/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>55956226
gore thread?

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>>55956278
WAKE ME UP

>>55956226

what fucking earbuds aren't a meme

I don't buy "muh prefered rayuhnge"

I want something that won't fucking break after 2 days and I can get work done in

>>55956295
se215s

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>>55956288

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>>55956320
And now you can make your own...

>>55956226
Use the catalog.

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okay hpg, what is the consensus on fostex t50rp mk3?

personally, semi-open is ideal for me but how is the actual sound? especially compared to a hd598? i just totalled my pair and was wondering about finding an alternative rather than simply buying another pair.
ie:
>$170
>phone and laptop, mught get a dac sometime
>comfier/stays on better than hd598
>semi open or open
>balanced v-shape, or whatever you recommend for listening to alt-rock, indie rock, screamo, emo, grunge, folk, and some hip hop
>hd598 and some superlux pairs

>>55956306

you are absolutely sure these are not a meme?

they look big and plastic, like a mcdonalds toy

>>55956362
This will help you
http://www.denverrelief.com/blog/conditions-treated-by-cannabis/autism-and-cannabis-marijuana-therapy/?age-verified=04a4685b07

>>55956372
also
>electronic, experimental, metal, etc
alt rock and heavy metal take precedencr

>>55956372
FOTM meme
K702 is better

>>55956415
those are quite more expensive than my budget, and i thought they were a poor match for heavy/loud music (not that i don't listen to soft stuff, i just dont want some experiences to suffer)

>>55956455
K702 have good soundstage and pretty good imaging, but the impact and bass extension is poor.

>>55956455
Buy used then, audio is one of the things you can get away with buying used.

>>55956470
Any more bass than the k702 is nigger bass.

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anyone have/find any frequency charts for soundmagic IEMs? specifically the e80

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>>55956499
>nigger bass

Nice meme

>>55956499
so you're saying k702 is comfier than hd598 and has good volume and definition for loud music? i need good treble, but no treble spikes preferred.

my problem with hd598 was it slipped around a bit and bent / made my ears itchy

>>55956377
>you are absolutely sure these are not a meme?

lol no

>>55956553
The HD 598 is muffled and overrated shit

>>55956573
that's why i am not planning on buying another pair. nice input tho

I have a budget of max 220 euros. What are the best headphones I can get for this price range?

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>>55956403
It's autism to point out your faggotry? Just how big is your ego?

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>Budget
50-150CAD

>Location
Canuckistan

>Source
phone/computer jack

>Preferred type of headphone
full size

>Open or closed
closed cause fuk people

>Comfort level
100% comfy

>Preferred tonal balance
bassy as fuck

>Past headphones
Currently on a gamester gear p3210 bought for 10 bucks. Last headphones I had was another gaymen headset from soundblaster, so I really have no point of reference for nice headphones.

All things said, I just want something with lodse bass and can close me out of the world for maximum focus.

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So, im trying to decide on weather i should get the HD700 or HD650. I'll use them for primarily playing video games, watching movies and listening to music, in that order. From what i have researched the HD700 has a much wider soundstage than the 650, but is the price tag worth the wider soundstage, im aware of the 600 being a great set of head phone, but its sound stage is tiny. And the 650s having great balance, where i've heard people describe the 700s to have high trebbles. ofcourse in a game that shit dont matter so long as bass is bassy, but not too bassy to kill mids...

>>55957075
the K702 is better than both of those failures

>>55957075
The HD700 is considered a failure by most and less desireable than the 600/650 by all.

>Budget
$60 or less
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone with occasional use for PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear > around ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Good
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Shit apple ear followed buy much improved Sony earbuds followed by much improved Sony headphones.

>>55957075
buy something that isn't sememeheiser

>>55957181
Shure SRH 440 if on sale or used. You won't find anything better that matches your budget.

-Removable cable
-Coiled cable
-Replaceable earpads
-comes with carrying bag if previous owner doesn't suck

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Are there any good alternatives to the m50x that are similar/less in price?

Do you recommend the:

Sennheiser PX-100-II?

Or

Grado SR60e?

>>55957403
Shure 840

Does anyone here know how often the K7XXs go up on Massdrop. Is it like every 3 months, or is it relatively random?

>>55957403
MDR 7506

>>55957075
HD700 is trash, high end sennheiser from best to worst:

HD600 > HD650 > HD800 > HD700

>>55957632
These look very nice, especially since I don't listen to electronic/bassy shit. They're much cheaper than m50xs here as well.Thanks dude.

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>>55957750
>HD600 > HD800

kek

>>55957750
>hd600/650
>high end
lol

>>55958161
pic and timestamp of high end headphones

>>55958436
oh no somebody couldn't possibly afford better headphones than my $300 mid-fi garbage!

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I know wireless headphones are "frowned upon", but I need something for when I'm running. I've heard good things about the stinky chinky MPow amazon bluetooth headphones like pic related, but I wanted to get your guys' opinions. For $50 or less, what's the best bang for my buck?

>inb4 jaybird I'm not made of money guys

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How bad would koss portapros be for wearing while doing manual labor / landscaping? My MDR-ZX100s are too bulky and fall off of my head if I look down with them on, and my head is just big enough to not be able to have them at the tightest adjustment and the cable is a little too long so I always have to snake it down my shirt.

>>55958535
just get some in-ears

you should be snaking your cable down your shirt anyway

>>55958485
If you have existing earbuds/IEMs get an adapter.

>>55958545
I don't like in-ears, I like the compact look of the portapros too so I'd use them for around the house and in the store or whatever too

>>55958548
I actually did for a set of headphones I have, and it works great. I just don't want to have to wear full over-ear headphones when I run.

My main concern is fighting cables. If I can just hang them behind/around my neck like in pic related, it'd be ideal

>>55958576
With an wireless adapter and a twist tie I attach my MA750 IEMs to my cycling helmet.

Anyone have that picture that exposes the hyper cloud as a rebranded takstar?

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I think I've reached endgame for a while until I become rich or something. I literally own like 80% of the worthwhile headphones that are not in the 400-1000 deadzone or the 1k+ enthusiast zone.

I also have good speakers. the fuck am I supposed to do now? I guess I'll spend my money on displays...

>>55956295
stop calling IEMs earbuds then

>>55956372
just like the mk2, the t50rp is a launching point for those wanting to get into a mod project. modded they can sound amazing. mad dog is one of my favorite headphones and I use them daily. that said, the stock response is very mid-forwards with poor bass response and poor highs. if you don't want to bother with modding since the mad dog is out of production just by an hp50.

>>55957075
those are 2 of the worst sennheisers. that said the 650 is far better than the hd700 monstrosity. just get an hd600 or something from another company.

>>55958773
I want an OLED display.

>>55957502
px easy. portapro and ksc-75 are also do grado better than grado. they sound similar to an sr60 with the treble rape removed.

I need headphones, $250 max that are more neutral/bright than bass heavy. What do I get?

>>55957502
Between those two? Sennheiser PX 100-II.

I own a Grado and my Porta Pro is easily better.

I'll try asking again. I know I'm not following the guidelines but I live in a third world shithole were prices are all jacked up anyways so my choices are limited.
A store nearby is selling the Sony XBA-2 for 50 bucks with free 2 days shipping. Are they any good? I'm not particularly picky, I just want some bassy earbuds I won't miss if they get lost or stolen. Good build quality is a huge plus, since my previous pair of earbuds (urbeats I got as a gift) broke down after 6 months of use.
I haven't touched earbuds since but I kinda want to stop taking my 250 USD headphones outside for fear of getting mugged.

>>55959575
>fear of getting mugged
How come you're not looking at ordering some KZ ATE/ED9's or Xiaomi Pistons/Hybrids?

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

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>>55956320
Hello.

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>>55959654
Nice knob

>>55959636
I have considered the Pistons, but they're hard to get a hold of in my country. The only pair for sale that looks remotely legit goes for 35 dollars, so for 15 extra I can get the XBA-2 assuming they're better

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>>55956372

Saving up for something like the ZMF Classic is probably more worth it in the long run. Stock T50RP is missing some frequencies, particularly at the top and bottom, and requires modding to achieve a complete sound.

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>Budget
Enough to get the best bang for the buck. Nothing stupid expensive. Around $200 I guess?
>Location
Trumpland
>Source
Xonar DG
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Preferably closed so people outside my room don't hear underage anime girls screaming yamete, but I can compromise.
>Comfort level
I wear them for hours on end. Nothing loose, though.
>Preferred tonal balance
Whatever
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 280, DT770 Pro, SoundMAGIC HP100, some other trash

Was thinking about getting the Momentum 2.0 after some other anon mentioned it being on sale for 200 in a previous thread but the reviews seem iffy.

>>55960109
The mementum are shit. If you want closed and don't plan on taking them outside or don't mind looking like a retard get the K550 or K553 Pro

>>55960109
MSR7

>>55956226
What are some good headphones with good sound isolation? I need something I can use in a public library

>>55960109
MDR 1a, MSR7, K550 on massdrop, m50x

>>55960285
>K550

K553

>>55960177
>>55960224
>>55960285
>>55960299
Was actually looking at the MSR7, but now the AKG's look tempting with the sturdier build.

The K553 seems to be rated lower than the K550, though.

XB-1000 for 250 bucks
Yay or nay? they're used tho, and the guy lives in another state so I'm risking buying defective shit. Supposedly the site I'd be buying them on offers buyers protection and I can get my money back though.

>>55960338
I think you'll like the MSR7. People say it's really comfy as long as you adjust/mod the headband if needed. The build is mostly plastic and can creak sometimes, but if you're only using them at home, V moda build quality is not as important, just comfort and sound. I've heard they are balanced and are good w/ female voices, so anime might sound better

I also forgot to mention the NAD HP50 as another one

>>55956295
>>55956377
Try asking a proper question without using the word meme and you might get a solid answer.

>>55959654
http://www.silverstonetek.com/sstedm/eb03/EN-EB03.pdf

Oh lord, had no clue Silverstone started manufacturing this kind of equipment.

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Hello!

>>55956226
at least you can pop a new arc in, my Sennheisers are forever fucked

>>55956573
And the 702 is very thin and slightly harsh.

Everything about them besides the detail is shit.

>>55957075
m8 the soundstageae sounds exactly the same on the 650 and 600.

I've owned both and the 600 is better.

>>55958451
You got wrecked.

600's are king mode

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>>55959654
Got you senpai

>>55961944
Don't get great headphones if the only device you can drive them with is low-tier trash.

is there a guide for Chinese earphones?

People are still discussing K701/2's and HD600/650 but I rarely see Beyerdynamic DT880 mentioned here. What happened? It used to be part of the big 3.

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Want to join the Planar Master Race /hpg/.

Is the HiFiMAN HE-400i a good starting point. Would like to spend less than $1,500 though.

>>55962519
People don't discuss about excellent headphones here.

>>55961944
the odac is low tier trash?

If you're paying any more than that your cucking yourself for more bloat and distortion.

>>55962519
What's the difference between the 880 and the 990?

>>55962714
I think the 990 has a more extreme V signature while DT880 has a little lower bass, flatter mid range and bigger treble spike

>>55957075
I always wanted the HD600 / 650
Ended up with Audeze LCD2 Rev. 2, since they were suppose to match the sound sig of the 650 but be better in every way. I absolutely loved them however they were so heavy eventually I got rid of them. Lost my ass and bought some HD700 on sale for $500. There is a really good review of the HD700 and bottlehead Crack OTL. I would normally say the 600/650 would be a better price point, however the 700s are just so ridiculously cheap now.
700 if you have the extra cash, 600/650 if ya want wanna save. Either way you want a good amp.

>>55962545
>1500

go for stax instead

>>55962519
Because there's nothing to discuss. It's just an excellent headphone.

>>55963000
Why no mention of the horrible treble peaks?

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Should I buy my Monk Plus from the official veclan.com store, or should I go for these special translucent red ones on Massdrop? Not exactly a fan of the plain black ones on veclan, as I'd prefer a clear shell. But somehow I like the idea of waiting only two weeks instead of four or five. Odd, I know!

On a similar note, what tf is the difference between the Balanced, TRRS, and Darth editions listed on veclan?

Thanks

>>55958559
These might suit you better. Similar driver to the portapros too.
https://www.amazon.com/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K

>>55959847
1More sells Pistons directly to the US, not sure about availability in other countries.
Most cheap dynamic driver IEMs are bassy anyway, picking a model at random is far more likely to find something with a large bass boost than otherwise.
>fear of getting mugged.
You really think they'd mug you for the headphones? It's one thing to be worried about misplacing a set of headphones, but mugging?
If it's not a popular model, they probably won't recognize it as valuable enough to be worth mugging someone for. I've heard more than a few stories about people being mugged and leaving behind the DAPs and IEMs that cost thousands of dollars.

>>55962519
>What happened?
Headphone discussion is seasonal, it comes and goes. If someone buys a model, they might be back to defend their purchase like a cornered rat. This just happens from time to time.

>>55962545
Just picking a planar driver doesn't mean anything, there's still a wide variance of signature they can have.
The HE-400i is a more popular option.

Other planar headphones:
Audeze Sine and LCD-2 (whatever version)
Stax Lambda series
Hifiman HE-560 and HE-6
Oppo PM3
And many others.

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Which AMP+DAC should I choose to feed my HD 600?

FiiO E10K: $99 USD
Magni 2 + Modi 2: $243 USD
O2+ODAC RevB: $312 USD

Are there any audible differences between them?

>>55964258
the HD600 will probably sound bad regardless which amp you take

>>55964087
You'll get mugged if you have Beats or anything with a white cable (they will want the iPhone).

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I'm looking at getting a pair of ESW9As (mainly for aesthetic reasons) as they're relatively cheap, but I already have a pair of ad700s and m50xs, would it be worth grabbing them if I already own those pair? Also iffy on how small the cups are but they look amazing

>>55964258
No audible differences, the E10K won't get as loud as the Magni or O2, but should be fine.
>>55964272
How butthurt over the HD600 are you?

>>55964258
Why write "amp" in all caps? It's short for amplifier and not an acronym.

Fiio has cheap construction, but it sounds fine.
O2 combo has a configurable gain, and more voltage and current than the Fiio.
The Schiit combo one-up the O2 on the voltage and current, but this is not much benefit except with the HE-6 and other vintage planar dynamic headphones.
There are many things besides the ones mentioned here that can work in the

>>55964608
>not a popular model

>>55964851
I wasn't trying to contradict you

>>55964819
Why not save for higher end AT models that also have wood cups?

>>55956226
actually has anyone tried making good/okayish headphones themselves here? I always wondered how hard it is? Gonna ask /diy/ someday.

>>55965088
I live in Canadia and I don't really want to drop ~500+ on cans. That and I just really like how they look, but if there isn't really a point then whatever

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I bought a pair of XBA-H1 for $75 at best buy on sale and I've grown to appreciate IEMs because of it. They sound identical to the ATH-m50 to my ears but get shit on rather hard by the dt990-250ohm for the music I listen to.

How much do I have to spend on an IEM to rival the dt990? Which models should I look at? My neet-dom is coming to an end after 5 years as I've finally enrolled in college and want IEMs since I'll be stuck in the library for long peroids of time between classes as the bus schedule sucks.

pic related

>>55965179
>5 years of NEET life

How old are you?

Bose SoundTrue Ultra in-ear has lots of bass and really good treble.

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>>55964258
m8 I own the 600's and the odac and my brother owns the e10k. The o2 sounds slightly better, the bass is stronger and everything else feel slightly improved. If you're new to this game you might not care or even notice the difference but it's real. The odac obviously costs a lot more so you just need to decide if it's worth it for you. If money is no problem get the odac, it's slightly better. Period.

I'm looking for neutral headphones with a hard limit of 100 dollars. I looked into the portapro, but they look pretty JUST. I don't bother with amplifiers or DACs, I just want something that will plug into a 3.5mm port and I'm willing to sacrifice some amount of quality to achieve that.

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>>55965244
will be 24 in a few months

I suppose the treble is the main difference between the sonys and the dt990 but it's also that fullness of sound that I'm after. I'm not sure if it's possible to get it with IEMs which is the main reason I'm seeking help.

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What's so bad about wireless headphones? Pardon my newness.

>>55965274
No, it's not, I have the HD600, an E10K and a ODAC and O2 combo as well. You're experiencing expectation bias of some sort. They sound identical but the O2 is louder.
>>55965289
MDR-V6 or MDR-7506.
>>55965295
EarPods.
>>55965298
You like a thick sound? SE215 might deliver that but many here (myself included) find them muddy.

>>55965343
>What's so bad about wireless headphones? Pardon my newness.
Nothing, it's just the old outdated OP that faggots reuse to make the thread every time.

>>55964847
I swear there is one 702 owner in these generals that can't stand the fact that the 600 is better. Ignore him.

I have the opportunity to get these for thirty bucks. Think it's worth pulling the trigger?

http://shop.panasonic.com/audio-and-video/headphones/premium-studio-headphones/RP-HTF600-S.html

>>55965349
They aren't identical. They're very close but the o2+odac combo sound richer. The e10k is noticeably thinner sounding. Like I said though, it's a small difference and one that most won't care about. This is my end game so I wan't it to be as good as possible. I could easily sell this combo, buy the e10k and make a good chunk of money back but i'm not going to because the o2 is slightly better. I don't deal in memes, price or graphs. I know what I hear and I can hear the difference straight away on most songs. But i'll stress again that they're very close and the e10k is a better option for most people who don't care enough. It's a great amp+dac, especially for the money.

>>55964819
I don't recall it being similar to the M50 or the AD700, but it has been a few years since the last time I used an AT wood model.
It was somewhat reduced in the higher frequencies.

>>55963813
>difference between the Balanced, TRRS, and Darth editions
Darth is just the black color, as in Darth Vader black.
TRRS is a connector scheme and one more wire than the TRS connector. It has multiple uses as a connector, such as for differential (aka balanced) L/R output or for adding a mic to a typical cable. These are mutually exclusive.
I would guess TRRS refers to a mic version.

>>55965343
>wireless headphones
There isn't. /hpg/ doesn't know very much about them, but wireless audio isn't a problem.

>>55965100
I've not made one from scratch. At most, a minor modification to existing design, a little bit of damping change and that sort of thing.
You would need a measurement device to test your design on, to quickly check what you've made and to serve as a sanity check. Easy enough for headphones, much more diffucult for in-ears.

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>>55965491
Babbies first pentest

>>55965475
They are identical, a sighted listening test like yours doesn't mean much, have your brother set up a proper blind test or something with both and see if you can really tell the difference.

But hey, good for you if you can 'hear' a difference.

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>>55957750
>HD600 > HD650 > HD800

Hahahahaha.

>Budget
$200 at the most, maybe more if it's really worth the extra money.
>Location
U S of A
>Source
Mostly phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized wireless
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
So many
>Preferred tonal balance
I'd like v shaped but this isn't important.
>Past headphones
Sony MDRZX100 ZX series
JBL E50BT - just broke, looking for another wireless pair.

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>>55965532
Oh look, another dumb and delusional HD800 meme poster.

>>55965531
>have your brother set up a proper blind test or something with both and see if you can really tell the difference.

I already did that a long time ago. We mostly tested the same song because it sounded like a good test song and we both guessed which amp was which EVERY TIME.

There was no bullshit or preference. We simply wanted to know if it was worth keeping or sending back.

Test that shit again with a decent song that isn't just rock or rap blasting at you and actually listen to the fine details. Yes, the difference is that small but this is my endgame so the improvement is worth it to me.

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Is the T1 2nd gen a meme or is it worth it

>>55965607
>I think everything down to 10Hz is fairly accurate but above 10kHz is the no guarantee zone. The microphone used seems to top out at around 27kHz but don’t know how accurate absolute levels are. As the measurement setup is cheap … don’t bet on absolute accuracy. Ignore the ‘wiggles’ around 50-60Hz, they aren’t really there. A measurement error. This is true for all measurements on this website though.

Nice source you got there. I bet you think marv's measurements at SBAF are accurate too. :^)

>>55965532

I swear /hpg/ is extremely bipolar towards this headphone. You claim that you hate them but I see that so many of you own the HD800.

>>55965754
Coming from someone that owns a combined price of £500 for his headphones and amp, the hd800 is a ridiculous price for a pair of headphones. I don't know how they sound and fair play to anyone that owns them but they need to be fucking special at that price. I think the price alone puts people off but I do suspect that the people in /hpg/ who write it off clearly haven't tried it before.

Graph faggots, basically.

>>55965676
Never heard the first nor the second one but from what >head-fi circlejerks are saying it's better to get the first gen cheaper than 1.2

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>>55965693
Diffuse field + X-curve.

>>55965676
No, it's shit just like the HD800 and K812, those high price dynamic headphones are fucking garbage and you should stay away from them.

Get DT880 or HD600 or something else.

>>55965945
I already have a DT880 and was looking to upgrade, I love my 880s and heard the T1 is just an upgrade

>>55965606
K553 pro

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone

>>55965651
Well, to put it simply you made an error in your testing methodology which allowed you to identify which amp was playing.

http://www.libinst.com/Audio%20DiffMaker.htm

If you've got some time to waste, try this with a loaded test on both, you need a soundcard with a line input to record the result from both amps with a headphone splitter cable and a male/male headphone cable. I did this a long time ago and there's no difference between most sources.

>>55965966
You don't upgrade from DT880, you only sidegrade now. You don't love your DT880 if you want to upgrade from it.

>>55965651
>>55965531
>set up a proper blind test
More difficult and frustrating than most people seem to realize. Amplifier level should be matched with a voltmeter precisely, amplifier and converter performance should be checked for glaring issues, test is to be conducted double blinded, multiple trials are needed to reject the null, subjects should be free to take a rest as needed.

>a decent song that isn't just rock or rap blasting at you and actually listen to the fine details
That's an audio myth more than anything else.

>>55965997
Difference testing is to be done carefully. It only shows anything if the null exists, the failure to null can come from any number of sources besides the devices under test, which still doesn't establish audibility or otherwise.

>>55965997
>>55966083

We're going to have to agree to disagree. Me and my brother tested the amps as best as we could. Two different pc's and the same headphones. We literally put a blindfold on and placed the headphones on top of each other's heads. We couldn't physically see or feel a difference or know which pc or amp was being selected and i'm talking over the top borderline autistic preparation when it came to the cables and everything else so there would be no chance at all knowing which amp or computer was being used.

We both guessed correctly every. single. time. most of them being within 5 seconds especially after the first few tries. We must have tested around 20 times each over the course of an hour.

If they're exactly the same I'd fucking love to hear you explain that one.

Go for it. Impress me.

>>55966240
>anecdotal evidence
nobody cares

Alright /hpg/.. I have a pair of Yamaha hs5 monitors and I am getting a constant buzz during gaming and graphically intensive things. It changes frequency depending on how hard my card is working. I bought a DAC hoping that would help but it didn't really do anything. I'm assuming it's a ground loop issue but I have no idea what to do. Do you guys have any thoughts?

>>55956226
Hey, i would like to buy some proper headphones, so I can actually fully appreciate my vast collection of FLAC files.

>Budget
600kr./80$
>Location
Denmark
>Prefered type of headphone
Both on ears and earbuds are fine imo
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter, as long as it does not hurt when I wear them. I also do not want a pair of earwarmers.
>Prefered tonal balance
Warm and a somewhat strong bass

helperino plserino

>>55966240
Should've at least documented it in some way that way we could take you seriously

>>55966310
Sounds like it's your card. Do you have onboard video? Maybe you could take out the card to check if you still have the noise

>>55966323
Why would I give a shit about that? we wanted to know for our sake, not for random people on a chinese fishing forum.

What i'm saying is the truth and I have no reason to lie. I'd fucking love to sell my odac and buy an e10k again. I love the size of it and the fact that it's usb and doesn't need it's own power source. but I'm not going to do that because it's very slightly worse and I can afford to keep it. Which I plan on doing for life.

>>55966297
Nice argument. Enjoy your e10k.

>>55965754
I remember when this place used to hate the HD600 too and now look at how hard this gets shilled these days.

>>55966442
i'll enjoy using the thing you can't afford even though i'm not trying to delude myself into thinking there's some audible benefit

>>55966310
Plug your phone into the HS5 and see if the same problem still persists.

>>55966414
>but I'm not going to do that because it's very slightly worse and I can afford to keep it

I can afford to keep the o2 Is what I meant.

>>55966455
You sound bitter and you have no idea what I can or can't afford.

I love my setup and I don't want to spend another penny on this hobby.

>>55966495
enjoy your mid-fi trash and keep convincing yourself your cheap shit headphones benefit from better amplifiation

>>55966452
What is there to hate about the 600 though besides the marble look?

They sound great and they only sound 'veiled' compared to the 702's which have their own, obvious problems.

I'm going to take a guess and say that there are less weeaboo posters than in the past.

>>55966240
I didn't make an explicit statement about the difference or otherwise between the two devices. You haven't said anything about the most critical audio factor to control, the playback level, in your procedure.

>>55966531
There is nothing wrong with the HD600 but as always audio is about subjective preferences so naturally some like them and some don't.

I personally find them a bit lifeless and boring.

>>55966510
My setup is stupidly overpriced as it is and I've already explained that I can hear a difference in the amps.


Clearly you have headphones that cost quite a lot more and that's not something that interests me in the slightest. I care about what I own and I love it. The only arguable headphone above mine costs close to a grand. Anyone that pay's that for a subjectively better headphone is a fucking retard lmao

>>55966531
veiled, boring, lacking in detail, zero bass, high bass distortion

>>55966468
It doesn't I think it's just graphics card interference but I don't know how to fix it

>>55966542
Both were flac files used with foobar and the only thing left to question would be the volume. We did our best to match it with other songs before the test. Both setups sounded identical volume wise and the audio difference in the test was clearly nothing to do with the volume in our opinion. It was as close as it gets without actually measuring it. The volume 'sounded' the same but the quality and details didn't.

>>55966531
Lack of soundstage. Shit bass.

>>55966589
I think they're the most 'normal' sounding headphones below the obvious highly expensive ones.

The 702's sound more detailed but they don't have any weight to them making everything sound thin imo and slightly harsh. The fostex t50rps are quite good but nothing matches the overall sound signature of the hd600. I do actually prefer a bright 702 type sound in general but the hd600's sound neutral and warm enough to not make them sound thin. They're very comfortable after the metal band has been stretched out as well. Probably the most comfortable i've ever tried

>>55966618
Got a different power supply to swap into your PC?

>>55966641
Lack of sound stage is a good point, I completely forgot about that. I don't understand the shit bass part though, yes there could be a bit more but what would you call good bass if you think the 600's is shit.

>>55966618
To fix it you'd have to replace the coils. Research the issue maybe it's possible to send in your card for warranty? Probably not though

>>55966752
HD600's bass is a bit muddy and slow. Comparing it with my ER-4XR and it becomes obvious the latter has a much better bass presentation.

>>55966452
There was only the HD650 mentioned back then, no one care for HD600.

>>55966531
>less weeaboo
Probably.
>veiled
The K702 is somewhat dull sounding itself. Treble peaks do not make it sound less dull, just piercing. That applies to many other headphones.
Distortion may be a little high on the K701/702, testing suggests possible audibility. The margin is still fairly small which does not make a strong case for that.

>>55966855
I don't think comparing the bass to that of an iem is fair? maybe it is, i've never tried them so i'll take you word for it. Even though I was expecting a headphone comparison.

>>55966868
In my opinion the 702 sounds more detailed and wider but it's just not as nice to listen to as the 600. It sounds thin as fuck whereas the 600 sounds really, really nice for every genre. I don't use my 600's with an EQ but I've felt the need to with every other headphone i've tried.

>>55966899
True but the ER4 series is my gold standard when it comes to testing bass. Very low distortion and good extension.

>>55966950
Vocal also sounds much nicer with the AKG headphone.

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>>55966855
>slow

i swear the niglets who describe something sounding slow/fast has nothing to do with speed

>>55966995
The main thing I forgot to add in my post was the fact that the vocals on the 600 destroy everything else i've ever tried lol. It's the best thing about them imo. Nothing has came close for me. This hobby really is subjective for the most part.

>>55966960
I just search those iem's and...god damn. Sre they worth the money at all?

I could never spend that on iems just because of how easily they could snap/break whilst on the move. It would be soul destroying.

>>55966960
>ety
>bass
also how slow is the bass? does it travel slower than the usual speed of sound?

>>55966752
Audeze LCD-4.
Some of the other planar dynamics are very good, the LCD-2 and EL-8 are definitely better than the Fazor 3, the Ether and HE-6 are a little off, the 560 and 400i seemed good.
For in-ears, somewhere around the ER-4B/4S. The ER-4 is still slightly bass boosted, but I guess it's okay.

>>55967516
Audeze LCD-4

Fair enough, i've never tried them and never will. I wouldn't want to spend that kind of money on headphones even if I could. What I own makes me an audio god as it is compared to 99.9% of the population lol.

I do love the look of those aesthetically. How do they sound compared to the 600's then?

Cleaner, wider and better bass?. They must be incredible if that's the case. Also what amp do you own?

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Thinking about the sony mdr xb950bt
I see nothing bust good reviews for them should I cop?

>>55966736
I don't have an extra laying around I might just try to get a new graphics card ive got a 970 right now

>>55966240
You fucked up in some way if you could consistently tell both apart.
>>55966531
HD600 isn't veiled, it's the very opposite, it's quite diffuse field so I can't see how anyone can call it veiled, it's borderline bright if anything.
>>55966855
No, the HD600's bass is rolled off, the XR has boosted bass, I haven't heard the XR but I have an ER-4S and the ER-4S does have better bass.
>>55966868
K702 is dull because it has too much lower midrange (on a proper seal) and a recession in the upper midrange around 4kHz. Never really found these headphones to be thin or analytical like many claim, just a bit piercing at 6-7kHz and the honky 2kHz emphasis, along with the mid-bass oriented sound.
>>55966960
Meh, the XR has too much bass but I'll probably get on because I'm a huge Etymotic fanboy, I wouldn't consider the XR to have flat bass, the SR is the one I would recommend for that.
>>55967516
Haven't heard the LCD-4 but if it's like the LCD-2, I'm not interested. You see evaluating bass is difficult. The LCD-2 has a ruler flat bass and midrange but the rest of the spectrum is weaker than the bass response so they sound bass oriented, rather than having a flat bass response. Methinks the Ety ER-4S is the only thing that comes close to having a proper bass response down to 40Hz that sounds correct, this includes the rest of the spectrum of course.

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>>55967729
>methinks

>>55967776
>>>/reddit/

>>55967729
>You fucked up in some way if you could consistently tell both apart.

Nope, everything was as balanced and fair as we could get it.

I already know the difference between them but
just for the ske of it, why does anyone buy the o2 over the e10k if it sounds exactly the same?

Are you saying the o2 is snake oil?

>>55967878
O2 isn't snake oil, the designer was purely anti-snake oil.

The O2 is more powerful than the E10K, the E10K's power is limited because it runs from a USB port which has limitations.

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>>55967820
>uses pretentious, fedora-tier phrase
>accuses others of being from reddit

>>55968103
>caring about the phrases others uses

>>>/reddit/

>>55968111
>caring about the phrases others uses (sic)

Do you know where you are?

>>55967608
Anyone?

>>55968131
Sorry, I'm new to this sub.

>>55967997
>O2 isn't snake oil, the designer was purely anti-snake oil.

I'm glad you said that.

>The E10K's power is limited because it runs from a USB port which has limitations.

This is clearly why there is a difference then. The 600's aren't that hard to drive but the o2 gives them a deeper bass and more...everything. But only slightly. Me and my brother aren't stupid or biased enough to lie about what we hear.

Maybe the difference is non existing on other headphones but on the 702 and the 600 it's there. The e10k sounds great but it clearly sounds thinner.

>>55968441
Expectation bias is a hell of a thing.

>>55968301
>still in ironic reddit mode

>>55965477
Based on my research, it seems differential output mainly relates to audio production, as in keeping noise out of recordings. So I suppose it doesn't really matter whether this pair of earbuds offers it or not? Seeing as how the Monks only do audio output

(Pardon me if I sound like an idiot!)

>>55968477
The thing is I bought the o2 purely to get more volume for a very specific reason that involves a midi keyboard. I actually asked on here about an amp that could give me more volume than the e10k and nothing else.


I actually came across the quality increase by mistake and that's why we started comparing the amps. We were new to this hobby back then and we could clearly hear the improvement from the o2 when used with our 702's at the time.

The difference is real but it's small, like most differences in 'high' end audio.

>>55968584
Just tested them again even though I know they sound slightly different.

I don't even need to get into any details. They both sound great but the bass has more depth on the o2. It's not even debatable.

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>>55968864
>pic related

Fucking hell

>>55968864
You're wrong though, anyway, try this, test it with the ODAC as the DAC and then the E10K as the DAC and tell us if you 'hear' a difference.

>>55968945
>You're wrong though, anyway, try this, test it with the ODAC as the DAC and then the E10K as the DAC and tell us if you 'hear' a difference.

I've tested that as well because my brother actually uses his own o2 amp and he uses the e10k as his dac. I didn't want to mention that earlier in the discussion because it would have made things a bit more confusing for some.

My odac+o2 amp sounds a tiny bit better than the o2 amp and e10k combo.

The gap between the o2amp+odac compared to the e10k on it's own is slightly bigger.

I tested all this stuff a long time ago and the o2 and/or odac wins every time although the difference is really small. And i'd actually argue that it's not worth the price difference.

>>55967729
dumb ear dildo shill

>>55969155
Name a better IEM than the ER-4 you faggot.

>>55969244
anything that isnt a eardildo

>>55968441
>but the o2 gives them a deeper bass
Not at all what is actually happening whether you, your brother or whoever else think you hear something related to that.

>er4xr available on amazon.co.jp

Fucking US amazon get your shit together

>>55969244
Hidition NT1, only because it's a custom ER-4.

>>55969266
But i'm testing them right now with different genres of music and the bass difference is obvious, never mind the fact that everything else sounds cleaner and more lively.


i'm sorry m8 but the o2+dac is better than the e10k.

I'm starting to think that you're nothing more than an e10k owner. Prove you're not and i'll respect your opinion at the very least.

>>55969283
Just make your own dude and save $350

http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?Knowles%2fED-29689-000%2f&qs=3unH%2fDqlvl8HwvqJLEd4Rg%3d%3d

>>55969374
Sighted listening tests aren't reliable. I'm one of the posters who disagreed with your little listening test. FYI, I have a $1000 DAC/amp unit and it sounds no different from the O2/E10K and other cheap shit.

>>55969374
>>55969472
Also, I don't even like the E10K and I despise FiiO because their products tend to fall apart on its own.

Soundwise? It's flawless.

>>55969472
Again, i'm still testing songs and these amp/dacs do not sound identical. They sound very similar but there's a difference howeveri'm open to the fact that someone might prefer one to the other even though I think the odac sounds better.

Why do you own a $1000 dac?. Extremely hard to drive headphones?, are you the audeze owner from earlier?

Either way. Are you saying that amps/dacs can either 'drive' a particular or not. Do you think it's that black or white? Genuine question.

>>55969667
Listening levels need to matched closely, also you could just be biased to the O2 being better, this is known as expectation bias and it's very real.

I own a $1000 DAC/amp unit because I just wanted to. No special reason. It's a DAC1 USB. I mostly use a HD650 and DT880 with it.

>>55969410
You first.

>>55969374
I'm the one you quoted and I have O2+ODAC combo and some other cheap shit. No FiiO gear. I'm questioning your testing methodology, refer again to what >>55966083 said.

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>>55959654
Indeed, my laptop onboard sounds like absolute trash, when traveling i much prefer the sansa clip and some of my headphones that are easier to drive.
>>55962519
It's just not the topic flavor of the month, but it will be eventually, in fact not long ago we had plenty of shitposting about "mudheiser vs beyeremorse". I for one am glad that the K702 is getting more attention lately, it's a great headphone and i think it's nice that people are taking some time to read about it or test it...
HD600 seems to the more constant in debates, which is fine i guess, also a great option.
>>55967729
Imho the "HD600 veil" is a matter of perspective, people coming from brighter signatures might actually find it to be veiled, just as people coming from the HD600 might find some brighter signatures pretty harsh or fatigating. If you ask me the HD600 sits in a very nice spot between neutral and warm, it's a damn good stock signature.

>>55969732
We tested them in the best way we could and we both picked the odac blind folded every single time .

I'm still comparing them and the odac sounds slightly more rich with extended bass. I'm not fucking making it up either. I'd love to sell this and buy an e10k instead but it's slightly worse with my 600's and it was the same with my 702's when I first bought it. Period.

>>55968892
Why did you change the stock cables of the HD 600?

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Should I pull the trigger on these? They are -40% off

>>55970624
Purely because the stock cable is way too long. It was nothing to do with the sound. I ended up finding a site that does the 650 cable at a custom length with a nice metal end/plug.

>>55969708
Why would you buy a $1000 dac if you know that the e10k is good enough?

What the actual fuck. I can actually hear the difference between the e10k and the odac. Why the fuck would you buy an amp that expensive 'for no special reason.

Btw I bought the 650's last week from amazon as a test and they're technically worse than the 600's. The only improvement is the bass and the extra amount is TINY. The 600's sound better overall and the vocals are clearly better.

Not even trying to be a dickhead or argue. I'm just being honest.

>>55967574
The version I heard was the initial 100 ohm, not the 200 ohm version that replaced it. I don't know what else changed from that. I'm sure the nearby dealers have them, but I don't want to bother with it.
HD600 bass has more boom and sounds thicker and hazier in the low-lower mid in comparison. For certain tracks with lots of power under 40 to 30 Hz, it gives more vibration down at the base of your throat in addition to the strong low bass tone. The sensation is smoothly integrated, it isn't sloped off and doesn't drop off a shelf like most other coil or some planar headphones.

There's more to the sound than bass, and I'm probably nitpicking.

The styling is too gaudy for my taste. I also forgot that those blue cables were stock. The gloss smudges easily and it's heavier than the other open LCDs from all the metal used.

>>55968523
Lowers noise and interference pickup with long cables, appreciated when you have to do a long cable run with a mic right next a bunch of hot power cabling. It also helps cancel ground noise with powered devices.
For a short cable on earbuds it doesn't do much of anything.

>>55971005
Definitely doesn't sound worth the price increase from the hd600 then. I still think they look sexy but that's where it ends for me.

How good is Shure about replacement parts outside warranty? My dumbass brother knocked my SRH840s off my desk and broke the hinge.

Got an 800S. Is going balanced necessary? In terms of amping, what would I need to properly drive these cans? Preferably staying under a $1000 would be ideal. Thanks.

>>55956288
>not naming the image muddy headphones

PortaPro or PX100-II?

I have MSR7s, M100s, all my sources are shit..so..putting budget at $650 max

HTC 10 for $600 new
Dragonfly Black or Red + eventual headphone upgrade
Chord Mojo $400-$450 used +eventual headphone upgrade, $600 new

Which pile to burn my money?

>>55971493
Which would make you the most happy?

>>55971518

Dunno. The phone would be great to have and is most portable.

Current headphones wouldn't get much more out of the black or red, maybe not even out of the mojo, but opens up headphone upgrade options and gives me improved SQ on any device.

>>55970680
This is my first time seeing those.

>>55971607
Also, I already have a smartphone, low end i got for free. It does what I want, and I'm not much of a power user (yet), except its SQ is shit.

There are also other, cheaper phones with comparable/better sound quality I could get.

Best pair of headphones for $250?

>>55971725
Fill out the form.

Reminder that chink IEMs are memes.If you want cheap IEMs with good sound quality, get the Panasonic rp-hje120 (or the rp-tcm125 if you want a mic and remote).

Are there ANY wireless headphones with good audio quality? Like, M50 quality. Price not being an issue.

is the schiit modi2+magni2 stack worth it?

Is there some non-shit cheap mp3 player like the sandisk sansa jam or something that I can throw an sd card in just to have a shitload of music on it? I can't keep all my music on my phone. I just want it to have the ability to use playlists and basic stuff like that.

>>55972228
yeah
the sandisk sansa

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>>55972228
>I can't keep all my music on my phone

>>55972256
>something that I can throw an sd card in
>suggest an sd card
well played

>>55972290
I suggested that he put a microSD card in his phone.

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I'm looking for a decent pair of music headphones for using around campus. I want over ear and closed. Price range is around $40 to $60.
Why is 419 better than 429? Also, anyone know about the 429s?
General comments or recommendations are appreciated.

>>55972321
Plenty of phones don't have sdcard slots

are the hd25-ii still a good buy or is there a better closed portable headphone at the 200-250 price point?

>>55972349
the K240 is better than any of those

>>55972626
Nobody that cares about music would buy such a phone though.

>>55966240
Oh god. It's the Me & My Brother-fag at it again. Shuush. Just let it happen.

E10 is measured on NwAvGuy's blog and it's neutral kek.

>>55972647
That is a false conclusion

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>>55965973
This looks great, thanks

got a broken pair of siberia v2 from my local pc store for free
no audio on right ear.
should i try to repair it? any idea if it's the wire or the speaker itself that's busted?
i have soldering skills

>>55973578
also, how the fuck do i open it up without breaking the plastic?

>turn my windows volume down to 50%
>crank my fiio e10k to max
>mind blown
>can literally hear everything, it's perfect
>using the dt880s

Jesus christ, it's amazing but definitely would not want to do this for long periods of time.

>>55973176>>55965973
These aren't wireless though

is burn in a meme?

>>55973644
Depends on who you ask. Hardcore objectivists will say it is though most subjectivists will say it is real.

what happened to SHP9500 discussion? if you want an open headphone sub-$200 it should be the only thing recommended

>>55956377
I have them they are practically indestructible. They are really the best purchase I've made this year.

>>55973907
HD558 is better, SHP9500 is tinny as fuck.

>>55973634
>>turn my windows volume down to 50%
>>crank my fiio e10k to max
retard

>>55974001
stop shilling sennheiser

>>55956226
>>55956226
SO.. I am following up on a recommendation from a couple of days ago where someone in a previous hpg thread told me to get the MIA750s after my gr07's died.

Basically I was borderline returning them. I tried all the different tips and they all seemed to not give a great seal and the music didnt sound good. Very airy, very faint bass, but quality voice & highs. I seriously thought it was the earbuds, but I still had the tips from the gr07's and tried them. BAM! Instantly perfect. Great bass, well balanced. Sounds fucking great.

tl;dr my ear canals are too fucking strange and hpg did a good job.

At what point is diminishing returns reached without using DACs, amps, or anything besides a standard 3.5mm port on a PC? I was recommenced OPPO PM-3's and I'm not sure if it's excessive if I'm just plugging into a standard audio jack.

>>55974471
The biggest difference will be the audio source quality (e.g. 128kb/s MP3 vs. 320kb/s MP3) and the headphone itself. So you should be fine if the PM-3 can be powered from a phone or similar device. You'll probably still notice a benefit from at least an amp though how much depends on a few factors.

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>>55956226
okey guys in your opinion whats the best looking pair of headphones you know. Image related

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>>55974531

>>55962545
HE-400i is really good, just remember to do the grill mod if you do buy them. Although if your budget is that much, I'd probably go for LCD-2 or HE-560.

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>>55974531

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>>55974531
Always loved the look of these.

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>>55974531
Parrot Zik is fucking ugly

>>55960404
XB line is a meme that doesn't deserve the hype. if you're a basshead you can buy stuff with a less wonky fr.

>>55962519
I think people realized the beyer treble spike just makes them outright worse than the competition. AKG might be brighter in general than sennheiser but it's not beyer tier. they have a problem with producing headphones with fatiguing treble, very few of their models do not have this problem.

>>55974617
This looks like a torture device

>>55974617
From looking at the thumb I thought it was woman's head inside a mailbox.

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>>55974791
If they weren't so fucking expensive. How do these things actually sound?

>>55966531
I have the hd600 and q701. the problems with the hd600 are:
-bass impact/punch could be better, still pretty damn good but it gets into the lower mids a bit, so it can sound a bit muffled at times
-upper mids a tad muted sounding
-upper mids/highs are well extended and detailed but they have a soft texture, kind of the opposite of some headphones that have grainy treble. it makes it forgiving and easy-listening but if you're coming from something that has unforgiving upper mids and treble it can sound less detailed and airy.
-soundstage is good but not the best, AKG and even the 598 are better imo.

keep in mind I'm really nitpicking, they're still better than 99.999% of headphones out there. but I don't think they're outright better than competitors like AKG, just different. but honestly you have to be pretty experienced to notice these little details. your average listener, even one that has owned multiple good headphones will probably think they're the fucking best and that's fine.

>>55972628
msr7, hp50

the hd25 is good but it's an on-ear made more as a workhorse headphone than for pure listening and comfort.

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>>55974531
meze 99 classic and the hd800 + variants. even though I know they're both overpriced memes that I personally would not buy.

>>55962545
If I recall correctly grill mods fixed the old HE-400 models. New HE-400i's don't need grill mods they need new fucking pads. Ether C or Alpha pads.

>>55972628
M100s if you like some bass. Probably the best portable

MSR7 and the MDR are also good

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post doggos

>>55974967
I think I'd buy the HD800 at around $600-700. I do like the sound of them, and I think I can just EQ away the spike at 7Khz.

It's too expensive at the normal asking price though.

>>55975207
>600g on that midget
Why

>>55975207
trying to break your dog's neck? jesus.

>Budget
AUD $200; cheaper if possible

>Location
Australia

>Source
PC Mobo Jack

>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized

>Open or closed
Closed and decent isolation is important; this is the only feature I can go over budget for and I've already stretched to get to $200

>Comfort level
Good

>Preferred tonal balance
no preference

>Past headphones
logitech g430; had good virtual surround as it's only pro

>Other features
detachable cable is preferred; the cable getting caught in my chairs wheels one too many times was what killed my current headphones

I was looking at Lindy HF100/HF110 (NVX XPT100 / Brainwavz HM5) and just wondering if there's a better alternative based on locale because they're $170 and $200 respectively in Australia

>>55975237
>>55975231
LCD-2 is damn heavy. I tried it.

>>55975384
iirc the LCD X is 100g heavier than the 2

>>55971607
If you can bear with lugging around a portable amp/dac in your pocket then you are not limited to a phone with good audio design.

But it is a pain in the ass having to carry another fucking case around and charge it regularly as well.

I have HTC 10 with MSR7 sounds pretty good, too bad the passive isolation on the MSR7 is complete utter shit at low frequencies and gets rather uncomfortable for both my jaw and outer earlobe after an hour of use.

Not comfy listening to at loud volume to overcome high ambient noise level either. Gets grating after a while.

>>55975478
How's that comfortable for the listener?

>>55975697
It isn't.

How are the m6 from mee?

>>55974688
>I think people realized the beyer treble spike just makes them outright worse than the competition.
How I see it, the Beyer treble is an easy fix, the response is fairly even otherwise compared to say AKG's coloration. And compared to the AKG coloration without fixing it's not any better or worse imo.

>>55974471
>At what point is diminishing returns reached
Anything above your working motherboard stereo output jack, decently encoded file and a pair of good headphones. First two are easy and achieve transparency with little effort or investment. Headphones have highly varying sound signatures and whatever suits you the best is subjective.
>I'm not sure if it's excessive if I'm just plugging into a standard audio jack.
This is yet another common audio myth of equipment of different type somehow bottlenecking each other. PM3 is fine if you like a dark sounding closed back headphone with fairly high sensitivity. If the output jack in your computer doesn't cause any audible problems right now, it won't do so either with PM3. Correspondinly if the output you are using right now is of bad quality and has audible problems, those problems persist regardless of what kind of equipment you plug into it.

>>55975697
Don't know anyone who would've found heavy headphones more comfortable than light ones.

>Budget
~$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Macbook pro and a cheap smsl portable amp
>Preferred type of headphone
on ear / over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
S+
>Preferred tonal balance
Mid, bright
>Past headphones
bunch of budget shit <$50

I need something with gr8 isolation and build quality, preferably also folds

>>55971174
Balanced audio is for long interconnects to avoid interference and noise pick up in environments where those are a problem. It's also used for certain types of microphone connections. It's completely useless for headphones.

HD 800S is an easy load, a little bit insensitive compared to the average headphone but nothing special. O2/Magni is more than enough really.

>>55975904
msr7?
bit out of your budget & more balanced than bright but hey

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open
>k553s are going for 120 now
what the fuck, didn't these used to sell for like 180 or so on massdrop?

>>55956295
sennheiser cx 300

first pair lasted me a few years. snagged them and through them and washed them so many times.

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Anyone here using Focusrite Scarlett as a DAC for headphones? Wondering how does it stack against more common DACs/audio cards in terms of reproduction quality?

>>55976620
Low output power, not a good option for insensitive headphones.

>>55976620
Steinberg UR22 mkii is better

>>55976781
Yeah read that on bunch of other sites, I would stick a cheap headphone amp between it and headphones. But what about sound itself? Would it be up to par to similarly priced devices? (120 euros or so)

>>55976805
For headphone amplification alone you can do better for the budget. Do you need the other features such as I/O options on that audio interface? Can you settle with something like O2 or Magni?

>>55976799
It's good but also lacks output power for insensitive headphones.

>>55976799
Unsure whether its available here, will check it out.
>>55976827
Yes I do. I am getting it as a jack of all trades device, I want it for recording guitars/vocals but also as an upgrade from my shitty onboard for regular music listening. USB is a must so I can switch it from desktop to laptop on a whim.

Problem is that with these devices inputs are the basic priority and rarely do reviews tackle on the output quality. Scarletts supposedly have a fairly high quality DAC so I thought 100 buckaroos for it and 30ish for separate cheap amp wouldn't be a bad deal. I would like to avoid going over that price.

Will check the Steinberg from above, but if there are other alternatives I am willing to listen for ideas. Thanks dudes.

Hey /hpg/, could someone recommend me a few decent headphones for ~30$? I'm an Europoor cant really afford more than that for it sadly. I'd use it with mainly on my pc but occasionally on my smartphone.

>>55976879
Koss Porta Pro are like the best headphones below 150€. You could get them for around 30-35€.

>>55956226
I just got some SHP9500s based on recommendations I saw here.

These things are comfy as fuck and sound pretty good. How the fuck are they not more popular in this price range?

>>55977298
they were too hyped & jumped up significantly in price
haven't checked their price recently but I assume they're still overpriced due to their hype

>>55976879
hd668b/hd681

>>55977392
I just got a pair for $60. That doesn't really seem overpriced to me.

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>mfw just bought a discounted DT-990
what am I in for, anons?

>>55977420
Treble rape

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>>55977298
No idea. I guess hype? Good luck getting replacement parts with Philips.

>>55974042
Replacement parts are easy peasy with Sennheiser.

>>55977420
Strong V-shape signature, godly comfort.
Hoje much did you paid for them?

>>55977551
about 135 USD, things tend to get a price bump in Australia though so I think that's fairly good

>>55977420
Pro or Premium?
I'm looking at this DT990 for 149 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-990-Premium-32-Headphones/dp/B0024NK344/

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I don't really go on /hpg/ but my old headset is cracking and I figured out i'm fed up with headsets. Would prefer some knowledge on mod mics and if they're worth it.

>Budget
$100 in amazon bucks
>Location
America
>Source
My computer headphone jack
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
It needs to be comfy enough to not hurt my fucking ears during long listening sessions (8+ hours). That's it.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser PC 350 SE are the ones i'm using right now. They sound fine to me, but I'm a pleb. However, I'm planning on buying headphones this time and maybe using a modmic as I stated earlier. I just don't know if that's really a good setup.

>>55977657
Premium

>>55977706
online seller?
link?

>>55978978
>>55978978
>>55978978
NEW THREAD

>>55977687
Are you me?