RX 480

>>55328831
I was about to sell my 380 to get the 480 but now that I've seen what this card does I think its better to stay with my card and wait for vega.

>>55328831
here's the (you) you wanted mr. shill

>>55328831
Do we really need 100 threads every time a shitty GPU is released?

>>55328831

don't amd memecards take a year or so to shit on older Nvidia cards?

The 380 now destroys the 960. The 480 will eventually do the same with the 970.

If anything it's the 390 and 390x that suck hardcore.

>>55328831
>Europe price
Irrelevant
>Efficiency
Semi-relevant, but the efficiency data was mainly coming from 390->480, which the target was met.
>Violates PCIe specs
Currently under investigation because this is not the intended power consumption target.
>OC
With reference to the above, OC is limited due to the current issue under investigation
>cooler
Runs perfectly fine and is quiet enough in normal load.


Also, you're dumb.

>>55328831
>significantly slower than 970
any source for that because thats not what ive seen

Report and sage, nothing to see here

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>>55328831
sorry too busy partying hard to properly design gpu's

>>55328886
same but i still have some slim trace of hope for after market cards but not much

>>55328831
Literally none of those bullet point are true.
>Two nGoym points have been deposited in your GayForced Experience account

>>55328831
How much are you people being paid?

Am I correct in thinking many of the GTX 970 cards have a cooler which is zero rpm at idle?

I just don't know why anyone would buy this leaf blower from AMD when it's the same price as a much quieter tried and true 970. New Zealand here and the 970 is only chump change more than the 970.

>>55328952
explain pic pls, like my third time seeing it

>>55328927
Europe price is actually relevant you mong.

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>>55328831
i bought a 970 after seeing the benchmarks this morning

NO ONE GIVES A FUCK WE DON'T NEED 2.73 MILLION GPU THREADS FUCK OFF

>>55328992
Its not relevant because MSRP is released as US dollars. Europe and their VAT and their tax system is completely independent of US MSRP pricing.

So its completely irrelevant.

>>55328831
>Costs more than a non-reference GTX 970 (Europe here) despite having significantly worse performance (except in selected DX12 titles)
Wrong the cheapest 970 is costing $400 compared to the $340 RX480
>Despite 14nm still same efficiency as old 28nm 970s
It's set to compete with the 960 and it beats it and the 970
>Violates PCIe specification due to too high power draw from the slot
ONE confirmed case.
>Literally no overclock headroom
http://oc.jagatreview.com/2016/06/teaser-overclocking-amd-radeon-rx480-ke-1-4ghz-dengan-cooler-3rd-party/2/
>Extremely cheap cooler who makes the card run hot AND is somewhat loud
Literally the same as every reference (founders edition for nvidiots)
thank you

>>55328920

the 390 and 390x are just rehashed 290 and 290x's. so yes they suck at this point

>>55328991
its chief or radeon technology group and amd employees partying

>>55329006
I'm so sorry you're retarded anon

>>55329035
>ONE confirmed case.
Actually on the main AyyMD leddit thread multiple sources have come forward in the last 10 hours confirming including a reputable german site.

>>55329035

Review BIOS were creating the PCI-E problem (BTW you can BIOS unlock the 480 4GB to the 8GB if you use that same review BIOS, you have the higher-watt-usage on a mobo, but any mobo above 60$ is going to be fine)

>>55329028
>The US is the only country that matters

Holy fuck kill yourself

>>55329043
how do the suck if they outperform 480 both of them and 390x is better than both 480 and 970 in fact 390x outperform 980

so i dont see why somone would regret buying it
few months a go

>>55328920
Yes, let me wait a year for my card to become relevant.

>>55329070
Sadly the 970 is actually selling for $100 less than the 480 at this point, the 970 is actually a much better deal

>>55329035
>1425 Mhz
Silicon lottery? Google translation said they were using 2xPowerColor model and 2xAMD supplied models.

>>55329079
tbqh, US is THE only country that matters. Europe is a vast collection of small tiny countries that overall equal the whole US economy.

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>>55329070
i'm sorry your card wasnt what you expected, amd shill.

>>55329097
Dude, just move to america

>>55329047
where are they at where you can smoke cigars inside of clubs? germany?

>>55329078
Not true, retail 480s have the same problem, see the last update here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/

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>>55328927
>>55328975
>>55329035

lol

>>55329099
The same goes for the US, retard.

>>55329079
Except it is. If that weren't the case you'd have your own video card companies. But you don't, so instead you get to sponge off the leftovers.

>>55329102
What is that image supposed to show me? that the 480 consumes the same amount of power as a 970?

>>55328831
Also can blow your PCIE

>In games, the Radeon RX 480 exceeds 150 Watt thermal design power and PCIe specification.

>>55329106
Those are actually in american dollars

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>>55328831

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and another source

>>55329145
yikes

>>55329099
>>55329123
Typical Americans who have no idea a world exists outside of their country

>>55328831
It performs better and has better efficiency than the 970 according to techpowerup.
The price in Europe right now is about 300€, while the 970 is 350€. The highish price is probably due to shortage.
>Violates PCIe specification
So did the 750 and 960 and literally nothing happened.
Now fuck off.

>>55329128
yup, it was supossed to be way more efficient than a 970, this 970 is OC'd, whereas the stock 480 draws the same power.

so that cant be used as an argument either, i bought my 970 for 13$ more than the 480, and it ships today, not in 2 weeks when the stock recovers.

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>>55329137

>>55329122
US is not made up of multiple countries.

Are you stupid?

>>55329172
Doesn't matter, the world economy revolves around a US dollar because of the strength of US economy and its ability to enforce/project/protect its dollar.

Go be butthurt somewhere else.

>>55329172
A world exists outside of it, and that world is lucky the US allows them to have functional PC hardware. What do I get from where you live again? I mean, you won't even say, most likely out of shame.

>>55328831
>Europe price
europe price applies to all cards in europe, you motherfucking mong

>>55329209
>The US is the most powerful country, therefore other countries don't matter

The logic you made to get there is astounding.

>>55329177
>350€
not really
where i live the cheapest 480 is currently 306 euro
while cheaper factory over clock 970 are 280-290 euro

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>>55329121
It's getting 83 fps in this test

>>55329236
Now you're just mad

>>55329234
not him but see >>55329246

>>55328911
This is /g/ any time any new consumer product is announced or released. Ever been here during an Apple conference?

>>55329183
and your 970 has 3.5gbs of vram and no a-sync, in addition to having to pay extra if you ever want adaptive sync, and your card will most likely lose performance over time/the AMD card will gain lots of performance over time

1399 RON/309.19 EUR/343.67 US Dollars in Romania for a reference pre-order RX 480

It's good enough, i would have expected it to go over 1600 RON. THANKS, EUROPE/ROMANIA VAT FOR FUCKING ME LESS IN THE ASS

i have no reason to upgrade from a 7950, still.

>>55328831
>despite having significantly worse performance (except in selected DX12 titles)
Good to see you're forward thinking, as is usual for Europeans

>>55329246
Not everyone lives in the same place, genius

>>55329183
>bought 970 today
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55328831
>970
>still a clearly better choice than the 480
not in my country.
Nvidia here is expensive

>>55329250
Delete this

>>55329278
still less than a custom-cooler 970

>>55329079
buttblasted uropoop detected

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>>55329028
>>55328536
we don't even know what 1060 will offer
but if leaks are true someone was running wild with a scalpel so may be we will again get same performance as 970

480 is shit and lose few % to 970 for now but im 100% sure over time it will revers

in my opinion wait for after market 480 and wait for 1060 and than ask again

>>55329183
>buying a 970
>ever
i weep for humanity

>>55329090
>390x outperforms 980
>fury x doesn't even outperform 980

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>>55329121
>>55329307
>>55329250
It gets better, the 480 stomps the 970 in mordor at 1440p Ultra

>>55329330
1060 will be an overpriced piece of shit just like the 960 is. fucking wow, 128bit? the 380 shits all over it, price and performance-wise

>>55329006
>He didn't bought a GTX970 one year ago when they where $5500.

AMD is always more expensive in Mexico and below.

>>55329339
please jump off a cliff, green memeboy :^)

>>55328831
EVERYONE SAID THAT
DON'T TRUST AMD

>>55329359
I think it's more expensive in India as well, 380 cost as much as a 970 at one point

>>55329339
>fury x doesn't even outperform 980
proofs other than rise of tomb raider

>>55329377
he wasn't even worth the reply

>>55329355
1060 has 196 bit bus tho
but i agree about 960 and 380
380 is clearly better of those 2

>Australia
>480 is more expensive than 970 which shits all over it.

I've refused to buy Nvidia for years after I dealt with hostile customer support from them almost a decade ago, but holy shit both the 300 and 400 range being complete fucking duds is really pushing it for me.

I'm more interested about the 480's supposedly out of spec power draw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/

>>55329334
Sadly the 970 is actually a far better deal than the 480 right now.

Their performance is nearly identical, but here are the prices:

480: $350
970: $250

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>>55329475
It's not really that big of a problem (i.e doesn't actually break motherboards) and it's actually pretty common. Picture related is how one particular GTX 960 draws power over the PCIe bus and it hasn't been reported to to cause blown motherboards or been recalled.

>>55329255
Sorry you've got blinders on

>>55329229
The irony is I live in the US and despise ignorant fucks like you

>>55329109
Macau

>>55329507
lol, show me this alleged $250 970

>>55328831

Hey there, I'm not biased at all (I own a graphics card) but I'd advise you to always buy Nvidia™, because Nvidia™ runs faster, cooler, and gives more frames and GHz when overclocked. Nvidia™ let's me play games The Way it's Meant to be Played, and with Nvidia's innovative GameWorks™ development framework powering over 90% of up and coming titles this year, you'd be a fool to even consider a card from an inferior company. I could talk to you about drivers (amd has none, not one driver) but you're probably already sold by now. Buy any Nvidia™ card at any price point and you will NOT be disappointed!

>>55329524
Uhh that doesn't go over the spec, the 480 is literally the only card to do so

>>55329548

Only with MIR included or in used market you will find 970 for that price point.

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>>55329507
>480: $350
??? Picture related

>>55329558
That's JUST for the PCIe bus, where 75W is the maximum allowed by spec.

AMDrones btfo.

>>55329548
>>55329563
Brand new 970, $247

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=186&sort=a8&page=1

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>>55329543
>find the SJW cuck

Kek amdfags on suicide watch

>>55329564
>not a single one in stock

Guess what buddy, AMD lied just like Nvidia did, you cannot and will not be able to buy them at that price for a very long time.

Check eBay if you want to see what it's going for, $350 and up.

>>55329601
Retard I'm a right wing trump supporter, I'm just not stupid enough to think the US is the only country that matters

>>55329564
>newegg doesnt do free shipping anymore
Literal jews

>>55328831
It's too power hungry to use a single 6 pin so the card is raping the pcie power.

I bet it's still being power limited in some way. Once we see dual power connector versions the efficiency will fall off a cliff.

>>55329543
That's not ironic. What I said is the truth. You can count on one hand the number of other countries that are important to quality of life in the US. And none of them happen to be in Europe. Until they actually start contributing back I don't care about their existence.

Also, you're probably not even from the US (probably Brazil) and it feels great you'd have to lie about such a thing to feel important.

>>55329597
the 480 doesn't even have a price on pcpartpicker
also where i live, the 970 is well over $360 for the cheapest one

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it's aight

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>>55329633
sure thing buddy

>>55329633
Its a budget card not worth over clocking anyway. I guarantee the aftermarket cards will have dual connectors.

>>55329651
>You can count on one hand the number of other countries that are important to quality of life in the US.

Sorry when you make a statement as dumb as that, it's not even worth continuing.

>>55329657
funny thing is i could find cheaper vapor-x 390x than a 480

>>55329627
>thinking the US isn't the only country that matters

>>55328831
>Costs more than a non-reference GTX 970 (Europe here)
So it doesn't cost more than a non-reference GTX970 outside of Europe

>>55329678
sure,I could buy a 2 year old corvette for cheaper than a new mustang that'll be faster, but it'll have worse efficiency and be worse overall

>>55328831
HOUSEFIRE MEME CARD

Plenty of stock still left over here in Blighty even with the inflated Brexit $

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/radeon-rx-480

>>55328886
You should get a 1080

>>55329627
>im just like you bro

>>55329700
>corvette
>mustang

lmao you sure think highly of amd products

>>55329028
Does it matter 1 euro is like .8 USD now

>>55329725
well, I'd consider econo boxes to be the intergrated graphics of the world, whereas anything somewhat sporty is the discrete gpu market

>>55329676
It's true. Look around your house at the origins of any products you own (if you're not a liar and actually live in the US). The ones that the US isn't self sufficient in making generally come from a handful of important places. If you live in the US, you may actually own nothing from Europe.

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>>55328831
Quick /g/ deal or no deal?

Get the Saphire 390X NITRO for $280 or wait for non reference RX480 for $250~300

>>55329597

>~$20 MIR and special codes included

>shilling this hard

>>55329714
Why not two?

>>55329827
wait for non reference

>>55328831
>Europe here
stopped reading

>>55329827
Wait to see how the power draw issue progresses.
Wait to see how the aftermarket 480's play out
Wait to see how the GTX 1060's compare performance and price to a 480

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>Everyone shitting on the 480 for not living up to expectations
>Getting it anyway because it's replacing a 7850 at a price point I'm comfortable with

You see, when you're at the bottom of the barrel, there's no where to go but up!

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even the nvidia kings are resigning.
they're all saying that the RX480 is the kawaiiest of them all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GdfDCq86Gk
(linus)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRDgiWBfs5I
(jayz)

>>55329827
390x is literally 30% faster than a 480.

getting tired of waiting for a 1070 to get close to the $375 nark to buy one. My pc lacks a gpu and I am contemplating on buying this.

>>55329099
>Silicon lottery?

yes, they clearly said only one of their cards could achieve such high clocks. 99% of people will only get to the mid 1350 mhz range with these new cards.

>>55329985
1070 equals crossfire 480

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>>55329979
it's all for the money. these people shill for anyone if they get paid.

>they actually went to jayz house

they must have feared him not taking the cash or something

>>55329981
>30% faster

sure buddy

THIS CRAPPY POO CARD MADE THE PRICES OF NVIDIA CARDS GO UP BY ANOTHER $50 FUCK YOU AMD

>>55329475
>>55329524
If you actually read what's going on, the card isn't actually drawing that extra power from the slot. It can't do that, and even if it could, it would still prefer PSU power and overdraw the PSU cables first. A 6-pin PCIe connector is rated at 75W but can safely deliver 120W or more. There is no way to accurately measure the power pushed through the PCI slot itself. People are talking about a riser adapter... If it were that easy, don't you think more reviewers would at least try to do these precise measurements? Well they don't, because it's not that easy.

The extra power is being drawn through the 6-pin connector, not the motherboard. Every card on the market that overdraws does it through its PSU connectors, or we would have blown motherboards left right and centre.

Inb4
>oh, it's DIFFERENT this time, the 480 is BROKEN

No, it's not different. The PCIe slot is literally incapable of supplying enough wattage to cause damage to the motherboard.

Your PSU is what COULD sustain damage, and is much more robustly built, so relax.

>overclock 5%
>gets more than 10% fps increase

w-wait for the custom coolers

I want to see someone watercooling this before buying it.

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Explain this

>>55328831
>Costs more than a non-reference GTX 970
Stopped reading right there. Stop being a cuck.

>>55330154
>Project Goy
What do I have to explain?

>>55329079
Having this mentality that you lower tiered white people known as europeans are relevant lol cry more

Wasn't this card supposed to have anti-goyworks hardware built into it? What the fuck happened?

>>55328927
>europe
>irrelevant
>us
>330 million people
vs
>880 million people
Kill yourself

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what's better a refurb'd msi 970 or a new reference 480?

>>55330225
Please tell me why potato farmers are relevant to GPUs?

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>>55330102
hide this

>>55330225
Doesn't really count when 550 million of that 880 million are immigrants

>>55330154
What about this >>55329348

>>55330102
>There is no way to accurately measure the power pushed through the PCI slot itself. People are talking about a riser adapter... If it were that easy, don't you think more reviewers would at least try to do these precise measurements?

That's exactly what they do, idiot.

But most reviewers have no knowledge of electrical engineering.

So like only two sites actually conducted that test.

>>55330271
>implying that usa wasn't built on immigration

get out.

>>55330154
Why are benchmarks always of games nobody gives a shit about?

ITS HAPPENING

AMD MELTDOWN

MASS RECALL ON ALL CARDS

>>55330247
I'm gonna make bad assumption and say a 8GB RX 480 will be better for cost and futureproofing

>>55330313
ashes of singularity is a game everyone gives a shit about though, right?

>>55330225
>880 million people
>still can't keep up with US economy made of 330 million

>>55328992
No it's not europoor union soon will be done

>>55330313
Because all the games people care about are console ports or esports garbage which runs on toasters

>>55330332
Whom are you quoting?

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>>55330154
zomg guise stop posting hitman and aots benches. it's sooo unfair.

>>55329278
You do realize Americans have to pay sales tax too, right? It's just a charge that gets tacked on after, instead of being shown on the price tag.

>>55330302
being built on immigration 300 years ago and inviting mudpeople into your stable nation in this current era just to prove you're diverse are two completely different things.

But we'll pretend the rapes and murders to the native eurocucks don't happen.

>Costs more than a non-reference GTX 970
What the fuck, no it doesn't.
>(Europe here)
Stopped reading, into the trash it goes. Stop pretending you're relevant to video card discussion or make a subreddit for your stupid ass country/region.

The 970 is around 270€, the 480 is avaiable at 220€.
Stop pushing that "970 is cheaper in europe" meme

>>55329616
I don't think it's lying per say.
MSRP is just a suggestion .
Venders can charge $1,000 for a 480 is they want.

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>>55328831
Gift to you.

Not sure what people get out of these threads spreading blatent lies. Buyers remorse feels so bad? I wouldn't know I don't own a 970

>>55330345
I have no sales tax here

>>55330302
USATARD BTFO
ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>55330345
>You do realize Americans have to pay sales tax too, right?
Not all Americans. Not to mention there are loopholes.

Certain states do not pay taxes. All states have different taxes. Most states do not charge taxes for out-of-state purchases.

Not to mention that certain products just flat-out aren't taxed.

>>55330370
970 costs more because it's better, ATidiot.

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>>55330299
I wonder who could be behind those two sites.

>>55330402
Just like your mom compared to other crackwhores

>>55330370
it is though. here in the uk ajn aftermarket 970 is £20 cheaper and across a lot of europe the 970 is cheaper. people were posting their prices in like croatia and netherlands and the 480 was over 300 euro and the 970 was 235 euro

>>55330387
Well first it was the 3.5gb fiasco. Now that you can get a card that performs the same in DX11 and performs much better in DX12/Vulkan for only $200, that's just a slap in the face for 970 owners.

>>55330370
If I want to go and buy Rx480 off the self it would cost 319€
>FUCK OFF

>>55330387
People like to feel secure in their decisions. There is are many people, especially young people that are the primary market for gaming, that will rationalize their poor decisions. If they accept that there is something better now, then they may feel like they were wrong to buy something, and they will lash out.

>>55330387
People are afraid to admit they made a terrible purchase. A lemon

>>55330247
The 480 mainly because the PS4k will essentially be working off of similar specs so the ports should run well at 1080p. Still tho I'd just wait on the cards with better coolers and power management. They should be out by the end of the month.

>>55330271
Kek
Fucking Yuropoor

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so if i'm buying in 3 months what card?

Don't really want a house fire 970 but I guess i'll get one if it's really that much cheaper compared to the rx480.

I need a card less than 400cnd.

You were my last hope amd. :(

>FALLING FOR AMD'S SHADY MARKETING TACTICS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ITA1_XoqM

>>55328831
I'm from europe and the 480 is cheaper than the 970, stop lying.

>>55330418
>that's just a slap in the face for 970 owners
>literally saying that a brand new card being somewhat on-par with a 2-year old card is a good thing
This isn't even damage control anymore.

>>55330271
>Doesn't really count when 550 million of that 880 million are immigrants
>implying immigrants can't buy GPU's with gibsmedats

I'm waiting in this thread because everyone else seems to be waiting for something. I am not sure what that is mind.

>>55330412
>lying out of your ass
https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=gra16_512&asd=on&asuch=Rx480&sort=p


https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=gra16_512&asd=on&asuch=Gtx%20970&sort=p

190 bongdollars (480) vs 210 bongs (970)

>>55330420
Maybe if you live in a shithole like romania

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>>55330446

>>55330418
>that's just a slap in the face for 970 owners.

how is this a slap in the face for anyone? most people who bought 970/390/290x (similar performance) bought them a long time ago. explain to me how this is a slap in the face for any of them

that's like saying a card from this year is a slap in the face for someone who bought a card 10 years ago because it's faster and cheaper.

i know your post was probably bait, but i had to say this anyway.

>>55328831
Stopped reading when I got to 'europe'....I think you misspelled 'arabian peninsula'.

What exactly do Isis member like yourself need with graphics cards?

>>55330418
>>55330423
>>55330432

glad to see some people here didn't succumb to total retardation

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>>55330446
+
>>55330473

>>55330418
This 480 gives no 970 owners a reason to upgrade .
Same goes for 290x and 390+ users

>>55330271
False
There is atleast 15 muslims in whole eyrope
Biggest shitholes are germany and france

>>55330470
>posting a german website and not an english price comparison website

from a 30 second google search i found a 970 even cheaper than the one you showed, and there are more that are even cheaper which i can't be bothered to search for because i've already checked my pricing and i know the 970 is cheaper.

http://www.ebuyer.com/663452-zotac-geforce-gtx-970-4gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-zt-90101-10p

>>55330479
Cant hear you with all those negros and hispanics shouting in the background.

>>55330470
>shithole
>Finland
Pick one

>>55330460
The 480 is $200 and the 970 was $330+ at launch.

Compared to the CPU world, that's a huge step forward for everyone. For comparison, the i5-4690 came out 2 years ago and for the same price today you get basically the same performance.

>>55330495
Its still more expensive than
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/xfx-radeon-rx-480-core-edition-4096mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-sold-out-gx-239-xf.html

>>55330489
I don't think you understand the market at which the 480 is aimed

>>55330489
they don't indeed.
Not to mention the fact thye're all one tier or more above and wouldn't even be looking at this price point in the first place.

/gcg/ here.
>>55330523
>>55328831

>>55330522
That's not even comparable
>New car is advertised with 4 wheels
>It only has 3
>People buy it full price
>New car comes out, has all four wheels and is slightly cheaper
>Runs slightly better than the other one
>Buyer's remorse and damage control
>W-WOW YOU CAN STILL DRIVE PERFECTLY FINE ON 3 WHEELS. I MEAN COME ON, 4 IS OVERKILL AND YOU'RE DUMB IF YOU BUY IT

>>55330525
as i've said before, there are 970's cheaper than that and they're aftermarket. i can't be bothered to search it up again just to prove you wrong but they exist. they're the gtx 970 mini which are super cheap in some places. ~£165.

>>55330503
Well, NVIDIA managed to completely crush every single card on power consumption, performance AND price. AMD managed to be on par with 970 and so late that the price are almost identical already.

I'm usually trying to believe on AMD, but this is very bad for them. If 970 had 4gb nvidia wouldn't even need to make a 1060.

The good thing for AMD is that they still have the consoles.

>have a 260X
>have a 6300
>wanna upgrade

Is it even worth it?

>>55330345
>>55330392
All hail oruhgone

>>55330580
I guess so.

We need an alternative to these Poo and Jew companies in the discrete GPU market.

>>55330247
sauce?

bait or na?

>>55330569
480 is better than 970 on stock

good luck overclocking the 480 behind anything 5%

>>55330636
Fair enough, but my point still stands

>>55330497
The majority of hispanics are decent folk though.

Not to mention hispanics as a whole dislike the negros and muslims so they're valuable allies.

>>55330571
>source: my ass

>>55330480
It's something that happens as you grow older.

Even if I made a poor decision buying a video card, that's just a few hundred bucks. I've made much worse decisions than that, so no sense getting worked up about it.

>>55330479
They need guys for bomb design

>>55330636
who even gives a fuck about overclocking?
>muh overclocking
>muh watercooling instead of huge radiators and quiet fans
>muh vr
please die

>>55330654
whatever man. i ain't spending more time shuffling though 50 different websites to find that deal again. you're the one who wants to know so bad so you search for it.

good luck

>>55330573

Power consumption and performance are only hold true for higher-end tiers.

It is far less clear with pricing as you have previous generation parts competing against new generation stuff.

Frankly, 480 is the sorely needed game changer in the lackluster $199-$249 range.

>>55330503
The problem is that you're comparing a brand new card to a 2-year old card.

If both cards were released at the same time you would have merit, however saying there's a a ~$100 difference so the 480 is better is just stupid. The 480 is current generation while the 970 is last generation.

Paying ~$330 for a card 2 years that still beats or is on-par with a literally just released card that retails for ~$230 is a pretty good investment.

You can't compare GPUs to CPUs.

>>55330701
the 480 costs $350 hands-down cash
no non-tax bullshit
this is how much if fucking costs
meanwhile, the 1080 costs $1000
yes, in fucking europe

The 970 is dead in the water, Sure you might be able to get one cheaper than a 480. But it's missing .5GB of memory and the 8GB 480 is probably the better buy in that regard anyhow. But think about this. The drivers for the 970 are 'mature'. They are unlikely to give anymore performance boosts in the coming months. The 480 like many other AMD card tend to improve with age. Expect some games to get a boost later on and when it comes to DX12, depsite there not being many of them right now for those that are out and will eventually come out it's a win win. The drivers performance in DX12 can only get better on that too. VR? Fuck VR it's just a marketing tool. Until we get sub $200 VR headsets that are not complete shit it's just another gimmick anyhow. Let those richfags piss their cash away on that pipedream.

Investing in a 970 right now unless you get it for AT LEAST $50 less than a 4Gb 480 is a waste. Better to invest a little more in a third party 480 when they arrive.

For those wanting to upgrade from a 290/390/970 however it may not be worth it. But it really depends on your needs/wants and available cash. If you can afford it get a 1070 (if you can find one at an affordable price) if upgrading from those cards.

>>55330687
dude, are you even trying? Time to stop posting, go sleep or something.

>>55330702
they should fucking price the 970 accordingly then and it would stop being a comparison. 30% price reduction of they ever want to sell another 970

>muh 8gb VRAM
The question of the day is does the 480 even have enough power to make full use out of that 8gb?

Just since we're comparing muh 3.5 to muh 8gb

>>55330738
8gb? Probably not, but more than 4? sure

>>55330724
>thee drivers for the 970 are 'mature'
you are wrong, newfag
nvidia is known for just giving the finger to last gen cards. amd drivers still give radeon 7000 series enough fuel to fuck nvidia in the ass for many more years. i still have no reason to upgrade from my 7950. it's how they hot away with rebranding the 7000 series to this day
>oh look, it's 200 series now
>oh look, it's 300 series now with faster ram and 256bit instead of 384bit
>oh look, we are still fucking nvidia in the ass

>>55330733
>they should fucking price the 970 accordingly then and it would stop being a comparison. 30% price reduction of they ever want to sell another 970

are you retarded or something? nvidia don't even need to sell another 970. 970 production stopped a long time ago and all the remaining 970's are just old stock. they have the 1070 to replace the 970 now and the 970's time has gone. the 1060 will be the new card that will be compared to the 480, not the old 970.

use your brain for once.

>>55329979
Jay has always been fairly positive of amd cards and even vishera cpu's.

>>55330771
>they have 1070
all they have is price gouging and 0 available cards to sell, friendo

>>55328831
>two years old gimped cripple card

i think it would of sounded better as "crippled gimp card"

>>55330733
They don't want to sell another 970. Retailers might want to get rid of old stock, but they probably don't care and Nvidia sure doesn't care.

The focus is now completely on the 10 series. The 9 series is out of the picture.

Anyone who buys a last-generation card is pretty dumb. You should always shoot for a current generation card when buying new.

>>55330792
nvidia still produces plenty of 900 series chips. you're just too retarded to understand
meanwhile, they have very limited 1000 series supplies

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>>55328831
>Nvidias 970 is a fucking two years old gimped cripple card and it is still a clearly better choice than the 480.

>>55329209
Talk like a true mofo

>>55330765

I dunno my 6970 says otherwise. It's not a awful card plays the games I play fine, but I got a free oculus rift and I can't even verify the fucking thing works because oculus software won't install because apparently my drivers are too old.

I'm sure nvidia is just aw awful though, just saying amd doesn't give a fuck about old cards either.

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>>55329250

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>>55330835
>being this much of a spastic

you should probably get some sleep.

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he will do it, the madman.

I am become smash, the destroyer of cards.

get hype.

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>>55330930
he has pretty big plans for it.

>>55328920
The 960 was shit since release, the 280x was cheaper over a year before the 960 was announced and it is definitely more powerful both then and now.

There are degenerates here loosing their shit just because they heard "Europe"
There are degenerates here loosing their shit just because they heard "Overlocking"
There are degenerates here saying others should die just because that other has different opinion
There are degenerates here who bring out facts out of their ass when clearly everyone sane can see that its false
Bunch of degenerates, been here 1 minute over past year and already feeling infected by degenerates

>>55330765
>nvidia is known for just giving the finger to last gen cards
because they dont have shit drivers on release, must be nice knowing in about two years the 480 might be a good card.

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AMD USERS CONFIRMED FOR LITERALLY BEING KEKS

>>55329743
It's steadily been dropping for years. Nothing at all to be proud about. You did notice that everyone releases prices of products in US Dollars, right?

>>55328911
It's all nvidia shills, there's been like 100 of these three past week, but before that there were none

>>55330854

You're right man, what's the point of gaming without that extra 4 fps?

My question is when will there be non-reference cards out to test? Nobody with a brain wastes money on reference cards

>>55329106
Fuck off were full

>>55330078
No, it made them fire sale the rest of their inventory. Why do you think the 970 is so cheap? Shit and irrelevant now.

>>55330997
3.5 maymay

>>55330987
Cuck would be wife's son tard

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>>55330987
never gets old

>>55330302
Immigration of white people, yes.

>>55330345
Only in retail stores, or online merchants that have a physical location in the state they are selling said product. Usually sales tax will be 7-9%

>>55330993
It's not shills. It's just people getting tired of being let down by AMD.

Nvidia was properly chewed out for the 3.5 fiasco, meanwhile AMD shills are saying a literal fire hazard "is of no concern or hay look it barely beats a 970 from 2 years ago buy it nao".

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>>55330987

>>55330993
I have a theory that the shills (ALL of them) do their internship here at 4chan; and they also test their tentative spins here first and tone them down for more civilized fora when they find a sucessful new meme.

Yes, there shills and fanbois everywhere but it's a lot worse in here, I hardly ever try to have a decent discussion here and tend to stick strictly to shitposting most of the time.

>>55328831
Why do a lot of European countries price their cards way differently than the manufacturer's own USD prices? Is it trade tariffs or taxes, how the VAT is calculated, or something else? Whoever controls those prices fucks you over

>>55330489
You must be retarded to think a $200 card would be a great replacement for a $350-450 card.

>>55331043
No damage has occurred from this and the review sites were running Furmark for 100% stress and peak power draw you'd never see in the real world

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>>55330993
Just one thing though: they're always here.

>>55330571
>970 mini
And you probably think a 480 is the real housefire??

>>55330636
Oh wow, a 970 can achieve 1500mhz. What happens when the 3.5 gimps it at those clock speeds? Is it really that great if it can overclock, but it has a governor on performance, intentionally designed by nvidya to not cut into 980 sales? The new 1060 only has 3gb, why do you think that is?

>>55329330
With how spot on videocardz.com has been this cycle, the 1060 is going to be utter garbage.
2.8Gflops
1150MHz boost clock
1500MHz memory clock (6000Hz effective)
1280 cores 80 TMUs and 40 ROPS (the one thing better than RX 480)
6GB GDDR5 and 192-bit bus width with 144GB/s bandwidth

Meanwhile th e RX 480 is
2304 cores 144 TMUs 32 ROPs (the one spot the 1060 beats out the Rx 480)
1266MHz base clock
2000Hz memory clock (8000Hz effective)
5.8Gflops
4/8GB GDDR5
256-bit bus
256GB/s bandwidth

>>55330377
>I don't think it's lying per say.
>MSRP is just a suggestion .
>Venders can charge $1,000 for a 480 is they want
Except the MAIN SELLING POINT of this card was the price.

And now it doesn't even have that.

>>55329355
My Chinese sit HIS r9 280 shits all over the 960

>>55330993
I don't even know why they care so much about any of these companies so passionately. It is lack of social interaction I believe. This is where people come to argue, no matter what the position. It gives them a scene of belonging to something greater than their own existence.

>>55331156
and for $250 nvidia will offer a 1060 ti that will devastate the 480.

>>55331156
The 1060 is also going to be performance competitive with the 480 and use like 100w compared to 150(NOT the same or better, I think, but competitive)

All Njewdia has to do is lower the price on a 2 year old card to beat AMD's latest and greatest.

Sad day for gaymers.

>>55328831
>Europe
In fact, why does AMD hate Europe so badly? An RX 480 costs the equivalent of almost $400 here.

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>>55328831

>Europe
Nobody cares.
>*Despite 14nm still same efficiency as old 28nm 970s
Nobody cares.
>*Violates PCIe specification due to too high power draw from the slot
Nobody cares
>*Literally no overclock headroom
Nobody cares.
>*Extremely cheap cooler who makes the card run hot AND is somewhat loud
Nobody cares because who the fuck uses the stock cooler on anything anymore?

>>55331198
nvidia knows how into power efficiency.

amd use to know with the 3000, 4000, and 5000 series but then forgot.

>>55331222
It's not AMD. Everyone hates Europe.

Even Europe hates Europe and that's why the EU is finally starting to literally come apart at the seams.

>>55331202
>all they need to do is lower prices
>Njewdya
>lower prices
>prices

mass suicide from Nvidia employees ensue.

>>55329177
The 970 is 250€ in Scandinavia. Thanks neetbux

>>55331173
Blame your government, or your shitty tariffs, or your shitty import fees, or your shitty VAT. You build a proverbial walled fortress to protect your shitty wine and cheese, while your precious member states have effectively cut you off from free trade from the rest of the world.
But blame AMD for pricing it in US Dollars, that will help you forget for a little time what a cucked continent you live in. Until next time you want to purchase anything other than domestic wine and cheese.

>>55330716
what are you even arguing?
Yes, we get it, Europe fucking sucks for buying electronics.

Whatever the past history of development that this GPU or the Polaris line has experienced or was intended for the facts are the AMD Radeon RX 480 is a $199-$239 video card that offers the same performance as the Radeon R9 390 and GeForce GTX 970.

>What did he mean by this?

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>>55331195
ooohhh ho ho! Jolly good ribbing, chap! Say, whats this I hear of 3gb for $250 in 2016? Thats the real joke I hear!

>>55329700
The corvette's in another league friend.

>>55331257
Well considering Nvidia is a largely asian company, suicide is practically their heritage whether it's by a sword, top floor of a factory, or even a casual stroll into the forest.

>>55329475
Don't worry its a panic meme from nVidia to try and stop AMD from gobbling up the mid-low end market shares.
This is the one thing nVidia is worried about, which is good for the market anon.
Even if the 480 turns out to be shit it's scaring nVidia into pushing out the 1060 prematurely just like the paper launch of the 1070 and 1080.
I don't hate nVidia, I plan to buy a 1080 Yi when it releases and a RX490 as well and run them both in DX12 multi GPU configuration.
This is just the accurate depiction of what is going on in the market.
nVidia rushed their release to beat AMD to launch, AMD in response is gobbling up the mid range and low end market share just like they said they were planning to do and that they weren't targeting nVidia but the low to midrange market with Polaris 10 and 11.
AMD has been accurate and forthcoming this time and didn't build excess hype for once so there isnt retarded expectations this time.
The RX 480 is doing what it was advertised to do, and quite well, for a fair price.
The PSU power cable is what, if any, excess power draw to the graphics card is coming from.
If it were high amperage or voltage then there would be something to worry about but with motherboards being designed the way they are and the GPUs running on sub 5V and less than 5A it's not going to hurt your mobo if it pushed 100W through your PCIe, which it wont, and your mobo voltage controllers will not allow such voltage to come through it, only through the PSU cable.

>>55331280
Has a hard time saying it's a great card for $200.

If you are upgrading from a 290/390/970 get a 1070 in July as EVGA are gonna pump out plenty of stock.

If you want a 480 and are coming from a 380x or 960 get the third party coolers.

If coming from shit tier cards or first time GPU buyer and need a value card now get a 480 (But go for the 8GB if you can).

If you are an Nvidia fanboy stop sucking Jewish cock.

If you are an AMD fanboy stop shitting in the streets (and these threads).

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>>55331063
>>55331080
>>55331188

I don't even care that much either, but notice how generally this board is slightly amd biased, but then a week out from and amd release there's suddenly a million anti-amd threads.

Makes you wonder.

>>55331254
I'd like to argue that Europe and the EU are different things.

>>55328973
Dude, seriously, brand loyalty hurts you.
Go for the best option and quit caring where it comes from.

>>55331320
>If you want a 480 and are coming from a 380x or 960 get the third party coolers.

They're not going to add a big markup for thoes that are they? I had my poorfag heart set on $250 max to spend on this.

>>55331280
He's butthurt AMD didn't shit out a high end card.

>>55331351
It's just kids that want to argue for the sake of arguing I believe. Surely none of them stand behind these companies in real life the way they do on here?

>>55331369
There is nothing stopping you from getting the reference but the performance boost and noise and temps may be wroth the extra stretch. If you can't you can't though.

>>55329250
1070 x?

>>55331369
At release they will be artificially inflated due to demand. After that, you will have models that are more than reference, and models at the same price. Depends how fancy you want your cooling. Happened with every card, every time.

>>55331425
GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G | MSI USA | Graphics card - The ...

>>55328831
After all this years i learn that the shilling against a product is directly proportional to how good that product is.

>>55331233

They make power efficient cards by gimping all their compute capabilities. It does work though, becase everybody just thinks they're geniuses (or that AMD are retards).

Meanwhile people wonder how AMD is getting so much performance in DX12/Vulkan. Gee I wonder how

>>55329145
Who the hell plays BF4 on DX11 on an AMD card.

>>55329995
This is not true, crossfire (when it works) 480s are quite a bit better than the 1070, and have even reached 1080 level performance in some instances. But you have to deal with the whole crossfire bullshit, so theres that.

>'value' card
>needs to be paired with an i7 to compensate for driver overhead
>needs expensive motherboard and PSU to deal with the out-of-spec power draw
At least you save on your heating bill!

>>55331609
>But you have to deal with the whole crossfire bullshit, so theres that.

stfu shill, theres literally ZERO problems with crossfire.

dx12 multi-gpu don't need drivers to work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50

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>>55331675
"Driver overhead"? really? Do you not have a cpu made after 2011?
What about all those poor 960 owners we all hear about all the time with their fried motherboards, blown power supplies, and burned out houses? Where?

>>55331681
0/10

>>55331708
there was only one 960 where this was a problem, it was the Strix, and that wasn't novidea's fault

>>55331195
Except that's the proposed MSRP for the 3GB 1060 reference card.

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>>55331708
>dat driver overhead tho

>>55331722
And only one reviewer had a problem card, maybe? Maybe the same reviewer that didn't have a problem recommending the same 960? Where are all the people that had problems with ASUS cards? Where? Not one?

I'm so fucking happy

R9 390 > GTX 970 > RX 480
The truth hurts that the 480 only wins in DX 12. Better off buying a 390 on sale. like other posters said the 480 is a sidegrade compared to the other two cost effective cards I mentioned. Pass if you are like the 15% that already own one of the two.

>>55331708
Saved on my heating bill, and it's a better card! At least it was in sHitman... And before it burned my house down...

>>55331198
I have a hard time seeing it be very competitive performance wise but they could do some magic with memory compression formats.
I see it being slower than the 480 in game use, and I mean I see the 6GB 1060 being slower than the 4GB RX 480.
We will see and I'd love for the 6GB 1060 to beat the shit out of the 8GB 480 for $230 but I just don't see it happening

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/

holy shit glad newegg sucks ass at fucking local delivery and failed to get it out of its warehouse to me like their local express delivery is supposed to do

>>55328831
>Euirope here

Maybe if you guys made your own cards instead of relying on American imports you wouldn't have to waste your time with this.

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>>55331741
Oh wow, Game works cripples performance on all cards. Not surprising since it is intended to make AMD card perform sub par.

>>55331757

480 is probably a decent sidegrade/minor upgrade from the 970 considering nVidia stopped giving a shit about optimizing drivers for the 900 series. You also get at least 0.5 more RAM

>>55331447
So not refereceive but the best available 1070. Seems like a fair comparison to anything reference lol

>>55328831
>lets sum it up
>card is a replacement for 380/960
>achieves 970/390 level
>beats the shit out 380/960
>nvidia fags are happy that their 500-700€ cards are better
> op is a fag

>>55331782
>American imports

nigga what? you really think these cards are made in the us? they're manufactured in chink shitholes and sent everywhere else.

>>55331847
American companies I guess is what he meant

>>55328831
I got a 980 three months ago, did I fuck up?

>>55331888
980 was always the shittiest price-performance card. Hope you didn't give much

>>55331888
depends what you paid for it, but you didn't miss out on anything with the 480, this card is a turd

>>55331901
I got it on sale a bit back from Newegg

>>55331792
All dat overhead with a 5960x
kek

What chance the 1060 performing slightly better than 980 at $250?

>>55331888
I bought a 980 8 months ago off eBay for cheap. I've overclocked it to over 1500mhz and it's faster than a 980 stock now. It's gonna last me ages till the gtx 1170 comes out so I can upgrade.

>>55331906

Got it for $505. Did win the lottery though and made $2k two weeks later so I wasn't worried.

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>>55331908
It's fine, as long as you are happy with it.

>>55331935
980 ti stock *

>>55331926
same or much less than the 480
comes with 3gb standard for $250
at least if you find a 980 on firesale, it would have 4gb

>>55331940
yeah you fucked up cause you could have bought a 1070 for that

>>55331926
Absolutely fucking none

>>55331982
t. Rajeesh

>>55331940
You play the lottery, and buy a 980 3 months before a new generation.
I'm mentally deducting IQ points as I type this from my initial assessment of you.

>>55331926
If anyone can do it it'd be nvidia. It's whether they want to or not. They'll probably target the same level of performance as the 480 but have better efficiency, clocks, heat output etc instead of targeting 980 performance and having similar power consumption as the 480.

>>55330664
True enough....

>>55330716
Look they have to tax the everloving shit out of europoors...otherwise who's gonna buy all the free shit for the invading army?

>>55332034
they didnt with the 960

>>55332235
The 960 was targeted at a whole different type of gamer than the 380 was. I remember following the 960 release and I kept seeing adverts for it being a MOBA card like "play dota 2 in 4k!!" and not a mainstream graphics card for modern titles.. they probably won't make the sake mistake twice.

Also it was considerably more efficient than the 380, it just didn't have the raw performance.

>>55332299
I actually wish someone would release a new gen 960

I just want something that can get decent frames in gta V and ff XIV that will stay cool in a case with a couple of fans

>>55331132
>What happens when the 3.5 gimps it at those clock speeds
>>55330854

>>55332368
1060 unveil is on the 7th. Images of the 1060 have leaked in chink land and nvidia are holding a press conference event on the 7th.

>>55332450
I saw that. The $250* (as if there will be one anywhere near $250 in the foreseeable future) price point is a little steep for what I'm looking for. I guess a 4gb 470 will be my last hope, though I'm not optimistic.

>>55332517
You forget that the founders edition is more expensive than the AIB cards. Stupid, I know but that still puts AIB prices at reference 480 prices where's AIB 480s will be at founders edition prices. Slightly confusing.

>>55332548
Whereas*

>>55332548
well that's good news

if I can get a 1060 with some decent cooling for $200-$225 I'll be a happy camper

>>55330987

>dating a women who previously had a relationship with a man and a child is weakness

Stay immature /g/

>>55332649
Spotted the cuck

Look for the price it's fine. Lets move on already.

>>55332823
Are you kidding me?!
Don't ever talk to me or my wife's son like that again!

>>55328831
bump limit?

what is the bump limit?