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If requesting purchasing advice, please provide your country and what carrier you will be using it with, along with wanted features, budget and size.

Good resources:
>reviews, specs, comparisons
http://www.gsmarena.com
http://www.phonearena.com
http://www.kimovil.com

>Frequency checker
http://willmyphonework.net
http://frequencycheck.com

>Chinkphone news
http://www.gizchina.com
http://www.gizmochina.com

>Recommended Chinkphones $80-$300 as of March 2016
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Chink_shit_general/Phones

>Post a mini-review of your phone
>Discuss upcoming and current models
>Ask for help related to phones
>Tell us how much shekels you spent on good/bad phone
>Shill your Xiaomi
>PRAISE THE CHINKPHONES

News:
>Samsung Galaxy Note 7 renders leaked in three different colors
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_7_renders_leaked_in_three_different_colors-news-19166.php

>Xiaomi Mi Note 2 said to come with dual 12MP rear cameras, 4,000mAh battery
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_2_said_to_come_with_dual_12mp_rear_cameras_4000mah_battery-news-19148.php

>BlackBerry allegedly working on 3 new Android smartphones
http://www.androidauthority.com/blackberry-3-android-phones-701179/

>LG gives execs the boot and restructures mobile division following disappointing G5 sales
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/07/01/lg-gives-execs-boot-restructures-mobile-division-following-disappointing-g5-sales/

>ZTE Employee Hints at Unlocked Bootloader on Axon 7
https://www.xda-developers.com/recent-discussion-on-the-zte-forums-shows-promising-future-for-axon-7-users/#

>5.5-inch HTC Nexus phone codenamed Marlin has its specs leaked
http://www.gsmarena.com/55inch_htc_nexus_phone_codenamed_marlin_has_its_specs_leaked-news-19141.php

>Sony Xperia X Performance review: $700 worth of disappointment
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/01/sony-xperia-x-performance-review/
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>>55368975
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it was. I can send a email to myself from an alternate account, it shows up on my desktop client in seconds, but can take minutes to show up on an application. I honestly feel like there's some kind of play services or google syncing error I have.

>>55368991
K-9 works pretty great but it just feels clunky. It doesn't handle mails with pre-made folders like Gmail very well.
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Why aren't there any 16:10, 5-5.2" smartphones?
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So will the S8 actually have a 4k screen?
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>>55369032
>blackberry not making another high-end slider
the one phone i was looking forward to
ffs
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Convince me not to get an iPhone SE

>fastest phone money will buy
>longest battery life
>great camera
>software updates forever

$500 (64GB) isn't exactly cheap anymore, in the age of ChinkPhones and SharkCards, but it's a lot easier to swallow than full 'flagship' prices, which seem totally divorced from what these things cost to produce.
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>>55369636
It's a locked down brick with the same screen size as your penis when fully erect.
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>>55369618
hello cigo
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Good deal as a backup beater phone?
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>>55369636
>>longest battery life

xd

>>55369675
excellent work
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>>55369699
I'm sure you could find cheaper phones for that price, like those Amazon adshit phones, that ZTE boost one, or an old motorola for >140.

If you've already got a decent driver phone, you shouldn't need an older nexus.
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>>55369032
America - T-Mobile. I may switch later but for now thats whats up.

I've been using my Moto E (1st gen) for awhile and while it was OK when I rarely used my phone, it is showing its age. The touch screen is inaccurate and the phone randomly shuts off from time to time. I'd like to keep my next phone for the next 3-5 years so picking the right one is worth thinking about.

What I'm looking for:
-Android
-4.7-5.0 inch screen
-Support for T-Mobile band12 (building penetration)
-Newer than 2014 (power, battery life, tech, and band12 support as above)
-SD card support would be really nice
-NFC would be nice
-Best camera you can get for the money:

$150-$250

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S6 active off ebay for the active button, quick camera loading, good quality camera etc. I never got it unlocked but the seller was cool about the return so w/e. I can get one off swappa or ebay unlocked for roughly $250~. The phone doesnt support SD cards though so I'm taking the time to re-evaluate and hopefully find something similar but with SD card support.

Even at 5.1 inches the phone felt a bit big, I'd like to be able to run with it in my pocket.
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>>55369699
Aren't Moto Es dirt cheap now? Get one of those. Or just don't be a clumsy fuck and break your phone.
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>>55369724
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2011&nRamMin=1500&chkCardSlot=selected&fDisplayInchesMin=3.4&fDisplayInchesMax=5&nCamPrimMin=12&chkNFC=selected&s4Gs=12&sOSes=2
On GSMArena all I can find for those screen sizes are some sony phones, and the HTC m9 and A9 among a few others. Small screen sizes are pretty uncommon, and I'll warn you that the older HTC phones don't have a great camera.
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>LG G4 still has no bootloader unlock on most models

Good lord, I dodged a bullet on that one. Imagine if I chose to buy a G4 instead of the oneplus one back in 2015. It's scary just to think about.
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>>55369836
I have no idea what to upgrade from this thing to, before it bricks. Every phone is either expensive, chinkshit, or expensive chinkshit.
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>>55369857
Oh yeah, forgot about that too.

What a piece of shit the G4 is. Shame, it had a decent camera and nice industrial design + remov. bat.

Anyway, I recommend waiting for Sailfish/Marlin if you can.
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>>55369872
But I need that microSD. I'll wait to see them released before considering them.

Talk me out of getting a HTC10 or OP3, since apparently it's gotten some fixes.
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>>55369914
OP3 is decent since the sRGB update but it doesn't have an mSD slight, friendo.

The HTC 10 is good, but it's overpriced af right now (HTC are delusional and like to think their brand commands the same premium as Samsung/Apple).
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>>55369724
HTC One M9

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-6891.php
>Released 2015, March
>LTE band 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 7(2600), 12(700), 17(700) - T-Mobile
>Screen Size: 5.0 inches (~68.4% screen-to-body ratio)
>Resolution: 1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
>microSD, up to 256 GB (dedicated slot)
>NFC: Yes
>Price: Pic Related

Camera quality:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=6891&idPhone2=7576&idPhone3=6074

I'd look for one on ebay bruh, plenty to be found for tmobile at that price.
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>>55369928
Yeah, but at least you can get the OP3's 64GB without spending 550 like a fucking nexus 6p and its retarded huge screen. At least there's type-C mSD readers.

And yeah, HTC10 is overpriced as shit but hopefully they'll go down in price especially used soon. 500 new would be pretty reasonable for it.
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>>55369928
If I've been mostly okay with a 32GB phone with no SD, am I fine with 64GB?
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>>55369951
>overheating 810 shit
>shit display
>shit camera
>overpriced

no. The HTC One M8 is literally a superior device in every way and can be had for $200 or less. It also supports band 12.

>>55369964
What kind of question is that? You're the one who knows your storage needs, not us.
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>>55369985
explain how the m9's screen is shit. i'll give you 810, but everything else you've said sounds like bias bullshit.
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>>55369964
64 should honestly be the default, with the price of a 32GB if you're going to forgo a fucking mSD slot. Manufacturers are just jewing you into using their cloud shit as they pack 2GB of bloatware onto your phone that already uses 1/6th of the 32GB for system data.
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>>55369995
1st gen Moto X senpai, no bloat here :^)
unless you count the god-tier ambient display as bloat, is there any good replacement for that?
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What is the number one budget phone for under $80?
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>>55369994
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9102/the-htc-one-m9-review-part-1/3

It's trash.
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>>55370017
Considered a Moto X Pure, but I dunno if I trust Lenovo. Heard a lot about their shitty quality control. Hard to find a good powerful phone these days that is unlocked, works on most networks, and isn't overpriced.
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>>55370032
oh, so it's just a bunch of shit the average user will literally never notice? i'd understand if you were buying this for it's original retail price, but you're not. it's worth 200-250 now.
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Disregarding costs and storage, how does the OP3 compare with Galaxy S7?
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>>55370067
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>>55370060
>/g/
>the average user

Fuck off. Also, a mediocre calibration won't bother the average user. However the M9 is beyond mediocre, it's absolutely horrific. Even the dumbest normies will see what a shit display, by just the pathetic color temperature alone.
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>>55370081
>f/2.0
>2016

What were OP thinking?
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>>55370086
we're not all fucking art/video/photography majors who need the absolute most accurate fucking contrast and black levels. the fucking guy is asking for a recommendation for a fucking 250 dollar range phone, and the m8's screen isn't that fucking good either in comparison. you're a faggot.
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>>55370081
>dash charge tm doesn't work on any other roms
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what are the good apps?
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>>55370104
>we're not all fucking art/video/photography majors who need the absolute most accurate fucking contrast and black levels.

Stopped reading right there. Fuck off to the youtube comment section with your thought-terminating platitudes.

>the m8's screen isn't that fucking good either in comparison

It's significantly better, retard. The M8 also has a better SoC, better speakers (yep that's right, they downgraded the speakers in the M9 too) and far better battery life.

Kill yourself and don't post in /spg/ again.
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Is there really no option for a poorfag Canadian?
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thoughts on the galaxy a5?
how is it with resurection remix? any tips to save batery?
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>>55370109
it's fucking dumb, i know, but you have to admit their end product is always enticing for the price.

but for a company who's motto is "never settle" there's literally always something that you need to compromise on.

>oneplus one
>no sd
>oneplus 2
>no fucking nfc
>oneplus x
>micro sd! but no fast charge, or nfc
>oneplus 3
>dash charge!*
>no micro sd
>dash charge only works with proprietary cable and charger
>dash charge only works with oxygen OS

it's always something.

>>55370125
>stopped reading right there
>keeps reading

no. you're a faggot.
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>>55370109
they're making the dash charge API available later on
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>>55370189
Any idea how long? By that point I'm probably going to sell for phone cash.
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>>55370218
http://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3-dash-charging-explained-coming-to-your-custom-rom-sometime-after-july/

"Some time after July".

So probably 2-3 months. That's about how long it'll take for stable AOSPA MM builds anyway.
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>>55370238
Interesting. Hopefully they don't fuck it up, since I'd much prefer to use a custom rom for a phone like that.
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>>55370257
They already released device tree and kernel source, so the ROM scene for OP3 should be just as good as the OPO (far better than the OP2's sad scene).

It even has ElementalX kernel support, one of the best custom kernels around (previously only on HTC and Nexus devices).
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>>55370041
Yeah, Lenovo getting a hold of Motorola was the worst news I've heard in tech.
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>not buying an OP3
lmao
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>>55370743
Give me five reasons to pick it over the Priv
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Are there any Xiaomi Redmi 3s (Pro) reviews out yet? Can't find any in non Asian languages.
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>>55370179
every company does this bud
>galaxy s5
sd card
>galaxy s6
no sd card
added IR blaster
>galaxy s7
sd card
removed ir blaster

and that's just a tiny example on the top of my head, there are obv more specs to note that I couldn't be bothered rn, my point is everyone does it so I wouldn't sorry blame oneplus for it
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>>55370844
fuck that. i absolutely blame oneplus for it.

no one would mind shelling out 450+ for this exact same phone with a micro sd slot and all the specs already on it. 500+ for a non shit screen and DAC. they have the capability, they just choose to cut corners.

oneplus could be a fucking flagship company, keep their "flagship killer" low price phones, whilst also having it's own like of premium phones that stick with the unlocked bootloader philosophy, and they would make a fucking buttload off people of every budget. that's their own fault.
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>>55369872
>decent camera
It still beats the HTC 10, iPhone 6s and the S6
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Is there anything like iMessage on android now that lets me send texts from a PC and a Mac? I want to get away from this fucking thing but iMessage is the only thing keeping me in their walled garden.
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>>55370743
>1080p pentile on 5.5"
>2016

lmao
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>>55370760
Better camera
Better GPU
Significantly lighter
Prettier (subjective)
x2 more RAM
Dash charge
USB type-c
Super Amoled vs Amoled
Significantly more expensive for an inferior product
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>>55370953
Nice meme reddit.
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United States
AT&T
$400
Physical keyboard
Capacitive buttons
Made within the last two years
No more than 5.5"
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>>55371078
We get it, you're retarded, why do you ask us to convince you when you're already set to buy that piece of crap? Fuck off
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>>55370942
>Is there anything like iMessage on android now that lets me send texts from a PC and a Mac

nope

nothing as clean as imessage

shame they dont just release an imessage app for android
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>>55370942
Airdroid maybe. You basically tether your phone through a network connection and it allows you to control several of its functions, the most useful one in my opinion being sending and receiving texts.
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>>55371211
hm, that looks like it could work. Probably won't work over my enterprise network at work though. I'll have to look into how it functions.
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>>55371273
https://www.airdroid.com/apk/help/2.0/index.html

You can use a USB cable to tether directly to the computer as well.
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>>55370974
>pentile apologist

Doesn't get any more reddit than this. Hell you're not even reddit, you're Facebook.
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>>55371417
>no you
Nice argument.
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>>55370942
Telegram?
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>tfw no android phone with nokia lumia hardware
life sucks
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>>55371549

dont you have to have an account for that? i need something i can talk to nomies with.
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>>55370743
>Falling for the meme
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Anyone else tried out Gboard on iOS?
It's quite brilliant when you forget it's literally handing personal info over with every keystroke.
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HTC 10 64gb. Is it a rumour, or only available in certain regions? Can't seem to get it anywhere.
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I want a z5 compact and I can get one for a good price. Is the 810 in it really that bad?
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>ordered galaxy s7
>gonna arrive on Monday by DPD

Now to find somewhere to sell my old phone.
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Why is there no sandstone back on the OP3
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>>55372178
>DPD
Fuckin hate these assholes.
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>>55372577
How come?
In the UK, they're the best couriers available.
Live tracking of the van via google maps, so you know if you can go have a shit or not.
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>>55372228
But there is, anon. You can buy the original OnePlus™ Sandstone™ backcover for only 29.99$
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>>55372593
Live tracking is nice, indeed, but the drivers are complete assholes. At least in my region.
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Is the zenfone 2 a good deal at 195 euro?
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>>55372178
enjoy your nonexistent battery :/
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>>55372920
I thought the Exynos version had better battery?
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>>55372920
>>55372953
Also anything is better than the 2 hour screen time I get on my One M8.
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convince me that Xiaomi Mi4c isn't the best 5" phone and the one most worth buying right now
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Thoughts on the umi super?
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>>55369675
/thread for apple fanboys
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I need to buy a phone for my mother.

So far I've been looking into Moto X (2nd gen), sony Xperia M4 aqua (both 209 euros) and Motorola moto G (3rd gen) 159 euros.

Leaning towards Sony since it has better battery than Moto X.

Which one would you recommend? And I live in Eastern Europe, so nor crazy Amazon, ebay or newegg deals.
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>>55372953
He's being retarded. S7 Exynos has godly battery life.
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Through about the Motorola X Play?
The battery seems to be its forte but what about the rest?
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>>55372993
or at least confirm it for me
pls

I've also considered Nexus 5x (waaay more expensive) and Redmeme 3 Pro (a bit shittier specs tho cheaper)
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Looking at the Axon Pro.
Opinions.
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>>55373246
Where are you located? If you're in the US just avoid chinkphones unless you don't need reliable mobile data.
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Does V4A do anything if you only install the audio driver and enable it, without touching the equalizers or any of the other settings?

picture unrelated - I'm posting it just to make this post slightly more visible
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How many phones do you really need?
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>>55374050
One per pocket.
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>>55374050
If you're a normal person, one should be more than enough.

I use one of my older android phones as a music player, it lasts almost a whole week with my usage, and a redmi 3 as my main.
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What's the best keyboard for Android or iOS? Is typing better than swiping for efficiency? Help a total smartphone newfag out. Thanks.
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Are there any current phones with 16:10 ratio displays?
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From UK
Currently with Three
Upgrade this month but already got a Galaxy Note 4.
Can't be iPhone because I'm a Samsung fan-boy and the S7 is too much £pm.
Any advice on what phone can I upgraded too from a Note 4?
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>>55374465
How much are you looking to pay?
Cause Three do £30 a month, no upfront cost for 1gb of data for an S7 on new contracts.

Try phoning them when your upgrade is due and ask what the best upgrade you can get is, then say you can get it cheaper elsewhere and they should put you through to retentions who can nearly always match other deals.
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Is moto 3g with 1GB ram enought for a person who will most likely will be only doing calls, taking some pictures and sending SMS from time to time? I mean, now companies put like 3-4 GB of ramin their devices.
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>>55374603
Yes.
You only need like 256mb of ram for that.

Moto G3 is a great budget phone from last year. It'll do what you want and more.
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>>55369032
>ZTE Axon 7
So this is the new meme phone yeah?
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>>55374631
I'm looking for a first smartphone for my mother. Either Motorola or Sony m4 aqua. However, latter one gets raped by Motorola in speed tests despites having 2 gb of ram and better processor. And it's more expensive by more than 50 eurodollars.
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>>55374637
meme 7 when?
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>>55374803
do we know anything about other colors?
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>>55374555
I've been with Three for maybe 5 years now and am currently paying £31 a month for unlimited everything.
I think the phone with that plan is an iPhone5 but to cut a long story short I bought the Note4 on eBay about a year ago and I use the sim with unlimited everything in the Note4. The iPhone is somewhere in New Zealand haha.
When I was in store they said I use about 2gb a month so a 3gb or 4gb plan might be best depending on what's available. I don't send huge amounts of texts or spend hours on the phone so I'm not too fussed about that.
The S7 is pretty tempting but they said it would be about £43pm if I wanted it.
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>>55374941
The phone retention team can pretty much always get you a better deal.
Cause dropping the tariff from £43 to £30 a month, is better than losing the customer and £30 a month.
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How awful is xperia M4 aqua, specially for light 3d aplications? Emulatior and heartstone.
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>>55375175
I'm this >>55374694 guy and it seems really slow on all video reviews and comparisons.
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>>55374975
Alright thanks for your help.
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>>55369032
>Axon 7 only seems to support one band LTE in the US
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>>55369032
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Is nexus 6p actually good, or is it just google shilling chinkphones?
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>buying oneshit 3
>buying samshit 3
>not buying a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro if poorfag
>not buying a Xiaomi Mi5
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Is the OUKITEL K6000 a trash phone?

Has seemingly everything I want
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Huawei P8 or LG Nexus 5X?
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my Nexus5 died last night, the USB-port started smelling like it was on fire and didnt charge anymore, then the battery died.

What do? Nexus 6P looks delicisous.
Other recommendations til ~450/500€? I'd like a nice camera, don't need mSD.
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>>55375565
>buying gookshit with no support
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>tfw you want to buy the OP3 but its shit
>tfw you want to buy the RN3P but its a brick
>tfw you want to buy the R3P but SD616
Fucking rice munching gooks.
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>>55369636
see pic related
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>>55375533
Mostly shills. The lack of a microsd slot is excruciatingly painful especially as 320 and 400GB microsd cards come into existence.
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>>55372006
>iOS
>>>/fa/
>>>/lgbt/
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Memeing aside, how good is Nexus 5x?

95% of the time will be internet browsing, and 5% some mild 3d games. Specially emulators.

Does it heat up / run out of memory constantly? I had a Xperia SP, it would crash sometimes, specially if i played hearthstone, but overall could handle it, and it was a 1Gb RAM and a snapdragon S4 phone.
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>>55375959
It doesn't have a microsd slot, you really really shouldn't get it. See pic related.
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Should I upgrade from my one plus one, I just want great battery life and a great camera. My one plus is on Paranoid Android 6.0.1 and the battery life is good, but the signal keeps disconnecting or something cause I'm getting 5 and a half hours SOT but can't make it through a full day
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>>55370942
Airdroid
Mightytext
Pushbullet
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how do i know if a chinkphone works well in my country?
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>>55369608
Because it's a shitty obsolete aspect ratio
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Can anybody explain why some phones don't have SD slots? How fucking expensive could that shit even be
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>>55375979

Hardware wise is my greatest question, though.

How does it handle multy tab browsing and 3d games?
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>>55376053
>Can anybody explain why some phones don't have SD slots?
Because phone manufacturers want to cuck you to death

>How fucking expensive could that shit even be
Not very, that microsd slot is really fucking tiny and probably costs 1$ at most for the manufacturer.
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>>55376062
>How does it handle multy tab browsing and 3d games?
Just about as good as any Android phone with a microsd slot. Listen microsd cards are getting cheap as fuck, you don't want to miss out when a 200GB microsd card goes on sale for ~$50 this black friday. Hell that 256GB microsd card samsung just releasef might drop to $100 in 2017.
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>>55376027
Read the damn OP

>Frequency checker
http://willmyphonework.net
http://frequencycheck.com
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>>55373981
yuropoor actually, should be okay with Xiaomi afaik. (more specifically, spain, slovakia and czech rep., it depends)
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what is a non-chink alternative to a redmi note 3 pro?
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>>55376753
Galaxy S7
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>>55376753
Galaxy S7
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>>55376197
Those countries are full of poor people you should be fine.
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>The US capable version of the Huawei P8 costs $200~300 more
reeee
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>>55369872
>>55369928
Should I trade in my G4 for a HTC 10?

Verizon is doing $300 towards new phone if you trade in a G4 (among others). So it would be $350 over 24 months and I would get $25 off each month for using Verizon Edge.
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>>55377425
Fuck yes
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>>55377579
Ok neat thanks, now I just need to find a store with it in stock and mail it to that guy to unlock/root
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>>55377656
>and mail it to that guy to unlock/root
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>>55377703
>tfw $43 + tip
dang
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Best phone for US use? T-Jewgle, need that lte
Budget $350
1080p + 3gb ram are prefered
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>>55377840
>budget
>$350
Are you retarded?
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>>55377872
His budget is $350
not a budget phone for $350 you illiterate fuck.
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I currently have a Xperia z3 but I want to upgrade in the near future due to "muh quality selfie camera" and that is pretty much it. Any advice?
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>>55377899
I'll go sit in a corner right now.
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>>55377942
S7 is pretty much the best phone on the market right now
but heres an article with a few more.

http://www.androidauthority.com/best-phone-for-selfies-694396/

HTC 10 is also good, Nexus 6p would be a good cheaper phone than the S7/HTC 10
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>>55378017
I heard it's not built with quality parts that last... Also, does it even have expandable memory?
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My Smart Ultra 6 has a broken headphone jack (again - second one with same fault) so Amazon are refunding me the £100. Just ordered a Moto G4 for £160. Did I fuck up, /spg/?
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>>55378034
The S7?
Yes, up to 256gb.
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>T-Mobile selling the 128GB Galaxy S6 Edge for $340.
>Try to order it at 1 AM. Get to the end, required to call them
>"We're sorry. We are closed. Try again during business hours."
>Wake up at noon
>Call again. "Sorry, it's $500 now. That deal was just for yesterday. Why didn't you order it then?"
>mfw

Why the fuck would a company advertise a deal like that on their website after hours, knowing full well it's impossible for anyone to actually receive said item?

But moving on, what comparable phones (not Chinese) are similarly priced, /spg/?
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Is there really no way to root an s5 active on f02? No downgrade, root, then upgrade type shenanigans?
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How much ROM support can I count on if I get a qualcomm xiaomi?
I don't need 30000 pajeet ROMs like the nexus phones, just a CM port or maybe PA whenever a new version of Android comes out.
thanks
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So, I'm going to Japan for a full year in a few months.

I need to get a phone that works on both NTT-Docomo's network and Ting(GSM) in America.

What's the best way to figure out whats for me?

I honestly don't care too much about features as long as its not a dinosaur.

Currently looking at a Huawei P9 as the best thing I've found so far.

Any other suggestions?
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Zuk Z2 @ $299
Coupon Code : ZUKZ230

http://www.oppomart.com/zuk-z2.html

Good deal for those looking at a SD820 and a sensible 5". pretty sure that's the cheapest SD820 you can get atm as well.
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>>55372101
No, it is not.
It will become hot pretty quickly, but if you're ok with that, buy it.

Good phone overall.
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Is there any way to remove the google botnets from android ?
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>>55378605
Install CM.
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I got a huawei honor 5x earlier this year. I am having trouble charging the phone in my car. I have two chargers one rated at 2.1 amps and the other at 1 amp. These are not enough to charge the phone under load like running google maps and syncing music with bluetooth. I am considering getting a type c usb charger that provides 3 amps. Is this suggested?
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>>55378624
doesn't work you need a google account
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>>55378660
lolwut?
>>
>>55378680
you need a google account for playstore
>>
>>55377840
s-someone
>>
What's the best Android phone you can get that's easily rootable? Looking to replace my crapped out Z3.
>>
>>55369724
xperia z3 compact. DO NOT go for the z5 compact, is a piece of shit.
>>
>>55378874
basically everything except samsung phones,
if i was you i would buy a moto or a nexus
>>
>>55372101
fingerprint reader is quite stupid and yes it does overheat, but right now it's the best 4.7 phone. Not to say the only fucking one
>>
>>55372993
4g bands
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>>55373225
go for the moto x, i have the g3, it's good but nothing outstanding, less powerfull. M4 had overheating problems and shit battery life
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>>55375565
Only the note 3 pro has one band that works on T-Mobiles lte. Mi5 doesn't work at all. Your chink shit is trash bro
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>>55377840
>>55378845
Bro. Literally anything. There's so much to choose from at that price. OnePlus one, half the phones on T-Mobiles site itself, just look.
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>>55379123
T-Mobile phones a shit and I don't want something with 2gb and 720
>>
Where do you phones think will be in 5 years time?

In terms of performance, display, storage, cameras, etc
>>
>>55374025
no, it doesn't, which version are you using and which phone?
>>55374296
swiftkey, first type and when the keyboard learns how you write, swype
>>55374694
i have the 2gb version, if you can get that, perfomance improves, if not it does what you want amazingly well
>>55375175
just don't, fucking shit phone
>>55375671
p8
>>55375820
galaxy s6


>>55378470
GOD DAMN THATS TEMPTING but i'm wating because i don't know if z2 pro is a better bang for the buck than z2
>>55378753
come on, don't be a faggot just download from f-droid, aptoide, xda labs or even the direct apks.


So, in /g/'s opinion, does the ZUK z2 deserve the hype? i mean, it's the only non 5.5 inch afforadble flagship with an 820.
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>>55379183
Mi5 is also around that price now.
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I have had a 16gb Nexus 4 since 2012 and lately it's screen has been becoming non responsive in certain parts. Dropped it earlier today and now a dead touch zone popped up on the right side of the screen. The screen also sometimes doesn't want to turn on forcing me to have to hard reset the phone.

Want to start looking into a replacement for it but want to keep the budget hopefully under $150 but I'm willing to pay up to 200 for a phone. Mostly used the nexus for music and photos and browsing 4chan on the go. Was thinking of just getting a refurbished Nexus 4 but I dunno about refurbished phones. Carrier I use is currently AT&T.

Something that doesn't have an awful battery might be nice too.
>>
Next nexuses when? Are they going to be worth the wait? I have pretty beaten up 1+1 currently, anxiously waiting for a worthy upgrade

>>55375979
tell me

I have an unlimited 4G connection. I run a homeserver with terabytes of hdd space in a raid array. I have openvpn set up for my phone.

Why do I need more than 32gb of storage on my phone? I'd much rather not have anything sensitive on my phone.
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>>55379241
yup, just checked, not bad at all. Unfourtunately in my country LTE bands won't work, whereas zuk do
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>>55379252
used 1+1 is still a pretty good phone. I haven't had the need to replace my 2-year-old $299 1+1, even though I'm kinda looking for a new phone. I woudn't need to, though, I just want to.

Good rom scene, okayish battery life (1,5 days easily), easy to replace screen.

Shitty customer service but you probably could do without, eh?
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>>55372038
Not USA, kinda silly IMO
>>
>>55375570

I have the K6000 pro and it's pretty great for everyday stuff, and like 2.5 days battery with normal use. Pull the trigger, bro
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>>55377840
>>55378845
>>55378470
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>>55375570
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/07/review-oukitel-k6000-pro.html
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>>55379454
Well, it has a microSD at least so it shouldn't be a that much of a problem. Still, the 32GB version should NOT be $600+.
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>>55379483
I'd like to have Band 12 as well.
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>>55379495
>>55377840
http://www.oppomart.com/letv/max2/le-max-2.html

- 5.7-inch Quad HD 2K screen, 2560x1440 pixels
- 2.15GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor
- 21 megapixel Sony Exmor RS IMX230 camera
- 4GB/6GB RAM, 64GB storage
- Support 4G FDD-LTE network

You'll need this though:
https://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Audio-Converter-Cable-Apple/dp/B00OMMI2DE/ref=sr_1_3?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1467488351&sr=1-3&keywords=usb+to+3.5
>>
>>55379568
The missing audio jack kills this phone
>>
Should I get the next nexus or note7?
>>
Honor 5C (a.k.a. Honor 7 Lite ) or OP3?

Is Huawei good generally speaking?
>>
Moto G4 review
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_moto_g4-review-1458.php
>>
which is the least flawed phone? which is the best phone?
>>
Anywhere to get the Huawei P9 Lite VNS-L53 ? Its the one that works in the US but I cant find it.
>>
how do i get over the feeling that all smartphones are redundant
>>
>>55380671
by having a social life
>>
Given the option to trade you Galaxy Note 5 for a like new Galaxy S6 or paying $250 insurance deductible to fix your shattered screen what would you choose?

Replacement parts for screen are $165 so not worth replacing myself.
>>
I am probably gonna buy a Nexus 5x or a Galaxy S6

convince me to buy one or the other. I am leaning towards the S6 because of its supposed better build quality
>>
>>55380777
I'd go for the s6 then sell it and spend the extra 250 towards the note 7 later.
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>>55380799
Both have shit battery life and no micro sd card. S6 is faster and isn't stuck with 2GB ram so get that I guess.
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>>55379741
Can't tell about all Huawei but Honor devices are good. Been using honor 6 wihtout any problems for more than a year. Still get around 5 hour sot.
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>>55369032
order these three in terms of botnet (least to most)
blackberry, android, IOS
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>>55380993
android, blackberry ios
>>
Is there a phone with the following
>good battery
>physical keyboard
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>>55380593
Apparently released in May, but I see 0 places, ebay included, selling it.
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>>55381041
there are phones with one of either, but not both
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>>55379163
They will be implanted in our asses and you will fart to answer the phone.
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>>55377703
>paying to root/unlock anything

Unless you need to solder something to the device, don't, even dumb pajeets and pedros can root smartphones easily, are you telling me you're dumber than them?
>>
>>55381375
lol not everyone is poor
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>>55381439
lol not everyone is tech illiterate
>>
>>55381439
Why pay for something you can do yourself in 5 minutes? If you're going to be like that then you might as well sell that shit and buy the latest iphone.
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>>55369032
>late 2015 flagship
>upgrade from LG G4
>absolute god tier camera
>219 neetbux
I had to buy one. So glad I didn't fall for the RN3P meme
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>>55381548
also
>Quickcharge
>Removable battery
>microSD card slot
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>>55381548
Pretty fucking good deal m8.
>>
>>55381375
>>55381495
You can't root/unlock the Verizon HTC 10. Literally only one person knows how to do it.
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>>55378262
Buy Robohon there. Cute AF, can walk and talk just like in your animays.
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>>55380593
someone?
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>>55381548
V10 a shit. my friend has one, and its been nothing but bullshit through 3 different phones, headphone jack a shit, charging port a shit, and the screen tracks as bad as an iPhone 5c.

the sound quality on calls isn't that great either, or is reception. even on verizon.
>>
is T-Mobile the most /g/ approved carrier? Seems like they have the most laid back policies.
>>
>>55381873
angry Xiaomifag detected
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>>55381902
>buyers remorse already setting in
kek. KYS, gook.
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my first smartphone - Xiaomi Redmi 3 Pro Prime should arrive on monday

fuckers caught it at the border and I most likely will have to pay VAT(20%) though no tariff
but thats roughly the same as DHL shipping would cost

when I ordered smsl amp it just went through... hoped I would got lucky again

anyway, seems to be a solid phone for 140€
4100mAh battery on a 720p screen should give me comfortable battery life, thats why I went for it and not the redmi note 3 with 1080p

One of the reasons I stuck to a dumb phone was seeing people around me hunting for usb plugs through out the day, EVERY fucking day, it seems insane to me...
I am hoping for 3 days with my low usage
other stats are 3GB ram, fingerprint sensor, whole metal mody, microSD,... pretty alright for the price IMO
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>>55382014
>4100mAh battery on a 720p screen should give me comfortable battery life, thats why I went for it and not the redmi note 3 with 1080p
Ummmm
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>>55382093
not sure what you are ummming

thats redmi note 3 in the graph
I went for redmi 3
smaller display, same battery
reports say there should be even longer battery life than already exceptional 5.5" redmi note 3
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Hey /g/ how do I root my very specific android device?
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>>55369699
it's very comfy
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>>55375820
Can you buy a cheap phone now and wait for the Nextus?
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>>55375959
It should be fine for browsing, but don't expect miracles out of it in terms of heavy emulation.
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>>55369636
I just got mine set up yesterday. Came from an iphone 5. It's the same thing, but faster. 10/10 if you don't need filesystems on your phone.
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>>55378532
I got it for $200, seems to work pretty well. I tried to stress it and it doesn't really seem to get hotter than my other phone.
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>>55379284
In a few months, October the latest
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>>55380593
pls respond
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>>55383045
might be some time until the Nextus comes down to the price the 6P is at now, and it's most definitely gonna start at flagship-price, right?
I'm not unwilling to spend more because I'd need to save up, the 450/500€ mark with a tendency towards 450€ is just where it stops being worth it for a phone for me.

So I figured might aswell invest now, since the price is fine-ish for me and the specs too.
Who knows what the next Nexus is gonna be.

Unless you meant for me to actually wait for the 6P to fall in price (and not really the Nextus), then I'm not sure, by that point the 6P will have aged even more, and at that point why buy anythign since the next upgrade/pricedrop is kinda 'right around the corner'?
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> Verizon Sales Rep/ Samsung Affiliate Program Partner

Im Obviously Samsung biased but all the other shit (with few exceptions) sucks shit. Fro mwhat iv seen heres the case (with verizon but most carriers have the same shit anyway so W/E)

> Apple:
Its all shit, ive had a number of brande fucking new SE's come out of the box broken.

> Blackberry:
Have sold one Priv out of our store since launch.

> HTC:
M7 ok, M8 - Current all trash.

> LG
G2 was ok, G3/4 are probaby on fire at all times, v10 i just lame compared to the note 5
> MFW the G5 i actualy decent and kind of cool

> Motorola: Best signal quality out of everybody
Turbo 2 is nice but the screen flickers and the fast charger burns out the usb port, the Moto Z/Force should be a monster. FUck the maxx 2.

> Samsung: Great phones with too much bloat. Easily fixable with package disabler pro and Nova Pro. The note 5 is better than mostly everything. Samsung gave me the S7 Edge and its such a meme level phone. They just made the thing curved cause they could.
>>
>>55381548
Prepare for dissapointment. Its plastic fantastic and cant beat the note. But the dual camera thing is cool
>>
>>55383496
So what can you tell us about the Note 7?
>>
>>55381041

Priv/Passport
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>>55376033
16:9 is only for for watching videos
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>>55382014
I'm in the same situation. Thinking about finally getting my first smartphone.
Still thinking about which i should get, though.
Redmi 3/Pro/S, RN3P or OP3, or maybe the ZUK Z2?
Where did you order it? I live in Germany but have people in poland and netherlands who could forward a package for me.
>>
Any opinions on the Moto G4 plus?
Looks like a good bye at $250.
My current phone is an iPhone 5s and this seems like an upgrade in every way.
>>
>>55383597
Zuk Z2>OP3>RN3P>R3SP>R3P.
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>>55383496
This guy.

Dude, so I'm bailing on Verizon because they fucked me.

A rep quoted and signed a confirmation that my bill would be $150/month after taxes. Ended up being $275.

Rep told me that Verizon would send me a box for my old phone for them to pay off my previous bill, and my old phone agreement. They didn't, no one in the store will help me, and Verizon phone reps tell me they're going to send me a box and then fucking don't.

Thanks verizon.
>>
>>55383777
>contracts
>>
how much do you guys recon the blackberry mercury will cost
>>
>>55382014
>VAT(20%)
They bumped it from 17.5%? When did that happen?
>>
>>55383496
>sold one priv
so uh
what's bad about it?
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hey guys can we talk about plans for a minute.

1. can i get a smartphone with only a talk and text plan. id like to use it only with wifi and not data.

2. whats the cheapest monthly phone plan for a single person that you guys know of? could i possibly get something for like 10$ a month talk and text only?
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>>55383521
>caring about whether the phone is plastic
I don't understand this. Wouldn't a plastic frame help to reduce shock/fall damage?
>>
>>55378195
An official CM build, my note 3 pro has an official cm build, it works like a charm.
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Where my Note 7 niggas at? One more month. I have some reservations about leaving my Note 4 behind but I'm itching for an upgrade
>>
>>55383597
Get the LG V10
>better specs than RN3P
>more reliable (no chinkshit sellers or build quality)
>>
>>55383807
this. Contracts are for cuckholds.
>not joining the /g/ approved T-Mobile master race
>100 minutes, Unlimited SMS/MMS, and 5gb of LTE for $30/mo
>>
Considering buying a OP3
How's the build? I'm pretty skeptical about chinks and their skimping, and I doubt their customer service would be any good
>>
Just bought a lumia 650 the other day. Windows 10 added some neat features to windows phone.
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L-lewd HTC 10 blinkfeed
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>>55384293
T-mobile is dogshit though, their coverage is shit and networks speeds are also shit.

Just get a boost plan. The $30/month plan grows to 5GB of high speed data over time and includes unlimited minutes for talking from the get-go. Also not sure if t-mobile has this but boost gives you mobile hotspot for free, it uses high speed data and you can buy as much as you need for $5/1GB
>>
>>55384624
>things that aren't true the post
>>
>>55372593
Vouch for this guy DPD are a dream, the text message you a time slop at the start of the day.

The last DHL order came a day early so I missed it, sat in the next day for redelivery and it never showed up, rang them up the next day repeatedly(on a premium number) where they said they couldnt account for it and it went missing because the package was small. Told the seller I bought off and they dealt with it all and I got a refund.

Never had a prob with DPD
>>
Which would be the best option: Galaxy s6 vs zuk z2, considering the s6 refurbished comes at 350 bucks
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>>55384680
What part isn't true? Isn't that why t-mobile is begging people to use their shitty networks at such a low price?

Not really sure why anyone would use t-mobile. In my experience lte was 1-2mbps IF it worked that day and 3G was basically dial-up speeds but at least it worked most of the time.

I switched to boost about a year ago from t-mobile and constantly get speeds like in pic related.
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>>55384810
I get faster speeds, decent coverage and great prices
>>
>>55384778
>>55384824
Zuk Z2.
SD820, 4GB RAM, bigger battery.
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>>55382140
The RN3 is the 5.5'', Snapdragon 650 variant. Battery life is superb as the chip is efficient and a beast.

Waiting on it myself, ordered Friday and apparently sent Saturday. No DHL and no tracking so a nervous wait but I cant wait for my first smartphone since the original iPhone
>>
>>55384253
My S3 is turning into lava, I hope this thing comes in a flat screen version or I will have burned my fingers in vain
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When the axon 7 coming out?

It's suppose to come out last month. Also why does Europe gets it first, reeeeeee
>>
>>55385142
eh? I heard last week Europe was at the end of the year.

So happy I can just enjoy a RN3 for a while and then jump back in next year when a shitload of these SD820 phones have been out for a while and I can pick up the pieces.

Its a horrible time to look at new phones at the moment, theres been a gap open up that needs time to be evaluated properly
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>>55382014
>140€
Where did you buy it?
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>>55384075
Look into Project Fi. $20 for unlimited talk/text, and they refund data not used. If you don't use data, then no data charge essentially. With the added benefit that if you ever do need data you have it available.

Downside is they only support the Nexus 5x and 6p right now. Upside is the 5x is $150 off if you get it through them.
>>
>>55369032
Dang it didn't see the general. Reposting my thread here:

What's the best and cheapest chinese androne? I've been using BB10 since release day but now that BB has abandoned me I want to find something else.

I want:
NFC, 3GB+ RAM (really I just don't want lag), 1080p screen and good battery. I've looked at the Honor 6, Elephone P9000 and S3. Mi5 is nice but too expensive. I don't want a Oneplus.


I already know 4g won't work on my carrier for these devices. I don't really care.
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>>55385414
Redmi note 3 pro, zuk z2 or z2 pro
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Anyone have a sony xperia z5 premium and test it with VR?

>dat 806 PPI
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>>55385469
note 3 pro is great but no nfc.... the Z2 pro is too expensive
>>
>>55385551
Shit didn't knew that, Why not the OP3? Or if anything else fails, maybe an older flagship like the moto x play
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Get a load of this, lads.
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>>55378896
What's wrong with the Z5?

I was looking at the Z3C for myself because the boosted specs in the Z5 aren't worth it for my usage habits, but it didn't look bad either.
>>
>>55384233
It would but some retards prefer to show off their phones collection of dents and finger marks
>>
>55385612
Get a G2 instead for 175 AUD. It has Slim6 support. HTC Sense ROMs stopped being updated long ago, and AOSP ROMs on the M7 are awful (terrible battery, overheating, etc).
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sup, /spg/, im a newbie at smarthphones, is the OP1 good? or is it a meme?
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>>55385695
It's great, cheap now, passable camera, excellent battery life, decent display, easy to teardown/repair

Throw Sultan's CM13 on there as soon as you get it
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>>55385695
It is and will always be considered one of the best smartphones ever so yeah, dont bother with the OP2 or OP3.
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What is the best budget smart phone right now?
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>>55385926
IPhone plus 6s
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>>55372038
see >>55379454

But it has a feature where you can link onboard storage to sd storage to make one virtual partition so you don't have to deal with choosing what to put where.
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>>55385634
The snapdragon 810 overheats and makes 4k recording a nightmare. Although updates have helped it, the z3c it's still better in most fields
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>>55370942
Line
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redpill me on iphone 6 vs galaxy s6, gonna be upgrading soon and these are what i'm stuck between
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Is there any reason I shouldn't buy a new Moto E? Ontario, Canada with Rogers. Only using it to take pictures during day, send text, sometimes call, use waze, play music, and other basic Android stuff. It's replacing my combo of a BB 9900, Nexus 7, and ipod Nano.
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>>55386073 (you)
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>>55385926
ZTE Warp Elite, it's on sale for $74 on amazon right now.
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>>55385988
I love my Z3, but taking a lot of pictures with it gets it hotter than anything else, even games.
Hell it would get almost too hot to touch, which is why I think the glue started to melt. This also caused the screen to loosen.
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Excuse me but if I root and install AOSP 5.1 on my xiaomi redmeme 3 I bought from gearbest does this void the warranty? And is my warranty worth worrying about?
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>>55383987
Nothing. The general public has never heard of it so there's low demand. Everyone that sees mine loves it. They can't believe blackberry made something like this and then they get all sentimental about the good ol days. With the right pricing and promotion on their next two devices blackberry could start to turn around their hardware department.
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>>55386441
I was fucking kicking myself for not taking up the ebay $299 USD deal but i was a NEET and got a chinkphone instead. Now it is $399 USD.
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What's the state of custom ROMs like on the HTC 10?
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>>55386473
It'll be back at $299 or somewhere around there soon, it was at $349 a week before.
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What is the absolute cheapest brand new android phone that can run whatsapp and browse internet.

Bonus points if it can do that and have cyanogen or replicant support
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>>55386529
yeah I think I'll just wait for their new phone. This chink shit is probably going to die on me sometime soon.
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>>55386619
Alright, but the next one with a keyboard is 4.5" and midrange.
I'm actually really happy with the former, but how does the 625 compare to the 808?
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>>55369636
I won't. That is literally the best iPhone design there is. No smooth, rounded edges will top that. Beautiful piece.
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Hey plebs, should I buy a Vertu phone to shit all over apple fanboys and galaxies?
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>>55386550
Wileyfort Swift if you're in Europe
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>>55386700
Wileyfox*, fuck me
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>>55386700
I am in europe. Is this gud?
https://www.amazon.de/Wileyfox-Spark-Dual-SIM-Smartphone-Speicher/dp/B01HG00K1U
How is the battery life?
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>>55386699
yes, get a fucking leaf imo
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>>55386727
No idea, it was announced just a few days ago. Doubt you'll have any problems if all you're going to do is web browsing and Whatsapp though
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when does Android get a phone like the iPhone SE?
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>>55386502
good as long as it's not verizon
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>>55386890
You CAN get access to bootloader on the Verizon though
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>>55386973
You can, but it's not a popular phone and only a handful of people are going to have an unlocked bootloader. Makes more sense to just buy a US unlocked and convert it to Verizon and having to mail it to some random dude.
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>>55386803
their smartphones suck though, not much difference from regular smartphone.

Their keyphones are where its at. Pure class.

And risky to carry.
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>>55386992
>Makes more sense to just buy a US unlocked and convert it to Verizon
Really, how? I thought the CDMA was usually built in.
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>>55387016
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/guide-convert-unlocked-to-verizon-t3380615
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>>55387027
Interesting stuff. Though for me it'd depend on price, if I found a cheaper 10 in Verizon's model, I'd rather send for that unlocking service and not have to deal with some of those potential issues. Good stuff though, hoping the HTC10 price drops soon.
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Why do you think of the HP elite x3? I'm excited that a new Windows Phone is finally coming out but I don't know of the phone will be good or not.
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>>55369636
I just traded in my 6 for a 6s+. Having mixed feelings about the sheer size of this shit. My dainty girl-like hands just can't hold so much girth.
But the keyboard seems more accurate and reading books on it is a bit more enjoyable.
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>dead platform
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>>55387081
Yeah I was hoping for a America Day sale on HTC but I don't think it's gonna happen. Wouldn't mind getting it in black with the free uh oh protection.
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>>55387139
What the hell is up with that bottom speaker grille?
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SAMSUNG J500FN or MOTOROLA MOTO 3G?
Samsung is a little more expensive.
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>>55387422
half plays music, half records your voice for the botnet
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>>55379252
You can probably get hold of a Nexus 5 for that.
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>>55383597
there /r/xiaomi subreddit
the recommendation for buying was aliexpress and the seller TopOne
choose DHL shipping and you should have it in 8 days and not paying anything to anyone above the price+shipping

>>55383928
its 20% in my country

>>55385265
aliexpress and the seller TopOne, grey, + 7€ for flip cover
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>>55388546
>choose DHL shipping and you should have it in 8 days and not paying anything to anyone above the price+shipping
what? you basically have to pay all the taxes in existance with dhl because customs always check their packages
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>>55388584
they send you lots of text after you order, theres also this bit

>We recommend you choose DHL to try our "European Union Express". We guarantee there is no any Customs Duty and VAT. It will take only 4-8 working days. It's safe and fast! The value of the item is very high. It's worthy to have a better shopping experience!

I think they go in to EU by some lax country like spain, and then repackage/send when going elsewhere in the EU, so its not checked...
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buying iphone 6s from amazon is it safe? I've seen that most people rate 5 stars but sometimes you have got some guys who receive an empty box
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>>55388728
Buy only from Amazon, not a "fulfilled by Amazon" or marketplace seller.
Record a video of you opening the package incase it is missing.
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