/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>55936849
Under £500 god mode.

Are M-Audio HDH50 headphones considered audiophile /g/ood?

Looking for headphones with detachable cables and under 200$

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Sup

>>55937040
Should've added more to my post

Looking for decent headphones under 200$
Needs to be closed
Needs to have detachable cables
Needs to have no major flaws
Will use it primarily with the computer

M-Audio HDH50 headphones seem to fit those criteria, however there could be something that I don't know about that is a dealbreaker.

Are there any problems with my possible choice in headphones

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The cord that runs from my audio out to my headphones' L and R plugs is fucked. Can you guys recommend a cable that is really durable but comfortable? For a while I used the Sony MDR-XB500 with flat cables and they were never damaged in the several years I used them. I'm currently using the NVX XPT100 and the cables tore in only half a year of use

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how does akg k240 mkii compare to fostex t50rp mk3?
they're both semi open, from what i understand.

I'm looking to get a new pair of in-ears. I don't want to spend more than $50; as these are just to wear around and I don't need endgame sound. I have a few that I just recently found. Would anyone recommend these? Please recommend me something else if you don't like what I've picked out. Thank you.

>1MORE Piston Classic In-Ear Headphones
https://www.amazon.com/1MORE-Piston-Classic-Headphones-Space/dp/B01FNAYRSM
>TFZ Series 3 IEM
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tfz-series-3-iem
>Fanmusic E6
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fanmusic-e6

>>55936849
Why are the OP of these threads so retarded, it should just contain the links and nothing else like a proper general.

>>55937188
Haven't heard the M-Audios myself but the Shure SRH840 are quite good.

>>55936849
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>55938050
Thanks will give that a look if the M-Audio headphones don't work for my tastes

Got the info on the M-Audio headphones on
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Headphones

Which contains a pastebin to a buying guide
http://pastebin.com/CCQCUv5e

Fuck, I just realized there's no point in speakers unless you have A LOT of money. Really headphones provide amazing fidelity for the price.

>>55937120
Is that the AKG K702 and the Fiio E10K?
If so, is it any good? I'm thinking of getting the same setup

>>55937751
Some autists insist on "rules" which aren't agreed on. Others are too lazy to just remove those bits from the OP.

>>55938143
>Fuck, I just realized there's no point in speakers unless you have A LOT of money. Really headphones provide amazing fidelity for the price
That's dumb. Both have their uses and neither have to cost a lot.

>>55938157
>Is that the AKG K702 and the Fiio E10K?
Yed
> If so, is it any good? I'm thinking of getting the same setup
Yes it's very good. What music do you listen to?

>>55938197
A range of things
Radiohead to MF DOOM

>>55938208
It's a great setup but not the best for hip hop and rap. They're very detailed but sound very thin.

>>55938191
Yeah but the problem is room acoustics. There's no getting around it, room treatment is fucking expensive and if you don't have it your frequency response is all over the place.

>>55938208
K702 shines on acoustic music, but, as you can see from my template, I like listening to different music genres. So far I haven't found a single music genre that sounds disappointing on my setup. Keep in mind that you will probably have to adjust the volume of E10K some times in order to find the right volume level, but don't worry, once you do, the K702 will reward you in a special way.

Coming from se-215 iems. Wasnt impressed with the quality and theyve recently kicked the bucket, so Im looking for a replacement pair. Definitely upgrading, I want something to suck me in Everytime Im listening.

So to do this, Isolating anything that isnt the music is one of my top priorities. My 215s did not have enough isolation, ill definitely need more. Ive been looking at the customart music ones. From reviews Ive read though, it seems that its overkill on the isolation and lackluster in music quality for the price. I listen to a lot of chill warmer stuff like Nujabes, saib, joji, and James Blake. So that mid range is very important (and that area being the strength of the custom ones is what drew me in.)

Any recommendations on mid-foward iems with great isolation? My budget is up to $300, although flexible.

>>55937648
I recently bought two KZ ATEs. Chinese made and only costed me 23€ for the two pairs. Check them see if you like the design. In terms of sound. They are very good. I know a bunch of much higher priced in ears that are shit in comparison. Had them for about 3 months and neither me or my friend have anything to dislike about them. The design is okay if you don't mind sports type in ears, the end of the cable on the earbud side is thickened and retains shape so they stand rather solidly around your ear while remaining discreet. Sound is balanced, with no eqing you'll have decent bass, no screaming highs, quite clear mids. They also sound very very wide. For 10 to 12$ a piece the value for money is retarded.
I can't say about 5 or 10 months from now but i'm confident.

>>55937469
Why don't you just order some new wire from Monoprice or Lunashops or something?

>>55937751
That's because we have idiots changing the OP to include nonsense and people who just copypaste the previous OP.

It's useless clutter, more so than the guides we don't link directly in the OP anymore.

>>55937501
IIRC K240mk2 had a fair bit of upper bass boost around 150 Hz roughly. I think there were some little treble spikes, but otherwise fairly level midrange. Memory is a little hazy.

T50rp mk3 bandwidth is not good, it's rolled off at both ends, upper mid recessed and such.

I'd suggest the K240 mk2.

>>55938281
It's not that big of a deal. Near field listening especially is dominated by the first wave/on axis response and reflections aren't a huge problem. Properly designed loudspeakers with wide directivity and some DSP gets you far and help a lot in acoustically challenging environments. Room treatment isn't all that expensive either but a hassle/inconvenience in living quarters, sometimes an eye sore too.

>>55938439
Thanks :). Where did you buy yours? I found them on Amazon for $11.76, and on Aliexpress for $7.99. Is it safer to buy from Amazon?

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>>55937120
>having used and damaged goods as waifu

>>55938439
There are tons of higher priced in-ears that are just poor, so statements such as worth 10x or 100x the price are just a load of bull.
There are so many hundreds of earphones, way too many for any one person to try. Saying value for money is a statement that has little if any meaning. At best, it has favorable traits over some select popular models.

I have to wonder if you are a crazy basshead and don't realize it, but that's another thing entirely.

>>55938281
>room treatment is fucking expensive
If you want to hit the low end modes, metal panel traps quickly add up to thousands of dollars.
Mercifully, this part of room acoustics can be treated by subwoofer array and/or EQ(unlike the rest of the spectrum).

Broadband acoustic traps are easier to build or purchase, and clean up mid and upper frequencies.

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>tfw HD 800
You don't know what your missing.

>>55938797
>You don't know what your missing.
peaky treble, recessed upper midrange, muffled tone

:^)

>>55938809
Ah more poor fag's tears to fill my cup.

The headphones are neutral. Now, only the music to blame.

Women are, objectively, the most beautiful when seen from below.
>tfw not 3' tall

>>55938797
>your

>>55938872
>The headphones are neutral.
My fucking sides.

>>55938872
In what world are the HD 800s neutral?

What does /g/ think of the hyperx clouds and cloud 2s for all my gayming?

>>55938931
The real one.

>>55938935
Read the fucking sticky. It'll tell you to read the fucking wiki. It'll tell you that you suck and we hate you.

Are Sennheiser Game zero considered "high-end" audiophile level of headphones?

>>55938948
Your reality is warped.

>>55938935
/g/ unanimously agrees that they are tip top cans

>>55938961
Neither of those terms have much correlation at all with sound. They wouldn't be marketed as high end and likely fall quite a bit short of Sennheiser's own open back headphones in that price range. Short answer: no.

>>55938306
Can you elaborate a little more on the SE215?

>overkill isolation
That's very hard to achieve. If you could get a tight fit on the 215 with foam ear tips, that would already be pretty high on the isolation chain.

>mid-foward iems with great isolation
Ety ER-4P/Music One could fit, but this is why we'd like to hear more what you thought of the SE215, to get a hint if it is suited to you

>>55938872
>poor fags
>not HD 800S

k

>>55939011
>Distorted bass
It's an extra $400 ignorance fee

>>55938306
Have you heard of the custom art music one? They're CIEMs so you're going to get top notch isolation and they're only ~$200. Haven't auditioned them personally so I'm not too sure about the sound, but I've heard good things.

>>55938306
>>55939078
I'm dumb didn't read your whole post pls ignore

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>Budget 200 USD
>Location USA
>Source PC
>Preferred type of headphone Full Sized
>Open or closed Closed
>Comfort level High
>Preferred tonal balance Neutral/some bass
>Past headphones DT 770 ATH M20

>>55938931
Bizarro world.
>>55938935
One of the very few non-shit gaymen headsets.
>>55939006
The ER-4P are exact opposites from the SE215, I'd imagine him having a hard time getting used to the Ety sound.
>>55939107
What's wrong with DT770? Try DT250 80 ohm.

>>55939133
The DT770s i had just gave out on me after 2 years of very intense use. They were great headphones overall but I want something with a replaceable cable this time.

>>55938797
>tfw 600's are my end game.

I'd love to try the hd800's but I could never pay that price and I hate the look of them physically..

I'm not going to mock them like everyone else since I've never tried them.but i'm happy that you enjoy them anon.

>Budget
up to $300

>Source
willing to spend ~$250 for amp/dac setup

>Preferred type of headphone
Open, above average soundstage, good instrument separation, no muddiness

>Comfort level
Good

>Preferred tonal balance
Warm side of neutral

>>55936849
>stupid anime image
>"wireless is frowned upon"
>"headset requests are frowned upon"

Your thread sucks

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>>55939212
Damn anon. I'm sorry. I was just excited about my new purchase and wanted to brag to feel better about myself.

I don't have much reason to care about looks, but the HD 800 are quite comfy. Enjoy your HD 600s.

What is the absolute cheapest headphones you would recommend purchasing? Assume no other stipulations, just the absolute most bottom-of-the-barrel that you wouldn't consider a waste of money. This is purely for curiosity's sake.

>>55936872
Had this set up myself, it's good but I switched to uber versions of the modi 2 and magni 2. they sound cleaner with more open bass, however they are a bit more expensive than the O2.

>>55939321
I just have to know. I'm guessing you owned the 600's before the 800's.

Do you think the 600s sound like mud compared to the 800's?

>>55939421
Nah man. I had the AKG 702 and the M50s before.

HD 800s are way better than 702, which i like much more than the M50.

I don't know about the 600s, but I heard they are very good. People say they'd cost more if not for the build quality.

>>55939421
>Do you think the 600s sound like mud compared to the 800's?

Not him, I have both.

Comfort? HD800 wins.
Build quality? HD800 wins.
Ergonomics? HD800 wins.
Sound quality? HD600 wins.

Sound differences between both are due to the frequency response. HD800 sounds like it has more bass, recessed upper midrange and more treble.

HD800's bass difference isn't because the driver extends better, it's due to the frequency response being recessed in the upper midrange so the bass feels perceptibly stronger as a result.

HD800 also has a peak at 6kHz which makes it sound bright and sibilant at times.

Clarity is better on the HD600, note that clarity != treble quantity.

HD800 sounds more distant, I'm guessing this is due to the recession in the upper midrange.

HD800 gets 90% of my head time because of the comfort, but the stock sound signature is really shit.

>>55939448
My first real headphones were the 702's also. They're very detailed and have great soundstage but they sound thin and harsh compared to the 600's. Listening to music and watching films just sounds 'right' on the 600's.

>>55939683
If the K702 sounds thin compared to a HD600 then it didn't seal well on your head. K702 has more bass than the HD600. Too much that creeps into the lower midrange, not really a fan of that.

>>55939448
>if not for the build quality
kek
very true, they are cheap but they won't fall apart like some chink phones. I.E. Hifiman

>>55939652
So.. the hd600 is clearly better as an actual headphone? especially in terms of price

>>55939738
Purely on sound quality? It's better.

It loses on everything else.

I've been spoiled by the HD800. 3rd time owning it, btw.

>Budget
Up to 60USD
>Location
West Coast America
>Source
Samsung S6, or any phone I get in the future
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Medium
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or Warm
>Past headphones
Just a bunch of shitty $20 IEMs

>>55939883
tfz series 3

>>55939783
If the 600 actually sounds better how can you even own the 800 at that price?

I'm all for build quality and I know the 600 is a bit plasticy...but. The price difference is insane especially if the 800 sounds worse than the 600

>>55939783
the 600 are still more comfortable than most, you can wear it all day without any trouble

>>55939783
What did you use as your amp for the 600s? Are you using a different one with the 800s?

>>55938961
they're HD558's with a mic, overprised but good. not high end though

>>55940115
don't own the 800s but the 600s sound great with the modi and magni 2 uber

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Is 600 vs 800 the new threadly argument?

How's the QC situation on the X2's right now? Still shady or are most of the bad ones gone away?

>>55940202
Well it's better than seeing the arguments against the clearly inferior 702 time after time.

>>55940248
What about Snapheiser vs Beyersremorse?

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They finally came in, time to sell my M50's

>>55940045
I paid 1000 USD for it (no tax) on amazon.

The HD600's build quality isn't bad per se but the HD800 outclasses it if you heavily value build quality or you treat your headphones like shit (letting them fall, etc.).

>>55940045
The HD600 is very comfortable, but the HD800 is even more so.

>>55940115
I'm using the Objective2 with both. I don't buy into the high end amps meme.

>>55939133
>I'd imagine him having a hard time getting used to the Ety sound.
Also said that he didn't like the 215, which leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

>>55940045
"Sound quality" described thus far, the magnitude response or the sensitivity, is a trivial issue.

>>55940279
But the 800 costs around four times more than an already expensive hd600. If it doesn't sound better then it doesn't make any sense. Who the fuck would pay x4 times more for better build quality?

>>55939335
A three dollar SmithGear is better than nothing.

DarkVoice 336SE vs LittleDot MKIII

>>55940496
It is better, but not in way that has been mentioned so far. /hpg/ has a obsession with frequency response of the headphone, but this is not directly important, even if the response issue dominates quality perception.
Parametric EQ and convolution can create any sort of response on any set of headphones.

>>55940496
The 800 can sound way better than the 600 with the right mods.

However, you must realize that diminishing returns are crazy in high end headphone world. After around the $300 level, you're just paying for an extra 4-5% increase in sound quality. At that level, people just buy headphones/amps/etc according to pure personal preference.

>>55940616
>However, you must realize that diminishing returns are crazy in high end headphone world. After around the $300 level, you're just paying for an extra 4-5% increase in sound quality. At that level, people just buy headphones/amps/etc according to pure personal preference.

To be fair I already understand that. My 600's sound brilliant but ,
my o2+odac is only just better than the £50 usb sabre dac I used previously.


I understand that any improvement is gold at this point but that other guy said that the 600 actually sounds better than the 800.

>>55937501
I own the K240. (The Studio, not the MK2, but I think they're the same driver.) Sound-wise, I doubt they're even remotely similar-- the T50RP would wipe the floor with the AKG.

Tonally, the AKG is kind of a mess, and in fact I never use it for music (TV only.)

However, the K240 is literally the most comfortable full-size headphone I have ever experienced (especially once you change the pads-- I use DT770 pads.) The headband system on the K240 is genius, and the K240 is so light it barely feels like anything is on your head.

I would recommend the K240, especially with a pad mod, but I wouldn't recommend it as an only headphone and I wouldn't really recommend it for music.

>>55939006
The bass muddled every thing and nothing was crisp. When I put on my open headphones (HFI-2400) I could get the full body of the layered music. Se215 suppresses the treble, and it's only strength is the bass, at the sacrifice of the mids.

Also I used the small foam tips and they were close to what I wanted. Something more would be nice tho.

>>55940614
How is the HD800 better than the HD600? I await your response.

>>55940616
What mods? Most of the early mods made the HD800 sound really muddy by boosting the midbass and lower midrange relative to the rest of the spectrum.

>>55939986
Massdrop is selling those right now. Should I get them off of there or some chink site?

>>55940861
Depends on how long you want to wait. Massdrop's shipping method is really shit.

>>55940771
Check these out:

http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/superbaf-hd800-mod-formerly-btamod.254/

http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/hd800-french-mod-aka-superdupont-resonator.1147/

>>55940896
I agree, I don't want to wait until Sept 6th to get these. Is this a reputable site to buy from?
http://penonaudio.com/TFZ-SERIES-3

>>55940928
idk m8 looks fine to me

>>55940962
Alright, thanks man :)

>>55939321
this much respect in a thread<
feelsfriendlyman

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>tfw end game reached

>>55940771
More linearity and more consistent response.

As for the HD800, they've made their way to attempting earpad modification now. The resonator/French mod has only a little impact.

>>55941082
Are you 15?

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>>55940261
how'd you get such a price? was it used by a leper that never took a shower or something?

>>55941133
>More linearity and more consistent response.
Not like the HD600 or HD650 has problems with consistency and by consistency you're referring to sealing and bass leakage right?

By linearity you're referring to the distortion or frequency response. Either way the distortion on both are at acceptable levels and the FR on the HD600 is superior to the HD800's.

I find it funny how vanilla HD800 owners negatively portrait the HD800S' distortion levels, not that it matters in listening, it's just dick waving at this point.

>>55941082
Mercy is worst girl you pleb.

Widowmaker is where it's at.

>>55941329
Whoops, meant tracer is worst girl.

But Mercy is shit too.

>>55941213
>consistency you're referring to sealing and bass leakage right
Partially.
It refers to reseat and reposition changes, leakage and cavity modes. The latter is the more serious issue for most open backed headphones.
Linearity does not refer directly to frequency response. However, frequency response is necessarily a linear property; it is not possible to define a frequency response without linearity;

>the FR on the HD600 is superior to the HD800's.
Pretty irrelevant. They have about the same number of bad points.

>vanilla HD800 owners
I own the HD 600. As for the difference, it's small.

I need a 3.5mm cable extension, maybe a foot or two. Are they all more or less the same?

>>55941365
>widowmaker
>not shit
>mercy and tracer
>shit

Get a tripcode so I can filter it.

>Budget
$150 max
>Location
US
>Source
Mobile, mp3 player
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Silly question
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral but with good bass response
>Past headphones
DT-880 for home use (love), Porta Pro for on the go (great but no isolation), Etymotic MK5 (love the design, loathe the sound)

>>55941647
https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMM-103-Stereo-Interconnect-Cable/dp/B000068O37/

>Are they all more or less the same?
Bad cables exist but cables that do more than what they are meant to do don't. High end cables are the ultimate snek oil.

>>55941711
Thanks for that, but I was actually referring to a female to male rather than male on both ends.

>>55939411
>they sound cleaner with more open bass
abx or gtfo

I use $12 walmart usb speakers bought in like 2006. I don't want to sit and analyze the frequency spectrum of audio.

I work professionally in audio. I don't listen to music because silence is more relaxing to me. And I don't care about people's lyrics or 'soul' of their music when I'm off work in the slightest hint.

>>55938931
The same world where people think a muddy and veiled can like the HD600 is neutral.

>>55941746
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004PO2HSK/

>>55941134
I'm an infant.

>>55941329
>>55941365
>Tracer
>worst girl

where u live mate, ill fuck u up r8 good

>>55941679
>Silly question

It's a more important question if you had a higher budget and there were more valid options. At yours I would say se-215 if you dont mind a focus on the lows with a sacrifice the treble and mids. Because I like the presence of treble and mids, this bothers me. MA-750s are also good. Haven't had them, but if I were to repurchase in your price range that's what I'd get.

>>55941679
Use this site for IEM recommendations:
http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone-list/

>>55941420
>reseat and reposition changes
Fair enough, the HD800 is consistent on this whereas the treble on the HD600/HD650 seems to change a bit, can even induce a peak.

>cavity modes
I'm afraid I don't understand this so I won't comment on it.

>Pretty irrelevant. They have about the same number of bad points.

I'd disagree here. The HD600 just has inferior bass extension. I hope you aren't advocating using EQ on these headphones since this makes the stock comparison pointless. Even if the HD800 is has a better technical design, the stock sound signature is terrible in my opinion, you wouldn't buy speakers with a HD800 signature would you?

>>55937501
>>55938476

anyone else try out the fostex t50rp mk3? ive heard either super positive or quite negative reviews of them, and am trying to sort it out, because i like semiopen and that aesthetic is sweet

>>55942029
Thanks for the recs. I understand with price comes comfort, but it seems like an unnecessary prerequisite for the template. Just clutter imo, but I guess it is relevant to many.
>>55942076
Always forget about this; thanks.

Are the Jaybird Freedom the best workout headphones atm?

>>55941769
>h-hey guise look how cool and hipster I am for hating the popular HD600 headphone

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>>55937648

Add some foam tips and these are good sounding and practically disposable:

https://www.amazon.com/SoundMAGIC-ES18-Headphones-Black-Silver/dp/B008ZZ72OO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1470457194&sr=8-2&keywords=soundmagic+es18

Mine have lasted through being washed twice and over 4 years of hard use.

at what headphone price point are DACs worth it? Also best budget amp under 150?

So are Sen 598 the go-to entry level set if you have no intention of ever getting an external DAC/amp?

>>55942541

Good cheap amps are the O2, the Schiit Magni, and the Schiit Magni Uber. The Magni is the cheapest, followed by the O2, followed by the Uber. I personally own the O2 and it works just fine for me, no complaints. But even then, don't buy an amp unless you know your headphones need amplification.

I'd say start with an amp and get a DAC later if you experience any of the following:
* harshness
* audible noise when no music is playing
* loss of detail
* your audio source doesn't get loud enough. This is usually most noticeable on movies, which are mixed quieter that music. Your amp could be plenty loud enough on music but too quiet on movies, this indicates enough amp power but not enough input volume to the amp.
* a general desire to upgrade.

Don't get a combined DAC/amp if you can help it.

Whatever you do, don't run a headphone straight off a DAC. That's not what they're designed for.

>>55942743
>Whatever you do, don't run a headphone straight off a DAC.

Wait, why not?

>>55942851
Because the output stage of a DAC is not powerful enough to drive a headphone. A DAC isn't actually an amplifier.

It might seem loud enough, but loudness is usually correlated with voltage, whereas what you need is the ability to deliver both voltage and current. Symptoms of adequate voltage swing but inadequate current delivery are clipping-style distortion and weak bass.

>>55942560
HD558, HD598 and the special edition HD598 are all the same thing. These headphones are perfect except for their large impedance swing, so I recommend them with an external DAC/amp unit.

>tfw fell for the he-400 meme

>>55942990
Anything in particular you would recommend that doesn't require or wouldn't benefit from external equipment?

>>55942743
What standalone DAC would you recommend? I don't want to spend too much on one because of obvious diminishing returns

>>55943042
ATH-M50x has a really flat impedance, so it works well on most sources, it's susceptible to bass roll-off on outputs that make use of capacitive coupling but it's a bass heavy headphone, so if that does occur, it will still sound very good.

>>55943144
I ended up getting the Schiit Modi, since that was the cheapest one that still seemed reasonably good. (It's noticeably cheaper than the odac.)

>>55939411
do i need to pay for m&m 2 combo to understand what open bass means anon

>>55943210
>it's susceptible to bass roll-off on outputs that make use of capacitive coupling
Care to elaborate on why is this. What kind of load suffers from bass roll off on capacitive coupled outputs?

Is the HD600 shill still around? /hpg/ is so unbearable with him.

All of these adjectives you guys use is like a wine "expert" talking.

>Yea bro this is an airy bright wine with fruity after notes.

None of that means anything, and most people are bullshitting.
> "open bass"
>"bright"
>"Crisp"

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>>55937120

>>55940743
I should note that I do actually like bass. I'm just really wanting some of those high end $300 phones that near hit the peak of sound performance, I'm tired of mediocre equipment. The profile of the Music Ones is exactly what I'm looking for, the reason I'm hesitant is that I've read in multiple places that you can get better quality from universals for the same price

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>>55943502
yes

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Alright /hpg/, post the music you use for pushing the cans you have to the limit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er416Ad3R1g

>>55943550
Most annoying shills are AKG weeaboo shills, then HD800 shills who seek validation for their shitty expensive audio toy.

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>>55943558

>doesn’t speak audiophile
>makes a flamboyant comparison
>continues to listen to potatoes phones
> says they sound good

>>55943799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emncf4kP_m0
Eng dub only

>>55943294
I might get one too if theres nothing cheaper thats worth it. I finally got an amp and immediately heard buzzing/whine/whatever its called from the onboard audio

>>55943903
>unironically liking the dub
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx03zTvL4K0

>>55943971
>implying
Posted it because it's bad, m80.

>>55943966
Yeah, in that case you need a DAC. Schiit Modi is what was recommended to me as the minimum worthwhile desktop DAC, so I'm just relaying that advice to you. Mine fixed similar issues to what you describe with my speaker amp.

The ODAC is good too but it's pricier.

>tfw you've been using dj100s for years now

what's the upgrade path for something similar?

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>>55943966
>>55944000
>spending $400+ on something that just gives more voltage and another thing to clean hissing

>>55944045
Put it this way. If you own a car, you probably spent at least $5000 on it. I know I did. But I spend more time listening to music than I do driving my car. If you listen to music for 4-6 hours a day for years and years, then it's totally worth the investment in good equipment.

>>55944063
A car is a NEED, listening to music is a WANT. Besides dropping $5000 implies you crashed it into a tree and need a complete engine repair.

>>55944128
No, like $5000 is how much I bought it for.

If all you care about in a car is as a NEED, then no one would spend more than $2000 on a car. Because that will get you transportation. But you spend more than that because you want something nicer.

Also, are you saying we should all deprive ourselves of our wants and be ascetics?

>>55944128
How did you manage to miss his point?

You get the job done on a cheaper vehicle just fine but if you value the fact that you have a nice car to commute, you might be willing to spend more than 5k on a car. Car is not always a need, certainly not an expensive one.

>>55944128
Another example. You could spend $300 a month to rent a tiny room the size of a prison cell, or you could spend $800 to rent something more comfortable. That's $500 PER MONTH you spend on a luxury. Compared with that, a one-time $400 expense isn't really that much.

>>55944153
>>55944176
But we are talking about add-ons here. I assumed he had a car and wanted to drop 5k on upgrades. You are dropping 400+ on something that literally is not worth the money as an add-on for another thing you have that you don't need.

>>55936849
very nice underboop

>>55939318
Don't let anyone stop you from leaving this sucky thread.

>>55944245
>400+ on something that literally is not worth the money
You're begging the question. My argument is that it IS worth the money, to the right person. You're just saying "it's not worth the money because it's not worth the money." It's a useless argument.

>>55944283
Give me a situation where you MUST HAVE a pair of Sennheiser HD800s.

>>55944301
That is not the only possibly reason for something to be worth buying.

>Budget
Up to 80EU
>Location
Germany
>Source
My laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Comfort level
As much as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or Warm
>Past headphones
M20x

>>55944346
AKG K240 if you're willing to sacrifice some sound quality for comfort. It's more or less neutral in the midrange but with some missing upper treble, a big spike in the midbass, and lacking sub-bass.

>>55944301
Give me a situation where you MUST HAVE nice $300 shoes

Give me a situation where you MUST HAVE nice brand name clothes

Give me a situation where you MUST HAVE a nice car

Give me a situation where you MUST HAVE a very high end gayming PC

Stop asking stupid questions. Price is static from one to the next, but the value of a particular product (i.e an amp) can vary highly.

>>55944411
>Give me a situation where you MUST HAVE nice $300 shoes
CPs are trash desu

>Budget
Up to 90-100 yuros/ 100-110 dollarydoos
>Location
Serbia
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Not important, I just want them to have decent sound quality and BE DURABLE.
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care
>Past headphones
Usually shitty earbuds or cheap headsets, the best I had was Logitech H390 whose sound quality was enough for me, but they broke down very easily.

>>55944501
Consider the M30X or Gemini HSR-1000/Takstar Pro80.

>>55944530
>M30X
Do you have any experience with them? Specifically the cable, Is it durable? All of my headphones I fucked up It was because the cable got partially torn out from the headpiece due to heavy use by an autistic retard who can't keep his things safe.

>>55943854
They are not as bad as the HD600 shills who act as if their headphones are the best in the world.

>>55944557
I own both of the models I suggested.

The cable has been pretty durable on my M30x.

The cable on my Gemini failed within weeks actually, but it was super easy to do a detachable cable mod. Should have specified that in my post actually.

>>55944301
Give it up HD600 shill. Not everyone is on welfare like you do.

>>55944567
Alright familia, guess I'll be eyeing the M30x, thanks for the help.

>Budget
Under £100
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High, my ears are sensitive
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care
>Past headphones
Some creative fury gaymer one

I mainly want headphones that I can play my games on and doesn't look shit if I stream. I also listen to a lot of grime music but I don't think I would notice the difference between a £70 and a £500 one. What do you guys recommend?

>Budget
sub $250
>Location
USA
>Source
schiit modi combo
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
maximum (I wear them 8+ hours a day)
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral/bright with highs that don't make me want to shoot myself
>Past headphones
I've had a whole lot of sub 100$ ones that have broke on me, including the m50x

>>55944670
Consider MDR-V6 or MDR-7506. Slightly bright but mostly neutral. Good stock pads. Very light weight, so they're comfortable despite the relative lack of padding on the headband. Don't buy used or from a disreputable source, you'll just get a counterfeit one.

>>55944245
>that literally is not worth the money
That's a terrible argument as worth and value are subjective. People see those differently.

Why is it so hard to find decent desktop amps with a mic input? I have headphone with a mic attached to it. I don't want one cable to go to the amp and the other to the front case mic input. Putting it in the amp should also increase quality.
I found the Fio D5, soundblaster E5 and Chinese brands. What are my other options?

>>55944760
A good PCI-E sound card might serve the same purpose or do you need/want to have a discrete unit on your desk?

>>55944811
I would prefer something discrete on the desktop with easy volume control and to pull out the headphone when switching to speakers.
If the Fio D had a knob instead of those buttons I'd consider getting it.

>>55943450
>>55941747
Playing the devil's advocate here amplifiers can actually sound different. And when they do it happens in the bass range. Has to do with output impedance and some other shit. Problem here is it's really hard to measure, if you put your amp through a scope it will look amazing but driving headphones or speakers it could totally be doing a different thing.

http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
http://sound.westhost.com/impedanc.htm

For the record an O2 has 0.5ohm output impedance while a Magni has a 0.2ohm. I don't know if this actually makes any difference at all and the poster could be making shit up for all we know but it COULD sound different.

>>55944860
Maybe you should be looking for "audio interfaces" instead of "DACs." Try revising your product search accordingly.

Any decent speakers for 200 bucks or less? Looking for something that sounds good but doesn't break the bank. Not sure if headphones sound signature translates directly into speakers but I'd like something V-shaped or with a slightly punchy bass.

>>55936849
>-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --

why would anyone want to do that?

>>55945008
So you can get accurate recommendations. If you don't want to fill it get the Beats Studio by Dr Dre. Good all around headphones that should please everyone.

>>55945008
Headphones are a very subjective and personal experience. We can make suggestions without information but they won't be useful or accurate except by accident.

>>55944934
I googled "amp with mic input" since I also want to increase the volume of the headphones. I do find more with audio interfaces, thanks, but it seems to be geared at recording music and most have xlr mic input while I'm looking for 3.5mm and no amplification

>Budget
about $650AUD

>Location
Aus

>Source
PC with great mobo shielding

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear, closed isolation

>Comfort level
Wear for long periods, so decent padding is all that's needed

>Past headphones
Razer Tiamat 7.1, got them 4 years ago, have been great, but age is showing.

Halp plz, was looking at audio tec ATH-AG1X, but i'm sketchy.

>>55945166
If you want 650 kangaroo dollars headphones you'll need at least an amp, assuming the dac in your soundcard isn't absolute shit.
Either cough up more money or set some 150-200 aside for a good amp

>>55943558
You'd understand what these terms mean if you understood sound.

>>55943558
> Not good attack and speed

>>55945190
okay, say if i cough up 1000 dollar roos, which i can, what'd you recommend

>>55945039
>Headphones are a very subjective and personal experience.

This is something that is so obvious and yet the HD600 shill will never understand.

>>55939411
Interesting, and I'd love to try them but i've spent too much on this setup already and i'm very happy with it. It's surprising that you think the magni and modi are cleaner. I always assumed they were similar to the o2 but with added 'flavor' aka not as clean and neutral.

>>55945276
>This is something that is so obvious and yet the HD600 shill will never understand.

Well I own the hd600's and I love them because of how they sound. Not because of the price or a fucking graph. They have a 'lovely' sound and that's why they're my end game.

What now?

Does anyone know how the Sony MDR-CD900ST and 7506 differ?

Any opinions on beyerdynamic T1? Are they worth the price?

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>>55945618
Means you have low standards :^)

>>55945008
Otherwise we'll spend every thread asking questions one by one and arguing over pointless things when people just want to know some models which are worth looking into. People have varying budgets, use cases and overall criteria. If you don't specify what you want, it's near impossible for us to recommend something suitable for you. The template is just a streamlined way to make the purchase reqs and really the only way to make them work.

>>55945198
Bright is the only term out of those which actually has a very clear definition. "Crisp" and "open bass" mean nothing at all.

>>55945670
>. t 702 owner

>>55936849
>datamining in the OP
wow

>Budget
$300

>Source
Q1

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Open or semi-open

>Comfort level
no clamp complaints for 4-5 hours of straight wear

>Preferred tonal balance
as flat and neutral as shit gets

>Past headphones
ath ws55x
beyerdynamic mmx102 ie
some shitty kraken that i only use now for the mic

I've been looking into between the mdr cd900st and the k701 and i'm leaning on the cd900st because overall it's easier to drive for extension, as i don't have a good amp. it would be nice if you guys could suggest an amp for the $200 price range

Recommend me some beginners guides to sound system components and what they are used for.

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may be the wrong place to ask but i need an RCA in -> headphone large jack amp for my turntable
been googling for about 30m and i can't seem to phrase what i want
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XLR? 6.5mm Aux?

What are the best IEMs I can get in Aus for under $200? All the pricings here are wildly different to what reviews from the US etc go by which makes them pretty useless.

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>>55946689
Something like this?

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>>55946689
>may be the wrong place to ask but i need an RCA in -> headphone large jack amp for my turntable

Any decent stereo amplifier should have a large headphone out as well as a phono in.
Pic as example. Cambridge Azur 340A.

>>55946890
like that but instead of outie smalljacks, innie ones
but an amp is good, since volume control, all that jazz
>>55946914
neat, is there a "cheapest" one? not quite sure i wanna drop ~$300 on somethin like this just yet

Poorfag here so bear with me lads.

What's the cheapest notshit headphone amp out there? I need something to drive my shitty 40$ Pioneer M290 out of Focusrite Scarlett a bit louder.

>>55947145
hack together one yourself with some cheap components

does anyone here use their old stereo amp/receiver as a headphone amp?

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Anyone tried the Sony XBA-2?
A local store is selling them for 50 bucks with free 2 days shipping. I'm in the market for some discreet bassy earbuds I won't miss if they get lost or stolen and these seem to fit the bill and for 50 bucks.

>>55947145
fiio e10k lad

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I'm looking to get my first pair of over-the-ear headphones since I'll be moving into an apartment and flying a lot in the near future.

>Budget
Up to $175 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Directly plugged into laptop and phone for movies and music
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't really matter, but the more comfortable the better
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't really matter, just looking for the best value. If I had to pick I'd lean towards bass

Thanks lads.

>>55946832
just get marshall modes off ebay bra

The wires on the right can of my AUG K701s detached themselves from the solder the other day. It was extremely difficult to try and solder shit back on without burning the plastic on the casing. Shit looks like a mountain of solder, at least it won't be coming off any time soon.

>>55948170
I had to re-solder my 702 and I ended up burning some of the plastic. When it was all put back together you couldn't see the damage and I ended up getting good money for them on ebay lel

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is this statement true or false?

>>55948566
yes

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>>55944877

>>55946669
What kind of a sound system?

>>55944877
>I don't know if this actually makes any difference at all
Not on any single headphone load it doesn't.

>>55940240
I got one of the glued gibson models and it sounded fine, still has woox written on the inner side of the metal band but I doubt that means the drivers are woox.

The box it came with stated it X2/00 which is the gibson model.

>>55948566
>beats
lol no

>>55945166
I'd recommend not spending $650 on closed headphones.

Just get a pair of beyerdynamic dt250.

>>55946232
cd900st isn't open or semi open

Beyer dt880 & akg k240 are semi open

If you want good open go for hd650 or k712

> owning HD600 Headphones and a Sony Xperia XA Cellphone

I do normally listen to music at home via pc and external sound card, but now I need something for longer train rides.
How does a middle class cellphone compare to portable audio players and what kind of amplifier do I need ?

Budget: variable, but it should be reasonable to price/quality of the HD600 and not something overpriced for my setup

Country: Germany

>>55947759
Audio Technica ATH-M40x

>>55949490
Check out fiio, and see if you can find a retailer in germany.

If you don't tell us how much you want to spend, we can't recommend a model.

>>55949490
> Gomunist Caliphate of Cuckmany
> Taking expensive headphones outside
> Taking open headphones outside
> Taking expensive open headphones outside
> Buying a PMP for those expensive open headphones to take outside
Muhamed will be really happy with those headphones once he pries them off your dead hands. You're doing Allah's work, anonymous.

>>55949575
I've read bad reviews about Fiio stuff. The most common complaints I've read are headphones jack dying or channel imbalance. I don't know what to recommend, as I own a Fiio X3 I bought before reading these problems, but I don't think I'd recommend Fiio stuff now.
Their software seems pretty tacky and hastly put together. You had to do some bullshit workaround to use the X3/X5 as a DAC on PC including turning off enforced driver signature and now they came up with a dirty workaround that detects the player as speakers instead of an audio interface like it should.
Also, the battery indicator is broken and Fiio reps straight up recommended not trusting it and charging it once it reaches three bars as it becomes unreliable at that point. I've seen mine go from 3 bars to shutting down in half hour of playback with the screen off.

>>55949579

good point there

I would probably use my Akg Mk550 MkII Headphones outside, but I know how controversial these headphones are discussed here and I did want to get answers to my questions and not have somebody raving about these

and as a privileged white boy from the countryside I do not normally see any foreigners ...I kind to forget sometimes they are even here

Superlux HD 660
Y/N ?

>>55949665
any other recommendations ?

>>55949697
The K550 and K553 are well respected around here and are certainly some of the best closed backs you can get on their price range.
Just take those outside, assuming you don't mind looking like a retarded child with those giant earcups. I used my K550's outside for about half a year, worked great.
They're also designed to be used with portable players so your phone will drive them just fine.

>>55949575

my eyes to good music listening were opened some months ago and i am completely inexperienced about what is good for what price, and i don't want to spent an unreasonable amount of money on something i can't use or buy something cheap that my otherwise good equipment is ruined.
Something about 100-250 Euro I guess for each device if thats good ?

> last guy again with HD600 and the portable player question
> i do use Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD as a external sound card for my laptop - is this a good choice or should i get something better for the hd600 ?

>>55949665
Is it really so bad nowadays? I got the old X3 two or maybe three years back, serves me well. Installed a driver, DAC works, no hassle. New firmware is alright, no HW/SW issues so far.

>>55949552
>Audio Technica ATH-M40x

Perfect, thank you very much.

Greetings /hpg/,

I recall a couple of threads made regarding the extremely cheap Sony headphones that are also very good for the price, with people saying they were amazed of the quality for such a cheap price (around $15).

Does anyone know the exact model of these Sony headphones?

>>55949959
the hd600 is pretty easy to drive. Chances are your card is silent and good enough. If you can't tell you could always try the e10k from amazon and send it back if there is no difference. Amps are mostly a meme. The improvements are tiny, and expensive.

>>55938691
What does anything in my comment have to do with crazy bass head ? I've had 4 or 5 <50€ in ears and the KZ sound very nice in comparison. If the guy wants to spend as little as possible on cheap in ears he's got the coice between reputed brands. Or chink stuff. And these might be the nicest chink in ears you can get rn. Better than the xiaomi pistons.
Anyway, i had one of my teachers ( 20 years of experience in mixing mastering and recording ) try them out and i quote "they're fine... how much ? What ??"

>>55947586
No hot opinions on these things?

>>55938596
Aliexpress had a stock in europe so i got it from them in a couple days. Otherwise china shipping but they might not charge the shipping i dunno. Amazon doesnt have eu stocks as far as i remember. Look for KZ flagship store as reseller on ali.

>>55938596
Chzck that ur buying tje right one on ali. Theres the S and not S. I suggest the S because the rigid cable

>>55947586
Sony iem's are usually decent and bassy. That doesn't sound like a terrible idea with the free shipping.

>>55948708
Sure, but how does the 30 hz square wave differ?

I know this is headphone general, but I'm listening to a pair of JBL LSR305's right now and they sound amazing. Just wanted to report in.

>>55950631
If you can deduct it from that frequency response by merely eyeballing it, you shouldn't ever even look at the damn square waves.

>>55948708
What looks to be a 1db spike in the 150hz range is noticeable and might make the headphone sound muddy

>>55950664
Thank you, you made my day much better when I read your blog post.

Upvoated and posting to facebook right now.

>>55948708
>that super neutral response

I came in my pants. A simple peak filter in the sub-bass to make it flat up to 40Hz and it's perfect.

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>>55951715
What does this do for you?

>>55938143
diy can get your really good results, look up the Overnight Sensation

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>>55936849
>Wireless is frowned upon.

Wireless is the future. Quit buying wires while you can

>>55952144
Looks like Stax coloration.

>>55952332
Wireless has too many issues.

Got my new EP-630 today because the old ones broke

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>all this insignificant bickering over poor dynamic cans

laughing_whore.tiff

>>55952836
hello living breathing transducer type meme

nice laptop you have there. is that remote for your vhs/tv combo unit?

What does the 48v do on my dac? Should I leave it off or on? Does it give more power to my headphones?

>>55952144
Makes my dick really tiny desu pham.

>>55953047
You don't happen to own an audio interface with 48V phantom power? Don't touch it is my advice.

>>55953076
Alright, what does it do exactly?

>>55953118
Used to power condenser microphones in most cases. Just supplies high enough DC voltage for certain kinds of microphones to operate. If you don't have such a microphone, don't enable it. It's also only switchable to the microphone input and has no effect at all on other I/O such as the headphone jack.

Looking for input on CIEMs:

>Budget: $1000-2000, flexible
>Location: US
>Source: Computer, tablet, phone (I'll get a small DAC/amp for travel)
>Preferred type of headphone: CIEM
>Comfort level: Extremely important that they are comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance: Balanced, maybe a little bass heavy
>Past headphones: HD595, VSonic GR07

Isolation and comfort are as important as sound quality, so I think I want latex over acrylic shells. The Spiral Ears SE5 Ultimate seem like they might be a good fit, but I'm wary sending that much money to some Polish company I haven't heard of until very recently. There's also very little review material online about them.

I had also looked at the Noble K10 and the UltimateEars UE-18, but they're both acrylic shells. The Noble Katana seems interesting too, but the few reviews I've found have been mixed.

>>55953158
Thanks for the info man, I'm not using any mics right now I just wondered if it gave any juice to my cans.

>>55952288
Looked them up and saw the parts express kit. The cabinets don't have any bracing and the kit has no damping material. Is this thing really that good?

>>55952953
Has anyone heard electrostatic stuff in /g/? Why are they so rare here?

>>55953386
>Has anyone heard electrostatic stuff in /g/?
Yes.
>Why are they so rare here?
Availability, high pricing and they have their quirks.

>>55953386
>Has anyone heard electrostatic stuff in /g/?

Niche within a niche. Only true patricians own these.

>>55939335
Koss Porta Pros, actually really sweet headphones

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>>55936849
Hi /tpg/. I have a pair of XBA-H1s that I have grown to really appreciate. To my ears they sound identical to the ath-m50 and since I got them for $75 new that's pretty good.

My favorite headphone is the Dt990-250ohm. Is it possible to get the same sound out of IEMs? How much should I expect to spend, which ones should I buy? They just sound so much fuller and more pleasing than these sonys.

>>55953227
>I want latex over acrylic shells.

Latex shells harden over time. Why would anyone want this?

>>55953455
>>55939335
There is no reason to buy the Porta Pros when the Sporta Pros exist. The Porta Pros are currently $38 on Amazon. Sporta Pros are currently $19. They have the exact same driver so they'll sound the same, just different styling.

>>55953531
I personally like the look of the porta pros more, it looks classic and iconic

>>55936849
Hey guys, what's your opinion on the newest fleshlight from Nicole aniston?

>>55953511
Didn't know that, just thought they were much better than acrylic for isolation

How come Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation ?

>>55954542
They are two different processes that get roughly similar results. Many confuse the two when asking about one or the other.

>>55954542
Noise isolation is passive whereas noise cancellation is active and involves electronics.

>>55954542
Noise isolation is just soundproofing. Noise cancellation is where there's a microphone recording outside noise and it is played 180° out of phase through the headphones to actually cancel it.

>>55954560
>>55954608
Got it, thanks

>>55954617
Woah that's amazing.
Could you like, make a necklace with a microphone and a speaker that makes the person wearing mute?

>>55954652
It's never 100% effective. In theory you could make someone a lot quieter though.

>>55954652
No, it'd sound like they're puking up white noise.
That's why noise cancellation is garbage.

I got HD 598's off ebay for 250 canadian. good ?

I just ordered a pair of HD650s from Amazon for 300€. I've been thinking about getting a O2+odac. Would any of you recommend this setup or what amp should I get? I've been mostly using shitty headsets until now, with the exception of AKG k141 which I didnt like.

>>55954821
Should be fine. The Schiit Stack is cheaper though.

i was wondering if sennhesier hd 598 are a good purchase

i know 200 euros is a decent amount of money but i just want to get something good

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>for Apple
>for Android

The fuck? Do these not work with PCs?

>>55955345
It just means they have an inline control for adjusting volume and playback that only works on those devices.

The audio side is unaffected by whatever 3.5mm socket you plug them in to.

>>55955366
Ah, was worried the audio drivers/equalizing software wouldn't work.

Think I might get them then since they're on sale in that case.

What is a good SPDIF header card that I can put into my desktop?

Links to good music for testing open headphones?

I was thinking on getting some IEMs, shure se-215K but after reading some reviews im not sure, everyone says etymotic hf5 are better. I really like the fact that shure s have a detachable cable. Are hf5 really that better than shures? Is there any other option you recommend for $100?

>>55955603
MA750 but they don't have detachable cables either. Just better sound, build quality and warranty.

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Thinking about buying new headphones to replace my taped-together ones but I literally can't decide....

Was thinking about getting the Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 since they're on sale, but they're ugly......

Was also looking at the DT-250, the MSR7, the DT770 and the ATH-M50x but I can't fucking choose one.....

Really wish I just lived under a communist government so they could decide for me, or just outright kill me for being such a materialistic consumer whore......

>>55955857
It might be helpful if you filled out the form.

>>55955857
sennheiser

>>55955857
You can still kill yourself you gigantic faggot

>>55936849
>Budget
$200
>Location
Singapore
>Source
Mobile, mp3 player
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Good
>Preferred tonal balance
Decent base with good treble
>Past headphones
Shure SE215, Fischer audio Gryphon and apple buds

>>55955937
>IEM
>Decent base[sic] and good treble
MA750

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>>55955880
I don't follow your gay general thread rules, I'm not on reddit.....

>>55955889
Thanks......

>>55955899
I'm too much of a coward to try.....

>>55956019
My. Aren't you an edgy teenager? It isn't a rule, it is a suggestion.

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>>55956062
I'm actually 27 and my dad thinks I'm gay.....

Really just looking for headphone suggestions based on my personality if that's a thing.......

>>55956099
How are we supposed to know your personality? Based upon your choices in music, open/closed, on-ear/over-ear/IEM, etc? Like in the from?

Or are we supposed to read your mind, a complete stranger, over the internet?

w2c those big comfy headphones I wore in the computer lab in elementary school
What material were the earpads

>>55955857
>>55956019
>>55956099
So this is neo/g/

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>>55956127
Do I seriously need to explain everything to you.....?

Just give me a model number, it's not that complicated....

>>55956198
>>55956198
>>55956198
>>55956198
new thread
>>55956198
>>55956198
>>55956198
>>55956198
newthread

>>55956153
Kill yourself and get banned for avatar-fagging.

all these new fags don't know trevor richardson the janny killer lmao

>>55936849
NEW THREAD
>>55956226
>>55956226
>>55956226

>>55956208
>didn't put /hpg/ in the title
good job anon

>>55956298
>>55956298
>>55956298

Correct new thread.

Lets leave out all the cancerous shit in the OP and have a proper general.

>>55956208
>>55956242
Two retards make new thread before bump limit. One retard doesn't bother to check the catalog.

>>55956312
>>55956208
>>>/out/

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>>55956313
bump limit is 300 mong

>>55956388
Why the fuck is wireless frowned upon?

>>55956562
Go back to /v/ if you need to ask that

>>55956578
I'm not from /v/, i'm from /int/, but why tho, why do you hate it?