/mkg/- Mechanical Keyboard General

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>>55989145
but apple is gay

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Pexon cable came presumably broken. Doesn't power the micro controller, and seems to cause other things also plugged into my pc to not work.

I am 0/2 with custom cables so far. Fuck.

>>55989233
dude it's 2016, being gay is cool now

Why did it have to be the "The Amazing Chocolatier"? I keep wanting to cop an SA set but when I have the money they keep coming out with shit color schemes.

>>55989451
U missed out on pulse

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well it's not an apple but this sexy fucker is a meme too

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>>55989664
one day I will on this board

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>>55989688
new video when

Just ordered a Zhuque for $60. I find this funny because the set of Zealios I have ordered cost $100ish and the EnjoyPBT keycaps I have are worth $85. This quickly became more than the cost of a non-Type-S HHKB.

I got a blue switch Ducky Zero One second hand for 40 bucks. I'm happy with it but it's missing one of its flip out keyboard stands. Where can I get a replacement?

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I bought it from my work, but I've come to find they're very popular on here.

>>55990587
how much you get it for

Best and cheapest place to get rubber o-rings? How thick is too thick (in your opinion)? I ordered some 5mm x 11mm x 3mm for $2 from a chinese eBay seller but I'm a little concerned about the dimensions. Thoughts?

What's the failure rate on mechanical keyboards, in particular, the ducky shine series?

I've had nothing but shit luck with new keyboards so far and the cheapest one has lasted me the longest, so I'm looking to enter a different segment in the market where maybe, just maybe it'll last as long as this thing.

>buy qpad mk-50 in 2011
>replace with quickfire tkl in 2014
>stem on w key breaks, switch wobbly and unresponsive. RMA
>back to mk-50
>replace with k70 in august last year
>barely makes it to september, pcb failure, RMA
>back to mk-50 with a level of wear that it cannot handle

>>55991154
ebay those chink ones are good boutique manufacturers overprice them, and >3mm is too big

Any recommendations?

>Budget
$130ish
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
Cherry black or clear
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
maybe if it's not obnoxious
>Previous/current keyboards
https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathStalker-Expert-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B009SJR28W/ lol it was a gift

>>55991625
Don't buy gaymur shit.
>>55991696
KUL ES-87

>>55991680
Is 3mm on the dot fine? Yes I bought some chink ones. But I dunno how long it'll take to arrive.

Unicomp EnduraPro y/n?

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Aluminium case for Shine 3 TKL? I'm gonna paint it (enamel white w/ brown caps), so colour doesn't matter, but I can't seem to find one that can accommodate the USB placement. I'd rather not mess with moving the USB connector, so does anyone know of one that's already compatible.

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>tfw special snowflake colored key caps
>tfw colors other than gray or black
>tfw useless tiny keyboards
>tfw skull or otherwise shaped escape keys

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>>55993280

>>55988005
i do a lot of programming, and i have a swedish keyboard layout where the curly braces { } are awkward to type, so i have them on dedicated macro keys on the left which i can hit with my left little finger without leaving the home row. perhaps i could reuse the ÖÄ keys since i don't use them when programming, and maybe i could use caps lock and the key above tab for copy/paste, but i will have to think about it more before i get a keyboard without extra macro keys. i don't want to switch between layers or just key combos just for curly braces since i use them so much when programming.

>>55993537
or maybe caps lock for left curly brace, Ä for right curly brace, Å for copy, Ö for paste. hmm...

a while back i saw anon do a nice project, sanding keycaps one by one and the end result was real nice, anyone got links for that project? there were quite a few pics and some detail about how he did it etc.

the keycaps were black on the sides and semi-opaque white on top iirc

Any recommendations?

>Budget
As cheap as possibru
>Location
USA
>Preferred switch type
Any cherry
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
The Dell keyboard that comes with their business computers(my department had extras so I snagged one)
>Other Comments
I was really looking for something that was small and inconspicuous that is in that off grey or light charcoal, and I wanted to then put some off white and colored keys on it to make it look vtech af.

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>>55993808
like pic related?

>>55993808
>>Budget
>As cheap as possibru
well your not gonna get cheaper than this unless you buy a used keyboard: https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Water-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1470747543&sr=8-4&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

This board uses switches made by Outemu but branded by Gaote, which are some one of the better cherry clones out there. Plus its water resistant

>>55994042
he asked for cherry switches though

>>55994054
You're not a real gamer unless your keyboard has GENUINE Cherry MX switches

I want this cherry meme to end. Gateron makes better switches then cherry and outemu comes pretty close in quality.

>>55994109
i actually prefer gateron but he asked for cherry.

>>55994037
I don't think that would work since cherry ml switches have a different stem then the mx ones, and he said wants to put his own key caps on there, which wouldn't fit

>>55994660
sorry for not asking correctly, i wanted to know if he wanted a layout and colour like this.

I've just got my tai hao set. It's just me or they have a different sound compared to pbt keycaps?
I have mx blue.

Any place that sells Topre keycaps, that aren't just the modifiers?

>>55995231
you missed out on these ones, but look around for others
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/custom-topre-keycap-set

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Bought one of these for $84

>MX black
>standard full size
>no macro keys
>no illuminated keys
>only noteworthy features are the thick braided cable and usb and audio ports

Was it a good buy?

>>55995392
for 5 bucks less you could have gotten the same keyboard layout with similar build quality and a white back light, but no wrist rest, so I guess its what you value more

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any good 60% keyboards that don't cost 100 bucks?

all I could find was this (30 eurobucks)

>>55995875
here in the states we have 65% keybaords for around 30 dollars, maybe try looking for those.

>>55995875
not mech and I used one by the same brand like 10 years ago
it became extremely mushy

Anyone have experience with a Realforce 55g? I'm thinking of picking one up.

>Budget
~€100
>Location (continent at least)
Ireland
>Preferred switch type
MX Brown
>Layout
ISO I guess since that's the standard here.
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
I'd prefer LED's so I see what I'm pressing in the dark.
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently have a dogshit €10 keyboard from Tesco.

I was looking at the Ducky Shine 5 that was on the /mkg/ recommended list a few months back but it costs €177 here which is pretty fucking expensive for a keyboard. I am using it for gaymen but I will need it for college and shit which requires a hefty amount of typework.

>>55996335
I believe the ducky one/pro is cheaper and even has macros

Anyone know how to fix a bricked mechanical keyboard?

The computer won't recognize it anymore and only registers as a composite usb device, probably due to corrupted firmware and official firmware updates do nothing to help.

>>55997182
you could get a new controller such as teensy

>>55994109
Sorry, I was ar work. I'm hoping someone else could pick up. At least when I started gaming, the only mechanical keyboards that had decent ability tk switch keycaps was cherry, I'll check out gateron, I just assumed the market was still like a cherry monopoly

>>55999108
Holy shit that's one botched solder job.

>>55999108
why do you keep posting this pic?

>>55989664
I have one, paid $1000 for it.

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>>55999433
Yeah, I slapped it together over the course of an afternoon, not my most elegant attempt.

>>55999452
I dunno, why wouldn't I post things related to the thread topic?

>>55999108
>those joints

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55999540
why do you have so many keyboards? what do you do for a living?

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>>55999569
I have an irregular weekend job and almost no living expenses since I live with my parents, though I'm currently looking for a flat to share with a friend and I'll start working in November.

>Budget
90$
>Location (continent at least)
Denmark, Yurop
>Preferred switch type
MX Brown
>Layout
Nordic
>Form factor
100% or 80%
>Backlight
doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Nothing good.

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redpill me on the $50 monoprice

>>55999569
That's like 300 dollars of keyboards, you really think that's a lot of money?

>>55999947
More like 600 or so, but yeah, it isn't that much given that I accumulated them over the course of a year

>Budget
The less, the better
>Location
Portugal
>Preferred switch type
Cherry/clones, quiet ones highly preferred
>Layout
ISO preferred, but I know I can't be picky
>Form factor
Full size
>Backlight
Yes, blue lighting preferred, but not mandatory
>Previous/current keyboards
Some no-brand rubber dome one
>Other comments
First mech keyboard I'm buying, no problem with getting a chink one.

>>56000192
Magicforce comes in full-sized now, not ISO but that's probably better if you plan to upgrade caps down the road.

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HGDKJK4

Blacks are a bit stiff, but you might be able to find reds elsewhere.

>>56000192
>>56000425

Here you go, free shipping to Portugal and reds
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/All-New-Magicforce-Crystal-108-Key-Baclit-USB-Wired-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Gateron-Switches/32667970090.html

>>56000425
>>56000485

Thanks for the tip anon, I'll check those out.
Keep'em coming if you have more.

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Does anyone here knows the "Rantopad MXX"?
They're listed as Gaterons for $80.
aliexpress.com/item/Rantopad-MXX-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-87-Keys-Gateron-Blue-Switches-with-White-Backlight-Pure-Aluminum-Top/32588550160.html
https://www.amazon.com/Rantopad-MXX-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B0186RTDZQ

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Look at my keyboard. My keyboard is amazing

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where yall ricers at

>>55993280
>hating a good color scheme
>hating fun
>hating utility and efficiency
I'll give you the last one.

>>56000425
>>56000485
Any actual experience with those?
I've had some bad peripherals form aliexpress. 3 mice, one failing to register some clicks, two borderline possessed.

>>56002833
>>56000192
Get a decent brand/switch.
Most of them are blues, so you really need to dig until find a good looking brown/black/red. You can start with this one, budget with Outemu switches.
http://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Drevo-Gramr-84-Key-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-White-Backlit-Wired-Mechanical-Keyboard-Black-Switch/32685552791.html

Also, http://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Plum87-gateron-mx-brown-blue-mechanical-keyboard-RGB-backlit-TKL-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-87-tenkeyless/32598358025.html

>>56002833
Myself and many others have with the original Magicforce, this is a brand new full-sized version.

Those have been awesome quality for a budget board, with Gaterons especially. I don't see why adding a numpad would change that. Top case is metal, switches are well-mounted and backlight can be disabled.

>>56002917
Did you really just say "get a decent brand" and recommend Otemu Drevo over a Gateron Magicforce

>>56002935
Yes.
>Preferred switch type
>Cherry/clones, quiet ones highly preferred
Cheap magicforce from ali use outemu blues, m8

>>56002955
>"Wired-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Gateron-Switches"

>"Gateron Switches"

Wow reading iz hard, "m8"

>>56001518
>fun
Meaningless buzzword.

>>56003015
Do you even research/read bro?
>blue
>budget, the less the better
>post a US $88 link without any proof from buyers
Sure, m8 go ahead
Cheap magicforce is actually $49~70 / Kailh.

>>56003067
Now you're just going full retard. Magicforce has more users here than pretty much every other chinkboard.

gtfo with your no-name drevo trash and bad reading skills.

>>56003096
ad hominem
:^)

>>56003096
>search for magicforce
>bunch of kailh in product name
>one gateron listed almost $90
>same price as Ducky
>not really a budget
You're retared, my friend. Go shill somewhere else

>>56003125
'The fuck cares what you searched? The Gateron version was linked like 20 posts ago.

>>56003125
>retared
hoo boy.

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I recently ordered this thing.
It's my first mech. keyboard. Nothing too complicated, TKL with no backlighting.
PBT keycaps, too.

How did I do /g/?

>>56001269
Looks good I guess, but the light doesn't really make a lot of sense without transparent letters.

>>56001140
No foldable feet. That's a no-no to me. It has a nice price, I guess. But it's a bit too tacky imo, and without adjustable positions it might be uncomfortable.

>>55989282
Contact Pexon. They're known to be pretty chill about replacements, to my memory.

>>56003397
Not a bad buy as long as you didn't buy it for over $90

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>>56003509
Welp.
$105 anon, plus shipment.
It was the best I could find that was shippable to my country and wasn't too flashy (I'll use it at work).

According to the dealer I got it from (mechanicalkeyboards), it's an oddity that ducky shipped to them. I'm still happy with the find, let's see if it I'm still am when it arrives.

>>56003397
It's like you went with the least offensive option to appease /mkg/ posters. Not bad. What switches?

Got ~$50 to spend on a keyboard.
Should I risk a mechanical one from aliexpress or get a cheap rubber dome one from a local dealer?
Do they even make rubber dome keyboards without numpads?

>>56003577
Well I got this keyboard from them and its coming in three days. Its my first mechanical keyboard and I don't know what to expect
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1685

>>56003630
kek
Actually, I wanted a black Ducky One TKL with no backlight, but the store had nothing left with Brown Switches, and after looking for anything related I found the white one.
It wasn't in Ducky's website, so I emailed the store asking for more details. They told me it was legit, so I bought it.

I chose the browns because they make sense for a first buy, and they won't annoy my co-workers.

>>56003656
if you want a cheap mechanical go for any of the budget monoprice boards. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=13788&gclid=CPaT2-PZtc4CFUMfhgod8IMBPQ
This is just an example

They are still descent 8/10 keyboards but with that low of a price don't expect anything to be premium

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>>56003675
pic related

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>>56003675
It's the same as mine anon, but with grey keycaps and it's a full board.
Let's hope they don't suck.
Yours looks nice, too. Good color scheme, I think.
Here's mine: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1765

>>56003656
I'd save a bit more and get a $90 model with original cherry MXs. If it's your first buy, make sure you don't regret it.

>>56003706
Can't get monoprice here. Not without expensive shipping.
Eastern EU. Most stuff sold locally is polish brands.

Not expecting anything premium. Mostly wondering if a mechanical from aliexpress would perform well enough or if I'm better off getting a domed one.

>>56003825
Aliexpress is fine if you buy a board people here own from a reviewed seller. (Zhuwue, Magicforcem Redragon etc.)

>>56003877
Any more specific names to search for?

thoughts on razer tournament edition?

>>56004229
Razer sucks, and I hate it.
Still, it's a cheap RGB keyboard, so I'll give them credit for that.
I still wouldn't buy it though.

>>56004280
>Still, it's a cheap RGB keyboard, so I'll give them credit for that.
it's not rgb it's the tournament edition bud

>>56004096
Wew sorry, on mobile and I hamhanded Zhuque and Magicforce. Noppoo, Plum87 and IKBC are a few others.

>>56004296
Oh, no LEDs?
Then it's expensive for a TKL with Tahli switches.
The ducky One costs the same, as some other decent keyboards. The Coolermaster Masterkey (or something like that) is around that price (maybe a bit more) and is decently built.

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>LEDs in a keyboard other than status LEDs for caps lock, scroll lock and num lock

>>56004363
It really helps when you are using a new layout and all the lights off. They came disabled by default and I was typing like a retard, but after I turned them on I could type again

>>56004363
>not wanting the option to be able to see shit in the dark with illumination which could be tastefully dimmed and subdued
nice sour grapes

>>56004363
They can make sense, but RGB keyboards are just too much

Anyone know if Motospeed Inflictor CK104 is any good? Seems very cheap for full rgb mechanical.
www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Motospeed-Inflictor-CK104-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Backlit-RGB-Apr27/32657550084.html

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>>56004421
>can't touch type
>on /g/

>>56004462
i touch type but i also use the mouse and my smartphone and hence i want to be able to locate my keyboard quickly in my peripherial vision because i'm not a neckbeard NEET

>>56004498
no, you're just a moron with no spatial awareness. do you type with your monitor off too?

>>56004455
The last time I bought something from china it never shipped and i never got my money back so there's that, but looking at the transaction history it seems that these guys might be reputable

Why isn't there a clicky version of cherry clears? Someone should get on this, they're the best feeling switch, but I also like annoying noises.

>>56004533
>do you type with your monitor off too?
wtf?

>>56004533
and why would you intentionally make it hard to see your keyboard? you're fucking ridiculous form-over-function fetishists, it's a fucking tool get over yourselves

>>56004666
>>56004694
'cause when my room's pitch black, I always go for the keyboard first.

not the monitor or light switch

>>56004421
Why is it dark at your desk? having your monitor as the only source of illumination is hell for your eyes.

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>>56004363
>having a dedicated caps lock
wew

>>56004734
>having your monitor as the only source of illumination is hell for your eyes.
nice meme

if you have ambient light sources that glare on the monitor or don't match the color temperature, THAT is hell for your eyes

>>56004772
I wish that there was some place to let me try one of these just so that I can understand why they cost so much

>>56004778
I have my monitor by a window, and use warm light + redshift at night. Can't be beaten.

>>56004850
i have my monitor in front of a window, but i have a proper CCFL-backlit monitor that spreads ambient light on my white walls and table, maybe with a shitty flickering LED-backlit monitor it would be an issue

>>56004823
find someone local. or try out a topre heaven.

>>56004890
I'm also using a CCFL, but it doesn't get dim enough to use comfortably at night without another light source.

>>56004924
no store caries topre keyboards since they are all 200+ dollars here. Believe me I would love to try them out but they are just so expensive compared to alps, buckling springs, and cherry keyboards

>>56004946
mine goes all the way down to 36 cd/m2, i have it on 8% which is around 50 cd/m2

>>56004498
>Reach out in front
>Feel for bumps
Where's your keyboard, up your ass?

>>56004967
Forgot to add even funky switches like space invaders and omrons cost less

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>>56004967
dunno where you are, but amazon has topre type heaven for 156 on prime. also I'm sure someone around where you live has one. check the forums and ask to test it out.

>>56004998
it's obviously faster to reach for something you can see you retard

>>56005061
Well where is it if not right in front of you? You shouldn't have to look for something if you know it's going to be there.

Is the MK Disco any good? Don't plan on buying one but I'm curious about it, doesn't look like they come with Cherry switches though.

I just got my Novatouch the other day and decided to mod it with some DIY landing pads. Everything went okay but after putting the board back together, the escape and right arrow key don't register. New to topre and I'm not sure what is causing this. The membrane lined up fine... Anybody run in to some similar issues?

>>56005376
See if you lost any of the springs.

>>56005398
Pretty sure I would've noticed but it's always possible they slipped out unnoticed. I'll check; thank you.

What do people look for in custom keycaps?
Are there any uses for textured keytops other than decorative/ rice purposes?

>>56005648
Dense PBT, dye-sub legends, SA or DSA profile, and no fugly fonts.

Not really, they just end up looking worse over time as the finish wears off.

>>56005121
i'm not actively looking for it, usually i keep my eyes on the screen but i can see it in my peripheral vision, how can you be this autistic, it's not like you gain anything by not having the keys lit, except for maybe if you have sensory overload issues, but you can dim the lights and you have colorful key caps anyway

>>55996169
Yes

>>55999890
>ISO enter with burger layout
for what purpose

>ordered The White Fox with Gateron Clears
>ordered the VA68M with Gateron Reds
>ordered a Zhuque
>ordered 62g Zealios
>ordered a Zealios switch tester
>sitting here with EnjoyPBT keycaps
>FC660M w/ MX Red sitting against my desk
>Poker 3 w/ MX Brown sitting against my desk
>Realforce 10th Anniversary 30g in box behind me
>My first mech, a Filco Majestouch 2 TKL, in box
>Another Filco Majestouch 2 TKL also in box
>typing on a HHKB Type-S
>considering buying and harvesting HiPro keycaps from a 108UG

It's not a drinking or drug addiction and I'm not causing self harm so it's fine, right?

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https://youtu.be/iX8Y4fWgOjw
I really don't know what I'm feeling right now, but it isn't good.

Cherry switches are over rated. Gateron is over rated.
Khail is maymay'd.

Topre, Alps, Buckling Springs, for a superior typing experience.

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>>56004363
>he uses caps lock

>>55999890
>Non-detatchable cable
>Those keycaps

You get what you pay for, that being not great quality with monoprice.

>>56008326
>Acronyms

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>>56001241
Love it but please for the love of god swap the case

>>56008375
How acronym dense is the text that you're typing that you need a method other than the shift key?

Should I get a Monoprice micro USB cable with aluminum headers for my Novatouch?

>>56008424
I occasionally visit /g/. That being said, using caps lock is far more convenient than holding down shift and switching which shift I'm using every other letter.

>>56008453
>switching which shift I'm using every other letter
Are you missing a hand or something?

>>56008382
where do you get a case like that? ive always wanted to swap mine for something like that

>>56008473
I would like to avoid doing single-hand shift+letter contortions as much as possible.

>>56007358
Are you a free grown ass man?
Do you wanna do something that pleasures you and doesn't harm others freedom?

Then do it as much as you can.

>ordered an ergodox in march
>should ship in late august, according to massdrop
>fast forward to 1 month ago, new job offer
>in another country (not really that far, tho)
>job starts on 1 september
>should relocate ASAP
I swear to god, if that keyboard will come while I'm away and those faggots who will rent this home after me won't notify me I'll convert to Islam and go full allahu akbar on them.

>>56000192
>>56002917

Thanks, but I didn't say it yesterday, I'm not getting anything less than a full size, since I make a lot of use out of the numpad.
I understand I'll have a lot more options if I switch to ANSI, what options do I have then?

>>56008664
Reported

Also,
>$150
>MX Red
>ansi
>tkl
>any
>none of note
Recommendations for my first mechanical keyboard?

>>56008493
mechanicalkeyboards.com or massdrop are where I usually go, but you'll find millions of types and other sites on geekhack or maybe on /r/mk. The Ducky Mini specifically though doesn't need one, the bezel just pops out after a few screws and the case doesn't need much work to clean up afterwards.

>>56009216
Ducky Shine/Zero, CM QFR/QFS, WASD v2

>>56009004

While searching right now I found the Ruyi Bird (RuyiNiao) K-26, but I'm finding little info of it. Anyone has an idea of them?
Apparently they use Gateron switches (which are Cherry clones, right?), as either blue and black switches, sport an either white or black chassis, and I can set the backlight to a single fixed color (thank god for that at least).

Sadly, this is all I could find on them. Nothing on key rollover or even actual confirmation on switch type, for instance.

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>>56009620

Forgot the pic like a retard

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I just got this old Chicony KB-5191 keyboard with Cherry MX Blue switches.

It had an A-X switch on the bottom, does anyone know what it does?

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>>56009642

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>>56009642
>>56009654
A-X switch on the left.

It also uses a DIN-5 connector, so I have to find a PS2 adapter.

>>56007584
I've actually tried alps. Original ones.
You're just being a contrarian.
They are definitely not special at all.

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>>56007358
Welcome to the club

Just desoldered a Quickfire TK, going to pop gateron blacks in it once I'm home

I'm interested in a left arrow key that is easier to hit because of the length of my index and ring fingers. Any DIY method to extend a key or place to buy a key cap like that?

>>56010142
are you sure it's not just grip/technique that needs adjusting

>>55989145
Grandma's radio just died, US there any good chink DAB radios?

>>56009642
>>56009654
>>56009665
AT-XT switch

>>56007358
>just got my 3rd model m
>ordered gateron blues
>ordered pbt blanks
>the previous monday got a chicony with monterey blues
>still have to restore my beamspring and retrobright like 4 or 5 keyboards
you'll never get tired of this hobby

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>>56010244
Well, I got two pictures to sort of illustrate.

The arrow keys on the "hitbox" controller have the arrow button that your index finger uses lower than the arrow keys your ring and middle finger use.

I put a picture of a space bar key that is shaped in a way so your thumb has an easier time hitting it. Has anyone had an experience customizing a key or buying a keyboard button that was like that?

>>56010817
that controller looks horrible but good luck anon, if you know someone with a 3d printer maybe you can make a keycap like that?

is there anything i need to know before buying keycaps or will any mx keycap fit any mx key

>>56011063
Keycaps with mx compatible stems will fit cherry mx and their clones.

Almost any set of keycaps you can find will be cherry mx compatible, there's almost no market for alps or topre keycaps.

>>56009711

Cherry switches are plastic garbage. Plastic on plastic on plastic. Tactile cherry are absolutely disgusting to type on. Lubing helps, but then a Topre feels better anyways.

Alps are better in almost every way. Metal leaf springs, dampened or undampened. Higher actuation point for you gaming kiddies too.

Then we have Buckling Springs are superior over all of them for when you want actual mechanical typing experiences.

It's not contrarian, it's a fact

>>56009711

Blue, Brown, Orange, Green, Yellow? Or do you mean Original original?

>>55999569
>what do you do for a living

nothing, obviously

>>55989282
how the fuck do you type on that thing

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>>56012421
you haven't seen anything yet

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>>56011789
please, alps are overrated as fuck
and matias are just total garbage

>>55989282
literally being this much of a keyboard hipster

>>56012552
ridiculous priorities (caps lock, really?) and why not put some keys next to the bottom ctrl + shift, and why are there two shift keys, i guess the green one is supposed to be a space bar?

>>56012646
ah the pink one is a shift too (didn't zoom in at first), i guess they're stand-ins or some sort of custom modifier keys

>>56012662
its actually part of a kit that you customize. It costs 120 for the base kit

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSca1r0_6b_5h26UjoZoYRMrhwmqD4x2opCTNo06DlgTwt3ZZg/viewform?c=0&w=1

>>56012568
nah, ALPS aren't overrated at all. higher actuation and crisper tactility than cherrys, and a lot less force than bumbling spring.

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>>56012777
why use alps when Futaba switches are superior

>>56012871

WAT. Can people think that? What have you tried? Just simplified black alps or something?

>>56012871
I don't use ALPS, I use beam spring and magnetic reed switches.

>>56012915
personally I like the omron clones of alps switches just because they are so loud

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New key caps this weekend.

Also Varmilo VA68 or Leopold 660?

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Sometime I hate the Japanese
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g185281450

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>>56012777
>muh higher actuation
wow i've never used a switch and thought
"i wish this would actuate .01mm higher, that would make this experience just magical"
fucking punce

but it's all so subjective isn't it?
i can enjoy typing on blacks

why don't you post your alps board you're so proud of?

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>>56013006
>$400
nah
i've seen new in box SSKs for about that much

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>>56013018
You need to calm down mate.
Pic related is you right now

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>>56013077
fighting autism with more autism
having a blast really

>>56013113
*Click* *Clack* *Clack*

sorry you say something

*Click* *Click* *Clack*

>>56013113
sorry meant to reply to>>56012956
with>>56013235

>>56013006
The last one sold on Goodwill for $700
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/1985-IBM-Model-M-Industrial-Grey-AT-Keyboard-29074934.html

Black square labels are second in rarity only to silver label for full-sized industrials.

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>>56013258
Fuck I even forgot the image again. I can't do anything right

>>56013113
you sure enjoy being noticed and flirted with by men on mongolian throat singing boards :^)

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>>56013504
if only

>>56013530
Well if you beg I might indulge :^)

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>>56013277
amber and yellow omrons are just comically loud.

at least the white ones are more subdued to the level of cherry greens or so.

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Rate

>>56013845
>>>>/out/

>>56013845
Is that thing even functional or just a display stand for artisans?

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>>56013845
can someone explain this meme to me

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>>56013845

>>56013898
people bidding on their own items or for friends to inflate market value

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>>56013898
so is this what you manchildren spend your autismbux on

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>>56013898
Very high level memes

>>56013929
ebay fees are probably ludicrously expensive though

>>56013957
there are ways around those by offering second-chance buys to another account ($5 or some bullshit value)

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2emzrs/clack_factory_clickclack_dark_side_vader_keycap_mx/
http://www.overclock.net/t/1318833/wow-this-key-sold-for-250-at-geekhack-those-dudes-are-crazy/30

fucking bullshit, these people should kill themselves, it would be easy as hell to make keycaps of excellent quality and design and sell them for $10-20 each or less

>>56010817
Best option looks like a custom 3D printed cap. Models of keycaps of all profiles are available online, and you should be able to easily modify an extension onto one (it'll probably only be a simple shape) and find someone to print it. If there's nobody local, maybe try shapeways.

Good luck!

>>56014056
>sell them for $10-20 each or less
that's not too far off of what they cost at first anyway, these are resales

not that it still isn't shit to change someone $20 for $0.50 of material

I really want this autistic market to crash

>>56014056
As someone who at one point worked with injection molding, the machines are expensive. For example the injection molds for a sony ps3 controller costs at least half a million dollars. My guess is that these keys probably need to be sold at 20-30 dollars in order to become profitable, but 200+ is just a fucking joke

>>56012986
What board is that? I've been looking for a decent 60% ISO board for ages, and can't find one. I mean, yours is probably one I've seen before but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also VA68 because not having an arrow key gap would drive me up the wall, doesn't look like something I could adapt to.

>>56014109
>>56014158
it's the reason geekhack is such cancer these days. can't stand it either, and hope it burns every single shitbag that buys into them.

>>56014165
Fair point on the arrows keys. I wonder if I would be cool with it after using a 60% for a while.

It's a pok3r with some cheap tai hao abs caps on it.

>>56014158
maybe you (literally you) could do a kickstarter, design some keycaps and take suggestions for designs, and point out your experience with injection molding, and people will pay in advance and then you can set it all up to have them made and shipped

>>56014180
>>56014109
>>56014056
>>56013898
So what exactly happened?
What did geekhack do for the prices to get so high?

>>56014234
seems like some/most of them are legitimately rare and the scarcity of the genuine ones from specific brands is the main driver, but then there's the unscrupulous ego-massaging social engineering like this:
>#13 Cherry Corp red doubleshot Esc key. Good luck ever finding one of these on your own. You will officially be in the keyboard elite with this. $250

>>56014234
just general circle-jerk faggotry around clacks and brocaps. people shitting up the forums with reddit-tier posts for karma and dick waving.

they even witch hunt anyone that resells them for a higher price, unless it's the creators themselves.

> Budget
200€

> Location
Norway

> Preferred switch type
Cherry brown, blue or red

> Layout
QWERTZ

> Form factor
full

> Backlight
nope

> Previous/current keyboards
Filco Majestouch 2

>>56014201
That's a good thought actually. I've been using a TKL for a good year now, and a board with custom modifiers and F-keys and stuff with normal arrows before that. Maybe being on that pok3r for a while would make it a non-issue, given that you have to fudge around to get arrows anyway.

Interesting.

And cheers. I'll have to give the pok3r another look. After something a bit smaller I can get before uni. IIRC they're pretty simple to disassemble and paint, which is a plus. Going for enamel white and SA Chocolatier keycaps on my next board I think.

MX Blues or Clears for a portable keyboard?

>>56014228
fuckin hell its a lot of work man. My engineering professor had us make a simple toy and that think was a huge pain in the ass, and it looked like shit too. Not only that, but you also want me to start a business where I have to deal with people and hundreds of thousands of dollars. No way man, who know though if I can convince my professor to help me I might do something

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=cds_redesc
>$3.50 each
lmfao and someone paid fucking $250 for one

>>56014283
Clears so you aren't an obnoxious ass with a loud and annoying keyboard,

>>56014287
if you can put together a team that would be great, could boost your credibility on the kickstarter presentation and you'll offload some of the work onto others, and you can hire some manufacturer and shipping company to deal with the grunt work

>>56012710
I would really like that, but it isn't worth the money and I don't need it.

Is a clueboard a good first build? 65% is the layout I want, and the clueboard looks like the best option for that.

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>>56014341
There's cheaper options with that kind of layout, though I'd also be picking up a clueboard if it wouldn't run me 180 bucks.

>>56014435
Yeah. My current parts I've decided to use will run me ~150 us. But after using a MagicForce 68 for a few moths, I know the layout is what I want so I'm willing to spend it.

Any tips on picking the better Topre Realforce weight? Primarily for typing/development, though I also do some casual gaming from time to time. I'm most set on the 45g, but I'd like to hear opinions of 55g and Variable users. Trying it out is out of the question, almost nobody in this country owns one let alone stocks one.

>>56014478
Just remember diminishing returns, if you're expecting a huge jump over the Magicforce you might be disappointed.
Cherry/clone stuff is like that nowadays, but it's still fun to build it yourself.

Best bang for buck 80% chinkboard?

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>>56013845
>>56013898
>>56013944

>>55989145
thoughts? http://shop.wooting.nl/

>>56015140
Im not really expecting a huge difference ( other than some minor improvents with a custom build). More than anything I want to build my own.

>>56015353
Seems neat, not sure if its worth the price though. And its really only good for people that play games, not sure what else you would use it for.

>>56015034
i've seen way more people jerk off 55g
(geekhack) ?topic=74172.0

>>56015353
>a lighting fast keyboard
>Feature proof
>but take more control
>underneath the keyboard for the…
>Gold Plated Braided Cable
They could use an editor.

Will it have an API for the lighting? That's the main reason I'm thinking of just building my own. No one provides a damn API.

>>56015555
>API for the lighting
Real men don't need LEDs in their keyboards.

>>56015595
Real men don't use computers, live in the woods and eat raw meat.

>>56015438
What I'm more worried about is long typing sessions. After all, I am getting it for development, and that means long hours of typing.

>>56015827
Also, HHKB. Is it the overhyped meme I fear it is or is it actually as great as people say?

>>56015827
another thread
(geekhack) ?topic=27992.0

idk, after using mx clears for 8 or 9 months now, the idea that 55g could be fatiguing is insane to me

>>56015886
both

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>>56015886
yes

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>>56012552
I would prefer this.

>>56016575
>two options
>yes

>>56016774
Yes and?

>>56016774
yes

>>56015353
Nice, some time ago I thought it would be nice to have analog switches. Too bad the layout isn't ergonomic at all and PCB-mounted sensors will make making DIY keyboards a little harder. Also, I'm not sure if we can call them mechanical when they're using IR sensor. Supposedly Topre is also working on analog switches.

>>56015417
The only other ideas I have for it would be scrolling and cursor movement.

Or wait, I have a great idea

YOU COULD WEIGH STUFF WITH IT

Need to weigh food before cooking? Just slam that chicken onto your keyboard!

>>56016911
>Need to weigh food before cooking? Just slam that chicken onto your keyboard!

kek

>>56016911
>I'm not sure if we can call them mechanical when they're using IR sensor
Model Ms use a membrane and everyone calls them mechanical keyoards. There's no concise definition of the term.

>>56017095
Even worse Topre switches are just membranes with a spring inside and people still call them mechanical

>>56017170
>membranes
There's no membranes in Topre keyboards.

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>>56017170
That's because too many people equate "membrane" with horrible and "mechanical" with premium.

Anyhow, between expensive Topres and not-quite-exactly-what-I-want Blues and Browns, I can't even pick a keyboard. Right now I'm using a backup daily driver, which is this ancient membrane keyboard I found in my basement. Built like a tank, though.

>>56017170
Topres are capacitive like Model Fs. It's true membranes are a cost-cutting measure used on cheaper keyboard lines, and tend to feel worse all around. But in the end, they're still mechanical.

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>>56017186
What is this called then?

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>>56017318
Wrong image

>>56017318
Looks like a membrane to me.

Now show me where in a Topre keyboard you're seeing that.

>>56017341
rubber domes.

>>56017318
capacitive rubber domes

>>56017347
>>56017363
>>56017396
The switch consists of a slider in a housing over a rubber dome over a conical coiled spring over a printed circuit board. Switches are discrete components, but built as sheets.
The rubber dome provides most of the resistance and tactile feel. (Some Topre-switch keyboards also have differently weighted domes to compensate for individual finger strength, similar to the Key Tronic ErgoForce.)
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Topre_switch

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>>56017186

>>56017205
I just want one of those ancient tank-build keyboards in an 80% format and I'd be a happy coder.

>>56017533
Wouldn't the closest thing be a TKL Realforce nowadays?

>>56017533
http://modelfkeyboards.com

>>56017479
>>56017507
I'm not sure what your point is. Nobody's denying that Topre switches use rubber domes.

>>55992867
Apparently their pointing stick uses a different sensor than a real trackpoint, resulting in an inferior feel. An M13 would be a proper trackpoint, but it's only a trackpoint II and apparently the M13 has poor (for a Model M) build quality.
>being a trackpoint and mechanical keyboard fan is suffering

>>56017986
The Lexmark versions are less sturdy than the Maxi Switch versions, but good luck finding those.

>>56017965
>$300+
Ouch.

>>56018063
Yeah they're mighty pricey, but at least you get a full zinc alloy case with custom colors/caps and all that fancy shit.

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>Corsair K70 breaking, corsair won't rma because no receipt
>Find Ajazz AK33 RGB
>Sold out massdrop
>Amazon won't ship
>mfw I bought from chinese ebay

I can never win.

>>56014258

Clack has blank keys BLANK KEYS NOTHING SPECIAL on his eBay going for $50-$200

>>56014158

These caps aren't injection molded it's just resin pours

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Is this actually a somewhat decent keyboard?

>>56019083
jej

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#thriftstorefinds

Hopefully it actually works, but I'll probably end up putting clears in it and finally not worry about getting a tkl keyboard

>>56014341
Ways in which Zach fucked me, in chronological order:

- Delayed shipment because he dropped the package behind something
- Forgot to include keycaps
- Cut a mounting plate for a FC660 case without checking that it would fit or even that the holes lined up
- Sent 53 switches instead of 70

The first two I let go. The third irked me. The fourth was the straw that broke the camel's back, as it were - now I'm bitter.

>>56019344
Yikes. I mean, everybody makes mistakes but that is kinda wild. Was this early on when they were first being sold?

Anyone else with a Ganss have an issue with the capslock light getting stuck on?

>>56019159
noticed

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>>56011916
Original original.
I found an old keyboard in the tech disposal bin of my uni (I was taking apart printers, looking for coils for a project), and there it was.
I don't remember the brand (leopard? Jaguar? It was an animal name for sure).
Piss yellow, battered. The cord was broken.
But the keycaps (double-shot, real nice) and the switches (old white alps) were good. I tried to restore it, but the pcb was hopeless. I kept it because I wanted to use the switches to build a keyboard from scratch, but sadly someone threw it to the trash thinking it was, well, trash.

Alps are not bad, but I wouldn't really say they were amazing. Maybe the modern replicas are better, but the originals were not amazing, I think.

>>56012986
Leopold.
Apparently the varmillo ping like maracas.

>>56020147
April through June.

Are there any decent guides for lubing MX switches?

>>56021025
geek hack has a whole bunch of guides

>>56021041
Oh of course, thanks

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Purchased a cm quickfire rapid after being recommended one a couple of weeks ago. I decided to take the plunge, even though I've never used blue switches, and it completely changed my typing experience. I installed vimium so I have an excuse to use the keyboard for navigation

>>56021976
my mom has those same pants faggot

>>56022004
Your mom has good taste in pants

>>56022022
thanks

those are nice pants indeed

How good is this keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-920-007857/dp/B01CDYB8F6/

Looking for something around the same price with backlight (maybe) brown/red mx and just a simple layout.

The Quickfire was such a disappointment.

>>56022929
even worse than cooler master. stay away from shitty gaming brands.

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>Budget
Below 70. I know that's difficult but hey
>Location (continent at least)
Usa
>Preferred switch type
Mx red or similar
>Layout
Ansi? Normal? Idk
>Form factor
Full or tenkeyless
>Backlight
Yes, if its not locked to red that would be nice.
>Previous/current keyboards
Only keyboard I've ever owned is pic related. Pretty shitty. Not sure if real mech or no, probably not. Pls no judge

Is the Ergo Dox a meme?

is there any brand that has the standard layout for the alphanumeric cluster but tenkeyless AND without the navigation cluster? and preferably with a matching separate numpad or a combined navigation cluster + numpad device?

>>56023204
You mean like a Pok3r?

>>56023204
or is there a keyboard that is more ergonomic for right-handed people so the alphanumeric cluster is to the right (so the mouse can be closer to the typing area) while the other things are to the left?

>>56023218
yeah like that, looks cool (but it has the cherry meme switches?), but i wouldn't mind having function keys

>>56023258
Noppoo Nano, or a B.Mini if you don't mind an extra column to the right.

>>56023258
(not that i need function keys, pok3r looks fine, just saying that i don't need it to be as slim as possible in the vertical direction)

>>56023313
those look cool, but i need nordic ISO so i guess my options are limited. i think i want a 60% keyboard despite thinking they looked ridiculous at first, but maybe with a separate numpad to the left or in front of my mouse mat. pok3r and ducky have nordic layouts, maybe some others have them too.

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Is there an mx brown keyboard which allows macros recording without 3rd party software (or with on-board memory so that the software doesnt need to run all the time)
?

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sup /mkg/, just received my hasu BT controller and my massive 2000mAh battery wont fit because of this fucker -- can i cut it off?

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Not quite at the bump limit but new thread here:

>>56024058
>>56024058
>>56024058
>>56024058

my keyboard is currently typing 2 different characters on 1 key press 'g' will input 'bg' and h will input 'nh'
is it fugged?

filco majestouch 2 browns

3 or 4 years old now