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/g/torrent Day 2

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Last night we discussed making a KAT alternative that doesn't look like shit,
has the torrent sorting, and some of the social features KAT had. This will fill
the hole that KAT (and to some degrees torrentz) has left in the torrent
community, and with a little promotion could easily gain back some of the
users that KAT/Torrentz had that are still looking for a new home.

3 things we need to decided on are
1) Name (gtorrent was a /g/project from 2 years ago, though we could just out-seo them)
2) Whether to use a public project like github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo, with an already established and simple to configure torrent indexer which we can modify to fit our goal, or make our own from scratch
3) How many people want to help with this project.

Set up an IRC channel on irc.freenode.net at #gtorrents

Last thread >>55953379
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If you think /g/ is capable of anything more than making a logo, you're mistaken.
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I'll make the logo
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>>55967098
If I really wanted to risk doing this, and spend all the time on it, I would make it on my own without you plebs mooching off it.
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>>55967879
Oh i remeber lo/g/os good times
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>>55967901
I mean I'm more or less capable of doing it on my own, but as I said in the previous thread I like the idea of community projects that are actually done by the community and not just an elite few (eg. proj ascend etc). If it fails Ill likely see what I can do on my own, but I'm a PHP dev, so it would be super irresponsive and design would be pretty okay compared to every torrent site I've ever seen, but pretty meh compared to what some people could probably do.
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just make a private tracker to keep shitters out.
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>>55968184
this tbqh. make a ratioless semi-private tracker (you have to sign up to download). it worked out great for rutracker.
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Do what still needs to be done? What has been accomplished? Once the ground work for the site is done and the site is up and running, maybe deciding how large this site is proposed to get?
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>>55967098
Yeah I don't care about that, just tell me which is the best alternative that actually exists right now.
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>>55968218
yup, the only people to kick out would be hit and run types. Fuck that ratio shit, just seed for at least 2 days and we're good. Post a password "referral" in a thread once a week and call it good.
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>>>/b/
>>>/t/
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We already made /g/track, I don't have the address though because I'm not a filthy nigger pirate.

tl;dr /g/ has its own tracker already
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rip mutracker
rip gtracker
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/g/tracker was a thing. why? nobody knows. it existed when /g/ had a very very good ftp server. So nobody used the tracker. And tracker and website maintenance can be costly. Pointless too if nobody uses them. So it died.

Funny thing is, it may have survived if it didn't do the private meme. And if the ftp didn't make its existence worthless.
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how can you go on IRC without people knowing your IP and identity ?
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>>55968493
by using a vpn which isn't banned on irc. good luck finding one.
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>>55968373
>>55968480
>>55968485
GTracker is down because it was shit and had no content. This isn't just a tracker, but a KAT alternative. Social features, functional KAT-esque sorting (no other service has this), etc.
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>>55968554
I uploaded a few things but never invested myself into it
I'll do it if there's a next time

I'll upload all my exclusive stuff
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>>>/t/
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>>55968554
>Social features

I'll make the facebook page.
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>>55967098
Have I missed the bus? KAT down? I was using it yesterday, what's going down? What's the word on the street jive talking honky?
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focus on best quality content, make it decentralized and/or use an off-shore host (prq.se, ecatel, etc)
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>>55968800
I meant like on site, with comments, ratings, verified uploaders etc. A large number of the users on KAT were the only because of the online "friends" they made on the site. If we could achieve something similar the amount of recurring visitors would go up by a decent amount, and I'm already making a forum software on the side and integration shouldnt be too hard.

>>55968849
You're using a shitty malwarefilled mirror. kickass.to/kat.cr is down and down forever. If you try to register on the mirror you're on you'll either get a phishing page or a "disabled temporarily" because its not actually KAT and doesn't have any of those features. Just people capitalizing on its demise.
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>>55967898
Well meme'd
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>>55968903
Eh I'm more for, quantity > quality, personally. If you can say "this site currently has 7m torrents," that looks better for normies than saying "this site has amazing content, but only 1000 torrents."

Social features will make sure the good, user-submitted/exclusive torrents get promoted. Maybe if we implement advertisements in the future we can do btc payouts based on PPC and download count to give the larger torrent networks an incentive to post their content there exclusively.
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>>55968995
you're delusional.
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>>55969086
Really? All of the things I mentioned are done really easily. I already have code for the social features that Ive worked on for the last few months. Stealing magnet and torrent files from other services is a easy way to fill our database with torrents (every other service does it..), and with a user submission form on the side eventually makes that obsolete as soon as we get enough active users. Payouts may be a bit shady, but I have friends who have done it before with legal non-bittorrent file sharing sites, and it works well.
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If you're building a torrent index in 2016 that isn't distributed and easily replicated, you're doing something wrong.
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>>55967098

In all honesty IRC alone would be better, paired with a separate search engine with no links, 90 day retention + requests

I prefer receiving files via IRC for different reasons more than torrent

thoughts?
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>>55969426
I'm not really sure what you mean. I've only ever used IRC for chatting. I'm personally leaning towards making this more for normal people who maybe only use the internet for facebook, youtube, movies and porn. One of the main reasons gtracker failed was because it was made for /g/ by /g/. This will appeal to the masses, and doing some weird IRC/zernonet/tor thing will look scary to most normies.
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Needs a verified Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn login too
Don't want any pedos or turrists in
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I'm interested in contributing but I only know Java and basic Python and JS.
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>>55967898
I'll make a secondary logo
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>>55969600
Aight, I'm setting up a application form in a second so we know how many people are actually willing to help out with code etc. JS is always needed.
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>>55969538

IRC can DCC files through client on command via chatroom bot or via irc user initiated
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mutracker worked for a while.
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>>55967901
> I'm too autistic to work with other people
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>>55969621
Good, I'll make the logo for that.
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>>55969688
Thanks
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I'm down to program it if anyone is willing to fund such a project. (hosting)
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C++/JS/Python/Java dev here.
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>>55969666
A better idea would be to make a public git repo(s) for all the source code.
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Doesn't some /g/tard run a gog instance or something like that?
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If you'd like to be part of the first planning phase make a submission here. Anything you post will stay between me and you. Don't need to type a long essay, just some basic skills, and how to contact you. Everyone will be contacted when we move on to the next phase. /g/ will still be the main information place I hate when projects like these end up being ran by an elite few. Git will also probably happen in the future.

http://dongs.date/index.php?cgi=post
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>>55969733
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
>>55969600
>>55969897
Sorry for delay, but had to rewrite how the entire site worked.
>>55969909
Probably will, but for now its easier to know what kind of skills we have on hand.
>>55969984
a what?
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Torrent Archives
http://pastebin.com/knN28fdP

They can be used for making a new torrent search, or just for anyone who doesn't want to use the new KAT and TPB copies.
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>>55968521
Or just renting a VPS and configuring a bouncer.
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>>55970149
I meant GitLab instance. It'd be a replacement for GitHub since GitHub would take down the src in minutes.
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>>55970343
Is everyone here willing to use Gitlab though? The new official popcorntime project is still up months after, so I don't know if DMCA would be a huge problem.
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>>55970343
They won't care until it's up and running and popular enough to attract attention
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>>55967879
is the hastily scrawled yellow penis the logo?
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>>55970503
>>55967098

>yellow penis

too large, make it smaller
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I think we'll just use github for now since most of us already have github accounts. If problems occur we can change it later.

Use the application link (dongs.date) to send me your github email/username and I'll invite you.
https://github.com/gentooteam

>>55970524
OC?
>>55970503
You know it.
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>>55970597
>OC?
Are you really this new?
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>>55970524
>>55970597
That's the lo/g/os logo.
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>>55970628
I mostly browse /b/ don't cyber bulli
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/g/torrent is going nowhere until someone decides that they'll do the time when it gets shut down by the feds.
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>>55970661
Can't we use a host in a east european country?
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What's wrong with just using 1337x and rarbg?
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>>55970661
I'm willing to take care of that. I live in Norway so worst thing that can (historically) happen is that I get fined a couple hundred per torrent. Although if we run it like KAT was ran minus the mistakes it shouldn't really be a problem in the first place.
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>>55970708
The UI makes me want to kill myself and they don't have KAT style "torrent listing", which was KATs biggest feature.
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>>55970699
>>55970715
See >>55969241
Don't host it in one place, host it everywhere.
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host it in China, they will not help the jews
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what about the logo
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>>55970887
he's crying because the communists are going to torture and kill his family because he didn't win
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OP, I'll contribute on the conditions that you do the following:

- License as AGPLv3+
See https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html
It's basically GPLv3+ but is better designed for web based software.

- Let everyone keep the copyright of their own code
This will help prevent a person or group from relicensing it under a proprietary license.
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>>55970853
Would still need a frontend coordination server to handle all of this though. So there's still a single point of failure.

>>55970918
Without having read through the license yet, the last one sounds like a pretty good idea considering all the drama going on in various OS communities right now.
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I've invited everyone who made an application on dongs.date to the github org.. Check your emails.
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>>55967098
you are fucking retarded and a newfag if you think /g/ will be able to make something besides the logo. you need to go back to red.dit.
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>>55970918
Unless anyone has anything against it I actually like this license. If you send your email on dongs.date Ill invite you to the org.

>>55971201
Weird its worked on so many projects in the recent past and we've gotten to many volunteers on this one then. Also, you're loved ;)
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Can we use XMPP for communication?
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>>55971373
Why not IRC at that point?
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>>55971373
We have an IRC set up on irc.freenet.net #gtorrents (barely anyone there, but feel free to join in). Never used XMPP before, but if theres a lot of interest we might try and set up a chat room there as well.
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We need something Tor friendly. I'm not getting fucking v&.
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>>55971693
Don't worry if something happens Im willing to go down for it.
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>>55971700
It's not a question. I don't care if i have to finger fuck you with security. If you need IRC, find a Tor friendly IRC network.
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>>55971700
Welp, it's a honeypot
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>>55967098
No experience coding or anything, but I can list off some stuff I think might be useful and maybe make a few suggestions.

>Using bitcoin anonymously
ttps://bitcoinhelp.net/know/more/using-bitcoin-anonymously

>HUGE list of non-US hosting providers
http://comptutor.me/2015/04/03/offshore-hosting-and-servers/

>Article on preventing domain name seizures
http://comptutor.me/2015/05/25/prevent-domain-seizures/

>List of tracker software (mostly outdated)
http://comptutor.me/2016/05/01/torrent-tracker-software/

>Security shit you should read
https://ssd.eff.org/
https://www.privacytools.io/#resources

>HTTPS certificates easy + free
https://letsencrypt.org/

>Advice:
Use encryption: GnuPG, Veracrypt, LUKS, etc

Definitely put everything up on Github / Gitlab. Share code so the whole community can benefit.

Hidden service: https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services.html.en

Since you're just starting this a great opportunity to make a backup plan when LE starts shutting down your domains. Backup up your database(s) regularly.

All this shit needs to be considered if you're actually serious.
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>>55971746
Its only temporary. Just use a fake nick and a vpn if you really want.

>>55971772
lol I doubt we'll ever have any issues with hollywood if we're somewhat careful about linking our real life and piratesite accounts together. Worst case scenario, I'll pay whatever fines they drop on me.

>>55971783
Yeah we've been discussing some of those topics in IRC already. We'll likely be making a lot of our software from scratch considering how many of the applicants so far know pretty useful languages for this project. Hidden service will probably be an afterthought as soon as we have the actual site working. If you care this much about security you're probably not using bittorrent in the first place.
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>>55971856
Why not run a IRC network on the domain you're hosting registrations on? Also, email me. I registered under just[...]@waifu.club
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>>55971856
use discord, much safer than irc
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>>55971856
We need something encrypted
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>>55972030
>these are the people posting on /g/ now
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>>55971962
Pretty sure I invited you, but cockmail might be on the github black list. Ill send you a email in a minute. I could, but I'm also hosting some pretty decently sized/sensitive sites on the same server, so if I need to use a non-cloudflare IP on it to host a IRC I'd rather not. When we've rented the dedi for the pirate site Ill probably set up a IRC server on a VM.
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>>55970743
1337x UI is the cleanest I've ever seen from a torrent site.
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>>55972096
its still extremely ugly and makes me want to vomit. personal opinion though..
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>>55970149
I'd help out if I had the time, but I'm going back to college in a couple weeks, so I don't want to make a commitment I can't keep. If this project is still alive by the time I have more free time, I'd love to contribute.

Got Java, C#, and js experience. Best of luck with the project.
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Here is the final solution. Help him. It's fully distributed.

https://elixirforum.com/t/magnetissimo-web-application-that-indexes-all-popular-torrent-sites-and-saves-it-to-the-local-database/1174
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>>55972223
Thanks man, we have a decent amount of somewhat talented gentoomen who have signed up for the project right now, so I don't think It'll fail by then. You're welcome to make post a submission on https://dongs.date and I'll make a note about your situation.

>>55972263
Yeah I talked to him yesterday and we're not really trying to achieve the same thing. We did discuss borrowing some of his code though, and we still might but at this point we're leaning towards maybe making our own bot though.
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>>55972306
What is IRC info?
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>>55972356
Kind of dead in here right now as SO** left a little bit ago, but hop on in. irc.freenode.net #gtorrents
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>>55972385
I haven't received an email yet.
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>>55972066
>cloudflare
>sensitive websites
Enjoy your https MITM
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>>55972398
I don't know they have decent protection at the paid level, and I'm not using them for anything illegal so..
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dont make a new torrent site, just a video player with indexing that will lower or higher the bitrate of your stream to change the quality automaticaly
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>>55972976
I.. I don't see how thats related at all, but I think the world is more in need of a new torrent site than a new video player.
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>>55973020
then put a manget link also
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>>55972066
It's me. You still haven't emailed me.
I'm interested in helping, but I need direct contact, and not over a public IRC channel.
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>>55967098
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>>55967980
:')
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tfw /g/uys from another imageboard that isn't 4chin has already put the plan into motion and we are still at theorycrafting stage

yeah, the /g/uys here is fucking pathetic. script kiddies everywhere and whatnot jesus fuck
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>>55973074
Oh so sorry, Ive been sorting through the applications and forgot about you. Ill send you an email within the hour.

>>55973153
Actually, we've gotten quite far in getting people with quite a broad portfolio together, and are starting on the project sometime tomorrow. A project of this scale takes a certain amount of planning. What's more pathetic is that you browse other image boards that aren't 4chin.
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>>55973153
>using anything other than 4chan
Just go.
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>>55967098
I already have one underway
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>>55975146
Why don't you join in then? We have 7 volunteers so far and a really good plan to keep the site bulletproof from takedowns, etc. It'll be expensive to run, but we're confident we can fund it.
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https://github.com/chihaya/chihaya

i seriously hope you fags are using this
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>>55975266
We're leaning towards making it from scratch, although we'll discuss it when everyone comes on our IRC tomorrow. The problem with using pre-existing trackerware is that 0 trackers have any of the features we want to implement, and therefore we would spend as long a time fixing someone elses shit code as we would making our own.
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>>55970411
You can use git.teknik.io

Most /g/ trusts it and isn't a jew like github
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>>55975214
irc?
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>>55975464
#gtorrents@OFTC (we switched from freenode because no tor support)

Pretty dead right now since everyone is sleeping, but if you want we can talk and you can join back in when everyone else is online
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>>55971201
Wrongo buddy.
Former /g/torrent dev here, we got it pretty functional.
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>>55975505
i work full time so mayby tomorrow night PST
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>>55967098
What about hosting? and avoiding future DMCA?
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>>55976615
We discussed this in the IRC earlier today, and we've settled on a somewhat distributed system where if one server goes down, we'll have a script set up to automatically switch to another "mirror" server with another offshore hosting provider. Then behind all of these mirrors there's an extremely secure database server that all of the mirrors use so there will never be any downtime. Our current DMCA policy is to ignore DMCA completely. Payments to hosting providers and domain registrars are through btc and no single person should be able to be linked to the sites with the exception of screen names.
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>>55976681
>distributed system where if one server goes down, we'll have a script set up to automatically switch to another "mirror" server with another offshore hosting provider
Like piratebay?
What about payment and the anonymity of the individuals involved?
>there's an extremely secure database server that all of the mirrors use so there will never be any downtime
Bad idea in my opinion.
It should be that so each mirror can act as a backup.
Also what off-shore providers you're looking for?
many off-shore are being taken down as well.
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>>55976712
>off-shore are being taken down as well
we're looking at a few options right now that look promising and also accept btc.

>Bad idea in my opinion [to have a single database server].
Maybe, but they would have to raid one of the servers to even find out where the db server is hosted, and at that point we have plenty of time to move the database to another box.
Syncing a database that could potentially store gigabytes of data ever day over tens of VPSes isn't a very efficient or secure way to handle things. If LE raids one box and they all act as a backup, they would then have access to the entire database of the site, including private messages, hashed passwords, usernames etc.

>Like piratebay?
Wasn't the piratebay just taken down for multiple weeks before they recovered?
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>>55976774
will you supply torrent files or just magnet links?
And will USA IPs will be filtered?
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>>55976880
>will you supply torrent files or just magnet links?
Undecided. Probably both.

>And will USA IPs will be filtered?
Not sure what you mean, but we will probably not block any country from accessing the site unless a certain country or ip range causes a lot of issues.
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>>55967879
this
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>>55977007
well then you havent been on this site for very long. The past two years alone there have been at least two major projects out of /g/ and we already have 7 volunteers signed up to http://dongs.date/index.php?cgi=post who all know various useful languages and are willing to help out on the project.
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>>55968078

Yeah me too, I do mostly front end dev but I'm starting to work backend

I'd definitely be interested to build something higher scale than a fucking blog
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The idea seems good, but... Which language are you going to use?
Despite the huge hate against PHP, a modern application that works like flarum.org may be suitable.
I could offer some help with python if you prefer it.
Github sounds pretty good, if we have any problems the github clone written in go is amazing (Gogs)
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>>55977431
PHP is pretty good but for a more efficient applicatoin Angular or Ruby on Rails would be better.
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>>55967098
TPB got it close to perfect imho. Just needed better search, filtering and multi-sorting options. Other than that it was clean (with the ads blocked) and fast. Just make something like that. Just have magnet links as well.
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>>55977463
From my experience, I found that ruby required strong servers to run smoothly. I've never worked with Angular as backend
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>>55977559
It's not like we can run this stuff on a weak server. We're probably going to need a dedicated server at least.
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>>55967879

I am sure some anons on /g/ could but I am also pretty sure it will get cliquey the moment usernames get attached on IRC
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surely this will be hosted on .onion or ipfs right?
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>>55977809
clearnet because normies cant use tor
we have a pretty bulletproof way of doing this that will more or less guarantee zero downtime.
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>>55977698
and it sort of already is, but as soon as we get the prototype up on github anyone is free to contribute anything they like, and at that point the "elite few" who have been coming up with great ideas on IRC will have helped the project a great deal. (especially considering how hard it is to organize something through 4chan)
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>>55970887
who let the shark in the pool?
cunt has 7 rows of teeth
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>>55977637
That is a shit ton of money. I will try to help as much as possible
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>>55977844
You can have a mirror that is accessible only through Tor anyway.

>>55977991
You’re really over estimating the cost of hosting a tracker. Put up some ads and it will pay for itself fast. Especially if normies who don’t use adblock use it.
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Make this a private tracker
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>>55978777
Why?
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>>55978787
no normies allowed
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>>55978777
>>55978923
>make yet another private tracker
>3 people use it
>dies after a week
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So, basically, same shit, different day.
I can't believe this thread, it's like no one has learned anything at all from past events.
I actually really hope this project gets done and becomes really successful, so that everyone involved can enjoy some nice buttsex in gulag in a few years.

The time for change is now, guys. Centralized shit was never suppose to last forever. Money always wins in these situations, and even if you put a million shitty ads on your shitty site, MAFIAA will always have more money than you.

The only way for a file sharing service to work is to give the power back to the people. No more for profit bullshit, sharing should be only about sharing.
The same way it's the users that share the content, the users should be the ones sharing the way to find the content. Decentralization is the key.

Every single user combined should be the single point of failure. That's the only way to be truly foolproof. Either they find a way to get all of us down, or it never goes down.
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>>55979346
Are you talking about designing a p2p protocol? Or something like zeronet?
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>>55979392
I'm not a programmer, so I'm basically just repeating what much smarter people have been saying for a while now.

But yeah, zeronet is clearly going in the right direction.
IPFS also seems to be a really good idea, even if there's still a lot to be done.

The point is it's time to move away from central-authorities single-points-of-failures for everything.

Look at even google search. Every query that has even a passing resemblance to anything copyrighted returns censored results by DMCA bullshit.

As long as we keep trying to go about the old way of having the content in a single place to be served to everyone else through this only channel, we will lose.
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>>55977844
>we have a pretty bulletproof way of doing this
Really? Just like KAT or torrentz and many vandalized trackers had?
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>>55973245
>moot was hacked by this guy
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>>55976681
Lol, I like it.

To mess with the feds we could make a script to automate the entire process from clean digital ocean server to registered mirror, so everyone can just use the $100 free github credit and host a mirror for 20 months without effort or costs.
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>>55976681
Even if you pay in BTC, the domain registrar will just shut your account down for not providing accurate WHOIS info.
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Couldn't we use a database that is not stored on any server, but is only shared with the people on the network? I'm thinking of something like the blockchain of bitcoin, but instead of transaction records and shit, we'd just store the magnet links to torrent files.

And then you'd have to use some program to open this database (or maybe that is part of the torrent client or something) and search in it.
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>>55968305
Jesus, it is as if you guys don't know how torrents work. Intentionally restricting network capacity so you can be in a sekrit klub. Just spend some time scrubbing up on your logo making skills, because fuck all technically decent can come from this community.
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>>55973245
>They are not my parents
Holy shit that was good

>>55979648
Sorry if I am stupid but is there no way to avoid registrars? Maybe create a legal identity that is non human like a trust then sign ISP bills as that trust. Then get a static business IP without registering for a domain name so it is only accessible via IP.

Maybe I am way off but used to work as a civilian investigator of sorts and people use these legal structures to avoid taxes and legal recourse all the time.
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>>55979798
>Sorry if I am stupid but is there no way to avoid registrars? Maybe create a legal identity that is non human like a trust then sign ISP bills as that trust. Then get a static business IP without registering for a domain name so it is only accessible via IP.
Just use a fucking .onion fomain.

BTW interesting read on a blockchain based internet here: https://backchannel.com/how-bitcoins-blockchain-could-power-an-alternate-internet-bb501855af67

Blockchain based pirating could be a thing.
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>>55979862
I figured the IP would be more accessible than a .onion. Also that opens up the use of buzzwords at levels:

Media - > A darknet website that could possibly be used to share illegal media such as child pornography!

LE - > Alright guys looks like we have a deepweb torrenting index

Maybe it is a weak point but it seems that keeping the buzzwords out of the conversation could reduce attention drawn to the project. Just spitballing.
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>>55979798
>people use these legal structures to avoid taxes and legal recourse all the time.
This is only effective against criminal action if at least one of the legal entities is incorporated in a jurisdiction which a) respects your privacy and b) won't play nice with the US.
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>>55976681

JUST DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM ITUNES AND/OR LOG INTO FB
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i wanna help
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>>55979666
let's bring back kazaa/morpheous/limewire
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early mockup

>letter spacing is fucked
>submit button will have gradient
>still need border on input and submit
>flask backend but not that that matters at this stage

and a few more things
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>>55980159
i like it
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>>55980038

Can you make a Gooey interface in Visual C to track the IP?
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>>55980159

Is it supposed to be a Torrent Meta search or Torrent hosting site or both
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>>55980254

both
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>>55967098
I would love nothing more than devote my time and effort to make your money. For free.

Lmao kys kid
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>>55980306
Nice
It'd look better if you hand the hand cursor when hovering imo
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>>55980357

it will they're missing a tags since they're dead links anyways
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>>55980306
TOS :^)
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While we're at it >>55980411
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>>55980306
>purple
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>>55980159
At least /g/ can make a mockup website in addition to a logo.
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>>55980444
Someone's actually interested in bringing lo/g/os back?
Too bad it's dead
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>>55980306

Whats the difference between Shows and TV?
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>>55967098

either nobody of you faggots is gonna host it or nobody is gonna pay for the bandwidth.
you will never solve this two problems.
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>>55967098
Come on people, seems to me like the only alternative to make a strong torrent sharing community, would be dark web type of thing....
Let us make a dark web torrent indexer, and tracker along with it...

I know community is important, but it would really make sense for completely anon website, you can do everything without registration, but maybe possible anonymous only login to keep track of your stuff.

so in short the website would only have meta information, comments and etc, and the magnet link, so bandwidth would still be light on the darkweb...

on the tracker, the usual public ones would be fine, with maybe our own for more reliability.
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>>55980818
see
>>55978759
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>>55980928
>>55978759

non-private tracker gets 10 GBit of traffic after a few months, not peak but all the time.
you have to use dedicated otherwise hoster will kick you out sooner or later.
10Gbit dedicated costs 10k a month on free market. Bit less if you have your own AS and use peering.

and before you reply with "but hoster X gives you N GBit unlimited for price Y" read the second line again. the goal is to stay up longer than a few months, right?

also if using Tor or something, you won't get non-adblocking normies.
also good luck finding advertisors.
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>>55978759
>You’re really over estimating the cost of hosting a tracker. Put up some ads and it will pay for itself fast. Especially if normies who don’t use adblock use it.

kek
>>
Why dont you people just start using a decentralized way of sharing files. Like retroshare or something
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>>55981399
>retroshare
because your "Friends and Family" won't have access to the latest always sunny in Philadelphia episodes.
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>>55981418
I wish my friends and family watched IASIP
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>>55980409
TV link seems kind of small, maybe give it spacing so it doesn't become a PITA to click the tiny space
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>>55980918
>>55981094
How about a normie friendly client that connects to a hidden Tor or i2p indexer/tracker? It can be a shitty web app that connects to 1 specific Tor/i2p website but doesn't require additional setup or website hunting like other clients.
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>>55967879
We'll make the best damn logo you've ever seen though.
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>>55981691
we may or may not be doing something similar for the database. some guy with a brown name in irc made a pretty convincing argument and if it works out and isn't super slow it could be one of the smartest things we ever did.
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>>55967098
>3 things we need to decided on are
>1) Name (gtorrent was a /g/project from 2 years ago, though we could just out-seo them)
This is literally the last/least important thing
>2) Whether to use a public project like github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo, with an already established and simple to configure torrent indexer which we can modify to fit our goal, or make our own from scratch
This is actually relevant
>3) How many people want to help with this project.
Start working, keep publishing and volunteers will show themselves, not half-bad to honest

>freenode
why not rizon, where all the other 4chan irc channels are?

>>55977037
>two major projects
Tox is one, what's the other?

I just hope people don't loathe you like they did with tox.
>>
>>55981979
we switched to #gtorrents@OFTC for our irc because its tor-friendly.

The other one is /g/torrent which is a torrent client not to be confused with project /g/torrent (this)
>>
It's as if you guys don't know how to google in other languages.

There are torrent sites in other languages that are so much better than KAT and all the private trackers and anything we could come up with.


http://rutracker.org/
http://4torrents.net/
Etc.

You can use google and translate the language to something you can understand.
>>
>>55982581

use google chrome* and translate
>>
BTW the US/EU government can't do shit to shut down russian torrent sites. Putin is a boss!
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>>55982581
those both look like shit and have none of the functionality we're making.
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>>55982654

You obviously haven't signed up for an account on rutracker. It's really good.

Here's more russian torrent sites:
http://www.torrentbus.com/russia.htm
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>>55982703
Who care's were making the apple of torrent sites. Looks great and has unrivaled security and functionality. No normie is going to learn russian just to download their always sunny episodes. They want a nice comfortable UI, coupled with the worlds best torrent sorting.
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>>55981094
>also good luck finding advertisors.
If the site gets popular enough the FBI will be more than happy to place an ad there.
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>>55982779
> the apple of torrent sites

i'm out
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>>55982779
why would you care about normies?
normies don't upload nor seed
>>
>All this worrying about the normies.
Do you really think that the normies just learned all by themselves to install a torrent client, then go to KAT to find the shit they wanted and then click on the small magnet icon instead of the huge fake DOWNLOAD button?
No, they didn't. We taught them how to do all of that.

This whole excuse about how normies can't into zeronet is just bullshit. Normies will do whatever we tell them to do to get their shows.
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>>55982898
A more popular tracker is more likely to draw more uploads (high and low quality). The seeding is a good point, though other sites did just fine
>>
>>55982973
This. I would also like to support the zeronet idea in general. Seems to solve some issues discussed ITT
>>
>>55982581

A clone for Torrentz is already working:

https://torrentz2.eu/

However there is no harm in having more. I aint paying shit though
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>>55980306

>Shows
>TV
>>
>implying this will happen ever
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>>55982898
Real normies click the close button on the client and don't realize it's still running in the background.
>>
>>55967098
>This thread
What did I miss
>>
>>55983116
lo/g/os happened
>>
>>55982581
Are any of them open source?
>>
>>55983314
Not much, we still need a logo
>>
Why is the repo still empty? Let's get to work OP
>>
Just making another torrent tracker would be pretty pointless, you would be better off politely asking the CIA to raid your house: at least you wouldn't waste your time and resources.

Now what I think would be worthwhile thinking about would be a distributed torrent index, where every node holds a big list of all the IPs of other nodes (in case the currently connected node goes down) + all torrent's info and as the list is updated the changes get propagated.
Of course you could have some default entry points for the network, but if they go down the program would just connect to another node (it had a list of all nodes previously) and worst case you would just have to look up on google 1 node's ip to connect to.

Or heck just piggyback on the Tor network: host a torrent index/tracker as a hidden service, have the users get the magnets in it and download the torrent outside of Tor.
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>>55983523

don't think so.

Here's my rutracker account info if you want to check it out:

UN: jyork
PW: 4chan


>In google chrome use the translate button to translate to English
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>>55983722

problem with rutracker is lots of their stuff is in russian or is translated...

its only good for english movies and music

all books and stuff are in russian translations
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>>55983686
>Now what I think...
Aka Gnutella aka LimeWire

>Or heck just...
They already exist but no one uses it because it's not normie friendly
>>
I really like the idea of v*lafile.io...though it's not torrenting...

Main: https://v*lafile.io/r/BEEPi
Movies: https://v*lafile.io/r/TLvdm9
TV: https://v*lafile.io/r/BEEPi

Can you make gtorrent something like that? The only problem they have is that the download/upload speeds can be slow and they only store files for 1-5 days (which is good to prevent DMCA complaints).
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>>55984099

TV: https://v*lafile.io/r/PCT3eD
GAMES: https://v*lafile.io/r/HF33Go
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>>55984158
>>55984099
Liquid get off /g/
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>>55980159
looks good
>>
At this point I think the more important thing is protecting it from subpoenas and the like
If anyone can do that, we can. Question is, how exactly?
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>>55984468

Dont give out contact info
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>>55980306
>>55980409
This looks pretty fucking good
>>
is this better than the original search field?
>>
>>55985592
Best one up until now imo
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>>55984662
Can you do that while still having a TOS that carries weight?
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>>55985618

table styling is shit and not final but here's what i have so far
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>>55979798
>>55979862
>>55979927
Couldn't you make a shell LLC and sign up with company info? If the registrar asks for proof just make it some BS tech support thing. No personal info required, right?

>inb4 I'm retarded
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>>55985644
no e-book category? I hope this is just an oversight.
>>
>>55986262
It's just the frontend, friend. Technical stuff comes later. If ever.
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>>55984202
Thejidf PLS
>>
Please give me a PTP invite; my e-mail [email protected]
>>
you guys know there's actually an entire board for this shit?
>>
>>55986978
You mean the one that's basically just /gif/ with links?
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>>55987004
kek
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>>55985644
Record with quality my man.
https://github.com/TheTarkus/WebMCam
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>>55981814
Most autistic*
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>>55967098
#gtorrents on freenode is empty
>>
trackers are pointless there are literally billions of public trackers alive, an you can even use DHT.

The problem is
WE NEED AN INDEX
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>>55988445
We moved to OFTC because tor support. We would normally have made a new thread by now, but we're focusing on development
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I have an idea, a torrent that makes a directory of torrents and backs up to pastebin, gist, and other free pastes services regularly, all the links are public and the list can contain other lists.

When a new server is made, the server parses the pastebins, gists and makes its own index.

It literally stores its own database on pastebin, and other pastes, so anyone can replicate it.
>>
You know what would be cool? If someone index all torrents inside another torrent, but dynamically, like a blockchain.

And you know what, you don't need to reinvent the wheel, here is GitTorrent, use it faggots
https://github.com/cjb/GitTorrent/wiki
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>>55988713
This would be inefficient as fuck.
IPFS is made for that. Well, IPFS could also completely replace torrent files if it was stable enough.
We won't have to rely on trackers soon, hopefully.
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>>55967098
upload it to zeronet so it can never be taken down
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>>55988842
>>/out/
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