/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

1st for Kubuntu

>>55954805
Remember, it's Linux, not GNU/Linux. GNU is Jewish trickery.

Linux is my favorite operating system! :D

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>>55954845

>>55954845
I am using GNU/Linux

>>55954805
Who is this semen demon?

>>55954860
No, you're using Linux.

Reminder that there is nothing wrong with slackware

>>55954873
That's Jon "maddog" Hall, a homosexual.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hall_%28programmer%29

>>55954893
>Using an OS that promotes a cult

>

>>55954860
aka "Linux" for short :)

>>55954880
I'm not denying I am using Linux. I said I am using the Linux version of GNU. GNU/Linux

>>55954909
GNU is shorter :)

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Well so far its just been shitposting.

Anyone have questions about stuff?

>>55954901
Once again, GNU promotes degeneracy. This is why we need Donald Trump.

>>55954930
You are correct! I suppose it just comes down to personal preference.

>>55954932
Yeah.


>>55954671

>>55954907
I've just surpassed all memes with this single post.
Look, it makes a deeper statement than any of ever you could with your "GNU/Linux" posts

>>55954860
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.

Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.

There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as GNU Mach or even kFreeBSD, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.

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>misclicked w/ the mouse in KDE
>cursor landed on a Periphery album in Spotify and dragged it into the nearby Firefox window
>it opens the album on Spotify's website
I'm dying over here - albeit somewhat useless to me, I learned a new trick today!

>>55955010
>using spotify

how useful is a distro like xubuntu for day to day use

>>55955077
Extremely useful. Xubuntu is God-tier

>>55955077
>>55955087

The same like any other distro with xfce.

I'm new to Arch and I want to install an rpm package and 'rpm -i' doesn't work. What would be the ideal way to go about this?

>>55955144
How did you even manage to install Arch?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/pacman

>>55955144
found the ubuntu user

I know nothing about tablets. Is it possible to use ganoo+loonix on a decent 10+ inch tablet? And by that I mean some proper distro, not Android or other such rubbish.

>>55955144
wew lad

>>55955174
well now, hold on. It's not on the pacman repos and it's broken in AUR, so I had to download the it from their site as a .rpm. Now I just wanna extract.

>am I stoopid?

>>55955250
What package??

>>55955250
Either you are baiting or you are not ready for Arch

Arch is a pkg.tar.gz based distro. Not .deb not .rpm. You can use rpmextract fot that

>>55955258
this thing
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/google-play-music-desktop-player-git/

>>55955275
So how exactly did it "break" what aur helper are you using?

>>55955288
I'm using yaourt and there was something missing in the installation. It was called electron. Even after editing it out, just to see, it returned a lot of errors and that was that.

>>55955267
rpmextract didn't work. says command not found, even after getting it from pacman.
also rpm2cpio 'rpm' | cpio -idmv emits a bunch of errors that aren't even recognizable. it's all a bunch of characters and it doesn't stop unless I force it to. I really don't know wtf I'm doing, but I'm trying to learn the by going balls deep, you know?

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How is my font rendering? Debian Testing with the Linux Infinality preset and open sans.

>>55955342
of course I'm not typing rpm, I'm putting the actual package

>>55955342
Use antergos for now

>>55955382
no, man

>balls deep

Is systemd really bad or is it just memes?

LXQT YES. The only thing I need is a good launcher like Krunner

>>55955426
gmrun, dmenu

>>55955426
rofi

>>55955420
OpenRc is superior. Why? Well I don't know why. I got shilled to death so I now use openrc

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Highly underrated programs? Searching for treasures.

>>55955382

Seriously speaking, I've been following the wiki and have gotten everything running, even i3 and it's just this one package that's giving me problems. If I can't do it, just let me know now so I can quit searching for the solution

>>55955557
man

>>55955499
What distro are you?

>>55955555

>>55955557
ssh

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is this best IDE for linux anons?

>>55955637
Gentoo

>>55955679
use pathogen

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>>55955695
i just installed something from git
doesnt look bad

>>55955420
if you ask me, it's memes. Systemd is a comprehensive low-level system designed to standardize a lot of things across distributions that otherwise would cause incompatibilities.

People dont like that it tries to do everything (the unix philosophy is a meme).

People dont like Red Hat (red hat hate is a meme.)

People allege that it's NSA spyware (meme meme meme mems meme)

The NSA does have hooks in the FOSS community but systems is not some kind of nsa-sponsored cuckware.

> inb4 fuck off poettering
> inb4 red hat shill

>>55954932
> KDE
> Dolphin can't dispay files
> 'protocol for baloosearch died unexpectedly'
> no missing packages
> no google fu has saved me yet
> can't figure out why baloo is fucking itself

How2fix?

If i partitioned half my HDD for a certain distro, and I want to use the other half later, as in merge them together, can I do that? Is that even possible? Or do I have to redo everything?

>>55955865
iiirc if it's unallocated space you can expand the partition with no problem using gparted or some shit.

>>55955926
Sweet! Thanks

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>>55955275
use aur/gpmdp
anything that ends with "-git", "-svn", "-hg", etc are development versions, not stable releases. they may not compile or work every time

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>>55955808
bretty gud post anon. agreed on some points.

never got the unix meme, before my time maybe? i'll try to read up on it beyond meme'ing posts here. some programs i use follow the philosophy, so it's not like i'm averse to it.

also don't hate red hat, or any other company in the game.

>>55955999
Man, thank you so much

I just installed the latest Ubuntu GNOME version, but I'm unable to find any resource on how to use all the features of my touch screen.
I'm on a Cube i9, a chinese 2 in 1. Everything' fine but the scrolling, using only one finger, as you would do on Windows 10.
Is it possible to make it work?

>>55956098
How do you feel about Red Hat working together with the NSA for SELinux?

I followed the instructions near the bottom of this page
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/780094/when-will-the-tearing-issue-be-fixed-/
wrt /etc/X11/xorg.conf

I have two screens that i use, one is always on, the other whenever I watch movies or whatever. Will it automatically be applied to both displays? If not, how can I do this?

I'm also using a mostly default xorg config, such that xorg.conf was non-existent before I put those 4 lines in there. Will that cause any problems?

>>55956154
choose not to comment for a reason. i'll just say, hopefully it is scrutinized enough.

anyway, we need more audits for all sorts of stuff, not just SELinux.

>>55956154
> le selinux is an nsa botnet meme

Selinux was initially created by the NSA but has been FOSS for several years under Red Hat's guidance. It is secure.

>>55954968
>implying we aren't all accomplished memologists that were simply speechless from the magnificence of that post.

You got lucky is all, newfag

>>55956192
NSA shill

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So I installed Arch and was fucking around trying to do shit, like themes and all that. When I needed to reboot, I did it and now I'm stuck at boot (top picture shows what I see). Bottom picture is what happens when I ALT + F2, login and use "systemctl status sddm.service". Can any anon help me out? I uninstalled sddm and installed it again, ran it, etc. and it still gets stuck at boot. I am using KDE as my desktop environment.

>>55956309
interesting you see that at boot 2bh

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>>55956309
wrong pic lmao

>>55956309
>needed to reboot
Why? This isn't Windows.

Start your session without your DE.

>>55956309
I thought /fglt/ is maki free!

>>55956481
It was, then I made a maki edition and destroyed it all.

>>55956506
/pol/ posts ok, gay posts ok, but srsly, maki posting is crossing the line

>>55956469
I was a windows normie so I didn't know that I can do this. But that doesn't answer why the display manager doesn't wanna start even after reinstalling it multiple times.

How do you remove packages in Gentoo

What's the best distro?

>>55956827
moebuntu.

>>55956827
The one I'm using.

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I always loved Gentoo for sensible choices the maintainers make, and I've been using KDE since 3.x and I really love it

But now Gentoo is pushing upgrade to KDE5, they're literally removing KDE4 packages because it's hard to maintain mixed KDE4/KDE5 setups.
And KDE5 is already versioned 5.6/5.7 but still fucking half-backed. What the actual fuck. Gentoo how could you.

>>55956827
There isn't really a "best distro" that exists. That's the reason there are different distros, because they all serve a different purpose. Some try to reach out to as many people as possible, while others target a very specific group of people. It all comes down to researching and experimenting with different distros until you find one you like, and does all the things you need it to do.

>>55954805
Any opinions on Solaris?

>>55956926
Weird. I just installed Open Indiana about 3 minutes ago. So far it feels like a slightly less autistic OpenBSD. Not too impressed, desu.

>>55954966
Post full list of packages it wants to install and your use flags

>>55956964
Is its package management as strict as apt? Does it sperg out about broken package when a dependency is not installed?

If i put squid on an ssd, would it damage it?

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idk if anyone wants to help..
>thinkpad t440 with win 7 prof
>boots fine
>install manjaro
>booting now will either take 3 seconds or 4 minutes randomly
>suddenly wont boot half the time and other half will load grub but no windows
>now wont load grub at all and i get a blank screen with a flashing _ unless i boot with flash drive then its still a 50/50
>updating manjaro takes way longer than it should even though the mirrors should be fine

for reference to that last one I also had mint on this laptop and updated fast and fine but still had the booting problems listed earlier

is it the laptop? or am i just baka as fuck and missing something

> be drunk

Show me some dubs and I will fuck up my laptop in any way you want

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>>55955557
sawfish, an old turn-of-the-millenium window manager (used to be GNOME's default in the early 2000s).

http://sawfish.tuxfamily.org/
https://github.com/SawfishWM

It is a quite similar to emacs: a lot of its killer functionality and behaviour is implemented in its own lisp dialect called librep, as a result sawfish can be modified and extended on the fly.

Also like emacs: sawfish is packaged with an idiot-proof configuration GUI which uses GTK librep bindings (called the Configurator, similar to emacs' Customize). The GUI is VERY comprehensive, and it can also be extended with your own scripts and librep declarations.

Sawfish is still being developed, there are a few dozen commits every couple of months by one guy, however literally nobody else uses sawfish anymore (not even ricer shitters) which is a shame. What is worse is that nearly all the former sawfish community contributions, scripts and extensions are hosted on Wikia!

>>55955808
>standardize a lot of things across distributions that otherwise would cause incompatibilities.
It's probably the only major benefit that systemd brings, but it's designed by enterprise for server admins and brings unnecessary complexity to desktop

>>55957237
Don't use manjango.

Are you setting grub up for your windows install?

>>55957271
absolutely disgustin

>>55957287
k, I guess I could try unbuntu or something, I'm pretty new to this all

and no I didn't I thought it just did it by itself when I saw windows was already in grub after I installed manjaro, the windows was preinstalled if that matters so I just partitioned the drive for manjaro

>>55957039
I'll let you know later. I'm doing this all off the cuff. I'm currently updating and it's a doozy at over a thousand packages. First thing I'm going to look for is another desktop, Gnome is horrid on this shit.

>>55957322
Step through it again, it might have been misconfigured

This link is for uefi, but if your using bios, scroll down a bit and youll see the section for it
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Windows_installed_in_UEFI-GPT_Mode_menu_entry

>>55957364
thanks

How do you uninstall packages with portage?

>>55957391
#apt autoremove --purge gentoo

>>55957237
failing hard drive or ram. would be my guess, check for bad sectors on your hdd, likely that things are loading on the good parts is when it boots fine, but then when it throws stuff to one of the bad sectors on the hdd that you're going to get really slow response / failures. not linux related is my guess.

>>55957401
Cmon man, serious replies only

Quick question, in order to use drawing apps like photoshop through WINE, I have to transfer the programs folder with the .exe in it, not the installer, right?

>>55957433
Replace gentoo with your program?

>>55957437
Not sure exactly what you're asking

I am fairly retarded so please be gentle. I'm currently attempting to install Windows 7 on my new build, but for some reason it is not having it. So I got the idea of installing a Linux distro and using that to actually install Windows onto the computer, since I'd have an OS I could actually work with instead of hoping that the USB works.

Is this feasible? If so, what distro would I want to choose? Something relatively simple to install and work with would be preferred.

>>55957433
emerge --remove (package)

t. installed gentoo when I was 17

>>55957437
Use GIMP instead

>>55957423
it just came in the mail a few days ago, it was refurbished though...

>>55957444
So in order to use drawing programs like photoshop, I would bring them in pre-installed rather than installing them in the distro

>>55957457
I actually want to use clip studio, photoshop is just a popular example

>>55954805
I am currently running Puppy Linux on a computer with a single core processor and 256MB of ram. Puppy Linux was one of the first distros I used when I was ~7 years old, so I am getting a bit of nostalgia. I don't have a hard drive for this computer yet, which is why I decided to run puppy again. I have a 32GB CF card and an IDE adapter coming in, but I am not sure what distro I will eventually settle on.

>>55957437
only if the installer doesn't work in wine

>>55957470
Will it work the same regardless of whether I use the installer or not?

>>55957464
>I actually want to use clip studio, photoshop is just a popular example
be specific next time, otherwise someone might give you information specific to the example you used, which might not even be applicable

>>55957484
Sorry desu

>>55957483
Possible. You can always go here: https://appdb.winehq.org/ and see how well certain software works on your version of WINE

>>55957483
depends, what happens if you did the same in windows?
if a program doesn't work in windows unless it's installed properly, then it probably also won't work in wine that way

in typical cases you want to install windows programs properly, both in windows and with wine

there are some programs whose installers don't work in wine, but the program itself does, this is a situation where you'd want to copy over the installed files

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wanted to share a vid that taught me a couple things about ssh, might help someone here too. before you ask, no i haven't opened pic related so yeah. vid is around an hour long.

https://vimeo.com/54505525

>>55957465
>about to go off at you for being underage b&
>could be 20 now if you got it at launch in 2003

where does the time go anons?

>>55957511
Thanks
>>55957512
Well, let's just say I installed this program through free means, and its because of that I don't want to reinstall it again because i don't want to go through that hassle.

I'll try it out and get back to you all

>>55957577
Yeah, I'm 20, and I did get it near the launch.

>>55957451
Please? I'm rather desperate.

>>55957738
>>55957451
what do you mean not having it? i've had some trouble installing windoze because it wouldn't make the partition or something.

probably use a live install of gparted to partition it ahead of time?

root@^_^:~ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:         +0.0°C  (crit = +127.0°C)

nouveau-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +46.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst =  +3.0°C)
                       (crit = +105.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)
                       (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)

nouveau-pci-0700
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +41.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, hyst =  +3.0°C)
                       (crit = +105.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)
                       (emerg = +135.0°C, hyst =  +5.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0:  +49.0°C  (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:         +49.0°C  (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:         +46.0°C  (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 2:         +43.0°C  (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 3:         +45.0°C  (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

root@^_^:~ top

top - 23:18:38 up 4 days,  1:31,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Tasks: 191 total,   1 running, 190 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0.0 us,  0.1 sy,  0.0 ni, 99.9 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem : 16381812 total, 11268844 free,   301080 used,  4811888 buff/cache
KiB Swap: 16723964 total, 16723964 free,        0 used. 15620184 avail Mem 

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                                                              
    1 root      20   0   38276   6356   4004 S   0.0  0.0   0:06.76 systemd                                                     
    2 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.06 kthreadd

why so hot?

>>55957926
running ubuntu server linux - I can grab specs if anybody needs them to tell me what to do to cool it down a bit

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I'm not getting any audio for some reason

>>55957961
Useful post, I'm sure you'll get lots of help.

>>55957970
One picture is worth a thousand words. With that image alone he explains all the errors he gets. Quality post.

Stacey's mom has got it going on

how do i do that cool thing where it shows the distro and writes the symbol in ASCII while showing pc specs

>>55958249
you don't

I installed kubuntu and I think I did something wrong because plasma often crashes and ask to send a report, something I have no Idea of.

Is there a way I can uninstall it, keep everything, get back to ubuntu and do a reinstall of the packages?

>>55957961
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Sound_system&redirect=no
Install all of it until your sound works.


Also, does anyone wanna share their PS1 config with me? I'm too busy to make my own and I want to have a nice-looking terminal right now.

>>55958249
https://github.com/KittyKatt/screenFetch

>>55958356
Keep what? As in your home directory? You don't really need to really even uninstall, just go install something like xubuntu-desktop and switch to that.

Search around on how to remove plasma 5 though. Something I noticed about uninstalling the default DE is that you gotta take extra care to remove all the packages necessary, otherwise you end up with mismanaged services, loose files, and it's a fucking mess.

Something I've noticed about apt in general now that I'm on debian is I can't keep track of all the bullshit I'm running.

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So weirdest thing just happened to me on plasma 5 debian testing...

kwin just fucking vanished mid session. I hadn't really processed what happened and I had been fucking with WINE, and so I tried running kwin --replace on reboot and the command wasn't found.

I had to go and install the kde window manager from the repository and now it's like nothing even happened. Weirdest fucking shit i have ever seen in my life.

Any ideas on what happened?

Suddenly, arch doesn't seem as unstable to me as debian testing has been.

xfce=godtier

>>55957248
> be drunk samefag

Install Funtoo

>>55957961
Download inxi and post 'inxi -F'

anyone has that all in one ricing tutorial?

also, how do i change all that default shit in manjaro?
downloaded kscreenlocker but cant make it active
also managed to change the lockscreen background

>>55958779
>anyone has that all in one ricing tutorial?
ask in the desktop thread
>>>/trash/4554293

> know this guy
> irrationally hates linux
> I'm talking if you say the work 'linux' he flips shit
> can't win an argument with him because he's an autistic sperg

How do I make him suffer?

How to get good font rendering in Gentoo/Funtoo

>>55958832
leave him alone asshole his uncle probably used linux and touched him when he was a kid, now he can't work in IT without getting triggered by dipshits like you

>>55958934
You know, that's probably not too far off from the truth.

> implying he works IT

No, he's just some dipshit I know. He's retarded enough to maybe have a future in Microsoft IT.

>>55958832
>>55958968
Sounds like the average neo-/g/ user.

>>55958832
Interject him

Does compton draw border shadows on fullscreen windows?

>>55959822
Depends on your settings

Is exchanging window managers in DEs a standard procedure or does it differ from DE to DE and wm to wm?

Whenever I run compton it freezes everything and I have to fucking restart my computer. I have no idea what's going on.

Hey guys
On my gnu/Linux laptop I have a Windows vm in qemu. The resolution of the laptop is 768 and the full screen vm doesn't have that option, but it does 1080. Would using that res damage my laptop? i5 2520m

>>55959901
https://dpaste.de/pTBV

pretty much default

>>55959954
sounds familiar but not sure which option did that for me

>>55956875
KDE is garbage, use xfce
Anyway, what exactly are they removing?

I'm new to linux and I'm dual-booting it with windows now, because I still need to run some programs I haven't found adequate replacements for. If I set up a virtual machine for windows, how good would it be for running basic stuff like word with endnote or something a tad more resource hungry? I don't care if programs run sluggishly, as long as they run. What would you suggest, VMware or QEMU or VirtualBox? Am I correct in thinking that either of the three would separate the host machine from the virtualized one?

>>55960471
Depends on your processor.

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I store large (50-100GB) backups in file-based ZFS pools.
So the backup procedure is: mount the ZFS pool, rsync data into it, unmount it. I have an offline copy of pools on an external drive, while online pools are kept on internal drives for ease of access. I move online backups to the external drive by just copying the whole pool file every time.
That's not efficient.

How can I optimize this process? Should I make a temporary snapshot of the online pool, send it to the offline pool, and delete the snapshot? Any better ideas?

>>55960502
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3350P CPU @ 3.10GHz

>>55959570
this

>>55960471
>>55960540
Unless you try to run games, it should work really well. If you let the guest OS use most of your CPU, you probably won't be bothered by the performance.
I recommend VirtualBox. It's simple and fast, runs any OS with no problems.

>>55960820
Thanks, was reading up on QEMU and it seemed too much to get into right away, VirtualBox it is then

Guys. I've failed at upgrading Debian Stable to Debian Testing. I was asked to restart a bunch of services to upgrade them, said yes, it closed kwin, interrupted the dist-upgrade process, and then I was stuck in a full screen terminal. I did a bunch of shit after that to finish upgrading, rebooted, and now I can't adjust the keyboard brightness.

I think I fucked up by using "aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade" instead of "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade". Can anyone help confirm or deny what I did wrong?

Why the fuck are there 3 commands for dealing with packages? Why not one that does everything?

>>55960916
One problem may have been not using dist-upgrade but even worse is that you had kde ibstalled during the update. You need to have a minimal system, then upgrade and then install your DE.

>>55960916
>Why the fuck are there 3 commands for dealing with packages? Why not one that does everything?
Sometimes you want only to check for updates, but not upgrade.

>>55961009
Or only upgrade packages that are sure to be safe instead of doing a full dist-upgrade.

>>55960916
Because some people said apt-get sucked and decided to make aptitude.

It's generally not a good idea to mix them since they save some data in a different format.

Is your system still fucked or is it just something minor like the keyboard brightness?

>>55961048
aptitude runs literally the same three commands, retard

>>55960984
>You need to have a minimal system, then upgrade and then install your DE.
Oh. I just assumed it would upgrade intelligently.

So to clarify:
In the Debian Stable netinstall, I should have no Desktop Environments selected? And then after booting into it, editing sources.list, and upgrading to testing, I can install KDE via the package manager?

>>55961009
>>55961035
I still don't see the point. I would like to do everything package related from a single command, and not have to be confused or concerned about slight differences.

>>55961048
>Is your system still fucked or is it just something minor like the keyboard brightness?
It's just minor stuff like that. It was a fresh install from today, so I really don't mind starting over (and it's probably safer in the long run)

>>55961088
I was referring to dpkg, apt(-cache/-get), and aptitude. I wish it were more like OpenSUSE where zypper does everything.

>>55961088
Not him but did you never read the debian wiki or administrator handbook? Aptitude handles things differently.

>>55961127
still runs the same three commands

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade

aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
aptitude dist-upgrade

>>55961127
>Aptitude handles things differently.
Where did I say that it handles things the same way?

>>55961157
Not either of them, and I guess it will warm your heart that you managed to troll three different people to respond to that shitty bait.

No one said they had different commands. They said that commands do things differently and fuck up one another.

>>55961181
read the original posts >>55960916 >>55961048 again

question:
>Why the fuck are there 3 commands for dealing with packages? Why not one that does everything?

retard answer:
>Because some people said apt-get sucked and decided to make aptitude.

>>55954906
explain that to me one more time mate.
slackware is the ultimate server brick?

>>55961211
My apologies.

>>55961211
The three commands weren't update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, they were apt-get, aptitude and dpkg.

No need for namecalling Anon, just a minor miscommunication.

>>55961127
>Aptitude handles things differently.
Aptitude works the same way as apt, the difference is that aptidude works with logs and has a additional TUI, while apt works directly. This is why people shouldn't use apt and aptitude at the same time, because aptitude doesn't track what apt does. How is this superior?

>>55961283
There's also just plain 'apt'.
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/sect.apt-get.en.html
Debian pkg management is a clusterfuck.

>>55956827
Install Gentoo

>>55961283
apt-get and aptidude are both frontends for dpkg

>>55961211
>>55961252
>just a minor miscommunication.
Yeah, my bad. I should've made it more clear in my original post. Speaking of which:
>In the Debian Stable netinstall, I should have no Desktop Environments selected? And then after booting into it, editing sources.list, and upgrading to testing, I can install KDE via the package manager?

>>55961306
Another "benefit" of aptitude: it isn't necessarily installed and depends on apt, which is almost always installed.

>>55961308
>Debian pkg management is a clusterfuck.
Yeah, I think it's just a bit aged and needs to be redesigned or something.

>>55961322
>aptidude
brb aliasing aptitude to aptidude

>been trying out different distros for past two months
>finally get frustrated enough to install ubuntu

>quick install with downloaded updates
>the wifi card firmware is already included
>no more fucking annoying screen tearing
>didn't have to install alternate drivers or a fix for graphics drivers
>laptop actually suspends on lid close
>the keyboard functions and buttons (thinkpad) work natively

What was the point of using anything else? Do you guys just do it for the learning experience, or did I try to force myself to reach a point I'm not familiar with yet?

>>55961384
The price of freedom is inconvenience

>>55961384
Aside from having to download one intel driver, all of this was the same for me when I installed Arch a few weeks back.

>>55961306
It is superior in the way it handles dependeny issues and in how the search works. There is a wiki page on it.

>>55961537
>dependeny issues
What is this meme about? If you don't force random packages via dpkg into your system, there are no dependency issues.
t. apt user, never had problems in 4 years

https://github.com/icy/pacapt
Thoughts?

Why does Linus prefer Fedora? What is so good about it?

>>55961570
You never used sid (I mean actually using not setting up minimally and just ricing) did you? I need to keep packages back roughly once every month. It is not an issue with aptitude, when I used apt-get it gave me retarded fixes like deleting contents of whole metapackages and other shit.

>>55961570
>If you don't force random packages via dpkg into your system
Then you're not able to install a ton of stuff, and you're basically resigned to relatively old and stale software.

Try installing tribler, for instance.

~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mkusb/ppa
sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found

What exactly is going on here? I want to make a new live stick for Xubuntu but I can't install mkusb. I dimly remember being able to dd the iso..

So I'm on manjaro. The power icon on the taskbar has stopped working correctly. Using the deepin settings the battery will show the correct % say,80 but the icon will say 160%, always doubled.

Is there a way to reset the counter?

>>55962203
When did it stop working?
Did you change something?
Which tastkbar?
Which DE?

>>55962072
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
then retry

I'm using SDDM/KDE on Arch, I plugged the harddrive into older hardware and everything is booting correctly (except for a wireless usb that isn't plugged in anymore), but when gets to

[OK] Reached target Gracphical Interface

And then nothing happens...the login screen doesn't popup and I can't get X started in another tty because it's still trying to connect in the first one. I've tried to run it on Intel drivers, but get the same result. CTRL+C doesn't stop the process in the first tty.


Anyone have any ideas? I'm desperate for a even short term solution, I just need quick access to the Mendeley GUI to retrieve a bibtex file.

>>55962360
Which graphics card are you using?

>>55962390
A nvidia GTX 750 using nouveau drivers.

I also unintalled the nouveau drives tried to use the Intel Haswell's built in video (with Intel's drivers) but it didn't change anything.

how can i start thunderbird on startup_minimized to tray? (xubuntu)

>>55962438
I don't have any experience with that I'm afraid. If you can log in to a tty then and look at the logs, I expect there will be some info there.
Any of those apply to you? Some look similar - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA/Troubleshooting

>>55962273
That worked, thank you. How did that get uninstalled? I could swear I added repos before...

>>55962267

As of yesterday. Nothing changed. Just had low power, put on charge, came back and it showed 200%. It's manjaro deepin community edition so, deepin launcher at a guess?

>>55962504
Try an earlier kernel.

>>55962494
Thanks anyway.

I've been on the Arch forums and a few people had similar issues unfortunately none of the solutions worked for me, seems like a lot of different things can cause this so I guess diagnosing it is going to be a bitch.

Anyone know a good way to keep a 980ti up to date on drivers for gnome/ubuntu? Im looking at instructions for the latest drivers but I was thinking instead of installing these directly I might want to add a repository as a better method.

Anyone using current nvidia drivers right now who could tell me what method is working best? I have 3 screens to drive and 2 are 4k amd card just wont cut it.

>>55962532

How to change kernel? Could there not be a way to find the process of battery indicator or something similar and disable it?

>>55962570
Look on the manjaro wiki to change the kernel, as far as I remember you can do
>sudo mhwd-kernel -l
to list them, I don't remember which option it is to install, -i maybe. If you already have two installed then boot in to the earlier one.
The kernel is often the culprit with battery indicator problems. I wonder if you updated the kernel a while ago and have only just rebooted and noticed that it has broken now.

Ubuntu 16.04 noob here

I installed VLC as snap package (sudo snap install vlc). It says it's installed, but I can't open it.

It doesn't find it through Dash and can't see it when I R-click a video file.

>>55962703
Your $PATH probably just needs updating, it should happen automatically but you could try logging out and back in again.

>>55954805
What's the best android rooting software for GNU/Linux?

>>55962734
Thanks, that worked, meaning I can find it and open it "manually".

Any way to set it as default player, or at least as an option when I R-click a video? Because right now it's not listed.

>>55962784
Not sure, there's probably something for it in the settings for default applications. Is there any reason you installed it as a snap package? Maybe uninstall it and try with a regular install method.

If systemd is so bad, why nearly all major distro adopted it?

what is the best distro and why is it arch?

>>55962821
>>55962832
samefag

No sure which shell to use.
BASH, zsh or fish?

>Coding a website.
>upload my files to the server
>download them back
>encoding is not the same
Any idea why ? it's just utf-8 without bom. Is it the server or filezilla that change it ?

>>55962832
>what is the best distro

windows

>>55962840
>>>/b/
>>55962867
>>>/trash/

>>55962848
POSIX sh or Bash

>>55962848
zsh.

bash is antiquated shit that lacks a bunch of features. fish has some nice features but breaks bash/sh compatibility, which will bite you in the ass in subtle ways when you least expect it.

zsh is the golden middle road.

>>55962923
>bash is antiquated shit that lacks a bunch of features.

Which features?

Can someone quickly confirm this command for me, please?

Getting a new notebook on monday and I want to make an image of the whole disk to restore it to "factory settings" if necessary before I do anything with it. So I'd just do:

dd if=/dev/sda of=/$PathToExternalMedia bs=1M

right? And that would create an image with a size of the data on the disk, so probably 10-30GB, instead of the whole disk size of 500GB?

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>mint cinnamon works really well on my machine, no screen tearing, random shit breaking or anything else
>laptop is a bit old, cinnamon might be a bit too resource-heavy for it
>battery life has gone to shit even with powertop and tlp

What's a good distro/de combo that's resource-light, but not shitty?

XFCE doesn't seem to work well on this machine (Fn shortcut keys won't map), MATE is okay but noticed a bit of screen tearing when watching videos.

What do?

Just finished my GPU Passthrough setup.

The problem is that I don't want to have two keyboards and mouse connected just for the system.

Synergy also adds significant delays, so while I use the native USB on the VM, the Synergy user, which is the GNU/Linux machine, suffers a lot.

Any other viable option besides a KVM switch to use my keyboard and mouse?

>>55962939
2 that just jump to mind:
- Easily searching history for a particular command: I can just type `ssh' and press up to get the last ssh command I used. In bash you can go through history with up, but not restrict it to a particular command

- Protecting you from clipboard attacks: You shouldn't copy commands from the internet and paste them into your terminal, but many people do it anyway. An attacker can use CSS to hide part of the command and finish with a linebreak, so you're instantly executing malicious code as soon as you paste.
zsh protects you from this by not executing when a linebreak is pasted, instead showing the full multiline command and only executing when you press enter.

There's many more, but these are just two dealbreakers that jump to mind.

>>55962923
zsh is for people who can't configure their PS1 themselves or read manpages

Most stuff zsh provides can easily be done with bash and the left zsh features aren't enough to replace a standard shell.

I guess most people installed zsh the arch way: because they've seen it on others screenfetches.

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>>55960512
>Should I make a temporary snapshot of the online pool, send it to the offline pool, and delete the snapshot?
Just checked, that doesn't work. It makes me send everything from scratch every time.
Still looking for working solutions.

>>55962960
No, that copies everything. Including the free space between your data.

>>55962987
Bash can do those things too.

>>55962987
>Easily searching history for a particular command
man bash / history-search-backward

>Protecting you from clipboard attacks
You already posted the only sane solution:
>You shouldn't copy commands from the internet and paste them into your terminal

>>55962923
>>55962990
Anything other than Bash is hipster trash

>>55962821
convenience.
There's good things and there is bad things in systemd. it's the same for any software, you'll always find pros and cons, but with systemd it reached a new level.

>judecnelson blogspot fr/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html
see #2

>>55962832
A good distribution is the one that suits your needs. That's a personal point of view and no one give a shit about what you prefer because your life is worthless.

>>55962848
bash. If you can't tell why you should switch to another one, you probably shouldn't.
You can still try them and make your own idea on the subject.

>>55962971
see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
Distribution doesn't matter as long as you have a light DE, xfce, lxde and mate.
Else you can still try a WM.

>>55962990
>the arch way: because they've seen it on others screenfetches
kek

welp, zsh is a very good shell, but it makes only sense for advanced users, people should learn the basics of a shell before learning individual, shell-specific features

>gui vs tui
>zsh vs bash
>vim vs emacs
>tabs vs spaces
>tmux vs screen
>arch vs debian
>linus vs stallman
did I miss something?

>>55963268
>systemd vs sysvinit
>tiling vs floating
>X vs Wayland

>>55963268
>>55963351
This can be shortened to:
>my e-penis vs your e-penis

>>55962848
bash

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>>55962992
Figured out incremental sending. A bit of hassle, but it's basically what I need.

>>55962848
zsh
bash is complete shit when you go back to it after using zsh. No proper globbing or completion.
>inb4 bash has globbing and completion
no it doesn't when compared to zsh.

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Red pill me on printing in linux?
I'm using HP F300 deskjet printer with HP Device manager running arch.

>>55963782
sauce it

>>55963782
who's that qt tho

>>55963737
>inb4 bash has globbing and completion
>t. my ass

>>55963782
>>>/a/

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>>55963782
install gentoo

zdoom or gzdoom?

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>>55963902
How cute, /g/ being tsundere to anime.

I have been using gnu/linux for a while now, but I haven't learned much about how it works
where should I start? any recommended books?

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>>55963809
It's from an anime called "New Game!".

>>55963968
>>55964001
see >>55963902

>>55964001
T-thanks anon-kun.

>>55964014
4chan is an anime image board. feel free to leave or learn how to use a filter, newfriend.

>>55964038
4chan is a website, the anime board is /a/, this is the technology board.

>>55964038
>I-I'm a cute, shy girl, r-really

>>55964064
Thanks for confirming your new-ness, newfriend.

>>55964079
Only newfags call newfags newfags.

>>55964090
Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel cool.

>>55964078
Only in the weekends.

>>55964001
thanks cunt

>>55963268
>>55963351
>gui vs tui
both if desktop
>zsh vs bash
bash
>vim vs emacs
vim
>tabs vs spaces
spaces
>tmux vs screen
screen
>arch vs debian
both, maybe none of them depends what you're looking for
>linus vs stallman
both
>systemd vs sysvinit
both
>tiling vs floating
preferences, don't matter
>X vs Wayland
wayland

>>55963782
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS/Printer-specific_problems#HP

>>55963993
http://tldp.org/guides.html
you should find almost everything here. Maybe some stuff are outdated.
I recommend you :

>Introduction to Linux - A Hands on Guide
not everything will be useful, you might skip some parts.

>Linux Filesystem Hierarchy
explain everything about it. It might talk about some outdated stuff, like configuration file of old software on /etc...

>The Linux Kernel
if you want to know more about how the kernel works

>GNU/Linux Command-Line Tools Summary
if you want to learn the CLI

and then you got the two bash guide + the system programming and kernel programming guide if you want to go even further. You also have administrating, networking etc.

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I don't know if I should do dwm or xmonad or bspwm

>>55964717
try all of them, i prefer dwm

>>55964717
try all of them, i prefer bspwm

>>55964717
try all of them, i prefer xmonad

>>55964717
When I searched for the right tiling wm, I found that watching demonstration videos on youtube is pretty helpful. Skips the try all of them part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_aA

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>>55964473
Thanks, I managed to get it to work.
How do I set how fast to print?
It seems slow to me, is there setting to make it print faster? quality isn't that much important.
Also regarding Libre writer, what's printer language type? It's set to PDF, could this be the reason it's slow?
There is postscript level 1,2,3 as well.

>>55964821
see >>55964014

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>>55964821
you should find a printer manager, where you can manage everything related to it, like size of pages, quality, colour or not, etc.
pic related.

it's called system-config-printer if it's not installed in your system

>>55964717
You can do the same in all three. The difference is do you want

1) to write C and recompile each time you make a change
2) to write Haskell and recompile each time you make a change
3) to use simple commands to edit the dm on the fly


Your choice, ಠ_ಠ.

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>>55964837
Do you have something against cute girls?
>>55964884
There don't seem to be such an option under HP device manager, mon ami.
At least things regarding quality.
There is print quality under Libreoffice writer though.
Which is faster draft or normal?

So I'm trying to install arch via arch-anywhere. I got through the entire installation and hit the reboot button, but now it's failing to boot into the OS.

Giving me:
>EDD: Error 8000 reading sector 36023
>Failed to load COM32 file boot/syslinux/reboot.c32
>boot: _

>>55965239
You probably didn't go through the entire installation

>>55965267
I don't see how I didn't. After "additional software" it sent me back to a menu where I could reboot, shutdown, chroot into the new system, or repeat install DE/WM or repeat additional software.

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>>55965239
Just do it manually.

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rare stallman

>>55965239
Is grub loading after you reboot?

>>55964905
compiling and installing dwm takes ~10 seconds max and the config is well commented though.

>>55965449
no, I'm able to go back into arch-anywhere tho and see my partitions via cfdisk

>>55965523
problem solved, my harddrive was not part of the boot order apparently...

>Xfce
>Mate
>LXDE
which is the least resource intensive?

How do I run Morrowind on Loonix?

>>55965912
look for openMW or just WINE.

>>55965976
Would steam even allow me to open morrowind on linux? I say that just because I don't want to switch to windows just to play a bethesda game

>>55966053
Play on console. It's designed for gaming.

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>>55966071
REEEEEEEEEE
ITS ON SALE RIGHT NOW ON STEAM
AHHHHHHHHHHH

>>55954805
>newest firefox
>ubuntu 16.04
>open catalog on 4chan of any board
>browser freezes for 2 seconds and then proceeds to loard normal

anyone else got this problem here? I have no fucking idea why this could happen. Didn't have the problem on 14.04.

what can i use to split a movie into two parts as fast as possible before playing it?
i am used to watching movies with two vcds/dvds, and i don't want to keep checking how many minutes have passed.

>>55966191
What?

>>55966180
>using the catalog
What is wrong with you

>>55966244
some threads aren't on the first page

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>>55966226
program
to split a movie
into 2 parts
one movie
2 files
fast
get it?

>>55966362
wat

>>55966362
that's dumb

>>55966362
FFmpeg
>>55966299
That's why thee are more than one pages.

>>55966191
>i am used to watching movies with two vcds/dvds, and i don't want to keep checking how many minutes have passed.
>>55966362
explain

>>55966362
Why would you want to destroy a movie?

>>55966362
ffmpeg -i gayporn.mp4 -c:a copy -c:v copy -t 01:00:00 gayporn-1.mp4
ffmpeg -i gayporn.mp4 -c:a copy -c:v copy -ss 01:00:00 gayporn-2.mp4

>>55966392
>>55966413
>>55966418
>>55966434
>>55966458
fagits
>>55966671
thanks m8. is this the fastest way? it splits at 80 fps. ;_;

Has anyone ever tried arch linux in hyper-v? I can't get the screen resolution to increase at all.

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I have a build with one 256gb ssd and one 2tb hdd. I have installed mint on half of the ssd with the 2tb as /home. Would it be possible to install arch on the other half of the ssd and make the distros share homepartition?

>>55966846
If you use different account names and don't encrypt the home partition there shouldn't be any conflicts.

If you do encrypt the home partition, you will need to share the encryption key with both distros somehow.

I'd advise against using the same account name on both.

>>55966743
Since the codecs are copied, it should be finished in some seconds.

>>55966053
Install OpenMW and PlayonLinux.
Install Steam in PlayonLinux.
Install Morrowind in Steam.
Point OpenMW to Morrowind folder in virtual drive.
Play some Morrowind.

>>55967031
Why should he install all this crap?
What's wrong with wine?

>>55966964
The account name... i wouldnt have tought of that

>>55967063
He'd have to install Wine, Steam and MW in any case.
OpenMW completely replaces the MW engine which has some perks like improved performance, improved graphics and some fixes like cliff racers not being quite as annoying as in vanilla MW. It's worth it IMO.

What's a good terminal emulator?

>>55967096
no he does not need wine. you can download windows binaries with steamcmd and use those for openmw

>>55967063
PlayOnLinux is Wine. It installs and preps "known good" configurations of Wine for each game to make the process of getting Morrowind (or any other game) running flawlessly, or as well as Wine is capable of so far.

Downside is that you end up with dozens of wine versions and wine bottles, one for each game you install, and despite claiming otherwise it doesn't always work that well. YMMV.

>>55967100
xterm

I need advice.

I just installed Debian Stable through netinstall, chose LXDE because it took least long to install. I just booted into it, and I want to upgrade to Testing, so that I can have the latest version of KDE plasma (last time I did this, I chose KDE and apparently upgrading with KDE installed/running may have caused fuckery).

Do I leave LXDE running, upgrade to testing, install KDE, and then uninstall LXDE? Or something else? How do I safely upgrade to testing, and how do I safely uninstall/reinstall/switch DEs?

Help would be much appreciated.

>>55967100
mine ;^)

What's the best new thread and why is it >>55967141 ?

>>55967126
can you you tell me to a food wine configuration to run Photoshop with intel GPU?

>>55967121
So he installs steamcmd instead of Wine, windows binaries instead of Steam and still has to install OpenMW and MW (for the assets).
In what way is that less convoluted?
He could even copy the MW assets to a different folder and delete Steam and Wine again after installing MW.

>>55967130
>xterm
how about unicode?

>>55967160
steamcmd is a smalle download

>>55967200
What about it?

>>55967100
there are a few, i am using st right now, but if you want something that just werks use gnome-terminal, urxvt or some other bloated one.

>>55967160
You dont need steam to run morrowind..

>>55967816
You need to install MW to get the assets and Steam is what he's looking to purchase MW through so I'm assuming he doesn't want to pirate and doesn't have a retail copy.