/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

gtk2 based firefox? Or how do I make firefox call the gtk2 file picker instead of gtk3?

>>55975898

You compile Firefox with gtk2.

>sticking desperately to an old, deprecated toolkit instead of improving the ne one

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>>55975908

I got an old laptop with a small ssd with linux on it. What's a program like windirstat to help me visualize my storage?

>>55976127
gnome has something for that.
but here is a list:
http://alternativeto.net/software/windirstat/?license=opensource&platform=linux

>>55976141

>>55976154
AMD64
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6
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>>55976142
Thank you very much Anon. I went with filelight and I am extremely satisfied.

Syntax question:

wget https://boards.4chan.org/"$1"
or
wget "https://boards.4chan.org/$1"
?

Does anyone else NEED to have terminal windows open to monitor "stuff?" I have one that just runs "ping google.com" so that I know I am online. Another that does "tail -f" on system.log. And a couple others that monitor various things. Just in case.

Just me?

>>55976405
Just stream them to the virtual console like all the normal people do. Dunno about other distribs, but Gentoo dumps system.log into tty12 out of the box.

>>55976436
That's good for system.log. I also know people who stream audio which, obviously, stops when the network goes down. I don't know. I just like to have them chugging away in a green on black terminal window. It always feels like something important is going on.

>>55976405
>monitor stuff
That what bars/panels are for.

>>55976405
>"ping google.com"
enjoy your botnet

>>55975927

What is your image supposed to convey?
You want your network mounts to appear there? Bookmark them.

>>55976482
Do you use it to solve stuff?
Because if you don't, it can't be important.

>>55976581
Come on, have some respect for his aspergers.

>>55976262
Try both and see which works.

>>55976709
Both work, I'm asking for the better practice.

>>55976709
Go away Steve.

>>55976581
The last two things I solved with it was to read a man page (for "otool") and cal, to read the calendar for this month. Stupid shit like that, usually.

And the idea of getting a botnet from pinging google.com is pretty silly. What I do know is that if my returns are much over 20 ms, something is wrong on the line.

>>55976744
>much over 20 ms
Where are you living, in California?

>>55976726
It doesn't really mattress.

>>55976756
>>55976709
If you don't know it, just don't post.

>>55976755
Nope, East Coast USA. But Google has local servers all over the place. That's why I don't ping an IP address.

>>55976744

> I do know is that if my returns are much over 20 ms, something is wrong on the line.

Yeah, totally.

>ping something
>looks good
>start maxing out my bandwidth
>ping skyrockets

Useless if you're browsing the internet normally, which is like 100% of the time. The only reason to use it is to test connectivity. By using the internet you can test your connectivity.

>>55976262
wget "https://boards.4chan.org/${1}/12345"
>>55976831
What if he doesn't want to use the internet, but just enjoy the thought that it works?

>>55976831
It's funny. Even when a browser is flipping out and using tons of cpu and bandwidth, the ping times to google.com stay pretty stable. I do use "top" to see if any processes are taking off (forgot to mention that). If it's some daemon, I'll just kill it (hey, they restart themselves) and if it is some userland app like a browser, I'll just kill and restart.

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/g/entoomen, I got a job in a small hospital, will someone indulge in my stupidity for few of the questions I have?

1. Are there some programs to use manage patients records, as well as to mange employees data?And some sort of system to contact/inform them of notices and such?

>>55976928
Sounds simple, writing one can't take more than a week

>>55976928
Some flavor of SQL? They must be arranged in some sort of database.

I need a good small program like Speccy that shows specs and GPU+CPU temps. The less setup needed, the better

>>55976960
Inxi -Fx

>>55976986
thanks bro this will do just fine

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>>55976943
>>55976955
Oh, I've should have clarified more.
It's difficult to describe, but how things work where I live isn't exactly optimum, in the middle of a third world country.
I do desk work most of the time.
And I'm looking for some programs to make job easier.
I've been searching and this is what I found
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_health_software

https://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/

yet, non seemed to do exactly what's needed especially for handling employees and notifying them.

It's a shitty third world country based on rigid bureaucracy.

>>55977052
>shitty third world country based on rigid bureaucracy
Russia? Just write one yourself for fuck's sake

>>55977052
You need two separate databases. One for employees and one for patients. Nothing you find online will be perfect for either one, so you will have to improvise to some degree. But they will both be based on some kind of SQL base. I think. You will have to set up the framework and if you are lucky, you can hire some data entry slob to input the data (which you will have to put into some usable form for them). If you're lucky, you will be starting from nothing.

Ok so i installed Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon last week (which was already unexpectedly troublesome, i'm new to this) and i still cannot boot into it regulary. It does work however when i boot with the option 'nomodeset' or in recovery mode. I have tried to install multiple drivers and packages but when i boot with defaults i get an error from the x.org server(?) saying 'caught signal 11: segmentation fault. sever aborting'. How would i approach this problem?

>>55977052
Nice titties. More?

>>55977106
By reading logs, namely xorg logs, kernel logs and system logs. But the most certain way is of course [spoiler]install Gentoo[/spoiler]

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>>55977080
Romania, I have no programing skills, in fact I have no degree in computer related stuff.
I was hired because I was young and with no criminal records and know how to operate a computer.
I work as a jack of all trade
I do have degree in electrical engineering though.
>>55977105
Thanks, but this solution isn't suitable for me.
I guess if you can't beat them, then join them.

Hey guys, I have a laptop with a 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD, I want to install Kubuntu on it. Now I do need Windows or OSX for the Adobe programs and some games I play so I do wish to dual-boot Windows and Kubuntu. Now my goal is to partition the SSD to 60GB for windows and 60GB for Kubuntu, and the HDD to 500GB for Windows and 500GB for Kubuntu. Now how should I go about it so that I can keep the current windows I have installed?

>>55977153
>spoiler
go back to /v/

>>55977326
Don't insult me. I'm from /a/

https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

Thoughts?

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Regarding printing under linux?
Is it recommended to use HP printer services?
Also what are the setting should be done to print fast/low quality?

>>55977106
update: it says on the mint 18 release notes that fglrx is not useable and that radeon/amdgpu will be defaulted instead. it doesn't say so in the xorg.conf however
how do i change it? the file is read-only

What is the best torrent client for CLI? Rtorrent, deluge, transmission?

>>55977374
The one I'm using.

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>paper icons together with the adwaita theme using nemo

can'tseeshit/10

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Can some one suggest me a portable distro with persistence?
What I want is a way to have my browser complete add-on, userscript, custom CSS with me.
In addition to some other applications.
Or how to make a copy of current OS to USB and make it bootable.

Why does my firefox scroll so laggy in ubuntu?
Only thing preventing me from actually adopting Linux is this shit.

Everything else scrolls fine but firefox is slightly laggy and choppy, still usable but not as good compared to Windows.

>>55977953
Looks like Windows is better for you.

>>55977953
There's a certain configuration in about:config that fixes this very issue. I forgot which one; google this shit. Also >>55977970

Can someone help me anons?
>>55977977

>>55977953
>using smooth scrolling instead of fixed line scrolling
Your fault

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Many of co-worker use it to exchange important info.
Is it safe? can I use it without giving my phone number? or use fake number?
And will using it under linux will compromise security?

>>55977953

I'm experiencing the same issue. It's not this >>55978142. I turned smooth scrolling off, but the overall scrolling is still lagging and it feels "heavy" and unresponsive. Not just the scrolling, general website viewing too. I assume it's because of the lack of hardware acceleration.
It's somewhat better on my laptop with newer hardware, but it shouldn't be that bad on my desktop with a CPU/GPU from 2007 (the same CPU/GPU has no problems on Windows).

Hi lads.

I think I'm going to throw Ubuntu on an old Lenovo G580 that's bogged down. It's mainly going to be used as a Netflix machine and word processor so I don't need it for much, but I am new to gahnoo/lehnucks.

Will all the drivers from Lenovo's site that say "X for Windows 8" work on Ubuntu?

i have encountered a very weird issue ive never before encountered.

im trying to get into go programming and ive set up gopath and got the plugin for vscode.
if i start vs code from the terminal everything works fine and as intended. however if i were to start vscode from the plasma launcher menu. it does not recognize my go path.
ive already checked the process users and in both cases its my username.

any idea what this issue could be?

running arch.

>>55978449
>using bloatbuntu on an old laptop
At least get the XFCE one. Or, better, use debian and don't install anything unnecessary.

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Is there a way to cleanly rename files like this into, for example Seinfeld S07E# - Title.mkv?

>>55978532
Alright, I'll use your distro of choice. Will the stock drivers work?

>>55978561
I use Gentoo on laptop and everything werks (at least everything that I wasn't too lazy to configure yet). I would guess that Debian, having a huge community and several enterprise distribs based on it, will have no problem in regards to drivers.

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>>55978620
Thanks buddy.

>>55978651
If installing Debian would be too difficult, take xubuntu. Using bigger DEs on old hardware is suicide.

>>55978545
filebot does that

>>55978683
I've been recommended Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Mint, and Debian. I figured I'd go with >it just werks to pop my Linux cherry.

>>55977310

Heh, I went out and got a separate 240gb ssd for kuntbuntu on my Windows gayman pc for dev work. I don't trust windows or myself with two os on one drive

>>55978744
>what is partitioning

Hello guys, I had a question:

I just began using a DE-less Debian (just i3 and lightDM) and was wondering: how can I change the error "beep" the laptop makes when you (for example) press Backspace multiple times on the terminal, to some other sound? On GNOME the default error sound is that of a drop, so I was wondering how I could go about messing with that.

Thank you very much in advance!

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>>55979094
>I just began using a DE-less Debian (just i3 and lightDM)

>>55979115
Why are you angry at me, mr. anon?

>>55979131
I'm not angry, I'm genuinely curious

>>55979148
Because on my desktop at home I just use Debian w/GNOME, and I felt like using my laptop as an experiment to try out lighter stuff, since I only use it for notes and coding anyway. So if I mess it up it's no big deal, I can always rely fall back on my just werks desktop

>>55979094
Here you go, anon: https://www.debuntu.org/how-to-turn-off-beep-from-virtual-console/

>>55979550
Oh shit, you said it was a drop sound.

(GNOME 3) Settings > Sound > Sound Effects

I have a directory full of folders, and a file inside each.

Folder1
-> File1.jar
Folder2
-> File2.jar
Folder3
-> File3.jar
Folder4
-> File4.jar
Folder5
-> File5.jar


How can I select all folders, and at once bring the files up to the same level as the folder? In other words move all the files to the same directory as the folder.

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How the fuck am I supposed to properly theme this monstrosity?

>>55979608

find . -type f -name "*.jar" -exec mv {} . \;

>>55979661

I would have to do that one folder at a time. I said all at once.

>>55979664
No, it'll find all the *jar files in the directories and bring them up

>>55979694

Ah, I was trying to change it. It works.

How can I turn this into something where I just type "moveup" in terminal and it does it?

>>55979664
Why do I keep wasting time with fucks like you

>>55979728
Make a bash script that contains the command and put it into /bin/

>>55979757
The first time I symlinked a script into /usr/bin, I felt like a fucking wizard

>>55979757

That's far too complicated for somebody who says it doesn't work before trying it.

Open the .bashrc and do

alias moveup='find . -type f -name "*.jar" -exec mv {} . \;'

Or whatever name you want.

>>55977334
BunsenLabs is a great continuation of CrunchBang.

>>55977334

>install debian/ubuntu yourself
>apt-get install openbox tint2

Voila.

>>55980001
>do I fit in yet, /g/?

>enter thread
>no one is showing their tits
You dissapoint me /fglt/....

>>55980492
Nobody likes manboobs, that's why.

>>55980535
Oh, but everyone likes manboobs, anon. Don't try to deny it.

>>55980569
I prefer DFC on either sex anyway.

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>>55977344
Anyone?

>>55980600
Read CUPS documentation.

>>55980600
I guess you're lost. You want to: >>>/a/

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>>55980623
>CUPS documentation
There is nothing on quality selection in it.
There's only documentation on APIs.
>>55980672
you must think "sqt" stands for "small questions thread"

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>>55978346
Will someone red pill me on this?

>>55980600
dumb weeaboo

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>>55975742
So I'm reading that AMD is fucking retarded and you can't run an AMD card + nVidia card for dual monitors in the same setup due to their Linux drivers.

Anybody have any experience with this? I was going to use my old AMD card for a GPU passthrough since that's confirmed to work, but apparently AMD can't play nice with nvidia drivers on Linux?

anyone here running Tumbleweed?

Having trouble with watching live streams through mpv with youtube-dl. I've tested youtube and twitch which seem to work but others e.g. BBC iplayer result in something like error: couldn't find plugin.

I assume it's something to do with flash player, however non-live flash videos seem to work fine with youtube-dl/mpv.

Am I missing a specific codec? Any ideas?

>>55980957
Maybe BBCplayer is shit?

>>55980978
It's only their live streams that don't work. Any random video on their site works.

Have the same problem with many other live streaming sites like ustream as well.

>>55980436

>i use a shitty niche distribution which comes with a bunch of unwanted things only because i can't install 2 simple packages myself

>>55981111
see >>55980436

>>55981142

Are you the guy who assembled that distribution? Because only they would get so mad and insulted by someone criticizing their distribution.

>>55981208
I just don't like stupid memers parroting other memers. We both know that neither Crunchbang, nor Bunsenlabs is simply openbox and tint2.

>>55981111
I was tempted to try bunsenlabs as my first distro. What unwanted shit do are you refering to? I trust you, quads of the wise.

>>55977344
Typically just werks for me and my Hp printer

>>55981322

What is it if not Debian with Openbox, tint2, conky and pre-installed themes? They don't change or contribute anything which constitutes the core features of a distribution.

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>>55981425
I'm asking because I noticed difference in speed between winblows and linux.
I'm guessing because of specific options in windows that I'm not sure how to replicate in linux.
But I'm not seem to be able to find it.

>>55981383

Why would you go with a niche distribution as your first distribution and not one of the few, proper, "core" distributions? Even more, why wouldn't you go for one of the "beginner friendly" core distributions? Which "exclusive" feature did impress you from that irrelevant distribution that made you choose it over a sane choice?

>>55981653
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux#Bunsen_Labs
This made me consider it.

Installed Xubuntu a few weeks ago and I love it. However I need Windows for a few programs ( Won't work in Virtualbox/Wine) so I wanted to install Win 7 so I could dualboot. I read that installing Windows 7 next to Ubuntu would delete the Grub bootloader so I made a bootable Usb with Super Grub Disk. Am I missing anything or would it work this way?

Is there any significant difference between "LUKS on LVM" and "LVM on LUKS"?

>>55981877
>need Windows for a few programs
?

>>55982057
WoW

>>55982070
wew

>>55981700

>buzzword buzzphrase buzzword buzzword: the article

>>55976542
Bookmarking doesn't work

>>55982193

How did you bookmark it? Let me guess, you used a GTK2 file manager (Thunar as seen in your picture). Use a GTK3 tool, like Nemo, Nautilus or use Firefox's file dialog (right click "Add to bookmarks").

>>55982070
That runs on Wine

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So on Debian Testing, can I install a package from Jessie or Jessie Backports and be alright?

I need drivers for this spare AMD card, bu the package "fglrx-driver" was removed from the testing repo. It's strictly just to run a spare monitor on, because I wanted to use VGA passthrough on my main GTX 770. Open source drivers seemed to be having none of my bullshit though, so I wanted to try the nonfree drivers.

>>55981653
I want to learn Linux as fast as possible. I'm running Void.

>>55982593
>I want to learn Linux as fast as possible.
L F S
F
S

Or Slackware

>>55982636
LFS isn't a real distro and isn't Slackware only for old fucks that don't mind using old software? What's the appeal of Slackware?

The problem I have with the newb friendly distros are how fucking big and bloated they are. I want a rolling release distribution with Vanilla packages. The Arch community is too edgelordy for me so I chose Void.

>>55982279
>"Add to bookmarks
That's what I did. Try it yourself, it won't show

>>55982678
/g/ is not the arch community.

>>55982678
So you want to learn Linux or you want a working distribution? Void is a literally who distrib, just install Gentoo. I'm using it for the very same reasons.

>>55982701
They're even more edgelordy outside of /g/. Arch users unironically believe they're running the most "hardcore" distribution. I don't want to be a part of that.

>>55982678
>The Arch community is too less edgelordy for me so I chose Void.

FTFY

>>55982754
It's only a who distribution because people don't use it because it's a who distribution. There's nothing wrong with the actual distribution. Everything has worked on it for me and it's fast as a mother fucker.

It's literally Good Arch™ without systemd

What are some /GNU/ approved backup solutions? It would be nice if they were cross-platform.

>>55982776
>Good Arch™ without systemd
1. Arch is well known for it's AUR and Arch Build System
2. Anything but systemd is just a hipster trend. That's why all relevant distros use systemd

>>55982776
The smaller the community is, the more broken, unfixed or outright forgotten shit it contains.
>Unlike trillions of other existing distros, Void is not a modification of an existing distribution. Void's package manager and build system have been written from scratch
Commendable attitude, but the overall stability is questionable. Unless you want and are ready to fix what need fixing yourself.

>>55982821
>Eat shit; millions of flies can't be wrong.

>>55982678
You need to be 18 to use this site

>>55982821
Typical Arch user, everyone.

>>55982807
I don't get how people use backups

I set up SSH in all devices, including my phone

>>55982836
>Don't eat meat, the hundreds of hipsters cannot be wrong

>>55982840
>out of arguments
>post memes instead

>>55982850
see >>55982861

Here we go
Hipster Arch vs Even more hipster Void (of users and packages)

Can I set up an Android device as a Server? How would I proceed to do it? Has anyone tried it before?

>>55982840
I don't really agree with this myth that arch is a minimal system, either. There's just a very loud userbase that parrots the same shit over and over again. It just really feels like an edgy teenager distro.

>>55982916
Void is simply superior to Arch, though. If there is another good rolling release distribution out there that can compete I'm willing to try it. Tumbleweed? Sid?

Ok, so I'm not a complete noob to linux but I have never officially ran a distro as my main OS. I'm a Unity3D developer as my main job and while I do build for iOS, I recently got a really good laptop (costs $4k) and I would like to run Linux. I'm a heavy vim user and I generally like keyboard driven workflows. I'm interested in AwesomeWM (I'm looking forward to a lua based config and scripting).

Unity3D only officially supports Ubuntu, but I wanted to know if I can go with something else that's a.) more lightweight b.) easy to install AwesomeWM c.) not necessarily geared towards beginners. I'm concerned about the compatibility with Unity3D, so I'm willing to play it safe, but I don't want half the shit ubuntu brings, including the WM and DE.

>>55982966
>If there is another good rolling release distribution out there that can compete
Gentoo
inb4 le compilation time meme

>>55982916
Don't miss the outcome tonight, on fiercly gnu linux thread

>>55982969
Continuing;

Since I need to make XCode builds, my plan was to have a virtual machine with a hackintosh. That way I can at least keep doing that. Thoughts?

>>55982982
What are the benefits to running Gentoo in CURRENT YEAR?

>>55982853
Have fun having your SSH bruteforced by the Chinese.

>>55982966
>Void is simply superior to Arch
It has no packages, doesn't have the AUR, poorly hacked together DEs and display servers without systemd do you expect employed people to actually use void seriously outside VM?

>>55983011
lol retard what are ssh keys

>>55983001
Rolling release
Not bloated
Great package manager
Faster programs due to processor optimisation and managing useflags
No systemd
Sense of superiority

>>55983014
>poorly hacked together DEs and display servers without systemd

I thought only Gnome was that intertwined with systemd? And isn't Arch all about keeping packages Vanilla? Which is it?

>>55983043
I've heard from some people that "managing useflags" becomes a nightmare after a while. What do people mean by this?

I appreciate the minimalism and choice that Gentoo/Funtoo offer but is it necessary to take it THAT far on modern hardware?

>>55982969
>a.) more lightweight
Why? Can't your 4k machine handle it?
b.) easy to install AwesomeWM
What makes you think this would be hard on Ubuntu?
c.) not necessarily geared towards beginners.
Why? You sure sound like one.
d.)I don't want half the shit ubuntu brings
Minimal installation exists, or just purge it.

>>55983048
Yes, vanilla Cinnamon, KDE5, Budgie, Wayland, Pulseaudio requires systemd

>>55983073
"Managing useflags" is writing like 20 global ones into make.conf when installing the system and taking 30 seconds to think about features you need when installing new software. Portage will add necessary useflags to dependencies himself if they are lacking.

>>55983073
Also, "optimisation" is something of a joke in Gentoo. I mainly use it because it's a good rolling release distrib with good support and no systemd bullshit.

>>55983075
Ok, I googled a bit and saw that I can just install the server version of Ubuntu. Would that be a good way to go about it? Just found this as well...

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

>>55983079
>Wayland

Seriously? I really don't like the systemd politics, but it looks like I might have no choice but to accept it. I haven't been around long but it's a bit eery how quickly all the major distributions adopted it despite the outcry from the community at the time.

Just wondering, why are 90% of questions in this threads related to Arch? Isn't Arch for advanced users?

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>>55983215

>>55983215
Most of /g/ uses Arch and Ubuntu

>>55983210
Standardisation

>>55983215
Arch is mostly used by people who want to seem smart. Which is why it has so big, deep and extensive wiki.

>>55983225
Shouldn't advanced users be able to read the Wiki?

>>55983252
That doesn't negate the fact that most people use those distros

>>55983215
>>55983247
>>55983225

Seriously, why is Arch deemed to be advanced? Just because it doesn't have a UI installer? Is that it?

>>55983264
Arch is not as advanced. It rather is quite comfy. No DIY distro is newbie friendly though

>>55983264
Also because you decide what software to install.

>>55983291
Literally every distro can do this

>>55983287
>implying that comfy is the opposite of advanced
Gentoo beats Arch in both

>>55983310
I actually would use Gentoo but it really takes a lot of time.

For now FreeBSD seems more legit than Gentoo

>>55983252
We have.
It's because 90% of the issues we have are not answered in the wiki, also the wiki itself is more of like headlines, not very extensively detailed.
And sometimes asking here instead of following some instruction on the wiki is much more safer.
I once had an issue when my sound stopped working, after following several guides on the wiki, the answer came from an anon in this board, which was "shake the whole thing"
It worked.
Finally we use arch for the AUR and debian/ubuntu for stability.

>>55983308
Most distros come pre-assembled.

>>55983322
It takes a lot of time to install and much less to use. But man, is it comfy.

>>55983324
>we use arch for the AUR
You are aware that the AUR is basically nothing but a git wrapper?

>>55983287
>>55983264
>>55983310

How is recovery on Arch and Gentoo?
More so how do you all have it set up?

Do you guys spin your own installer script to reinstall?

>>55983337
Most of them offer minimal installations though

>>55983337
You clamed only on Arch the user decides which software he can install. Are you stupid?

>>55983356
Snapshots?

>>55983369
I meant on installation of the distro.

>>55983349
Yes, and it's popular because it convenient

>>55983366
That's an option, not the norm, and not what beginners are advised to go for.

>>55983397
It's stupid and insecure.
>>55983391
>what are netinstalls

>>55983356
Interested in this as well.
>>55983389
Care to elaborate?

>>55983411
If upstream is insecure you have some serious issues

>>55983420
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/full_system_backup_with_rsync
http://www.pointsoftware.ch/howto-local-and-remote-snapshot-backup-using-rsync-with-hard-links/

>>55983426
Do you know how the AUR works?
You're installing random stuff literally who pushed on his shithub.

>>55982776
>>55982821
>>55983043
>>55983048
>>55983079
>>55983210
>systemd

I'm gonna ask this again: As an end user, what effect does systemd (or whatever init process) have on me? As far as I can tell, it doesn't affect me in any way whatsoever.

How can so many people make such a shitstorm out of something that isn't significant or noticeable to end users?

>>55983480
Yes, The packages that are developed in systemd in mind may crash eventually if you don't have it. Most distros come with it already.

>>55983458
Thanks guy

>>55983480
systemd is including a office suite next update

>>55983478
If the devs upload it to github, thats where you get the package from

>>55983480
I heard that systemd allows irl bricking your hardware.

>>55983480
Binary logs trigger me.

>>55983498

Q: What effect does systemd have on end users? Why the huge shitstorm?
A: Yes.

"Yes" doesn't answer either of my questions. Did you reply to the wrong person?

>>55983529
>binary
wat

>>55983546
Systemd stores logs in binary format. Which is as stupid as it sounds. You can still read them using systemd, though

>>55983536
?

Software crash effects users

>>55983478
There is stuff like that, and there are cases where someone just packages someone else's project. Do you know how the AUR works? Now, you'll have to the same thing even Windows-users have to do, and actually think before installing shit form the interwebs. Wow.

Why isn't GRSecurity/PaX integrated into the kernel by default?

You don't even need to enable the things that require configuration to be usable. Just cover up the glaring holes in linux' security and let the people who really care lock their systems down for real.

I'm not being a paranoid kook here. GRSecurity/PaX fixes some embarrassingly basic flaws.

>>55983571
>GRSecurity
Because it's not from the Linux foundation. It's upto the distros if they want to shipt with it or not.

I think Oracle linux comes with it

>>55983564
>Now, you'll have to the same thing even Windows-users have to do, and actually think before installing shit form the interwebs
In self-respecting dystros installing stuff from the dystro repository should not break the system

>>55983571
No one keeps you from using it.
Have fun to see some software crash.

>>55983591
The AUR is not the distro-repository of any distro

>>55982807
rsync, dd

>>55983499
> Systemd office suite
...is that for real? I'd like to see that.

>>55983528
It is possible to delete some EFI variables or something when you have systemd and that will brick your hardware. I can't remember if they fixed it or not.

You have to be fucking around to do it - I'm talking either running rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root (why in christ's name anyone would do that is beyond me - just fucking format the partition if you need to wipe your computer) or hunting down a specific folder somewhere and deleting that intentionally.

>>55983563
Sorry, it took me awhile to decipher your broken English. Here's how I would've said the same thing:

>Yes, The packages that are developed in systemd in mind may crash eventually if you don't have it. Most distros come with it already.
becomes
>Systemd sucks because some packages that are developed with systemd in mind may crash unless systemd is installed.

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>>55983559
> systemd crashes
> need systemd to read logs

hmmm

>>55983626
>This much mental gymnastics
lmao. Nice try though, here it goes again:

"Systemd is needed because usrland softwares require it. If you don't have systemd, expect crashes"

>>55983616
>It is possible to delete some EFI variables or something when you have systemd
You really shouldn't believe any shit you hear on the internet

>>55983634
Apparently you can configure syslog-ng or whatever to re-dump logs into text files from systemd log services. But that isn't the default solution. Anyway I agree, making logs binary isn't just a very stupid thing by itself, it's also telling about people who wrote systemd and the systemd as a whole.

>>55983690
You should educate yourself about the topic before posting nonsense. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402

>>55983718
systemd cucks btfo

>>55983718
You should educate yourself about the topic before posting nonsense.
It's the Kernel who exposes the variables to the system, not systemd.
It is possible to delete those variables without system just fine if you want to.

It should even be possible to delete those variables without bricking your system, but some hardware developers fucked it up.

>>55983718
>mount as r/w
>rm -rf /
>waa systemd deleted everything

>>55983718
>poettering commented on Jan 30
>I am deleting a number of insulting or completely off-topic messages now. Please find another place to troll, thank you.

kek

>>55983792
rm -rf / shouldn't destroy your hardware

bad scripts happen
>steam
>bumblebee

>>55983902
>rm -rf /
did exactly what you told it to do

How useful is a linux system without systemd?

>>55983926
Look at BSD

>>55983926
You need an init system. OpenRC (Manjaro has spins) is a good alternative. There's also runit (Void as example is using it).

>>55983926
>implying linux wasn't useful before systemd

>>55982593

What does you distribution have to do with learning about the Linux kernel?

What's the best Linux calendar server application?

>>55983079

>wayland requires systemd
[citation needed]
How can a protocol require systemd?

Is there a way I could put

watch -n 1 -d sensors

and
htop

at the same time?

I've got all my music on one PC running GNU/Linux, but I want to listen to it on another PC, also running GNU/Linux, the one i'm using now. What's the best way to do this? (stream it from one pc to another)

>>55983982
I want something that will force me to become a terminal guru.

Sort of related:
https://devuan.org
Thoughts?

>>55984058
https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/

>>55984056
Just to clarify, both computers are wirelessly connected to the same LAN.

>>55984056
mpd

>>55984057

How will becoming a "terminal guru" teach you anything about the Linux kernel?

>>55984053

Yes, open two windows with terminal emulators or use a terminal multiplexer.

>>55984089
thanks

>>55984053
Just open 2 Terminal Emulator windows?

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What's a good lightweight distro?

I tried Lubuntu and it idled at ~900mb memory usage. I tried Manjaro with LxQT and it idled around 275mb, but barely works for 30 minutes without freezing or the desktop fucking up.

Is Debian lightweight?

>>55984091
Which distribution would you recommend?

>>55984110
dumb frogposter

>>55984124
I didn't notice the frog until you posted this.

I'm thinking of switching to CentOS.

>>55984110
>Is Debian lightweight?
If you do the netinstall, it's as lightweight as Arch. That said, you can basically make any distro lightweight, just use a lightweight WM.

>>55984149
Gosh Anon, thanks for telling us

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>>55984124
You are on 4chan m9

>be you
>goes on Facebook
>spams "dumb selfie posters" on all profile pics

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Has this ever happened to anyone? Negative speed?

>>55984171
pepe is dead, it's a normalfag meme now and never posted correctly

>>55984110
It's as lightweight as you make it.

I used an old machine with openbox that functioned well

>>55984151
>If you do the netinstall, it's as lightweight as Arch
if by that you mean half the installation size with separated libs/executables and a deblobbed kernel.
>>55984110
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

>>55984184
So, what unrelated meme should we post now?

>>55984117
Linux from scratch

fucking no one here uses OpenSUSE?

Tumbleweed looks pretty bleeding edge but has retard-proof backups.

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>>55977655
ALO FEGETU
ARC FLATABOULOUSSESSE

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>>55984171
Pepe is a normalfag meme. Not even joking.

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Is Fedora a good beginner distro?

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>>55979655
>not using Gnome 3.20 + Numix icons + Arc-Flatabulous Theme

>>55984298
>numix
>arc
perfect normalfag theme

>>55979655
>what are the best win...
how does it end?

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>>55984285
are you a virgin? if not, no.

What is the best IDE for loonix, preferable free

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>>55984319
so? it looks good

>>55984351
>poo memes
see >>55982840

>>55984362
emacs or vim
otherwise https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software#IDEs

>>55984398
Seriously, this isn't /pol/. Fuck off.

>>55984406
thanks

>>55984373
My eyes, please, take it away

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Anons, is some autocomplete for vim that works like in Sublime?

>>55984473
yeah, Jedi

>>55984473
>>>/a/

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>>55984280
Fuck this. Just because they stole it doesn't mean it's theirs.
It is known that every dank meme on the internet comes from 4chan.
The only memes that originate elswhere in the interwebs are shitty forced memes.
Pepe is ours.

>>55984373
>GNOME
>Choosing looks over simplicity and functionlity

>>55984373
>hello_world.py

>>55984091
>>55984109
I'm on tmux and I want it on a single pane

>>55984561
>looks can't be functional

>openSUSE installation takes over an hour

How the fuck is this acceptable in current year?

>>55984373
>desktop icons
Welcome to 1997

>>55984605
Looks are the opposite of functionality.
Haven't you ever heard of vim?

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So, I am looking for a new browser that is friendly with Linux, I am using Firefox.
Was thinking about switching to either Chrome or Opera, what do you guys think? Do you have any other suggestion?

>>55984507
It's not like in Sublime, i need to hit a key for it to start.

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>>55984613
install gentoo

>>55984545
You don't see anyone here posting rage comics or advice animals anymore. It's time to give pepe up, the normalfags are making pepe more and more cancer as time goes on.

>>55984406

>he believes text editors are IDEs

How's being a virgin NEET?

>>55984664
GNU Emacs is an IDE and a text editor.

>>55984630
try firefox aurora/dev, icecat and uzbl.
>>55984664
>>55984678
emacs is an OS.

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>>55984545
>tfw it's normal to call normalfags normalfags

>>55984711
>emacs is an OS.
And that's why I love emacs. Pretty soon, I can be posting on /g/ from emacs with its new browsing coming soon.

>>55984766
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryWebBrowser
pretty sure you already can.

>>55984783
I already know about the simple text browsers. I'm referring to the webkit browser that's coming in emacs 25.

>>55984516
>>>/r/4chan

why should I use ubuntu? I mean, I even study CS but I still havent found anything I couldn't do better on windows. I installed it once but ended up always returning to windows

>>55984331
What's the best WM

>>55984735
What do you mean by this?

>>55984516
This is an anime website.

>>55984880
>once
>always
hahaha

No wonder you are too dumb

>>55975742
Fake. There's no way RMS would hold up a sign printed in Arial font.

>>55984648
with or without systemd?

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Is Arch Linux lightweight compared to Ubuntu?

>>55984908
Always without unless a program you simply love or need depends on systemd.

>>55984908
Without systemd oppression

*tips fedora*

>>55984903
on a previous computer I installed it and hardly used it. can't see any problem here

>>55984922
Specifically for Gentoo or just in general?

>>55984921
Minimal install ubuntu is said to be more lightweight than basic install of arch linux.

>>55984921
Arch:
>Install screenfetch
>Gives suggested packages

Ubuntu
>Install screenfetch
>It also installs scrot

Yeah, Arch repo is less bloated

>>55984934
but ubuntu is not a rolling release distribution

>>55984932
You should always avoid systemd unless you have to use systemd.
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd

>>55984928
>always
So how many times did you go back to winbabby then?

>>55984946
I understand the arguments against systemd but unfortunately it's the future of Linux.

>>55984951
7

>>55984964
So you installed linux once and went back to windows 7 times?

>>55984960
Slackware and Gentoo work without systemd by default and other distros can work without systemd. It's not right now and probably never will be a thing linux will require to use.

>>55984938
>Arch repo is less bloated
lol
>ships sources and binaries together
this is literally bloat nigga

>>55984979
maybe it was 6 or 8, I cant remember this well

>>55984986
May I refer you to The Arch Way™?

KISS!

>>55984993
So you installed Linux once and went back to windows 6 or 8 times?

Normal Thread: >>55984997

>>55985005
Maybe he only counts installing ubuntu as once and in reality tried it about 6-8 times.

>>55985005
yeah, it looks pretty much right

>>55984574
:^)

>>55984880
As a CS student, you shouldn't use babbys first Linux anyway. Install Gentoo.

>>55985063
thanks for a proper reply. but how can I motivate myself to use it? I would appreciate some tips on "transitioning"

>>55984880
>but I still havent found anything I couldn't do better on windows

then you haven't done any real programming

and why did you mention that you study CS? that's fucking discrete math and shit, CS has almost no programming in it. CE has more programming than CS.

>>55985189
because I see the majority of my teachers/classmates using ubuntu. also I know that some tasks from future semesters require ubuntu (some implementations on os). and yeah I never did much more than some shitty app

>>55979664
Wouldn't mv ./*/*.jar .. work?