/gcg/ - graphic card general

>>55330523
Finally. Thank you OP!

I have an old HD6870, with a gigabyte cooler non reference.

Could I buy the rx480 and put that cooler on it? Is it compatible? I also have a gtx260 with a non reference cooler, could I use that instead?

>another cucksumer shit general

Kill yourself

1440p gaming

which card? Preferably over 60 FPS in games like witcher 3, Doom, Tomb Raider

>>55330567
Anything better than a 390x/980 will do.
R9 Fury probably.

Why are there two threads?
>>55329520

>>55330598
>thinly veiled maki thread
Or
>/gcg/ graphics card general

Which do you think is better?
One of them was made purely to bait shitposts, I think you know which one.

>>55330598
the other is for weebs

theoretically speaking, if I can get a new 970 for a lower price than a reference 480, why should I bother with AMD

>inb4 gimped drivers, 3.5 and other memes
the 970 performs better in all relevant games

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>>55330523
>This is far better than flooding up the board with gpu and maki threads?

fuck off with your anti-gpu spam.

Just ask your mom nicely for a RX 480

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>>55330523
>>55330545
>>55330556

Same person.

>>55330631
If you can get a 970 for cheaper then it might be the better deal, depending on how much cheaper.

480 is only slightly faster than a 970, but for 1440p it's definitely the better option.

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>>55330653
>>55330638
>>55330598
>>55330556
Please stop shitting up this thread and this board and keep posts thread related.
This is /gcg/ graphics card general.

>>55330675
or else what?

>>55330660
marginally cheaper, but I'm not going to bother with the reference model.

I'm worried that the aftermarket cards will be even more expensive than this reference shit... even and shill from TEK syndicate said the AMD card looks cheap.

>>55330703
Aftermarket will definitely cost more than reference, and it's a cheap reference design too.

If the 970 is $20 or more cheaper then its an awesome deal.

>>55330545
Bumping for this. If I can use my old coolers I'll just pick up a reference card.

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>199usd
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
REEEEEEE

>>55330523
Thank you op. Hopefully other threads will just die off now.

>>55330545
Interesting idea, aren't coolers universal? Cause if not then third party coolers would be a dick to manufacture.

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It's disappointing that the reference cooler is so mediocre because it looks really nice in my opinion.

I wonder when we're going to see Sapphire and XFX aftermarket cards.

>>55330799
The 8GB model is $240USD, AUD I assume?

Yes, I'm poor but not THAT poor.

I want my AMD. Nvidia is a no-no

Fuck it, I'm getting a 480. Should I be an impatient fuck and buy the reference or wait a month or two for customs to come out?

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>>55330799
no need to thank me

>>55330849
>aren't coolers universal?
on a GPU?

No.

Why is it that with every release, both nvidia and amd fall into their stereotypes? nvidia with the founders edition to get an extra $100 from the goyim, and amd just absolutely shitting themselves?

What message does it send that your flagship, is as good as the GTX970. a midrange card from last generation? Why do we have to deal with this shit companies?

>>55330799
you're in australia?

>>55330873
if you want your MB to burn out due to high power draw from reference, I'd say buy reference

>>55330799
that's a lot of money.

>>55330857
Yep. Aud.

It's ridiculously more expensive. Looks like I'll wait for used 970 and 980s, 390x and furies to drop since new prices just don't seem worth it.

>>55330883
Why didn't the reference 480 have a vapor chamber or at least a couple of heatpipes?

>>55330885
Yep, kmn

>>55330895
That won't happen, have you seen the strix 960? Up to 250w from mobo and it's still fine.

Fuck off, we don't need anymore garbage general threads. It's just faggots asking questions in here and they belong in Stupid Questions General

Sage

SLI @ 1440p w/PG279Q. Y/N?

Whats the power draw of GPU's when idle?? Should I get a 390 if I don't game that often?

I mean, it has better performance and doesn't cost that much more than 480.

SLI gtx680 4gb, or upgrade to a used 290x?
From what I can see, 290x is slightly better than a 480.

Thoughts?

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Guys I think my graphics card is failing.
Never happened to me.


Its a oldish ( it was not mine) Radeon HD7850 2gb. Started crashing everything with black screens sometimes red with stripes.

I have new ram installed and I sure hope its not the hdd or the psu. After unnistalling the drivers in safe mode and booting up with the card disabled windows functions properly, in fact iam using it right now.

I tried installing the new drivers and after entering windows the screen has horizontal artifacts and crashes a few seconds later.


Any anons with the same experience?

>>55330883
>Why do we have to deal with this shit companies?
Because fanboys.

Fanboys constantly excusing Nvidia's poor practices and high prices don't give them a reason to change.

Fanboys constantly forgiving AMD's fuckups and poor performance don't give them a reason to improve.

They just don't understand yes, it's good to have AMD around for competition, but that doesn't mean they have to suck AMD's dick unconditionally.

Nvidia, for better or worse, has earned the privilege to engage in poor practices and jack up prices because they constantly and consistently release the superior product. Even their "faulty" product the 970 retains kind of it's performance range 2+ years later against a brand new card.

>>55330937
Neither. Why buy a card two generations behind? That's just idiotic and a waste of money.

If absolutely anything, just get a 4gb 960.

How much are vega cards going to cost?

>>55330963
My gtx680 outperformed my friends gtx 960 while I was on 1080p.

Now I'm on 1600p and I want something better.

Looking to leave the console meme. I already have a 144hz monitor. Building a new pc. What gpu should i look into to take the best advantage of this monitor?

>>55331004
144hz 4k?

>>55331004
Gtx1080

>>55330937
Multi GPU setups are a pain since most games don't support it out of the box, you'll be left at the mercy of driver update to make things playable.

>>55330883
Because its new and will receive more support. And its cheap, and is slightly better. Who in their right mind will buy an older card even if its the same price? Plus AMD is probably going to release a high power card eventually.

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So with the release of the 1070 -

Should I pick up a cheap AF 980ti ~400$ if I'm still at 1080p or wait until stock replenishes on a 1070 and buy at ~$450+?

Currently have a 970 meme card

>>55331030
I understand that, but I think I'll be fine since I never buy anything on launch and I currently only play bf4 and gta v.

>>55330523
dual-core i5 with intel hd 3000 here, feels good man.

Anyone got the same?

>>55331134
2nd gen?

>>55331004
depends on what games. a 480 can drive league, dota and cs to 144 easily

>>55331134
laptop?

>>55330975
A lot because it will burn your house.

>>55331167
It's fine I live in antartica

>>55331165
yup.

>>55331112
>at 1080p
>970

You should stay right where you are.

If you want a 1070 wait until July when EVGA is gonna pump out stock.

If you want a 480 and are coming from a 380x or 960 get the third party coolers.

If coming from shit tier cards or first time GPU buyer and need a value card now get a 480 (But go for the 8GB if you can).

If you are an Nvidia fanboy stop sucking Jew cock..

If you are an AMD fanboy stop shitting in the streets (or these threads).

>>55330584
>recommending the 980/390x when the 480 is mostly the same thing but more efficient and cheaper

How fucked would I be if I bought Pascal?

>>55331300
He said anything better than those...

>>55331251
>thinking the 1070 will be in volume by july
Its not happening until fall at best

>>55331322
those cards can easily do 1440p 60 fps, you dont need anything more than a 980, 390x or 480

Asked this in the /sqt/, might as well ask it here:

Should I get a second hand GTX 770 for 150€ and SLI that fucker with my current GTX 770 or should I get one of the newer cards? I'll be mostly playing Arms 3 & modded STALKER.

Also generally speaking how much more performance power does SLI/FireWire provide? About 1.5x?

>>55331013
1440p

>>55331301
very

>>55330901
it's the right price at PCCG and other aus stores, always check staticice.com.au

(the right price = converted from usd + 30 john howard tax)

>>55331348
See
>>55330523

>gtx980 56.8
>r9 390 55.4

He wanted 1440p 60 fps.

>r9 fury 64.6 fps

How did I mess up?

>>55331352
New card m8
That 2gb will be hard to manage

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>le cf damage control

AMDfag are so funny.

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so what kind of price drops will we be seeing over the next two months? as far as australian pricing is going, you can still be paying ~$500 for a 390.

i'm desperate for a new card, but i can wait a while if its saves me a few dollarydoos.

>>55331352
Sli is usually 70-80% scaling iirc

>>55331410
Give it some time for drivers to properly mature.

>>55331413
There will definitely be price reductions around Christmas / New Year even if it's only temporary.

However by then the fabrication issue will be resolved so the prices will most definitely stabilize around October ~ November at least.

>>55331418
Only on games that properly support SLI/XFIRE.

Both solutions introduce driver overhead though. It shouldn't be ignored.

>>55331459
>Christmas

bummer

well at least that gives me time to save then.

So I'm a cheap asshole but I'm worried about lifetime. If I get a GTX 960, should I be running modern games with mid to high settings for the next few years?

>>55331501
If you've got time to save, might as well save for the best. Get a gigabyte gtx 1080.
Best performance, and in my experience, most solid brand for quality.

>>55331520
Yeah, but why not an rx480 or gtx 1060?
What's the price difference? Why not a used r9 290 or 7970?

>>55331520
next few years probably not.

In two years time you will probably be on low to mid in new releases.

>Vega is 2017
JUST

>>55331555
We're already halfway through 2016, calm down.

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>>55330523
>check /g/ 2-3 hours ago
>weaboo shit threads spammed with with barely any gpu references

>come back now
>someone organised this board up and made a general that killed most spam threads

OP, you are a God among men.

>>55331403
bullshit

>>55331555
big vega is 2017 along with the 1080ti/next titan

>>55331660
Look in the op, that's the average fps across a range of 15 games.

I wouldn't recommend a card that averages below 60 fps to someone who wants 60fps.

>>55331538
>Yeah, but why not an rx480 or gtx 1060?
Well, I will have the parts for my PC soon, and won't those cards not be available at MSRP for several months?

>What's the price difference? Why not a used r9 290 or 7970?
I don't really know much about GPUs, so I'm not sure where these cards fall in comparison, but buying used sounds kind of sketchy. Do people do this often with graphics cards?

>>55331754
dont buy used, unless its from a m8 and you know it definitely runs

>>55331754
R9 290 would be ~rx480 but a tiny bit slower, HD7970 would be in the middle of gtx960 and 970.

>>55331777
I got most my parts used and they're still working great.

>>55331754
the rx 480 is available for msrp right now

>>55331789
anecdotal evidence means nothing

there is always a risk involved when buying used

Want a GPU that'll be able to run 1440p60fps at max-high settings untill holiday 2017 (GPU should be at least as powerful as the Xbox Scorpio one is supposed to be.

Once cut down Vega 10 comes out, would it be a good idea to get that or just buy the 1070.

>>55330523
Your idea is valid. I also was frustrated about it. good for you.

>>55331802
Everywhere I have checked says it is out of stock, and would be sold at +$250 even if it were.

>>55331818
R9 Fury would be what you want, I think.

>>55331811
Good point. Just because I haven't had any issues doesn't mean he won't.

Buying used is a risk, but it often pays off if you find a good deal.

>>55330523
I'm still running an old gtx 660, don't have a lot of money but was thinking of picking up a 970 to keep me going a little longer. Is it worth the upgrade or should I just wait until I'm done school and build a new system. CPU is outdated as well.

>>55331863
What's your cpu and what do you intend to play?

If you're fine running games on medium instead of ultra you should still be set for a while.
Have you overclocked?

GTX 1070 should be fine for 1440p @ 60fps right?

Upgrading from a 7950

>thread with no /v/ shitposting

how did we manage this?

>>55331880
Old intel i5 2310. Was salvaged from a prebuilt when I built the new system. And I just want to play stuff like Battlefield 1, Deus Ex and Bannerlord when it comes out. I'm ok with medium settings, but would be nice if I could get a bit better.

>>55330945
Holy I think you might be an nvidia fanboy in denial.

I think they're both whatever since I've never had a problem with either and I don't play games.

>>55331931
Your cpu should still be fine, barely. You should overclock your gpu a bit and then pick up a used 970 a month or 2 before Christmas.
You should still be fine on a mix of medium/high settings for now.

Avoid reverence or founder Edition cards.

>>55331968
Yea I plan to build a new system when I finish school. and alright, thanks for the advice anon!

>>55330523
any idea what kind of performance/price we're gonna get with 1060? i'm a little bit underwhelmed after rx480 release. was thinking i should replace my 270x with that, but i'm not entirely sure anymore. it doesn't seem all that different from the "good old" 970, except for vram amount and dx12/vulcan performance, which i probably won't care that much in the near future.

I should have built my PC when the AUD was better than the USD

rip now

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>Someone approved this.

>>55332052
im going to replace my 270 with one for sure, just w8ting for non-reference

Got a [spoiler]stock clocked[/spoiler]i5 2500k on a P8P67.
Thinking of finally upgrading to a rx 480 and later adding faster ram and OC'ing the CPU. Is this the smart choice? I want the summer for gaming, and save as much money for prostitutes

>>55332067
what if 1060 turns out to be similar performance but considerably lower tdp? isn't that what we hoped 480 would deliver?
then there's this rx470 which won't be much slower, but definitely cheaper+considerably lowet TDP...
damn i'm lost.

>>55332062
>XXX OC
wut

>>55332091
by the time the 3rd party cards are out we may be able to get reference 1060 benches so I guess we will see then

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>yo senpai how do you like your AUD?

JUST

>>55332123
That 360 looks like a sweet deal.

>>55331418
Driver don't mature on gameworks games.

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GTX 1070 price drop fucking WHEN?

it's literally twice the MSRP at this point

>>55332142
I would consider getting it, but my psu is only 520W

>>55332142
>>55332167
I missread that as 390 my bad

>>55332147
When TSMC gets their shit together (never).

Smart thing to do is wait a few months for the aftermarket 480s to come out and hopefully by then any driver issues are fixed and we can see exactly what the card can do.

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>>55330523
That's a good graphic but it doesn't tell you the full story.

The 390 beats the 8GB 480 in most games and the 4GB in all games.
It costs as low as just 20$ more than the 480. FOR AN AFTERMARKET COOLER VERSION.

The 480 is literally a meme. You're better off getting a 390 and be done with it. And quite honestly, you could've done that an year ago, why the hell did you shills wait?

And I like how a couple of AMD fanboy sites on purpose did not bench 390 vs 480 (Guru 3D being one if you want an example). If the 390 drops in price in the next months there's no reason for anyone to buy this meme card. Which is a possibility because there's a large stock of 390s which have been gathering dust on retailers shelves for years.

>>55332189
can't wait, probably the last free summer of my life is ahead
fuck it i'm going for reference

>>55332123
I'm surprised, I've seen a few places listing the 8GB version for $310CAD which actually puts it at the equivalent US price. There's a few listed for $330 and $350 too but I'm assuming that's just the regular price gouging.

Reminder to only buy 970 / 1060 if you don't intend on using them for more than 1-2 years.

It's a given that 2 years from now when everything is DX12 the RX480 will absolutely murder current gen Nvidia cards.

So it really depends on what you plan with your build. If you're looking for a card to keep the next 4 years got for the 480, if you just want something for 1 year go for the 970.

>>55332213
I might just ship from the US if the price gouge continues

>>55332215
>It's a given that 2 years from now when everything is DX12 the RX480 will absolutely murder current gen Nvidia cards.
If you bothered to check the benches the 970 actually pulls ahead in the DX12 benches for the games which don't required lots of memory.

AMD being better at DX12 turns out to be like their new card - a literal meme.

>>55330883
man nvidiashill... you worked to whole goddamn day shiting up /g/ sliding good threads because the jew only pays you shekel per thread you make and post you shill, but it´s enough dear friend you can sleep now.

>>55332209
you're gonna spend your last free summer with a shit card?

>>55332243
the cards main problem is the low ROPs thus causing it to do badly with AA settings

>>55332189
as far as I heared(rumor) the AiB versions gonna drop in about 2-3weeks.

>>55332251
no, which is why I'm upgrading from a 7870

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>>55332251
>>55332267
lmao

>>55331251
is the 760 Ti a shit tier card?

>>55332243
That's some weak tier bait.

It's 23% faster in Hitman and 20% faster in Ashes than the 970.

The 970 is 9% faster in Tomb Raider but that's just because of goyimworks bullshit.

You can say Hitman is AMD favored and Tomb Raider Nvidia favored

But Ashes is completely independent.

>>55332275
I'd have appreciated constructive feedback

Will the rx480 AiBs fix the power draw and cooling issues?

that's what I'm most concerned about at this point

aibs aren't allowed to add extra power connectors.

>>55332305
was a gr8 response to an attempted b8

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>>55332259
And that's why buying an 480 over a 390 is retarded.

If you shills wait of a month - heck you waited for an year for this meme, might as well wait another month - you'll have 390s selling lower than a stock 480 I bet.

Why buy a card with performance all over the place when you can buy a card with concrete performance above the 970?

>>55332286
>20%
It's a good 2 fps faster than the 970 in Ashes. That's not 20%. The 390 IS INDEED 20 fps faster than a 970 in Ashes. But not the 480.

>>55332314
nigga what, some aibs added more power connectors to the 270, others didnt, how is it different.

>>55332314

w-what

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>>55332314
BAITU

>>55332314
saphire already confirmed that their aib 480 did

Are 4GB 480's already released?
Because I bought one, but I thought they don't exist yet

>>55332380
nope. amd is will send indian goons after you.

>>55332383
Then what the fuck will the ship?
It said "in stock" and it has cost 219€

>>55332207
390 doesn't cost 200 dollars, puts out much less heat and consumes less power.

building a new rig. my current rig is an old q6600 with a 4850x2. has lasted me 7 years and I plan on keeping it as a spare/backup.

I've been waiting for the dust to settle on the RX480, but decided today on a 980. Found one on newegg for $295 (after $25 rebate). The RX480 seems decent but considering ATI drivers on linux are complete shit and also considering they're all sold out to hell, I figured the 980 woudl be an appropriate option.

we'll see when i put it all together. funny going from a q6600 to an i5-6600k.

>>55332322
Because you're a stupid weaboo and an idiot.

480 is better than a 390, regardless what you want to believe.

so how much longer until 1070 actually goes back down in price to 379 like it says it's supposed to be?

looking at benchmarks it seems almost twice as powerful as the 780ti, and with that 8gb memory it's no match for it. would not mind the upgrade for ~400. when are these fucking shits getting back in stock? i'm not paying scalpers price for these shits

>>55330942
It's dead Jim. You could try flashing the BIOS on it but then you risk completely murdering it for likely no benefit at all. Constant crashing and artifact is usually sign of memory gone to shit. There's nothing you can do to repair it yourself.

>>55332398
what do u need such a beefy graphics card for on linux

>>55332418
get a refreshing extension that refreshes the page and checks for changes.

it's not hard to get, just requires some actual effort.

>>55332418
And when is the non-foundershit edition going to be available? Nvidia is obliterating my gonads here.

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>>55332406
>480 is better than a 390
Except in all the benchmarks.
If we disregard Hitman of course. Not disregarding Hitman is the same as not disregarding Gameworks games.
>AMD would never gimp their own cards!
Yeah right.

>>55332390
The 390 and the 480 are pretty much equally priced around the world right now. Unless you're a murillard, you might as well get the better card.

>AMDrones carrying about power consumption
You retards already have 700W power supplies anyway. Might as well use them.

>>55332452
literally did not answer my question

>>55332456
this. what are you gonna go with, anon? evga? msi?

>>55332456
When there's a competitive reason to release them. Whenever there's better yields on GP104.

>>55331112
I would get a 1080p144 or 1440p60 monitor before upgrading the GPU.

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>>55332423
Thanks anon I am buying a new one tomorrow.

>>55332418
>so how much longer until 1070 actually goes back down in price to 379 like it says it's supposed to be?
The Gigabyte one sells (out) for 399$.
MSRP doesn't mean this is the price it's going to sell at. MSRP means 379$ is the lowest price you can expect it at.

>>55332460
>is a weaboo
>spreads lies on the internet
>suffers from autism

Sounds about right.

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>>55330799
you know newegg ships here now right?

>>55332488
i saw that. problem is gigabyte for graphics is fucking shit.

>>55332493
Holy shit, Do want.

Thanks anon!

Will reference be fine? Can I use my old gtx570 windforce cooler on it?

>>55332499
>problem is gigabyte for graphics is fucking shit.
Gigabyte is in the middle as far as quality is concerned.

Their G1 1070 is a good 5-10 fps faster than the FE and it's much cheaper as well. So might as well buy it. The rest of the cheapo ones won't be better. And hey, at least Gigabyte fans are known to be silent. You could do much worse.

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>>55330901
Retards like you who don't know where to look deserve to be gouged of all your money.

>>55332549
was actually just looking at that one. i might go with that.

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>>55332383
>>55332380
Then what's this?

>>55332532
Fuck reference. Don't ever buy reference, not Nvidia, not AMD. Jet engine noises are never worth it.

I have a ~5 year old GTX550Ti.

Am a poorfag on the pension. What get?

>>55332567
By the way I meant Windforce.
The G1 is their more expensive line.
Windforce used to be the 3 fan one, I guess they changed their naming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-rjhS_cJg&feature=youtu.be#t=1h5m22s

>>55332648
A job

>>55332665
This to be honest family savage shaking my head.

>>55330703
I know, right? They should have drawn a cock on it and sold it for a $100 premium as Faggot Edition.

>>55332648
Wait a month or two.
Now that these cards are out Nvidia might drop the prices on their old cards.
If you can get a 980 for a low price, granted I don't think it will drop bellow the price of a 480 but it could get to be just a slightly bit more expensive, get it.
If you can find a cheap 390 that's a good buy as well.

Never buy cards at launch. Especially if you're poor.

>>55332665
kek

>>55332648
nothing right now
only a fool would buy a reference card

we probably won't have AIB 480's til late next month, AIB 470's and 460's til august, and AIB 1060's til god knows when

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>>55330857
+ leaked strix's and msi's on currytech. won't link.

>>55332741
I heard the showerhead design was made up

>>55332562
Yeah what a retard haha

>only XFX isn't TOTALLY price gouging
>the 8gb model is still too expensive
>the Sapphire model is up and is $419

I got a new aftermarket 290x in 2015 for $380. Why the fuck would anyone buy one of the 8gb models at their current price?

>>55332741
Cheese grater is supposedly fake.

>>55332610
Nah if I can use my gtx570 cooler on it, it should be fine?

is there any truth about the RX 480 consuming way more power than it was claimed? anyone can confirm?

Anyone gaming at 1440p at 96hz or higher? What GPU do you use? Thinking of upgrading my R9 290 to GTX 1080.

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So sexy

>>55332760
>>55332769
no it's legit. see: >>55332663
timestamp got fucked, but go to 10 minutes.

>>55332767
Are you brain damaged my dude? Exchange+GST+Markup makes this one of the few cards to retail at a sensible price.

I literally guessed the 4gb version would be ~320 and 8gb ~400. They're fair prices you mouth breathing coon.

>>55332797
aight cheers

If I'm easily disgusted by FPS drops below 60 on 1080p, what card should I get? The RX 480 isn't enough for me and the GTX 1070 seems like it might be too much.

>>55332424
the steam library for linux has been growing, and maybe I'll mine altcoins or something.

I might boot windoze for titles that don't work on wine. I haven't done a lot of gaymin over the past few years but I am thinking of going to/hosting more LAN parties. This rig is going to be ITX.

Also, girlfriend is in architecture and uses revit/autocad/etc and I might let her use it to quickly render fancy shit.

I also carry the mindset of future-proofing and like to use my rigs for a long time. Sure, there are cheaper cards, but you reach a certain point where they become not much better than the 4850x2 I currently have that I bought 7 years ago. The 980 may be overkill for what I generally do, but by the time it is considered mediocre (by my standards) it will be time for something new.

So what's the next move for AMD after the RX 480? Are they going for a more powerful card later this year?

Also, I just bought a 1440p 144hz monitor. Do I

a. Buy the AIB 480 for freesync
b. Buy a 1070 for out of the box better FPS

Does Freesync really make a difference?

>ref 480 costs £250 in UK
>non ref 970 costs £220

Eu will never lean towards AMD with those conversions

>>55332847
If the RX 480 averages 73 FPS for 1080p, why are you worried? What refresh rate is your monitor running at?

>>55332803
The 4gb price is fine. 200usd->270aud+10%. I'm mostly OK with the extra $20 on top of that. However, the extra $40 USD translating to anywhere from a $100-$120 markup is absurd. The XFX price is fair (if you consider that extra $25 markup fair), the others most certainly are not. $420+ is the price they should be going for with an aftermarket cooler, but they'll probably be even more expensive.

>>55332859
>should I spend 400 dollars+?
>should I spend 200 dollars+?


>>55332867
>launch date price and a fucked exchange rate
>eol price listing for stocks slowly built over time with a stronk pound

yeah. amd is finished...

>>55332859
Both aren't enough to use your monitor unless you play super optimized cancerous esports games like Memewatch - A game so fucking autistic Blizz disabled 21:9 support cuz of muh advantage.

>>55332867
>3.5GB vs 8GB
OK

Anyhow the Sapphire 480 is gonna have an 8 pin connector as verified in that video with Sapphire rep Ed. Most likely it will get a 1480Mhz default overclock with possibility to clock much higher. It also looks sexy as fuck in black.

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Any info on the RX 480 in New Zealand? Prices, availability, etc?

Also when are the aftermarket cards coming out, the Sapphire model looks pretty good.

>>55332922
only 1 8 pin or a 6+8?

So, I'm waiting until next month to buy my new GPU. Should I go for a custom cooler RX 480 or a 1060?

>>55330883
Over 300 dollars is not mid range.
The 480 is not a flagship card.
It costs 200 fucking dollars for the 4GB version.
It's the best performance you can get in its price bracket right now (without buying used). Of course, some retailers are jacking up prices because of demand, but that will subside as inventories are replenished. The hype was overblown, as it always is, but the 480 is exactly what it was supposed to be - a solid performer at 1080p, playable at 1440p, and VR capable at a competitive price. The fanboys were the ones saying it would crush the 980 while drawing 100W or less, not AMD themselves.

>>55332913
Never implied they're finished but it's always the same in EU. 390 is more expensive than 970, 1070 costs more than 1080 does in USA. I'm sick and tired of getting fucked. Also 480 will become useless unless Nvidia is serious with that $300 1060 gtx pricing.

>>55332946
I'd be extremely surprised if there were AIB 1060's that early

>>55332922
Gtx970 is 4gb

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>>55332874
Just 60Hz, but this shit right here is pretty much my problem. I get that it's good enough for MOST games but I want it to be good enough for ALL games including future releases for a while without suffering these drastic, if occasional, drops and I'm willing to pay extra to achieve that. The averages in the OP image include both Overwatch and Battlefront which makes every card on there seem a lot more impressive than it really is.

>>55332741
>>55332796
>>55332931
I'm glad they seem to have given it a dark coating since it was leaked. It makes it look much nicer.

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>>55332966
nice one!

>>55332932
He said it has an 8 pin but it doesn't need it. Make of that what you will. That is as far as he would say.

>>55332956
>$300 1060 gtx pricing
seriously?
I scoffed at $250 for the rumored specs

>>55332913
Unless the Rx 480 AIB is a miracle overclocker the 1070 has a clear advantage on it in comparison videos I've seen.

>>55332918
You've got a good point. I should just acknowledge I'm not going to hit 120fps over and 1440p unless the game is from 2006 or is esports.

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what is my best graphics card option for this build?

This is a workstation/media station build. I don't really game, though i'll occasionally play cities: skyline or things like civ

Planning on adding 2 1080p or 2k monitors in the future for document viewing/editing


Don't really know much about computers, this is my first build. my sense is that the 480 is just a newer tech slightly cheaper version of the 390/970? This right?

I'm assuming that the 1060 will be better than the 970, for sub $300 so should I just wait for that? Or is there really no point in waiting for what i'm going to use it for?

looking to spend around ~$275 on a gpu

>>55332931
$500NZD...

>>55332946
The 1060 hasn't even been officially announced yet and will take a while to actually get to stores let alone reviewed. Nvidia are grasping at straws.

>>55332886
230 USD = 309 AUD
+28 AUD (GST)
+shipping costs
+mark up to actually make money

Oh look, suddenly the $400 price point is perfectly legitimate. Also, rx480 is a brand new card with new tech. To compare it to a fucking rebranded 290x is stupid. The price is fine, you're just stupid I'm afraid.

>>55332931
Why do you write to me like a fucking marketer? What is it with AMD fans posting useless shit like speculations and muh slick black look of a hardware I don't see unless I'm an autistic owner of a gaming Christmas lights with razer sticker on case?

>>55332984
Source?

>>55332982
>buying windows

>>55332931
>>55332946 here. I think i found my card.

>>55332966
wew lad

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>>55332973
Of course, it's the stupid lying weaboo again!

Gtx970 has 4gb vram and performs exactly as it should at that price point and nothing you say will change that.

>>55332932
not this dude >>55332922 but on the video he says that it >will have a 8 pin but doesn't need one


so, probably single 8 pin. remember this a budget card, and built for low power consumption, I dout they would launch 6+8 pins or even have the need especially after considering that Polaris 10 doesn't even have that much more to get from OC's - the references cards are certainly limited in that regard, but you shouldn't expect to hit 2ghz on the aib's neither.

>>55332987
not him but if you ship direct from the US you dont pay gst

but you are right, the price point is legitimate, its just sad considering it used to be the same, and wages havnt changed....

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>>55332995
thanks for the help anon

>>55333018
interesting, my gigabyte 270 has 2 6 pins rather than the other who have a single pin.

a single 8 pin would work much better

>>55332982
Workstation for what?
If you're doing 3D - get an Nvidia.
If you're doing video - get an Nvidia.
If you're doing some other sort of meme GPGPU - you might have a choice between Nvidia or AMD.
But in general get Nvidia.

AMD has shit OpenGL drivers. They've had them for years. They still haven't fixed them.
Pretty much everything used for professional 3D and video relay on OpenGL. That won't change in the foreseeable future.

If you're considering a 970 wait a bit. The 980 might become cheaper soon and it has very good performance in OpenGL applications.

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I fucking hate graphics card launches on /g/, so much shilling and fanboys, and unnecessary anti-fanboy anger hided behind shitposting. Its like nintendo games on /v/.

>>55333017
Execept where a lot of texture is needed like Mordor where it flails like a dying fish out of water.

>>55333017
>there's only one weeaboo on 4chan
Wow what a retard.

>>55333035
Gtx 970 bruh

>>55332989
Oops didn't realise that image has been posted twice already in the thread, I'm not shitposting I promise D:

And no I'm not a shill, I just appreciate stuff that looks nice, and would like to know what price I would be able to get for it in my country.

maxwell/970:
> EOL / no benefits of performance updates anymore
> 3.5gb vram
> crippled dx12, next to no performance gain
> nvidia logo
> 250€ decent price tag
> old games used this as benchmark
> too weak for gimpworks
> spyware mandatory for latest driverupdates

480
> 8gb
> 260€
> superb dx12 support, making bad cpus even viable again
> dx11 mediocre
> poointheloo
> gcn driver support continues for years, increasing performance over time
> gimpworks cripples this

>>55333055
https://youtu.be/v6k55epUBCE

>>55332982
>paying full price for wangblows
Nobody should ever do this.
Just get a grey market key if you have a need for a genuine license or pirate it if you don't.
As for GPU I'd throw an RX 480 in that considering what we know now, but 1060(Ti) specs are coming in a week according to the rumor mills and internet shills so I'd wait just a second. 480s are not even in stock anyways so it's nearly a non-issue. You want the 8GB 480 or 6GB 1060(Ti) if you like Skylines a lot.

>>55332982
If you hurry you can still upgrade to windows 10 from a pirated Windows 7.

>>55332987
>rebrand

I said a 290x. If you want rebranded though, that MSI 390 is still $429 on pccg I believe.

>markup to make money
Ok but this assumes the retailers or whatever are paying $199/229USD to stock the card. They aren't. The markup required to make money is part of the initial price, which is why THEY COST THAT MUCH IN THE FIRST PLACE. Shipping costs do not constitute the extra $60, especially when posting a SINGLE GPU FROM THE US WOULD BE $40, LET ALONE IN BULK. The XFX model is a fair price. Everything else is price gouging, plain and simple. They are all the same reference card. There is no reason for the price differences, other than ripping off the consumer.

>>55333074
>3.5gb
Since when?

Do they now ship with 0.5gb soldered off?

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>>55333017
who?
>access to the 0.5GB of memory, on its own and in a vacuum, would occur at 1/7th of the speed of the 3.5GB pool of memory

Keep getting cucked by Nvidia.

>>55333076
>Trying to shill discontinued hardware as being better in the long run than newer hardware
Keep shilling bud it really looks good on your resume.

>>55333018
480 will be shit at oc no matter how many pins you will throw at it. Unless non ref cooling provides some wizardry results it will reach thermal throttling way too soon. It already reaches Titan temperatures in stock. your GPU shouldn't run in 80 degrees anyway

>>55332969
>these drastic, if occasional, drops
You realize the minimum FPS values are hit for extremely brief periods, right? Not even a full second. You don't notice them.

Where's Polaris 11?

>>55332741
Looks like an ironing board without the cloth

>>55332987
>mark up to actually make money

What?

>>55333104
See
>>55333076

Stupid weaboo.

>>55333106
The 970 can be a better deal depending on how cheap you get it since they perform so similar, especially at 1080p.

>>55332796
still looks like an ironing board

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>>55332987
463,666666 in huehueland
we actually got prices that resemble those at first world countries for this one (yes, yuropoor and straya are first world from our perspective).

best price at launch I've ever seen -- smallest gouging evah.

(if another hue is reading this, 1439,90 temerinos at kabum, for pre order not available yet]

>Tomb Raider running at less than sixty and occasionally dropping to 45 in that fucking valley
>GTX 1070

Is it time for the dreaded CPU upgrade? Is it time to put the 2500k to rest?

Will there be a custom blower style 480?

>>55333117
No one is stopping you from buying a 280 right now.

>>55333116
His problem is the card doesn't do 60 fps in most games in general. Not that the minimum is bellow 50.

>>55333131
>Being so poor you buy older tech
I am not THAT poor. I'd much rather buy a 480 AIB and enjoy the performance boost plus cooler temps, quieter and DX12 goodness going forward. The 970 is dead in the water on DX12.

>>55333085
Win10 is shit and no amount of performance gain can make up to it. Best thing you can do is install win7 twice and update one of them for win10 which you would only run for dx12 vidya.

>>55333151
>implying dx12 isn't dead in the water too.

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>>55333131
>>55333076
>actually eating up nonsense from an austin evans-tier youtuber
wew

>>55332987
>shipping costs
>Australia is closer to Taiwan (where they are made) than the USA
>shipping costs

Just a bullshit excuse senpai

>>55333161
you wish. but keep dreaming. bet you said that about DX11 too

>>55333142
Many games nowadays seem to bottleneck my 3570. Problem is they seem to bottleneck everything else too.

>>55333111
dubs trips trips of truth

>>55333179
I fell for the meme of a good overclock and 2133 ram.

Looks like it might be time to spend 300 on a 6600k and a mobo.

>>55333185
Fuck off back to /b/

>>55333094
>The XFX model is a fair price
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying m8. The $400 mark is absolutely fair, and people charging upwards of 430-480 are jews just trying to rip people off in the early days.

But the prices will settle over the next month or so regardless and considering the non-ref cards will come out after this time, they'll still be competitively priced. Can't imagine the non-ref Sapphire costing over $420.

>>55333111
temperature =/= heat transfered

>>55333151
>same performance as rx480
>costs less
>is considered dead in the water
Neat.

>>55333164
(you)

>>55332982
>>55333045
> how to lie on the internet

If you want a gpu for a real workstation, get a Quadro or FirePro. Everything else is childs play. It doesn't matter what you get, because the performance is pretty much the same.

Look at the applications you use and decide which brand you need.
For 3d it's pretty much irrelevant, both are shit solutions and nowhere near real workstation level.
Premiere makes use of Cuda.
Photoshop makes use of OpenCL.

>>55333171

Powercolor RX 480 4GB cost US$273.14 here in Indonesia.

>>55333218
keep reaching faggot

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Polaris 10 is a great look at the business side of GPU development.

Though the die itself is absolutely spectacular. Unlike anything before it.

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>>55332867

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>>55333239
close up of the die
The way the CU and their sub components are arranged is incredibly beautiful.

>>55333138
damn, the 970 prices came down real hard in huelandia (from~2k brl down to 1.4-1.6k brl)

we got a real MSRP price cut for the first time in our history. That's unprecedented for retailers to follow the manufacturers guidelines on pricing.

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>>55333247

>>55333205
Except the XFX is $379. The "OC" (rofl OC ref) is $399. Even then, having done the math, it isn't $379 for any reason other than Australia tax, unless the cost of shipping per GPU is exactly $40 or so, which I highly doubt.

>>55333243
Literally who? Also I honestly would rather quit gaming than be forced to use win10 as main OS. I miss Vulcan.

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>>55333247
>>55333259
Compare to prior GCN

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When?

Got a 280x and was recently gifted a 144fps monitor, the thing manages to run 90fps. Would a 390 suffice?

>>55333250
Can't wait for Olympics. It's gonna be greatest fuck up in history of sport.

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>>55333273
And this is the close up of a single CU's implementation on die

>>55333247
purty
>>55333267
>Also I honestly would rather quit gaming than be forced to use win10 as main OS.
Why?

>>55333250
>That's unprecedented for retailers to follow the manufacturers guidelines on pricing.
That's because no one will buy a 1.5 year old gpu when a new one that replaces it cost less or the same.

At this point it's just liquidating stock.

>>55333275
Black Friday.

>>55333267
W10 isn't too bad. I do all my work on my laptop anyways and only use my desktop for gaming

>>55333288
Me being paranoid when it comes to privacy and glorified botnets. Also cringe for that Windows Phone UI they push since 8.

>>55330675
>he said, as he tried to contain in all threads in as many generals as possible

>>55333146
>buying a power guzzling 4 year old GPU when I could have similar performance in a silent <75w GPU with newer features

Why did you even post this purchase advice? Was it some sort of satirical poetry?

>>55330857
well if refrence coolers where uber the aibs wouldnt have selled a single card...

the days that amd or nvidia made a good cooler ended with 32nm

>>55333265
>Except the XFX is $379.
And it's going to stay that way, because going any lower doesn't make sense. When XFX release their non-ref cards, how much higher do you think the price is going to be?

Like I said, $420 for a non-ref 480 is still a good price, and there's potential for them to sell for less than that by the time they're released.

It's always been like this m8. Non-ref cards come out swinging, then the prices come down a bit when initial hype wears off, and they get replaced at close to the same price with non-ref versions. No need to be so pessimistic.

>>55330857
>R9 390 beating RX 480 in Ashes of the Singuarity, the #1 touted game AMD was shoving up our asses to promote
I was hoping AMD was going to one-up their previous gen cost effective solution the 390 but NOPE.

Looks like 480 is unlucky for both reds and greens.

>>55333277
Depends on what games. I can run 144fpsUltra on less demanding games(lol, csgo, H1z1). Any of the newer titles and you'd have to run on lower settings to get that silky smooth 144.

>>55333282
I don't think most hues don't even remember that the olympic games gonna start soon. We don't even care, too much high level shit obfuscating it.

>>55333289
you missed the point. Our retailers aren't familiar with the terms 'fire sale', 'burn sale', 'stock liquidation', we've got GTX 480's (yeah FERMI) selling for 3.5k brl (1060 usd) still ffs. Nvidia must have twisted their arms real hard to get those prices going down by this much.

>>55333350
It's slightly better than 970 performance for slightly more expensive than 970.

I'll pick one up when price drops to around or below the 970

>>55333350
Cursed names best be laid to rest.

>>55333346
the card replaces the 380/x its 40% faster than it why you expect it to beat a higher tier card? it wasnt meant to do that

>>55333353
What about overwatch? I can't seem to break the 110fps barrier no matter how much I lower the settings

>>55333376
That's a cpu bottleneck.
>>55333371
This. The fact that it's better than a 380x itself should be good enough

>>55333350
The 480 is the highest perf/dollar GPU on the market by on astounding margin right now. Thats exactly what it was aiming for, and AMD accomplished it.

AMD could have made a bigger die with more CU, and stuck to lower clocks do they'd be in the sweet spot for perf/watt. They didn't do that because they wanted to make a cheap mid range card to win back market share. A Fiji GPU ported to 14nm LPP would smash the RX 480 across the board, but it wouldn't be nearly as cheap to manufacture.

The smaller Polaris 11 is clocked lower for higher perf/watt, and we've already seen how it performs.

>>55333322
I welcome this general very much.
But don't even dare to remove my god given right to shitpost.

>>55333415
You can shitpost, but I fucking hate the spam. That's why I made this thread.

>>55333333

>>55333386
>That's a cpu bottleneck.
Oh my, I didn't think about that
Thanks man

>>55333313
>Me being paranoid when it comes to privacy and glorified botnets
Just take the blue pill fampai, it's so much easier. Who cares about surveillance when you can have DX12?

Unless you actually are partaking in kiddy fiddling material, in which case you should probably just off yourself.

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>>55333393

>>55332791
It was like ten watts. Really it was just weird that it broke standards at all.

>>55333393
I also saw those temps. It isn't quiet nor cool but Tbh we have to wait for non ref models which would also show the real performance of 480 since 970 can reach 980 stock levels with oc.

>>55333204
:^)

>>55333437
you know what is even more impressive?
check techpowerup and toms hardware reviews of the 960

the card is absolutely murdering the pcie having worst wattage
and yet NOT A SINGLE one called out nvidia for this..
yet yesterday everyone is going NUTS
i said it yesterday here that toms is being tom and is gonna shill on amd and i was right...

>>55333420
haha consecutive numbers lmao

>>55333428
I'm a normie raised in a family valuing privacy, it just grinds my gears when I see morons posting their private details online and then crying cyberbullying. It terrifies me to think a company could do it for me.

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>>55330523
>tfw youre humble 960 is still on the charts
>but it doesnt say if it 4gb or 2gb which mine is the 2gb Strix

>>55333443
you literally set a temp target and a custom fan curve for it. Of course people will try to milk the most out of their cards, within reason, but if the temps are concerning just leave it at stock or reduce the OC like any other reasonable human being.

>>55333437
They're all running at a considerably higher necessary voltage for every pstate. You can undervolt them pretty well.

>>55333472
ASUS GTX 960 Strix.
They released a GTX 750ti which was a real motherfuck about pulling power over the slot as well.

Tom's hardware noted it both times, its just that AMD has no real fanboy shills like Nvidia does. Nvidia fanboys are a pervasive and constant force of mindless shitposting on the internet.

>>55332493
It removed it from my cart and said they don't ship to Australia?

>>55333480
Just avoiding Win10 isn't going to keep everything about you private, they'll find a way to get to you. So you either go full autismo tinfoil man or just give in, guess which one is easier?

AMD won

>>55333496

I almost bite the 960 bullet because /g/ recommended me one.
Bought a 380 because every 960 were either overpriced or on hold with pre-order.

>>55333518
fact is if you are connected to the internet you can never be safe that is the only real and one truth whoever thinks that by having w10 is somehow worst than having a tv or a set top box via a router on net is delusional...

also
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29714968&postcount=69
pretty fucking impressive...amd literally killed their 4gb version shame tho

>>55333517
Certain items can't be shipped. Set your nation to Aus and then look. Pretty sure they're considered out of stock when shipping to Australia atm

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How fucked is AMD?

>>55333393
>The 480 is the highest perf/dollar GPU on the market by on astounding margin right now. Thats exactly what it was aiming for, and AMD accomplished it.

It's the same as accomplishing something pathetic.

We all know what's important is the top. Casuals will ask, what's the fastest video card, sales will say nvidia so they will buy whatever nvidia video card there is as long as it is nvidia.

AMD won't last for two years. Enjoy your unsupported hardware.

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Bump limit reached, new thread!
>>55333602
>>55333602
>>55333602

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvhyrz5oDPo

he's gonna do it again. The destroyer of cards is back for moar blood.

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>>55333600
truth is even your favorite company doesnt say that
but oh well you can try more to justify a 700$ card that under dx12 performs 8% faster than a fury x

>>55333631
>300x168

kek

>that under dx12 performs 8% faster than a fury x
>buying AMD shill all over again

That is the same AMD who said their shit tier bulldozer/piledriver processors will run faster on Windows 8.

>>55333600
According to early reports, the 480 is selling great.

>saw a comment from amd Indian guy stating that eh waned to break up the company and sell anti again
>new gen cards are a step back
>they will hemorrhage money from this

If I get a 1080 will I need to upgrade my cpu as well? i5 4690k @3.5ghz here.

>>55330942
happened the same shit to me, was the psu.

>>55333683
he wanted to sell ati*

>>55332106
Porn VR edition. Didn't you know?

I got a Gigabyte GTX 970 for 249€ in Germany. Did I make a good deal?

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>>55333653
sorry to burst your bubble
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/11/#diagramm-ashes-of-the-singularity-async-compute
and on hitman is even worse.. almost 5%

and to whoever saw 480 results on dx12 is undestandable why they just dont talk about it..

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>>55330523
>390 used to tie with 970
>now it completely shits on 970

Did my 970 get gimped?

>>55333704
Nah you should be fine, what kind of games are you playing?

>>55333798
>did my 970 get gimped
i think you are 3.5/4 spot on
desu 390 is a much better card overall since it boast a lot more hardware and it will mature better given that it is a chip from 2013...

>>55333802
I usually play everything, I like testing my hardware so usually AAA types. My Noctua Nh D15 arrived today so I'm going to start working on overclocking my cpu.

>>55333910
well if you are about to play dx12 games then be sure to have at least an i7 3770k people with lower cpus have reported on ocn that they have seen quite a lot of drop because of the async offloading on the cpu

>>55333943
You have my many thanks.

Are graphics cards doomed? One brand is shit and the other one does bad things like slow down cards.

>>55333798
yes

>>55330523
>"average per minute"
>shows the highest FPS and lowest FPS for each resolution
>displays only the number for the highest FPS

Whoever made that chart is a retard.

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>>55334813
Whoever made it assumed the readers were past a 2nd grade math level and knew how to read it. It's okay, if you want to know what any of the unlabeled bars mean I can tell you. You don't need to be embarrassed. Go ahead and ask, this is a friendly general.

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>>55334813

>>55334856
>>55334879

Let me spell this out for you. It's not that difficult.

The blue bars for instance show the frame rates for 1080p.

There is a light blue bar (which is longer and thus ostensibly showing peak FPS), and a dark blue bar (which is shorter and thus ostensibly showing valley FPS).

The average is supposed to be somewhere in the middle between peak and valley FPS.

However, the only number shown is the peak FPS, alongside the lighter, longer bar.
Which is by no means "average".

So when you have a chart that says "average FPS", but the only numbers actually printed out are "peak FPS", that's retarded.

>Decided to buy new pc
>All this gtx 970 vs rx 480 shitstorm

From what I understood, I should get 480 if I plan to playing games on directX 12 or Vulcan.

If I don't plan to use spyware os for dx12, and vulcan is still worse then 11, is the 970 the best choice, considering temperature/sound volume?

>>55330963
>Why buy a card two generations behind?
Because it's inexpensive you stupid fucking nigger.

>>55334914
The long bar is the average.

>>55334959
And the short bar?

>>55331410
It's $200 you retarded faggot. What the fuck was the point of your picture?

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>>55334965
The minimum.

Hence the labelling at the bottom, Average / Minimum.

>>55334988
Christ that's retarded.

Why not have the max / avg / min, that way anyone can see in the blink of an eye what it is.