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Previously on: >>55502643

Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine using VirtualBox or other software made for this puporse for safety purposes.
1) Use the Live ISO (if your distribution of choice has one) to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything, that way, you can get to experience the GNU/Linux operating system without installing it.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS, this is recommended if you want to know more about the GNU/Linux operating system.
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* Resources:
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$ man <insert command here>
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https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org
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first for SATYA NUTELLA
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Hey guys. Hope your day is going well. I was thinking about Librebooting my Thinkpad T400. I heard that after that I can't run Windows. Is that true? My main concern is can I run Windows 7 or 8.1 in a VM? I need to use Windows in Virtualbox for work.

Other things. Is it reversible? What tools do I need to do it? What privacy or security advantages does it offer?

I'm currently triple booting Windows 8.1, Ubuntu 16.04, and Android 6.0.1 if that helps.
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>>55515308
Seconding this. I'll go read more on it while someone else (You)s (You).
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Ey, I'm on Debian with GNOME 3 and neither .xsession nor .xinit seem to be doing anything when I login. They're both executable, and valid shell scripts.

Any clue what's up? How do you run commands at startup?
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Ubuntu or Fedora? I want customizability to be a priority, but I'm planning on using i3 anyway so the DE doesn't matter to me. I'd prefer a minimal install so I don't have to uninstall a lot of bloatware.
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Does Arch really teach you more about Linux than other distros?
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>>55515666
Yes; when you install Arch, a team of personal tutors is deployed to your home. This alone gives it a huge advantage over other linux distributions, which would otherwise be nearly identical.
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>>55515666
No. It's very similar to Debian. Almost everything is automatic.

The distro you are thinking of is Gentoo.
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>>55515666
Short answer, no

Long answer, what matters isn't the distro, it's the user. You can learn a lot about Linux with fucking Ubuntu if you try. What Arch does is force you to go under the hood which doesn't mean you will learn, since you will probably just copy commands and configs from the wiki, and Gentoo does that better anyway.
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>>55515666
No you can do the same thing with a minimal install of ubuntu
you might learn something trying to fix it when something breaks though
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>>55515666
Arch taught me more than Debian did
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>>55515666
Arch is a DIY distro, like Gentoo without the autism and timesink. So yeah, it'll teach you more than a preconfigured distro
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>>55515853
>like Gentoo without the autism and timesink
Elabore
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>>55515871
Well, Gentoo needs way more time to set up. Gentoo gives you more customizability because of the choice it gives you during compilation.

But if you are doing projects other than installing the distro, Arch, Debian/CentOS minimal, Fedora/Ubuntu Server is the way to go

Gentoo is just a useless timesink
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>>55515918
I mean how does Arch teach you more than a preconfigured distro while not being as much of a timesink as Gentoo
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is this a locale error? do i have to change locale?
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>>55515666
Kind of. You learn almost everything that Arch gives you by installing a barebones Debian distro.
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>>55515657
>I'd prefer a minimal install
Debian net installation with no DE.
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>mainline: 4.7-rc7 2016-07-11
4.7 please come out soon.
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>>55515918
Have you used Gentoo before? Or are you just talking out your ass?

>Arch, Debian/CentOS minimal, Fedora/Ubuntu Server is the way to go
It seems you are.
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Friendly reminder that all GNU/Linux distributions are virtually identical, differing only superficially.
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Petty infighting may now continue.
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>>55515308
My T400 runs W7. It's heavy as fuck though; I don't know why i fell for this stupid fucking meme
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>>55516245
I'm talking about replacing my bios firmware. I know it runs windows 7.
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What's the easiest way (new linux idiot here) to inbed an album-art image onto an MP3 within linux?
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>>55516310
puddletag
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>>55516310
Easiest via cli, but since you're new, I suggest puddletag, a tagger which can add album art.
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Anyone have experience debugging win32 applications running in wine? Or should I just do this in a VM. For reverse engineering purposes
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>>55516347
>>55516357
thanks friends
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>>55515243
The book is actually real.
https://sagitter.fedorapeople.org/faif-2.0.pdf
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How would I set up development environments for Java and C++ on Debian?
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>>55515608
There are a few ways. You could make systemd services or use gnomes autostart feature.
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>>55516406
sudo apt install netbeans


Then select plugins for C/C++.

Alternatively, follow this process for Eclipse or whatever other IDE.

Alternatively, install GCC/G++ and the Oracle/OpenJDK.

Alternatively, employ a web search engine, because this process has been addressed 15 umptillion times already.

Thanks.
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>>55516040
Got a few regressions and issues still.
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GTKucks need not apply

http://www.aelog.org/checksums-made-easy
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>>55517077
>buhuu the terminal is so dark and creepy
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>>55517094
Meanwhile
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What distribution would make a good VirtualBox guest? Ubuntu?
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>>55517165
Ubuntu is boring.
Try Manjaro's bspwm spin with OpenRC.
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>>55517190
I'm looking for something lightweight that works well as a guest.
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> What distribution?
> What distribution?
> What distribution?
> What distribution?

Hi /fglt/, I was wondering which distribution to use for somebody who like to browse the web and maybe run files and such. Can somebody point me in the right direction??
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>>55517207
install gentoo
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>>55517207
>Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
>Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux
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>>55517207
Well I guess newcomers are pretty lost. See all the "what you're using $DISTRO" and ">he fell for the $DISTRO meme" posts allover the board. I'd trust nobody anymore and maybe ask /fglt/.
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>>55517207
Someone should update this piece of shit.
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>>55517220
I'm homosexual trains women, what linux is best for me ??/?

can linux use the internet and listen to music?
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>>55517279
It's breddy good like it is.
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>>55517295
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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kek, didn't know the that the filepicker made it into the wiki https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/File_Picker_meme
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>>55517295
https://gitlab.com/femsf/toleranux
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Every time I right click on firefox a "segmentation fault" crashes it. This started happening after I last did -Syyu. Any idea what is going on...?
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>>55515308
i don't see any reason why running windows in a VM won't work. the VM emulates its own BIOS
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>>55517645
Downgrade to the last firefox that worked and wait for another update.
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>>55517279
it's good like it is.
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>>55517295
4.6 or linux-libre
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>>55517677
Well, I guess I'll try that and see. (Or maybe I'll switch to Debian)
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how do i make the the default output volume 100 in ALSA?
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Using rsync/scp (to grab a secure file on an potentially insecure password-authenticated system) cannot possibly compromise the security of the system I used to grab it, correct?
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>>55517077
>>>/out/
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How can I disable the middle click copy paste? Or at least change it to Ctrl+middle click or something.
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>>55518198
Benefit of GNOME 3: There's an option to disable this
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>>55518198
>>55518319
forgot a screenshot..
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>>55518319
I'm only using a wm tho. felt for the rice meme.
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>>55512839
Use Xubuntu (or minimal Ubuntu?)
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>>55515243
How the heck do I update flash on Linux?
Apparently Adobe stopped supporting Firefox on Linux?
I understand the dismay towards flash around here, but this computer is to be used for tutoring folks so advice would be really appreciated.
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I'm drawing a blank here.
I'm kinda new to scripting with bash so I have no idea how I should solve this.
My problem is that I want to include a version number in an html file. I can extract the version number just fine and theoretically append it.
But if I do append, it's not inside the HTML body. So, how can I move the line to a specified location (and later replace it if it's already in there)?
I thought about using awk but reading through the grymoire, I don't understand on how to use it for my use-case since it's constantly talking about fields.
A little help would be appreciated.
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>>55518787
Adobe discontinued Flash altogether on GNU/Linux. Not only for Firefox.
Anyway, if you don't have it installed you can just install it and be on the latest version that's been developed. If you do, you might have to use your package manager or download the latest Flash version from their website.
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>>55518787
>tutoring folks with flash
why?
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>>55518950
thank you. I think a package manager is the GUI thing that is always pestering me to update :)

>>55519034
uhh I'm not teaching them flash. they are low income/legally disabled/elderly people who haven't worked a computer in their life usually. a minute detail such as having flash on the computer doesn't mean shit, I just want youtube and other sites to work. is that a problem for you?
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Does anyone know how to enable border shadows on all windows/programs in Cinnamon (w/ Muffin WM)?

Pic related, top shows how some windows don't have shadows, bottoms shows that some windows do. I want all windows to have shadows like the bottom.
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>>55519237
I'm using compton for the shadows. I'm using openbox but you can give it a try.
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>>55519248

I was hoping I could do it within the Cinnamon/Muffin configs themselves, but if not I'll give Compton a try.
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>>55519164
>I just want youtube and other sites to work.
where have you been in the last 5 years?
if you have flash installed it is actually harder to get video to work on youtube and most other sites. try purging it.
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>>55517626
>sed forces changes upon unwitting streams, thereby oppressing them. As ToleranUX is a safe space, it was removed.
This is gold.
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Hi,

lets say I have a file called 'test'. How would I give the user the permission to read it, but remove the execute permission, without touching the write permission
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>>55519289
Is HTML5 optimized for lower end computers?
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Hey /fglt/, my laptop only works with GRUB set to 'nomodeset', otherwise it gets stuck on a black screen. I just want to change my resolution to something else then 800x600.
Using Lubuntu (because the laptop is shit), also installed Lubuntu just yesterday, so I am definitely an absolute beginner
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>>55519573
http://ss64.com/bash/chmod.html
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>>55519582
"In terms of performance and usability, HTML5 loads faster and consumes less power than Flash content."
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>>55518787
Pretty sure if you want to use flash on linux you should use chrome
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>>55515308
Remix OS?
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Want to learn linux. As I can see from answers, buntu/mint is ok for beginners but i wont learn to much because it is too beginner friendly. So what distro should I choose to start learn, but still not as hardcore as arch and gentoo? Fedora? Debian?
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>>55519905
you can learn from any distro if you want, what you need for a good learning environment is a friendly community, documentation in the form of real documentation and wikis, books and manuals.
I'd go for debian if i had to pick a first distro again, though you may need to read about it before going for it.
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>>55518787
Theres a port of the chromium flash engine for firefox. Pepper-flash or whatever.
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Any way to easily execute a bash script remotely on another computer on the network?

I want to execute a bash script on my desktop from my laptop, both running Ubuntu.
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>>55519969
ssh
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>>55519969
ssh [email protected]
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>>55519995
>>55519980
Well that was easy, thanks

Since it asks for a password directly after, is there any way to tell it to automatically enter the password? I'm trying to bind it to a key so i dont want to enter a password every time.
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>>55520054
sshpass -p *password* ssh etc

worked
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If anyone is interested, Packt Publishing gives away a gratis ebook "Linux Utilities Cookbook".
https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning?date=110716
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>>55519726
Pretty sure if you want to use flash on linux you should rethink the point why you're using linux
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>>55519905
Try fedora.
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>>55517207
>>55517279
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>>55520238
>backtrack
Looks like it's even more outdated than the other one, but the structure is better tbqh.
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>>55515243
I want user friendliness of Ubuntu with good aesthetics (Unity and KDE look shit).
Where do I look for?
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Anyone experience with Firejail?
Is it useful for you?
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Newbie here. I want the output of df to be on one line. So I tried df -h | sed -e 's/\n/ /g' but it didn't work. I assume this has something to do how stout behaves, can someone explain it to me? And maybe give me a pointer in the right direction to solve this problem without having to use a temp file.
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>>55520307
Ubuntu isn't user friendly.

If you want a easy-to-use beginner distro that doesn't look ass, get any distro with a decent DE and simply add a nice theme.
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>>55520307
I'd recommend Debian. Gnome 3 looks decent enough, especially with a good theme
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I have a small server at home for my backup, files server and plex needs. I've recently started to make use of ssh to encrypt my mobile hotspot when I'm abroad since my provider limits streaming services and other things to 10kb/s.

Works like a charm and I'm bretty happy.

Now, can I do something on that server to increase privacy on my home connection a bit? Can I use it to encrypt everything that comes and goes from my home connection? I'm a Linux newpleb but can manage basic services by now.
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>>55520328
A quick hack: df | xargs

Via tr: df | tr -d '\n'

Via awk: df | awk '{printf "%s ", $0}'

Sed is a special case. Read more about why it's different here: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sedfaq5.html#s5.10

Happy hacking.
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>>55520460
Thank you
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>>55519905
Debian
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>>55521008
No. Only vanilla Ubuntu wit Unity as DE.
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>>55520421
you mean like a VPN? look into openVPN
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http://sparkylinux.org/
thoughts?
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>>55515243
Is it possible to use GNU emacs or spacemacs as an OS? Lets say I did a bare minimal LFS install with the core utils, xorg, and GNU emacs, would that be possible?
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>>55521270
Look into guixSD
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Thanks you RMS and Linus for making such a wonderful thing possible. GNU + Linux will triumph in the end.
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>>55521352
Your welcome.
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Can anyone recommend me a comfy (riceable preferably) linux distro for a long time windows user?
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>>55521415
see >>55520238
there's a few things to know:
GNU/Linux is not windows
package managers are a thing
the terminal is your friend
Man and Info are your friends
DON'T USE GNU/LINUX LIKE YOU USED WINDOWS
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>>55521287
Interesting. It's in beta, I'll look into it. Thanks.
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>>55515243
Is is possible to install utox or qtox on raspberry pi or do i need to install android version cause it is arm?
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>>55521587
you could just compile it for arm.
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>>55521637
were is a guide in compiling tox in arm?
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>>55521727
i dunno, i thought irengen2 kinda fucked some things up.
https://github.com/tux3/qTox/blob/master/INSTALL.md#compile-qtox
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When i run some services via systemd,the services files come from upstream, not modified.
They constnatly restart, and throw just full out throw a fit.
However, running the exact command via the service file, it runs flawlessly.
What could cause this?
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Is there a way to toggle caps lock from the terminal, similar to
numlockx
?
All I could find in the web is about remaping keys.
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>>55521917
press capslock
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>>55521917
You can use xdotool:
xdotool key Caps_Lock

It's pretty nice and powerful program, make sure to read the manpage.
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>>55522038
This can only toggle it.
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>>55522093
Why can you not just press the fucking capslock key? Jesus christ
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>>55522161
That also only toggles it. I need it off or on by command.
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>>55522182
>need capslock
>press capslock
>dont need capslock
>unpress capslock
Why are you using so autistic.

So you only have 2 fingers on your left hand or some shit
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>>55522093
Sorry, but you ask how to toogle it.
If you want to turn it off only, try this:
xset -q | grep "Caps Lock: *on" && xdotool key Caps_Lock

This will execute xdotool (and press Caps_Lock) only if CapsLock is already turned on.

Happy?
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>>55522262
I noticed I did write toggle in my question when I actually needed a separate command for on and off, my bad.
This works thanks.

Also is there a way to set num/caps lock even if X is not running?
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>>55522319
setleds -D +caps
setleds -D -caps
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Embrace phase?
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>>55522356
Thank you.
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>>55522498
are those red hat people?
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>>55522498
I can't seem to find that Microsoft blob gorging down Ubuntu into its belly.
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>>55522498
>RH working with MS, SUSE paying money to MS, Canonical working with MS
are only community distros safe from this evil?
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>>55522724
Keke
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>>55522498

RH/Fedora = MS cucks
Canonical = MS cucks
Mint = son of MS cucks

Is there anything left we can recommend to newcomers?
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>Based on engineering collaboration with Red Hat, the National Security Agency (NSA) released a new security feature for Linux, SELinux, in 2001 and contributed it to the Linux community. This was seen by many as a tacit endorsement of Linux, which had been thought by many people in government to be an unreliable amateur project. It was also significant because the NSA was *improving* the project with their own software.
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>>55523124
keke
>Summary: Never run Red Hat’s “Enterprise Linux”, which cannot be trusted because of NSA involvement; Amazon, which pays Microsoft for RHEL and works with the CIA, should never be used for hosting
http://techrights.org/2014/01/17/rhel-security/
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>>55523067
Manjaro
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>>55523067
Debian, Funtoo
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>>55523563
Why Funtoo over Gentoo?
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>>55523590
because funtoo is the real gentoo
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>>55516080
Oh, truth hurts, doesn't it, salty NEET?

>>55517155
Top kek
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>>55523474
Some of it's spins look really nice.
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-jwm-16-06-1-released/4435?u=orajnam
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I've been trying to fix a problem on Gentoo for a while, and I think the cause is the lack of a file in the lib32 folder.
Is there a repository for lib files, or will I have to install something?
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>>55524198
You'll have to install something that puts the lib file in the library path.
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>>55517077

There are plenty of checksum verifying programs which use GTK. You're an idiot who doesn't know the difference between GTK and GNOME.
Why do you also keep posting that every day? Did you write that and you're now feeling pride for such a simple tool?
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>>55518353

If you're only using a window manager, then you shouldn't have trouble with the middle click copy/paste since you're not running any programs apart from your window manager. Just enjoy your window manager.
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I want to make a hash list of a lot of files (with lots of subdirectories). None of the checksum programs seem to have any recursive options, so what's the best way to go about doing this?

I can't throw everything into one messy folder either.
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>>55519905

You learn Linux by reading the kernel sources and by reading about kernels in general at first.
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>>55524555
butthurt gtkuck detected
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>>55524583
sha256sum /* > dicks.txt
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>>55524583
make one yourself
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>>55524596

Sorry, I don't speak in memes. We're smarter than that and we can use coherent sentences formed out of proper words. Therefore I don't understand what your picture was implying. It looks like Gedit, the text editor that comes with GNOME and which is using GTK+.

For clarification of the situation, I recommend you read these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B
http://www.gtk.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
https://www.gnome.org/
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>>55524583

Use "find" with the "-exec" flag.
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>>55524639
Is sha256sum the way to go? Why not sha512sum or md5?
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>>55524677
>sha512sum
>>55524555 will claim he doesn't need this anyway :^)
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>>55524663
Once I have the list, how do I check it? Run the same command to output to a new list.txt then compare those two files?
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>>55524733
rtfm
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>>55524677

md5 might be avoided because of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5#Collision_vulnerabilities

Depends on your use case. If you're only verifying your local files for backups or similar, I guess it's okay.
Is sha256 more CPU intensive? If yes, then it might be overkill.
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>>55524733

There's literally a flag for checking. How about you type sha1sum --help?
You could also search the internet which has about tree fiddy thousand answers to such an often asked question.
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>>55524766
>just bing it
/thread?
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>>55524787
>bing
install searx
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>>55524766
The character count of the actual answer is much shorter than your post, so it violates the UNIX philosophy.
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>>55524766
I didn't figure it would read stuff like ./folder/file

I wonder why none of them can write like that without using find.

Thanks though.
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save time by rebooting in the background: reboot &
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>>55524914
*
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>>55524914

>I wonder why none of them can write like that without using find.

Because they do one job. You're supposed to use another utility which already offers that feature. There is no point in having programs which do the same thing.
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>>55524936
schedule your reboots in advance:
reboot && sleep 10000 && reboot
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>feel like laptop could use a fresh install, so want to move away from mint cinnamon
>try xubuntu
>looks shit, Fn keyboard shortcuts don't work

Well fuck this

Any suggestions for what distro to use next? Wouldn't mind learning how to use Linux a little better, but I also want my laptop to not be a pain in the ass too use due to shit breaking constantly. So a nice medium.

Suggestions?
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>>55524978
sleep is actually a bit more intelligent.
Arugments lik sleep 1m or sleep 24h work.
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>>55524995
Try Debian Sid or Arch.
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>>55524914
I've actually written a recursive checksum duplicate file finder in python, do you want to see the source or still write it yourself?
>>
Is there a way to tell "at" to automatically remove old jobs?
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>>55524574
I do have the middle click copy paste even though I have only openbox.
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>>55525177
Bwcause X is managing that.
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>>55525193
how to disable it?
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>>55525210
why???
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>>55525210
Why do you want to disable it? It's a cool feature. You have basically two clipboards:

Selected text is automatically copied into PRIMARY clipboard, which can be pasted via middleclick. Then you have you default CLIPBOARD.

Just enjoy it buddy.

Just enjoy it.
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>>55525266
Because it get rid of the cache when the program is closed.
Because it does not paste across monitors, virtual or different xservers
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>>55525246
>>55525266

>I'm using "middle click + clitmouse to scroll"
>I use middle click to open link in a new tab / close a tab
>the middleclick is full of garbage text I don't need
>middle click buffer have few lines
>accidentally presses middle click while lurking on IRC
>all the buffer except the last line is sent to the chat
>gets bullied

Also, I only need one clipboard.
The middle click copy paste is more a nuisance than helpful to me.
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>>55520289
yeah way better. like "unix-like"? Really?
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>>55525290
>>55525329
>>55525349

>Why isn't Linux just Windows?
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>>55520307
You could try Xubuntu. But just make sure you like XFCE (it's basically a better Gnome), because it's hard to replace it.
>>
Do you have to unmount a drive before using chown? I'm getting the impression that it doesn't matter as long as you're the only user, is this correct?
>>
>>55525378
I know right. Linux is supposed to be configurable whereas Windows config is chosen for you.
>>
Got my T530 in the mail today and I'm planning on going linux with it. I've been running ubuntu on my laptop for a while, but I'd like to go with something a lot more lightweight with this machine.

It's going to be mainly used for development/working on my masters. I probably won't be using the nvidia card at all, so I'm not too worried there.

I really only have ubuntu experience, so something that requires some work (I want to learn) but doesn't require me to literally reinvent the wheel would be perfect.

What do /fglt/?
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>>55525411
Then just xmodmap it, run a script that cleans the clipboard, bind a key to mouse2, patch gtk, whatever, jesus.
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>>55525396
You cannot chown block devices.
Mount it
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>emul-linux-x86 packages no longer in portage repository
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>>55524748
>Is sha256 more CPU intensive
obviously not, it will be more efficient.
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>>55525477
There's some strange advice out there, then.
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>>55525210

This solution will work globally and preserve the middle mouse functionality.

Install xbindkeys xsel xdotool

Place this in ~/.xbindkeysrc

"echo -n | xsel -n -i; pkill xbindkeys; xdotool click 2; xbindkeys"
b:2 + Release
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>>55525545
There are operating at different levels.
/dev/sda is a block device, the file system is not exposed at this level, it does not care either.
/mount /dev/sda /opt/nigger
chown can now access the device, as it has a filesystem.
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>>55525575
This is triggering my UNIX autism.
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>>55525600
>UNIX
This isn't the friendly osx thread faggot.
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>>55525629
Fuck off Stallman
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>>55525629
GNO
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>>55525629
GNU ISN'T UNIX
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whats the best linux to start with?
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>>55525895
mint
>>
>>55525177

How are you posting on 4chan with only Openbox?
>>
Is it possible to use the Xbox one wireless adapter on Linux? or am I stuck with a vibrationlesss wired controller?
>>
>>55526470
The last thing I heard about any xbone shit was adding support to the elite controller. I don't know if that implies support for the other.
>>
I just installed wayland plus sway on gentoo.

emerged firefox, but can't start it since it can't find the display. What gives?
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Debian 8.4 jessie with Cinnamon here.

My Nautilus is moving files to my USB stick instead of copying it. How do I fix this issue? What that happened?
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>>55526630
ctrl+c
ctrl+v
>>
What's the best DE for battery life?
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>>55526064
>>>/b/
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>>55526799
no DE
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>>55526883
Fucking sucks.
>>
I'm currently running Fedora 23. I've been using Linux for a few years and am moderately proficient. Is there a quick and easy way to do a "cleanup" of my packages? It seems that I have a lot (~1,700) and I would like to keep my system as clean as possible from unused packages. Thank you.
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>>55526968

Also, I'm using Fedora with xfce if that matters. Sorry for unnecessary bump.
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>>55526968
Your pacakge manager should have a way to show you packages that have no deps.
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>>55526799
Have you tried LXDE? It's probably the most usable DE for lower-end PCs, and would probably help your battery. Beyond that, go without a DE and just use a window manager by itself.
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>>55526799
Something super lightweight like DWM or bspwm.
You arent gonna gain much from those over something like LXDE though, and they are a lot harder to learn.
(just go with lxde)
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Could you kind people recommend the best Linux/GNU OS for me
>starting uni, accounting (inb4 "lmao no STEM")
>over a decade of windows behind
>modern windows too spynet/restricting
>computer literate, but no coding experience
>still kinda want something that would teach me to become better with computers
>something with an active team behind it

If it matters, it would be on a t420
ty
>>
can i have a tldr guide on how to optimize a SSD for a debian install (the wiki page for it is war and peace tier long)

or could i have a dumbed down explanation on how badly i fucked up by doing the guided LVM-encrypted partitioning option thing during install?
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>>55527111
Objectively Gentoo, in practice Debian or Arch.
Just follow the guide for them and get a GUI set up, you'll be fine after that.
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>>55527111
Debian with Gnome or Xfce, else Fedora KDE Spin because I think KDE is nice for people coming from Windows
>computer literate, but no coding experience
this mindset seems to be incredibly widespread. What can the Linux community do to counter this completely wrong cliché that you need to be able to code in order to use Linux?
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>>55527111
Try debian to start out, and maybe after half a year or so switch to arch.
>>
>>55515243
so, I use urxvt now, and I also use ghci sometimes
urxvt uses <alt>(left || right) for moving the cursor back or in front a word, but ghci needs <ctrl> instead of <alt>, and it won't register in ghci because <ctrl> is used for some other ISO thing

how do I make ghci work with these feature
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>>55515774
>implying arch breaks easily in the modern era
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>>55527111
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T420/jessie

Debian with Cinnamon or XFCE as a DE would probably be a good start. The only non-FOSS bit you need is for wifi.
>>
>>55527158
arch wiki
>>
>>55527164
Well I kinda felt it was the wrong term, but I was just trying to get across my level of computing literacy.

I guess it would be more appropiate to say that I hardly ever used command prompts and every problem I had was solved with google rather than my own knowledge
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>>55527158
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives/Tips_and_tricks#TRIM

Tl;dr setup trim.
>>
Why doesn't my i3 status bar appear?

Take a bit of my config if you need it
# Status bar 
bar {
status_command i3blocks -c ~/.config/i3/i3blocks.conf # Set status command
position top # Set position

colors {
# Type Border Background Text
focused_workspace $bgalt $bgalt $fg # Current workspace
inactive_workspace $bg $bg $fg # Other workspaces
urgent_workspace $urgent $urgent $fg # Urgent workspaces

background $bg # Bar background color
separator $bg # Bar seperator color
}
}
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>>55527068

>a "lightweight" desktop environment is better for conserving battery life
[citation needed]

https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/10/power-saving-and-desktop-effects/
>>
anyone wanna take pity and post their tint2 setup.
I've failed so many times
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>>55526602
The normal one works fine without vibration. I would just like to use my wireless adapter.
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>>55527312

Vertical, Unity like, panel.

http://pastebin.com/Q0gs0wJa
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Give me a good reason to not install ubuntu on my new laptop
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>>55527341
Thats pretty nice and handles workspace too
Thanks
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>>55527430
unity a shit, canonical is the devil
>>
>>55526740
I didn't have to do like this before. I just needed to drag and drop the icons to copy them. Now they're moving.
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>>55527586
did you switch to wayland?
>>
What's the difference between LXLE and Lubuntu LTS? I know that even their website says they're practically the same but what's the point of LXLE's existence when you can download Lubuntu LTS and stick to LTS releases? I've been wondering this for way too long.
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>>55527187
xresources
URxvt.iso14755: false
URxvt.iso14755_52: false
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>>55527288
Reboot
also checked
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>>55527788
>Reboot
This isn't Windows.
>>
>>55527603
In my experience, LXLE is just Lubuntu that's been preconfigured/riced to be nice looking and easy to use. Also LXLE comes with applications for normies to do all non-dev related activities. It's the kind of thing you can hand to a computer illiterate, and they should be able to use it reasonably well out of the box.

Also, they have a list of all the stand-out features on their front page...
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>>55527788
Fixed it

>>55527892
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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>>55527603
http://www.lxle.net/about/
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>>55527643
but ctrl still doesn't register
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>>55527430
As long as you switch to Debian testing, then I'm fine with it.
>>
ok, so I know urxvt supports unicode
but what are some fonts that have a lot of unicode characters so that I can include in in urxvt*font
>>
>>55528093
GNU Unifont of course.
http://unifoundry.com/unifont.html
>>
How to do
sudo ip link set enp0s3 up
on startup as root
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>>55528374
crontab?
>>
>>55524198
Do you have multilib?
And are you on ~amd64?
Theb just add "ABI_X86="64 32" tot make.conf and emerge -auvDN @world.
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>>55528016
But does it support muh games
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>>55528381
Any solution that doesnt add bloat?
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>>55528715
It should be compatible with as many as possible, considering SteamOS is built on Debian Jessie
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>>55528892
Are you stupid?
>>
>>55527159
>>55527164
>>55527197
So I installed Debian, but it seems like the installer had no DE, so I'm stuck after login to in the BASH

How would I go about installing a DE.
And there is no option to choose them in the boot menu as the Debian site suggests
>>
>>55529057
Gentoo doesn't have this problem.
>>
>>55529057
Really? It was there on 8.3. If not, just
su
apt install <DE of choice>

Maybe reboot from there.

Adding sudo is another thing.
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>>55529057
>>55529133
Figured it out, it was just me downloading the barebone version and not the full installer
>>
>>55517077
#rektandburried
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1. How can I install ubuntu with custom packages?

I want i3, vlc, nm-cli and the ubuntu base.

I tried installing ubuntu server, but since there's no dhcpd or network manager I could not connect to WiFi or Tethered Andrid conection


2. [off topic]
What's the best practice to visit sensitive sites? Tor + VPN + DNSCrypt?

Can anyone post a simple guide to set them up?
>>
>>55529453
>sensitive
>>
how easy/hard would it be for a linux noob to install regular ubuntu and then make changes in order to replicate the experience of using linux mint?

basically i want to get linux mint's DE and repos and whatever else without having to risk downloading a bulgarian botnet. i hate unity so much. and other ubuntu flavors are too special snowflake for me
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>>55529453
VPN is a meme that gives you zero security.
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>>55529522
Aren't they?
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>>55529453
don't use ubuntu, use arch, it has all those packages
otherwise, try to get some ppa's or direct tar.gz 's that you can make with

also, define sensitive
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>>55529453
>I tried installing ubuntu server, but since there's no dhcpd or network manager
Maybe download it during installation?
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>>55529525
Install literally any distro plus Cinnamon.
>>
>>55529557
>tar.gz
What's wrong with tar.xz?
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>>55529557
>arch has more packages than any other distro
>>
>>55529581
i really don't get why people even make this over simplified posts

linux mint is more than just ubuntu + cinnamon idk why you even bothered filling out a captcha for that
>>
>>55529557
>>55529574
>>55529611


>Our system thinks your post is a spam
What the fuck is wrong with /g/'s bot?
>>
>>55529597
i never implied that
its just .gz are more used in my empircal evidence
>>55529611
I don't know the exact numbers for each, but empirically, I find that arch has mostly all the packages in the base, not mentioning that the aur even has more
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>>55529651
its because you poster "m@ster chon"
and I guarantee arch will most likely have the package you're looking for
if not, its in the aur, and if not, you can always dl the .tar.lzma and cmake it

as for tor, just dl the browser bundle
or install torify, and use it with a browser with non javascript
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>>55529636
How about this for overly simplified:
Ubuntu is a distro that attempts to be like Mac OS.
Mint is a distro that attempts to be like Windows.
>>
>>55529928
u wot m8?
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I'm looking for some help in diagnosing this issue.

I recently replaced the motherboard in my desktop computer (mobo LED claiming the CPU had issues and refused to POST after standard remedies; replacing the motherboard was a successful resolution). Since then, the integrated ethernet card (new board; standard Realtek using realtek/r8169.ko) fails intermittently.

The failure is non-recoverable without a reboot (no amount of taking the iface down and reloading kmods helps). Dmesg shows the following issue/trace:
[   82.909264]------------[ cut here ]------------
WARNING: CPU: 5 PID: 0 at /build/linux-3r7mVb/linux-3.13.0/net/sched/sch_generic.c:264 dev_watchdog+0x276/0x280()
NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1 (r8169): transmit queue 0 timed out
Modules linked in: ...
CPU: 5 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/5 Tainted: P OX 3.13.0-91-generic #138-Ubuntu
Hardware name: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. To be filled by O.E.M./990FXA-UD3 R5, BIOS F2 04/01/2015
...
Call Trace:
<IRQ> [<ffffffff81729906>] dump_stack+0x64/0x82
warn_slowpath_common+0x7d/0xa0
warn_slowpath_fmt+0x4c/0x50
? internal_add_timer+0x17/0x40
dev_watchdog+0x276/0x280
? dev_graft_qdisc+0x80/0x80
call_timer_fn+0x36/0x150
? dev_graft_qdisc+0x80/0x80
run_timer_softirq+0x21f/0x310
__do_softirq+0xfc/0x310
irq_exit+0x105/0x110
do_IRQ+0x56/0xc0
common_interrupt+0x6d/0x6d
<EOI> [<ffffffff81051586>] ? native_safe_halt+0x6/0x10
? clockevents_notify+0x4f/0x200
default_idle+0x1f/0x100
amd_e400_idle+0x7d/0x100
arch_cpu_idle+0x26/0x30
cpu_startup_entry+0xc1/0x2b0
start_secondary+0x21d/0x2d0
[ 82.909683] ---[ end trace 2490970d208069e8 ]---


Could it be a failure in the r8169 driver? My gut tells me this is some kind of memory corruption issue (perhaps I need to reseat / shuffle my RAM and check memtest?), but the system is stable outside of the intermittent failure of the ethernet interface. Am I on the right track here; could anyone shed any light on this? (running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)
>>
How to run commands at system startup as root?
>>
>>55530142
Use your init system. Create your own Daemon
>>
I just finished installing Kali alongside Ubuntu.
The install changed the UUID of my swap partition.
Ubuntu takes about 4 minutes to boot now, previously it took 5 seconds.
If I change the UUID back to what it was before, Kali takes long to boot.
What do.
>>
What is Linux zen compared to Linux
>>
>>55530210
Update the fstab on your ubuntu installation (/etc/fstab)
Just change the UUIDs
>>
>>55530109
>linux-3.13.0

Assuming you bought a new motherboard, you properly should update your kernel. New hardware and old Linux don't mix.
>>
>>55522356
jason@jason-virtual-machine ~ $ setleds -D +caps
KDGKBLED: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Error reading current flags setting. Maybe you are not on the console?

Does this only work in a VT?
>>
I have two machines, one windows, one Arch Linux. I'm almost always on the Windows machine, but occasionally it'd be useful for me to be able to ssh into the linux machine, run a livestreamer command, and have VLC/mpv open up on the monitor connected to the linux machine (which is not the same monitor as the windows machine).

I'm pretty sure it's possible, but I don't really know how.
>>
>>55530708
no
>>
>>55530665
>VMs
Try option 2
>>
>>55530142
Bump
>>
Sometimes my mouse freezes and I have to suspend and unsuspend to get it working again. Any idea what's wrong with it? The mouse works fine on other computers.
>>
>>55530974

>>55530166
>>55528381
have already answered this. Do you want me to call your mother to hand-hold you though the process?
>>
>>55530708
ssh -X. Investigate this. X11 forwarding.
>>
>>55530974
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd
>>
Mite be a weird question since I'm a computer retard, but is there a way to make Windows as "safe" as "Linux"? (which, if I understand, is only better than Windows for safety, if you're a standard user. Correct me if I'm wrong.)
I honestly want to switch to Linux but there's no way to make it work since I play games that will probably never be out on Linux. (and desu it would be a bit of a hassle to restart my computer everytime I want to switch OS)
>>
>>55531109
Assuming you play games on desktop you can set up KVM/QEMU and give windows VM no internet to be safe
>>
Is there a way to add a menu option to chrome that would send the current page to mpv?

So on youtube, for example, you just load the page and then mpv opens up and plays it with the menu context.
>>
>>55531325
look for a chrome extension open with mpv or something. Or just use Opera
>>
Hey /g/entoo men, I just want balls deep and installed Xubuntu on my Chinkpad. What are some programs I should install and any tips on how to learn to use this OS?

t. Windows user his whole life
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>>55531436
Forgot pic related
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>>55531402
The only ones i have found are done by children who have no clue wtf they are doing.
>>
Hello, /fglt/

Whenever I close my laptop lid, my ssh session freezes. How do I keep it running?
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>update gtk
>theme broke again
Someone recommend me a good theme that is actively maintained.
>>
>>55531568
besides adwaita only numix can keep up with gnome breaking themes every week
>>
>>55531568
Breeze gtk
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How do i install all these missing fonts on Fedora??
>>
>>55531736
Install typecatcher and get the fonts you need in your system
>>
>>55531755
Yeah but uhm. Where are the install instructions? FIle does not come with any and im sorta a newbie
>>
>>55531523
You need to change the udev rules to not hibernate/sleep when you close your laptop
>>
>>55531736
infinality
>>
>>55525895
xubuntu or ubuntu mate
>>
>>55531902
website 404'd
>>
>>55531865
Don't use rpm distros outside servers if you are new m8. Download and compile from the git. The instructions are in he readme
https://github.com/andrewsomething/typecatcher

>>55531889
>>55531523
I fixed the same thing with systemd

# echo "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" >> /etc/systemd/logind.conf && restart systemd-logind
>>
>>55532075
>systemd
Which is using udev
udev was the first major program it usurped
>>
>>55532075
the readme is a cut and paste from the description.
>>
>>55532120
Hmm okay

Download fonts and unzip it into a new folder in ~/.fonts/

https://github.com/google/fonts/archive/master.zip
>>
>Meanwhile in Arch
$packer -S typecatcher
>>
>>55532195
Thank you! Been asking this question for a while hahaha
>>
>>55532412
You are welcome. I hardly come to /fglt/. I guess I have to stick around then
>>
How can I make my terminal less "hacker"-looking so I can use it in public without being asked to leave?
>>
>>55532689
...post a picture of your current terminal
>>
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A couple of questions:

-Is there any reason for a normal user (not a server) to not use a rolling distribution? I'd just see "not having to ever reinstall your OS" as a huge boon.

-What advantages and disadvantages lie between Debian Testing/Sid vs Fedora Rawhide vs openSUSE Tumbleweed?

-How's KDE on Debian? I've never tried it and I'm kind of curious about it. Just been using GNOME
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>>55532706
>>
>>55532757
there's absolutely zero special with your terminal
You must live in an area with very stupid people
>>
>>55532746
-Bugs.
-Read the descriptions of each, packages for Testing spend a few days in Sid before they come over. Sid is rolling release Debian. I don't know about the others.
-Read the bug reports before updating KDE stuff if you're on Testing. For example, my notifications don't work anymore, as well as several applications. Stable will probably be fine.
>>
>>55532768
I (currently) live in Seattle where 90% of people haven't even seen a terminal outside of "le hacker person" in CSI. People see a black window with a monospace font and assume I'm up to something.
>>
>>55532839
try putting on a white background with default black text and highlights in different colors I guess?

Like literally just change your color scheme brah
>>
>>55532839
Grab the XP background and use that
If you're in public change to a white background terminal. besides being outside or indoors the glare is going to be ungodly on a back background
>>
Tried /sqt/ but should have put this here from the start. Can't I put GRUB + my Debian install on the same disk and boot gnu/linux only when I manually start with that drive? In the Debian install, default is to put GRUB on primary disk but I want the pc to boot on Win7 automatically.

I tried to install it that way (installing Debian on the whole disk then choosing that same disk for GRUB) twice but on both occasions, I get a blank screen with a flashing cursor like when GRUB starts but it just never does. Halp?
>>
>>55533035
You can change the order of boot options in the GRUB menu.
>>
>>55533104
But I need no menu at all, so I get quick boots.
>>
>>55533138
You can also set a (hidden) timeout for the menu.
>>
>>55533152
Will look into it, thanks
>>
Any of you fine folks using i3 and i3blocks?

If so, I could really use some inspiration from your config files. Specially the bar portion and your hotkeys, I'm looking for ideas. My setup feels kind of awkward right now.

Also, how do you have your compton set up?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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