e545 and my child spilled water on the KB making some keys stop working. Can you replace KBs on these or am I fucked?

Would it be wise to replace the old hdd in a used thinkpad (just in case, because the old one has a higher chance of breaking)?

>>56208761
i always recommend an ssd over an hdd to customers especially if their snotty kid keeps fucking up the laptop by dropping it and shit.

>>56208741
Did some googling and it looks like I can buy a replacement KB for the e545 so that answers my question.

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Hey, anyone know where I can buy a replacement sticker/vinyl for image related? As well as that, also looking for any shop for genuine ThinkPad spares (Been buying parts from Aliexpress for a while)

Also, any general mods which I could do to my W520? Currently got 16GB RAM + 256GB Msata + 500gb &1TB HDD.

>>56208921
(UK Based)

Can you put a T420 keyboard into an X230?

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>>56209069

x220 or x230?

TPG shilling - https://discord.gg/q4udwHn

>>56208186
14.1" T61 is getting harder to find, but not worth $180.

>>56208741
Consider replacing your child.

>>56209168
X230 unless wireless AC is an absolute must.

>>56209168
X230. You can find them on eBay for about ~300 in great condition.

I've had problems with graphics performance and wifi strength with the T420. Anyone have similar experiences. I've been thinking about getting something with stronger internals like an i7 with SSD.

Rumor in the german TP forum has it, that javi has a new revision of the t420/t430 edp converter board in the pipeline. Seems like he solved the flickering issue. But production will start in the beginnig of sept, after the g20 summit.

>>56209599
Graphics performance is mainly do to the dGPU and iGPU showing their respective ages. Wifi strength is an anomoly - never had any issues with that on my machine.
Get a T530 if you want a quad i7 machine

>>56209607
If this is really the case, I may end up getting a nice 1080p screen for my T420 rather than getting a newer machine. That will greatly boost the longevity of my machine as the shitposting machine of choice.
However, I may end up adding a X230T to my list of toys

>>56209639
>recommending the T530
Wew.

Helo guys, just received my t460p, great device so far.

Can I remove some of the bundled thinkpad software? I noticed it uses cpu at random times.
I got it with no cam so as long as function keys and fingerprint reader work I won't need that stuff.

>>56209651
Well, stronger dGPU is nice isn't it? What would you recommend with a full quad i7 and a dGPU?

>>56209655
I meant

>lenovo active protection system
>lenovo solution center
>lenovo system interface foundation
>thinkpad settings dependancy

>>56209678
Anything but a Chinkpad, that's for sure.

>>56209599
Are you using linux?

Hasnt happened to me but ive heard of wifi issues due to drivers.

Anyone know where I can get a new battery and ssd for my t420 for cheap? Do the cheaper ones not work as well?

>>56209678
How about
you know
W520 or W530 for their dGPU ?

>>56209767
I don't like to cheap out on batteries. I find that they hold much less charge and they get wonky at lower percentages. It isn't uncommon to see a cheap battery drop immediately from 10% to 0%.

SSDs vary. You'll just need to do your research, I'm afraid. ;_;

>>56208002
eGPUs have might have low reliability because of the various connections between the card and the laptop.

On eGPU adapters such as EXP GDC there are two discrete connection points between the card and the laptop, and when either one of them gets loose, the card drops out entirely, and you have to restart the game, assuming you haven't already BSoD'd.

On PE4C 3.0 there is only one, so the probability of crashing is lower.

>>56209800
Oh that is too real. I've even had that happen at around 30%. The fucking worse is that it ends up shutting down instead of hibernating.

>>56209771
Aren't they significantly more expensive? I would get one myself, but it's fucking hard to find a cheap one with the FullHD panel and the 2GB dGPU

>>56208002
>>56209866
That said, it seems very few people have complained about eGPU instability. Perhaps it is just me, or everyone else has it too but doesn't like talking about it

t. X220 w/ gtx580 via expresscard

>>56209914
So are you saying it's shit or is it worth it?

>>56209969
I'm only telling you my personal experience.

Ultimately it's a decision you have you make on your own.

I'm not Austin Evans - I won't make an essay titled "Is an eGPU worth it?".

Read on others' experiences if you want to make a more informed decision. The Tech|Inferno forums' eGPU board is your best resource atm.

>>56208026
Can't complain though, I got it for real cheap plus seller said battery wasn't tested.

>>56209893
>Aren't they significantly more expensive?
Yes. But they're also significantly more powerful.

The Quadro K1000M you'll find in most of them is apparently equivalent to a 640M. Not sure about the higher-end K2000M, but you can look that up yourself.

Dell Precision models are probably worth looking into too, specced and priced roughly the same as equivalent Thinkpads.

Where do thinkpads end up on the cycle of new hardware? I recently saw nvidia release a new line of laptop gpus and am wondering when such things would show up in thinkpads -- even new ones.

Sorry I'm not too great with computers, but what changes would I see if I get an SSD?

>>56210103
just do the EC flash and it'll charge it

>>56210166
Well I switched to an SSD and my wife left me and my dog died. So there's that.

>>56210166
>>>/g/sqt

What is the newest release Thinkpad you guys recommend?

>>56210273
The one you can afford.

>>56210273
T61. Unless you're a casual.

>>56210309
>>56210311
Shit, allow me to rephrase.

What is the best currently supported Thinkpad that Lenovo has on their website?

>>56206647
Is the T400s recommended? I'm looking for an intro into Thinkpads and I like the form factor.

I know about the 1.8" hard drives, I would just use a mSATA to 1.8" adapter for an SSD.

I know it's not the newest in terms of spec, but I'm limited by availability (third world) and how much I want to spend.

>>56210327
Lenovo will probably jew you on their website. The T440, maybe.

>>56210327
The one you can afford while meeting your desires/requirements.

Do you want a mobile workstation with a fuckload of horsepower and don't care about price or weight/size ? P70 is your nigga.
Do you want a thin and light ? X1 or an s-suffix model is your nigga.

As long as you don't go for the cheap budget E-series or whatever they're called these days. T, W, X, or P only.

I'm thinking about dropping $250-300 on a Thinkpad X230. Thing is, I don't really need a laptop but the consumer whore inside me wants it so badly.

All I'd be doing is typing, browsing and using Lightroom, and there are ample computers all over campus.

Are there any real reasons to get a laptop?

>>56210109
The power difference is not really significant enough to be worth the W series premium. You would want to get one mainly for the quad core and the beautiful screens.

>>56210173
How? Link me up please.

>>56210368
Not at all. You should save the money if you don't really need it. You'll also probably spend a bit north of $300 on a X230.

>>56210363
Thanks my dude.

>>56210363
>P70
What a fucking best. Shame I'm so broke.

>>56210173
>>56210378
nevermind found it.

>>56209599
Same ;_;

t410 struggling to get decent video to 1080 external monitor.

>>56210395
x230s are going for just slightly above 250 nowadays
hell my friend even found an x230t for like 275
>>56210336
just get an x220 for the same price you'd spend on that old t400s and the adapters

>>56210173
How do I flash just the battery mod? Don't want keyboard remap.

>>56210173
fuck it says 2.57 bios, won't it work with newer version?

Thinking of going with this one, is it a smart choice?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-p50s-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i7-8gb-memory-nvidia-quadro-m500m-1tb-hard-drive-black/5486406.p?id=bb5486406&skuId=5486406

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>>56210109
Not 100% sure if this is good or not, desu. 14" T420 is still comfy as fuck, but if this machine can handle light gaming I might want it

do you think that 40€ is enough for brand new genuine 9cell battery (44++)?

X220t for $135 sounds alright?

MTM 4299-D77

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>>56210952
I swear to God I didn't type in "desu"
Does this board now replace nigga with desu? Or did I type nigger? I already forgot...

>>56210952
I'd say it probably depends on what you think of as light gaming, but mostly I think it should be able to handle it.

That said, I haven't personally seen a K2000M in action, and I haven't seen any really detailed benchmarks of it. But given that I've had plenty of success running (the old) Killing Floor on my T520 with only the Intel HD 3000 iGPU, I'm fairly certain that the K2000M can handle light games, such as CS:GO, DOTA, LoL, and what have you to an acceptable (60fps, maybe low settings) degree.

>>56211005
Kek

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>>56211005
desu is replaced with desu desu. It's been like this for a while.

>>56211046
I've never really used desu except when texting my homo friends. I guess having spent more time with them as of late is affecting my text. This is no bueno

>>56209743
Not him, but using Wicd on xubuntu and it gives me a 'bad pass' error when i try to connect to a wifi network that i know is correct. Did some googling, but couldn't find much, tips or suggestions?

>>56211027
I was hoping to push my luck and try to force a heavier fighting game down the dGPU's throat. Or perhaps play a bit of No Shill's Sky and get a feel for it. I know that for the game I really want (Elite: Dangerous) I'll need to actually dedicate time and money into a decent rig, but a full time job gets in the way of such flights of fancy.

Anyways, Hawken is probably the most intense thing I play, and the QUADRO on my Blazeit seems to handle it (if only just)

Is it worth getting an i7 6700 / 6700k over a 6700HQ in a notebook for /3/ stuff? price difference is 300$

>>56211046
LOLOLOL had this happen to me a while ago and I came back to the post a day later
fuck man

>>56210655
You'd change all the .patch files in the folder to .patch.OFF and change the one related to the battery auth from patch.OFF to .patch.

Essentially, make the battery auth one the only valid .patch file in the folder between steps 6 and 7, IIRC.

>>56210761
Not 100% on that, unfortunately. Maybe somebody else will know for sure. I don't actually think it flashes the BIOS at all, just the embedded controller.

Did the ec flash, everything went fine but I get an orange battery flashing light so I guess its dead.

>>56211098
>I'm a fucking faggot please rape my face

Meant to say NVS 4200M
Quadro was a card on my old laptop

>>56211138
>>56211150
Thanks for your help.
I still need to buy a new battery.

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>>56211027
That K2000M sounds pretty good right about now...

About to buy a T430 with 500GB HDD i5 and 8GB RAM for about $240 USD. Is this a good deal or should I wait till something better comes along?

>>56211177
>>56211150

You never know. I got an X230 with a genuine X220 battery, so I was in the same situation. I bought a new battery anyway and the EC flash came to my attention sometime later. After flashing, it charged my x220 battery and it was 90%+. I had expected it to be fubar since it'd been completely discharged and stuffed in a drawer for a year but it bounced back. Credit to genuine batteries.

How can I find out if my thinklight (x201) is actually broken or it's just a driver issue? Running Mint, I heard it should've worked out of the box..

>>56211619
thinklight is handled by the bios

just replace the LED

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>>56211212
2 weeks ago I got a W520 for $250. 500GB HDD i7 and 16GB RAM. Also came with a dock. Yours looks like a good deal but there are always better ones.

>>56210336
>>56210613

They're selling a bunch of T400s for about $100 - the only X220 on the classifieds currently is close to $300 equivalent.

Can anyone suggest a good travel case or sleeve for a T450s? I'm starting grad school this week and my laptop will be spending a lot of time on public transportation, so I'd like to get something to help protect it.

Why are chinkpads so shit holy fuck?
So I've got a cheap 1st gen Helix after using X61 tablet all day every day for years (also using T61 frankenpad and many other ThinkPads in the past)
Keyboard dock connector is like half actual windows dock api half "fuck it we plug and play now", at any time when I dock or undock it keyboard, mouse and/or charger may fail to notice that and it would require a random amount of reconnects and reboots to fix, shit happens especially often when connecting during sleep.
3.5 input fails to detect headset mic and/or requires some weird-ass high impendance headset or something.
Apparently all that is common "yeah we know about it" issues, present on multiple chinkpads.
Also base unit USB ports position is full retard, you have to reconnect all usb devices when going from tablet to laptop mode.
Adding to that shit keyboard (best of its class they said, very comfortable to type they said, who needs 7th row they said) I am very very disappointed.
Is there really no device that's a true upgrade to X61t with decent screen resolution?

I wish I had an excuse to buy a thinkpad. I really want to buy one and install Arch on it but I never leave my house so I wouldn't use it anyway.

>>56212417
I very rarely leave the house besides work. I have 3 ThinkPads. I use at least 2 everyday.

>>56212417
just because you don't leave the house doesn't mean that you can't own a laptop.
shitposting from bed with a laptop is comfy as fuck

>>56211347
You were right, its charging! Thanks, f4m.

>>56212444
>I use at least 2 everyday.
What do you use them for? I can do everything on my desktop so I think it would be a waste of money

>>56212489
I would love to do that but I don't want it to be full of dust and overheat

>>56212519
unless you literally never clean your bed that will take years for that to happen
especially when only using it for browsing the internet.
also it's really easy to clean them out

/g/ plz help


I posted this about a week ago but need more confirmation that I am a smart consumer.


I bought a t510 that I will use for grad school with the following specs.


-i7 620M

-8GB DDR3 @ 533 mhz

-Nvidia NVS 3100M w/ 512mb vram

-500gb HDD (Adding 240gb SSD soon)


I will be running the following programs, most likely concurrently


-MySQL Server

-MySQL Workbench

-Tableau

-Pentaho Kettle ETL

-SQL Server Express/SQL Server

-SQL Server Database (AdventureWorks OLTP and DW)


The schools website said I should have an i7, 16gb ram (lol), and a 1gb graphics card.


Plz tell me I will be okay and not have to buy a w520.


Thank you /g/.

>>56212552
Alright, I'm actually thinking of buying a T420 for browsing the internet.

>>56212563
You do need a shitton of ram for any serious database work tho

>>56212563
you don't need a w520 to have 16 gigs of ram
a t420 will do 16 gigs just fine
and unless you plan on using that in production (ie the real world, not you dicking around in college) then it will be plenty.
although a t420 would have probably been a smarter choice

>>56212605
Yeah I figured that too, not sure why the school says 16gb lol. Mostly concerned with the graphics card as the visualizations night be 3d but tableau isn't that crazy.

Also wondering if the processor is worth it's salt.

>>56212642
it's a 1st gen core i7
a 2nd gen core i5 is just as fast
it's not that fast, but it will be fast enough

>>56210988
What are the differences of the X220t to the x220?

Same tenperature?
Missing features?
Worse battery?

>>56212669
Thank you my prend

>>56212691
Anon t means tablet

>>56210988
looks good
>>56212691
>Same tenperature?
T runs a little bit hotter under load
but not by too much
>Missing features?
no not really, but it is a bit bigger
>Worse battery?
a little bit.
I think the x220t only has an 8 cell battery because of the hinge, but battery life is still 7+ hours normally

Is the T460 shit?

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>>56212507
Cheers, m8. Glad that worked out.

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Please /g/ help a retard out.
I need a laptop for CS college. I will be using Linux and VMs on it.

Should I:
> buy a T420/X220/T520 for +/- 200$ with no warranty
or
> get a piece of shit random laptop from the store with 2/3 years warranty for the same budget
or
> try to find a refurbished Thinkpad with warranty included?

I'm buying the laptop online and I can't check it in person with the seller. I also need the battery to last more than 2 hours.

I'm not that familiar with laptops to be confident in my fixing skills if something breaks.

>>56213011
buy a used thinkpad without a warranty
unless you are an absolute idiot you don't need a warranty on a good computer
and pretty much the only thing a warranty is good for is infant mortality of computer parts.
so if everything is working good now, it will most likely continue to work well into the future

>>56212519
I have a W520 that's permanently docked to a home recording set up, an E550 (not a ThinkPad, I know) that I use as a media player, and a T530 that I mostly use for shitposting.

>>56208002
I do this every day.

Docked T420 + eGPU setup, any questions?

>>56213011

T420 or T520 if not just for more screen realestate. The X220 is stuck at 720p without some odd modding, while the T420 can be 900p and T520 at 1080p. All 3 are able to last over 2 hours(lol?) X220 runs a little hotter, specifically i7 version.

Sounds like I'm making the X series sound bad, it's really not. If the resolutions doesn't bother you, and would prefer the smaller form factor, i'd say go for it.

>>56213011
I got refurbished with warranty, shit was like new no complaints so far

>>56213011
I bought a T530 and I'm very happy with it. As long as get a good price, then I'm sure you'll be happy. They're also very easy to service. a consumer laptop with warranty often needs to be sent in, and then you're stuck without a computer for anything between a few days to a month.

>>56213052
the thing that worries me the most about used ones is the battery

what proof can I ask the seller to see if it's not dead? any recommended tools?

>>56213132
I don't care much about the resolution, I think I'll grab the better deal if I'll have to chose between different series

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Just found out that my uncle's X201's battery was recalled. He uses it on AC only, so I gotta have a free 6cell.

Hey /tpg/, how much of an improvement was Sandy Bridge over Arrandale? I have an opportunity to buy a 1600x900 T410 with the i5-540M for 120 Canadabux, while the T420 units on eBay all seem to be going for around $200. Battery life is not very important since my university has power outlets all over the place.

Post your idle temps!
I'm in a library with the AC turned waaay up.

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Fan:         3345 RPM
Core 0:       +35.0°C  
Core 1:       +39.0°C  
APS:          +46.0°C  
Batt 1:       +33.0°C  
Batt 2:       +34.0°C  
Nbridge:      +43.0°C  
SSD:          +38.0°C

>>56212417
I used to think like you, then I got an X series and now I come up with excuses to take this thing everywhere because it's so cute and portable.

>>56212742
Great, i hope there is nothing wrong with it because its really cheap.
I wasnt able to find a IPS x220 so i hope this will do.

My T410 gets really hot. Is there a way to start diagnosis before opening to inspect the fan?

>>56213857
just unscrew the keyboard and take a look, it takes no effort at all

if you're gonna blow compressed air at your fan, make sure to hold the fan in place with a pencil or something, don't let it spin freely while blasting air.

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>>56213588

Should I take the display resolution into consideration when buying a T420? Is 1600x900 much better than 1366x768 or doesn't it even matter?

>>56214046
It depends on the screen size.
At 12 inches or less, it's fine, at 15 inches it's basically unusable.

>>56214065
*1366x768 at 15.6 inches is practically unusable.

>>56214046
It IS much better but the viewing angles are still crap.

Anyway the original screen doesn't matter that much since it's piss easy to upgrade the screen and you can resell the 768p meme screen easily because everything is 768p.

>>56214065
>>56214089
>>56214097
Thanks. So I should probably get the 1600x900 one at 14 inches, right?

Also wouldn't it be a bit expensive to buy a new screen?

Is there a real usability difference between 2 and 8GB of ram?

I have my swap on my SSD.

I hate my macbook pro retina and want to replace it with a thinkpad because I want a nicer keyboard to type on (don't want to plug in a mech... looks autistic). What model would be the closest to the macbook specwise, but still has the old, deep keyboard?

Ideally, IPS display too. No budget either, open to any suggestions

>>56214159
I personally wouldn't worry too much about the screen resolution on a laptop.
I'm used to much worse.

so, anyone with an NVS4200m t420 play overwatch here?

>>56214159
Yes you should look for a 1600x900 screen but if you can't find one you can upgrade it.

I paid $60 for my screen and hd+ cable and sold the original screen for $35 on craigslist.

>>56214170
What are the specs of your macbook, bait master?

>>56214229
I will look for a 1600x900 screen then, thanks.

>>56214168
Yes, huge but 4GB should be enough.

>>56214263
Does it increase heat or reduce battery life if I go with 2x4GB ram?

>>56214237
Honestly not baiting, I want to fix this issue. But I have the early 2015 13" retina, model number a1502.

I was thinking about buying a T430 and just upgrading screen, HDD -> SSD, RAM, CPU to beef it out so it can handle a little bit of 3d dev, mostly webGL stuff.

I just want a trustworthy laptop for uni when I start it, but it also has to be able to handle my own projects.

>>56214168

I wouldn't think about getting an SSD without at least having 4gb of ram, or even 8.

>>56214170
xx20 series are the last to have non-chiclet KB, and xx30's keyboard may be replaced with an older one.

>>56214293

Technically, but in application, no.

>>56214305
get a w530 and be a badass.

>>56214339
Very nice. So just to clarify, I can swap the t430 keyboard with a t420 keyboard?

>>56214375

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>56214374
Oooh, this doesn't look too bad. The HD 4000 graphics still look decent today as well. How is the screen on this model?

>>56214375
You'll need to sand it a little and reflash the EC, then you're good to go.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

>>56214407
>>56214447
Very nice, saved this for when I buy a t430/t530

>>56212742
How many SATA slots does the x220 has?
Can you put 2 SSDs on it other than using the mSATA?

>>56214652
1 full sized sata 6gbit slot
and 1 msata 3gbit slot
exactly the same as the normal x220

>>56214675
Thanks.

What is a good price for a t530 in the UK?

>>56208921
>>56209055
Nobody?

>>56215018
I'm guessing your best bet is to buy a broken model from ebay and salvage the sticker. Bit of a waste of money, but if you can find a very cheap one, you should be good :)

Are there any issues with keeping the fan at 7 other than noise?

>>56212563
Senpai, relax. I doubt your college programs require all that much horsepower.

The LPR systems running at the company I work for supposedly require a quad core i7 with 8GB of RAM minimum
And yet it's running fine on an old Pentium quad core and 6GB of RAM
Those "minimum requirements" are usually full load balls to the wall bullshit

>>56214426
The screen on the W530 is probably one of the best TN panels ever made. Fantastic colours and viewing angles. But a much lower resolution than the 15" retina.

>>56215225
you will get more dust in the computer
it will consume slightly more power
and the fan will break sooner

Does anyone know if the X61 tablet has an accelerometer in it? Been trying to set up automatic screen rotation in Linux for a while, and I just realised I don't even know if my system has a sensor for it.

>>56216327
no it doesn't
I don't think my friends x220t even had one

>>56216344
What about Active Protection System and Active Rotate? ThinkWiki lists both as being used in the X61.

>>56216369
that's in the hard drive

>>56216344
>>56216380
There is one and it works in windows. Sensor is located near hdd and it's primary purpose is emergency parking, but it's a legit standalone accelerometer.
No idea how to make it work in linux

Late reply to
>>56206226
I'm willing to blow upwards of 1500 for a refurb/new/like new model. I plan on using and abusing it for the foreseeable future; even with the thinkpad's durability, I don't want more than a couple years of my machine's longevity used on some other John.
Assuming I can get the exact specs I want,
P50 or W550/530?

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>>56207393
Not too sure on backlit keyboards, but T6x era keyboards can be washed or bathed in a sink.

Just give it a two days to dry up, or one day and blow dry it the day of and right before inserting it.

>>56208741
Theres a chance dirt got into the traces which is why your keyboard isn't registering keys.
Dunno if you can get to the greenboard of the E series but I clean the contacts with isopropryl alcohol

>>56209607
Hopefully so, I felt bad for RMS on his last order, so I don't know if he will take another shipment in bulk again.

>>56209686
active protection system is just an accelorometer for your hard drive in case it falls.

dunno what interface is, some thinkvantage crap? Same with settings dependency.

I think solutioncenter is like help bullshit..

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>>56210372
True, unless you need CAD or software that benefits from quadro graphics, a W-Series isn't needed.

Only the quadcore models are worth getting over a T-Series, because at least they have 4 RAM slot instead of just two.

>>56210775
>3 Cell battery
It comes with a 5400 RPM drive, most likely WIndows 10 Home as well...
Might as well get a used W550s for half the cost t b h

>>56212167
You could always get a toughbook tablet lol

>>56206647
should I sell my t420 and buy a t430
or just get a 1600x900 screen for my t420?
I kinda want the dgpu of the t430, but really I don't need it because I h ave another laptop that is far better than t430

>>56213505
IMO its not worth spending 80 more hockey pucks.
Its more of a graphical improvement, but 16:10 aspect ratio is nice, plus T420 screen went to shit in brightness.

>>56215726
Slow down, one FHD panel is plagued by being a bit too blue in hue and has vertical lines.

>>56217260
P50 may hit $1500 quite easily, I don't doubt used models will look too bad.
Some W550s start at $600, and decent spec ones at that.
W530, I had sold one for $500 after a few upgrades, paid $250 for it.

>>56212167
>Is there really no device that's a true upgrade to X61t with decent screen resolution?
Sure there is.
It's called X1 Yoga.

Just spent $50 for a T520 from someone who totally looks like they're on /g/ yo hmu

>>56218003
How much would you pay for a Toughbook CF-52? I've been trying to sell one

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>>56218328
>yfw thinkpad money went to booze
if I wanted a laptop, I'd get one from work. :x

I got a t400 with a 128GB SSD and 9 Cell Battery and Charger for 60 bucks.

Good deal?

>>56218418
I'm asking so I have an idea what a fair price is. And you can get free work laptops? Can you get your hands on more Thinkpads?

>>56209607
Fuck yeah. Time to get an Nvidia'd T430

>>56209168
X230. Now that the keyboard can be modded in for 99% effectiveness (only two Fn combos doesn't work but are easily mappable in the OS anyhow) the X230 is a hard upgrade in every regard.

So, my family wanted to get my little sister a laptop so i told them to get her a t420s bc she would use it for school and probably some emulating and minecraft or whatever.
I'm not entirely sure what it is she did to it but the conclusion I've come to is that it needs a new hard drive and no one in the house wants to spend the money on it so i think i might have to, because i was the one that recommended it in the first place so that's just how they see it.

Ultimately I'd like to know what/where can i get the best to lowest(price) hdd for her t420s.

Does anyone have any experience with NewEgg's refurbished ThinkPads? I'm considering buying https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16834319687

Need help. First of all, i'm not an idiot. (hopefully)

So i bought a x220t and i cant get the digitizer to work in windows. Actually wont even show up in device manager, The tablet buttons work though, but after disassembly, i found that those are unrelated, but do come back to the MB on the same ribbon cable. Wacom's update tools doesn't even see the device, Everything looks like its in good shape during teardown, i re seated all the connectors, still no luck with this digitizer. Running windows 10. Anyway for me to test outside the OS? or did i buy a x220t and just got a x220 swivel?

TL:DR X220t, need digitizer help.

>>56219229
Dude HDD are the cheapest they have ever been thanks to SSD.

Amazon/Newegg nigga

>>56219340
>windows 10
You need wacom drivers, like bamboo iirc

>tfw i want a D30 but im too impaitent to save up like the poorfag i am

Now I'm looking at d20s and s20s.

might just get a S20 and call it a day

has anyone here dual booted hackintosh and linux on X220

>>56219611
Tried that, from lenovo and wacom separately.
"A supported tablet was not found on the system"

Is the error i get from every single one.

Ive spent all night on this and im just going to ask the ebay seller for an exchange. This is gay.

>>56220071
Try some *ubuntu. Mine worked out of the box with xubuntu.

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would this express card work on a Linux distro?

What battery should I get for my X220?

>>56220489
9 cell with the 6 cell slice battery. only way 2 go m8.

>>56220203
I don't see why it wouldn't
pretty much anything older than year works fine in linux
>>56219693
my friend did a hackintosh with his x220, but it's nowhere near the experience of an actual mac.
and just running elementary OS will probably be a better experience.
>>56219630
>desktop
just build your own

>>56217260
Yo I got a P50 last week with a Xeon, Quadro M2000M 4GB, 16 gigs, 500gb HDD (will get an SSD later) for $1311, excluding taxes. I used the corporate discount code.

coil whine on my T420 I7 is annoying me heaps (didnt happen on i5 at all) , could I fix this by purchasing capacitor glue and gluing down noisy parts?

>>56213588
58C

I'm in an AC cooled lecture room with about 10 tabs open

>>56220657
>just build your own
its cheaper to just buy a xeon workstation then it is to build one with the same exact specs.

>>56220733
buy used parts
besides the cpu you can usually get them dirt cheap.

>>56206647
SERIOUS QUESTION

What's the latest AMD memepad T or X series?

I'm still using a x100e over here because jews

>>56220751
adding it all together its at the price of this without shipping when i havent even added a case or sound card. For a dual cpu system, its probably cheaper, but i just want something to run 4 monitors on and my T420 is enough for my every day use so its not an issue regarding specs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172303742302

So it seems like the T460P dosen't seem to overheat from leddit and /g/ contrary to the notebookcheck.
What's the build quality verses the T430S?

I want an ultra portable laptop with a good screen. I'd purchase an X230, but I'd like more than 1366x768; even with the IPS option I'd prefer more. The X240 seems perfect, in that at least I could buy a FHD IPS screen, but the price jump between the two models, even with base-ish features is saddening.

Are the Dell and HP equivalents any good? There doesn't seem to be the same kind of community behind them, so I haven't had the same information exposure while researching. They seem cheaper in general though, for those exact reasons, perhaps because they don't have the same dogma around them.

>>56220657
>pretty much anything older than year works fine in linux
lies. I have plenty of older wifi cards that does not have linux drivers

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Hi /tpg/

>>56215215
Oh, the sticker, I wouldn't mind buying from China/Aliexpress... but I've not been able to find anything yet. Any idea as to what it might be called? I looked on the Lelnovo service manual but couldn't see a 'part' name/number... not even in the misc section.

is the x220t a meme? Should I just get an x230?

>>56223497
Get an X320. Fully sick.

HOW CAN I STOP THE CPU MAKING SOUNDS EVERY TIME I MOVE MY MOUSE

T420 WIN10 HERE

SORRY FOR SHOUTING BUT ITS REALLY LOUD

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>>56224166
SAME ON W520!

>>56223497
Yes. You get a better CPU and the keyboard is perfectly fine, it even has a backlight if you're into that.

>>56224166
>WIN10 HERE
lmao

>>56224166
THE CPU DOESN'T MAKE SOUNDS! ONLY THE FAN! STOP BEING A FAG AND GET WINDOWS 7

>>56224541
UR WRONG! CAPACITORS OR INDUCTORS ON THE MOTHERBOARD ARE WHINING DUE TO VIBRATION! ITS NEAR THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE KEYBOARD, AWAY FROM THE FAN!

IT EVEN HAPPENS IN SLEEP MODE FML

THIS DIDNT HAPPEN ON MY LAST THINKPAD

>>56224683
I'd say that you'd better get away from it asap then. Preferably before it blows up.

>>56224698
ITS VERY COMMON
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_high_pitch_noises
TELL ME HOW TO FIX

>>56224736
I AM LITERALLY GOING TO SHOOT MYSELF IF MY LAPTOP KEEPS MAKING NOISE LIKE THIS

>>56224736
>how do I fix
>posts article that contains solutions to the issue at hand
Seriously?

>>56224748
I DON'T RUN LINUX
AND T420 IS NOT MENTIONED ON THAT PAGE
THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK

>>56224746
YOU CAN TRY TURNING OFF INTEL CPU STEPPING TO PREVENT IT FROM GOING INTO DEEPER SLEEP CYCLES DURING IDLE BUT RIP BATTERY LIFE. WORKED FOR ME ON A DIFFERENT OLDER LAPTOP.

OTHERWISE, GOODBYE ANON WE HARDLY KNEW THEE

>>56224917
GOOD NIGHT SWEET PRINCE

>>56223260
model?

Finally broke down and ordered a T460p. Gonna run Arch on it, anything I should be wary of? I am aware that there's no support for the fingerprint reader, but AFAIK most of the important features, like suspending and power management shouldn't be too terrible.

hello /tpg/ i have an x131e that i received from my school, it's got a babby celeron in it what can i do with it in term of operating systems? hackintosh?

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>>56225478

>>56224166
Nothing you can do about coil whine. I get it on my T420 too.

e545 fag here again. I figure if I'm replacing my KB I might as well upgrade RAM and HDD so what key words am I looking for when shopping for such? Am I pretty much good with any "laptop" RAM or SSD?

anyone have an issue with their trackpad stopping randomly while using it?
inb4 >trackpad
I use the trackpoint too, not exclusively though, it gives me a cramp

>>56225865
Any SO-DIMM RAM will work, anf any 2.5" 7mm will fit, watch out with 9mm ones.

>>56226270
Nice; Thank you. Much better than replacing my child.

best replacement battery for an x220t?
i get 30 mins usually when it isnt charging..

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Anyone have any recommendations?

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Bought a T450s with Winshit10 installed and new it's giving me "Getting Windows ready" bullshit and I can't do anything else
FUCK

Does the x220t use the same battery than x220?

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/sys/5733307069.html

Should I?

>>56226874
can't spell Michael correctly, wtf

ThinkPad P70, i7 2.7ghz, 32gb ram. Nvid quadro m5000m

T530 with dock $250
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/sys/5686043487.html
T61 for $125
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/syd/5711057405.html
X130e for $125
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/sys/5701051262.html

What should I buy?

>>56227540
T530.

>>56227571
Fucking hell that's expensive. Alright, let me call the nigga up

>>56223260
elitebooks are nice but do they make em in comfy sizes?

>>56220657
by experience do you mean how well the OS runs as in speed, or how the computer itself is compared to an x220, as in the trackpad, weight, etc? thanks

WHAT THE FUCK DO I NEED TO DO TO GET A GOOD DEAL ON A T420 ON EUROPE
HOLY FUCK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE

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>>56223260

>>56228595
no

I want a laptop but my needs are a little weird.

Needs:
Big enough screen to play movie for 2 people.
Ability to connect to my Bluetooth speakers.
Able to play games like Factorio, EU4, and Kerbal. Nothing crazy.

Wants:
When I install Linux everything works.

Don't Care:
Battery life and Portability. I'm just getting a laptop because I live in a studio.

Why should I get a think pad and which one?

>>56218535
Not him, but I once got three T420 units from my old office when they were moving, because "these laptops must be old and terrible". Unfortunately they were all 1366x768 screens, so I just sold them for around $200-$240 a piece. Still, it's amazing that the company was so lackadaisical about the shit they owned. Generally, working for a badly managed company is a good way to get free Thinkpads I would say.

I also got a bunch of Dell Vostros hanging around the e-cycling bins in my old building. Sold those for $80-$100 a pop.

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Should I go for it? (176 yuros)

>>56228868
seems like a good price for euro bux
does it not have the nvidia graphics though?
I thought all 1600x900 t420s had nvidia

>>56223260
How are you liking it? Seriously considering a move to the Elitebook after all the shit Lenovo has done to the Thinkpad.

>>56229061
>I thought all 1600x900 t420s had nvidia
I just looked it up, all T420s have either an Nvidia or Intel graphic chip. I'm gonna go for it though

>>56229109
if it's nvidia only just remember that it takes a different bios
and like all of the white listed bioses for wifi cards are for the nvidia
but I have one that worked with my hd 3000 only t420 so I could send it to you or put it up somewhere if somebody wants it

Is it worth buying the T460 because of its battery life?

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is this a good deal?

>>56229603
yes

>>56229603
Yes, investigate how truly minor those scratches are though - that's a steal.

>>56229593

If you want insane battery life, the x260 is the way to go. However it's rarely worth it to but new, only reason is to get full use out of the warrenty. Most people only buy new because they can write it off as cost of buisness, not personal use. Buy a used 50 series if you want something newer. If it must be 60 just wait a few months, 70 series shouldn't be too long from now, and you might be able to get one used.

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>>56229820
they are not noticeable from the pictures

>>56229820
do you know a good place to get a new power chord that wont burn down my house? thanks

Got some neetbux. Could I play csgo on an x220 or would I need an x230?

>>56229931
Make sure the scratches are not on the display.

>>56230089
Why dont you get a off lease workstation and a lowish end gpu instead?

>>56230089
x30 and up

Runs like shit on low with the hd3000, maybe the nvidia dgpu t420 works better but dunno if at playable level.

I'd get an x220 + egGPU though

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>>56230101
I don't see any

>>56206647
What is the maximum amount of ram I can put on a T60?

>>56230291
read the OP description

>>56230291
Probably 4GB, DDR1

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>>56226874
Holy shit I got an actual buyer!

>>56230291
4 but you will be limited to 3 and maybe some change due to a chipset limitation

>>56229603
>Power chord
>Chord
So it can't play Metallica?

>>56208628
T520 takes a full HD (original Lenovo part)

>>56230322
all of them have ddr2

>>56230126
I have a desktop which is preddy gud, I just need a portable cyka blyat and shitpost station
>>56230159
I will look into that, I have an r7 250 lieing around that I could make use of. Thanks anon

Is $310 a decent price for a t530 with a i5-3320M and 900px screen? Only has a small crack in the palm rest, but it's fully working.

Other specs: 4GB RAM, 320GB HDD + Win7

>>56230384
What's the catch?

>>56230033
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/music_styles/punk_rock_music.html

all power chords here

>>56230567
About time someone made that joke!

>>56230418
I guess not, too bad I was really looking forward to listening to The Black Album. ThinkPad speakers are awful anyways

>>56230567
I already know the power chords, thanks though

just got an x220

It's so small. how the fuck do you guys get anything done on this? I feel like I'm squinting.

No way I could do any serious coding on it. Am I missing something?

>>56230858
a DE without window decorations, and possibly an IPS screen and/or glasses

Is the W530 much of an upgrade over the W520?

Would I notice much if both had the same screen, and I replaced the W530 keyboard with one from an xx20 model? It seems that the W520 is half the price of the W530 on ebay. Is it worth it?

>>56231397
I don't know the answer but I was in your position 2 weeks ago and went with the W520. No ragrets.

>>56231532
Very nice, I will probably do the same thing to be honest. I don't think the W530 is worth it, and I would have to upgrade(...downgrade?) the keyboard, which would mean that some of the keys would not work.

I think that upgrading the screen would be a much better option, and it doesn't cost that much for 1080p.

>>56231666
I don't mind the chiclets so much anymore. The T530 grew on me. You might not need to do the upgrade. I think I saw some FHD ones up there. Ave Satanas.

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Today I received the replacement battery I ordered for my X220T. On eBay it was listed as "brand new genuine Lenovo", and it wasn't cheap enough to be suspicious, but when I received it a few things didn't seem completely right.

At first glance I immediately noticed that the labels with all the information were obviously cut by hand (and rather clumsily at that), and weren't consistently glued to the plastic. It didn't come in a Lenovo box btw, but I figured that was possible.

When I plugged it in and checked Lenovo's battery management thing I also noticed a few discrepancies. The label on the battery says it was made by Sanyo, while the battery tool says LGC. The FRU and bar code numbers don't match either.

Pic related.

Also I could've sworn the cycle count was 190 for a full minute after I plugged it in, to then change to 5, but that could just have been a glitch or something.

The seller on eBay was a40m. He has a 99.9% rating and 1700 positive feedback in the last year so I figured he'd be trustworthy. When looking at the listing again, I also notice the battery in the picture looks a bit different from the one I received (and exactly like my original battery).

So, am I being paranoid and are these things perfectly normal for some Lenovo batteries, or is this indeed a fake? I know both LGC and Sanyo make genuine batteries for Lenovo, so I'm not sure.

>>56231732
Yeah, some FHD ones on ebay now, but the asking price is 500-1000. I think it's probably better to get the w520 and just buy the $80 FHD display and upgrade it myself.

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What are some Thinkpads?

>>56231885
I bought one of those but for my T420, let me guess it's says "enother" instead of "another" on the label.

None of the serials matched just like yours and lenovo power manager gives me a capacity of 50Wh, However it lasts for like 10 hours idling and 5-6 hrs approx watching movies which looks legit for a 9 cell and the only issue i've seen is that gets stuck at 100% for a long ass time either charging or discharging so my guess is that it's a legit made battery but they flashed a generic firmware or something on it which reports wrong capacity, serial and everything.

I still opened a dispute and got a refund of half what i paid since it wasn't original at all but the battery itself works just fine.

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>tfw the thinkpad youve orderd has been in the same state for the past 3 days

>>56231961
Some Thinkpads are better than others

>>56232695
that's deep mate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH18_dZIYOE

>>56231961
I see you opted for the premium IBM neverending-box-of-poop accessory. Mine came with a free cat too.

My T430 has very low sond volume on linux, but on windows it boosts a decent level, what can I do?

>>56227702
What's wrong with 12.5?

>>56229103
There's only one real reason to choose the X220/230 over the 2560/2570p and that's the IPS panel.
If your choice is TN vs TN get the EliteBook, if you can do without USB3 and the 3rd gen Core i CPU then get the 2560p, it's the same thing but with classic screen locking mechanism instead of magnets.

Comparing it to the X220 since this is what I have most experience with
X220 has the better keyboard, but the Elitebooks isn't bad
X220 is slightly quieter under load, but even the Elitebook doesn't spin up its fan when you're just shitposting either
X220 is slightly thinner
EB has better build quality, and you can get to the guts via a single sliding door
EB has an optical drive X220 doesn't, you can replace it with a 2.5 caddy and even configure the two disks in RAID 0
EB takes 9mm HDDs
EB has better sound quality from the built in speakers, possibly even from the audio jack
EB has glass touchpad which is very nice to use, X220-s touchpad is only there for people who can't use the trackpoint
2570p has an issue where Aggressive Link Power Management is disabled leading to higher than it would be otherwise idle power consumption.
I've managed to get mine down to about 5.5 watts, and 7 when watching a youtube video in Edge.
These Elitebooks are kind of like a cross between a thinkpad and a macbook.

Why cant I find a size comparison picture of the t4y0 with the x2y0

i'm replacing the thermal paste for my t420

i heard the GPU has a thermal pad on it that I should keep instead of paste, is this true?

Someone posted a ThinkPad on a local Craigslist, a W510 for $350. Specs are below:

Windows 7 64bit OS
Intel Core i7 CPU (Q720 @ 1.60GHz)
16 GB Memory
Seagate ST500LM000 500GB 5400 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" Laptop Thin SSHD
NVidia Quadro FX 880M Graphics Card (1600x900 resolution)
TouchChip Fingerprint Coprocessor (WBF Advanced Mode)
Integrated Camera
CDRW - DVD Multi Burner
Intel Gigabit Network Connection
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 AGN Wireless Card
SD card slot
TPM (Trusted Platform Module)
Conexant SmartAudio HD
New 9 cell battery with cycle count @ 79
Docking station
(2) 135w power supplies

I've been on the lookout for a W520, but I live in a pretty remote area and this is the first time I've seen a ThinkPad on the local Craigslist this good. Does anything else think this is a good pickup? I'll probably get some SSDs and a FHD for it. I'll be using Slackware as my distro.

>>56233757
seems nice, especially with the docking station and 2 power supplies

>>56233862
Thanks for the affirmation. It really does seem like a good deal. I emailed them about it, the pictures were kind of dark so I asked for a picture of the keyboard and palm rest under light.

>>56230564
Gotta meet him in person and get paid in cash

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We 1000 nit display nao.
Display needs to get calibrated, a bit too yellow.
Eh 1.6GHz SL9300 not that bad.

>>56207459
If anything the quality should be the same.
Plus you can swap to IPS FHD without any issues, unlike the base T440.

>>56208025
Thats why you should of bought a MacBook.

>>56208186
Tough say.
I kinda like my X61T but it has a sort of glitter or glazing effect on it because of the glue it uses.
if it has a SXGA+ X60T swapped in, yeah, get it.
Mine started getting bubbles after 4 months of having it, its very noticable nowdays, dont have a photo of it sadly.

>>56208628
T440p
T/W540 may have some issues when it comes to upgrading displays, you might need a new lid/hinge/bezel for them, because some screens are 15.4 or 15.6" I think.

>>56233740
Typically I keep the pad on there, and ad some thermal paste on top of it
Yolo

>>56232176
Hate it when that happens, thats annoying as shit.

>>56232925
Its a linux thing
same problem on my T430s.

>>56231885
Probably recelled...
Doesn't matter what batteries OEM uses, you can buy them.

>>56223260
Middle click is essential for me.
Loved the 8760w when I had it, shit was cash.

>>56228865
Its all written off, so it doesn't matter.

>>56218535
I don't know what CF-52's go for...
I put $200 to $550 for the MKIII via dankpads site.

>>56234027
just ask to see it first, check out the LCD and check the USB ports. Also check the frame and maybe check the battery holds charge if that concerns you.

i bought a yoga 14 two weeks ago and I love it. I put arch on it and i have no regrets

>>56235793
Yeah, I'm making a list of things to check. It'll be a two hour drive so I wanted to make sure before I commit.