/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>55947581
Thank you for the non-degenerate edition, OP.

gun to your head

ubuntu or mint

>>55947733
I'd probably have to say Ubuntu. With some wrangling I can still get it to work the way I want. They might make some poor design decisions, especially in Unity, but at least they don't make big, important mistakes like serving their .iso over plain HTTP or getting hacked into serving malware.

>>55947752
how real is the spyware concerns with ubuntu though
is it just a meme or is it real

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu_Warty_visual_theme
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu_Warty_visual_theme/Image_archive
Thoughts?

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>>55947752
>at least they don't make big, important mistakes like serving their .iso over plain HTTP or getting hacked into serving malware.
They do serve their iso over http,though.

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>>55947768
Not speaking with a lot of confidence here, since I haven't used Ubuntu in 4 or 5 years.

I think there is a real concern if you use Unity, but it's nothing that they're shady/secretive about. All the searches you do in your main menu (which is the way you start applications in Unity) are sent to Amazon, so they can list product suggestions among your app results.

This can be removed through a simple apt-get command, or avoided entirely by not running Unity, which is a good idea for a whole host of other reasons.

>>55947825
Ubuntufags #btfo

>>55947733
spyware, shit politics, insecure

friendly advice: just get debian

>>55947825
Jesus fuck, forget what I said.

I swear I recalled them being less retarded.

>>55947733
>gun to your head
>ubuntu or mint
Pull trigger.

>>55947768
How is it possible that we get this question every single thread? Why does neo-/g/ just repeat everything without understanding it?
In the default DE of ubuntu there was a search function, this sent your queries to amazon. It was opt-out instead of opt-in.
This was not acceptable and was changed to be opt-in in 16.04. The trust in the community is broken. There is no valid reason to support canonical.
But as a new user there are certainly worse things than the non unity *buntus.

>>55947878
Pretty amazing how a company who prides themselves on their work with servers, could be this retarded.

>>55947878
Meanwhile on Debian:

>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/

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>>55947946
It's actually worse.
http://archive.is/twvb1

>>55947956
The Debian site works over https, and then just drops it when it comes to the actual download. They don't even distribute the checksums over https.

Fucking why?

>>55947904
I agree with you mostly. I've always been slightly torn on the opt-out issue though. I look at it this way, this is Linux and so much is expected to be configured by the user, so any common knowledge things such as this, should be a non-issue. Compare this to ssh on port 22 and you'll get where I'm coming from. It's the default port, but only a retard would leave it set for that port.

>>55947979
Instructions for downloading an iso-image?

>>55948006
Instructions where to find and how to verify checksums.
Read the article.

>>55947990
Because downloading should be done via torrent.

>>55948006
No, I believe they mean verifying the integrity of the download.

>>55947979
>As so often when it comes to security, Fedora takes the crown, doing everything right.
Not sure if shilling or usual bandwagon.

>>55948033
Their torrent files are also distributed over HTTP. It's harder to fake a torrent, I guess, but it's still an issue.

If they choose HTTP for iso download for performance reasons, they should at the very least provide the checksums and torrent over HTTPS.

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>>55947581

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Is there any package manager that solves versioning well?

I tried to install tribler on Debian Testing the other day (via .deb), which wouldn't work because python-wxgtk2.8 wasn't available (3.0 was). I could fix this by installing it from oldstable, but mixing releases is pretty bad for your system stability.

I'm looking more for a way to solve the greater problem here rather than installing tribler. With pip and virtualenv, I can get an older version of a library when a program needs it, and set it up so that only this program will use the old library.

Isn't there a system-wide package manager that does this, or is it just a bad idea reasons unknown to me?

I want to have a mobile operating system for my USB drive. Thinking about usind Debian stable for this purpose. Is the install process the same as installing it on my computer? Are there any pitfalls? Or should I use a live image instead. Sorry if stupid question.

I'm testing kubuntu on my laptop with a live usb.
the problem is that, even if I turn reverse scroll on, it will not work within the settings (it works on other apps like firefox)
How can I fix this? I can't find much related to this on google

>>55948410
Portage can work simultaneously with different versions pretty well. "Install Gentoo" is not just a meme, you know.

>>55948410
Have you tried: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/

>>55946777

Name some of the programs which were written with "GNOME in mind".

>>55948466
Does Gentoo provide binaries for packages that really take ass long to compile? I'd actually consider installing Gentoo, but hours long recompiling Firefox for every update...

>>55948410

>package python-wxgtk2.8 yourself
>package tibler yourself

Problem solved. This isn't a package manager problem. It's a packaging problem and software problem (if it can't use a newer library).

>>55948499
There are binaries for firefox and libreoffice, which are among the biggest packages that I use. Compiling DE and some graphical libraries would take some time, but not too much: even recompiling firefox is about 30 minutes on my system.

>>55948499
Also there's a full binary repository in Sabayon, that is, theoretically, compartible with portage. But Sabayon is unstable piece of shit and I advise against using it.

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>>55947581
So can I just keep my same ol' NTFS partition I was using in Windows in Linux? I don't mean for installation related things, just for things like a file storage. I'm dual booting, so I don't want it to have a permission freakout or whatever. I don't have the space (also read: patience) to give each OS it's own little storage partition when I'm going to be spending time in both anyways.

Are any of those $200 Chromebooks good for running Arch Linux on? I have an old Macbook now and whenever I've tried using Linux on it the battery life goes to shit, probably because of bad drivers.

>>55948577
Linux works with NTFS just fine, but you would need to stop using hibernation in Windows.

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>>55948577

>>55948545
>30 minutes
Unacceptable.

>>55948601

>sibling has to switch back to windows
>moving their files to windows from a backup
>getting weird errors, some file cannot be copied
>stumped why
>after some time realize it's because they had some files named "<3 this" or "what is this?"

>>55948627
I compile it from sources because I'm an autist. And what's the problem, anyway? You can shitpost while something is compiling just fine, it's a background process.

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>>55947581
Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

Training videos for GNU/Linux (torrents)
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Ported videogames (torrents)
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

We need a thread on /vg/ for gaymers because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers, here is the pasta
http://pastebin.com/7Xzi8e2H

>>55948478
breddy good https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/misc/2016-07__GNU_Guix_Demo_2.webm

>>55948529
By packaging you mean compiling from source and putting it into a package? That's feasible, but a lot of effort considering I'll need a ton of libraries that all need to be built in their own special way.

>>55948478
This... actually looks really, really good. I reckon I'll read up and take it for a spin.
Thanks Anon!

>>55948646
>And what's the problem, anyway?
Firefox updates weekly lately. That's 2 hours a month dedicated to maintaining a browser on my system. Unacceptable.

>>55947956
Meanwhile on Fedora:
>https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/24/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-24-1.2.iso

I'll show myself out.

>>55948684

>That's feasible, but a lot of effort considering I'll need a ton of libraries that all need to be built in their own special way.
No, you only need to build/package wxgtk2.8 and tribler yourself (assuming it can work with the newer versions of the other dependencies).

If you find creating 2 simple packages yourself hard, I seriously doubt you'll find using Guix easier.

Either that or wait for someone to create a Snap/Flatpack for tribler.

>>55948650
Stop shilling your stupid threads on /t/

>>55948696
>Firefox updates weekly
switch to ESR

Is stock Ubuntu a secure operating system?
Between the amazon issue and the knowing that the firewall isn't enabled by default, I'm a little uneasy. On top of that, they don't even include the graphical frontend for the firewall - what the fuck?

I need something stable, and secure. Should I go stock Ubuntu or Ubuntu with Gnome? I want compatibility as well. Please respond.

>>55949064
ubuntu is fine.
ufw is simple.
Are you sure you even need a firewall?

>>55948499
You can still get hours-long compile times, but then you're probably trying to compile on an arm architecture natively.

>>55949064
What do you need a firewall for?

>>55949078
To be honest I am a noob and don't know if I even need one - I am going to be traveling soon, that means connecting to public wifi.

I need a good OS that can last me for pretty much ever, and the only distro I have experience with is Ubuntu.
Time to install, thank the (you)

>>55949064

Funny to see someone coming from Windows complaining about privacy issues and a lack of specific program pre-installed.

Do you want there to be a distribution for every specific software combination out there? If you need Gufw you install it. If you need something else, you install it.

>stable and secure
Those are buzzwords and you don't even know what you want, except for parroting some buzzwords and then enjoying your ultra-vague placebo after going with the first best recommendation (if you install it at all, you could be a hit-and-run question asker).

>>55949138
Just install gufw if you need a gui but ufw itself is easy to use.

>>55949138
>Worrying about the security of Ubuntu
>Connecting to public wifis

>>55947733
ubuntu, since i'm using it right now :^)

>>55949182
What alternative is there?
Have you never left the country?

>>55948052
lots of pro-redhat bias in write ups, just a thing to be aware of.

>>55949247
I could tell you one but you wouldn't like it

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So I'm having a bit of problems installing a broadcom driver. I have an ASUS PCE-AC68. It uses the Broadcom chipset BCM4360. I'm in the process of installing debian, but I don't know if I should just do the install and give no attention to the network config until after I've set up Debian, or what. I'd prefer to just nip this in the butt now, since I have my laptop running arch I figured I could do anything I needed and just transfer what I need to there.

https://wiki.debian.org/wlh indicates I need the dkms package, but it seems I need to do the loading myself. Should I just go ahead and install debian without network settings, and then do this? Or is there a way I could jimmy rig this in order to work?

It's weird that the firmware it says it is missing seems to be realtek related.

>>55949364
just for the record, the firmware debian says is missing is rtl_nic/rt18168e-3.fw

>>55949364
>nip this in the butt
lel

You can do it afterwards, might be easier.

>>55949581
>tfw know it's bud but can't stop saying butt

Alright, that's what I'm doing.

And honestly it turns out my old wired connection still works at my parents so that just made me life 10 x easier.

>>55949274
I am genuinely interested, what would the alternative be?

Phone tethering? I cannot do that as in a foreign country I will have no service.

Does an arch Linux OpenRC iso exis, like Arch Bang.

>>55949695
>can't stop saying butt
Got butt on the brain, anon?

Anyone using LXQT?

>>55949695
I find debian a right pain in arse for firmware, none of the suggestions the wiki makes for installing during the install work for me.

>>55948484
I can think of evince and nautilus of the top of my head. It's annoying when they force their own UI on you rather than deferring to your DE theme.

>>55949699
Don't connect to the internet at all

>>55949742

Evince and Nautilus don't force their own "DE theme" on you. They're GTK programs, so they use the GTK theme you've set.

>>55949064
Everyone's being specifically bully towards you for no reason.

Short answer is i wouldn't expect there to be any back doors in Ubuntu so you're fine.

Longer answer - if you're super worried, don't use Ubuntu. Debian has all of the benefits of Ubuntu but it puts it on terms of the user. Of course that means you need to take some time to tweak it, but on a laptop drivers shouldn't be much of an issue. You'll just be adding repos you need, and configuring things as you see fit. (Sudo, for example).

If you're not comfortable with debian, don't think you're in some worthless place going with an ubuntu flavor. (Might I recommend Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE?) Ubuntu flavors are still plenty secure. And ubuntu is the only one with that real overarching problem of botnet.

If you really wanna dive into this shit, you start going more into the territory of Fedora, Arch, Gentoo, and next thing you know you are sucking Linus's cock in the backalley for freedoms.

I'm really memeing with that last part, but the point I'm illustrating here is that if you don't know the answer to some of these questions, you aren't ready for big boy OS's. Debian might be pushing it. So pick an ubuntu flavor, go with it, and you'll find it'll be fine.

As somebody who fucking hates doing things without a safety net, you learn a lot more by just jumping in than pissing about. (Hence why I went with arch on my x220)

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my conky

background yes
use_xft yes
xftfont Sans:size=7
xftalpha 1
update_interval 1
own_window_argb_visual true
own_window yes
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_type desktop,normal
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
double_buffer yes
minimum_size 200 200
alignment top_right
gap_y 25
no_buffers yes
cpu_avg_samples 2
TEXT


${font sans-serif:bold:size=7}TOP PROCESSES ${hr 1}
$font${top name 1}${alignr}${top mem 1} %${top  pid 1}
$font${top name 2}${alignr}${top mem 2} %${top  pid 2}
$font${top name 3}${alignr}${top mem 3} %${top  pid 3}
$font${top name 4}${alignr}${top mem 4} %${top  pid 4}
$font${top name 5}${alignr}${top mem 5} %${top  pid 5}
$font${top name 6}${alignr}${top mem 6} %${top  pid 6}
$font${top name 7}${alignr}${top mem 7} %${top  pid 7}
$font${top name 8}${alignr}${top mem 8} %${top  pid 8}
$font${top name 9}${alignr}${top mem 9} %${top  pid 9}

but when i run

 conky 

in the terminal, it throws an error

conky: Syntax error (/home/anon/.conkyrc:1: '=' expected near 'yes') while reading config file. 
conky: Assuming it's in old syntax and attempting conversion.
conky: Invalid value 'desktop,normal' for setting 'own_window_type'. Valid values are: 'normal', 'dock', 'panel', 'desktop', 'override'.
conky: desktop window (1200003) is subwindow of root window (4b8)
conky: window type - normal
conky: drawing to created window (0x3a00002)
conky: drawing to double buffer
conky: forked to background, pid is 4863

what do?

>>55949877
Your config appears to be in the wrong format. Did you download that config or create it yourself?

>>55949877
>Invalid value 'desktop,normal' for setting 'own_window_type'. Valid values are: 'normal', 'dock', 'panel', 'desktop', 'override'.

Can you read?

>>55949912
its a config from my old computer, that i use in my new computer
conky version of my old computer: 1.8.1

conky version of my new computer: 1.10.1

>>55949877
>what do?
Read.

>>55949714
I love the butts, my friend.

>>55949733
Well I'm sure I'll find out soon. Arch was pretty easy to install on my laptop, but I went with debian for stability reasons. Won't be much of a point though if I can't even get the drivers going eh?

>>55949945
>>55949936
my conky worked on my old computer without errors

>>55949877
Friendly suggestion: Just drop conky. Simple reason: You never look at your desktop.

Get a nice. minimal bar/panel instead.

>>55949941
Right, so the config format changed. Read the man page and fix it.

>>55948650
I'm actually down with this idea. If nobody else is going to, I will start it.

>>55949985
i do actually.

when i want to see what process is the computer is using the most , i look at conky

>>55950017
>>55950043

>>55948650
>year of the GNU/Linux desktop
Considering that GNU/Linux distributions don't track their users, who says that so called year didn't already happen years ago?

>>55949733
What are you having trouble with? Download the stable netinstall iso that comes with nonfree parts (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/), boot into it, and if it doesn't have the correct drivers, it'll give you the exact name for what you need. Google the name(s) and they should appear in here (https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages) somewhere. Put the corresponding .deb files in the root of a separate USB, plug that in during the netinstall, and it should automatically detect and use the firmware. Now you should have a functional display, wifi, keyboard, etc.

Admittedly it is a bit of extra work that you don't have to do in most other distros, but it's probably because Debian is very freedom-oriented and somewhat minimal.

>>55950141
I know what the procedure is, it doesn't work. The drivers I need are not included or not recognized in the non free installer and the USB method fails (nothing happens at all).

>>55950061
True; the studies determining market share are primarily done by website tracking (unreliable since a lot of GNU/Linux users spoof their agents, as well as Microsoft fuckery).

I can't remember where I read this, but a few years ago someone placed an estimate closer to about 10%.

What's the best Desktop Environment for Linux and why is it KDE?

>>55950356
Your bait is so boring, I've been falling asleep while posting.

> the process for baloosearch died unexpectedly

What does it mean by this?

>>55950490
baloosearch process crashed

>>55947979
>Arch, Instructions
>None

Nigga, every issue I have on Ubuntu the first result is always an Arch wiki tutorial on the subject.

>>55947979

>arch instructions none
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Getting_and_installing_Arch

>>55950665

He meant instructions on how to verify the downloaded installer.

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So what repos do I need in Debian for a truly complete Linux experience? It seems more focused on freedoms than arch does, so I'm missing things like Firefox. A quick search though doesn't really seem to contribute a decent and up to date list.

>>55950188
All I can think of is trying a different USB device or a different USB port for the firmware to be detected.

What files did you download, and are they in the root of the drive?

>>55950734
iceweasel=rebranded firefox
what exactly do you need?
it is usually a good idea to have deb-multimedia and the firefox aurora repo.

>>55950758
>aurora
What's wrong with nightly, pussy?

>>55950758
oh I thought iceweaslel wasn't in a standard repo because of shit. Okay that's fine then, thanks anon.

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>>55950785
compiling firefox probably takes longer than the usual release on nightly.

>>55950826
There are binaries.

>>55950860
where?

I want to switch over to Linux and completely ditch Windows. The only thing that's holding me back is I use Photoshop and Sony Vegas Pro fairly often, and I know neither of them have Linux support.

I heard of people using Wine for Photoshop CS5, but I also heard a lot of issues using pirated versions of it, and I don't plan on spending a couple hundred dollars for both software. Is there any news if either Vegas Pro or Photoshop will be coming to Linux, or are there alternatives for them (besides gimp)?

>>55950869
https://nightly.mozilla.org/

>>55950924
You can run photoshop in WINE, but GIMP is better anyway. No idea about Sony Vegas. Check WINEHQ if it works.

>>55950924
>(besides gimp)?
do you listen to /g/ memes a lot?
GIMP is to be used together with Krita and inkscape.
Blender and Cinelarra are good for video editing.

>>55950982
>.tar.gz
dude, why should i run binaries that are not even managed through my package manager? making this a .deb every time it changes is a huge pain in the butt.

I have Windows on a HDD and want to install Ubuntu on a different HDD.
I do NOT want the Ubuntu installation to touch the Windows drive at all, no dual boot crap.
I'll choose the boot drive manually.

Will the Ubuntu installer give me that option or should I disconnect the Windows drive?

>>55949846
>And ubuntu is the only one with that real overarching problem of botnet.

What kind of botnet problem are you talking about? That preinstalled Amazon link or something else?

>>55951144
Not sure if bait or just new.

>>55951036
You update firefox using firefox.
Place it in /opt/

>>55951175
I know about the Amazon search, which was later removed.
Anything else that I missed?

>>55951188
>self updating programs
nopenopenopenopenope

>>55951210
It's a trade-off. Either you get insecure convenience or secure inconvenience.

>>55951244
my package manager feels pretty comfortable to use desu. and it is way less shady than auto updating programs.

>>55951259
Then enjoy it and don't ask.

>>55948596
Been using a c720 for over a year now with crouton for everything but games, works great

>>55950734
>>55950758
>>55950810
It comes with Firefox, there was just some weird stuff where the Logo wasn't FOSS licensed (plus other small things) so Debian used a modified logo/name with those tiny changes, thus Iceweasel. However, Iceweasel is so similar to Firefox and Debian is so popular that Mozilla caved and decided "open-source" their logo and let Debian use the FF name.

So now Debian is transitioning from "Iceweasel" to "Firefox" and the change is entirely logo/name based.

And regarding packages unofficial Debian packages, you'll need to install Pipelight if you use Netflix.

>>55951210
lol wtf
>executes a program
>doesn't trust the update process of same program
How new are you to computers?

Something in my sound setup is complicating matters, splitting stereo sources into 5.1, how do I turn that off? Running "stock" arch sound on an x-fi card.

>>55951334
>nobody has ever compromised a program and put out a malicious update

>>55951334
you know one version of a program can be fine and without any mal/spyware and the other introduces something really shady. if a program is self-updating you are basically fucked.

>>55951363
Who was talking about self-updating? You hit the "Update" button.

>>55951339
>Running "stock" arch sound
That doesn't make much sense.
Explain your setup. Most likely pulseaudio is doing that though, which is not "stock".

question for C++ anons:
What IDE are you using?

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I went from Debian Stable with dated GNOME3 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma, and it feels really really good. I made the switch because Debian fucked itself (looping startup sequence) by going into sleep mode in the middle of dist-upgrading.

Anyway, just wanted to say that GNOME3 is more polished, but less intuitive and less configurable than KDE. Also I finally have thumbnails.

>>55951431
I didn't install PA directly myself, and I haven't really installed a bunch of shit.

>xorg
>nvidia drivers
>xfce4
>gnome
>infinality
>racercfg
>livestreamer
>mpv
>vlc (which doesn't work because no Qt)

My sound card was detected automatically on install and I didn't do any configuration manually. It's an X-Fi Titanium Pro Fatality edition, not that it really matters. It's a decent card.

>>55951433
vim, g++, make.
if I need more, I use codelite.

>>55951510
>>gnome
Well that is not "stock" arch is it?
Look in the pavcountrol if you have that, you should be able to set it up there. Or just check the arch wiki for pulseaudio.

>>55951625

Why did you single out GNOME as not being stock Arch and not Xfce4, Infinality, Nvidia drivers or Xorg?

>>55951510
>>vlc (which doesn't work because no Qt)
How did you manage to install vlc without the libraries it requires to run?

>>55951640
Because it was most likely the one that is pulling in pulseaudio, plus I saw that before I saw xfce4. The rest is irrelevant to the problem in question.

>>55951645
pacman -S vlc.

It runs in console, and works on some files when invoked from the file manager.

>>55951625
gnome and xfce are both officially supported by arch devs. I realize you aren't the arch devs. But when you install an officially supported package group I don't think calling it stock is all that big a stretch.

>>55951703
Stock is how it comes out of the box, any additional package installed and it's no longer stock (who even cares about this shit though?)

>>55951703
Something being supported is not equal to being stock. Unity is stock in ubuntu. Xfce is stock in xubuntu. Systemd and zsh are stock in arch.
Regardless of semantics, you telling up you installed stock arch doesn't tell us if you are using pulseaudio, alsa, jack or whatever else.

>>55951751
>>55951746
Fine, whatever. Can you help me or you just going to keep picking apart my word choice?

>>55951806
No one can help you as long as you keep your sound setup a secret.

>>55951806
You've been told twice what is causing the problem, and once where to find information to fix it.

>>55950056
>>55950017
>>55948650
Creating a thread on /vg/ is pointless. It will just die, slowly and painfully.
There is not enough gamers to talk about vidya. And this thread is not suited for that.
We already tried twice.

>>55951871
>You've been told twice that [PulseAudio] is causing the problem
That's like being told my engine is causing my car not to start.

>>55951833
Oh sure, here's my .asoundrc, fstab, shadow, SSN.

>>55951939
>That's like being told my engine is causing my car not to start.
No, it is telling you what is causing the problem. Pulseaudio is something you can use to configure your sound outputs and it can output to surround. You need to configure it. Look at the arch wiki for pulseaudio, it will tell you how to do this. You probably chose the wrong distro if you need spoonfeeding this much.

>>55951922
People who play games and want to talk about it would already do it in the threads for said games. A Gaming on Linux thread would just be tech support anyway.

Why didn't you tell me Openbox+tint2 was so comfy?

Can anyone help me? Let me tell you story.
> Windows 10 would always give me botd so I decided to install Debian.
> Installed debian mate (dual booted)
> boot in and see that my monitor is undetected and would always go to sleep
> I manage to sign in and then I try to detect monitor but it wouldn't.
> I am forced to use 1280x1024 instead of 1600x900
Can anyone please help me. I really do want debian instead of Fedora or Ubuntu.


>Inb4 install gentoo

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I'm losing my shit at this. How do I make my mouse not feel like garbage in KDE? It feels heavy as hell compared to Windows, and KDE has no ability to change it. I also seem to be missing the "Mouse deacceleration" setting in my xinput, and xset m - - doesn't help either.

Fuck me.

>>55952073
seems like you need some nonfree firmware because of your gpu.
but please post what xrandr says before installing firmware-linux-nonfree

>>55952078
Why not change sens?

Is it a bad idea to set a cron job to auto install updates?

>>55952094
How?

KDE doesn't have a sensitivity option anywhere in the mouse settings. It's retarded, I might as well just install Xfce at this point since nothing works properly on it.

>>55952108
Hmmm I didn't know that, that is weird.

>>55952087
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1400 x 1050
default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1400x1050 0.00
1280x1024 0.00*
1280x960 0.00
1152x864 60.00
1024x768 61.00
800x600 61.00

>>55952129
try adding contrib and nonfree to /etc/apt/sources.list
then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree

>>55952152
Dude I am a total noob, do I post to repository address for contrib and nonfree??

>>55952174
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
this is a text document, you just add "contrib nonfree" after "main"
https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

>>55952174
>>55952202
>nonfree
why

>>55952226
because it is a common issue with deblobbed kernels that not all resolutions are detected (or work even when forced)

>>55952226
because it just works

>>55952226
My intel wifi card isn't recognized without iwlwifi, which is a non-free contrib package that downloads the binary driver directly from intel's website.

>>55952242
Why not create a new resolution?
The xrandr manpage helps.
>>55952248
buy a mac

>>55952253
I see.

>>55952257
>>Why not create a new resolution?
>The xrandr manpage helps.
i know, and i tried to do that on the one machine i had issues with, but it still didn't work properly on the hardware.
maybe he can fix it with xrandr alone, but if he doesn't at least he knows what to try next.

I want to dualboot Ubuntu and I was wondering how much disk space I should set aside if I'm only going to use it to run mpv.

>>55952202
Well now my sudo password doesnt work, fuck debian.

>>55952335
are you from outside the US and used a special character in it?
or did you just not configure sudo?

>>55952312
Why would you bother to dual-boot just for that?

>>55952352
Because MPC lags like shit when playing muh 1080p 10bit cartoons

>>55952373
First, mpv exists for windows.
Second, mpv isn't faster than mpc (if you use the right settings in mpc, which you won't find on 4chan since everyone only goes for maximum quality)

>>55947603
>Thank you for the non-degenerate edition, OP.
Do you know Alan Turing? You should, because without him, there wouldn't be computers at all. Oh, and he way gay.

>>55952400
Nigger, I've tried MPC and mpv for Windows and they're both shit whereas mpv on Ubuntu played everything smoothly and with lower temperatures.

>>55952409
Kind of ironic how the tech industry is seen by many as a non-inclusive field, yet the first programmer was a woman (Ada Lovelace) and the first person to put her theoretical work to practice was gay.

>>55952409
Turing didn't even invent computers.

>>55952431
What kind of toaster do you have?

>>55952487
Nice strawman.

>>55952487
No one person invented the computer, we can't even get people to agree on the definition of a computer.

Point is that Turing was a very influential person in the development of computers and coined a lot of the theoretical concepts that we still use today, so it's kind of dumb hating on gay people on a board about computers.

>>55952508
The statement
>without him, there wouldn't be computers at all
is plain stupid

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>>55952516
So you're saying that you can't hate someone for some particular reason while also enjoying someting they created?

That's like saying you can't enjoy fanta if you dislike Nazis.

>>55952565
>hate
>>>/pol/ and never come back

Anyway, previous edition was stupid, OP broke the Stallman/Linus tradition. It doesn't matter if it was an homosexual couple or a straight couple picture. It was almost like that time when we had a /fglt/ and /flt/

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>>55952618
I'll be honest with you.

Getting offended by someone having a different view of the world and telling them to leave is not very tolerant of you.

But then again you're probably a beta nu-male, so reason is beyond you.

>>>/leddit/ and come back when you've grown up.

>>55952674
>Two men being friendly to each other
>Debian GNU/Linux in the background
Nothing wrong with that, pretty related.

>>55952108
You can set that in your xorg conf

>>55952674
the /flt/ was broken too, but that was fine

>>55952731
People who hate groups of other people for whatever reason belong to /pol/. It's that simple.

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>>55952759
So if you hate Nazis you belong on /pol/.

Seems legit.

You running Ubuntu or something?

>>55947581
I knew that in the past Mint > *Buntu, what's the consensus now for best distro for new nigs?

>>55952789
>So if you hate Nazis you belong on /pol/.
Exactly. Same stupid facism. You shouldn't hate at all, you should try to understand why issues exist instead.

how safe is it to use arch-anywhere or architect? is it possible that there is a hidden backdoor in the iso?

I'm using slackware and just trying out some of the WMs that come with the OS. Are they supposed to be treated like different profiles? I had some setting setup in one WM, but it was different in another.

>>55952832
Mint was never good.

>>55952837
Of course it is possible but the code should be somewhere for you to inspect if you want to. j

>>55952837
Well everyone can check the source code, so it would be stupid to infect programs with malware.

Just make sure to download whatever you install over a secure connection like https.

Never heard about arch-anywhere, but architect is the successor of Evo/Lution, didn't hear bad things about it.

>>55952846
Dumb question but is Unity good now?

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>>55952884

>>55952896
It was always good if you liked it.

>>55952905
>I don't like lesbian's
Fag detected

>>55952896
The spyware is still installed, but since the current version it's opt-in.

>>55952920
12 year old detected

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>>55952835
Hate is now also a set of social and economic policies designed to reinforce, both physically and metaphysically, the nation-state. Because hate is fascism.

Everything is relative and when something bad happens to you its okay because there must have been a reason for it.

>ISHYGDDT

Moral-relativist shills please get out.

Is it worth upgrading kubuntu to neon? Would the versions of kde be much different? Does Neon lock a certain version of kde for the LTS?

>>55952922
Yeah but it is a shit interface still?

>>55952972
I heard neon was buggy but I don't know anymore.

>>55952938
Nobody likes fags and never has, but I like lesbian's because they're cute and aren't degenerates plus anime, so they're the good homosexuals.

>>55953002
emotionally stunted and repressed 12 year old american detected
>>55953002
>never have
ftfy

>>55953002
/g/ loves traps since day 1

>>55947733
Mint is just Ubuntu with shitty sources.

>>55952789
>You running Ubuntu or something?
I run Ubuntu and Arch. What's wrong?

>>55953038
Projecting

>>55953117
Just shows how this board is infested with degenerates.

>>55950356
Because it has proper thumbnails

>>55953174
Does xfce have proper thumbnails yet?

>>55953264
no gtk DE has/will have thumbnails in file picker.

WONTFIX

>>55952955
>Hate is now also a set of social and economic policies designed to reinforce, both physically and metaphysically, the nation-state.
Where did you read about this? Looks interesting.

>>55952409
I just don't want to see that shit. I came here for Linux discussion, not politics. There's no need for anyone to push their political agendas in these threads, okay? The previous OP was obviously trying to stir up a response and he got one.Let's not derail anymore of these "friendly" threads.

>>55953287
How does my gtk-filepicker have thumbnails?

>>55953287
>>55953341
GTK3 has one, at least my FF has it. The file picker argument is stale pasta.

>>55953339
>There's no need for anyone to push their political agendas in these threads, okay?
<insert stallman pasta here>

>>55953341
Because it's gtk2, firefox is gtk3 and so are modern DEs
>>55953363
Screenshot

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>>55947581
So I just installed debian testing and it can't seem to see any drive I plug into my USB 3.0 ports. (As in it should be popping up as sdc (or just a new sdx) but nothing happens.

Am I missing something? Ideas?

Is JWM lighter than Openbox?

>>55953287
Well, I'm switching to KDE then. There are some KDE software I don't like, I can remove it later.

>>55953371
This. From the very birth of these threads there has been a certain political agenda being pushed on every one of us.

>>55953393
So Firefox will work with thumbnails even if I'm using xfce on Slackware?

does anyone here use gnome3 with another window manager?
I'm trying to use it with openbox but I'm failing terribly

>>55953448
Not sure what you mean

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>>55953314
Look into:
>Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery by Gottfried Feder

>Julius Evola

>Writings of Mussolini and Uncle Adolf

Go in with an open mind.
Fascism actually has nothing to do with race (that's its German counterpart, National Socialism).

You can learn a lot about economic and social systems that could benefit us. Alternatives to both capitalism and socialism (the third position, if you will).

Try to keep in mind the Nazis were the world's greatest nation, until the whole world teamed up to destroy them.

But enough on this topic, back to talking about linux.

>>55953473
I'm using xfce on Slackware, which I believe uses gtk2, would the thumbnails still work with a gtk3 software like Firefox?

>>55953507
If your version of firefox is deprecated and uses gtk2 the thumbnail patch may work. Not for long though

>>55952922
>>55952896
Help

>>55953507
Firefox 46 and up has GTK3 on by default.

QUICK!

ext4 or XFS

>>55953479
>back to talking about linux
Implying anyone here talks about linux.

>>55953558
NTFS

>>55953578
found the ubuntu user

>>55953479
Thanks. Will take a look at them.

>>55953401
lsblk, might have to fiddle with fstab to make it automount

>>55953479
>Unironically supporting fascism
This is an 18+ site

>>55953598
Shut up

>>55953618
>implying and projecting this hard

>>55953558
ext4. XFS is for external data storage

Which has better MTP and Android support, xfce or KDE?

>>55953755
KDE uses a different protocol (KDE connect) but both are fine. I never had any issues with KDE though

since when is /fglt/ about pol shit.

would rather have retards ask for help than retards talk about politics

>>55953917
This. Politics destroy what little focus there is in these threads.

>>55948577
If it's windows system partition and you intend to keep using windows then I wouldn't.
Vanilla storage partition ought to be ok.
I had a drive formatted as NTFS for many years and never had a problem yet USB sticks formatted as NTFS seem to throw 'uncleanly unmounted' errors all the time.

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>>55947581
In URXVT, how do I get the mouse wheel scrolling to work? I'm on Arch, if that matters. I have the vtwheel package installed from the AUR.

>>55954002
I don't know, but probable the arch wiki something on it.

>>55954002
It should work out of the box.

>>55953934
Stop just using fascist as a bad word and think about its actual definition if you want to have an actual discussion.

>>55953961
Ideology based on Nordicism, tailored to the people of Germany, and based on racialist philosophies designed to protect the vast majority of its population: Germanic peoples.

Its like you haven't even read the SS Manuals anon. I'm glad that you're into NatSoc, but its not all just shitposting, you have to do the reading at some point.

>>55954002
Worked out of the box for me.

>>55954031
yeah that was the first place I checked, but it doesn't say anything about how to actually enable it, just what packages to install.

>>55954043
It's won't. As far as I remember, (I did this before), you have to put something in the .Xresources file to enable the perl extension, but for the life of me I can't find it on google like I did last time.

>>55953975
Found the Hillary cuck.

>>55953617
Actually had nothing to do with automounts, legitimately just didn't see shit in lsblk.

Anyways, I had a hint of the problem and figured it out. I was using hardware IOUMMU to get my USB Mouse + KB working, and it was pretty pissed at that. Enabled soft iommu at a kernel level, and now all is well.

Cheers, anon. On to the next problem

>>55954076
>you have to put something in the .Xresources file
Add vtwheel to URxvt.perl-ext-common
if you don't have URxvt.perl-ext-common then just add

 URxvt.perl-ext-common: vtwheel

Damn, didn't know that there is something more annoying than Arch users but then /pol/ showed up.

>>55947733
I'll take the bullet.

>>55954151
Arch haters are actually more vocally annoying

>>55954139
Perfect. I couldn't find that anywhere for some reason, maybe I'm just drunk. Thanks anon

>>55954151
found the ubuntu user

>>55954084
Huh? I wouldn't vote for anyone in this years line up, you mongoloid. Not that that has any relevance to this thread.

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>>55954174
And everyone, including the Nazis, had a hearty chuckle and nodded in agreement.

Damn, I love you guys.

n-n-no homo

If /pol/ doesn't leave now, the next OP is gay related.

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>>55954205
Do it I dare you.

>>55948002
>>55948577
>>55948596
>>55948597
>>55950356
>>55950734
>>55950924
>>55951978
>>55953339
>>55953479
>>55953572
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>55954229
thank mr stalman

>>55954229
Did you get bullied in school or something? What's your deal?

>>55954229
>how to derail /pol/ vs fags into stallman vs linus

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>>55954279
RMS would propably win.

>>55954316
kek fucking perfect

>>55954229
/leftypol/ leave.

>>55954229
I know its copypasta but hold on a second here, hear me out guys.

When someone asks you which Linux distribution you use, and say you respond with "Arch", all of the important information there has been exchanged.

If GNU is ubiquitous, then we don't need to mention it when we talk.

You can just say you use Linux, because all the distros are LINUX distros, and therefore the GNU part is totally redundant.

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>>55954338
They don't have /leftypol/ on this site, anon.

>>55954350
MAGA

Glad to know there are others here that care about ((((OUR GREATEST ALLY)))).

>>55954229
>What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux,
Correction: BIOS/GNU/Linux

>>55954424
Correction: Electricity/Power Plant/Power Lines/Power Outlet/Cord/BIOS/GNU/Linux

Anyone got mozplugger with mpv running?

I'm a GUI baby installing Ubuntu

is there any reason to have full disk encryption if you keep your sensitive documents on a USB flash drive encrypted with LUKS?
I am in college, have essays and shit with my name on it.

Is there any downside to having full disk encryption on an SSD? I used to see posts asking about that all the time a few years ago but never bothered to read them or look into it as it didn't apply to me.

So I'm installing gentoo and need to install network manager because laptop. Yet when I run "emerge -s networkmanager" it lists 7 packages, OK great. Now when I run "emerge networkmanager" it explain I need to edit make.conf for certain use flags. So I go to gentoo wiki and search for nm package and see the use flags on the right side of the wiki page and enable the flags.

I now ran "emerge networkmanager" and it fucking is installing 70+ packages! Fuck! What went wrong?

>>55954659
literally no downside if you don't lose the password for it

winfag here, which distro looks like win10 the most? i'm tired of the botnet.

>>55954724
Out of the box? Linux Mint.

>>55954659
>>55954687
this
while it might not /seem/ to have any obvious upsides right now, you'll always be prepared if you need to store sensitive info

>>55954229
Boy I can't wait until you morbidly obese neck beards die of diabetes/heart disease/heart failure/ass cancer so this "GNU/Linux" meme can die with you.

FUCK. OFF.

>>55954732
but Mint is insecure

>>55954724
Zorin OS, trust me. Go to their Website and check it out.

However Windows and Linux are different OSes, don't expect them to work in the same way

>>55954750
Yes so I don't recommend it. Get Ubuntu cinnamon.

>>55954732
Please stop recommending Linux mint. It's awful.

>>55954747
>Being this ass blasted
Hail GNU/Linux

>>55954750
its either secure or stable

>>55954773
*MilkyWay/Earth/GNU/Linux

>>55954773
>>>/oven/

>>55954781
Tell that the people who downloaded the backdoor'd isos.

>>55954798
>>>/out/
>>55954792
GNU/Linux*

GNU/Linux/Thread/New: >>55954805

>>55954810
>>>/Gas Chambers/
GNU is Jewish trickery, Linux is for the white man.

>>55954810
>b-b-but its Gnu slash linuks! Doctor stallman said so!

>>55954840
Not really, I am actually using GNU/Linux

>>55954849
I'm imitating you haha

Debian testing vs Fedora vs Arch

I value stability, want new packages (not neccesrily bleeding edge), don't really care about learning about the system

>>55954989
The one I'm using

>>55954989
I've found arch to be more stable than Debian testing, but requires a little more setup. Can't comment on Fedora *tips*

Is funposting allowed?

>>55947581
how can I make my raspberry pi cd into a directory and run a command every 20 minutes?

>>55955118
Uh, what

>>55955136
how can I automatically make my raspberry pi cd into a directory then run a command every 20 minutes

>>55955150
Make a bash script.

>>55955161
how do I make the bash script run every 20 minutes

>>55955118
cronjob and bash scripting

>>55955208
I dont know much about bash scripting but I imagine you'd have to incorporate a system time variable

>>55955210
thanks

So lets say I ssh into server1, run a script then ctrl-c to exit the ssh the script stops running I found a bypass were if I disconnect from my internet I can close the ssh terminal without stopping the script but if I ssh into it again it cancels the script anyway to fix this?

>>55955249
screen/tmux.

>>55955058
Is it funposting or shitposting? and is it related to GNU/Linux?

I want to build a comp with a gtx 1070 and i7 6700k, how well does Linux mint play with Nvidia and how capable is wine with games like overwatch?

>>55954781
Security patches are a thing

I have a client who wants to either setup an Ubuntu server or Debian server. I lean heavily towards Debian since that's what I always have used, but is there any merit to using Ubuntu?

>>55955533
support probably, but they are pretty interchangeable.

newer packages on ubuntu stable than debian stable too.

Can anyone recommend me a font to use with i3? I'm missing a few characters with the default one I'm using right now but I have no idea what to go with

>>55956207
Font for what?

>>55956367
Everything I guess. I'm not too sure how it works but when browsing webpages and in terminal I often come across characters that can't be displayed and I'm assuming it's because of the font currently installed

>>55956437
termsyn for terminal. For everything else just install noto fonts and liberation fonts, should cover everything.

>>55956454
Thanks