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Copypasta:
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KDevelop is the best thing ever. Fucking love it
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>>55792006
How do I automount an external HDD without slowing down my boot time in Arch?
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Summer edition.
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>>55792033
install usbmount
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When I install linnicks on an SSD do I need to do any configuring to make sure the OS treats the SSD properly (like in terms of write behaviour etc) or is it ok to install and forget?
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>>55792033
why would that affect your boot time?
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>>55792044
>falling for the SSD meme
Enjoy your toasted storage
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>>55792041
no configuration or execution necessary?
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>>55792062
because it takes a few seconds for the drive to spin up and adding a line to fstab requires a timeout if the drive isn't plugged in
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>>55792090
Nope, that's what I use for my server. It makes a number of folders in /media and external drive will automatically be mounted in it
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>>55792106
it's an NTFS drive.
I probably need to add something to the config, right?
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I'm thinking about buying an Asus VivoBook E403SA as a secondary computer. How well does this laptop work with Linux? I Googled it and I didn't really get any solid answers.

Also, would Cinnamon be a sufficiently lightweight DE for this laptop?
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I've been running Debian on my Lenovo X1 Carbon for quite some time now, and I was thinking about switching it up for either Arch or Gentoo. Any recommendations or arguments for why I should use one over the other?

And if I were to use Arch, I don't think I'd be capable of installing it without a guide without fucking something up somehow. Are there any good guides out there?
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>>55792144
No, don't use a DE, get an asynchronous wm.
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Hey, I'm a retard and english is not my firts language so please excuse my questions and writing.

If I install a, let's say popular Linux distribution since I haven't chose yet (probably Ubuntu?) on a SSD with W10, will it automatically be a dual boot or do I need to do something?

Also, is there any distribution that's more user/compatibility friendly than Ubuntu?
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>>55792133
Not sure myself, I only used it with ext4
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So lets say I ssh'd into my server how do I copy a file from my pc to the server?
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>>55792133
If you hop between Windows and Linux often, windows does some closed source magic to drives it accesses and breaks it for Linux systems. Running a command called ntfsfix as sudo will fix this if you are having trouble accessing the drive

To automount it, you need to add it to fstab.

sudo myfavoritetexteditor /etc/fstab

Might take a minute to get it configured right, the wiki page can help a lot with that. It's pretty simple, you just add one line and some modifiers.
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>>55792156
Dual booting on a single drive is finicky and shitty. if you decide to go that route, be prepared to lose access to your windows partition. Best bet would be to just install it to another drive.
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>>55792146
Great idea. Both are highly configurable.
See this article for an honest explanation of the differences between gentoo and arch:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arch_compared_to_other_distributions

Obviously compiling from source gives you more configuration and control but is potentially more error prone.
I'm thinking of switching from Arch to Gentoo but not seriously considering it quite yet.
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>>55792171
Okay, I was just worried about waiting for the external to spin up during boot, but worst case is like 6 seconds and I can probably tolerate it. I rarely use the windows side of the dual boot, but it is there. It's been about 2 months since I booted into windows to play GTA5.
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>>55792203
and even then I don't use the external drive or write to it. just an internal hdd that I have massive game installations on. Probably should have made it ext4 but it's a little late.
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>>55792187
Hm ok. Yeah probably. Except I have a old motherboard and already filled all my spots for hard drives. I could maybe try to erase/transfer one somewhere and use it to install Linux.
But in this case, I only have one SSD, and Windows is already on it.

tl;dr : will installing Linux to a non-SSD hard drive be a big mistake, or will it still run ok?
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>>55792187
>>55792221
I have my windows shit on a seperate drive, but I've definitely done them on the same drive without problems, except for the annoyance of grub when I suddenly want to switch defaults. It just takes a few extra seconds to reset the default OS but I get really lazy. I've never lost an OS due to dual booting but I'm pretty cautious.
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>>55792221
Personally I wouldn't install an OS to a non SSD. If that meant I had to either forsake a data drive for another SSD or get a pcie sata hub so be it.

That's just me. To answer your question yeah no you'd probably be fine.
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>>55792170
Use your file manager
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looking for a nice C proyect /g/ (not a game or any school thing)
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>>55792221
Not a big difference at all, as long as it's 7200rpm.
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>>55792245
>>55792170
No, don't use a file manager.
scp is the file copying equivalent to ssh.
Secure shell -> secure copy.

scp [source file] [destination]
example:
scp ~/explicit_CP.file [email protected]:~/destination_dir
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>>55792248
Write a network multiplexer/demultiplexer or write your own find tool that crawls the filesystem. very fun.
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>>55792156
You need to install a bootloader as well. Most (all?) distribution's installers have an option to install a bootloader. The most popular bootloader boxed with common GNU/Linux distributions (including Ubuntu) is GRUB.
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Are there any downsides to using an installer like Architect for Arch Linux?
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>>55792271
>No, don't use a file manager.
Why not?
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>>55792305
The only downside is if you tell people on /g/ that you did, some elitists may insult you.
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>>55792305
Yes you've chosen a build-it-yourself distro and asked it to build-it-itself. it is inherently wrong and will not leave you in good shape to care for your system. How do you know if there is a separate boot or home partition? maybe thats part of the install, but you don't get the fun of playing with fstab and literally only ever installing the packages that you have asked to install.
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>>55792319
1) because you don't need to
2) He's ssh'ing into the server, why would it be viewable from the file manager?
3) file managers are a last resort
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>>55792305
just use antergos and change the os-release to arch like i do
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>>55792353
nice bloated DE (unless you switched post-install, which begs the question, why use antergos?)
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>>55792350
Because FMs are faster to use?
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>>55792378
Not really...
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>>55792378
faster for who? people who type 10 letters per minute?
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Best terminal irc client?
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>>55792399
they all suck
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>>55792399
irssi
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>>55792410
...best irc client..?
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>>55792389
Wanna bet? Enjoy pressing tabs every time you wanna choose a folder, retard
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>>55792421
...irssi
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>>55792399
The one I'm using
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>>55792433
>>55792413
Thanks
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>>55792432
enjoy reaching for your mouse every 2 seconds and aiming at a little box only to overshoot it and adjust and finally let go of the mouse button
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>>55792432
Do you... not use tab completion...?
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>>55792432
>dat GUI lifestyle
You can't win with these people
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>>55792446
takes less time to pick a file with an actual thumbnail

>>55792451
Read again
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>>55792462
>Doesn't use GUI
Go back to TTY now
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>>55792446
Do you have some kind of physical disorder?
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>>55792464
not when its ten folders deep and you have to waste 2*10*(double click time) every time you want to scp a file
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>>55792477
>physical
mental*
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>>55792475
nothing wrong with tty, that's half the fun of the arch install
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>>55792432
How is pressing tab at all an issue?
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>>55792432
um, what the fuck has gone wrong in these threads? ffs
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I was planning on migrating to ubuntu since I've never used a Linux before.

However, to program I have always used an IDE.

How do you guys program in Linux? Straight up in the terminal?
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>>55792477
keyboards are just better.
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>>55792487
>ten folders deep
And still has thumnails
>>55792501
I was here before /flt/ existed in the wiki, summer
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>>55792506
>How do you guys program in Linux? Straight up in the terminal?

vim or emacs

Don't ask for suggestions on which to use, just try them both and pick for yourself.
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>>55792506
I love me some vi/vim but it's not like there aren't IDEs in Linux. Eclipse still exists lol
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>>55792506
You can use Eclipse.
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>>55792521
Wise advice anon.
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>>55792506
there are ides for gnu/linux.

also vim/emacs and their various plugins.

>>55792515
holy keke
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>>55792530
XD topkek420 memezz
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>>55792515
Thanks anon I needed a good laugh.
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>>55792515
So your argument is that it takes more time to press tab than to visually locate the correct folder name in each directory and double click it? Not sure that this is true, sir.
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>>55792221
Me again.
Thanks for all the answers.

So what will happen if I install Linux on another hard drive? Will it automatically create a sort of dual boot screen and let me chose the OS, or do I imperatively need to install Grub like someone suggested?
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>>55792555
There is an option in your BIOS/Firmware settings to set drive precedence upon boot.
You'll still want grub on the drive you select as priority.
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>>55792545
I'm sure most every file manager has a field where you can type in the file path. Keep going on with your autistic fear of GUIs though. It's pretty entertaining.
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>>55792545
It takes less time than press tab and choose from 10 dirs each time. FMs have search hotkey. Also you can pick the file accurately with FM

>>55792544
XD Are you posting this on /r/4chan tonight?
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>>55792569
okay, so now you're using a file manager for what reason?
who's the real autist here.
If i'm working all day in the terminal, why would I want to open a file manager just to type a file path?
cuck
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>>55792581
>If i'm working all day in the terminal
post screenshot RIGHT NOW
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>>55792579
>It takes less time than press tab and choose from 10 dirs each time
Have you ever used tab completion before?

Hell have you ever used a shell before?

I'll have you know this conversation will be screenshotted and posted to 9gag and Facebook for our amusement.
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>>55792587
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>>55792596
NICE GUI, HYPOCRITE FAGGOT
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>>55792596
>welcome message
>ls

checks out
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>>55792608
The discussion is about file managers you tard, not OMG I CAN SEE IT WITH MY EYES.
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>>55792592
Yes, retard. If you're using GUI then Fuck off
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>>55792612
>>55792608
=) I'm on /g/. You think I'm doing work right now?
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>>55792633
>If you're using GUI then Fuck off

Did you just... forget which side of the argument you were on?

Jesus fuck this you win.
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>>55792625
>Uses GUI
>Refuses to use a file manager
A big rebel, aren't ya?
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>>55792644
I like this guy
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it's time to make /fglt/ great again!

GUIs for all, make a wall around the terminal
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>>55792649
What, so I'm supposed to not use any program that doesn't have a CLI? File managers are just unneccessary. That doesn't mean every program must have a CLI or be useless.
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>>55792644
Yes, I use GUI and the browser I am using is in GUI. You don't probably belong here
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>>55792667
>Don't use file managers
Apparently, yes
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Fact: 75% of you cucks are running Windows RIGHT NOW.
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Honestly GUI is just so I can watch videos and fuck with GUI-dependent slobs on /g/
but if that's wrong then I guess I'm the asshole
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>>55792678
okay, enjoy your clickity clicks
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>>55792698
>He hasn't gone back to TTY yet
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>>55792680
I'm running linux on servers and laptop then windows 7 on gayming pc, am I still a cuck?
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>>55792680
yup, was playing vidyas and too lazy to reboot into my loonix :^)
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>>55792680
I only run windows in a discrete VM
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>>55792683
mpv is framebuffer compatible

>>55792705
Absolutely. All the games from before gaming went to shit can be emulated easily now anyways or work in WINE.
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>>55792702
I use tty all the time.
Just not for main config. I have a girlfriend and she likes to use the WM hotkeys to open up firefox to check facegook.
>inb4 no gf cuz /g/
>outb4 fat gf cuz /g/
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>>55792680
of course, after all i am in love with the gui and scared of the tty
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After a bit of reading and seeing just how fucked Windows 10 is, I'm looking to move to Linux more than part time.I found that there is a native version of handbrake , makeMKV, and even fucking steam has a decent selection of games. I'm currently installing Metro:Last Light from my library. (didn't even know it was compatible).

Knowing this, the only game I would still go to windows for is Dark Souls and WoW. (Which I heard works in Wine?).

So basically I'm asking, how is overall performance in Linux?
>Inb4 2016, playing gaymes

I use my OS for everything.

specs for those who care.
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>>55792729
marry me
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>>55792724
>I use tty all the time.
>Except for this
>Except for that
>Except for now
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What's your guys take on Manjaro/Antergos as a beginner OS?
I want to give Arch a try since I'm falling for the "arch is best" meme, and hate my current OS of Ubuntu, though I'm not confident enough in myself to just install it the normal way.
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>>55792729
I thought it was the other way around?

This shitposting is too tough to keep track of. I should've used a CLI browser instead of bloated, convoluted Firefox...
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>>55792721
I have a few GUI applications that I like to generate config files and such. No shame in saving a few minutes when it really makes a difference, unlike file managers which waste time unless the user can't type fast enough.
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>>55792736
>Dark Souls
I play Dark Souls all the time in Wine; it works great.
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>>55792743
Instal antergos
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>>55792739
My real objection is to overusing the mouse, which is the genesis of this entire argument.
Nothing wrong with window managers which have no need to touch the mouse.
>inb4 vifm
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Face it, the only reason any of us have X installed is for a shitty bloated web browser to browse dank memes and rare pepes with.

>inb4 gayland shills
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>>55792791
but dat single binary shit
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>>55792596
people making fun of me for having a GUI when there is literally nothing to click on
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>>55792791
i wish gayland or mir were stable enough to use already fugg
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Can I swap the motherboard (from a C2Q to a Nehalem) out of a Linux system and expect it to sort itself out? Or do I need to reinstall from scratch?
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>>55792837
nope, X is well established. I still have my X11 programming manual from 92. Costs like $0.50 on amazon nowadays
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>>55792849
>motherboard
>reinstall
What? Firmware is firmware.
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>>55792861
BLOBS

BLOBS BLOBS BLOBS EVERYWHERE
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Is it safe to remove imagemagick from my computer? doing
apt remove -s imagemagick
tells me that these packages are autoremovable.

http://pastebin.com/DDJU2Rgx
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>>55792861
it's been a very long time since I had occasion to want to change a motherboard without reinstalling the operating system. Like, over ten years. I remember it severely fucking up Windows back then, and it makes logical sense that an OS would be screwed up in strange ways by that sort of thing. I didn't know if that's a general rule that's still the case.
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>>55792894
>I remember it severely fucking up Windows
lel
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>>55792894
unless you're changing disk drives/locations I don't see anything changing. The mobo firmware will be reset when the CMOS battery dies. So if you had a non-default priority set it would change but should still be fine if you leave it in.
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>>55792894
Windows gets fucked up because the installed drivers don't match the motherboard anymore. You wouldn't have that problem with Linux.
It still can fuck things up though, you probably have to fix your udev rules.
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>>55792924
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonvolatile_BIOS_memory#CMOS_battery
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at this point i'm pretty sure the "GNU/" linuxx meme is trolling like "arch is worth installing"
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>>55792849
>>55792861
>>55792894
>>55792924
>>55792934
I think I may have answered too quickly.
However, I think you'll still be alright, just check the BIOS/firmware settings before you boot into it.
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>>55792951
Try English next time
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>>55792951
it's "worth" it in that it only takes like 20 minutes and isn't really difficult on any level.
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>>55792951
Give me one valid non meme reason why Arch isn't worth installing.
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>>55792958
kk, great. thanks anons
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>>55792951
Open the beginners guide on your phone and follow it. Wow, so hard.
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>>55792736
With a 980ti, performance will be perfect.

I've personnaly never tried Wow under wine, but the winehq page seems to indicate that it runs very well.

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=32314
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>>55792736
WOW is having serious issues in Wine since the legion update. Just a warning.
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How do you know someone is running Arch/derivative of it?

Don't worry, they'll make sure you know.
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I'm currently trying to chose my first distro coming from Windows, and I can't decide between Mint and Elementary. People say Mint has more possibilities or something like that?
What exactly, and do I ever need to care as a normalfag user? (browsing, games, a bit of computer music maybe)
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>>55793048
meh

I mean I use arch and I don't constantly tell people.
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Hey everyone I've been on Windows all my life but have recently installed Slackware on virtualbox after following a tutorial. I just want to know if there's any beginners resources for me to work my way around the system? Btw, I'm planning to use it to code in starting with SICP+Scheme then moving on to assembly if that matters
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>>55793036
>>55793015
Honestly, I hate virtualizing and emulating. Wine has been disastrously bad in my experience, just trying to run firefox with flash for xfinity (FUCK COMCAST PIECES OF SHIT). Constantly crashing but not in consistent ways.
I still appreciate all the development they've done and it makes for a good argument against windows which I can appreciate. But I wouldn't count on it against a dual-boot. IDK I'd love to hear more opinions.
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>>55792985
>End up with Systemd/linux
>could have used fedora without worrying about an excessively retarded dedication to vanilla packages
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>>55793059
Don't do it, man. If you're leaning towards mint just go with ubuntu. It's not going to make a big difference and you'll have a better chance finding solutions. It's a fine beginner distro but at the same time it makes you wonder why you even bothered switching to Linux. Unity is such a resource hog.
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>>55793048
I only mention it if it's necessary. I recommend Fedora to most people, because it just works. Arch is a hobbyist distro.
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>>55793077
Running firefox under wine is a bad idea: Look into Pipelight instead.
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>>55793092
>Arch is a hobbyist distro.
I love this meme.
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>>55793101
FUCKING THANKYOU. Not sure if it'll work but anything is better because that shit crashes every time I try to do anything
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>>55793117
I use it daily and pretty much never have any problems with it, hope it will be the same for you.

(also, close firefox before doing pipelight --create-mozilla-plugins. I always forget to)
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>>55793101
This is why they call it a friendly linux thread.
Out of curiosity, why is firefox under wine a bad idea?
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>>55793112
Why is it a meme?
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>>55793059
>as a normalfag user?
Just use a normalfaq distro then.
Stick to the big ones, they have the advantage that issues you might encounter can be solved by googling it.

Mint is way bigger than Elementary, and it's pretty close to Ubuntu LTS so Ubuntu solutions might help, too.
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>>55793088
Thanks, I'll just do that then?
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>>55792044
>When I install linnicks on an SSD do I need to do any configuring to make sure the OS treats the SSD properly (like in terms of write behaviour etc) or is it ok to install and forget?
With current SSDs you can just install and forget but usually putting /swap and /home on your hdd is a good idea. You can do that during install.
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>>55792044
If you want trimming you should read up on it
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>>55793145
Simply because running multiple things under wine will bring up more problems than running only the needed extensions.

Also, Firefox under wine is noticably slower than the native version.

It's not really "bad", but there is no upside to it.
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>>55793266
It's not going perfectly.
>installed pipelight via yaourt
>enabled flash via pipelight-plugin script
>enabled silverlight similarly
>installed user agent switching extension with default config
>completely removed flashplugin via pacman -R flashplugin
>xfinity detects no flash plugin
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>>55793361
i know the aversion to google, but why not just use chromium and the pepper plugin? much safer way of using flash, at least safer than not using it at all.
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>>55793379
"No silverlight in chromium or chrome, so that will not work" according to askubuntu. Should I try that?
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>>55793361
before removing flashplugin I had the typical message of 11.2 is too old
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>>55793402
>>55793393
>>55793379
>>55793361
looks like nothing detects a flash plugin through firefox. shit maybe I'll restart a few things
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>>55793393
well if it is anything like my crap twc service, chromium with pepper just werks.

but then any of the other crap services i'm paying for that have online shit i have to boot up windows for.

so i dunno man, there isn't that much documentation from what i've glanced through.
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>>55792033

/etc/fstab
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>>55793446
>>55793414
>>55793402
>>55793393
>>55793379
>>55793361
>>55793138
Okay, after installing all plugins and user agent switcher, the original suggestion was the fix.
Ran pipelight-plugin --create-mozilla-plugins and they were detected.
This motherfucker is so nice and it's just easier to keep using firefox for me than switching to chromium.
At least, I've gotten past the flash plugin errors and I can hear the video playing, but there isn't any video. lol. I'll figure it out.
thanks guys
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hello i have installed `lm_sensors` and i want to run this
sensors | sed -n 's/Physical id 0:.*+\([0-9A-Z\.\°]*\).*(high.*$/\1/p'

every 1 second and have it write the output in my KDE taskbar next to the date or something

what do?
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>>55793530
idk, cron job?
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>>55793530
>>55793591
Put it in your rc.lua --- oh not for kde
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I've been using a Samsung SSD on Windows 7 and the Magician software allows me to add some over-provisioning. If I install Arch on this SSD, how do I set up over-provisioning? Or do I even need it on Linux?
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>>55793518
I fucking called the solution before the problem, nice.

Anyway, if you don't manage to make it work, try with Chromium. (Get flash from yaourt: chromium-pepper-flash)

and then run
chromium --app=https://xfinitytv.comcast.net
>>
>>55793602
Why did you need it on Windows?
>>
>>55793619
Yeah, you're pretty awesome.
Still got a blank rectangle and running --system-check shows a few missing libs but according to the pipelight faq none of the missing ones are essential.
shit.
>>
I heard you can emulate win10 through some shady shit on loonux without performance downgrade

What is needed?
>>
>>55793624

I was just advised that SSD's worked better and lasted longer if you enabled some over-provisioning space. Is it just a meme or is that true?
>>
>>55793629

Post
pipelight-plugin --list-enabled
?
>>
>>55793640
>some shady shit
what? are we in a cyberpunk world now?
>>
>>55793658
>pipelight-plugin --list-enabled
>silverlight5.0 (enabled it over 5.1 to try to fix that original error, but I'll try 5.1 again now)
>flash
>>
>>55793663
You bet we are

by shady shit I meant I have no clue what it was
>>
>>55793677
yeah same with 5.1
>>
>>55793691
gonna try installing all the missing libs:
libnetapi.so
libodbc.so
libv4l1.so.0
libva.so.1
libva-drm.so.1
libva-x11.so.1
libxslt.so.1
>>
>>55793691
Both are showing in about:plugins?
>>
What the fuck. Why is this thread on high speed now.
>>
>>55793715
Yup.
Both enabled and showing up in about:plugins, got two versions of shockwave flash now. One is the flashplugin from the official arch repo (v11.2), the other is v22 from pipelight.
>>
>>55793741
Well, I've got no ideas anymore. Google says to try a User Agent overrider but I doubt that's the problem.

Sorry I can't do better.
>>
>>55793760
already got one running.

[PIPELIGHT:LIN:flash] nppfunctions.c:413:NPP_New(): malformed argument 'PARAM' -> '(null)'
fixme:sync:SetWaitableTimerEx (0x108, 0x2a3e908, 0, (nil), (nil), (nil), 5) semi-stub
err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:flash] npnfunctions.c:393:NPN_GetValue(): STUB! ( variable=1100 )
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:flash] npnfunctions.c:393:NPN_GetValue(): STUB! ( variable=1100 )
err:winsock:WSAIoctl -> _WSAIO(IOC_WS2, 23) request failed with status 0x2733
err:winsock:WSAIoctl -> _WSAIO(IOC_WS2, 23) request failed with status 0x2733
fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer unsupported flags
fixme:wbemprox:client_security_SetBlanket 0x7b8487a0, 0x194de0, 10, 0, (null), 3, 3, (nil), 0x00000000
fixme:wbemprox:client_security_Release 0x7b8487a0
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winemp3.acm": libmpg123.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
fixme:quartz:VMR9WindowlessControl_SetAspectRatioMode (0x199ee8/0x199cd0)->(...) stub
fixme:quartz:VMR9WindowlessControl_SetAspectRatioMode (0x1aeed8/0x1aecc0)->(...) stub
fixme:dxva2:vaapi_videoservice_create Vaapi backend disabled via registry
fixme:dxva2:vaapi_videoservice_create Vaapi backend disabled via registry
fixme:dxva2:vaapi_videoservice_create Vaapi backend disabled via registry
[PIPELIGHT:WIN:flash] npnfunctions.c:393:NPN_GetValue(): STUB! ( variable=1100 )
fixme:dxva2:vaapi_videoservice_create Vaapi backend disabled via registry
fixme:dxva2:vaapi_videoservice_create Vaapi backend disabled via registry
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Why aren't you using Moebuntu?
>>
>>55793880
Because I am running RebeccaBlackOS
>>
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Reminder.
>>
>>55793640
2 GPUS
1 CPU with vt-d or equivalent
1 movo that supports it
8gb+ RAM
a PSU capable of powering it
qemu-kvm
Knowledge of what a passthrough is.
A brain capable of figuring the rest out by himself and using a search engine.
>>
>GNU
>>
>>55793933
Thanks for ironically telling me what qemu-kvm is

I came here just for this.
>>
I noticed Linux users like to torrent a lot of stuff, what kind of stuff do you like to torrent?
>>
>>55794003
new distro iso`s
>>
I'm installing Linux right now and mount points are confusing me.

Could somebody tell me the difference between var, usr, home, boot, boot/efi and /?
>>
>>55794017
I will assume you are windows refugee?
Think of / as your C: drive
now imagine that you could have c:/program fails and c:/faildos and c:/users etc as diffrent partitions

thats pretty much it
>>
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>>55794017
>>
>>55794017
Gladly.
These could all be placed on the same partition, so really, you don't need more than a root mountpoint (/).
/var typically used for logging, package cache, web server, etc.
/usr is home to the binaries you'll be executing (/usr/bin/ls for example)
/home contains user directories (/home/username/Documents, etc.)
/boot contains the linux kernel image so you'll definitely want to make sure that shit is mounted before you upgrade your kernel.
/boot/efi only matters if you boot from UEFI (which is typical in today's world) and contains the basically the same shit
root is the absolute topmost directory, and contains all of the above mentioned directories. I'm sure a simple google search could explain the linux filesystem better, but that's my experience.
>>
>>55794037
lol'd program fails
>>
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>>55793880
Because pink XP belongs ten years ago.
>>
>>55794046
>>55794043
>>55794037
Woah friendly helpful responses for my dumb questions. Thanks mates.

So say I have an SSD I want to install the OS on and some programmes I use regularly & an HDD for everything else. I'd mount boot and root on the SSD and home on the HDD and that'd be fine?
>>
>>55794099
You mount drives to directories, not the other way around. I have my HDD mounted in /media/HDD1 but your idea should work as well.
>>
>>55794099
sounds good to me, home directory is usually full of shit anyway. I personally just keep my video library and music on an external and create a symbolic link in the home directory to the external HDD, but yeah mounting home to a different drive is legitimate.
>>
>>55794099
yes, thats the most common setup
>>
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>>55794043
>>
Lately I have been looking into terminal multiplexers. I tried screen and temux just because they are mostly installed by default but I haven't made up my mind yet. What are you guy's experience with these two multiplexers?
>>
>>55794146
interesting that /bin gets its own column, for me /bin is just a symlink to /usr/bin
>>
>>55794043
>>55794146
>CP
god damn paedos
>>
>>55794151
screen is more common but I still don't use it.
I've been advised (every time someone mentions IRC) to use screen and honestly I've never even heard of temux.
>>
>>55794158
cp is also a command on windows and osx
>>
>>55794158
>CAT
>KILL
>DD
>DATA
>>
>>55794171
Sorry. Tmux
>>
>>55794176
yeah /bin's not a great place to store the other kind of CP anyway
>>
>>55794182
wasn't making fun of you, haven't used tmux either
>>
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HOLY FUCK FORGET IT I'M GOING BACK TO WINBLOWS
>Compiling 1279/3728
>each compilation takes 10-60 seconds
>Fuck this package
>please kill me I just want to watch cable
>>
>>55794217
arch is a meme
>>
>>55794217
I don't even remember why I'm installing this
>>
>>55794237
Honestly, every other package for the last 3 years has been reasonable. I don't know what I've done to deserve this suddenly.
>>
>>55794217
..............2300/3728
>>
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>>55794217
>>
>>55794266
to be fair it's an out-of-date lib32 package. I already had the 64 version which took 2 seconds to install via binary.
This is why you don't gentoo if anything.
>>
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>>55794146
>>55794043
>>55794037
>>
Thoughts on Funtoo?
I'm a complete noob, I've used Ubuntu based distros a lot, but never anything more hands on.
>>
>>55794318
install gentoo
>>
>>55794151
Both, but mostly use screen. Haven't really gone into changing the config file of either
>>
>>55794318
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arch_compared_to_other_distributions

don't do it.
Compiling from source is a bitch.
>>
>>55794318
Funtoo is nice, but it is a bit of work. You can also compile stuff custom in debian or fedora or anything really. Checkinstall is pretty cool.
>>
>>55794391
How does the funtoo install compare to arch?>>55794333
same for gentoo?
>>
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https://sourceforge.net/projects/uknow4kids/
>>
>>55794472
ok
>>
I need a linux program for testing my wifi password security. Also a guide for correct methodology or whatever I might require for efficiency. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>55794472
like any of us would ever impregnate a woman
>>
>>55794484
efficiency of what?
there are online tools for checking password strength.
John the ripper really only works with unshadowed /etc/passwd files.
not sure what you want exactly.
>>
>>55794486
how about said if woman has a son?
>>
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my dhcpcd-service takes 12 seconds while booting, making up the majority of boot time. How can I automatically start dhcpcd after login? so that I can start doing things while it loads?
>>
>>55794498
how about if we wanted to go do look more like?
not sure what this guy wants either
>>
>>55794506
systemctl disable dhcpcd.service
>won't start on boot
systemctl start dhcpcd.service
>starts it manually
>>
>>55794506
Arch is for advanced users only.
>>
>>55794496
I want to crack my neighbor's wifi and use it at my leisure. What are the linux tools I need and whatnot.
>>
>>55794521
not really, otherwise wtf is arch's newbie corner for?
>>
>>55794523
thought you were testing your own, isn't really friendly to go and lie like that.
>>
>>55794523
launch virtualbox and download a kali iso.
Comes preconfigured and ready to use burpsuite.
>>
>>55794523
p-please dont hack me ;_;
>>
>>55794518
I don't want to start it manually, I want to have it automatically started AFTER login.

>>55794521
thanks for nothing.
>>
>>55794537
>>55794523
aircrack-ng stock on kali
>>
>>55794599
add it to your xinitrc file. i.e. before you exec your wm/de.
>>
>>55794523
>unironically teaching summerfags how2hack
Jesus christ.
>>
>>55794536
>>55794585
Funny.
>>55794537
Could this work with virt manager/qemu or whatever?
>>55794604
Noted, thank you.
>>
>>55794613
ah, that would do, thanks!
>>
I want to install new OS on my laptop, i would like to be Arch but i don't really want to spend hours at setting shit up. Can you suggest me some os /g/?
>>
>>55794460
Completely different, arch is not as good for customization.
I'd rather use debian than arch desu, it's easier to diy it.
But go funtoo/gentoo if you really want to make it your own.
>>
>>55794661
arch takes ~30 minutes unless it's your first time and you really don't know what you're doing.
Ubuntu otherwise.
>>
>>55794726
I have never installed arch.
I had debian, ubuntu, fedora

I was thinking about manjaro or antergos?
>>
>>55794620
i just like answering questions.
good interview prep for security consult positions too.
>>
>>55794736
yeah but there's really no point in using antergos if you don't want to spend time configuring.
>takes a build-it-yourself OS
>wants it to build-it-itself
>>
>>55794620
>friendly linux general
Just hope you're not his neighbor
>>
>>55794755
>>friendly linux general
where?
>>
Best meme distro for ricing?
>>
>>55794813
arch
>>
>>55794813
windows + rainmeter.
definitely not arch.
>>
>>55794813
Logos, trisquel, debian and arch have good logos at least.
>>
>>55794825
despite what you've seen on /g/ most arch installs are restricted to a terminal and some hotkeys.
see >>55794217 and >>55793361
>>
>>55794813
arch + conky.
definitely not windows.
>>
>>55794825
>>55794840
>>55794856
>>55794857
nice meme

>>55794813
You can rice every distro the same way.
>>
Is debian good for laptop?
>>
>>55794857
post your desktop.
clock better end in 55-59
>>
>>55794873
Every distro is good for laptop.
>>
>>55794873
not unless you get rid of unity/DE and replace with low resource WM
>>
>>55794886
>debian
>unity
>>>/out/
>>
>>55794523
http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-like-pro-get-even-with-your-annoying-neighbor-by-bumping-them-off-their-wifi-network-undetected-0147206/
please stop asking security questions guys, we're trying to watch the new mr.robot episode
>>
>>5579488
I always use Xfce
>>
>>55794894
ubuntu is a debian-based distro and comes with unity.
what mistake did i make, good sir?
>>
Best distro ever?
>>
>>55794886
this >>55794899
>>
>>55794907
depends what you like.
I like arch.
no-lifers like gentoo/funtoo.
no-skillers like debian-based/UNITY YEAH FUCK YOU >>55794894 and everyone else uses windows.
>>
>>55794886
>debian
>unity

>implying gpu accelerated WM/DEs are bad for battery life
>>55794873
Yes if you use a recent kernel, only foss drivers (if it is not an intel igpu you are kind a fucked though) and one of the programs that includes configurations to increase battery life. (I think laptop mode tools or tcl are what everyone uses now but I am not sure)
>>
>>55794907
Parabola
>>
>>55794926
>battery life
>because CPU usage has no effect on battery life
okay CS major
>>
>>55794907
The one I'm using
>>
>>55794936
my nigga
>>
>>55794935
What are you even trying to imply?
>>
>>55794946
it's arch btw
>>
>>55794946
It's Debian by the way.
>>
>>55794948
I'm trying to imply that your shitty animated launcher doesn't help battery life.
But i wouldn't have to say that if you weren't majoring in python with a minor in visual basic.
>>
>>55794949
>>55794920
>>55794906
Fuck off shitposter
>>
>>55794965
nice retort.
>I win
>>
>>55794959
I never said or implied any of that. Stop being a non helpful and toxic retard, you people got the whole of /g/ already, no need to ruin this thread as well.
>>
Hi guys just got here.
How does one remove the shitty DE from shitty Debian-based distros? I'm new to Linux.
>>
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>>55794926
This is my laptop anon, only with dual core cpu
what do you think of this + debian+xfce
>>
>>55794907
Trisquel + Parabola
>>
>>55794988
install arch linux
>>
>>55794990
Xfce would run but it would not be optimal, I would go dwm personally but you may be more used to floating windows so openbox is probably more familiar. But if it is enough for you just go with xfce.
>>55794988
Sudo aptitude remove <metapackage of your DE>
Or if you used apt-get to install it
Sudo apt-get removed <same metapackage>
If you didn't configure sudo you need to su to be root and then run that without the sudo.
>>
>>55795010
It's perfect for newbies. We all started there. No shame in it, just isn't resource-friendly.
>>
Can anyone recommend a good screen sharing / video conferencing client?
>>
>>55795020
This is why nobody likes Arch users.
>using %s
>found your problem
or
>the solution to your problem is switching the distro

Fucking annoying.
>>
>>55795035
Search on prism-break.org for one. Jitsi seems to be popular right now.
>>
>>55795035
google hangouts, yakyak
used it for all my interviews.
>>
>>55795035
Tox, Jitsi
>>55795047
>>>/b/
>>
Just finished installing Antergos on my laptop.
Correct me if I'm wrong but this doesn't feel any different than just installing Arch the regular way + installing gnome 3.
>>
>>55795038
I like Arch users
They usually know what they're talking about.
Too bad I can't say that for all the debian fags who deleted their oem windows.
>>
>>55795055
No interviewers are going to leave google hangouts. Get real, butthurt faggot.
>>
>>55795081
Get like some pepes on facebook, normalfag.
>>
>>55795090
>get like some pepes
Good luck with that debian partition you got goin'
>>
>>55795066
>They usually know what they're talking about.
Your fist day at /fglt/?
>>
>>55795066
>arch users
>knowing what they are talking about
Only because a few do doesn't mean that the average of arch users knows anything more than copypasting commands from the wiki.
>>
>>55795066
>They usually know what they're talking about.
They have a huge wiki and they still make their way here for support
>>
>>55795102
>>55795100

I see you've met a lot of arch users.
Have you ever met one outside of /g/?
>>
>>55795109
No. Met a glock user once and it was exactly like /k/ said it would be. Can't be too far off.
>>
>>55795108
Maybe they know enough about their distro to have actual discussions instead of googling and typing in the first askubuntu solution they see?
>>
>>55795129
Did he hold it sideways?
>>
>>55795135
Please refer to>>55795135
>>
>>55795129
My mother had a glock. Does that make her a gangster?
Debian users getting so upset
>>
>>55795143
>please refer to your own post
lol what
>>
Moew thread >>55795168
>>
>>55795159
he's learning 4chan almost as fast as he learned ubuntu
>>
>>55795109
A few, also know a few from different ircs. Seems like slackware users, most debian users, gentoo/funtoo users and most fedora users are more knowledgeable. Than the average of acrch users from.my experience. I would say the same for openSUSE users but I never met one.
>>
>>55795207
>most debian users
>more knowledgeable
you're cute as shit, man.
>>
>>55795235
2 kawaii 2 die 2 sugoi 2 live
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