/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>55967141
I wouldn't mind doing it with ubuntu


but then I'd be using the worst distro

Now this OP image just looks like bait

>>55967206
Sort of real: http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/130891,ubuntu-tries-marketing-slogan-fails.aspx

If I mainly use my computer for vidya, can Linux suffice?

>>55967222
>PC authority
Man I don't know why but that sounds hilarious

>>55967493
depends on the vidya

>>55967493

For indie vidya, you MAY be able to execute it, if they bothered to make a port.

For mayor productions, you probably won't.

If you are skilled enough, and have good computer, you can make virtualization/emulation magic (wine, Qemu) and get it running, in cost of performance.

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Hey guys,

finally after a year of using arch linux on my laptop, the updating broke my install and I don't know how to fix it or where to look for more info.

I did the usual sudo -Syu, then I got a message about the xf86-video-intel driver not supporting something and falling back to d2d mode? or something like that, then suddenly my infinality bundle fonts broke in chromium.

I've tried downgrading the xf86 driver, but wouldn't let me because of some dependency. I've also tried deleting my fontconfigs(fonts.avail in etc) great mistake. Then I reinstalled infinality, which didn't help, then I uninstalled it with -Rdd, which was even worse and reinstalled the default fontset, cairo freetype2 etc. It still didn't work so I installed infinality once again.

pic related.

I have no idea what to search or what I should do, any pointers or info on what do to where to search would be appreciated.

>>55967560
>>55967628
Alright. Probably just going to go with Windows, because I play just about everything I can feasibly get my hands on.

>>55967493
>I mainly use my computer for vidya
lol

Compiling my kernel

I h-hope I didn't forget to enable something...

what do i do anons?
arch linux, laravel installed
laravel:

bash: laravel: command not found

>>55967852
sudo pacman -S laravel

>>55967852
You can't call laravel like that

>>55967863
nigga pls

>>55967874
laravel new site

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>>55967659
I really don't want to do a reinstall, it takes ages to config everything.

You may be SOL

I need two browsers. I know how to switch profiles, but its too much of a pain to have to do that every time I start up. I also need to have both browsers open on occasion.

I already have firefox installed and set the way I like. Is chromium a good choice? I have heard chromium still phones home though - is there any way to stop that?
Am on stock Ubuntu.

>>55967940
firefox and icecat

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>>55967505
>5000x5000

bspwm or herbstluftwm?

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>>55967593

>>55968092
The one I'm using.

>>55968110
That reply only works for "What's the best..."

>>55968092
KWin

>>55968092
dwm

>>55968127
>>55968154
b-but https://raw.githubusercontent.com/windelicato/dotfiles/master/why_bspwm.gif

>>55968172
>how-to-waste-space.gif
bspwm is cool, but it is likely that you will never use most of the features.

>>55968210
>how-to-waste-space.gif

I don't understand. How is that wasting space?

>>55968227
huge ass gaps by default.

>>55968237
>by default

This can easily be changed you nerd.

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>>55967982
>>55967940
I am on 64-bit ubuntu so obviously I grab the 64 bit one, but what are the .sig files?

>>55967659
Any tips?

>>55968288
yeah, stop using a toy OS

>>55968275
Just get the tar file
>>55967659
Reinstall

>>55967659
>>55968288

Yes, stop installing everything you find in the AUR, thinking it's the bee's kness. Also stop using Infinality shit, use a normal fontconfig like everyone else. Enjoy not learning how to program with Python since you're using that awful "Learn X the hard way" book.
HAve fun reinstalling.

>>55967897
Just backup your /home, then reinstall and restore. Also consider getting rid of arch.

>>55967659
>>55967897
>Default i3, urxvt
Shit bait, try again.

Anyone here running KDE? If so, what is your distro?

>>55968237
>not liking gaps
this must be bait

>>55968517
>>>/desktopfaggotry/

>>55968531
>not wanting a nice looking desktop
What is wrong with you?

>>55968553
there is a difference between having a nice looking desktop and wasting half of your screen estate. the main benefit of dynamic/tiling WMs is that there is no space wasted, why destroy that?

>>55968553
People who can't make their desktop pretty usually tell themselves that they don't need it anyway, spouting the "I like it functional" meme.

>>55968575
Because it hurts the eyes. You can focus/distinguish better and faster on windows with some gaps. If you ask me, it also looks also more organized.

>>55968623
you can have borders without wasting space.
everything above 5px is retarded.

>>55968531
small gaps + transparency master race

>>55968237
The gaps are dynamic, you can shrink and enlarge them with a keystroke.

>>55968735
that is a massive waste of time.

>>55968776
jfyi, educate yourself about the topic before you're posting nonsense.

>>55968807
>implying configuring gaps/borders more than once is an effective use of time

Just trying out the liquorix kernel and it seems to make my laptop run hotter. Is that normal for this kernel?

>>55968389
I don't even know what's supposed to be bait about that. Fuck it, I'm saving all my shit and reinstalling...

>>55968365
considered, actually fuck arch I don't know nough about linux to use it as a daily driver and deal with bul

QUICK

KDE or XFCE?

>>55969074
XFCE with kwin

>>55969074
none

>>55969074
Try them both, I prefer KDE

>>55968590
i hate you.

>>55969074
Try them both, I prefer Xfce

>>55969137
:^(

I recently installed Arch and enabled the multilib repo, but I can't install Steam. It doesn't even show up as an option in pacman. Does anyone know how to get steam on arch?

Can someone explain to me the difference between stuff like ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc, and ~/.bash_profile? Which one is stuff for PATH supposed to go in?

>>55969119
>>55969148
This is the problem with normies and linux.

They want to be force fed their only option, not given choices with conflicting opinions.

>>55969227
>I recently installed Arch

Why?

>>55969319
Because I wanted a DYI distro and my linux-fu is too weak for gentoo

>>55969074
KDE

>>55967940
Opera

>>55967897
Reinstalling isn't the Arch way. You should be able to run the same install even for a decade through hardware changes and all. Not knowing what you're doing is kind of the problem when using a distro like Arch. You really should understand your system better if you're going to use it. I can't help because I've never used Arch seriously.

>>55969339
>Arch is DIY

When will this meme end?

>>55969339
Seems like it's too weak for Arch as well if you can't find an answer to this problem.

>>55969350
spring von der brücke tripschwuchtel

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>>55967141
Ubuntu looks like orange microshaft, what's a good linux distro for a newfag? I hear good things about Mint?

>>55969500
Mint is worse than Ubuntu.
>I hear good things about Mint?
Where?

>>55969500
Ubuntu looks nothing like Windows, Unity is completely different.

Hey anons, why is firefox on arch so fucking slow?
When i try to open new page in new tab, it loads like 5 seconds?
wtf is this shit?
>no problem with internet, chromium works normal

>>55969500
If you choose your distro by default looks, you're doing it wrong. You can install any DE or WM on any distro and customize the shit out of them.

I haven't heard much about OpenSUSE Tumbleweed lately. How is it coming along?

That and Void Linux seem to be the best newer rolling release distributions.

cd ~
doesn't go to /home/username/
on xfce terminal and instead creates a folder named ~ or says directory not found
what do?

>>55969119
>>55969350
Isn't KDE the shit we recommend to idiots because it's buggy and crashes often?

>>55969620
if you just type cd it goes to your home directory

>>55969646
yeah but i want to use it for other directories.
for example, instead of typing ~/Documents/folder i have to type /home/ivankaramazov/Documents/folder everytime

>>55969500
Actually Ubunto is the lesser evil. The problem with Canonical is that they have shit politics and aren't very trustworthy, but the distro itself is well maintained. Just make sure to remove the amazon lense. Mint is easy too, but under the hood there are security flaws. There's even a blacklist of packages that may break the system.

My suggestion: Get Debian.

>>55969595
You do realize distros don't just slap a vsnilla install of a DE on top of the base system? Good luck making KDE as good as ir's on openSUSE

>>55969642
The keypoint of KDE is retard-friendly bloat, which is useful for newfriends.

>>55969671
Are you using bash or zsh because on bash the best you can do is define a variable for the directory you want linked
Bash:
~=/home/username
cd $~

ZSH:
alias -g ~=/home/username
cd ~

>>55969734
It's the future. When did XFCE last update? A year ago?

>>55969787
as a noob, i have no idea what you mean. im on xubuntu. the first line of code you give says No such file or directory

>>55969804
>implying there's only xfeces and kde
>using a de at all

>>55969829
Install zsh and you'll be able to create aliases to directories. Bash the default shell on Ubuntu doesn't support directory aliases because they are non-standard.

>>55969620
What distro?
If ~ doesn't expand to your home directory, you have some serious problems. It's standard.

What does echo $HOME return?
Also try a different terminal like xterm.
Also check your .bashrc for errors.

>>55969870
>t. retard who can't read manpages
also
>guy has problem: ~ doesn't expand
>solution: install a different shell
what the fuck?

>>55969919
I can't help the fact that he fucked up his $HOME so I'm providing him with a hack to get it working again.
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25487/how-to-set-an-alias-for-a-specific-file-or-directory

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>>55969870
installed zsh, pic related. i guess ill have to replace bash with it?
>>55969892
xubuntu, fresh install from yesterday.

>>55969919
>t.
What is this meme you keep posting over and over again?

>>55970004
you have to either run the command zsh or replace your current shell with it with chsh

>>55969227
did you pacman -Syu ?

>>55969262
http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_01.html

>>55969500
everything that is ubuntu and based on it like mint is trash tier
Cinnamon is a great DE that can be installed on any distribution.
If you still want to go to mint, just go for it.

>>55969074
try them.

>>55967141
What is the correct way to disable kernel modules? I'm using Fedora 24.

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>>55970031
i guess alias -p ~=/home/karamazov (like the error says) worked.

>>55970074
ah no it didn't. saging. fuck it, thanks anyway.

Hey /fglt/

I have recently acquired a new system with two NICs. Ideally I want the first, eth0, to point to my LAN 192.168.4.0/24, not connected to the internet. The other, eth1, I want connected to the internet.

I have setup the cards on 192.168.4.7, and 192.168.1.36, where my default gateway to the internet, 192.168.1.1 is. And that is eth0, eth1 respectively. However, I cannot ping google.com.

My route table is the following:

default -> 192.168.1.1 -> 0.0.0.0 -> eth1
192.168.1.0 -> * ->255.255.255.0 -> eth1
192.168.4.0 -> * -> 255.255.255.0 -> eth0

any ideas?

>>55970069
This might help:
https://linux-audit.com/kernel-hardening-disable-and-blacklist-linux-modules/

>>55970074
You need to start zsh to use zsh (type zsh).
But srsly, I don't think that zsh will solve your problem.

>>55970074
try $HOME instead of ~
if it doesn't work, reinstall your system

>>55970074
Out of curiosity what happens when you run
ls ~

>>55970098
Are you using a distro with network manager? and have you configured two separate profiles for each card?

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>>55970258
i guess it started working after i typed alias -p ~=/home/karamazov

>>55970074
~ is a shell builtin, it expands the $HOME variable. Which means, if it doesn't expand anything, HOME isn't set (for whatever reason).
Try:

export HOME="/home/karamazov"

Has anyone noticed how firefox 48 has fixed the really inconsistent theming with gtk 3 themes?

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>>55970325
ok, did what you told too. thanks everyone.
surprisingly nobody told me to type something like del c:\windows\system32

>>55970372
my firefox is slow as fuck, dont know why

>>55970394
Do you have https everywhere on the 4chan catalog?

>>55970409
>being a catalogfag

>>55970448
>infinite scrolling

>>55970409
nope

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>>55967141
I am running puppy linux on my x40. I don't have a hard drive, so it loads into RAM. The system is running surprisingly well for only having a single core processor and 512MB of ram.

I want to set up my system how want it and then set up a sfs file to load everything into RAM. I ordered a 32GB CF card to use as a boot drive, so I will probably create a boot partition and a larger data partition. Has anyone else done anything like this?

>>55970466
then run firefox in safe-mode and see if the problem persists.
if it doesn't it means you have an extension or plugin issue.

>>55967141
cute couple tbqh

>>55970372
No, still looks shit all over the place for me.

>>55970393
install gentoo

>>55970041
Thanks for the tldp website. Any other great sites to learn more about GNU/Linux?

>>55970784
Find a book on the Unix file system design and one on linux driver structure.

>>55970808
Any books you recommend?

>>55970471
no, but had a mint usb stick with persistence, the persistence made it run really slowly, if I was going to go the live route, id just use flash memory as storage, music,movies,files ect,

but I really have no idea what im talking about

hows the puppy anyways?

>>55970826
not really, most books on the subject are written by linux file system and driver developers so they provide a good sense of the systems from a developers point of view.

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> double free at [pointer]

What does my kernel mean by this?

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Is this supposed to take an hour? Is my drive totally fucked now?

>>55970894
Did you change the drives partition scheme from an invalid configuration and not reboot the system before writing partitions to it?

>>55970894
ya, ext seems to take longer then fat, id leave it be, probly fine

>>55970920
Shouldn't take anywhere near an hour for ext with a partition that size.

>>55970913
No.
>>55970920
Okay, but it's still scaring me.

>>55970954
reboot your system and try partitioning again.

>>55970964
But I can't cancel it and it says it will fuck up my drive if I force cancel.

>>55970860
It is surprisingly fast. The javascript captcha brought the system to its knees though. I had to disable it otherwise the browser would freeze and I had to kill it. I want to get more text only programs working, so that I can do things from a tty. Puppy was one of the first GNU/Linux distros that I used when I was 7, so it is fun seeing all of its quirks again.

>>55969520
>>I hear good things about Mint?
>Where?
Mainly from me. Mint is a pretty good first step into linux. You read so much about how customizable linux is but it's pretty easy to completely mess it up when your starting out.

My advice. Get a cheap ssd and load mint on it and live with it a while and see how it goes. If you get bored then try to customize it and when it shits itself reinstall and try again and try another version.

I really don't see what problem people have with mint. It's a really good transition from windows.

All the other versions of linux when first seen from the perspective of a windows user is like being greated by the French castle in Monty Python's 'Holy Grail'.

>>55970980
It won't do anything it just will corrupt your current partition scheme.
All you need to do is re create the partition scheme after you reboot then partition

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I was testing out some of Linux Mint's new X-apps in Xubuntu (My daily driver) and had a random thought. Since all the X-apps the come preinstalled in LM are based on popular gtk3 apps, would it be possible to create an "X" version of the Gnome Software Center in Ubuntu 16.04 so it integrates better with some derivatives like Xubuntu, MATE, etc. These X-apps look astonishingly beautiful in Xfce, while gtk3 apps look alien.

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>>55971003
Well now it's hanging on force cancel.
Time to go off myself I guess.

>>55971053
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking but this might be it:
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/08/how-to-disable-gtk3-client-side.html

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Ok guys. I have a 10 GB swap partition and 4 GB of RAM. I was told to make swap 2.5x my RAM. I'll be upgrading to 8 GB RAM soon because someone is giving me a good deal. Should I resize swap even if I never use it? I rarely use over 3 GB RAM anyways.

>>55971113
No you're fine swap is pretty useless unless you have a small total memory amount.

>>55971142
After the upgrade can I just delete my swap?

>>55971108
Although what you've shown me is interesting, that's not what i'm talking about. Not sure if you've heard, but in Linux Mint 18, the LM Team announced a new project called X-apps, the idea behind it is "to replace applications which no longer integrate properly outside of a particular environment (this is the case for a growing number of GNOME applications) and to give our desktop environments the same set of core applications, so that each change, each new feature being developed, each little improvement made in one of them will benefit not just one environment, but all of them." (Source: https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sarah_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) For example, one application the made called "Xed" (The one shown in my picture) is a text editor based on Pluma. I was wondering if it was possible to make an "X-app" version of the Software Center

>>55971215
It's not a good idea to remove swap especially if you didn't configure lvm for your machine.
I'd say keep it just because if something leaks memory you'll have a buffer before your kernel panics due to lack of free memory.

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Anyone recommend a 980ti driver for gnome/ubuntu 16.04? About to install.

Also what is the best way to set up dual boot on two different hard drives? Unplug the windows drive install gnome normally plug the drive back in and update grub?

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If I can't install VisualBoyAdvance from PlayDeb.net, or from the PPA, that means its fugged at present moment, right?

>>55971250
Nvidia provides very good proprietary drivers that are on par with the windows counterpart.
Dual booting with EFI is pretty simple because it supports things like GPT and multi-drive booting etc.

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How'd I do /g/?
>Wanted to get into Linux, wanted a laptop
>Got a T420 for 150 on ebay, installed Xubuntu
>Planning to get to know my way around the OS and then install Arch
How do I make xfce look real fuckin nice?

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>>55971339
Visualboyadvance is in the default Ubuntu repositories

>>55971374
Get a GTK theme and icon theme
Change the panel configuration and add docbarx if you're into that thing:
https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DockbarX?content=101604

>>55971374
Well, there are some pretty nice themes on https://www.xfce-look.org/browse/ord/top/ and for more of the specifics and personal customization, Just press the "All Settings" option in the top left of the whiskermenu and you should find the interesting stuff there. Just experiment until you find something you like.

>>55971374
>and then install Arch

why?

>>55971425
don't trigger the arch or die crowd

>>55971374

You did good. I have a new thinkpad a x260 and its 10 hour battery for work.

Makes me miss my t520 and w520. The new one is small and a cheaper plastic. Was thinking of trying to get the old ones and mod the batteries to see how long I can get them to last. Should be able to dissemble them and replace the cells even add more cells and make some kind of case.

>>55971425
>>55971446

Not him but I am thinking about doing it just for the experience. Should teach alot of shit about whats going on under the hood. That or Gentoo.

>>55971339
can't you use retroarch?

>>55971425
Not op but I've done similar.

Run Ubuntu just to see if Linux functions fine on the computer and then switch over to arch.

Ubuntu uses out dated packages in comparison to arch so if it runs on Ubuntu it should run fine on arch and Ubuntu comes pre configured so I can easily try everything out. Switch over to arch because I like the customization and newer packages.

Arch is just harder to check with since it doesn't ship with a UI on by default and other similar things like network manager for easy wifi.

>>55971468
>Should teach alot of shit about whats going on under the hood.

I don't know why it has this reputation. The installation is piss easy and it tells you exactly what to do. The Arch userbase is so far up its own ass and it has way too much momentum at this point.

There is very little customization in Arch. It's their way or the highway. Packages are massive as well. If you want to know what's going on under the hood then install Gentoo/Slackware/Crux/Void/any other minimal distro that actually gives you options.

How do I make linux not look like shit.
Wide bulky icons and blurry fat text. Its disgusting and I really dislike it. I enjoy the sharp, thin, minimalistic nature of a lot of windows icons.
Running kubuntu is a vm though and I cant see a reason to use it over windows especially since I hate the way it looks.

>>55971425
Yup, pretty much for the experience and the beauty

>>55971375
>version 1.2

outdated

>>55971471
Can you explain how this works to me?
I looked this up on the gametech wiki, and got led to http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Libretro

But i'm not really understanding what this is.
Is Libretro an emulator without a GUI?
Does retroarch have to be used with libretro?

please spoonfeed a noob

>>55971620
That's just the front end the actual version in the Ubuntu repositories is version 1.8-3

>>55971394
>>55971415
Thanks all, appreciate it. Will do for sure.
>>55971425
Pretty much what everyone else said, I want the experience and I personally think some of the desktops on here look straight amazing
>>55971468
Yeah man, i was thinking about an x series. Think I'm gonna have to shell about a bit more for a new battery desu, but oh well.

pretty soon after trump wins, the arch crowd will muscle their way through the thread and make it /faglt/

install arch or die

>>55971537
>How do I make linux not look like shit.
You configure it.

>>55971537
easy, install arch ;^)

>>55971708
>I personally think some of the desktops on here look straight amazing

That has nothing to do with Arch, though. You're just blindly copying other idiots who copied other idiots who copied people who started using Arch when it was actually good.

>>55971620
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RetroArch
Not sure about the terminology but retroarch is the backend I think and libretto provides the modules or emulators for it, so the basic framework is retroarch and if you want to play gameboy you install certain libretto program.

>>55971787
>explaining to a windows user that they might need to work to get what they want

>>55970993
Mint is already messed up out of the box.

>>55971425
memes

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>>55971815
>arch

>>55971787
Oh I configured it a lot. Still looks like shit. And Ive never seen a desktop that doesnt look like shit.
But from your reply Ill assume linux is supposed to look like shit.

Please recommend me a lightweight and fun linux distro to mess with. I've tried every distro from funtoo to lfs to ubuntu to arch.

Is crux good? What about slackware?

>>55971981
>le arch users are elitists meme
>le arch doesn't work meme
You're just acting like you say they do

>>55972416
>le
>>>/plebbit/

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Anyone know why/how I can get rid of this black box surrounding the URL

When dual booting arch and linux do I install grub to dev/sda1, the windows recovery partition?

>>55972510
>dual booting arch and linux
arch kiddies everyone

>>55972510
do you want to overwrite the windows recovery partition?

>>55972534
Windows I am just dumb

>>55972534
Arch is very popular with underage Windows users for some reason.

>>55972585
>Arch is very popular with underage Windows users for some reason

What an astute observation.

>>55972536
lol
(I did that, but kinda on purpose cause I only use word)

>>55972510
only maybe if you cant make anymore partitions, and you dont care about that partition

>>55972585
That would be because arch lets them pretend to be l33t hax0rs.

>>55970954
shit, I was kinda wrong
>>55970950
I just remembered when it took me an hour it was in a live environment, and I was adding the partition to a crappy usb

>>55972674
>I was adding the partition to a crappy usb
Why? USB transfer speed is usually terribly slow.

>>55972669
what are the benefits to arch?

ive always shyed away cause I kinda like only having to add 1 or 2 programs I need, instead of all of them

>>55972697
I doubt you use every single program prepackaged, which most times are hard deps you cant remove
>bububububut arch has monolithic kernel by default
Build your own.

>>55972690
been playing with linux for 2 days, thought id be leet to have a 64gb mint live usb with a 60gb persistence partition, I think firefox took like 5 min to load lol

For someone who just wants to learn more about UNIX which would be better, BSD or Linux?

>>55972480
#urlbar, #search-bar { border: none !important }

>>55969724
What's so great about OpenSUSE KDE compared to vanilla?

>>55972719
Get a distro made for being in a live USB like puppy linux.

>>55972669
Uh no not really. No one thinks that.

>>55972725
It doesn't matter.

>>55972725
Arch Linux.

Anyone here run Debian Sid or Tumbleweed? Arch is Arch and Void lacks documentation and a community.

I'm looking for a good rolling release distribution.

>>55967827
I h-hope you d-die...

>>55972835
Gentoo, Funtoo and Exherbo.

>>55968275
They're signature files, just get the tarball

>>55972849
Is Exherbo actually usable as a daily driver or is it just a meme?

>>55972871
Meme. Use Kubuntu.

>>55972871
if you have to ask, it's not for you.

>>55972883
>K
>ubuntu

double no

>>55972835
Tumbleweed is easier to install than Debian Sid, but it definitely has less users, so probably less support in general.

Idk just try them out. Ubuntu is based on Debian Sid, so it can't be that bad.

>>55972891
Ok, you smug bitch. I'm going to Google around.

Is it similar to Gentoo/Funtoo? What are the actual benefits?

>>55967659
People unironically using Arch? How is that turd distro anything but a meme?

>>55968092
KDE

>>55968451
Kubuntu

>>55969074
KDE no contest

>>55969500
>not using Kubuntu
Why ?

>>55972781
>>55972789
Why?

>>55972907
more like LFS. but similar to gentoo/funtoo.

>>55971374
Chinkpad meme. Sell it and buy an elitebook. Install gentoo.

>>55972971
What exactly do you want to learn about UNIX?

>>55972926
>>55972948
Fuck off dipshit, KDE is trash and so is Kubuntu.

>>55973023
Everything, nithing in specific. I just want to play around with it and understand it better.

>>55973053
this faggot uses unity

>>55973053
> le kde is bloatware meme

KYS you ignorant autist

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Fuck what do I do?

I thought this was supposed to be friendly?

>>55973287
comment /dev/sda3 out of /etc/fstab

>>55973311
But that's my root

>>55973287
What can you do in the emergency shell? Try fscking it again. Have you tried e2fsck as it says?

Otherwise boot from external media and try mounting it.

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>>55973315
pretty much this:
>>55973349
do what it suggests. then re-install. i'm assuming you have partitioned correctly?

>>55972294
I see you struggle with logic.

If I'm going to use Icecat for banking, email, paypal, and ebay, is it okay to store the profile on a folder on my desktop?

What is with these fucktarded file permissions on Ubuntu? I had to run nautilus as sudo just to drop icecat in usr/bin/share

>>55973483
you're fucking retarded.
/usr/local/bin

>>55973483
>I had to run nautilus as sudo
Please don't do that. If you do things like this then anything you do on your computer is not secure.
Use your package manager, it is there for a reason.

>>55973511
>>55973498
fugg

icecat didn't come with a readme or anything, and when i looked at usr/local/bin
it was empty, so I assumed software I install shouldn't go there

how can I undo my fuckup?

>>55972728
Where do I put this

anyone want to recommend some decent KDE themes? default is okay but would like something a little different, maybe along the lines of the arc theme or similar.

>>55973538
You don't install software by downloading it and putting it somewhere, you install things with your package manager, it's one of the things which makes linux secure.
Just delete the things you copied to /usr and install firefox or whatever properly.

>>55973562
By the way you can copy or delete things with higher permissions than you have with your terminal.
>cd /usr/bin/share (moves you to that location)
>sudo rm icecat (deletes whatever you select)
do that for all of the files you copied.
Don't run graphical programs with sudo again.

>>55973483
Icecat is just firefox with a different logo and an addon preinstalled.

I can't find a consistent answer on this: How do I reliably uninstall a desktop environment in debian?

For example, if I do apt-get remove lxde, it only uninstalls a few packages, but tons of applications that came with/for lxde (like openbox, leafpad, xarchiver, etc.) are still installed.

>>55973562
>>55973590
thanks

What is the harm in launching gui applications with sudo? Not being smart, I am trying to learn.

So, if I downloaded Icecat off of one of the gnu ftp server mirrors, and it came in a .tar.bz2 archive, how would I install it on stock Ubuntu 16.04?

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ssh to a netbook plugged into my sound system, ultra lazy mode, ssh to pi plugged into tv, rtorrent directly to pi or sftp mp4 and play while copying the shell is so great!

>>55973673
sudo apt-get purge 'package'

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>>55973624
I need two browsers, I have one setup like pic related, the other I have nearly vanilla settings so I can do banking and shit on it without hassle.

I browse the web with scripts, requests, cookies disabled, caches disabled, no offline storage or retention of data. I'm autistic with how I browse web 2.0 since its so fucking redundant and shitty.

Still gotta have a functional browser on the side though.

>>55973676
>>So, if I downloaded Icecat off of one of the gnu ftp server mirrors, and it came in a .tar.bz2 archive, how would I install it on stock Ubuntu 16.04?
You don't, you open your package manager and install a browser which it has. Or you can try to find a ppa with icecat if you insist on having the placebo of firefox with a different icon.
>>55973700
firefox -p
one profile for normal use, one for banking.

Reminder that your dotfiles are a disgusting mess:

https://alexpearce.me/2016/02/managing-dotfiles-with-stow/

>>55973673
you can try apt-get autoremove, but i think they changed the way DE metapackages work because people would accidentally remove them and autoremove their whole desktop

How do I use Pacaur with the AUR? It keeps saying I cannot connect to the AUR, do I need to add the repo?

>>55973714
>if you insist on having the placebo of firefox with a different icon.

icecat != iceweasel

https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

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Real talk: Why all the hate on Ubuntu?

It's the most popular linux distro, therefor it has the most support, and it does work well out of the box. I know that they made a mistake with the whole Amazon search thing, but that's been gone for awhile AFAIK.

>>55973770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat
>This feature is available in Firefox 1.0, 1.5, and 3.0
>Concern about that decision has been raised in a discussion on the savannah-hackers-public mailing list.
>The GNU LibreJS extension detects and blocks nonfree nontrivial JavaScript.
>...would make it possible in Android to visit a non-mobile version of a website.
Yeah so, a couple of addons which can be installed in firefox, a new logo, a feature which is questionable and the ability to visit a non mobile site in android.
Jokes.

>>55973770
>>55973714
Is there any harm in having two profiles open at the same time? Could they be described as two separate instances running at the same time?

Not trying to be annoying, just want to make sure I'm doing things the right way.
I don't want to be browsing /s/ and /g/ while checking my emails and playing with money, since everything is tracked.

>>55973799
>It's the most popular linux distro
Not really; they just tell people they are.

>>55973814
It has slightly more sane defaults than vanilla firefox, which means less of a pain in the ass to set up. If you have to go way out of your way to get it working then it isn't worth the trouble.

>>55973837
You will be tracked regardless. Use Tor Browser or Tails if you want to be (somewhat) sure you're safe.

>>55973814
Absolute freedom is very inconvenient thanks to the prevalence of proprietary software.

The best choice is to use FOSS when possible, and just bite the proprietary bullet to make your life easier. I think this is what most people do.

>>55973842
OK, be that as it may, all statistics I can find (and in my personal experience) Ubuntu is the most widely used and known distro, at least for personal use. I think this is especially true now that they're somewhat backed by Microsoft.

>>55973870
>Absolute freedom is very inconvenient thanks to the prevalence of proprietary software.
I'm sorry to hear an icon causes you so much trouble.

is there any real difference between terminal emulators if you use a tiling window manager? It feels like a lot of features overlap between these two separate "cogs"

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Why are the shadows all retarded? Here is my compton conf

http://pastebin.com/eCFZjZxg

>>55973905
That is gtk3 causing that.

>>55973882
I just meant that "absolute freedom is very inconvenient" in general.

Is it really worth the freedom to use a forked browser JUST because the icon isn't free enough? Also using an add-on that literally hinders functionality and makes most sites broken. Same with running a 100% free distribution; it's a lot more work to setup and use than a distribution that includes proprietary parts.

>>55973929
Any ideas how I can fix?

>>55973933
Yeah, I'm forced to use firefox because chrome/chromium doesn't have some addons I need.

>>55973942
http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=4908

>>55973901
Multiplexers (screen/tmux/whatever hipster nonsense you use instead of those two) and tiling WMs have severe overlap, but for the term emulator itself, your main consideration when using a tiling wm is what looks nice (eg. no weird borders or shit).

>>55973799
Looking back: Tons of stupid ideas introduced to everyone and breakages due to extended periods of incompetence in packaging what most everyone else was able to. Upstart, Unity, Pulseaudio, Java...

Right now? Not that much...

>>55973998
Is there a special reason a lot of people use urxvt with tiling window managers?

So I want to install Debian on my X220 but I'm too stupid to do it. How to I deal with the non-free wireless driver issue?

>>55974018
It's a solid, nice looking terminal emulator that doesn't have unnecessary cruft and usually those inclined to use tiling wms are also incline to (within reason) avoid wasting space/resources on unused features.

>inb4 'found the urxvt user'

>>55974035
Install the drivers yourself or use a distro / repository that isn't doing open sauce free only.

>>55974035
>>55974061
non-free repo

>>55974018
It is one of the obvious choices... can be configured nicely and does everything you need without special dependencies.

Every Linux community is fucking infested with Arch retards.

>"It's MY system. It does what I WANT it to"
>"Arch is whatever you want it to be"
>"Arch taught me Linux"
>"If you have to ask X, maybe Arch isn't for you"
>"Arch just werks!"
>"If something breaks it isn't Arch's fault. It's YOUR fault."

Why is this the only distro that attracts fucktards like this?

>>55974074
What exactly does one need from a terminal emulator if you're using a tiling window manager with tmux/screen? I'm just trying to understand the differences between these functions.

>>55974081
I never see anyone say any of those things, yet butthurt folk like you are all over the place complaining about these strawmen...

>>55974100
You don't really see it on here but you see it on Reddit all the time. Google "Why Arch Linux?" and every response is something stupid like that.

>>55973986
Didn't work, well this fucking sucks. It's always one thing...

>>55974093
Tmux / screen still run inside a terminal emulator. It's not a opengl drawing surface canvas thing for tmux / screen, it handles it's own graphics, unicode stuff, key inputs sent to it. Even if tmux / screen do a lot of that again it needs to work right for you.

>>55974111
Reddit has the same exact dynamic as here when it comes to 'arch is da best'/'fuck arch users mirite'. You can rail on reddit users all you want but these imaginary pretentious arch users are just as rare over there.

do people actively try to fuck up their system?

maybe i've just gotten better at it, but almost nothing happens if I don't fuck it up myself. typically easy enough to figure out what and revert it.

>>55974155
you are selectively ignoring them if you honestly think they are 'that rare'

arch users are the hipsters of the linux community.

>>55974274
You're cherry-picking them if you think they aren't.

>>55974155
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/4a73p6/why_do_you_use_arch_linux/

>>55974296
How do you interpret this? I can't really find many pretentious arch users in there.

>>55974335
>t. Arch babby

>>55974335
"I like Arch" == "Arch is the only good thing and everyone else is retarded"

Not that the typical /g/ user has any place calling others pretentious...

>>55974035
https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi#Installation

>>55974354
No. I'm not.

I don't like pacman, and I am not running Arch except in a VM when I want to test if something runs on Arch.

>>55974436
>I don't like pacman
No offense, but what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>55974482
it is a boring ass game unless you are competitively playing it for some reason

>>55974528
well played 10/10

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What is your setup senpai?

Desktop: Ubuntu 16.04.1
Laptop: Fedora 24

I would really like to have Fedora on my main machine but it has no ssd in it and the boot time w/o will be a new level of suffering.


Fedora boots up on desktop in 1:35:00 while Ubuntu needs only a half minute.

Laptoo has an ssd so fedora has on it.

>>55974563
Windows 7 on my desktop and Void on my laptop.

>>55974563
mine is actually flipped.

have spare ssds to boot.

>>55974563
Arch + Xfce is all you ever need

>>55974482
Nothing, pacman is just pretty annoying to very stupid in a bunch of ways.

Even just the syntax. It's not "install" and "remove" with alias for "uninstall". It's "sync" and "remove".

The man page knows some of the options which are most important and lists them at the top, but hell, they're somehow aliased to capital letters? That's very atypical.

Of course, the actually important "-y" is somehow not there and is very cleverly chosen as an alias for "--refresh".

And you have "-s". That fucking thing is doing a regexp search when you do a query, a normal search for files (where -x is the regexp search), and acts as an alias for --recursive for removals. 'cmon, that's just retarded.

Sauce for non-arch users:
https://www.archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.8.html

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>>55974296
If you don't want to see people gushing about Arch, maybe you shouldn't browse reddit threads created exclusively for that purpose.

>>55974081
>Why is this the only distro that attracts fucktards like this?
I know for a fact you're full of shit, because every time I see a thread about some new Windows 10 panopticon bullshit, I shitpost about how happy I am for switching to Debian.

>>55974610
s/xfce/i3/

>>55974636
>i can't learn syntax

Once you're used to the flags it's far more convenient then A) having different apt-get/apt-cache/etc style commands and B)typing out 'install' every time.

>>55974638
s/i3/tmux/

>>55974637
Why do so few people use Sid?

>>55974649
I appreciate one-letter short aliases, but you can and should make both them and their long form variant less retarded and incoherent.

And for the long form, you can provide all the aliases the industry typically uses, unless that gives some problems. Even on Linux, the vast majority of people wouldn't call it "synchroinizing" for a package that downloads and gets extracted into the userland. It's literally a typical installation, and even the man page knows this:
> Synchronize packages. Packages are installed directly from the remote repositories, including all dependencies required to run the packages. For example, pacman -S qt will download and install qt and all the packages it depends on.

These things and a lot more are stupid and they never should have done things like that.

>>55974734
The word 'unstable' scares them.

A lot of people think 'unstable' means 'crashes', when it actually means 'packages change a lot more often'.

>>55974734
Most people aren't Debian developers/maintainers

>>55974748

-j, --bzip2
        Filter the archive through bzip2(1).

-J, --xz
        Filter the archive through xz(1)

You've got much bigger problems to worry about than pacman syntax.

>>55974770
tar?

Also not great, but tar has the excuse that they wanted/needed to add support for something with a name they couldn't control way later.

If someone comes up with the "advanced dragon dildo compression" format now and it takes off, they also can't use -a for that now.

Of course the approach of having to specify which format it is for decompression is also flawed, but again, the tool is THAT old.


Pacman knew it was going to need to do install and uninstall all of this. But it failed to even keep with industry terminology (it's not even a fucking synchronization...) or make not conflicting one-letter shortcuts.

>>55974734
>>55974754
The documentation probably scares them, too. The two-sentence pitch mentions "full system breakage" as a possibility.

I switched to stretch when the slow updates to the stable branch started to bother me, and that was enough to address all of my issues, so I've personally just never bothered with sid.

>>55974734
>>55974823
I'd say a general rule of thumb would be Stable for servers, Testing for desktops, Sid if you want to contribute to development (submitting bug reports etc.).

>>55974819
What industry standards are you keeping blabbering about?

>>55974819
Stop being such a hyper-autismo about the naming schemes and just learn something new and you'll notice that pacman works very nicely.

>>55967546
PC Authority: Your favorite site for LGBTQHIV-friendly news.

>>55974856
My distro is Free as in Free From Institutionalized Oppression.

I've never given KDE a chance because of how bloated I've heard it is. Is it heavier than the Windows Desktop?

>>55974843
Industry standard terminology. (I am pretty sure I said terminology every time?)

What installation means, what synchronization means.

>>55974850
Oh, I did use it, which is how I know that it is retarded.

Pacman doesn't only have syntax flaws, it also has various problems with features. [I recall that for instance when I tried it, you could specify multiple repositories in /etc/pacman.conf, but you couldn't actually tell pacman -S which repository you want to install from?]

Anyhow, I don't feel like doing a really long discussion. I just wanted to back up the claim of it being quite retarded.

>>55975013
About the same. I don't really like either.

>>55975013
It's fat by Linux standards and always has been, but no, it isn't as bloated as Windows.

>>55975013
I tried it and it was slow as shit. Maybe that's just me... It felt slower than windows

Guys, check out this thread: >>55975742

>>55969393
The thing is, when you don't know what broke and google doesn't return anything, there's precious little you can actually do besides reinstalling. I used this install to learn more about linux and probably installed a lot of stuff that I wouldn't now.

>>55967493
check out gpu passthrough, for indie games check if there is native version.

I broke openSuse again and now i want to try something new. I think i would like to try debian but all these processors architectors make me confused.
I have Intel i7

what are those arm64, mips and others? Debian doesn't support my processor?

>>55976141
you need amd64

>>55976147
Thank you
Care to explain why?

>>55976170
https://searx.me/?q=amd64&categories=general

>>55976182
double thank you

Are there any TV friendly distros? Not like KODI, which i'd plan to use anyway. I mean a DE/frontend that, i suppose would behave a little like Android TV.

Navigable with a remote/controller. Has a curated repository for "TV friendly" programs.

Not that i mind having a standard DE on my HTPC, it'd just be nice to have this kind of option.

I run a dual boot but in order to increase startup time is there a good way to get straight into linux without bootloader and the timeout, while not completely making windows completely inaccessible?