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https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://www.gnu.org
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first for SATYA NUTELLA
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> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
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I'm looking for an overly user friendly distro. I'm moving abroad and to keep in touch with my grandma I am going to leave her my old thinkpad.

So anything a granny might understand?
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>>55359554
Just get a windows-look-alike DE like Mate, Cinnamon, etc.
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>>55359554
Mint
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>>55359654
>recommending a distro that blocks updates so it doesn't fall apart
>>>/b/
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>>55359638
The thing is that she isn't even used to windows, she literally haven't used computers since the commodore 64 when it was needed for her lab work.

>>55359654
I think she can wrap her head around that. There's even a fair looking translation. I'll check it out, thank you.
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>>55359671
I don't think grandma will mind.
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What's a good vim emulator for Firefox?
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http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify

First of all, shouldn't this be https?

But mostly, why does a basic guide "assume basic knowledge" of exactly what the guide is for?
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Is there a way to tell something like cut to cut from the nth occurrence of a character to the nth+1 occurrence?
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>>55359760

I use VimFX, since it's pretty simple and I can disable everything except for link following.
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>>55360065
Already found it myself, was a lot easier than I thought.
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>change kernel command line in kernel config
>make
>"new" kernel still has the old one
How the fuck do I fix this without using make clean and recompiling the dumb fucker completely?
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>>55361391
If you dual-boot GNU/Linux and Windows, and want to have big volumes of your data available to both OSes, are the only solutions to use Ext4 with Ext2fsd on Windows or NTFS with ntfslibs on GNU/Linux? As far as I know, both these software were kind of thrown together. Which way is the best?
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>>55361391
>>55361533
Sorry, didn't mean to link this post.
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>>55361533
NTFS is shit on Linux. If you want to share between them you can use exfat for Windows and some FUSE shit for Linux for read/write support on it. Really though you should be setting up a Linux server with NFS and Samba shares instead.
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>>55361641
Well, I only have one PC. Is setting up another PC for my anime just so serve them through NFS/Samba really smarter than using NTFS? Because that seems like taking a really long path for something so simple.

Why hasn't anyone worked on a good ntfs library for Linux yet anyway? Seriously, this seems like a pretty huge deal.
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>>55361726
There is no good writing to NTFS volumes from Linux. The documentation that Microsoft released for NTFS is shit, so no one wants to fuck with it.
>Is setting up another PC for my anime just so serve them through NFS/Samba
I can use my Samba/NFS share from anywhere in my house. The only issues I had with playing video were from the read speeds on my platter HDDs, but I haven't looked into options for improving performance on the shares. SSDs load everything perfectly. If you only have 1 PC then I don't see why you wouldn't just run Linux in a VM anyways, and you can even set that up for network shares pretty easily with Virtualbox with bridged adapters.
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Oh it's password day, password day, glorious changing-passwords-day

How often do you change your passwords, /fglt/? How do you choose yours? How many do you have? How do you remember them?

I change mine every 3 months. Keep them in a keepassx database.
> SIM card PIN
4 random numbers. Don't reboot phone that often, therefore don't use it much, therefore can't remember it easy, can't look it up without the phone if I'm not at home. Chance of someone spying it relatively low because seldom used.
> phone screen lock / encryption
Needs to be easily typable, therefore numbers only. Generated as a pronouncable lowercase/numbers phrase (16 characters), then just typed on the number keys, so e.g. wiokafubbona3636 becomes 9465238226623636. Same unlock number for tablet and phone.
> misc. websites and personal email
16 random upper/lower/numbers without lookalike characters. Can always copypaste them. No lookalikes because occasionally need them on PCs that are not my own -> have to manually type them
> pc decryption / login (home/work, also work email)
Four random words generated with diceware. Need something I can easily memorize since I use them often and don't want to pull my phone out every time, can't copypaste them. Need to be secure because lots of data on them, therefore 4 words. 5 would be better but that's for...
> passwords database
5 diceware-generated words. Commit to memory.

I keep the pc logins, phone unlocks and database password on a piece of paper seperate from the devices, all on one piece of paper and without context to minimize the risk of someone figuring out what they're for. Only use this when I have an absolute blackout and can't get into any of my devices.
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Is there a good, small HTTP server that I can use? Python is shit and throws exceptions when I try to download from it with these new Dell workstations.
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>>55361726
Just use NTFS. You just have to disable secure boot and fast boot on windows so it doesn't shit itself.
Alternative is to use two partitions on windows and only share the one with your memes.
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How do I configure a Gentoo VM kernel so that it takes the least space possible (while still being functional)?
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>>55361927
I already do that but it'd be nice not to lose 1TB of movies and anime because GNU/Linux's only NTFS driver was coded in an afternoon by some random dude.

Maybe I should switch to ExFAT as I was suggested.

Is there a known free solution to convert NTFS to ExFAT without losing data?

>>55361861
I guess if I don't get a better solution, I can just buy a cheap computer to make a server out of it. I know a place that often has old office computers for less than $100.

I just hate the idea of having to boot it and log in everytime I want to use my anime. and I'm not a security expert so I'm a little scared of leaving a computer running 24h/7 at my home.
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>>55361981
Just set it up with a hardened kernel and keep it updated. If you're really paranoid, I used to block everything but port 22 on the file server and used my VM (host only adapter) to port forward traffic from the Samba ports to the server through SSH.
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>>55362017
Is it possible to set up a Linux server entirely remotely, without ever connecting a monitor and keyboard to it? I'm talking including the installation process.
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>>55362048
Yeah, but it's more trouble than it's worth. I spent the last 3 days setting up an initramfs that I could gpxe boot and it's for my headless cluster nodes. If you set up a custom live image or network bootable image that starts sshd then you wouldn't need anything but a network connection.
My server is headless and managed through SSH, but if something fucks up when I update the kernel I need to plug a graphics card and keyboard into it to fix it, or remove the SSD and boot from the backup USB drive that's in it.
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>>55362124
Okay. I'm getting a workstation with integrated graphics if I go through with that plan, that's for sure.

Thanks for the advice!
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What distro/DE works best for 2-in-1 laptops? As in it'll flip around when it's supposed to and it recognizes all inputs?
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>Debian stable live ISO crashes at log in
Never again.


How stable is funtoo?
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My arch install has started booting without sound.

When it boots i open alsamixer and it has MM so i press m and it has 00, which is unmuted i belive. the problem is there is still no sound, and before i startx it gives some weird prompt about my usb so i unplug everything like my webcam bc it has before auto selected it as a soundcard, which caused the problem but if i boot into it without it plugged in why am i not getting sound. i looked through the wiki and stuff and i dont think anyone else had this problem, everyone jus unmuted it and it worked so why not me ;_;

>pic not related
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>>55362576
Now this is shitposting.
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>>55362682
Why so?
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https://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Linux&qpcustomb=0

WE 2% NOW!
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>>55363010
It hasn't even begun.
Vulkan will help it, paying for Windows 10 will help it, more awareness of spying will help it, etc.
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>>55362593
do you unmute every single column?

Do you increase the volumen?
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>>55361861
This is fucking outdated, ntfs has been fine on Linux for years
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>>55361726
>good ntfs library for Linux
ntfs-3g
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So i sold my gaymin PC and got a memebook for my chinese cartoons.

I have an old rig still working with 4GB of RAM, an AMD X2 with like 3TB of spare disks and i was thinking in installing GNU/loonix and dual boot Windows for some software (like CiscoPT). Which distro do you recommend? my goal is learning general computing and stop being a pleb.

Opensuse? any Ubuntu derivative?
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>>55363755
i do exactly that and still no sound whatsever
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>>55363904
chrunchbang maybe. if youre feeling deteremined go with arch so you really do have to figure shit out
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>>55363821
>ntfs has been fine on Linux for years
>read through NTFS docs for Linux
>>don't write files, or if you write a file you can only write to a file the exact size of the destination file
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>>55364095
have you tried:
>speaker-test
?
here the info
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Test_your_changes

try :
>aplay -l

and then

speaker-test -D whatevercard
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>>55364359
i did actually try speaker-test and got feedback. ill try aplay next ty
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>>55363010
>Linux Desktop
Will never happen, except torvalds implements a DE.
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>>55364544
DELET THIS
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>>55364542
by feedback you mean that annoying sound ?
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>>55364675
yea, and as i played i even opened something like a song on youtube but nothing came out
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>>55364759
I'm not sure I understand your grammar.

So speaker-test works, but youtube dont?

What if you play a .mp3 or a video file with mplayer , mpv or vlc?
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So what does /fglt/ think that Slackware is now updated to 14.2?
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Why would my browsers (both Mozilla based) tab through links on a webpage? It's as if I press the tab button and each hyperlink gets that dotted border one by one with about 10second intervals. It's annoying because it seems to scroll to the top of the page and sometimes disable some keys.

Assuming this isn't a Trojan, what could this be? I'm on trisquel with gnome (Ubuntu based)
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>>55364154
>chrunchbang
Why not Debain?
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>>55365243

Googled and its a discontinued distro, maybe ill go for Debian. Spotify will werk easy right?
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>>55365523
bunsenlabs
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so I have a problem and I don't know how to fix it pic related.

i'm losing some functionality by not having the graphic drivers on. if i turn them on after rebooting i get no output from the screen i.e. completely black

how do i fix this? from what ive read it is a pretty common issue
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>>55365523
>Spotify will werk easy right?

spotify for Linux is released as a debian paackage so yes

more information https://www.spotify.com/de/download/linux/
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>>55365811
dont use noveau

delete any xorg configs you have
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How did you updated all packages (including kernel) in gentoo? I can't remember.
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>>55359044
I have a Skylake laptop and on Windows I can use Intel Extreme Utility to undervolt both the GPU and the CPU by a certain mV offset. Can I do the same on Linux?
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>>55359554
Crunchbang
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>>55365925
i've been literally using ubuntu for a week, if you could please elaborate otherwise i wont understand
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>>55365931
emerge -ihavenothingtodoforthenext3dayssoletsupdate
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Hi /g/ I need an answer, a SMTube update says that xserver-xorg-lts-vivid will be uninstalled. Is that safe?
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>>55366228
>vivid
lmao
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I finally switched to linux and would like to know some recommended programs, preferably GUI and with a lot of options

-Best File Manager
-Best way to make Deb. fonts better
-CLI tool for tar with automatic options (i.e. xvzf) , forgot the name
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>>55366464
-Best File Manager
a bash console
-Best way to make Deb. fonts better
idk
-CLI tool for tar with automatic options (i.e. xvzf) , forgot the name

tar
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>>55366529
(you)
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How do I fix ugly fonts in chrome?
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I'm writing a bash script. I want the script to use some files in the same directory as the script file itself is in. Can I just refer to "./some_file.txt" in the script, or do I need to specify the full path?
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How would i go as to replacing windows with something like Arch. I'm use to using windows for gaming but have grown tired of it, and since windows 10 is licensed to me and shit i'd be able to go back any time of course, anyways, how would i go as to doing that, like, fully getting rid of windows and installing something like Arch, and also, which SHOULD i use, arch, what linux distro.
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Maybe this should go in SQT, but why does the 'eth0' section of ifconfig display RX/TX bytes when my ethernet isn't plugged in?
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>>55366782
sure
or just "somefile.txt"
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>>55366464
>spacefm
>infinality
>ihavenocluewhatyoumeanusersync
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>>55367050
I used to have a cli command that automatically extracted tar files to a folder, it was just like,
> command (file)
and it extracted it with no options
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>>55367157
7z -x $1
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>>55366816

Debian with KDE
Download the iso and burn it
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>>55367157
>>55366464
just chuck
alias untar="tar -xvzf"
in your .bashrc or whatever.
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what is a good distro that has nvidia drivers on their repository like Arch?
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>>55367659
Arch
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>>55367665
i need an alternative because shitty driver support/glitches on my laptop
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>>55367673
How will changing distro fix that?
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>>55367686
i believe its distro specific because theres no bugs on ubuntu
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How can I install my cd/dvd rom in my thinkpad? I installed debian 8 with a usb. What are the correct commands to be able to do this through the terminal?
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>>55367728
chaces are is ready to use.

just put a cd/dvd, mount it (if no autmount) and do whatever you need.
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>>55367726
heh
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>>55367796
I tried, but it only gave me the loption to burn it, not to play it.
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>>55359044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU-mKsQLWXQ
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>>55367894
>lsblk
it will tell you the device name. (is the one with type rom)

first check if is already mounted:
>mount
look for something like:
> /dev/{yourdevicename} on /media/something

If is not mounted:

>mount /dev/{devicename} /media/dvd

You may have to create the dir /media/dvd.

pd: dont write the {}
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With the debian non free isos, when you install does all the firmware not related to your particular computer get installed or just the stuff you need? Think I only have wifi drivers but it's a pain to deal with when it doesn't work.
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>>55367959
Thanks anon, its working now.
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>>55368161
good, always glad to help
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How would I go about installing gentoo on my c720 chromebook? Not sure which kernel modules I need to include.
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Okay noob question: How do I enable the shortcut command for the terminal, aka Ctrl + Alt +T. I am on debian, and it doesn't to work. I tried looking on keyboard, and couldn't find it.
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>>55367157
You can add the following function to .bashrc:
function extract {
if [ -z "$1" ]; then
# display usage if no parameters given
echo "Usage: extract <path/file_name>.<zip|rar|bz2|gz|tar|tbz2|tgz|Z|7z|xz|ex|tar.bz2|tar.gz|tar.xz>"
else
if [ -f $1 ] ; then
NAME=${1%.*}
mkdir $NAME && cd $NAME
case $1 in
*.tar.bz2) tar xvjf ../$1 ;;
*.tar.gz) tar xvzf ../$1 ;;
*.tar.xz) tar xvJf ../$1 ;;
*.lzma) unlzma ../$1 ;;
*.bz2) bunzip2 ../$1 ;;
*.rar) unrar x -ad ../$1 ;;
*.gz) gunzip ../$1 ;;
*.tar) tar xvf ../$1 ;;
*.tbz2) tar xvjf ../$1 ;;
*.tgz) tar xvzf ../$1 ;;
*.zip) unzip ../$1 ;;
*.Z) uncompress ../$1 ;;
*.7z) 7z x ../$1 ;;
*.xz) unxz ../$1 ;;
*.exe) cabextract ../$1 ;;
*) echo "extract: '$1' - unknown archive method" ;;
esac
else
echo "$1 - file does not exist"
fi
fi
}

Source: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22902213/all-in-one-unarchive-bash-script-linux
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>>55368315
it depends on your window manager / DE.
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>>55368340
My window manager is GNOME 3.
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>>55368265
Try reading the install guide and wiki.
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>>55368391
IDK but
>alt + f2
is quasi universal, not to launch a terminal but a "laucher" so you just write the name of your favorite terminal, or program to be launched.
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>>55368391
You should have a "easy to use" gui tool to set shortcuts then.
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>>55361895
>keepassx
Is there something wrong with password-store?
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>>55361907
lighttpd

Literally set the document root, start, and the defaults are fine. Adding PHP is like 5 lines as well
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Say I have mutt on two computers, would I need an app password for each one, if I have 2fa on the account?
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I'm currently installing Gentoo but I can't download things with emerge. I get errors like
>>> Downloading 'http://ftp.swin.edu.au/gentoo/distfiles/bc-1.06.95.tar.bz2'
--2016-07-02 15:36:57-- http://ftp.swin.edu.au/gentoo/distfiles/bc-1.06.95.tar.bz2
Resolving ftp.swin.edu.au... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
wget: unable to resolve host address 'ftp.swin.edu.au'

50 times as it tries all the different mirrors. But it's possible to 'wget http://ftp.swin.edu.au/gentoo/distfiles/bc-1.06.95.tar.bz2' and download the package. I can do emerge-webrsync and 'emerge --sync' with no problems. I can ping everything apart from my hostname.
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>>55367648
Tar now automatically detects what compression was used, so you can just do "alias tar=tar\ xf" and it will work for all things including .tar.xz and .tar.bz2, not just .tar.gz
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>>55364920
Going to upgrade next weekend.
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>>55368710
Oh yeah, with bzip, gzip and xzip, we have reached universal archive format support. There was never any other archive compression standard in the history of ever.
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>>55368766
Well its better than the guy I was replying to whose script could only unpack .tar.gz and not even plain .tar files
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What would be better for kde5, kubuntu 16.04 or debian?
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>>55368864
arch
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>>55368906
No thanks
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>>55368965
Funtoo is also good.
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>>55368970
Yeah I used to use that but I'm going for less time consuming options (funtoo wasn't that time consuming but living in the tropics and compiling everything with a shitty laptop isn't that much fun).
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>>55368864
Put both on two different live USBs and see which one you like better.
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>>55368864
Arch was actually more stable than Kubuntu
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>>55367959
>You may have to create the dir /media/dvd.
Try this instead:
$udisks --mount /dev/sdX
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>>55369255
I wouldn't doubt it but that's not the question.
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How to stop debian from asking me for the amd64 cd? I want to install my nvidia drivers, but it keeps asking me for the cd.
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First time installing gentoo. I can't seem to be able to boot the installation CD if I'm not in CSM/legacy EFI boot mode (BIOS option). I'd prefer to use a GPT partitioning scheme on my drive. I'm only installing gentoo on this system and nothing else. Does it matter what boot mode (EFI vs. CSM vs. BIOS) I'm using when installing gentoo to a GPT partitioned drive? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
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>>55369315
Comment the line out in your sources file, I think.
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Hi guys, I need your help with something. I was trying to install my nvidia drivers, tinstalled them, then had to reboot. Now I am welcomed with a text based login, I loged in, and tried to re-install my nvidia drivers. It tells me that nvidia x-config was not correctly set up or sommething, and that I have to access xorg.conf. I tried to do it by "cd /etc/x11" but debian tells me that this command doesnt exist,. What should I do? Any help is appreciated.
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>>55369584
Okay, I got into "X11", but can't find xorg.conf. Where else can I find it?
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anyone know of a program i can install on ubuntu server that has a web ui where i can see the load, disk usage, and other stats
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>>55359044

rekt
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>>55359554
Actually debian stable. Install all documentation and teach her about manpages. get her an easy to use DE or WM. show her a few and ask her what she likes.
set up a cronjob for sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
make sure you can SSH into it in case she needs help.
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>>55370346
My dad doesn't want to read pages of documentation. I doubt his grandma would want to either.
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>>55370285
more like reking yourself. You are missing out. And btw. Wine has existed for years.
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>>55370364
If her last computer was a commodore 64 i think she won't mind. People that never used windows or mac os have it easier to get into GNU/Linux.
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>>55370285
Canonical really fucked up.
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>>55369637
xorg.conf should be in /etc/X11/. If it isn't there, X isn't going to work. You probably have a program called nvidia-xconfig which should automatically create a xorg.conf for you., so try running that as root. If you don't have it, try downloading it from your distro's repos.
>>
Trying awesome. Any recommendations, tips or whatever?
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How come I sometimes have to restart rtorrent to get any seeds? When the download speed drops to 0kb/s I don't seem to get any seeds before I restart the entire program.
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>>55365933
>>55365933

Could anyone help me with this?
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>>55368669
Never mind, fixed it.

>>55370641
I liked the lain repo. When I used the package in the AUR, it was updated every day. As normal, don't use your WM for bindings of non-WM things.
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Will choosing "erase disk and install Ubuntu" wipe MBR too? (master boot record)
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>>55370285
XD
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>>55370785
I guess so, yeah, probably
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>>55367157
atool
>>55370285
>unironically using malware as main OS
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ug, how long is it going to take for arch to update enlightenment? This shit is figuratively taking forever to compile...
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Whats the difference between Xresources and Xdefaults
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>>55371081

Took me 3 seconds to search for that online and find plenty of answers.
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>>55371081
http://superuser.com/questions/243914/xresources-or-xdefaults
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>>55370784
>don't use your WM for bindings of non-WM things.
what do you mean?
>>
How do I constantly monitor all new lines of a file, and if it matches a string, send that line to a file?

I've tried
 tail -f /thing/file.log | grep "string" > out.log 


but I get nothing. Without the redirection it prints to stdout fine.
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>>55371081
Xresources is new
Xdefaults is deprecated

still they didn't figure out that using uppercase letters violates everything

xrdb ~/.config/xorg/xorg.conf master race
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>>55371394
try >>
>>
>switch from to Arch to Fedora 24
>expect to be bleeding edge
>most rpmfusion packages aren't even ready yet

Is this also an issue in other non-rolling distros where non-official repos take weeks to rebuild packages for each new release?
>>
>>55371449
Doesn't that just append instead of overwrite?
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>>55371322
It's possible in awesome and every wm I know of to create your own keybindings for anything. Like 'Print' (the key) to mean 'scrot -e'. If you have all your key bindings in the wm's config, if you change, you have to rewrite them all in the new config.

So if you use an external keybind program, you retain your keybinds though different wms.
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>>55371487
Oh, I see. Thank you for the warning.
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>>55371487
Good advice. That's why I'm using xbindkeys.
Sxhkd gets much love too recently.
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>install linux on an old HP notebook
>it has an old AMD graphics card
>official drivers for that card only supports an ancient version of the linux kernel
>FOSS driver is shit, everything is so laggy as if there was no graphics card installed

Is there anything i could do? I just want to run some really old games and browse the internet without the computer shitting itself.
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>>55371394
test the different parts. Maybe your string isn't being matched, or it's only running once and you need to put it inside a while loop or something.
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>>55371394
Since tail -f never finishes, run grep with "--line-buffered".
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What can I use on gentoo to convert mange to .mobi for my kindle?
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>>55371576
Perfect, thanks anon
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>>55371487

Or stop being a ricing idiot who changes his window manager all the time. Sane people stick to one environment.
Sane people don't need an additional package/process running in the background for something another package already does.
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>>55371695
>I can't do X
>Sane people don't need X
t. babby
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>>55371634

>on gentoo

That type of program is distribution independent. How can someone who uses an "advanced" distribution such as Gentoo not know that? Simple: because he's not really using it. You're a pretentious idiot who installed an operating system he doesn't even need.
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>>55371732
Gentoo isn't advanced. The package manager does all the compiling. Using Gentoo is basically just like using Arch: easy.
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>>55371732
Woah. Not so 'friendly' today eh? I just was just after suggestions. I use KCC at the moment. Wondered if anyone else used something interesting...
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>>55371695
>guy is clearly switching window managers
>offered tip to have x11 wide keybinds
>OH MY GOD STOP CHANGING WINDOW MANAGERS

anon, do you read what you type before you press that little post button there
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>>55371732
Ironically you sound like the pretenious idiot here
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>>55371753

Advanced as in "someone in a position to benefit from Gentoo should be aware that if a program works on one distribution, it can work on another too".
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>>55371789
>Gentoo users aren't allowed to ask questions
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>>55371539
P-please respond.
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>>55371814
It seems the gentoo user base is so advanced they just _know_ the answer to everything.
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>>55371830
According to who
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>>55371841
>>55371789
>>55371732
>>
>>55371876
Anon is asking a question. Why would that make you think he's pretentious and knows everything?
>>
Is there a Linux alternative for Intel Extreme Tuning utility? I use it to undervolt a skylake cpu.
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>>55371893
Ah, this is always a fun moment in 4chan. When you see how mixed things are. I am the anon who asked about manga conversion. I was under the impression the guy who called me pretentious thinkgs that gentoo users must know the answer to everything and therefore can't ask questions.
>>
http://gnupluslinux.org/
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>>55371930
ah

I think he might just be having a very bad day
>>
Alright /fglt/, >>55362576 here

Give me a distro that focuses more on security updates than newer packages. I tried debian stable but it crashes every time I boot into the live ISO. (Maybe because new hardware?)

I want systemd as well
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>>55372015
I've not used it myself, but Gentoo has a profile for hardened sources and systemd.
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>>55372015
Hardened Debian stable. What hardware do you have?
>>
Recommended display manager?
>>
>>55372058
There is literally nothing special about my hardware, I don't know why no distros would install in its SSD.

I ended up installing Arch on an SD card, I wouldn't care I use it for my NFS server anyways
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>>55372092
None or lightDM
None DM is best DM.
>>
>>55372092
>>55372107
I actually prefer TTY based login manager.
>>
Anyone ever use Chrome OS? Impressions?
>>
Alright, so I want to download a couple 100 imgur albums.

I downloaded this thing called imgur album downloader (It's a python script)

It works like this:
$ > python3 imaguralbum.py http://imgur.com/myurl


Now I have a text file with all the urls, how do I download all of these without copy-pasting every url?

The text file is like this:
http://imgur.com/a/urlone
http://imgur.com/a/urltwo
http://imgur.com/a/urlthr
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>>55372092
[[ -z "${DISPLAY}" && "$(tty)" = "/dev/tty1" ]] && exec startx
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Can a WM run by itself? I mean with no DE running.
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>>55372221
Yes.
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>>55372221
If you have a WM, a panel and a file manager, it's a DE
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>>55372151
gentoo without the choice
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>>55372159
Write a shell script.
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>>55372364
Yes, and I'm asking for its contents.
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>>55372221
Yep. A DE is generally just a login/display manager, a riced out WM, a theme system for GTK/QT, a bunch of programs and some scripts to tie it all together.
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>>55372159
I'm not logged in so I can't fetch the script, but you can use curl to search through and find i.imgur urls or regex for image files and then feed its input to wget, or if that text file links directly to each image you can use wget and feed it line by line with shell commands. Sorry, not much help, but hopefully you can find something googlable from that.
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>>55372411
I'm not asking for that, all I need to knwo is how to pass lines from a text file as an argument.
>>
How would I go about removing unity from Ubuntu and installing, say, i3?
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>>55372429
Ah. Pipe them from cat to xargs.

cat | xargs wget


each line will be sent to wget as input, and run once per input
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>>55371732
Perhaps he meant a software that is officially supported for gentoo and/or on their default repositories?
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>>55372447
Install i3, choose it in the dm. If there is no option change xinit, then uninstall unity.
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>>55372461
UUOC, git gud nigga and read the damn manual
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>>55372159
Wrote a basic shell script for you
for i in $(cat filename); do
python3 imaguralbum.py $i
done
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>>55372485
see >>55372475
also quote you variables
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>>55372461
man wget
 
-i file
--input-file=file
Read URLs from a local or external file.
>>
How do I change vim keybinds?
I want to change hjkl to jkl;
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>>55372532
no
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>>55372485
It works, thanks.
>>
I have a Ubuntu server running Plex and everything is accessible from the outside. I use webmin to control pretty much everything and to grab files that I need.

However is there a way to stream video files from the webmin interface? It always just starts to download instead of playing the file.
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>>55372566
Why not?
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>>55372631
The default keybinds have a purpose. Try using them for a while, at least as long as you're still learning vim. When you see the bigger picture, you'll realize that hjkl makes sense.
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>>55372655
jkl; makes alot more sense and I am used to using that thanks to i3
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>>55372532
if you want to use your own keybinds why not learn emacs from the start?
>>
>>55364196
that's the in-kernel ntfs driver
it's write support is experimental, you probably want ntfs-3g instead, which is a fuse driver (not part of linux!)
>>
How can into gaymen in Linux?i dont wanna pay for a bullshit windows suscription
>>
>>55373074
steam, gog, wine
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>>55373074
Steam and GOG for games
Wine if game doesn't have native GNU/Linux support
>>
I really want to get into Linux, but have no idea how to use it or where to start, any ideas?
>>
>>55373136
how did you get into the OS you currently use?
>>
>>55373136
Pick a distro and install a distro, learn basic shell commands and use your computer. Keep an open mind and a willingness to learn.
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>>55373136
install debian
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>>55373098
Thanks m8s
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>>55373159
alright, going to find a distro and install, any suggestions? going to dual boot it too
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>>55373265
Debian jessie
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I managed to lose my microphone. Can't find it anywhere. Not on the floor, not on my desk, not in any drawers. Not even buried deep in my armchair.

So I was thinking of solving this problem by sending the data from my laptops built in mic straight to its headphone jack where I already have an AUX cable going to my Win7 desktops microphone jack.

In Win7 doing this is as simple as checking a box labeled "Listen to this device" or something. But I have no idea how to do this in GNU/Linux.

wat do

pic related
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>>55373265
Ubuntu is the safest bet
>>
>>55373375
Fuck off canonical shill.
>>
Hello lads.
I have been playing arouond in openbox and it is fucking great.

My question is how can i save setting to launch when i start a session?
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>>55373402
fuck odd Debian shill
>>
>>55373409
-and to add to that i'm total tech illiterate.
>>
>>55373265
Ubuntu or Mint are the best entry points
>>
>>55373425
see >>55359671
fuck off
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>>55373265
i suggest ubuntu.ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu.

im pretty illiterate and they just werk.
>>
>>55373439
>im pretty illiterate
>i suggest ubuntu
seems about right
>>
>>55373437
please kill yourself autist. New users won't give a fuck about having bleeding edge packages, they want ease of use and stability
>>
>>55373455
no shit sherlock.
>>
>>55373455
your reading comprehension is beyond terrible
>>
>>55373459
Tell me, wise wizard, how can a distro be stable if security updates are blocked? Mint literally even blocks KERNEL updates.
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>>55373471
yeah because if your security updates are delayed by 2 weeks you will be hax0red by the Chinese government or maybe you'll get a nasty trojan right

like I said kill yourself
>>
>>55373489
>delayed
Do you know what "blocked" means?
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules
>>
>>55373468
please elaborate
>>
>>55373516
no you're absolutely right it's obvious those packages are literally blocked forever and will never receive updates on Mint
>>
>>55373516
you have no idea how Mint update works do you

you can specify which levels to upgrade you dumb fuck
>>
>>55373540
He's right bro.
Tags 4 and 5 mean no updates to prevent breakage.
>>
>>55373561
>b-but I can turn it off!
Windows user mentality

a) Such defaults shouldn't be a thing.
b) A distro should be able to manage updates without breaking itself into pieces.
>>
>>55373489
>you will be hax0red
Well, yes.
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/
>>
>>55373583
a) Normie-oriented OSes must always heavily prioritize stability over having the latest packages
b) Mint doesn't break if you update the kernel
c) if you don't know how to click on "update policy" in the update manager you really should just keep to Windows or Mac
>>
>>55373650
>Normie-oriented OSes must always heavily prioritize stability over having the latest packages
Security holes negate any stability.

>Mint doesn't break if you update the kernel
It does. Check https://bugs.launchpad.net or https://forums.linuxmint.com and search for bugs and whine after kernel updates.

Mint's own programs expect a specific kernel configurations and driver support will break if you use a kernel, not configured by Mint devs.
>>
What's the difference between the GNOME icon theme and Adwaita?
>>
>>55373409

>My question is how can i save setting to launch when i start a session?

u w0t m8?
>>
>>55373770
works on my machine™

there are plenty of bug reports for any combination of distro/DE/kernel version out there
>>
>>55373796
i mean when i put in panels and such.
How i save them, so they appear automaticly in next startup?
>>
>>55373835
xinitrc:

panel &
such &
exec windowmanager
>>
why doesn't gedit close itself automatically after I click Close and then choose to save the file? I have to click close again after that
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>>55373848
Thanks mate.

atm it looks like this...have had many different configs but now it uses WM=openbox & DE= xfe4.

always tried different setups.
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>>55373561
>unsave
>dangerous
enjoy ur broken system, pleb
>>
>>55373848

No, that's the wrong way with Openbox. It has an autostart file for exactly that reason.
>>
>>55373982
How should I know that he's using openbox?
>>
>>55374018

>I have been playing arouond in openbox and it is fucking great.

By reading.
>>
>>55374018
by reading the thread like you should
>>
>>55373265
All the others suggested are good options. Hop on distrowatch and have a look around, read some descriptions etc there is literally nothing at stake so try a few out. Installing a couple of times isn't going to hurt.
>>
>>55373982
where is that file located?
>>
>>55373459
If anything it'll help teach them that they don't want to use a distro that behaves in this manner and push them towards a better maintained one.
>>
>mfw no full graphic support for skylake yet

fuck, can't play gaymes on linux. Shit sux.
>>
>>55374052

>trying out distributions on distrowatch

Are you aware that 99% of those distributions are useless? Not just that, but he's more likely to encounter problems with those, because it's "maintained" by idiots who probably fuck things up on their quest to change the icons and wallpapers.
>>
>>55374073

http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart
Plus a bunch of other guides all over the internet can tell you that.
>>
>>55374077
>buying hardware that your OS doesn't support
>>
>>55374077
>buying intel
you dug your own grave
>>
>>55374084
Just had a quick look, the top 10 all seem like viable distros. That's more than enough to keep anon busy.
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>>55374103
found it already by pokin around.

but thanks anyway...that link will be usefull.
>>
Is it not possible to get a debian live iso for testing and non free?
>>
If I have a Trojan in BIOS, can the hacker have remote control on my laptop running Ubuntu?
>>
>>55374344
The only possible answer is maybe.
>>
>>55374212
>testing
no, as testing should never be intalled but only upgraded to.
>nonfree
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/
>>
>>55374543
Ok, so would be more recommendable to install the live image of KDE (which I want to use) and then upgrade to testing or install from minimal, upgrade to testing and then install testing?

I tried upgrading in the live environment just to see how much would be upgraded but it said there was a unresolvable conflict or something with plasma desktop.
>>
>>55374601
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
"The reliable way to install testing from scratch is to do a minimal installation with the stable installer, then upgrade from stable to testing."
after this you can sudo aptitude install task-kde-desktop
https://packages.debian.org/sid/task-kde-desktop
>>
best way to stream porn over 4g from my ubuntu server at home? i keep my plex clean so can't use that.
>>
so, low experience scrub here
after ubuntu and fedora offing themselves i'm looking at some easy distro that's not full of bullshit

to be honest gentoo is looking as a really competent candidate, as far as i could gather it's stable, devoid of anything not installed by you and widely supported

is it really as complex as you guys make it out to be?
does it fuckup like arch does?
are compiling times as long as they say?
>>
>>55374723

>stable, devoid of anything not installed by you and widely supported

So are Debian, Fedora, Arch and Ubuntu.
>>
>>55374723
Nothing wrong with Fedora. It's actually the best compromise in terms of freedom, while enjoying full hardware support.

If you've experienced with Ubuntu, plain Debian is a reasonable upgrade.

Gentoo makes only sense if you have a lot of experience with many programs and their features, since the killer feature of Gentoo is customizing packages via flags at compile time, which is comfy, but only if you know what you're doing.
>>
How can I automatically replace tabs with 4 spaces in vim?
>>
>>55374723
Gentoo is fantastic and probably the best distro if you have time or it suits your needs.
>is it really as complex as you guys make it out to be?
Depends how much you already know. I installed it after using ubuntu, then manjaro for a few months. Everything is documented so it's just a case of reading.
>does it fuckup like arch does?
Didn't have any fuck ups in the time I used it, once or twice I had to fix some things with new packages but nothing major.
>are compiling times as long as they say?
Depends on your hardware and what you have installed. Optimized kernel used to take about 10mins for me, firefox about 1.5 - 2 hours. Think that was one of the longest and that was on a core2duo.
You might want to look at funtoo, the install process is easier and comes with a precompiled kernel so you don't have to get stuck before you've even started.
>>
>>55374869
set expandtab
set tabstop=4
>>
>>55374905
Do I do this in vimrc?
>>
>>55374864
>>55374859
except they're not?
their livecd have to connect to internet to complete installation and come by default with some shitty splash screen and login interface
all minimal install are net based
>>55374901
>it's just a case of reading
hope it's better than arch's wiki

i'm installing on a laptop, hoping to dual boot, not particularly interested in speed, just want something that can handle maybe days of uptime while being accessed remotely

will look into funtoo
>>
>>55374960
>just want something that can handle maybe days of uptime while being accessed remotely
I think pretty much every distro can meet that need
>>
>>55374958
yes
>>
>>55374960

You need an internet connection to install Gentoo too. You're using the internet right now. That's a retarded reason.

> and come by default with some shitty splash screen and login interface
No, they don't. The minimal installs offer you to install only the things you want.
>>
>>55374985
Thanks
>>
>>55374958
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Converting_tabs_to_spaces
>>
Why so many people want Gentoo when Funtoo is the successor?
>>
>>55374972
welp, ubuntu took literally 2 weeks before it broke trying to update itself
fedora refused to recognise the cache ssd and first broke bootmgr then grub
debian admittedly lasted the longest, but now it just refuses to boot
>the Windows partition has had absolutely no problem doing the same things through putty and virtualbox for 1 full year
>>
>>55375032
I don't think ubuntu updates itself unless you update it.
If you can't fix debian not booting then maybe gentoo isn't for you, you may have to fix similar problems. Gentoo has much more potential to go wrong than all three of those distros combined.
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>Where in the world is Richard Stallman?

President and founder of the Free Software Foundation Richard Stallman has an extensive travel schedule and frequently gives talks about free software all over the world.

If you would like Richard Stallman (RMS) to speak at your event, please contact [email protected].

If you would like RMS to come to your school and speak, try asking professors in IT-related departments if they would like to bring him. They can contact [email protected].

You can find video and audio recordings of many of Dr. Stallman's speeches and lectures at audio-video.gnu.org.

Jul 02, 2016 04:00 PM Choisy-le-Roi, France Event Richard Stallman - « Informatique et Droit: quelles politiques seraient justes ? » (Choisy-le-Roi, France)
Jul 24, 2016 12:00 PM New York, New York Event Richard Stallman - "Freedom and Privacy in Our Lives, Our Governments and Our Schools" (The Eleventh HOPE, New York, NY)
Aug 11, 2016 06:00 PM Montreal, Canada Event Richard Stallman to speak in Montreal, Canada
>>
>>55375062
what would you suggest, then?
if it weren't for compatibility issues i'd have gone for bsd
other option would be to make an hackintosh, but fuck that noise
>>
>>55375022
Because the "install gentoo" meme.
>>
>>55375212
t b h fampai you guys wave it around as if it were the end all be all perfect distro
>>
>>55375235
install gentoo is /g/ speak for "lurk moar" or "git gud"
>>
>>55374706
anyone?
>>
>>55375235
>he can't type desu
>>
>>55375337
this desu senpai
>>
>>55375114

Do you feel great throwing those "big" words around? Does it make you feel knowledgeable and superior?
There's no point in explaining to you why you're an idiot, because it would be lost on you.
>>
>>55375358
>>55375337
install gentoo t bh
>>
>>55375372
This is a friendly thread.
>>
>>55359554
Windows
>>
>>55375463
>mom, look, I'm funny on the internet
>>
>>55375475
In all seriousness, Windows is the best choice unless you wanna go repair it every day
>>
>>55375463
>>>/out/
>>
>>55375502
Suck it up poorfag, Linux is a shit choice for everything where humans are involved
>>
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>>55375463
>>
yall need to stop being poor
linux a shit
>>
>>55375463
>>55375498
>>55375516
>>55375531
enjoy your botnet
>>
>>55375531
>>55375516

I thought wendys is gratis?
>>
Premium Thread: >>55375546
>>
>>55359554
Ubuntu MATE
Peppermint
Deepin
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>>55375463
You should be beheaded tbhfämpai
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