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Previous thread: >>51418888

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Retro ThinkPad news:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=118165&sid=0af77786671abcead5c41ec45847322a&start=630#p770582
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/TdZByAXS

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
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"So a little update for you all, Lenovo still working very hard on the ThinkPad Retro project. A team of Taiwanese diehard ThinkPadders will visit Lenovo Yokohama next week, and they will be briefed on all things ThinkPad (and some details on Retro). Apparently, right now the bottleneck for Retro project is on sourcing the screen. for 13.3 inches 16:10 and 15.4 inches 16:10 IPS screens are all exclusively produced for Apple. But i am guessing CES we will see the prototype for the Retro ThinkPad."

(from the forum post in OP)
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Just got myself a 600x. Will I be able to install modern distros on it or will I have to use something older?
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just got a lenovo yoga 14, but there is some light bleed in the lower left corner, any fixes?
also this app called lenovo pc experience will not delete of be removed from the taskbar, could geeksquad help?
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What useful thing could I do with the blue thinkbutton?

Right now mine just plays the jingle from the old thinkvantage software.
http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/ntkicv.wav
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>>51458987
Why the fuck do they not just use a 3:2 screen? Like seriously, there wouldn't be any sourcing issues and it's closer to the old 4:3 ideal than 16:9 ever will be.

I don't even mind the 16:9 that much, I just want all my other shit back

>Muh screen latches
>Muh 7-row keyboard
>Muh dedicated buttons

How hard is this shit, Lenovo?
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>>51459765
>I don't even mind the 16:9 that much

you've just triggered every thinktard

also the poll ended up splitting the 4:3 & 3:2 votes
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>>51459593
If the pentium 3 supports PAE and NX bit, you should be fine using any modern linux distro.
Just be aware that xfce under debian eats 200MB when idle.

Some newer thinkpads use a pentium M, which does NOT have these features and doesn't support any modern distros without patching the kernel with fakepae or something.
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>>51459748
was just thinking about using mine as a shortcut to firefox.
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>>51459818
I don't know why any faggot would vote for 4:3 when they're not made anymore.

And yes, the 1920x1080p screen on my W520 is just fine, thank you. And hell, for the most common resolutions (900p), you don't even lose any vertical pixels.
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>>51459897
>All those components
>On the carpet

It's like you want dust on them or something!!
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>>51460043
do you randomly generate a name for every post you make?

that's dedication.
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>>51460043

they are already dusty, just wanted to get a picture of everything.

have fun at the show
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>>51458970
I have not really gotten the chance to use my X230 yet, but I unearthed it today and I am working on setting it up as my workstation. Right now, with a series 3 docking station, it is able to drive 2 1080p monitors, and connect to all of my peripherals, so I am pretty happy. I hope I can keep this functionality when I install GNU/Linux on it like I do with all of my machines, but right now I am just using it under Windows 7 Pro.
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>>51460603
>python for a meme micro
>'agile' web dev
>beginning c#

:^)
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Simply
i just need the cheapest i7 laptop that is rouged, good battery would be nice. but i7 is only req i have and sadly 400 usd thinkpads are above my budget
i7 mostly for ad least 3 vm running
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>>51460625
kek, if I had know you would have given a shit, I would have pulled out my SICP and xlib books. I had to learn C# and the rest of the .NET stack for work, so that is what I had out.

And I like python. I don't really give a shit about hipster langs, and python is great for basic scripts that I need to deal with.
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>>51460661
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-14-Core-i7-2-70-Ghz-4Gb-RAM-DDR3-w-charger-/252160123250?hash=item3ab5ea2172:g:6WsAAOSw37tWCuqv

Offer $180.
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>>51460661
Typical mobile i7s are just dual core with HT, like the i5.
You want an i7 QM which are quite a bit more expensive. Some W520 shipped with them.
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I want to trade my t450 for an x250 :(
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>>51460714
>ship to USA only
sadly i live in eastern europe Poland xD
is there any underprice/valued laptops?i don't care about display, weight or any of that stylistic stuff
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>>51460784
The X250 is pretty great. I get 15 hours heavy usage with the upgraded battery.
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>>51460859
My 450 is too big
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>>51461079
Yeah, the T450 is big and heavy. The X250 is much smaller and portable, but if you need the larger screen, the T450s is much slimmer, lighter and portable than the T450.
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Is the T61P any good?
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Post temps, Mine are 55-62 °C while on youtube and OSRS!
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Which distro has the best support for the Wacom on my x200 tablet? Mint is horrible: the pen input is inverted and switching the orientation via the buttons makes the screen get stuck in that orientation.

I just need something that works for basic input.
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>>51461291
57-65° on YouTube, ~70° on Twitch (flash is shit). I do have the i7 in my t420, but still. I'm thinking about putting the nvidia heatsink on it because I have that those are a bit better and I want to put that QM in it someday down the line anyways.
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>>51461680
The best T420 heatsink is the one with the single wide heatpipe.
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>>51461291
RS on chinkpad buddy ayy
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>>51461680
QM?
>>51461713
link?
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>>51461727
come and join me!
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>>51461761
FRU 04W0627
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>>51461865
would this improve much?
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Is your thinkpad minecraft certified?
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>>51461886
It won't make a huge difference but it's the best available and what people who install quad i7 go for.
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On the verge of picking up a t420 with 1600x900 res for $240. Anywhere you can find it cheaper?
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>>51462079
Yeah, eBay.
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>>51461861
I've tried to quit, and haven't had membership in over 4 months.

DONT MAKE ME JOIN AGAIN ANON
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the t420 is it 8GB Ram max or 16?
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>>51462116
thats what I said and did, and yet here I am once again... you NEVER quit RS!
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>>51462144
16, up to 1866Mhz with BIOS mod, 1333 without.
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>>51462091
I see a couple of t420s for lower so I guess I could go with that.
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>>51462162
what BIOS mod?, got a link somewhere so I can read about it?, how hard is it
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>>51462221
It's from a German thinkpad forum. It basically adds a full advanced config page to the BIOS settings, removes the WiFi card whitelist and improves ram support.
Flashing is as simple as running a batch file.
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>>51462280
aha I see anon thanks!, I did flash my x61T also was rather easy and everything worked fine
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>>51458970
but anon, thinkpads haven't been relevant in over a decade
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>>51462445
you were never relevant.
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>>51460111
Just some userscript I wrote up really quick. I'm on my phone at the moment.

>>51460139
Just messing with you, no big deal. And it's not fun :/
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>>51462524
why no fun :(
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>>51462475
>muh precious chinkpad with chinese rootkits and malware cooked into the bios
you faggots will buy anything
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>>51462524
Could you please remain anonymous just like the rest of us? None cares who you are really, you're not bringing anything to the table either.
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>>51458970
>buying a meme laptop
>buying a chinkpad
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>>51462674
man i was once you, how foolish was i
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http://www.amazon.com/Thinkpad-X220-Bluetooth-Ethernet-Fingerprint/dp/B00UC6F1K6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448160574&sr=8-2&keywords=thinkpad+x220

thinking about purchasing a thinkpad

235$ i5 ssd 8gb ram

is this a good deal? I checked the wiki and 235$ was the price listed
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So /tpg/, my brother's Surface Pro 3 broke and Microsoft will be sending a new unit within the next couple of days. It's less than a year old, but the I/O port for that stupid keyboard attachment failed and it's having intermittent power-on issues. What a piece of garbage.

He's now thinking of selling the replacement Surface that Microsoft sends and getting something else, so long as that something else is a tablet and absolutely not made by Apple. Now, I originally told him to get an X220t but he said it was "too bulky" and still stands by that statement. I'm wondering if the ThinkPad Helix or the Yoga would fit the bill. Which one would be better? Or should I just tell him to man up and carry an X220t?
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>>51463364
i have the yoga and its fine, just a bit too heavy
i dont carry it anywhere which doesnt make the weight relevant, but the tablet mode is pretty much useless
i was considering the sp3 but i made a better choice with the yoga 14
in fact the only problems i have are here: >>51459647
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>>51463538
Is the Yoga 14 even a Thinkpad? I thought the only "Thinkpad Yoga" was a 12".
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How shitty on the /g/ scale is the X250?
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Hey shouts out to the guy who helped me put Debian on a USB. Tried it on my mom's laptop and it worked! Now just gotta wait for my X201.
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>>51463696
it isnt shitty just get the 1080p ips
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>>51462162
difference between 1333 vs 1866 price isnt even worth the upgrade specially in terms of performance.

whats the point of this
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>>51461861
what thinkpad is this and why arent you running loonix?
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x250 battery life vs t450s?
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Are X220s comfy?
I guess what I'm asking is, is it still possible for me to -comfortably- sit around in my chair and shitpost on 4chan and watch video when I'm not doing school work? Does the screen size inhibit this?
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>>51463696
shit. Only a notch above x240 and literal shit
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ive been searching locally for a thinkpad and found a t500 for 100, the thing is it looks fucking beat, is there any way to remove the scratches or just buy a new shell?
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>>51465114
For $100 a T500 should at least be in average shape. I would not pay more than $60 for something that's completely beat up.
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>>51461291
haven't bothered turning the fan back down after playing AOE3
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>>51459748
Use it to open terminal or your web browser
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>>51463364
>>51463594
>no status LEDs
>no physical buttons
>6 row layout
Look at it, it doesn't even have the trackpoint buttons, and I doubt it has a magnesium rollcage either

It is Thinkpad but in name only
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>>51464280
It's fine for single window use. But 1366x768 means you can't comfortable have 2 side by side in a lot of cases. More than adequate for comfy shitposting though
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>>51461290
Post 8/08 boards are OK, otherwise timebomb.

T61 with Intel graphics are a bit anemic but will still play 1080p YouTube.
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>>51460625

you didn't even mention

>desk fedora

>animu background

>monitors at different heights
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>>51466333
>>51461290
I've got the 15.1" one and it's pretty good

It's already been through more than 3 years so it's fine I guess

>>51466428
>not putting a mechanical keyboard over your thinkpad

stay pleb :^)
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hey /g/
I'm trying to buy a t420 on ebay
How can I know if the screen resolution if the seller does not state it/ does not know?
I want a 1600x900 in decent condition for <$300, preferably with ssd taken into account for total price
There's fuck all locally
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>>51466853
Just email them or take your chances

Easiest way to find out is just for them to open control panel and try to adjust screen resolution, assuming they have wangblows installed
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>>51464232
Because windows 7 just works?, I dual boot
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>>51465193
+1 ,
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>>51463364
Find him an x220t to hold for a few minutes. It'll convince him
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Is it true that Debian 8 stops supporting Savage cards like the ones found in the T23?
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>>51464280
if you want to lounge with it you'd be better off with a x220t for the IPS screen
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>>51467885
I've also been thinking of an X230 tablet, but for some reason they're rare as all hell. They don't even have an entry on the Thinkwiki.
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>>51462554
It was boring, but getting out of the house with friends is fun occasionally.

>>51462644
Okay.
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What kimd of Thinkpad can run some lightweight vidya - Half-Life 1/Stronghold, stuff like that
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>>51471264
Any of them past T/X 60, but I'd recommend X200/T400 at the very least.
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>>51458970
Is this caddy+SSD combo fine for a T420?

>http://www.amazon.de/Aluminium-Laufwerkschacht-Festplattenrahmen-Festplatten-Interface/dp/B00NFH44MU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448209121&sr=8-2&keywords=thinkpad+t420+caddy

>http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-75E250B-EU-interne-schwarz/dp/B00P736UEU/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1448209455&sr=1-1&keywords=SSD

I'm confused about the 9.5mm and 12.7mm caddies. What's the difference?
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I've got an x61t with a 1440x900 screen and I love it dearly, but the screen is slowly fucking itself up and it is too slow for the applications I need to run on it. Are there any similar-but-newer thinkpads? I don't much care about the tablet functionality, but the screen resolution and form factor are perfect for me
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>>51471671
The X61 is the last 4:3 tablet and the last high-resolution tablet. So not really. The others are either 1366x768 or 1280x800.
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>>51471706
Any similar non-tablets?
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>>51471722
Not really, but you can get pretty high resolutions on the T-series, like 1920x1200 or 1920x1080. That's particularly true of the T5**, which are a little bigger than the T4** counterparts.
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>>51471761
T-series units with the high-resolution screen are rare as hen's teeth. Things are damn near impossible to find, most of the time it's 900p for you. If you're looking for those kinds of resolutions, you're probably better off just copping a W series.
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>>51471921
T520 and T500 have those rather reliably.

Aftermarket screens are a possibility also, though a hassle.
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OK I'm a tech retard and I need a lightweight laptop for android development for uni

What would be the best for that?
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>>51471484
Anyone?
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>>51472055
Are you incapable of reading the OP?
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>>51472147
I read the buyer's guide but I'm dumb and confused
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>>51472196
Buy a t420 or something, it's more than enough if you're just programming.
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Anyone got opinions on the l412? I am going to be picking one up today.
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Free W520 guy reporting in. I've got a new battery on the way and I'm going to pick up some more RAM this afternoon. The 2620M dual-core processor is piss slow though, so I'm thinking of replacing it with one of the quad-cores. I've been thinking of the 2760QM. While the 2920XM would be good for bragging rights, it only offers marginal performance improvements over the 2760QM (which itself would already be twice as fast as the existing processor) at twice the price.

Now, is installing a quad-core in a W520 just a simple matter of taking out the old dual core and swapping in the new processor, or do I need a different mobo/heatsink? My understanding is you can just toss it in and then have access to all four memory banks with little or no issue.
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Hey /tpg/, I'm looking to upgrade the RAM in my T420, but I don't know a lot about what's compatible.

So, what specs do I need to match to the RAM I currently have, if any?

And, what's the maximum amount of RAM I can drop in? Some places say 8GB, and some say 16GB, which is it?
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>>51473292
Depends on your CPU.

I'm pretty sure all T420's support 16 GB at 1333 MHz, although you can also use faster RAM and it will just be underclocked.
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>>51473342
The CPU is an i5-2520M. So I should probably go with SODIMM DDR3-1333Mhz?
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>>51471264
I played HL2 on a T60p (ATI GPU). Temps got ridiculous. Would not recommend for longevity.
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>>51473002
All the W520's heatsinks seem to be the same. You should be able to just drop in a new processor. Might have to reactivate windows by phone, not sure.
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>>51473342
You can use faster ram at full speed with a bios mod
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>>51474003
>Might have to reactivate windows by phone, not sure
Or just reinstall from the recovery partition.
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posting from "muh libreboot" x200
keyboard godlike
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A guy's offering to sell me his X220 for $250, he says the battery life lasts 3.5 hours on average. Is that normal?
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>>51463364
How are the non-physical buttons? I liked the Thinkpad 230u, is that your model or is yours the next size up?
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I'm tired of the mechanical drive on my X220 and I'm planning to replace it with an SSD. Should I get an mSATA version or a 2.5" version? The prices are the same, but will the speeds be?


>>51474312
That's a pretty worn-out battery or a shittily optimized system. Price also a bit high, though not too much.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/181938978180

How'd I do?
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>>51471484
>>51472081
Guys?
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>>51473002
Nice taste on the mousepad
You should be fine with the heatsink.
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Where should I be looking if I'm want to buy a ThinkPad for ~$100? I'm getting rid of my gaming desktop, but I'm still gonna need something that runs Windows for work.
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>>51475080
mSATA in X220/230 is limited to SATA 2, so buy a 2.5" drive.

>>51473903
>T60p
>Running like a furnace

Upgrade to a T500 heatsink.
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>>51476445
Thanks. The tiny difference in weight won't be worth it.
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>>51471484
>>51471484
Any 12.7 caddy will do. Look for one that is thinkpad specific if you want it to be completely flush.
Any 2.5 SSD will work.
Next time don't post link in nazi language please.
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>big screen
>discrete graphics option for docking
>2 in 1 design
>xbox huge price tag.

I'm seriously considering the surface book right now /tpg/. Please talk me down from being retarded.
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what kind of vidya could I play on a thinkpad that is priced 100-200 dollars used
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>>51477325
>surface book
No trackpoint
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So my W520 from the incommunicado seller has finally arrived, and while it came with more memory than described (16GB vs 8GB), it has a weaker processor (2720qm vs. 2760qm) and is a little more beat up than the seller let on to. I'm kind of conflicted insofar as how I should react to this.
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>>51478488
The T510 that I got for $95 handles New Vegas, STALKER, and DMC4 quite well at native resolution. T420 with dedicated graphics probably offers even better performance between the stronger CPU and better API support and doubled VRAM on the GPU. If you get one with HD 3000, though, don't expect to play much more than Source games on low settings.
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>>51479204
8 GB of extra RAM is well worth the 500 passmarks.

As for the appearance, up to you.
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>>51478488

My thinkpads aren't ready for pickup ($10, $30) respectively, but I'm assuming they're going to perform similarly to my 2008 crappy HP laptop with iGPU.

PS1/N64 and earlier emulation ran fine, Starcraft 1 and (original) Counterstrike ran great, Minecraft ran *okay* but I had to turn render distance to tiny.

Basically /vr/ but not /v/. Maybe depending on the dGPU you could play < 2010 vidya, dunno.
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>>51479235
What the hell am I supposed to do with so much RAM, though? I was using a 4700MQ with 8 gigs for years and that was more than sufficient. My secondary computer is a T410s with the base processor and 4 gigs.

W520 is idling at like 11.5% memory usage right now. Seems to be running really hot too, the guy who got his for free said it would stay around 35c, but mine's up around 55c at idle. Is the 2720qm really that much hotter, or is the thermal paste just shot?
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>>51479448
It's good to repaste used Thinkpads anyways.

And I don't know, I use a X200 Tablet with 4Gb. But 16GB? I don't know, RAMdisks? Either way, it doesn't hurt.
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>>51479372
>Starcraft 1 and (original) Counterstrike ran great

This is literally no fucking surprise to me. I could run Counterstrike with no issues on my old Pentium 4, and I can run the original Starcraft fine on a Lombard Powerbook G3. I would certainly fucking hope anything you use daily would be more than capable of running those. I think the kind of information he's interested in is more along the lines of

>can it run TF2
>can it run CS:Source
>can it run SC2
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>>51479481
I've heard most of the time when you repaste a thinkpad, it just increases the idle temp.

The only thing you really need to do is give it a good dust cleaning unless something is really screwed up.
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>>51479840
Not according to my experience. I owned T42, T60, T61 and X200 Tablet.
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For you guys with x220t how is the screen glare and laptablet overall? Im debating between a x220, t420 and x220t. Seems like the only downside is the battery, aesthetics usb 3.0 port for the x220t.
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>>51460603

If you've learned any curly brace language, skip the beginners C# books- it's such an easy language. Go straight to C# in Depth. Does a really good job of going through the features and cuts through all the basic crap.
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>>51460859
are you getting that running windows? Running archlinux- cpu throttled, all ssd's- with upgraded battery, still get a shitty 8-10 hrs. Also the keyboard sucks. Even my x140 has a better keyboard. Really frustrating. Would've been perfect aside from the keyboard.
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>>51480228
t420 is my fav, i own all 3 of those
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>>51477310
>Look for one that is thinkpad specific
The one I posted is.

>Any 2.5 SSD will work.
I picked a Samsung 850 evo.

>nazi language
Is that why no one would reply?

Thanks for the help.
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>>51480228
Due to the overlay, the X220t will have the worst glare. It's not glossy but it's not exactly matte either (basically halfsies AG coat) so you'll get some reprieve but not very usable in sunlight
X220 and T420 would be roughly the same in that respect
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how is it in florescent lighting inside? Not gonna be using it outside
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>>51481135
It'll be fine. The only issue I have on regular use is direct sunlight on the train
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Can someone help me out? I recently bought a T410 and near keys j and k there is sort of a rise? Any clue how I can fix it?
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>>51481495
I had that on my T420 too. I think its due to the screw holding the panel directly under it, on the lower side of the laptop. The screw is really long, so unscrew it a bit so that it still holds whatever its holding but its not driven completely into its socket.
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>>51481582
Correction; not the panel itself, but whatever is inside the panel. I can't remember what is was, but I think the screw held the keyboard. I had to undo it to get to the RAM slot under the keyboard.
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is the x220t capable of using 16GB RAM?
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>>51482032

Yes
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>>51482166
How about a dedicated card, and a 1920*1080 screen?
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>>51482184
Externally, sure. Get one of those eGPU expresscards, hook up your favorite desktop GPU and screen and enjoy.

The X220T has enough heat problems as it is that putting that sort of hardware inside it would be suicidal.
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>>51482840
Yeah, I mostly mean as a docking solution, except for the screen, which would be real nice to have on the go.

Well, it's probably going to be a x220t or a yoga for me.

I really like the 1920*1080 screen on the yoga 15, but it's hard to argue with the 220t price point.
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How long should an X220 last for a user who basically just needs to run Firefox? All I really need to do is run a few Valve/indie games on Steam on Ubuntu, run Firefox, and listen to music. I fully intent on installing an IPS panel and an SSD at some point in time.

I know futureproofing is retarded, but I'm honestly curious.
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>>51482881
As far as I know there's no 1080p mod for the tablet variant, but it's a 12.5" device anyway. 768p certainly feels cramped sometimes, but you get used to it. It's nowhere near as awful as the resolution would be on a 14 or 15 inch laptop.
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Anonymous 11/22/15(Sun)23:33:22 No.51483129 ▶>>51483170

Buying a thinkpad just to play around with linux.
>Lenovo G530 15"Laptop
>$135
>craiglist
>comes with everything, and claims it's in good use
>it's a tech store so if anything i can return it

Should I do it /g/, or ask for cheaper?
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>>51483188
M8, that isn't a thinkpad. Buy a t420 like a real NEET.
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>>51483299
>Lenovo THINKPAD x200 12"Laptop-160g HD-2.4Ghz-4gRAM
Is what I meant instead of G530, fuck my bad.
Should I bargain and drop it to 120 or is it cheap enough like that?
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>>51483188

If it's not at least a T420/X220/whatever else from that generation, it's not a Thinkpad. Think about what actually makes the Thinkpad line worthwhile and try again.
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>>51483366
I made a typo my man, look the post above.
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>>51481614
Thanks man , it was under the ram panel and the screw was directly under the j key.
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>>51483381
My mistake then. I wouldn't pay more than $100 for an x200 personally, but I would highly consider an X220 at least. That architecture is almost half a decade old, and while still capable I wouldn't invest in anything before it.
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I have a t410 and under the bios it has 3 modes for my gpu, what do they mean?
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t420 vs t420s? why and good price for either?
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>>51483446
Sucks that they don't sell any in near me, and I need it asap. How much would you pay for a x200 then?
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>>51483557
>I wouldn't pay more than $100 for an x200 personally,
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>>51483608
>texted 100
ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY MEN DIS LAPTOP IS WORTH MORE THAN 200 AND I SELL VERY CHEAP
>bro i'm a college student calm down, i'll buy it for a 100 right now
120
>come on 100 dollars, the architecture of that laptop is pretty old, and i just need it to download linux
JAJAJAJJAJA PUTA MADRE 120 DOLARES O VETE A LLA MIERDA GRINGo

I sure love living in florida, they rarely sell /g/ related stuff and it's filled of cubans.
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>>51483679
ok
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>>51462524
do us all a favor and pick one static one so I can filter your dumb ass
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>>51482166
>JAJAJAJJAJA PUTA MADRE 120 DOLARES O VETE A LLA MIERDA GRINGo

lol. i hardly can picture a cuban with a thinkpad. latinos are not really bright when is related to tech.

just check these abominations they made on argentina, philco or some shit like that.

inb4 argentina is white.
>>>/pol/
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>>51461291
45-50c browsing 4chin
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>>51483977
He probalby just bought because they were cheap. Bitch is from fucking Hialeah (cuban ghetto).
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>>51473002
just make sure you clean the heatsink and chips off nicely
that new quadcore will make the system run a bit toasty, and you want your temps to be as low as possible.
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Anyone know what resolution the t420s from shop-arrow-direct come in? It doesn't say if its the 1368x768 or the 1600x900
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>>51483039
The end of time or 5+ years, whichever comes first.
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>>51483188
Buy T/X/W series only. Read the sticky.
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>>51484316
Ask them. If it's not specified, generally assume the least desirable

>>51484086
I'd actually be surprised if they installed a smaller heatsink assembly just for the sake of cutting costs on top. Then again, the graphics chip relies on the same piece of metal
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>>51483039
well my x60t has served me well since 2007. im only replacing because the backlight is getting rekt.
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>>51484394
i had a feeling, is the t420s worth it over the t420? because teh t420s has a guaranteed 1600x900 resolution and its thinner
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how do you guys keep your keyboards clean? I've just been swabbing the keys with a cotton swab using alcohol, is this the best method of removing grease? just curious because I don't want the keys to wear quickly.
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>>51483039
5-10 years
the only thing that has noticable impoved in newer cpus is the integrated graphics and the battery life. cpu performance has stagnated since sandy bridge (whats in the x220)
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>>51483480
what are they?
im assuming that it's dgpu only, switchable, and igpu only
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>>51484316
unless they specify it always assume it's the worse
also you can ask them, but don't get sad when its 1366x768
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>>51484428
If you're ok with the reduced battery life maybe. The T420s 6 cell is 20% smaller than the T420 6 cell and there's no 9 cell for it

>>51484517
I just use wet tissues
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Considering a used Thinkpad instead of something new on Black Friday. I've never purchased or owned my own laptop before.

I'm a 5th year CS major, a bit late to the party but eager to learn. I'd mostly browse and program on it. Looking for a 15" screen, since I like to split the screen between documentation and text editor. I'd also probably run Linux Mint to learn my way around that.

I saw a few T500 with 3.06 Ghz and 4GB RAM on ebay but are the incomplete ones overly ambitious for someone like me? Does the buyers' guide's recommended price still apply for these, when most seem to have slower processors?
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>>51487340
>5th year CS major

what went so wrong
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>>51462280
Link?
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>>51487340
The screens on the T400 and T500 are sub par
Get the T510
>>
mSATA SSD on a t420?
>>
>>51488612
SATA
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>>51488612
>>51488712
What's the difference?

>2 posts 10 posts apart, 10 minutes apart
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>>51488963
woah
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>>51488963
Iirc msata is only sata2 while data is sata3 on these machines.
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>>51489077
Is the Ultrabay Sata3?
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>>51489077
Good for benchmarks, barely noticeable in any real world applications.
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>>51489393
Yes
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>>51489471

That's cool, makes me want to get it.

What to do with hard to press keys on my T410? Could be dirt or is the rubber is dying?
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>>51489573
irrelevant?
You should be able to replace the whole KB for 30ish?
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>>51489651

I'd rather see to fix it if it's just dirty. A reputable battery seller would be great to know though.

Is there a seller on Amazon that delivers good batteries?
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>>51489776
apparantly theres a recall in place.
Do i smell free battery?
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>>51489874
only if it was made in late 2011/early 2012 by sanyo
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ThinkPad X301 for 120, good deal m'gents?
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I ended up buying a t520 with an NVS 4200 like a retard, and now dealing with Optimus on openSUSE is anally annihilating me.
I've decided to switch motherboards, exchanging the current one with one of those without dGPU.
Is that a simple drop-in replacement? Is there anything I have to mind?
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>>51490040
T520 without an NVS 4200 here, I was looking into getting an NVS 4200 a couple weeks back, and I read something about different heatsinks on the two models.

Though I'm not sure if they're different enough to require a new heatsink if you're removing the dGPU, but you might wanna look into that.
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>Looked into buying a thinkpad
>Got an x220 tablet
>Both my brothers got thinkpads as well because of how nice mine is
They really are nice little computers, aren't they?
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>>51490040
Can't you just turn it off in BIOS?
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>>51490040
use a distro that isn't shit
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>>51490002
You do understand that you'll have to run a very efficient software stack on a SU9XXX to be productive with it, yes? Unless you don't mind waiting.

>>51490099
I've already looked into that; you do require a different one for the dedicated GPU, though they are regularly sold on eBay and the likes.
They're easily recognizable by their additional copper heat pipe and a second "arm" for covering the nVidia card.

>>51490130
Indeed I can, but that way I still can't access the digital video outputs.
They're hard-wired to the dGPU, and I don't intend sticking with VGA.

>>51490196
It barely works on Ubuntu too, and I certainly won't be using the proprietary drivers.
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>>51490233
>and I certainly won't be using the proprietary drivers.
>open source drivers
>functional

choose one
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>>51490233
>efficient software stack
well, i was planning to install debian on it and use it as my debian working computer
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>>51490267
X201.
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>>51490233
Man you don't know what you're talking about, gtfo. If you're too retarded to get a shit OS like suse to work, you deserve it.
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>>51490233
>>51490285
Don't listen to this kid the x301 runs good/decent on Debian. The kid that gave you that tip can't even run his fucking opensuse on his computer.
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>>51490301
>stuck with shit 1.8" drives

no thanks
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>>51490233
you're running shit OS and are complaining
did you just got out a linux friendly thread and decided to try suse and ubuntu because from what im reading here it looks to me you dont know much
>>
I'm waiting on my Dell Precision M4800, what do you guys think of it?
Here are the stats:

Screen - 15.6"
CPU - Intel® Core™ i7, 4910MQ, 2.90 Ghz (3.90 GHz Turbo Boost), Cache 8 MB
RAM - 16 GB - DDR3 - 1600 MHz
SDD - 256 GB
GPU - Quadro K2100M - 2GB

It seemed to have a small edge in quality of construction compared to the equivalent Lenovo Thinkpad (W541) but the downside is that it is heavier. Anyone have any experience with it? I'll be using it as a CAD machine.
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>>51490247
nv works just fine on my Desktop.

>>51490267
What I meant by that is, don't expect stuff like intellij IDEs to be performant.
And yes, 120 bucks are a good price if it's in good condition.
Just consider that the SSDs in there are a bit hard to come by nowadays.

>>51490290
If you know something that I don't, I'd really like to learn from you.
All I gathered so far is that, when using primus to dump into another card's framebuffer, you still get heavy ghosting on your external display. I haven't found a way to remedy that fact.
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>>51490362
>he didn't wait for the Skylake mobile workstations

nigga what the fuck are you doing, if you paid full list price for that as well you might as well cancel the order
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>>51489980
balls
>ohwell.jpg
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>>51490359
I've been running Linux for quite a while now, though I don't much bother for fixing stuff beyond writing around in confs. I decided to use openSUSE due to yast and the good KDE integration.
I've been running Arch for a while on my server, but decided it wasn't worth the effort and switched to Ubuntu Server.
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>>51490372
>not using netbeans
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Is a t420 with 6gb ram, 1600x900 screen,an i5 2520m, and 320gb HDD for 154.99 shipped a good deal? Also has pic related damage to bezel, I can't tell what's damaged or if it's bad
>>
I know the Yoga isn't an approved thinkpad. I've heard the keyboard sucks, and it lacks some of the durability features that make the t, w, and x lines great.

But does it at least feature the GOAT documentation and easy modding?
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>>51490633
no
>>
Thinkpads are pretty expensive when brand new, but why do people sell it for such dirt cheap prices?

Like it's comparing heaven to earth, I see some thinkpad estimated for 1k and I see people at ebay + craigl selling them for 100 - 200 bucks, 300 MAX.

Please enlighten me..
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>>51490578
Sounds like a good deal. Try to bring it down to 130-140 if you can.

As for the 'damage', it seems like the front part is detached from the back cover. It might just snap back into place, though the owner would've already done it if it were that simple.

Shouldn't be too big an issue assuming the screen isn't damaged. Try to get a 3-4 day checking warranty if you can.
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>>51490642
And I know the question in itself sounds dumb, but I have never seen a laptop drop so much value after some use and time.
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>>51490642
>Used ThinkPads are cheap because after businesses are done with them, which is 3-4 years after they've been released, they flood the market. New ThinkPads currently aren't worth it because they usually cost a lot more than other laptops with similar specifications and sometimes even more than Apple laptops, which are known for being heavily overpriced.
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>>51490642
All laptops drop prices fast, except for Macbooks, I think.

There's also the fact that laptops with dedicated graphics chips have a short lifespan due to overheating issues.
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>>51490578
I would never buy damaged bezels since it triggers my OCD, and it's usually a sign that the computer has other problems within it generated by improper care.

That's me though, and if it were me I would give that guy 120 dollars.
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>>51490652
It's on eBay so I don't think, I could bring it down, but how hard do you think it would be to fix that issue if it's actually a problem?
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>>51490662
>>51490642
Basically businesses auction them off en masse, lowering the price. If a craigslist guy was selling a thinkpad for 500 bucks, nobody would buy it, because they can just wait until Humana or some startup is done with it, and selling them for a hundred bucks.
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>>51490642

Read the fucking OP
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>>51490695
>Basically businesses auction them off en masse

usually they don't have time for that shit, they send it to an electronics recycler
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>>51490711
My mistake. Most of my experience so far is with Humana, which auctions the thinkpads off every year to employees. My mom works there, and I just pay her to buy things for me.
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>>51490745
nah, it's fine.

i guess it varies from place to place, depends if the it department can be fucked to reimage/dban a whole bunch of machines
>>
>>51490652
>>51490687
How about t420 with 4gb ram, 320GB HDD, 1600x900, i5 2520m, except battery is 52% of usable life for like $148
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>>51490843
115 dollars
go try craiglist, you usually find more reasonable prices there

most people hat know about computers get shit from craiglist to scam you in ebay + in craiglist you can get your stuff faster
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>>51490864
Don't have access to transportation to pick up anything
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>>51490896
If those 2 were the cheapest you could fin in ebay, then you're getting ripped 20-60 bucks by using ebay.
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>>51490929
They're all more expensive on craigslist, plus I could get a cheaper one but I want one with the 1600x900 display instead of a shitty 1368x768
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>>51490843
>>51490951
The one with 4gigs and 52% battery should be shouldn't be more than 130 bucks.

You could look more to save 20-30 bucks, but if the laptop is in a good condition, it isn't a bad price.
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>>51490929
They're all more expensive on craigslist, plus I could get a cheaper one but I want one with the 1600x900 display instead of a shitty 1368x768>>51491047
Literally can't find anything in good condition for $130
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>>51491066
Start a bit higher at ~150 and bring it down. A good condition ThinkPad is worth it, though. 20-30 bucks isn't a big deal, but just make sure it isn't banged up.
>>
My t420 has been having a weird trackpoint issue with Mint. Every time I use it to scroll down in firefox it loads my homepage. Dies anyone know how to fix this? It seems that just pressing the middle button does it now.
>>
>>51473002
if you don't need the discrete and want cooler temps and lower power draw you can disable the discrete in bios.
>>
> 12.5" Full HD - IPS (1920x1080)
> Intel HD 4400
> i5-4210U Dual Core (1.7-2.7 GHz)
> 8GB DDR3L
> 500GB SSHD
>DOS
> 3 years Warranty (only 2 left, cause used)

Got this for 500€. good? bad?
Also a question to the /g/ - Does the top of the notebook get easy cratches ? I mean this is a soft plastic material and i think after time using it could get few cratches - am i right?
Also general minds on x240? I heared Touchpad is shit, but if using it right its nice..
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>>51491134
It's a x240 i forgot to write it on the top. sorry
>>
Anyone update their t420 to windosh 10 ?
>>
>>51491194
Yup. Working fine. Might have to painstakingly search for some drivers at first, but its fine from there on.
>>
People are seriously downloading mint and suse non-ironically?
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How much would someone be willing to pay for a T430s with the FHD IPS mod preinstalled, backlit keyboard, and ultrabay battery? I'm trying to decide if I should part it out or sell as-is.

B140HAN01.2 1920x1080 FHD IPS screen
12GB RAM
i5-3320M
Seagate 600 240GB SSD
Intel 2200 WiFi
Backlit keyboard
6-cell battery
3-cell ultrabay battery
New touchpad buttons
New touchpad sticker
Fingerprint reader
Webcam

She's a fucking beauty but I'm going on some extended travels and am looking at procuring an X240 instead and swapping out the touchpad.

Since the T420s/T430s FHD kit is out of production I figure I could get a pretty penny for it alone on eBay although that would mean I'd need to part out the rest of the laptop.
>>
>>51491202
Go to the components manufactures pages ? Since lenovo doesnt provide windows 10 drivers ? Also power manager possible ?
Heard it wasnt
>>
>>51488149
Depression + Change of Major

>>51488289
Don't really need a nice screen. Just want to minimize cost here. Doesn't the T510 go for a bit more?


I wish someone would answer my questions rather than saying something trivial.
>>
>>51491295
Yeah, that's what I did, though windows would get some of the drivers on its own.

Power manager from win7 didn't work. Didn't try to look for a win10 version. Didn't really use it.
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>>51491310
>5th year CS major
>wants to learn way around Linux Mint

Good lord
>>
My Thinkpad just survived a pretty ballsy drop, the display port adapter that was plugged in was fucked and the DVD drive fell out, but it's fine. Cheers, Thinkpad.
>>
>>51491310
Yeah, the newer versions go for more, obviously, but at least get a 1st or 2nd gen i5 to get decent performance.

Also, the W series costs more than the T cause of its size, so you could look into 14inch T's. 14 isn't a bad size for what you wanna do.
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>>51491205
What's wrong with either of them?
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>>51491496
SUSE is fine, but Mint is just a double-derivative of Debian, which is asinine.
>>
>>51491310
A t520 or t420 can be bought for 200 bucks with a bit of patience, and depending on where you live.
In case you're not satisfied with any of the components, they're easily replaceable.
>>
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>>51491648
>t420 can be bought for 200 bucks
>t420
>200 bucks
>>
>>51490114
I got myself x220 a week ago, because fuck tablets, and it's extremely comfy when it comes to laying down to shitpost, watch anime, or even code
and it runs old emulator and some newer indie shit as well
>>
>>51491704
Please read the whole sentence.
>>
>>51491704
l2ebay

I bought a T430 for $210 shipped a couple of weeks ago. Look for auctions that end at weird times and use an ebay sniper like glixen.
>>
would anybody in southern NJ be willing to make a straight up trade of a thinkpad for an old acer laptop?

it works i just have to restore it.
>>
>>51491957
why the fuck would someone do that
>>
>>51491976
idk
>>
can you guys please post pictures of your x220s?
>>
>>51490421
I did pay full price for it but i just ordered it so I could still cancel. When are the sky kakes reased in the uk?
>>
>>51492480
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/precision-m7510-workstation/pd?oc=xctop7510emea

Call up Dell, get a discount,

Ask if the long life battery is available & order it, because my M4800 battery is having pretty bad wear at 330 cycles whereas the long life is rated to 1000 cycles.
>>
>>51458970

W510 with 128 ssd for 450$ CAD or thinkpad T420 for 270$ CAD?

I need a laptop to do programming on. Battery life isnt a big deal, but it would be nice.
>>
>>51492649
T420
>>
So I was considering buying a T420 for school stuff and putting a Samsung EVO 250GB ssd in it. Then my friend who is supposedly an expert said that the SSD would not be able to perform optimally because it would get bottlenecked by everything else.

Is this true or nonsense?
>>
>>51492963
He's clearly an expert at being fucking retarded and wrong.
>>
How does /tpg/ rate the E550? I'm thinking about getting one.
>>
X220 refurbrished for $156?
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>get a thinkpad, they said
>it will be great, they said

>battery only charges to 30% even though is an extended 9cell one
>performance overall is rubbish
>screen has damaged lines and dirt in it
>trackpad and trackpoint are not comfortable to use
>build quality is pretty bad
>>
>>51493673
>I bought a thinkpad with shit battery and damaged screen
>It's all your fault, anons
>and I can't play fallout 4 on integrated graphics
>what piece of shit
>>
>>51458970
Is this a regular thread or is it just a weird coincidence that I just got an old thinkpad from a friend yesterday and visited this board for the third time in my life.

Anyways, got manjaro running and it really feels quite nice and all
>>
>>51493673
>too stupid to not carefully read over details for defects, like in the screen
>too stupid to realize that you most likely aren't getting a new battery with a used laptop
>stupid enough to try and game on a business laptop, AND complain when it doesn't run as if it had a gtx Titan
>>
>>51493812
One of the regular threads, and - in my opinion - one of the better regulars.

What model do you have?
>>
>>51493039
did you bother reading the op
>>
How much should I offer on this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T500-15-4-Laptop-P9900-3-06GHz-4GB-RAM-250GB-HDD-Win7-/121704415159?hash=item1c5625ffb7:g:wN4AAOSwYHxWK-XI
>>
The hinges on my t420 hare somewhat loose, how hard is it to replace them?, would them from china that cost a few $ work good?
>>
>>51494066
Open it up and tighten the hinges, maybe use some light threadlocker.

Google 't420 hmm'
>>
>>51493673
>buying a meme
>>
>>51494192
Whenever someone says this, it's clear they've never done it before. There is no screw to 'tighten' the hinges, it's a sealed bearing. If your hinge is loose, it's just worn out and needs replacing.
>>
How long would my T420 last with this?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Cell-Genuine-Battery-Lenovo-ThinkPad-L421-L520-T410i-T420-T510i-T520-W510-W520-/272029002689?hash=item3f56312bc1:g:vq4AAOSwT4lWSkV3
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>>51494792
Depends what you are doing with it, but I'd say 4-5hrs on average.
>>
>>51494861
I see, thanks, I got a 6cell now I get 1-2hrs while using firefox.
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>>51460625
>>51466428
deffinately has a more solid job than yo
>>
>>51494861
>>51494861
How do people get 10h ish on t420 I have read that people do get that here.
>>
>>51494919
by idling on their riced out gentoo install
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>>51494919
8 is more realistic for a new 9 creek doing light tasks such as browsing.
>>
Currently using an x201 with 4gb ram, i5 2.4, and 1 TB HDD

Would that be adequate specs for comp sci, I plan to IDES and will be running a lot of processes

I'm not sure if I should upgrade now or wait and see if i need an upgrade.
>>
>>51460603
>I have not really gotten the chance to use my X230
you'll love it

i7 or i5?

im using mine right now. if it was 1600x900 it would be the perfect laptop
>>
>>51494973
>creek
Suck a dick autocorrect.
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>>51494919
Brightness low
wifi off
all peripherals off
boot up gentoo kernel with hwclock support
underclock
undervolt
>>
>>51495035
None of that is necessary at all.
>>
>>51494979
get SSD and 8gb ram and see then?, btw whats ur battery life like 6 or 9 cell?
>>
>>51495080
You are not getting 10 hours with an M-series Sandy Bridge and a 9-cell without doing at least 3 or 4 of those things, if it is even possible at all, which I highly doubt
>>
>>51495097
It's a 9 cell but the battery is pretty shitty, i'm only getting like 2-4 on the web and like 1-2 with programming sessions

How significant would an SSD be?
>>
tfw only get 3hrs on my x201 with 9cell and SSD, days when I got 6-8hrs while using firefox and openoffice,
any other x201 out there whats your battery life like?
>>
just received my new laptop

i5-2520M @ 2.5 GHz
6 GB ram
128 SSD (samsung 840 pro)
nvidia nvs 4200m w/ 512 MB
1600x900
big battery
win 7 and ms office 2007 (and win 7 recovery disc)

$160 + 12$ shipping

gotta finish installing the rest of the software I use for school and checking for driver updates, but with those specs, i think I did pretty good. it's in really good shape, and must be a later model because it has the webcam and backlit keyboard (some of the e6420's don't have these features). I'm especially excited about the nvidia card, because i plan on using the CAD/CFD drivers and trying to utilize its CUDA compute cores.
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>>51495265
forgot to mention, it's a dell e6420
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>>51495265
No, the webcam (security) and backlit keyboard (cost) are options.
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>go on ebay, look for battery
>all them from CHINA
>have to wait 18-30days for a battery
why?!?
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>>51495721
Do you want a rundown of global economics, or what?
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>>51493838
A Lenovo Thinkpad t43 (type 2668) ithink
I suppose the battery has gone shit but haven't really tried extensively yet.

Should make for a student book for university though
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>>51493673
>buy any product
>be a fucking idiot and don't research or read the buyer's specs
WHAT WENT WRONG?
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>>51493673
Why doesn't the guide go over the specs choices in more detail? I'm not sure if I should go for an i7 or i5. I'm thinking 8GB and preferably >=320GB HD. So, i5 or i7?
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Not really thinkpad-specific, but are there any mPCIE software defined radios (that also work with Linux)? I want to make use of the WWAN slot and antennas. Starting to study for my Technician license.
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>>51458970
ThinkPads are objectively worth the numerous other laptops for same or less money. You fuckers just fell for the vintage laptop meme. Anything after IBM ThinkPads at the time that they were released are shit and even their shit tier>>51458970
now
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>>51496712
Click the model and it will take you straight to the corresponding thinkwiki page.
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>>51496712
Not a huge difference between most mobile i5s and i7s, they're both hyperthreaded dualcores usually. Some quadcore mobile i7s exist, but they only come standard on W series and some well-equipped 15" T series. If you don't know that you need an i7, chances are good that you don't.

Also, you shouldn't really take RAM or storage into consideration when getting a Thinkpad, since it's such a cheap and easy thing to purchase and install yourself. More is better obviously, especially if it doesn't impact the price much, but you should be mainly concerned about the things that are more difficult or impossible to upgrade, such as the screen, CPU, and GPU. CPUs on X series and slim variant T series (i.e. T420s) are soldered, and GPUs are soldered on all models.
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>>51496904
So edgy.
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>>51496712
Get the one that appears to be the best offer and you know will suit at least your current use cases.
Swapping CPU, display, RAM and drives is entirely possible and actually quite well documented, no particular GoogleFu required.
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>>51497032
Thanks, lot of good info.
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>>51458970
An X200 should be on its way in the mail right now.
Just placed an order for a T61 as well.
How bad did I fuck up?
I just want them for the hell of it.
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>Why is it better to buy a used thinkpad over a new one? Is it really?

>Is it worth waiting for Cyber Monday/black Friday to buy one?

>What thinkpads do you own, and why did you buy it? What price did you buy it at too? - Just interested to know which ones you guys bought, the main reasons, what you use it for, etc.

>Which thinkpads are considered objectively best at this time?

>Why do i hear people saying Lenovo has fucked up with thinkpads. i hear this all the time, but i don't know the context.

>Are all thinkpads built with windows preinstalled? I have always associated thinkpads with linux for some reason, although looking around, it seems as though windows is always the main choice.

>Why are thinkpads so popular? What is it that makes them so famous?
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>>51491134
Still pretty expensive for a used chinkpad and clickpad is objectively shit

Swap out the clickpad for the X250's touchpad with physical trackpoint buttons
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how horrible is 1366x768? the x220 looks nice but I have concerns it might not be enough, is it still worth it over a t420 with 1600x900?
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>>51497402
>Why is it better to buy a used thinkpad over a new one? Is it really?

It's cheaper and a 2nd gen i5 is comparable in performance to a broadwell (i5-5200u) one


>What thinkpads do you own, and why did you buy it? What price did you buy it at too? - Just interested to know which ones you guys bought, the main reasons, what you use it for, etc.

T420, because I wanted a better laptop than the one I had, $175 off craigslist. I use it as my daily machine, shitposting, YouTube, indie games and the such.


>Are all thinkpads built with windows preinstalled? I have always associated thinkpads with linux for some reason, although looking around, it seems as though windows is always the main choice.

Yes, Linux is easy enough to install (besides meme distros) that you have no excuse to not do it yourself.


>Why are thinkpads so popular? What is it that makes them so famous?

Durable and cheap used laptops with great Linux support.
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>>51497402

>>Why is it better to buy a used thinkpad over a new one? Is it really?
Used thinkpads have their prices significantly lowered for reasons already listed up this thread

>>Is it worth waiting for Cyber Monday/black Friday to buy one?
If you want a factory refurb or new chinkpad

>>What thinkpads do you own, and why did you buy it? What price did you buy it at too? - Just interested to know which ones you guys bought, the main reasons, what you use it for, etc.
Personally I own a T24 for gentoo server, T30 for collection, T60 for CentOS server, T61p for watching videos on glorious 15" 1920x1200, X200 for family use, X201t for drawfagging and X220 as daily driver

>>Which thinkpads are considered objectively best at this time?
X220 and T420 in 1600x900

>>Why do i hear people saying Lenovo has fucked up with thinkpads. i hear this all the time, but i don't know the context.
*20 series were the last with 7 row keyboard before the *30 series and beyond changed to 6 row chiclets, where the 7 row layout is objectively superior. *40 series also have a clickpad without physical trackpoint buttons that sucked at detecting trackpoint clicks, but it can be fixed by swapping it out to a *50 trackpad which brought back physical buttons. Reduced build quality in favor of muh thinness and muh lightweight as well as soldered components are also factors

>>Are all thinkpads built with windows preinstalled? I have always associated thinkpads with linux for some reason, although looking around, it seems as though windows is always the main choice.
Depends on who sold them. Some sellers install mint or ubuntu on their machines before selling them while others just format the drive or leave wangblows installed

>>Why are thinkpads so popular? What is it that makes them so famous?
Lurk moar
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T500
P9900 @ 3.06Ghz
4GB RAM
No hard drive, caddy, or cover.
No charger.
Fan is loud.

How much should I pay for this?
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Why is it that used Thinkpads are so cheap
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Would /g/ date a girl who uses an X61s?
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>>51498004
>1280x800 15.4”
Pass on it anon
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>>51491280
Maybe like 500-600? Because of the SSD and screen. Not sure though, but that's just my extremely rough estimate
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>>51497777
Anyone? Plz?
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>>51495239
Not x201, but x200s if that's alright. Around 6 hours on 9 cell
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>>51497777
Personally, it's not too noticeable on a 12'' screen, but it depends on your needs whether you would go with a T420 for better resolution. It's really up to your personal autism
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Does anyone here actually have experience using virtual machines on the T420 (i7)? How is it?

I'm using a second gen i5 on my desktop and it runs virtual machines at an acceptable level, but I've noticed that the mobile i7 tend to have even less performance than desktop i5 CPUs.
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>>51498404
Suitable for Programming, linux, shitposting, and classwork
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>>51498480
I would get the T420 for the extra lines of code, assuming you're not a pansy little bitch who can't carry around a few extra pounds
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>>51498496
Kek, I'm not concerned about the weight as much as the footprint and thickness
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Just bought my first thinkpad, t420 i5 4gb 320gb hdd for $115. How'd I do /g/? I need validation.
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So are slim versions really that bad?
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>>51498593
You did great anon good job! Here's a wallpaper for your new chinkpad
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>>51498853
Thanks, my boyfriend thinks it's cute.
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