/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

16.04.1 release when??

my vpses are still on 14.04, and that's getting long in the tooth

also nth for ubungu

>>55502643
Celeron 700 mhz
64 mb ram
god knows how small hdd
What linux do i use, or is win 95 an option at this point

>>55502670
you could try a minimal installation of debian with tinyWM, but that thing is slow. you might as well buy some used chinkpad for 30 bucks.

I'll paste this from /sqt/

Using KDE I can't get my second monitor to work. It was fine since I installed Debian months ago, then it suddenly broke when I locked it one day.
Works fine on Xfce. xrandr shows the monitor as normal. dmesg gives
[drm:radeon_dvi_detect] *ERROR* HDMI-A-1: probed a monitor but no|invalid EDID

Why would unlocking my system have caused this? I had locked it previously and it was fine. I was sceptical about the linux breaking for no reason meme, and Debian had been very stable since I installed it until this point. I hadn't done much to rice my desktop but I don't really care, it looked great with KDE and it was quickly becoming my go-to OS for daily computing, with my Windows partition being mostly for games. I'm learning a lot and its actually pretty fun, this is the first major issue and I can't find a workable solution online so far. Wondering if this is an issue with the kernal, with KDE, my display drivers, or what.

>>55500502
>>55502487
please

>>55502664
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
> July 2016
> July 21st

>>55502670
win xp...
or just ask someone to give you his computer or something. seriously, people throw good-enough computers in the garbage.

>>55502708
danke anon.

guess just a few more days won't be the end of me.

better get ready to move them.

>>55502703
I answered here >>55501718

>unlocking my system
what do you mean?

>>55502643
Whatever happened to OLPC

>>55502708
I have another desktop with an i5 4590 and a thinkpad x220, I'm just doing this for shits and gigs

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After having funtoo on my T60 for countless months, I slapped debian on it, but it's horribly slow, atleast with gnome.
Screenfetch shows only 700mb of 3,5 gigs ram used, with firefox open.

My work laptop is an L530 with the same amount of ram ans it runs perfectly. So I'm left with cpu, HDD or gpu acceleration thats slowing shit down. Any guesses?

>>55502724
Oh I see. I just mean locking the screen, or the session, whatever. Equiv. of Windows + L.
I haven't tried the Xfce display management, though I doubt that would work.
Xrandr says the monitor is fine, detects its perfectly. The monitor displays everything perfectly on boot, and shows the login screen as usual, once I login though it turns black. I'm running Jessie, not sure of the exact version nor the kernel. As far as I can guess, its up to date (at least, I've run apt-get update, and upgrade)

Can someone give me a hand with X forwarding? I have a raspi I gotta use for a class but no monitor, so I'm running it headless on my Windows laptop. Which works and is cool, but I need to start doing graphical stuff for my next assignment. Little help?

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>>55502643
Missing a whole lotta fonts that a required for a few programs. How can i install them all.
Don't wanna install em one by one.

Using Fedora btw...

>>55502783
"To enable X11 forwarding on the server you need at least the xauth program.

Install xbase-clients on the server (or the package that contains xauth)

Connect to the server with SSH using the following command

ssh -X servername

Run the program"

>>55502740
why the fuck are you asking us, then? just try things, and hope you don't get bored after an hour waiting for the slow as fuck HDD.
btw, you can do some modding with the old machine... try overclocking the CPU (IIRC, those celeron weren't bad at OCing), also buy a CF card and connect it to the IDE port

>>55502777
>gnome
my guess: that's the problem, m8

>>55502782
just try things. try a different external monitor, another program to manage the displays, another kernel...

>>55502783
use SSH? ssh -X IIRC. google it.

>>55502740
>>55502261

>>55502829
I know gnome is quite shit, but it just werks to be honest member of my family

I'm guessing its the gpu acceleration though, as the animations are horrendously slow

>>55502819
>>55502829

Then what? Use Xming or whatever once I have forwarding enabled?

>>55502829
>why the fuck are you asking us, then?
To give me ideas WHILE I'm trying things.
This sort of shit gets me excited, and having more things to try prolongs that excitement, fampai

>>55502872
I don't remember very well, I did something like this some 10+ years ago... but IIRC, the next step is to simply run the app in the remote shell.
come on, man, it's not difficult at all to think or find info about this stuff. jus try it.

>>55502875
yeah, well, I gave you 2 ideas. another one is, check old forums for info on your cpu, might (or might not) give you some suprise

>>55502844
>animations
disable them, why are thy enabled in the first place?

>>55502643
What the hell is he typing on?!

>>55503534
some mech keyboard on a computer with only free software.

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I have a question and don't want to make a new thread, but ask /fgl/ because mostly decent and intelligent people.
I'm looking for a password manager wich I have no clue about it.
I'm using Android, Linux and Windows but I'd prefer an Android App, if it's available for Linux and Windows too would it be an extra point.

What I want: Encryption, cloud syncing and reliability and the possibility to save the passwords offline and encrypted and maybe a company server wich is not in the USA because NSA and shit.
What do you guys think? Is it even recommended to use a password manager?

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>>55502643
>>55503542
Jesus Christ Stallman

>>55503707
KeepassX for Linux and Windows, one of the compatible apps for Android.
The most important thing is the manager being free software, so that you don't have to port your database if the entity making it goes out of business and it can be forked if the original developers do something stupid.

What's wrong with GPGing a simple text file containing all your passwords?

>>55503765
I'd just like to interject...

ive finaly got Linux working as I want it to(ish).

However, I am pretty sure by doing this I have a lot of packages installed that I simply do not need.

I want to know what would be the best way of uninstalling these unnecessary packages, keeping in mind that I'm not sure which are being used in order for other packages to run.

thanks for the help

>>55503765
Read something about it and I think I'll try Keepass.
If a make a new database file, can I open the same with Linux, Windows and Android?
And is it recommendable to save the file in my Dropbox? Would be silly to copy the files every time I chance something.
Also: Is it true that a password with 4-5 words only in small letters is adequate?
If I think about I don't need to be NSA secure, just want to be safe for some hackers who wants to get in my email account/paypal and other important things. Is this enough? Shouldn't be too complicated.

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>>55503870
let me see

>>55503870
You can get a basic description about what a program does by typing, as example

whatis wget

, more informations you get by

man wget

If you think you don't need it, you can try to uninstall it. Your package manager should show/warn you about specific dependencies.

Protip: Don't break your system. Only remove a program when you're 100% sure about what it does and that you don't need it.

Alright, when I'm transferring shit from my phone via microSD, instead of instantly dismounting the microSD when it encounters a corrupted file like it used to, Dolphin locks up for 5 minutes until I kill it or it finally tells me that it can't read the file. Any way I can deal with this?

>>55503913
>Protip: Don't break your system. Only remove a program when you're 100% sure about what it does and that you don't need it.
and for god's sake read what your package manager is removing before accidentally uninstalling your whole DE

Im using bodhi Linux and I cant connect to the internet.

Their wiki says that there should be a icon on the "shelf" (taskbar) but there is not.

It did have the icon while I was on the live boot, however since having the OS fully installed, the option for internet connect seems to have disappeared.

Can anyone help?

>>55503870
You can list all the packages via your package manager and remove whatever ones you don't want, via whatever method your package manager supports. Not hard.

But why would you want to do this? I can see removing a desktop environment if you want a server, etc, but looking for things to remove just for the hell of it is not a productive activity.

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>>55502664
Works fines.

how do I make Cinnamon's panel icons reach the very bottom of the screen? As it is, if my mouse is on the bottom I can't actually click on window tiles and the menu

>>55503972
low package count meme

>>55503806
Nothing

>>55503972
>But why would you want to do this? I can see removing a desktop environment if you want a server, etc, but looking for things to remove just for the hell of it is not a productive activity.

I'm using an old laptop and space is a concern to me (250gb). I installed Linux Mint, which apparently comes with alot of unnecessary packages which I don't need.
+ I want to do it now rather than later because I can imagine myself getting alot of packages over time.

>>55503732
>HHKB mech
rms got great taste

>>55503951
You could try not using a FM

>>55504018
>Linux Mint
Jesus christ on the cross, why is everyone installing this crap.

>>55503913

>whatis whatis

Everything turned out better than I expected.

>>55504042
Have a random learning utility buddy.

rndwhatis()
{
    :() {
        whatis $(shuf -n 1 -e /bin/* /usr/bin/* /usr/local/bin/* \
                | sed 's/.*\///' \
            ) 2>/dev/null \
            || :
    }; :
}

>>55504018
Then install Debian. Linux Mint is literally Debian+packages, and you want to minimize packages, right?

>>55504027
I use random.org to make almost every single decision in my life. I would have much rather installed Debian, Arch or Ubuntu.

>>55504018

>has 250gb
>worried about packages taking up space

On my install with slightly less than 800 packages (Arch packaging, which means not much package splitting), only 6,1GB are taken up by files outside of my /home directories. The 100MB you'll free by doing that won't have any impact on your situation whatsoever.

>>55504063
I just realized that it looks like a fork bomb.

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>>55504127

>>55504127
>>55504153
Chill bro's. It isn't. : is a shortcut for the function that gets a random command for whatis. If there's no description, || : runs the function again - until it returns something with a description. : ; starts the function (once).

>>55504211
*; :

First time trying linux. Last versin of opensuse with gnome.
Default keyboards are shit. Is there any way to make a romaji input that will switch kana to kanji?

>>55504234
ibus-mozc or ibus-anthy. I use Anthy because I'm too retarded to make Mozc work.

Arch users:
Does your mandb also get a segmentation fault?

sudo mandb --quiet --no-purge
[sudo] password for user: 
Segmentation fault

Man-db version: 2.7.5-2

>>55504487

Never mind, it was a problem on my end. A reboot fixed it.

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I've been using my thinkpad as an alarm clock for almost a year now. I configured xfce4-timer to play an mp3 recording of an alarm clock. It does a good job of keeping me up because the only way to stop it is to unlock my PC by typing my password, opening the terminal, and typing in killall mpv. Unless I close it, but I have enough discipline not to do that.

Ever since KSysGuard stopped showing my CPU and network graphs, I've been using GNOME's system monitor. Is the rest of GNOME software this good?

>>55504713

>install gnome software
>see for yourself

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Could someone please help me figure out what the hell is wrong with my USB drives? Do I need to run some kind of disk check on them? fsck? Or something else? I've never needed to do this on a USB drive before, everything just werked

Now if I have my USB drive inserted at boot up, this crap happens

>>55504867
Looks like they don't get enough power

What's the difference between the Xorg log in

>~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
and
>/var/log/Xorg.0.log

?

According to the libinput settings, tap-to-drag is enabled. How do I use this? What does tap-to-drag do? I followed the explanation on the libinput page[0], but it's not working as mentioned on there. Where can I use tap-to-dragging?

[0]https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/tapping.html

Device:           SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
Kernel:           /dev/input/event6
Group:            6
Seat:             seat0, default
Size:             58.88x32.50mm
Capabilities:     pointer 
Tap-to-click:     disabled
Tap-and-drag:     enabled
Tap drag lock:    disabled
Left-handed:      disabled
Nat.scrolling:    disabled
Middle emulation: n/a
Calibration:      n/a
Scroll methods:   *two-finger edge 
Click methods:    none
Disable-w-typing: enabled
Accel profiles:   none

>>55504982
Do you know how to test for/fix errors in Linux?

>>55505119
Those errors should have nothing to do with your OS. What kind of fix are you expecting?

Yo hoes. I'm currently using arecord like this

arecord -c 2 -f cd -D pulse -t wav out.wav

to record audio, is there a way to record directly to opus?

>>55505168
I thought there was something wrong with the filesystem on the USB drives, like I used to get on windows if I took out the drive without safely removing

These errors never happened before, not sure what went wrong in my laptop

>>55505211
The USB device descriptor tells the host what kind of device it is. Your system wouldn't even try to access the filesystem before it would know from the descriptor that it's a mass storage device.

It's probably just not getting enough power to initialize itself. Do you use the external power that came with the drive?

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>>55505250
It's just a little flash drive like this one

>>55505338
Do the usual (Check device on different host, check other devices with same host)

>>55503896
>If a make a new database file, can I open the same with Linux, Windows and Android?
yes
>And is it recommendable to save the file in my Dropbox? Would be silly to copy the files every time I chance something.
yes
>Also: Is it true that a password with 4-5 words only in small letters is adequate?
if they're long enough.
>If I think about I don't need to be NSA secure, just want to be safe for some hackers who wants to get in my email account/paypal and other important things. Is this enough? Shouldn't be too complicated.
what? Just use KeePass.

>>55504761
help /g/uise

>>55505423
>what?
He's probably worrying about the needed strength for the master password.

>>55504867
>>55504982
>>55505168
>>55505250
So this was a strange "fix" but the drives don't do that funky shit at boot-up now

The problem was that I had a battery that had basically died years ago but I left it in the laptop because I didn't want it getting dust inside. I took the battery out and started it up and now it's fine.

>>55505191

arecord -fcd -twav | ffmpeg -i - -c:a libopus -b:a 112k out.opus

(-c2 is superfluous as -fcd sets channels to 2)

>>55505659
Probably prevented to give out enough power via USB.

>>55505723
Slight update, the battery removal was a placebo, the fucked-up drive wasn't even in the laptop whne I tried, the working USB drive was and I mixed them up.

Different fix worked this time though, I tried a different USB port (one that is an E-SATA hybrid port) and it looks okay now.

I think I need a new laptop tbvh. Had this one since 2012 and I think its time is up.

>>55505760
You didn't even try a different port before posting?

>>55505776
I did but even that other one was broken.

I had it connected via an Expresscard USB adapter, but it seems that is broken along with a different port

>>55505688
ty

>>55505776
Maybe a stupid question but could overheating/dust buildup cause this error? Its unusually hot here right now

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>page 9

>>55506705

>page 9
>p 9
>plan-9

It's a conspiracy.

>>55504077

This sounds like a horrible idea.

Installing debian. Which DE?

>>55507406
xfce, GNOME, and KDE are all decent.
I like xfce, but it's a little behind.

None, they're all bloated crap. Install Openbox. It's both, beginner friendly and 1337.

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>>55507406
If you want thumbnails in your filepicker install KDE.

>>55507485
anyone confirm this? no need to fall for any memes

>>55507521
I don't even know what to do with the patch that gets posted often. I guess I'll have to memorize more than 50000 image filenames so I can get the image I want to post.

>>55507580
A new mission for our infographic tripfag.
Go, go, go!

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>>55507485
>not just using your file manager to pick and drop THE MEMES
cmon son

>>55507619
>he needs to keep his file manager open 24/7 for the sole purpose of dropping memes

>>55507619
This is triggering my autism. I don't like file managers and drag/drop management in general. I feel more secure with running a command than feeling the burning panic inside my body thinking about moments when I accidently release the mouse button and some file disappears in the nirvana of my archives.
Nope, nope, nope.

What's the difference between stable and development in the architect linux installer

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How to disable the middle click copy paste?

>>55507977
Install Windows.

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>>55508180

>>55502777
install gentoo

>>55507970
Bumb

How the hell can I rename a directory in cli?

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How does /fglt/ feel about Canonical porting Ubuntu to Windows 10? Can we finally stop recommending Ubuntu?

Why does my Ergo Genius mouse appear twice in the Xorg log? Does it get "initialized" twice? Can someone make any sense out of this?

http://pastebin.com/X8jriAjQ

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>>55508339
mv "dir" "dir_new"
also: man mv

>>55508339

If you can't solve a simple "problem" like that by searching online then you should just end your miserable, helpless life.

>>55507970
>>55508326
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_maintenance#Use_proven_software_packages
"[...] development packages which are built directly from upstream sources [...]"

>>55508424
This is a friendly thread.

>>55502777
Gnome is probably your problem. Try a more lightweight DM or WM, and see if it's still slow.

It might not completely solve the problem, but I guarantee gnome is contributing.

>>55505465
there was something on the wiki iirc
depends on your partitioning but most likely no

>set-x11-keymap LAYOUT [MODEL [VARIANT [OPTIONS]]]

How would I specify the OPTIONS value without preceeding it with a MODEL or VARIANT? I encounter situations like these often and never have an idea how to solve it.

>>55508489

nvm fixed it ;)
I just used "" to signify an empty/unused option. This is most likely only localectl specific behaviour.

>>55507580
You could just drag images from your file manager to your browser. What's the problem with that?

>>55508400
I stopped right when the amazon thing happened. Step it up.

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Yo when I plug my Kubuntu laptop into my TV using an HDMI cable I can get video but no sound.

I've used the top solution on the forums to no avail, I wonder if any of you guys can offer tips to rectify this problem?

Thanks in advance

How many files does it take to get an X server running in my initramfs? Would wayland be better for this?

>>55508676
>>>/a/

>>55508676
did you already tried to install pavucontrol and check your hdmi as the main output?.

>>55508424
> Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

You dropped your :)

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>>55508704
Hahaha great post, well baconed my fellow narwhal

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>>55508734
see >>55508704

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>>55508726
Did I set it right? Because I'm still only getting audio output from my laptop and not the TV

>>55508726
Nvm, I got it figured out after fiddling with some other setting under Pulse

Thanks!

Can I disable the double-tap gesture (opens up the right-click menu) on Xubuntu without disabling the single-tap gesture (left-clicks)? The first one is useless and annoying but the second one is nice to have sometimes.

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>>55508826
yes, HDMI is now the default
however, existing clients (programs that are connected to pulseaudio, aka, things that are playing sound) might still be on whatever they were when they started
go to the playback tab and notice the button on the right, click that to change what device it should output to

How do I add a character to a string for each iteration in a loop? Basically lile

First iteration:
+test
Second iteration:
++test
Third iteration:
+++test

>>55509532
what language? This is really a /sqt/ question >>>55507873

>>55509559
Fug, bash.

>>55507521
can confirm, kde has thumbnails in filepicker and overall is goat

>>55509532
for i in {0..10}; do lel="$lel+"; echo "$lel"; done

+
++
+++
++++
+++++
++++++
+++++++
++++++++
+++++++++
++++++++++
+++++++++++

>>55507521
So does XFCE btw

>>55509665
Thanks, I found a different approach, which works just as fine.

#!/bin/bash
len=1
ch='#'
for pc in $(seq 1 100); do
    printf '%*steststring\r' "$len"
    sleep 0.5
    let len=len+1
done

>>55509771
Better, indeed.

>>55509771
Are you making a progress bar?

>>55508400
The only people who actually recommend Ubuntu/Mint are people who haven't tried Debian or Fedora.

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>>55509904
>mfw I chose Debian as first distro
>mfw I didn't pick a DE
>mfw all I had was a little terminal
Phew, good thing it was on a VM. I would have lost my shit. Regardless, I fucked to Ubuntu for a week and went back to Debian, super comfy.

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>>55509837
No I want to make my terminal as ridiculus as possible so right now I'm planning to make some kind of newstracker.

It's something I do to get a little bit more comfortable with bash/awk and sed. Right now I have only webm related going on.

>>55509961
Dropping related pasta. Good luck!

> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/

I'm trying to get an android tethering program called EasyTether working on a debian 8 minimal net install. I think the problem is that I'm missing a package that would enable "TUN" or "TAP" networking support. Does anyone know what I should try installing over chroot to enable that?

I have it working on the Mint 17.3 install I'm posting from on the same machine but when comparing all the network config files and network interfaces I don't see any significant differences between the installs. The error easytether is giving is that it can't find the easytether-tap interface. I guess the install was quite a bit more "minimal" than I expected.

>>55509961
i would never use this but it kinda looks neat, have fun.

>>55510006
Thanks for the awesome links. I highly recommend The Linux Command Line for anyone who isn't very familiar with Linux and using a terminal in general.

>>55510042
Yeah it won't be really useful or anything, just having a little bit of fun.

Just installed Ubuntu on my X201, I fiddled with Ubuntu and Debian circa 2011 but it didn't work well with my hardware so I sacked it off as a bad job. Gave it a go today and holy cow

>Almost all programs I wanted pre-installed.
>Easy as fuck to remove and replace the ones I didn't want.
>FDE offered during setup and easy as piss to setup anyway
>runs cooler, quieter.

I'm genuinely enjoying the experience. I even saw it had a remote desktop thing compatible with RDP so that'll come in handy too.

Just a single question, I've tried to install last.fm, it apparently used to be in the repos but apt-get install lastfm-scrobbler doesn't work now, and when I grab it off the website it gives me a .tar.bz2 file which I have no idea what to work with. It looks like just a standard compressed file (.zip .rar etc), but looking inside I wasn't sure how to install with it. Theres some notes in a readme but its like "I think this is what you should do because I'm currently using a mac" and I'm thinking what in the fuck.

How do I work with this? I'm enjoying the experience and I'm definitely sticking with it because it's super compatible with my hardware and runs better than Windows 7 and 10, but I have no idea how to work with this file, and I fear that I may run into more installations than use this type I'm not familiar with in the future.

>>55510205
Can't you just scrobble from the your music player directly? Most offer that feature, don't think you'd need a client for scobbling.

But if you want to do what you're trying to do there should be a readme with instructions, usually extract, cd in to it, make && sudo make install. That doesn't account for dependencies though. Basically you need to do a bit of digging and research. Make should give you some errors if there's stuff missing.

>>55510258
Which players offer that? I'll just sack off the scrobbler and use a player since I'm not very picky lol.

Gonna go see which players have it built in!

>>55510294
Most do as far as I remember, clementine definitely does.

hey senpai-tachi.
Is there a free firewall solution which allows me to accept/deny outgoing connections in real time (something like little snitch)? Or maybe as a standalone device?

>>55510205
>>55510258

HOT DAMN

JUST FOUND IT IN RHYTHMBOX, WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.

Going forward I expect to be able to kill off a few of the servers I have in my house in favour of a single Linux box (Shit doesn't work together so lol, 3 Windows boxes)

Thanks a bunch!

>>55510294
most should have that, i saw something like it in DeaDBeeF and cmus at least.

How long does it take to install gentoo with WM, browser and everything complete? A weekend?

>>55510327
iptables

>>55510774
Yeah a weekend if you don't know what you're doing. Depends on your hardware really though. Funtoo would be quicker for the initial install.

>>55510853
Is there a GUI which lets me create rules on the fly (I get notified of connection attempts an can approve/block on a case by case base)?

>>55510327
ufw

Quick pseudo-survey:

What's the appeal in using

>Fedora/rpm-based distros vs other ones?
>Debian/deb-based distros vs other ones?
>Arch or arch based distros vs other ones?
>Gentoo or gentoo spin offs vs other ones?

Feel free to only answer for the ones you have experience on

Name advantages you found in them compared to other distros, and flaws also if you wish

>>55510929
gufw

Instead of clicking on the desktop how would I go about opening my GUI package manager from terminal?

>>55510966
type its name into the terminal
for example, synaptic

>>55510937
pacman

>>55510966

Literally type its name.

>>55510966

[package manager name] &

The '&' sends the process to the background so you can keep using the terminal

>>55510937
IMHO different distros for different needs/users. There is no best solution. A guy who wants a ultra stable system wouldn't be happy with Arch and a guy who wants a easy out-of-the-box distro wouldn't enjoy Gentoo.

>>55508400
this again...
canonical didn't do shit. source: some canonical guy talking about the windows/bash thing in some video.

also, IMO, bash on windows will probably attract more people to linux than the other way around.

STOP spreading bullshit, you fucking retards

>>55510937
I use arch because it was fun to install it, and there's zero bloat

I just got hearthstone working, I think I'm ready to wipe windows from the face of my hard drive.

>>55510946
just tried it. It doesn't seem to allow "on connection" creation of filter rules. Is there really no solution for this outside of the windows or OSX?

>>55511024
Fuck off shill. This bullshit only creates faggots creating threads like "if windows 10 can run linux apps, is there any reason to use linux?". It only hurts the community. But why would Canonical care? Did they ever care about the users before? Think about the Amazon lens, think about how they lied in the "Software Center", tagging proprietary software as free.

This whole company is only thinking of themselves.

>>55511024
>canonical didn't do shit
Yeah, I mean, like, wew, I guess GNU brought bash to Windows 10, right?

>>55511008
>arch isnt stable
Nice meme

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A couple weird problems with kdenlive

top image - on the timeline, the arrow and bar get separate sometimes when seeking through a clip. it's weird.

bottom image - on hover tooltips, the font is pretty much unreadable

not pictured - the UI / panel layout doesn't save, so when restarting the app it loads a really awkward default one.

>>55511087
>windows
>osx
So you want an insecure firewall?

>>55511024
They're porting the whole thing bro, not only the bash shell. You'll be able to run native linux programs on Windows.

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>>55511120

>>55511120
No.
I have to use those every now and then and for those systems exist proprietary firewall solutions with features which I have not yet found equivalents of in the linuxverse.

Basically, I want a (secure) firewall with the features of those insecure ones, but perhaps I'm asking for too much.

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>>55511186
lvl up your memes

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I have a debian 8 net install that I'm tired of fucking with. I want to install arch but the only way I can get connectivity on this machine is through an android tethering program that I currently have working on my Mint 17.3 install.

Can I install Arch on another partition by extracting the boot strap image and chrooting in then following the install guide per usual? I know it uses ZSH by default but I'll install that. I'm a bit confused by the Arch Wiki article on doing this.

>>55511236
I'm using debian 8 and have gotten some things figured out, what are you having problems with?

What's the best way to keep data while hopping distros?
Making the switch from Xubuntu to Arch

>>55511236
>I'm tired of fucking with
>Debian

Hoboy if you're tired of fucking with Debian you better get your ass ready for Arch

>>55511215
ty

>>55511254
a separate /home partition
If you didn't do this when installing xubuntu, tough shit
Just back your /home up to an external drive or something

What's with the Arch meme getting traction every so often?

It's like it comes by in waves. Bunch of influx of newbie users, and then a bunch of anally ravaged people, shitposting, elitism, and just a complete and utter mess

I wonder if those waves can be correlated with some ebin reddit thing that pushes people to want to try it

>>55511093
retard

>>55511108
microsoft did.
you know linux is mostly free and open source, right? have you EVER touched a line of code in your fucking life? do you know how retardedly horrible is the WINAPI? do you think canonical would try to shoot themselves in the foot for the profit of microsoft?
do you REALLY think canonical would be wasting time and efforts doing this? do you REALLY think ubuntu is different from any other linux out there?

>>55511155
of course. so what? what will microsoft do, convince windows users to use linux on windows?

http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html
>That's perhaps a bit odd for me, as I hadn't used Windows in nearly 16 years. But that changed a few months ago, as I embarked on a super secret (and totally mind boggling!) project between Microsoft and Canonical, as unveiled today in a demo during Kevin Gallo's opening keynote of the Build conference....
do you really think developing this would take a few months?

are you kidding me? do you seriously call yourselves "linux users", you clueless retards?
let me guess: you use arch linux.

>>55511035
>arch zero bloat
u w0t m8?

>>55511035
Like clockwork.
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>55511320
It's about boosting Canonicals market share in change for boosting Microsoft with native Linux, faggot. Do you even PR.

>>55511253
>>55511257
It's just a minor issue regarding the tethering software I use. There is no documentation for it where as there is plenty for arch. I tried applying the fixes from the arch one on debian and it still wasn't working. I posted about it above. I think I found what I need to make it work in the debian virtual networking article but in the time it would take me to download the packages and then figure out and download all their dependencies I could just install arch.
>>55510010

>>55511207
You're not asking for features that do not exist. you just dont want to look in how to set them up

iptables
filter
apply rules
done

>>55511374
>debian with old ass repos
>arch with latest repos.
You cant take a 750 hellcat and expect it to work stock in a model a

>>55511320
Your post is so full of bullshit, I don't even know where to start insulting. Wow. But srsly, educate yourself a bit more about the topic before posting. Thanks.

>>55511374
You're doing it wrong, m8.

>>55511300
Arch users dont shitpost.
The windows/mac/debian users create a vm with arch on it to shit post, and post screenshots(notice how the uptime is always a few minutes.

>>55511320
>retard
Well at least you got some arguments there.

>>55511409
that makes them arch users technically

>>55511405
>>55511392
Well, from what I can see easytether works fine in arch.
I don't have any way to get internet on the debian install so I need to download the package on my phone or in this mint install and then see why it wont install then download all the fucking dependencies, it's a pain in the ass.

Don't start it again pls. We all know not all $DISTRO users are retards. Let's move on.

Is there a guide to setting up torrents to an external harddrive and have them be seeding from there?

>>55511381
>iptables
>filter
>apply rules
>done
thats what I'm currently doing. I just want to spare me that hassle.

Which BSD should I install? FreeBSD or OpenBSD?

>>55511472
ufw, gufw

>>55510937
I've mostly used Debian-based distros, only used Redhat-based (CentOS) for learning purposes, and tried Manjaro for a month or two to try Arch without doing any of the hard work.

As a normie user, all the package managers offer the same shit, and they all work very similarly, just with differently named commands.

>>55511450
Set up your preferences to auto add a bunch of torrents from "your external harddrive"

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>>55511509

>>55511320
>linux
*linux distro

>>55511373
yeah, so what?
what I'm saying is: canonical did NOT cooperate with microsoft on implementing this shit. if any, canonical was asked to join the PR show, and they did. what's the problem?

>>55511419
>>Fuck off shill
>asking for arguments

>>55511403
>>Your post is so full of bullshit, I don't even know where to start insulting. Wow. But srsly, educate yourself a bit more about the topic before posting. Thanks.
ok, fag. go shitpost elsewhere

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>>55511524

idiot & loser FUCK OFF

>>55511450
What exactly are you trying to do? There is really nothing different to writing to a external drive than it would be to your home folder as long as the user running the torrent client has permissions to write to that disk

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>>55511510
You still don't seem to understand me. What I'm looking for is something like pic related.
Perhaps I'll try to improvise something myself when I have more time.

>>55511528
http://www.zdnet.com/article/canonical-and-microsoft-working-together-on-containers/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/

>>55511552
see >>55511120

>>55511558
>he actually baited so hard, he googled
Just don't reply.

Would Ubuntu for ARM just werk on any of these ARM-based SBCs, or do you need to use the board-specific versions from the SBC manufacturers?

>>55511552
application based, personal firewalls are placebo

>>55511576
Ok, maybe I'm the one who is misunderstanding something.
Could you please enlighten me on what about the concept (not the implementation) of such a firewall is insecure?

>>55511558
containers work *on top* of the system, they work *after* you implement everything else. many containers features are kernel features. they are implementing this on top of *windows*.
once again, do you think there is *any* technical cooperation, besides the MS devs asking canonical devs why feature X and Y are implemented this or that way?

>>55511633
You're starting to get boring dude.

>>55511633
your first post:
>canonical did nothing, there's no partnership
your second post:
>theres a partnership, but only for pr
your third post:
>okay they cooperate even technically, but, but

sort of funny

Which torrent client should i use on linux?
And what's the best way to protect myself from greedy jew lawyers?

>>55512037
rtorrent(+rutorrent), transmission, deluge, qbittorrent...

>>55511024
>canonical didn't do shit. source: some canonical guy talking about the windows/bash thing in some video.
>>55511320
>microsoft did.
>>55511528
>what I'm saying is: canonical did NOT cooperate with microsoft on implementing this shit. if any, canonical was asked to join the PR show, and they did. what's the problem?
>>55511633
>once again, do you think there is *any* technical cooperation, besides the MS devs asking canonical devs why feature X and Y are implemented this or that way?

>>55511748
show me where I said
>>canonical did nothing, there's no partnership
>>theres a partnership, but only for pr
>>okay they cooperate even technically, but, but
would you say asking questions on some technical topic is "technical cooperation"? I wouldn't.
seriously, you are reading what you want to read. go find me the names of the microsoft and canonical devs that are working in a single dev team

PR is PR, all companies will take advantage of that.

>>55503960
If you can get to a terminal, we can help. If you have NetworkManager installed, try running sudo nmtui

Just navigate with arrows and enter, go to activate a connection, rest is simple.

>>55504697
That's a cool idea, anonymous. Thanks for sharing.

>>55511627
You're controlling it at the appcation layer.
Any program would add its self to the list.
You dont want to use this layer, as it is insecure.

EIther you want security, or you want happiness.
Either buck up and type 2 commands or live blissfully.

anyone here learning Linux from ebooks ? is there any good books that teaches you everything from beginner to pro ?

>>55512152
Microsoft supporters are the enemy.
Simple.

>>55507977
It's good. It pastes whatever you highlight if you weren't aware.

>>55512255
Read the OP. There's a good book.

>>55512230
Ok, thanks.

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Why won't my dhcp server start? Debian 8.
When I run the system ctl command it says "not running dhcpcd because /etc/network/interfaces" and "defines some interfaces that will use a dhcp client failed" followed by that same error failed to start dhcp client. Trying to get easytether to work

>>55512257
what DE/OS do you use?
the guy that created GNOME loves microsoft
the systemd people have used parts of windows as an example for their shit
redhat has partnered with them many times, as has done novell
the linux kernel has code from microsoft

there is a difference between supporting microsoft, and letting them do whatever the shit they want to do. also, the GPL doesn't force people to stop using free software, quite the contrary.

>>55512298
post /etc/network/interfaces . my guess: something is wrong with its format

>>55512298
You're configs are misconfigured

>>55512420
>>55512426
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

Guys, please tell me there's an easy way to run a command at startup. I want the command

redshift -O 5500

to run at startup. Either before or after I login, but preferably before if possible. I have googled this and done a bit of research, but I can't find anything that seems simple and consistent. I'm using Debian stable.

>>55512524
xinitrc
or
your wm/de

>>55512565
Thanks mang

 im jew 

I'm using a non-en_US locale. How do I change the locale of a shell to en_US? I've tried LANG=en_US.utf-8, but it still seems to use my old locale. LANG=C works, but that isn't what I want because I need a utf-8 locale.

anyone can tell where i can find an iso of ubuntu 16.04 without all of the amazon crap

>>55512808
set en_us local
locale-gen

>>55512858
It's still printing messages in the original language and not English. I've already generated the en_us locale.

Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.

Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.

Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.

I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.

>>55512839
debian

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>>55512919
u wot m8

>>55512919
This needs to be updated.

>vista etc.

>>55512974
tried installing debian
gnome kept crashing when mpv went fullscreen
muh stable os

>>55513077
Switching distros doesn't solve your problems.
Try to fix it, thats how you learn the system.

Why is everyone so friendly? What made you guys decide not to be assholes?

>>55512839
https://fixubuntu.com/

>>55512919
I like it. How stale is this pasta?

>>55513142
This looks like how to debotnetify Widnows 10.
>download this
>click on a few bars
>no more spying!

>>55513077
Did you even try to fix it? You probably just needed to install the proper drivers/firmware to utilize your graphics hardware.

For example, my laptop with integrated Intel HD graphics ran like shit and had screen tearing in all video playback when I first installed Debian stable. So I took to google and quickly found out that all I needed to do was install

xserver-xorg-video-intel

. After a reboot, everything is now running smoothly, and there are even fancy GNOME 3 animations where there weren't before.

You're missing out on a really solid distro just because you couldn't do a tiny bit of initial maintenance.

>>55513392
Agreed. The best solution to avoid Canonical shenanigans is to avoid Ubuntu entirely.

>>55504027
Because it is basically "Windows: Linux Edition." Not everyone likes to rice out their shitty free desktop OS.

>>55513480
but everyone likes kernel updates

>>55513506
This.

>>55513506
You can enable those updates.

>>55513522
>b-but you can disable, I mean, enable it

>>55513522
There's a reason why several updates are blacklisted by default: They're considered dangerous and may break the system.

So, what do you want, an insecure or broken system?

>>55507485
>>55509626
>>55509673
I would imagine most graphical file managers have thumbnail previews.

I use PCManFM. It has the common functions, features that I've come to expect from a file manager, and it has few dependencies.

>>55513580
http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/11/answering-controversy-stability-vs-security-is-something-you-configure/

>>55513622
You're right. "GNOME Files" does too. I think people are either trolling, or unable to properly get their graphics hardware working.

>>55513622
>not using spacefm

>>55513690
>using a fm at all

When i run various programs via their systemd service file, they throw a fit, but when i run the exact command in the service file, it runs flawlessly.I have not modified any of the stock services files.
I have no idea where to look at.

>>55513622
>>55513667
>>55513690
Are you people just pretending to be stupid or simply retarded? Filepicker != Filemanager

>>55513700
>typing 50 char when you could 3 click

>>55512905
Uh, check the output of env to see if there's a setting in there's anything set to your usual locale/language? And try changing that?

>>55513728
>not being able to rename 9001 files with 10 chars

>>55513741
>organizing files

I've been trying to get a game working on Gentoo for a few hours now, but I keep getting this error when trying to run it

error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Any ideas?

>>55513789
Missing lib or missing/broken symlink to lib.

>>55513741
>cant use sed/awk/sort

>>55513789
Found your problem

error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

>>55513822
>>>/9gag/

>>55513392
except in this case you are simply uninstalling a package. in the case of windows 10, you just can't remove the botnet. also, AFAIU, this is disabled by default.
also, you could just install the minimal version, or any other *ubuntu flavor, and the amazon stuff won't be there.

>>55513877
The fact that they even tried is enough.

>>55513739
Alright, LANGUAGE wasn't set to en_US, so `env LANGUAGE=en_US bash` opened a shell with the correct language. Thanks

>>55513720
I guess I'm simply retarded, but it was a fair assumption. I don't know why the file manager isn't the file picker. Either way, GNOME 3's file PICKER has thumbnails, albeit really shitty ones and only in a list afaik

>>55513720
>filepicker
I didn't realize there was a distinction, but yes, I made a mistake in equating the two.

>>55513690
>not using spacefm
Just checked it out, and it's nice. Very configurable. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>55513728
>>55513741
>>55513806
Nothing prevents you from using a graphical fm, and also using cli fm.

I guess you just want to argue on the internet?

>>55513999
I like this friendly man and his digits.

>>55513998
These thumbnails are called icons.

>>55513998
The file picker is part of GTK.
The file manager is a individual program.

While you can change the program, you can't change the picker. This makes a lot of GTK victims confused and angry.

>>55514110
Fuck, I'm definitely retarded. Why hasn't anyone fixed this thumbnails-in-the-file-picker thing?

>>55511509

bump

>>55514171

GTK thinks it's not a priority and won't accept patches that add it

>>55512461
>>55512426
>>55512420
>>55512298
>>55511441
>>55511405
>>55511374
>>55511257
>>55511253
>>55511236
I just installed arch from mint with the boot strap image. It took like 45 minutes, everything is working great including easytether. Posting from it now.

Mate is ugly as fuck. Going back to cinnamon, then I just need to install some shit like deluge, skype, discord, mpv, infinality and I'm good to go. Thanks guys

>>55514487
>infinality
bloat on arch, typical arch user.

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I need a good frameless/borderless image viewer to showcase my waifu, any tips?

Hey /fglt/, I need help picking a distro. I would prefer one with the dpkg/apt package manager, but that's not necessary.

I've tried Debian and Fedora but I had too many problems with Debian and I dislike the lack of non-free packages in Fedora. I might try Mageia, any suggestions?

>>55514536
Sxiv

>>55514520
>having acceptable font rendering

>>55514520
Why? It looked good on mint so I'm sure it'll look good here. Didn't affect performance either.

>>55514569
>type 500 commands to view an entire folder
Nah

>>55514643
Fuck off.

>>55503990
i have it on my laptop already.

care more about the server version, a little more critical to me.

>>55514669
>double click image
>entire directory is avalible
Mad clifag?

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Hey guys. Hope your day is going well. I was thinking about Librebooting my Thinkpad T400. I heard that after that I can't run Windows. Is that true? My main concern is can I run Windows 7 or 8.1 in a VM? I need to use Windows in Virtualbox for work.

Other things. Is it reversible? What tools do I need to do it? What privacy or security advantages does it offer?

I'm currently triple booting Windows 8.1, Ubuntu 16.04, and Android 6.0.1 if that helps.

>>55514570
>never configured a system properly without it
>thinks it's the only way
Typical arch fag

>>55514643
Are you retarded?

>>55514734
You are not being funny or smart. You have many misconceptions. Can you please kill yourself? Thanks.

>>55514541
Just use RPM-Fusion for Fedora. It's an awesome distro.

>>55514734
>never tried it sxiv
>no idea of the features
You're embarrassing yourself

>>55514793
>>55514541
>Fedora
>Using a meme distribution

If you want to use apt-get, try Ubuntu

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>>55503990
>using incognito mode to browse 4chan

turbo paranoia right there

>>55514756
>>55514768
>>55514786
>>55514796

I'm not going to force my self to use inferior technology, when there are other options that dont impead my workflow.

>configured
Show me mighty one. Show me how to easily navigate between folders that are not within the same tree, but on multiple devices. Show me gracious one, allow me to easily navigate between 4 folders at the same time without havingt to have 4 consoles open running tmux.

You simply cant.
There is no config that allows this on your precious workflow hindering shitty console image viewer

feh and sxiv and all other hindering cli IMAGE viewers, are no longer needed. We dont need to have 32kb of ram and a 2mb hard drive.RUnning xorg 0.1
Get out of the past granpa

>>55515007
Have fun with your borderless feature rich image viewer. You're a class a moron.

This is kind of meme but is compiling and running a .NET application going to work if mono is available or what? The source is available but only build by the devs is windows

>>55515106
So you indeed, admit that it isnt possible using your sacred program?

>>55514536
mpv

mpv for video
mpv for audio
mpv for images

mpv

>>55514872
>Incognito
Bonjour reddit

>>55515162
>only viewing one image at a time

-> >>55515243

>>55515155
I have no idea what you're on about son, carry on trying make yourself feel big though.

>>55512264
I don't like it and want to disable it.
(Or change it to like Ctrl + middle click)

>>55514603
It's unnecessary, you can get perfectly good rendering without it these days. A lot of the patches originally developed for infinality were adopted upstream.

>>55513376
Real old pasta. It got a few versions/continuations.

>>55513124
Free software is important to me and I know that new users of GNU/Linux often need help for the most basic things because they can't word things correctly yet.
if i can help them get out of the dependence on proprietary software and become part of a community it makes me happy.
But that is just a personal thing.