/Fat/ General - "Holy fuck make a new thread you lazy fat

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What happens if I eat under 1500 calories? Like do I lose too much weight or does my body just lose muscle mass

>>42454774
yes 500cals under your TDEE per day

>>42454782
Are you lifting? Using muscle reduces muscle deterioration when cutting. Also protein cycling forces the body to use up useless protein first.

Reminder that your cheat meals should never be something that sits around in your house and isn't depleted after one sitting. Do not buy a tub of ice cream and eat a portion of it for your cheat meals. You will give in later and eat it.

>ate 1239 cal today
Feels good to keep going

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fuck you hunger

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I legititmently just contemplated killing myself after looking in the mirror at my body. I am seriously fat as hell. Please tell me I'm irrational

>>42455052
kill yourself for not knowing how to into exif data

>>42455052
kys yourself loser

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> tfw didnt died on the table during surgery

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>>42454867
>Are you lifting?
Yes daily, I alternative between upper body and lower body.

>protein cycling
Like muscle repair?

So what happens if I eat under 1500?

>>42455052
You're not even close to my definition of fat.
Also, cry for help in real life instead of in /fat/.

>>42455155
Well I don't know your tdee, so telling me 1500 doesn't really help. Are you 600 pounds or 50?

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>>42455052
>I posted in a fat thread so I can could get approval and attention whore

>>42455180
No, I need tips. Should I just do a fast for a month? Stop eating all together?

>130kg 3 weeks ago
>Down to 126kg
I feel good about this but I have a long way to go to reach my ideal of 70kg
How do you guys deal with social pressure to eat poorly? When out with friends they head to mcdonalds and I go with them, should I just stop being a bitch and get something else?

>tfw i found out i have hemorrhoids today

>>42455155
What's your current TDEE?

>>42455052
Look you don't belong in a /fat/ thread. Bulk up a little, then cut, you're fine. You're above normie tier if that's what you want to hear so that's something.

>>42455219
>bring snacks to tied you over
>say you want something else
>get new friends
>get some mcdonalds but keep it reasonable and plan accordingly with your other meals

Can I still lose weight just by eating below my TDEE and basic exercise like bicycling without lifting?

>>42455219
If you get a normal meal with a diet drink mcdonalds only racks up to like 750 calories.
I can have a normal breakfast, and a small dinner and still maintain my cut.
Don't lose all your friends over a few calories, just reduce how much you eat for the other meals that day, its just math.

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>>42454782
>using deprecated wojaks

>ate A&W today but only ended up at 1300 calories for the day

Not proud of it but at least I'm way under.

Just got laid for the first time since my girlfriend left me 6 years agos. I was up to 360lbs i'm now 220ish. I installed Tinder and got a few bites but the other day I got matched with this 45 year old women. We met up today, had a few drinks, talked a lot. Between the drinks and all the emotional baggage i've been carrying I turned into a blabber mouth and told her my whole life story and how lonely i've been and how I gained a ton of weight when my girlfriend left me. She just told me we should talk more about it at her place, next thing I know i'm in her bed and she's on top of me and i'm so fucking nervous she asks me when was the last time I was with a women, I told her the last women I was with was my ex girlfriend and she was the only one I was ever with. She told me to to relax and she would do all the work. Felt so good /fat/ to be touched by a woman again, she said she wants to help me find a girl my age and help me get over how nervous I am around women.

I would be over 400lbs if it wasn't for you guys, thanks /fat/ we all are gonna make it

>>42455448
>will eating healthy with exercise make me lose weight
What could possibly make you think that you would need to lift to lose weight?

>>42455448
Sure if you want to be an ugly disgusting freak when you're done cutting.

>>42455486
I can't parse memes from real advice and I spend too much time here

>>42455448
There's no reason not to lift. Keeps your strength up, burns calories. The muscles will help fill you in as you cut, otherwise you'll just be a skinnyfat shlub or an anorexic.

>>42455496
You can do starting strength if you want during your cut, but convention is you bulk and lift after your cut is finished to build back the muscle that was lost during the cut.

>>42455509
that ain't what the sticky says

Well I hit my goal, 25kg lost.

But I don't feel elated or anything, if anything I feel depressed, 25kg lost and I realised I still have another 3-6kg to go.

I don't know why I feel so down about it.

>>42455525
Time to start lifting

>>42455515
I haven't the read the sticky in a while, but what I can tell from what I've read here is lifting isn't essential but is good for burning calories and will help prevent you being a skinnyfat at the end.

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>>42455448
>>42455486
>>42455496
>>42455509

>>42455515
You're damn right, the other anon is an eternal /fat/izen, if you want advice ask in other /fit/ threads too.
To lose weight you need only be under your TDEE, this can be achieved by eating less and exercising.
Cardio will very slightly help metabolism but that's it, though it's great for you heart so do it.
Weight lifting will keep more muscle on your bones and make you look good.
Remember diet if you want to be thinner, diet and exercise if you want to look good and have an easier time keeping off the fat (more muscles=more calories).

>>42455555
How can I do that with no money and no equipment

>>42455555
I know, but that's not what the dude was asking.

>>42455571
Get a job you fat ugly fuck.

>>42455515
>>42455568
Also
>You can do starting strength if you want during your cut, but convention is you bulk and lift after your cut is finished to build back the muscle that was lost during the cut.
No this isn't convention, convention is to always lift.
Lifting is low impact and doesn't hurt your joints, there's no reason a fatty shouldn't be lifting while losing weight, it will only make the fat loss more drastic and allow them to fill up volume under the skin so saggy skin won't be as bad.

Diet only if you want, it will work but you will regret it when you look like shit, trust me.
Get in the routine of taking care of your body now anon.

>>42455571
Go to bodyweight generals, don't ask for a special plan because you being fat shouldn't change anything.

Jesus fucking christ my TDEE is over 3100 (simple).

I just need to find healthy shit to eat but I'm too fucking lazy to do the research. I can work out every day for about an hour. Only cardio but better than nothing. Any food tips? I don't care if I have to eat the same shit every day, just want someone else who's had the same issue to tell me what to do.

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>tfw a massive chunk of my understanding of weightloss was wrong
Whoops
Looks like I need to start lifting eh?

>>42455610
by your tdee I'm guess you're very heavy. maybe at your weight body weight exercises would be good? just talking out of my ass here

>>42455610
Put in the minimal amount of effort anon.
Protip: 4chan has archives, not the meme 48 hour ones but the true archives.
Look up "cutting recipes" or "cutting foods" or some shit in the /fit/ archive, with only OP posts listed.
Far more information there.

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>>42443698
320 Today, ^2lbs from yesterday, V5lbs from start.

3.6mi on the treadmill, 20.6mi overall.

>>42455610
>I just need to find healthy shit to eat but I'm too fucking lazy to do the research.

Chikkin and beenz.

If you're mildly /fat/ is it better to get down somewhat lean before trying to build muscle or can you lose weight and gain muscle at the same time (at a faster rate than just focusing on losing weight then switching to gaining muscle)?

I'm 178 cm (5'10") and 77kg (175 lbs). I have little muscle so I am fat at this weight and height, got a big beer belly. I was thinking of just trying to hit 70kg and then building muscle but I'm curious what you guys think

>>42455874
It's either
>focus on losing fat while keeping strength loss to a minimum
or
>focus on gaining strength while keeping fat gain to a minimum

Don't try to do both. You'll get nowhere.

>>42455888
Got it, I'll just lose the weight first then. Cheers

>>42455485
holy shit bro, you literally found a mommy to fuck you and take care of you
hope you make it lad

is cico a myth, /fat/?

>>42449616
How the fuck are you at that bf % with no love handles or belly fat?

>>42455052
Yeah kill yoursefl

>>42455917
idk man was newton retarded?

>>42455964
well when i google cico almost all the articles say that cico is bad and stupid

>>42455610
chicken breast and veggie steamer boxes/bags from green giant
Add some marinade flavors to your chicken, before or during baking
Good stuff
I do 1 breast and 1 box meals for around 450 calories
Im about the same TDEE as you, it really helped.

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keto flu is in full effect, how long does it last?

>>42454796
my cock is hard

>>42455969
the basic principle of cico will always, always work within the constraints of the laws of our physical universe.

it might be bad or stupid because people might still eat like shit (but under tdee) and then cave. basically they say it is "bad" because humans can stupidly misinterpret or abuse this information.

the basic underlying principle of cico will alway, always work.

>>42455978
Drink Powerade Zero. I started keto 10 days ago and drinking a couple bottles of that a day I had next to no symptoms.

>>42454782
nothing, the human body has millions of years of learning to endure periods of time with small amounts/no food. nearly everything you see on the internet about starvation mode/muscle loss is total bullshit from people who want you to buy into their program, fail and buy into it again. then people who post here have read that same bullshit and regurgitate it. when i lost my weight i cut at 1200 for 5 months, from 100kg to 71kg, 185cm, none of my lifts changed. my labs improved drastically and my physician commended me on a job well done. 2 years later i'm 73kg

>>42455982
all 2inches of it

>>42455989
thanks for the tip, now i just have to survive the night

>>42455991
fuck you bitch i got a big fat gorilla dick motherfucker present your asshole and i will fuck you to your crooked buckteeth you redneck cunt

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>>42456015
gorilla dicks are actually 2"

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>>42456015

today was my 7 months day, since i started
78 lbs lost

you're all gonna make it guys and so am I

lets keep going!
:^)

>>42455448
These fags are pretty much professional starcraft players telling you as a brand new player you're not min maxing and hitting your timings. Seriously I lost over 80 pounds of fat only eating a net of 1500 calories per day. My bench press went from 155 to 125 lol I think just getting in the habit and making progress is the goal. Once you get used to the stuff anyways you'll want to do more anyways. Baby steps nigger.

>>42455485
That's cool beans my dude; praying for you and my 85 pounds I gotta lose.

>>42456019
Why do you stare at gorilla dicks queermo

>>42456100
national geographic bro its good to know dick sizes of every species

>>42455448
You could step down your calories, do nothing and still lose weight.

>>42456100
>not checking out gorilla cocks
Your not gonna make it.

>>42456069
I was worried about stalling, but I'm about 50 lbs down in about 5 months. If I can keep it up a few more months I'll be very happy.

I know it's gonna slow down, I'm just not sure when.

>>42456197
depends how fat you are/were

Any other fatbros on the vlcd meme shakes?

whats a good low calorie protein shake/powder?
share g of protein:price for comparison

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CONFESS

I've just been having one large meal a day and not really eating anything else.

That's going to nail me in the ass right?

>>42456523
That's called 0MAD,it's fairly popular. It's basically intermittent fasting.

Personally I don't recommend it because it doesn't seem sustainable long term for me, but I don't think it's dangerous like water fasting.

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>>42456463
I wanted to try but my doctor said no.

>>42456544
have you tried water fasting? can you still exercise while doing it? how are the muscles going to recover without protein?

>>42456544
It just seems like a good way to fuck up your metabolism to me. My mother always stressed having small but regular snacks throughout the day to keep it regular but she's also a fat so fuck if I know now.

It's nothing planned either I'm just not really hungry for most of the day anymore, been like this for a couple of weeks now.

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>poop
>never done wiping

today I reached the 10kg lost goal, it took me two weeks of IF. tomorrow I get my bf% analyzed and I'll post the results here.

>>42456504
/fat/her give me strength, the missus wants to get McDonalds nuggies, they're currently 24 for $9.95.

If I starve myself to Auschwitz mode will I stop being skinnyfat?

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>>42456486
b-bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j2iD_EXUBA

This was motivating as fuck - apparently your cock DOES get bigger if you lose fat. And that's enough gratification to me to try losing weight.

>>42456702
Not watching, but of course it does. When you're fat the fat surrounds the dick at the base and you lose inches.

>accidentally broke my 170 mfp stream

It's not the end. It's a new beginning.

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>>42456607
>24 for $9.95.
God bless America.

>>42454757

almost finally under 80kg (from 154kg), it was a big goal for me for so long, now i can shot for my last goal (65kg) and finally start to bulk/maintain, never get this fat bros

>>42456921
Progress pics?

>>42456921
nice job anon

>>42456921
gj man

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>>42456921
Well done bro

>>42456921
>65
how tall are you?

>>42456910
it's not America

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>>42456993

What are the signs you have a thyroid problem?
I've been overweight a lot of my life, I don't eat as bad as a lot of people I know and recently upping my exercise and eating much better I'm noticing no change at all in my weight.
Kinda scared I have one.

>>42457142
you're eating too much

>>42455052
Post your suicide stream

>>42457069
Nice, there's a version of that cap without the word switcheroo. Enjoyed being in a cap for once, but that really ruined the first cap.

>trying to stop being a fat fuck
>went from 98kg to 78, still going until I look nice and lean
>while taking xanax and anti depressants at the same time which make me incredbily hungry and hurt my stomach whenever I'm not eating
are you proud of me, /fit/
I feel like I can do it

>>42457142
You'd be constantly cold and can't regulate temperature well. You cant exercise well unrelated from your being overweight. Biggest one is that you're constantly cold, even if in what is normally temperate or warm conditions.

>>42455610
cut out sugary drinks, drink water. Zero tolerance on this. They just go too fast and cost too much calorie wise. They would be fine if you just had the sugary drink, but drinking them WITH FOOD makes it a huge issue.

Stop trying to get the most food possible per meal.

I eat out a lot, most fat people do. It's easy and convenient.

Tryhards always want you to eat healthy to be healthy, but YOU DONT HAVE TO EAT HEALTHY. You dont have to eat home cooked meals, or buy oats and broccoli in a grocery store. That shit will only help you live longer at the expense of enjoying life.

You can eat like shit and lose weight. I'm losing weight eating at pizza places. One slice of pizza is at most 5-7 hundred calories, usually less. I go to work and have a fish taco and walk home grabbing a dank ass shit-burger from 7-11. Just dont buy two pizza slices like a fatass or get a fucking soda with it like a dumbass. Small meals, not 'value meals.'

Also, lift weights ya cheap fuck. It's more fun than cardio.

>>42457142
From what I've seen thyroid problems only make up 200-300 calorie difference.

You probably have to:
1. wait longer to see results
2. count calories more accurately

>I don't eat as bad as a lot of people I know
this is classic fat ass mental gymnastics. I used to do it too.

>>42457142
>I don't eat as bad as a lot of people I know
You do
>recently upping my exercise and eating much better
Not to the extent you probably think

How long have you been cutting ? Stats, activity level ?

>>42455052
go on reddit or facebook if you want compliments, faggot

>>42457001

178cm/5'10

>>42457256
Good luck with the skinnyfat dream

Just had a Dr appointment. My blood sugar holding steady, I'm kicking this diabetes in the ass.

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>>42457217
>One slice of pizza is at most 5-7 hundred calories
Where the fuck in the world is a slice of pizza that fucking big

>>42457395
NYC

>>42457395
>>42457405
good new york style pizza is at least 500 calories per slice, the slices are huge

normal pizza is like 280 per slice

fat fucks

>>42457481
yeah?

>>42457481
Jokes on you. I don't fuck anyone.

>>42456660
You will NEVER stopbeing skinnyfat till you work out 6+ hours a week for over 2 months and get enough protein

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>lose 80lbs
>used to want a gf
>girls are talking to me now
>don't want gf anymore

I ate so much bread today

>>42457720
>>girls are talking to me now
>>don't want gf anymore
You sonofabitch, i wish girls would talk to me.

>>42457720
>this has to be the worst deal in the history of trade deals

I know your feel.

>>42457720
Body stats? Height, sw, cw, bf%?

>>42455990

I always thought starvation mode is bullshit. I mean you have to be Ethiopa levels of starved for that shit, right?

>>42456702
Well no it does not, but you actually get to see the part which was buried in fat before.

>hit 311 last sunday
>take weight today
>315 again

This variation stuff can stop anytime please.

Also
>check full body mirror last night at work
>realize collar is no longer tight around my neck at all.
>actually can pull it up over my chin now
>realize my pants, while not exactly loose, are not as tight
>realize I feel lighter the other day and my general speed has increased a tiny bit

Progress feels good.

>>42457964
Still got a long way to go.

Reducing sodium and increasing fiber can help reduce day-to-day variations. But as long as you are doing everything right you shouldn't be worried about increases every so often.

Will I ever get comfortable enough for intimacy?
Any one here who lost enough fat but has loose skin and tiger stripes?

>>42454796
being fat is actually really easy until you get to your 40s or 50s

>>42458020
Have some stretch marks and a bit of loose skin around my stomach. Try dry brushing.

>>42456486
just get a whey isolate or powder. most of them will be 90% percent protein

>>42458001
Yeah 175 is a distant dream at this point. I'm kicking myself for not controlling myself years ago.It's been a few months and now the only daunting thing about this now feels like the time to get small again.

I don't take in too much sodium now, but it wouldn't hurt to increase my fiber. Thanks for the advice.

>>42458079
Time is all it takes senpai.
Next year is gonna get here one way or another.

>>42457042
Like he said, God bless America

Got to give a speech tomorrow. Wish I had lost a bit more weight so I wouldn't look like such a fat fuck presenting it. Benefit is that I think I've stressed so much I've burned extra calories

>>42458020
Kind of a big concern of mine.

Like yeah healthy weight with loose skin is better than just regular fat but you kind of cap out on progression at that point unless you invest in surgery to the best of my knowledge.

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>>42455052
you screwed up what could have been a good thread, fatty

not had a shit for over a week

CDC has a bretty good article on losing weight

What do my fellow fatties think?

https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/losing_weight/index.html

>>42458711
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>>42458731
seems like they read the sticky

>>42458711
magnesiummmmmmm

don't trust a fart

>>42458732
I think I have one of those brownies downstairs
I missed lunch today, good call

>>42458711
I envy you.
I had beans for dinner the past 2 days, with some other vegetables. And today I've had so much pain in my stomach I had to call sick. Loose stools, lots of undigested food and just feels awful.
Makes me more anxious about farting, and infinite wipes

>>42458754
It's either beans, or I used store-bought flavor enhances for the first time in a year or so. Used half a package of knorr meat stock or whatever for 4 portions (froze away 2, ate one on Tuesday, one yeasterday) - but I doubt it's some of the additions in that little thing. Rather the beans not acting well with me.

>>42455212
If you're serious, you have severe body dismorphia. Please seek professional help.

Feels good being a tall fatty, at least I got one thing going for me.

>>42458796
>I'm a fat sack of shit but at least I'm 6'2'' tee hee
whatever helps you sleep at night

Fuck sake, for some reason I can't get the £1 voucher off of the oppo website. Anyone else having trouble with it?

16 lbs away from being under 200, I can almost taste it

>>42458809
6'3.

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158 lb from 167 lbs

A month of IF and 3x fasted HIIT a week

About 2lbs a week

We go make it boys

>>42458904
SOCAL
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good job tho

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>>42458928
What's SoCal?

Thanks brah

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>>42459030
Roasties fuck off

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>>42455571
>what are push ups, sit ups, pull "ups" on the edge of an open door etc.

Or, just buy a GOOD pull up bar and in 2 months you'll be doing pull ups/chin ups and working also on your core.

Get a chain and do negative pull ups would also help.

All in all do push ups (knees on the ground or push up on some tabble/wall to start)

http://weighttraining.guide/exercises/push-up/
http://weighttraining.guide/exercises/knee-push-up/

>>42457200
That's impressive man. Sister has been on a cocktail of meds that do the same thing and she has to cut on a higher number than me while I don't have hunger pains like that and she does. She has iron will and lost a lot and looks really good now. Not sure I could do it honestly

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>>42459074
not you but pic related.

Better than nothing, not better than actually lifting

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>>42459036
Implying you wouldn't smash

>>42455888
>Don't try to do both. You'll get nowhere.

I'm eating less than 10k weekly and went from not one pull up to 2 full pull ups in one month.

Maybe i'd lose weight faster but as my objective is to do more pull ups (Would love to be able to do 13 for example) I'm training everyday a couple of pull ups. Can't be bad right?

>>42459105
You're a 5/10 at best

>>42459108
You are not building anywhere near as much muscle as you think you are.
A couple pull ups a day isn't enough to have a serious effect on your weight loss.

Keep it up though, just gotta keep shit in perspective.

Hey /fat/ I got some questions. I've been doing this whole weight loss thing and I think I got it down but I still don't understand the carbs thing. People say its alright just keep it under your calories people say don't eat bread you'll balloon and be foreverfat which is it?

Also I know the sticky says get some rest days between lifting but since I'm fat as hell does that still apply? Should I lift a bit or keep up cardio to keep slimming down?

And what's up with eggs? I've found that two hard boiled eggs with a black coffee will hold me over fairly good until lunch time, but people say the cholesterol in the yolk kills. Please help me

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What should be in the other two columns, /fat/?

I'm trying to do positive shit

I was thinking of doing a gym one (gone to gym 3 times in last week, etc)

>>42459211
>didn't midnight snack
>new lift PR last session
>BF% goal instead of weight goal
>non-family mentioned your weight loss
>drank a gallon of water between today and yesterday
>new pants already need a belt

I'm almost Bingo, on the last of both odd colums going down.

>>42459211
>jogged for five minutes without knees exploding
>dream about oats before bed
>dick appears longer
>mom says i'm just skin and bones (at bmi 27)
>can kinda see blood vessels in legs and arms

>>42459206
To lose weight just eat under your calories, carbs don't matter for that. However you got to get a lot of protein to build muscle & carbs are much less important; I eat about 1g per lb lean body mass & when I eat enough protein and less carbs I always feel so much better, have more energy & feel more full.

I eat 2 eggs a day and I'm fine. As long as you don't go crazy with it I think it's fine

I usually lift 3x a week; mwf and do cardio on off days. Keeps me on track better

Good luck anon

>>42459277
Thanks Anon
I'm gonna make it!

>>42459263
>mom says i'm just skin and bones (at bmi 27)

Yep, just had dinner with my mom the other day.

She knows I've been dieting for awhile and trying to get in better shape, but she thinks I'm annorexic or something now.

I showed her my food diary and let her scroll through it to reassure her that I'm still eating.

.

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AAARRRRGGGHHH.

I am getting nowhere.

I am fine with my diet. I am fine with IF/OMAD. I can't sleep for shit though. I know I'm plateauing because I'm not making that HGH/test for burning fat.

It's fucking time to step it up. I have to start exercising. That's it. My body is adapted. It's clear that I have excess energy and focus and it's being used for nothing. I got too /comfy/ with my sitting and starving and vaping. I'm going to start couch-to-5k now. The weather in Melbourne is starting to warm up now. Also...

>>42454867
Thanks for the tip. I was worried that lifting while OMAD would lose muscle.

I'm going to step this shit up now, brehs.

>>42459211
>"Have you lost weight?"
that's gotta be one, surely

maybe change non-diabetic to symptomless

maybe add a bit of variety, not incremental ones like 20%, 40% and 7+ days, 30+ days and so on

>>42459335
iktfb

after five days of consuming 4.5k+ (im on vacation), my mother said im not eating anything

good christ woman

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Hey guys I'm currently doing 5x5 SL at around a 600 calories deficit

I'm 6.2 and 175lbs, what do you think my bf% is and are my insertions fucked ? Thanks guys

>>42459374
Jesus christ, I'm 30 pounds heavier and look better than you at the same height.

Are you sure you're lifting?

>>42459374
>no body hair.
You have such feminine aesthetics.

>>42455893
Dont do that, chances are you can still gain or maintain strength on a cut.

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>>42459382
Yeah, maybe it was a bad picture or my test is low

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>>42455179
>>42455291
3180
I'm just asking because sometimes all I will eat is lunch

>>42456015
Im that gorilla dick nigga, i make dyke pussy wet

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Feel free to improve. Just wanted to post it before going to bed

>>42455990

this, as long as you aren't sub 10%bf (i made that number up) your body burns mostly fat, that's what it's there for.

>parents drink nothing but coffee
>both overweight
is the caffeine = appetite supressant a placebo?

>>42459659
If it isn't black, it doesn't count.

Black coffee makes me poo.

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>>42459576
>8/25
Only 5 weeks into CICO.

>>42456168
this when I was younger I basically switched from comfort eating to starving myself and lost shitloads sitting on my ass all summer

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My body looks like shit from loose skin and stretch marks and i still got a way to go before being at a good bmi

>>42459747
what do you want to hear? that you should remain a lard ass?

>>42455485
Thanks man, your story gave me a bit of needed hope

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>>42459576
Started in April and I got a bingo :)

My next physical is in January and I should get 6 (hopefully 7) more spots, giving me 6 bingos

It might even be 8 if my weight loss increases my testosterone levels as my doctor thinks may happen. That would just leave tracking 1+ year left

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>>42459758
just felt like venting i guess

>>42456605
>only poop once every few days
>always tiny
>still eating somewhat regularly
Where is the food going?

>>42459886
food is less dense than you think
once all the air and water is removed, it's a fraction of the volume it was when it went it

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Wew, finally started losing weight.
Down from 231lbs to 217lbs.
Going to uni soon and get to use their awesome gym for very little.
Which routine would you suggest starting with? I was thinking SL5x5, but there's a lack of accessory work.
What should I add in? dips? chinups? whatelse?

>eat 100 cal over my 1000 mark
>almost gain a pound

Is my metabolism working properly? I feel like it's slowed down immensely and it's stressing me out.

I was growing a weight loss beard for the first 6months of my diet, and saw the most improvement

then I shaved and I've been kind of stagnate.

Should I grow another ridiculous beard while cutting again?

It looked shitty 2-4 months in, but after about 6 it was starting to look reallllllllll good.

>>42459955
don't micro manage
just get into a routine and stop thinking about it
the months will soon tumble off the calendar

>>42459972
What the fuck is up with your text formatting anon?
It just looks repulsive to the eye.
Either way, you mean like not cutting your hair while entering cocoon mode, but with facial hair?

I never really saw a point to that, but if it helps motivate you, go for it I guess.

Guys I was a bad boy I had popcorn and a bunch of candy OH GOD WHY DID I DO IT

>>42460017
Yeah, like Samson, but with a beard.

>>42459794
I believe in you anon. Keep going and you'll make it.

>>42459976
>stop thinking
Do people really do this?

>>42460026
Cause your self control is garbage?
Just work on it and don't let this cheat cause you to give up on your lifestyle change.
You'll make it eventually.

>>42460036
Go for it then mate, would you mind giving me some advice then?
My post: >>42459941

>>42460054
yeah
the first 8 months just sailed by for me
the closer I get to my goal, the more I'm thinking about it

>>42459941
>>42460063
I don't have a workout routine, but I went from 250 to 200 just dieting and doing bodyweight stuff.

Pull ups, chin ups, push ups, planks.

>>42460026
did you even put up a fight or was it an immediate surrender?

I have those days where one thing is on my mind and will not relent. I spend all day wrestling with the idea of how to justify it to myself.
And other days where I don't even bother trying to resist and immediately buckle.

As long as you have more good days than bad, it'll balance out.

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>>42460117
Thing is I was pretty /fit/ back in 2012 after I'd been lurking here for a year or two. Why the fuck didn't I keep lifting?

>>42460213
yeah, I'm a relapser too, I was 280 to 190 last time I lost weight.

>6'2
>235 lbs

Am I qualified to post in /fat/?

>>42460218
I made it to 180lbs 10% bf and got complacent like a fag.
I wont make that mistake again, gotta keep pushing, we'll make it bro.

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This is like 2/3 years of steady weight loss with several plateaus.
Does anybody have any idea what bf % I am now? The machine at the gym said i'm around 15% but I think I'm more.
5'8
13st

>>42460370
Didnt know that slenderman was fat.

>>42456504
I had a chocolate croissant with 210 calories after my meal.

Still on track in terms of Calories but feeling a bit bad. First time I had junk food in a while, but I needed a dessert. It won't happen again /fat/her

>>42460231
I'm about the same so yea you're fat enough.

Hey fat. What do you think of leangains? I'm already doing 20:5 IF with non processed foods, I can't find a definite guide for it.

Anybody else really weak after losing weight without lifting?

I started lifting 5 months ago and I'm only now just barely getting into untrained category on symmetric strength

>>42459955
water weight. a pint of water weighs over a pound.

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>>42456486
priemer protien or aitkin protein shakes... 160 cal, i believe 16grams of protein

>>42460483
That's because you lose muscle mass too.

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How do I stop myself from craving candy?
I always have to have some after dinner until my belly feels "full"

>>42460826
have a piece of fruit instead. work on cutting all added sugar out of your diet and you eventually wont crave it at all.

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>>42460866
BUT I NEED TO FILL FULL

>>42460826
Every time you know youve eaten enough but crave more eat a hard boiled egg.

Also dont keep candy in your house if you can help it.

>>42460880
>Also dont keep candy in your house if you can help it.
my mother keeps buying it

>>42460826
>until i feel full
how big is the amount needed?

>>42460894
tell her to stop buying them? or she also fat lazy shit

I need help /dat/, I wanna go to the gym and build some muscle. I'm 182 cm and weight 148 kg. I'm on IF.

I was going to the gym a few months ago, three times per week, but fucked my knee with squats. I was doing SS. Is there any other plan I can do realistically? Could someone post a workout plan where I wouldn't have to worry too much about my joints, at least before I lose the first 20 to 30 kg?

>weigh myself every day, same circumstances each time (immediately after waking, before eating/drinking, after peeing)
>been stalling at 160 for a week and a half
>today I weighed in at 157/156.5

A-am I making it, /fat/?

>>42460896
a whole big cup of Ben & Jerries

>>42460873
Apple cider vinegar.
Doesn't taste good, so drink like 20 ml, then a little bit of water. Wait 15 minutes or so and tell how you feel now.

Recommended to do it before a meal, or just in the morning. Us fat fucks need to help the gut bacteria.

>>42460933
that's terrible, i am a skinnyfat but i know the feeling of craves, but you really just need to control it
use your rage to overcome it

>>42460896
Eat as many eggs as you want anon, just dont put anything on them with the exception for hot sauce.

Your body will eventually realize crying for sweets results in eggs and will stop craving sugar. Just keep at it for a few weeks with no cheat days, those basically reset the cravings.

>>42460949
all that acid will burn your mouth, teeth, pharinx over time and possibly lungs if you inhale by mistake

>>42460915
How'd you fuck your knee with squats?
Sounds like improper form.

>>42460919
Why are you weighing yourself erry day? I tend to aim for thursday mornings. Every day and you're only catching fluctuations right?

>>42457395
Whole foods slices.
500 for peperonni
400 for just cheese

Then again the slices are huge so it makes sense.

>>42460989
Wut? It does hurt a little back in my throat, and I generally avoid getting it on the teeth. It feels good in my stomach though. Like a sense of comfort as it makes it sourer down there.
I have kefir for my breakfast for those teeth gains though.

>>42461046
stomach is made to withstand acid stuff, while your esophagus and other upper structures arent made for. ever heard of GERD? you basically doing the same but to all the area above the stomach
>teeth gains
i dont have solid knowledge about teeth but i doubt they work that way

>>42461018
>Why are you weighing yourself erry day? I tend to aim for thursday mornings. Every day and you're only catching fluctuations right?

Idk, I do it just because it takes like 30 seconds and I like to see how I'm doing. I try to keep everything ceteris paribus (I eat roughly the same thing every day, weigh myself at the same time, etc.), and I understand there's still gonna be fluctuations, I just hope to minimize them. I guess it might be healthier to weigh myself weekly, but I like to see them numbers go down.

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I'm getting vertical sleeve in about a month, I can't wait /bros/

I can go without food fine, but as soon as I have a few bites of anything... some hormone activates and I can't stop feeling hungry, like primal level hunger. I've been able to maintain a month but the hunger eventually breaks me.

It takes about 8 hours for the hunger to stop after it starts, doc suspects since my stomach is so large the stomach is creating the hormones when it starts taking in food.

I'm trying to motivate myself to get back on track again but I have maintain a liquid diet at least 10 days before till the surgery date which hasn't been set yet. I just don't want to break in the middle of keeping to it.

>>42461018
not him but I hope they're fluctuations
I was dehydrated as shit this morning (looking not terrible in the awful light in my early morning grogginess) and I'm still 0.8lbs heavier than last week

it has been a crappy week, and I haven't shit for a while, but I shouldn't have put on weight

>>42461097
It probably is the shit desu.
You're supposed to weigh yourself fully evacuated.

>>42461117
I don't choose when to dump my bowels senpai
might look into colonic irrigation though

I know it doesn't mean a damn thing in the grand scheme of things, but I'm 3.8lbs from goal, so I'm looking for corners to cut

>>42460894
you would be amazed what just cutting sugar will do for your weight. I guarantee if you just stop grazing candy and snacks your mom buys, you'll lose 20 pounds on accident in a few months.

I remember when I was 18, I sopped eating that shit and switched to eating 2-3 tomato sandwiches a day and got down to like 155 with easy jogging cardio.

>>42461148
>colonic irrigation
just drink more and eat vegetables, dont do weird fag practices

Today I have started a psmf where I eat only chicken. Is there a problem with frozen chicken in terms of fat loss?

>>42461069
>GERD
I've heart about it, but I didn't assume the bad part about it was the minor pain back in the throat, but rather that the stomach acid made it to the top.
But I guess you have a point about the acid. Would be funny if that was the cause of my tight throat and not anxiety that has flared up the past year or so.

>>42461189
>dont do weird fag practices
like IF?

there's touted benefits to flushing out your system
and I'm open to try anything once
really, really doubt I'd make a habit out of it

Is intermittent fasting worth it? Are there any negative effects?

>>42461204
well depends since how long you have been doing it. also very hot drinks can do more damage than you think (if you drink tea or something)
you having problems swallowing stuff? feeling pain as if it got stuck half way? dont wanna scare you but those things are ALL red flags that should make you go to a doctor asap. since you are most likely very young you will recover fast but better safe than sorry

Which app you boys use for calorie counting? I used mfp in the past (like 6 years ago) but looking at it now it seems shit. really want to have it as simple and quick as possible without any of the bloat around it

>>42461377
It's what I'm using at the moment, I've heard good things about both my daily plate and fit day though.

>>42461377
6 years and you are still fat? wow lol

>>42461377
eat until you feel weak and adjust from there you calory counting fat shit

>>42461232
Been drinking it on and off for about 6-7 months I think. I don't drink too hot drinks, I think. I have a rather low sense of pain in my mouth so usually I get my coffee to be lukewarm and chug it.
Anyhow, yes, I have problems swallowing stuff, and it does feel like there's something stuck there. Occasionally, I can cough up a hard piece of snotlike structure and spit it out. But my doctor thinks it's just anxiety causing it due to a long in and out of therapy and long term issues that's getting worse. Also had ultrasound done which showed no issues in whatever organ is in the throat.
I do intend to see a doctor about my throat very soon, since I have gotten a lump above my adams apple, and if I push on the organ, it does feel better when it's off balance (that I push it a few mm to either side and hold it).

The swallowing part feels more that it's tight and if I drink something it goes smoothly, but I can't swallow pills, not even gelatin ones without water since it feels as if they are just stuck somewhere back in my throat too deep to take out, but not deep enough to enter my stomach.

>>42461228
Yes.
Very worth it.
As for negative effects, an occasional dip in energy levels.

>>42461392
fat again. dropped lots of weight there and was doing sports almost everyday, moved and had a complete switch with lots of drinking and eating lots of shit.

started lifting 8 months ago and didn't miss a day with that, figure it's time i adjust my eating habits to that level. only planning on tracking for max a month, just to get a bearing on it, so that's why i don't give a fuck about any of the build in diet plans or things like that

>>42455219
Have a grilled chicken caesar salad with vinaigrette instead of ranch/mayo.
Boom, 400kcal Maccas run.

>>42459565
If you know your tdee, then you have an estimate of your lean body mass. You should eat about 1g of protein per lb of lean body mass.

>Wanting to do an extreme cut
>But is worried about losing muscle mass
Not gonna work. Your bare minimum calories for the day should include that protein intake.

My inexact numbers were ~160lbs of lean body mass, so I shoot for 160g of protein a day. If you manage that efficiently, you can do it within 1500 calories, but you also need some other nutrients in a day so that you don't shit yourself.

>>42455219
>>42461501
Actually, looks like 213 w/o dressing, probably 250 with a light vinaigrette.
Maybe 300 with sweet chilli.

213kcal for nearly 30g protein is pretty top stuff.

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>>42461569

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How to lose the last bit of belly fat/loose skin?

>>42461601
Stop eating so much.
Exercise more.

>>42461608
you dont get it... i already lost so much
im happy with my body
but my belly still has some fat and loose skin

>>42461435
ultrasounds is not really of any use for that, even if from the inside you can just see if something is very wrong. imo you would need a gastroscopy to have a better look. if you feel it stuck that high then yeah it's unlikely that it's about esophagus
single pills are hard to swallow for anyone, no shit about anxiety, everyone adds water
>coughing up hard snot
dude how many shits do you have going on? get a hold of your health asap or it will become problematic

>>42461620
How much have you lost?

If it's a significant amount it may be loose skin, and if you're not producing significant amounts of collagen that will never heal.

If it's just a small bit of extra skin, then start building your core muscles like mad, if it's a gunt flap, then surgery.

If it's pudgy then you have unlucky fat distribution/muscle insertion and need to get leaner.

>>42461620
Surgery

is frozen meat okay to eat if it's zero carb?

>>42461635
It sounds worse then it is probably.
It's mostly the tight throat and fear of throwing up - anxiety in general. The organ itself works fine I suppose. It's the lump and a fear of having something that causes me to visit the doctor. That there has to be some external solution I can take a magical pill for and somehow my life will fix itself due to sheer virtue.
Rationally, I know it's not like that, but it's more or less my only reason for keep on pushing since every other aspect of my life / health is not at all close to where it should be for me to be at ease.
Solutions is in short actively doing things that hurt because some day in the future you will be at ease. Except you will never know when or if that day comes, and if you're still in pain, you're doing it wrong or not doing it hard enough.

It's a slow race, and I recently learned the rules. Now I'm catching up to the front.

>>42461675
Kek
Defrost it first mate.
Make sure to bake it rather than fry it.

>>42461620
is it just when you sit down?

I'm kinda in the same boat, I've zero muscle mass on me, poking ribs and hips but still quite a belly. My mums fancy scales says I'm 16.6%bf, and an online calculator says roughly that too.
There is some loose skin there, but mostly still chub

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When can i stop?
6'3, <210, 20%bf
190? 180?

Let's say I do a 500 cal deficit and cardio that burns 200 cal, why not eat -700 instead? I don't get the point of cardio yet.

>>42461743
Get to 190, if you're still interested in going leaner, go 180, repeat until you're not fat and then start building serious muscle.

>>42461780
Lazy fuck, you're never gonna make it.

>>42455052
you're a stupid fat fuck, jesus christ, how do you fit on a toilet?

>>42461827
Good to know you have nothing to say.

@apple

257

I can't weigh in tomorrow so doing it today............

>>42461857
Enjoy staying a fat sack of shit forever buddy.

>>42461898
You can stop shitposting anytime.

>>42461945
Too bad you can't stop being fat and lazy.

>burger autism hour
>he thinks insulting people will help

What's /fat/ view on boiled potatoes?

Am I drinking too much water? I always have to pee now.

I don't keep track, but I'd estimate I'm drinking between 1 or 2 gallons of water a day. I had to get up 2x last night to piss, and then again immediately in the morning when my alarm went off.

And when I'm drinking beer, sometimes I'll have to piss before I'm even finished with the beer, which is bad because I'd rather have it sync up with when I need another beer.

>>42462046
Idiots that prefer to starve themselves than do a bit of exercise need to get bullied and insulted.

>>42462133
Very high in carbs and energy.

Stick to green veg.

>>42462212
I'm going for keto just to lose my weight and then regain it all back. Potatoes have like 75 kcal.

What do you do in your moments of doubt?

I got fat for a reason. I've managed to keep my overeating in check for a while, but the underlying cause still eludes me.

>>42462314
stay away from the kitchen or else ill binge regardless of what the problem is

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>>42462286
>potatoes
>keto

>>42462286
100g of potato has 77kcal.

A meal of plain boiled potatoes has 300 odd kcal.

A meal of green fibrous vegetables has half of that.

>asymetric abs
fuuuuuuck. can't win 'em all

>>42462350
I meant that i'm not going for keto
>>42462387
>Potatoes, boiled (without skin), flesh only 108 calories
First result if i google "boiled potatoes kcal".
>veggies
Sure, i have them too.

>>42462133
I eat sweet pototaoes for the Vitamin A (they are lodead with it).

Eat it with the skin on and you get fiber.

Good carb source, and very low on the GI and won't raise insulin as much as, say, white rice.

Everyone lets shame the privileged for people for being born fit. This woman eats paid to write about it under healthy living on a mom blog.

>http://thestir.cafemom.com/healthy_living/206188/fit_mom_problematic

>>42457936
yep. that being said it's very possible to permanently fuck up your metabolism with extreme dieting and exercise. most people will never have to worry about either of these things tho.

>>42462638
>Body image coach.
Holy fuck women are pathetic.

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>>42462660
>tfw crash dieted and lost/gained hundreds of pounds over the years
how serious is it?

>>42462672
women are social creatures, they care for nothing or nobody if doing so would make them look better to the group

>>42462689
But, they pay a fucking "body image coach" to tell them not to care about maintaining their body.

For the exact same cash they could pay for a PT.

>>42462133
They're great if you're missing a lot of starch in your diet and need something that won't fill you up too much. But, considering where we are, that isn't likely.

>>42462700
but it's how they FEEL
competency and intelligence is secondary to feelings

>>42462638
kinda envy those who just stop caring about themselves, or at least claim to
but I know that was me once, and you never 'really' stop caring.
Every time you see some chad walking with his shirt off in the sun, you're reminded of your own failures. It's inescapable.
I might set the bar low, but I beat out everyone who throws the bar away.

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>>42462212
>Very high in carbs and energy.

No they aren't. Pastries and and candy are very high in carbs and energy.
Also they're the most filling food on the planet.

>>42461018
>How'd you fuck your knee with squats?
>Sounds like improper form.

I was actually asking at the gym if my form was okay, and everyone said it was okay, but that I'll fuck my knees by squating while so heavy. Same way they told me to stop running and bike instead.

So now, after my knee problem few months back, I want to start again, but I wanna know how /fat/ trains - any routines you guys are doing that won't turn my joints to shit more than my shitty lifestyle already did?

pay day tomorrow
after 2 weeks of eating like a peasant (I haven't learned how to budget for monthly wages yet)

I'm gonna try not to go too mental with the shopping, but god almighty am I sick of rice and frozen chicken.

>>42456579
Small snacks are just giving you blood sugar spikes that will make you more and more hungry and less likely to burn off fat (you'll burn ingested carbs first).
Carbs aren't literally hitler but intermittent fasting is great because you are far more balanced and just have on spike during the day.
Metabolism won't slow down anon, that isn't a thing with IF (which is well researched) and actually if you wake up fasted you produce HGH for a few hours and will actually burn more fat if you do cardio, so lifting and cardio gains in the morning eating at night.

>>42461620
the belly is the last thing to go. Think about it, what is surrounding all your vital organs and keeping them warm?

>>42458418
Reaching your natty potential takes years, and once you get even close to it loose skin shouldn't be that much of a concern.
It's far better than most cosmetic shit because people respect a person who has lost weight and became fit, no shame in surgery though anon we all have our insecurities.

>>42456019
Newfags please leave

>>42462891
Yeah, many foods are high in carbs and energy. Potato is like 90% carbs. They aren't super high cal, but they are if you are comparing them to green vegetables like that guy was.

>>42461620
>fat and loose skin

Protip: loose skin often isn't that loose, it's actually skin with fat still on it. Keep cutting and it should improve.

>>42459332
Carbs are not filling, if you have trouble staying satiated on your diet cut out carbs and fill it with fat, protein, or fiber.
Eat bread if you love it but there are far more filling things out there for less calories with more nutrients.
Also look up cholesterol studies, we are now not sure if dietary cholesterol affects people anymore, especially people who exercise.

>>42461780
you can indeed lose weight sitting on your ass.

Exercise speeds things up and makes it harder to fuck up going way over your calorie limit.

Lost 13 pounds in the past 11 days. I estimate that about 4 of those pounds are water weight, meaning I've burned around 10 pounds of fat.

I'm 1/5th of the way to my goal. 44 days left

>>42461780
To lose weight you need to eat under your TDEE.

To get healthy you need to exercise.

You are fat ,so you aren't healthy. HAES is bullshit. Losing weight is great, but you should also be using this time to get in shape.

Also consider lifting to build muscle, if you want to have a shot at actually looking good you'll need muscle to help fill out loose skin.

>>42459886
This happened to me when i started losing weight, don't worry senpai

>>42464288
>10 pounds in 11 days
That seems a bit unhealthy.

>>42454867
>protein cycling forces the body to use up useless protein first
>useless protein
>use protein first
What? What. Mate, what. Do you know nothing about the human body?

>>42461191
For fat loss no.
Frozen chicken breasts have like no fat though (which is good for psmf but not your body) and not a great amount of nutrition.
At least supplement with vitamins anon.

>>42464288
65 pounds in 44 days is pushing it, even for the morbidly obese
why the rush? better to see steady progress

>>42464327
I burn 2000+ calories a day working out. My body burns 2100 naturally per day. So total I'm burning 4100+ calories a day. I'm only eating around 1000 or so. Meaning that every day I'm losing a bit less than a pound.

My stomach is starting to feel very loose, the fat there is now mushy and squishy (actually kind of odd to feel it). I'm getting a hell of a lot stronger as time goes on, meaning I can work out harder and burn even more.

>>42464364
No, my goal is 50 pounds. I'm burning a bit less than a pound a day, meaning 2 months should do it. I've already been going for 11 days.

>>42464380
That's going to slow down in time, dude. Just be prepared for that.

>>42461635
>single pills are hard to swallow for anyone, no shit about anxiety, everyone adds water
>not being able to swallow a fistful of pills dry
I actually have a tight throat like anon because of anxiety but apparently my throat opens up like a cheap whore when pills are involved,

>>42464411
No, it will accellerate. The workouts that were killing me last week have now become rather easy. I'm stepping up the speed and difficulty starting next week, meaning I'll be burning even more.

>>42462314
Fix your relationship with food.
Your parents probably gave you snacks when you were crying, they fed you when you were happy, sad, anxious, etc.
Food is used as a drug for a lot of people, you associate it with every feeling, even boredom.
Break those habits, gain new associations, listen to music when you're sad, chew gum when your anxious, etc.

>>42464444
>I'm stepping up the speed and difficulty starting next week, meaning I'll be burning even more.
Losing weight is not about workout intensity but eating habits. If you lose weight fast then you'll regain even faster. Besides eating 1000 kcal is not healthy.

>>42464444
Sure it will. You're the only one who will not experience any stalling or slowdown in weight loss as you get closer to your goal.

>>42464464
Let me redpill you on food

Your body has a natural regulation system for calories in, calories out. You eat when you're hungry until you're full, then you stop. As long as you're working out every day, your body won't be in "winter mode", meaning it will be trying to keep you slim and active.

This is a natural feedback loop in your brain. But this loop is short circuited by sugar. Your body ALWAYS wants sugar, whether you're hungry or not. Once you start eating it, you only want more of it.

The secret to maintaining a healthy low-effort diet is simply to cut out all artificial sugars.
that means
>no donuts
>no soft drinks
>no cake
Also, stay away from highly processed foods (such as bacon) as these are linked to cancer

If you manage to cut out sugar from your diet, eventually your sugar cravings will disappear, and you'll be able to live a normal human life with your body regulating it's own weight effortlessly

>>42464513
we're not talking about the physiology

>>42464488
No, losing weight is a raw calculation
>(Calories in) - (Calories out)

It really is that simple. You can eat a lot and exercise a lot, or exercise very little and also eat very little. It's all about the net difference

>>42464513
I cut out donuts, soda, candy, cookies, cake, all that shit a long time ago and while I never want any of that garbage, I can't stop eating fast food. Why

>>42464513
Talking about psychological reasons to eat food m8, most people won't become obese just because of sugar.
Sugar does cause insulin spikes which make people hungrier than they should be.
Relying on fullness will not work for the vast majority of people, the body doesn't know exactly when maintenance happens.
That is not backed up by science and if we look at how animals evolve they eat more than they need because tomorrow they might not have food.
Evolutionary biology (which isn't always spot on) doesn't happen because the universe wants you to be healthy or live long, it wants you to get through puberty and fuck.
We are humans and should look past that, we want to live long and be healthy doing it.

Also look at some studies about nitrates.
Still not too convinced but recent studies are saying they might not be nearly as bad as we thought.

>>42464526
FAR more complicated than that, enzymes and shit m8.
CICO is good for fatasses because it just werks, but it's not the whole picture.
Hormones and enzymes play a roll in digestion and the efficiency of storing/burning energy.

>>42464587
Psychological addiction OR you are hungry.
Eat more satiating foods anon, eat greens.

new thread

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>>42464627
Will add that the beauty of CICO is that if you eat less than your TDEE you will lose weight, and if the TDEE is off just eat less.
This doesn't mean however that there aren't many factors on how you lose the weight (fat or muscle? what type of fat?) and the exact amounts of weight.
Almost everyone's weight loss slows down, and don't go spouting "muh physics" because you are not a simple engine.
Leptin, test, cortisol, estrogen, many things affect weight loss rates and it's out of the ordinary to have an exact linear relationship between CICO and weightloss over a period of time because hormones change.

>>42459374
T H I C C