/fat/ - Hungry Edition

First, we are all gonna make it.

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>been on a plateau
>go on a binge eat for one night until my gut is about to burst
>800calories in ice cream alone
>usually don't sleep because diet keeps me up
>that night i sleep for 9 hours straight
>weight starts to melt off again
why is this?

>>42430899
Second, something's gotta give

Fatmp

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>>42430924
If you were eating far below tier TDEE, eating at or above can supposedly Kickstart loss again.

I had three TDEE "cheat" days (didn't care about macros) and when I got back to the gym to weigh in I lost a kilo. And then I lost another the next day.

I may work in a TDEE weekend monthly or every other month, if it's that effective.


But try not to binge in the future.

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There is no better feeling in the world than when people you haven't seen in a while literally gasp at your weight loss. Esp when it's in front of your fat manager who has yet to lose any weight because "counting calories doesn't work". IM A GOD AMONG MEN.

>>42431026
I hear that. A coworker said I looked thinner yesterday and asked me for advice about weight loss.

I'm living overseas right now, so I'm very excited to meet my family again after dropping 100lbs (about 35 down so far).

>go WFPB vegan
>eat literally anything I want and get cut

Why haven't you fat fucks stopped eating meat and animal products?

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I've put on a few lbs this week

I don't know what it was, what in my meals might have caused this but I feel like death right now, why................

I just wish I didn't fucking have such disgusting neck fat. Why are gut and neck the last bits of fat to go?

I keep. fucking. binging.

I can't decide if I'm weak or pushing myself too hard.
Could try upping calories but that would add weeks. It's better than losing everything binge eating I suppose.
Just need to get over that mental hurdle.

Enjoy the rapid loss while it lasts lads. The final push is brutal.

>>42431052
>literally anything I want

I know this is bait, but the idea that vegan and vegetarian diets area automatically healthy is total bullshit. They often are healthier because they also cause people to be mindful about food, but that's not the same thing.

>>42431112
>I know this is bait
there goes any possibility of a civil discussion
well done

>>42431112
fruits, vegetables, beans, whole grains

If you're eating high fiber whole foods you can eat whatever the fuck you want and it will be healthier than eating meat and cheese.

I NEED TO CONFESS.

I ate:
- 1 Whole Pizza
- 3 cans of coke
- Pack of cookies.

I was 310. I dropped to 260 and I have been stuck.

Insult me.

Motivate me.

>>42431142
think about why you ate all that food
and what can you do differently next time

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>>42431142
Throw away all the shitty junk food in your house right now as punishment i don't even care if you just bought it get rid of it and go on a walk

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>>42431128
>eat whatever the fuck you want

Yeah, because CICO is meaningless. This isn't a thread about health, its about weight loss. You don't lose weight eating above your TDEE. You aren't eating whatever your want if your diet is severely restricted by both food source and calories.

If you want a serious discussion, speak seriously.

>>42431180
Go eat a WFPB vegan diet with at least 80g of fiber and tell me how many calories you got in that day.

What are some nice high protein breakfast foods, need to burn this fat

>>42431185
>WFPB

If you are actually trying to have a discussion, explain your terms. You haven't said what that acronym even is, or what your diet is like. You haven't TOLD us anything.

>>42431166
how will that help?
there'll always be easily accessible food available, he can't hide from it for the rest of his life

>>42431180
from a purely physical standpoint you are correct
but eating shit food makes you feel like shit
feeling like shit will impact your mood and your weight loss efforts

the mechanism of weight loss is simple, but the effort and strategy can be incredibly complex

>>42431204
Peanut butter has decent protein.

Yogurt can be good.

Eggs.

Any breakfast meat, obviously, though most are high in fat.

>>42431207
WFPB = Whole Food Plant Based

Fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, seeds, minimally processed foods like peanut butter, guacamole, whole grain/sprouted bread.

It's difficult to get under 80g of fiber a day on this diet. It's extremely filling. Therefore you can eat whatever the fuck you want.

I ate 1500 calories today and am stuffed.

>>42431217
I agree with that and I never said otherwise, but this anon saying they eat "literally anything I want" triggered me.

Of course eating good food is good for you. Eating whatever you want isn't the same thing.

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>>42431096
it's genetics. i've noticed some fat peoples double chins completely go away not even half way to their weight goal.
i was recently looking at pictures of when i was a kid and realized i've had a baby double chin basically all my life. i'm going to have to go fully thin mode to get rid of mine.

>>42431204
Black coffee is now your breakfast.

>>42431232

Fuck man, this is really discouraging. What happens if I'm aushwitz mode and I still have a shitty double chin?

>>42431110
>>42430924
Why don't you guys just eat clean when you cheat? Eat more of whatever you want but with clean food.

>>42431204
Unfalvored non-fat Greek yogurt with a scoop of when and some berries thrown in is what I usually do. Tasty, nutritious, and filling as it weighs like half a pound. It's my go to breakfast.

>>42431096
Could be posture.

>>42431246
People cheat for different reasons. Having a clean cheat would do nothing for me.

I eat food that I normally wouldn't (carbs, fried foods) but stay at TDEE.

For some people, staying at TDEE would defeat the point of cheating.

Everyone's in this for different reasons ,and finds different parts difficult.

I'm at 197 down from 206, I want to get to 185 before I start cutting. Good to know I'm almost halfway there. I have my daily diet down to routine now

>Wake up at 10, eat yogurt and coffee
>Go to gym at 12, do cardio, lift
>Come home, whey + skim milk, keeps me full till 7 or so
>Drink some coffee at 3
>Eat clean dinner, usually chicken and some veggies plus a little rice
>Eat some yogurt before bed

It took me a while to get to this but this is huge for me. I'd always be snacking but doing it for a week has this completely second nature to me now.

Almost halfway there lads, we're gonna make it

When will I look fucking shredded ;_;
180 cm, male, 86 kg down from 97.

>>42431275

*before i stop cutting

>>42431246
I don't cheat, I binge.
My body is fighting starvation. In this state I go for the highest carb shit I can get my hands on.
Some chicken that takes 20 minutes to prepare, or that box of cookies that's been in the cupboard for months.. no contest.

I'm devising a counter strategy because this has been going on for far too damn long.

>work from 2 to midnight everyday
>class from 6 am to 1:45
>gym from 1am to 2
>weekends are party central, about to join a frat I think

Fucking hell lads, if it wasn't for the booze I'd never make it.

>TFW about to be a freshman at 22 but you've got enough money saved up to pay for college
>first person in my family to go to college


Feels okay man.

Trying to cut from 235 to 185. I'm 6'4".

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>>42431275
>I'm at 197 down from 206, I want to get to 185 before I start cutting.
>before I start cutting

>>42431142
you're never gonna make it

>>42430780
I haven't eaten in 48 hrs. I get a little hungry, but nothing bad.
In order to get from 242 to 200 by new years I have to hit 238 by the end of the week.
I feel its really important to keep up with my biweekly goal, even if that means not eating for a couple days.

How long have you guys been dieting? I was only skinny fat and it took me 6 months to get down to about 10%.

>>42430899
Gonna make it
>>42430924
Never, ever gonna make it
>>42431026
Gonna make it
>>42431052
Might make it
>>42431053
Could make it
>>42431110
Never gonna make it
>>42431142
Never, ever, ever gonna make it. Fat fuck.
>>42431275
Gonna make it
>>42431278
Gonna make it
>>42431293
Unsure if you will make it

>>42431334
never gonna make it

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>>42431341

>>42431224
Thank you for actually explaining what you are talking about and why it works for you.

If I were on that diet, I'd rely too heavily on peanut butter because I love it. I don't think it would work for me.

But please stop telling people "you can eat whatever you want" when the whole point of the diet is that it is restricted to a small pool of foods.

>>42431328
I started at around 240 in late April. I'm at 198 now.

>>42431334
>Never, ever gonna make it

>lost 80lbs and have been lifting since 09
ok DYEL

>>42431349
>But please stop telling people "you can eat whatever you want" when the whole point of the diet is that it is restricted to a small pool of foods.

Nope, I'll keep saying it because it's true for fatties. You won't attempt it because you think you'll eat too much peanut butter? You can do that now...

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>>42431358
you literally can't eat whatever you want because your fucking diet literally restricts you to eat certain foods

jesus christ does being vegan rot your brain this much?

>>42431358
Yes, but I don't because I actually can eat whatever I want in moderation.

On your diet I very clearly couldn't, because it's so restricted.

>>42431378
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.

If you're on a WFPB vegan diet the fiber will severely restrict your calorie intake. This is an extremely healthy diet that will simultaneously force you to restrict your calorie intake.

>>42431392
>in moderation

You mean be hungry all the time? I'm never hungry only eating plant foods. I have to force myself to eat enough food everyday.

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>>42431401
>on diet that restricts you to eat only certain foods

>can eat whatever you want

pick one

>>42431401
This was my day today:

Breakfast: Black coffee

Lunch: Two peanut butter and frozen berry sandwiches on whole grain bread. 3 bananas

Dinner. A can of beans, 500 calories of white rice (burrito bowl), and a giant plate of assorted vegetables with herbs and spices

I usually eat a ton of sweet potatoes but I didn't eat any today.

>>42431413
I don't want to eat animal products, therefore I'm eating whatever I want.

Did you miss the vegan part of my post?

>>42431414
I forgot. I also had an apple at dinnertime

>>42431401
If you're diet consists of only whole plant based foods

And your diet is calorie restricted

But definition you are not eating whatever your want

Because your diet is restricted by those factors.

>moderation makes you hungry

See, I'm doing what works for me. I'm not hungry all the time. If I were, I would be falling because I would be eating more then I'd planned to. This is what I meant earlier when I talked about how your diet works for you and wouldn't work for me.

>>42431417
If you want to eat your diet, and you eat whatever you want, that's great.

But we don't all want to eat like you do. Your diet working for you because you like it is good, that doesn't mean it contains what I want to eat.

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>>42431417
i know this is bait at this point but you are actually retarded

>eat whatever you want!
>except for almost everything!

>>42431433
>And your diet is calorie restricted

I'm not purposely restricting my calories. I'm eating whole, high fiber, nutrient-dense plant foods until I'm stuffed.

This would be an extremely effective lifestyle for fatties. If you aren't a fatty then fuck off. If you are a fatty then shut the fuck up and try this. The weight will melt off and you will feel much healthier and satiated all the time.

>>42431435
Yes, restrict yourself to the healthiest foods on the planet and you will lose weight. BIG SHOCK!!!!

>>42431455
>Yes, restrict yourself to the healthiest foods on the planet and you will lose weight

no shit retard, restricting yourself to a diet is literally the opposite of eating whatever you want

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I'm always low on protein. Does anyone have any good meat dishes with low carbs I could try?

>>42431469
This board attracts all the brainlets for some reason.

You can eat whatever you want IF you stick to a WFPB diet. Is English not your first language? I thought I clearly established this parameter.

>>42431482
Fuckin cook some chicken breasts, sirloin steaks. Eat a pound of cold cut turkey tf do you mean

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>>42431485
not sure why im still biting

>You can eat whatever you want IF you stick to a WFPB diet

that is literally the opposite of eating whatever you want, you fucking autist, i know being vegan already fucks up your physical state but I didn't realize it fucked up your mind this badly

>>42431511
Stop biting. I was the other guy bothering to and it's very clear he isn't trying to help anyone.

>>42431482
>I'm always low on protein

I guarantee you aren't. Protein requirements are greatly exaggerated.

>>42431511
le ebin troll

Any lurking fatties should do research on WFPB diets. Science is starting to prove that this is by far the healthiest diet for human consumption. You'll lose tons of weight without even trying.

>>42431530
The only way you wouldn't lose tons of weight on a WFPB is by trying to prove me wrong by eating a giant jar of peanut butter everyday.

You can be assblasted all you want but I know I'll be turning some lurkers into WFPB diet bros :)))

>>42431482
a lb of chicken breast has 500 calories and 100 grams of protien

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>>42431572
actually it has 520 calories

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Does anyone have a good goal tracking app they could recommend? I've looked through a lot of the iOS ones and they all seem to have too much extra shit attached to them. I'm looking for something that's simply: Did you do X today? How many times? Yes or No?

Should I just use a manual journal for this.

It wouldn't just be for fat loss/diet things, but self improvement in general. Thanks guys!

>>42431757
I've heard good things about Hibitua, but I gather it's for video game people.

It might be easier to use a physical journal, since it'll take more effort and you'd take it more seriously (maybe)

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/full day/ fast complete!

Just a one cantaloupe-carrot smoothie for lunch for them energy boost

Excited break fast tomorrow at 11 AM

>>42431808
>just one (for item)

You didn't fast. Which is good, because fasting is stupid. Do IF it you need to feel like you are fasting, but don't fast.

I use nomie2

Perfect for self improvement and keeping track of things

I did a lot of introspection and realized I had been reinforcing being conditioned to have low self worth.

Anyone else have a hard life growing up? I had a lot of broken homes and such.

I ask because after a week of journaling, I finally found the phrase that I think I can use as an incantation to pick myself up. I thought maybe it might apply and help others. Its what I need to hear myself say more often, and I think it will press that mental button that gets my attention to start caring about myself.

I'll copy paste it if anyones interested. I didnt want to just dump it if no one thinks it would apply though.

>>42431825

I guess its like IF technically.
Because if i'm gonna count the juice, my next meal will be 24 hours from now.

So I devised a primitive stir fry consisting of

1 sliced chicken breast
1 back of frozen veggies (those ones you steam in the microwave that are like 4 servings or so)
1 tbspoon of oil to help keep shit from sticking

And a marinade that if I understand correctly, should have negligible calories

Is this a decent fatty meal, or are there things I haven't considered that are calorie traps. Is there something I should add?

>>42431849
use olive oil and not canola or vegetable oil

list the marinade ingredients

>>42431835
Tell me your secrets

>>42431835
Good on you mate

I just do meditation and daily affirmations (Metta) like saying stuff like

May all beings/I be free from suffering

>>42431830
for
>>42431757

Nomie2 keeps me on track on everything. Its flexible enough for everything. Highly recommend it.

>>42431142
why should I?
just go die tubby

>>42431782
>>42431830
>>42431889

Thanks guys, I'll give these two a look. I've definitely seen Nomie2 mentioned on /fit/ before

>>42431861
Sunflower oil is all I have for right now

Let's see, got

Worcestershire sauce (claims no calories)
Malt vinegar (claims no calories)
Chili and garlic sauce (like 5 calories per tbsp)
Paprika
Garlic Powder
Curry powder
Bit of garlic salt
Pepper flakes

>>42431869

Well, I wrote a lot. But here is what I needed to hear myself say. It might sound odd since its out of context, but I thought maybe it could help anyone it applied to and maybe meditate to see if one can get anything out of it. I just figured if we're fat, maybe we have common development. Its basically about habitual negative memories and views beat into my head, first by family, then others, and finally myself.

"Yes, it hurt. And it will keep hurting. And its hard. And there's not much good in the world for (my name). But that's ok. Because you can do your best, and even if you cant always count on yourself every time, you have to keep trying because you deserve to be able to care about yourself. Its a hard, lonely world and full of awful people who cant help themselves betraying and undermining you. And there's never gonna be anyone who you can really trust, even if not especially fate. But at least you can have some confidence that you can still do your best, and that's as much as anyone could ever expect. You don't suffer alone. You. Have. Value. Especially to you."

Hope it helps someone who feels the same.

>>42431881

Thank you very much. Be blessed.

>>42431861

Don't fry in olive oil you dumb shit, jesus learn how to cook.

>>42431053
could be bloat
maybe you miscalculated your calorie intake or expenditure
doubt it's a matter of what you ate
do you weigh yourself at the same time under the same conditions?
two steps forward, one step back, all the way until you make it and then some

>>42431950
>Myth number two: Frying temperatures will change olive oil from a ‘good oil’ to a ‘bad oil.’

>Cooking fats and oils are considered dietary fats of which there are three types, saturated, trans and unsaturated. The first two are bad, but the third, unsaturated fat, includes olive oil, a healthy plant-derived dietary fat. The heat required to raise the temperature of olive oil high enough to fry food cannot change the chemical composition of olive oil from a good one to a bad

weighed in 600grams from my goal weight.
Still a fat fuck, GGWP was fun playing.
Time to lose another probs 5kg

>>42431964

Holy fuck no you flying fuck I don't give a shit about health, but frying in olive oil will make it taste bad, Olive oil has such a goddamn low burnpoint it's fucking useless.

Fry in peanut, grape, or sunflower oil, but don't be a fucking dumbass loser who can't even be arsed to figure out how to use a fucking knife let alone what fats to use when frying.

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We're going to make it. Unless you've been letting yourself down. In which case, you're fucked. I'm never leaving these threads so you faggots better watch your ass if you give up. Don't forget, even when you get to your goal, you'll always be /fat/.

Anyway, what are you guys even doing this for? For me: bad break-up, little direction in life, just hit 24, just graduated college. But what about you, fattie?

>>42431110
you're weak. don't act like you're too hard on yourself when plenty of people can simply starve themselves to death if they want to.

but it's okay, at least you can admit you're weak and have an addiction to binge eating. try to taper it off or indulge in vegetables. next time you wanna binge go buck wild on a whole eggplant. eat a pound of spinach.

also, if you're going low-to-no carb make sure to include a cheat day where you refeed on carbs. it can go a long way to killing those urges to binge

>>42431939
Its good that you are learning to like yourself, but it's bad that your genuinely believe the world is full of awful people who will betray you.

Also, if you know you are taking something out of context then don't just copy something like that, take the time to say what you mean directly in this context.

>>42431967
My original goal weight was 70kg. I revised it to 55kg because pretty much everyone here said they still looked fat after hitting their goal. I don't care what the scale says, I want to not look fat anymore.

>>42431224
what's your protein intake like?

And jesus lad, >>42431926 do yourself a fucking favour and buy real, actual in season vegetables so your stirfry will actually fuckin taste good.

I'd also use fresh ginger and garlic in the marinade.

>>42432004
55kg?
femanon or super short?

>>42431996
im 21 and i've never lived before

>>42431327
fasting is a good idea, just don't overdo it, m8. hope you make it

>>42432016
165cm.

My sister thinks that goal is to low, sailrabbit.com says that's about a BMI of 20 for my height (I think. It was in that ballpark at least).

It isn't a hard goal, in any case. I'm cutting until I don't look fat and then working harder to build muscle so maybe I'll eventually look decent.

>>42431967
for reference, I started at 100kg in mid december, am down to 76, goal weight was 75 but thinking i'll go to 70kg.
i'm 176cm/20M and been doing pushups/situps in prep for australian defence force reserves

>>42432004

Well, in my case its true. I am poor so my world is full of cut throats. I have to be on defense by default, see.

To put it in context would mean I have to outline my childhood development, and I dont think people wanna read all that. Its basically just how people form self defeating ideas. If you get treated like shit and no one validates you, you become withdrawn, which begins to actuate the accusation. Then you take more negativity as corroboration until you are seeing how you behave and start telling the same crap to yourself.

Thank you for your consideration, I appreciate it.

>>42432081
>it's basically just how people form self defeating ideas

Yes, if that's what you want to say than just say that. It is true that people here wouldn't be terribly interested in your story, but the idea that people hear negative things and begin to internalize those negatives is true.
.it took me a while to realize that i was starting to believe the awful things I told myself as a joke, like "how did you fuck that up you are so dumb"

When I realized I would never say something like that to somebody else, even as a joke, I realized how little I thought of myself and began to change it.

All that being said
>in my case it's true

No it isn't. You're focusing on the same negatives in the same way about the outside world that you were about yourself before you started thinking differently. Some people suck, but not everyone sucks. Keep telling yourself everyone sucks and eventually you'll really believe it, and that will make it much harder to make any new friendships or relationships in your life.

There's a difference between being cautious or guarded and thinking people in general are awful.

I'm feeling good /fat/. Ever since going to the gym for the first time last week I've been going every chance I get, I love it. Last time I checked I was 355lbs, down from 360 a couple of weeks ago. I feel great without soda, I feel motivated, and I finally feel optimistic about life. We're all gonna make it.

>>42432175
Nice. Keep it up.

I felt bad for skipping the gym for a weekend vacation but I walked 60km so it kinda evened out.

>>42431808
>2017
>not doing a 5 day water fast

>>42432128

Did read and will consider. I dont want relationships. I just dont want self rejection. I know you see things from your vantage point and it is probably different than mine. Im not saying the world is all terrible people. I am saying mine is more than most. For example, if you are in a prison yard, it does not serve one to be Mr. Friendly.

I dont want to contest it and litigate the defense of my own reality. I appreciate the thoughts, but as I said, I didnt include all the context, shouldn't and can't. I've built enough text walls on it as it is.

I just meant to offer something helpful to anyone who feels they have some common issues.

Thanks again, have a good week.

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>>42421449
320 Today, V2lbs from yesterday, V5lbs from start.

3.5mi on treadmill, 13.5mi overall.

>>42430780

Previous thread
>>>42419551
>>>42419551
>>>42419551

Link it in the op next time

>>42430780
Bros, I publicly pledge that I will eat only 1600 kcal today. You have my word.

I've had enough of vacation time, and today is going to be the first day of getting back on the cutting train.

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Questions:

1) Is low carb a meme?
2) How much carb is low carb?
3) Oats are so delicious are they bad for my weightloss?

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>>42431142
You got this Anon!

>>42431996
I've been fat since like elementary second grade. Had and still have a fuckton of issues.
I've been over 275 at my worst. Went down to 210 in a few months simply by consuming only alcohol during uni, had my first relationship due to confidence boost, went back to 240 due to sedentary lifestyle and gf cooking unhealthy.
Broke up with her cause she was a complete gains goblin in every way, started living a bit more healthy, more sports, no junk food shit like that.
After 2 months of this i broke my ankle thank to more sports, and was forced to rest in bed for a month. Staring at my own body for this long made me realize the error of my ways. Started browsing fit, educated myself, mentally prepared, and when i got out of bed about 4 months ago i was ready to commit.

I'm 202 lbs now, at 6'1, and i'm not stopping until i'm down to 180.
Then i'll begin phase 2.

Thanks /fit/.

>>42431996
I've never been a normal weight even as a child and I want to know what I'd actually look like not fat and make friends. I've been terrified of going outside, never got to experience normal things and I just want to be a stronger person both physically and mentally.
It would be nice to find someone as well, but I think it's too late for that with how short I am and how much I used to weigh because my body is going to be a complete wreck. I have lost almost 150 lbs, so I'm doing pretty well.

>>42432574
No.
Low carb foods or low carb dietary macros?
Not unless you add a ton of sugar or some other garbage.

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I'm FUCKING furious that I bought this and ate so much of it. Should I throw this away?

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About to embark on my first 24hr fast, wish me luck /fat/ties

>>42432912
What is it?

>>42432912
Yes, duh, and while you are at it throw all the other stuff you KNOW is bad away.

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>>42432912
Think about it this way, by throwing it away you are saving money by saving time spent on your diet as well as increasing your life span.
If anything its an economic decision.

>>42432996
>>42432912
This, its a waste if you go over your calories and its a waste if you throw it out. either way its a waste, but throwing it out saves you long term

I fuckin' hate myself
>Told myself I absolutely had to lose weight
>Started dieting and exercising. Was serious and dedicated to it.
>Only drink water and eat the bare essentials
>Start lifting and running for the first time in my life
>No loss at first, but in the second and third month lost 20~30 pounds
>Start eating shit again and exercising less
>Just weighed myself, I weigh more than I did when I started.

All I want in life is to be a big strong fat dude. Got a big dick and I'm tall, but it's wasted on my porky ass. I just wanna look like Zangief...

>>42432475
Follow up, bros. I had about 358 kcal for breakfast right now, and that too I was wildly overestimating what I consumed. I can make it lads.

>>42433069
You can start again today and lose even more than before, shits a marathon not a race

>>42433071
Cereal?

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>>42433111
Nah lad. Just a mish mash of things. I'm at a hotel so I'm trying to be safe with my choices.

Anyone here do 16:8 IF? Im considering it but a lot of the benefits sound like broscience bullshit

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>can almost do a 5km run now
>can do pullups and chinups
>40 pushups, 50 squats, 25 situps
>still fat because I can't stop stuffing my stupid maw

>>42433149
You can't out exercise a bad diet.

So

You know

Stop.

>>42433144
I do 16:8 or 18:6. The only benefit is that you have a set time when you can eat so it stops you mindlessly snacking all day. Helps keep my appetite in control a bit too.

>>42433166
Do you also follow keto?

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>be 5'11"
>never owned a scale
>figured I weighed ~170 lbs. for years
>finally bought a scale
>183 lbs.

>>42433142
>1.5 link
You didn't leave half a link behind somewhere did you?

>>42433163
I know. I just need to exercise the same discipline I do with working out. I don't miss a single day unless I am injured or something. Why is it so hard to do the same with food? Some sort of mental addiction or something?

The TDEE links in the OP dont work anymore

>>42433190
I mean, probably. You have to eat too live, so if course it's natural to want to eat.

Have you tried anything to help? Changing your diet? Eating a bigger breakfast? Allowing yourself a routine cheat meal weekly or monthly in order to reduce cheating outside of that?

>>42433196
The OP fucked up and copied the (complex) and (simple) descriptors as part of the link. Delete that and they'll work.

>struggling with money for a while
>finally starting to get money right
>yesterday had broccoli ommelete, chicken breast and salad, turkey burger, and corn. And today I had oatmeal, turkey burger and corn, and chicken breast rice and broccoli.

I'm 338, was 230 at my thinnest at 17. was 340 at 19 then got down to 260 by 20. Now I'm 27, and in a career I love, but it involves a lot of socializing and having to be active, so I want to get thin for that, and I miss skateboarding and being active.

So I'm hoping I'm on the right track. I'd be happy to be 250.

>>42433219
Changing my diet is a bit difficult due to tl:dr circumstances, but I have at least cut out 90% of junkfood and I only drink water and milk now.
Eating a bigger breakfast doesn't seem to help.
I try to limit my cheating to one day only but I falter. It's not like I am hungry, I just want to eat. And the worst part is I realize that but before I know it I am eating again. It's like a fucking nightmare.
I have been able to sort of hold off some of the binges with gum. I go through a packet in a few days. Perhaps I need to substitute some of my diet with just raw veggies.

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>>42431996
36 here and had active social life, everything normal, but at some point i realized that i wasn't happy with myself and fell in a strong depression.
surprise surprise it's because i've been fat my entire life.
now i am losing weight, started lifting like when i was 15 yo and started being more focused about what i want for my life and my enviroment, what i eat and what my goals are.
just focus guys, get fit for yourself and to be the best version of yourself that you can build,not for the eventual QT that you might or might not find someday or to please other's vision.
stay strong, we are gonna make it.

>>42433184
Lol nah m8. I only had one but I put in half more just to be safe.

>dad's side of the family is mostly body builders with fast metabolism and incredible willpower
>mums side of the family has a lot of health issues
>been a weird amalgamate of both throughout my life, never gained weight as a kid but had the health issues of my mum's side so i cant really excerise
>never got any muscle as a result, was just skin and bones
>got the nickname "pinns" cause ive always been "as thin as a sewing pin"
>fast foward to year 9-10 of highschool
>get punched in the face with depression and very suddenly gained about 20kgs in 2 years
>assume its just puberty finally hitting me and carry on trying to be a bit healthier
>4 years later and im just getting worse [spoiler]hips/thighs/calves almost entirely covered in stretchmarks[/spoiler]
>head up state to train with my dad for 3 weeks and actually manage to lose a bit (about 76 kg down to about 64)
>been a few months know and im almost back up to 70 again
>cant do much about it as im running around after my lil brother most of the day and sleeping the rest of it

sorry for the speil, but is there hope for me?
should i try again?

>>42433318
>>cant do much about it as im running around after my lil brother most of the day
???

>>42431996
Trying to get into local politics, need to look a cut above the rest.

>>42433326
hyperbole
its a small house

>>42433318
yes, try again. Before I got to my goal I trampolined for a while up and down in weight.

It takes time and dedication to permanently change your habits.
you can make it

>>42433318
How short are you that 70kg is fat?

>>42432782
What is the actual evidence?
I mean dietry macros
I just soak my oats in milk

>>42433343
5'2"
inb4 >lol midget

is all the hype about garcinia cambogia true?
ive been on it for weeks now and nothing's changed

>>42433362
Everything except DNP is a meme

w-work out until somebody loves you, right /fat/?

i got the social life, the friends, the hobbies, i look good and dress well, i'm white, i have rich parents. when do i get my qt gf

>>42433375
When you reach 4 plate deadlift

>>42433375
you must be a shitty person then.
you can't change that lifting :^)

>>42433375
Are you asking chicks out? That's an important step.

>>42433375
your likeability decreases everytime 8 minutes you spend on 4chan

>>42433372
and where would one attain this..."dnp"?

>>42433388
yeah i guess it's this. nearly every girl i meet is lesbian, taken, or both. gotta expand my social circles (and continue to improve my body, obv. can't hurt)

>>42433394
i think it increased because i only use this site for /fat/, fph, and a niche arcade game thread on /jp/ now

>>42432692
keep it up buddy, we're all gonna make it

Weighed myself for the first time in a year. 322 lbs. Welp.

Gonna be lurking here a lot. I'm 95% sure I have sleep apnea so it's either lose weight or die suffocating in my own fat any night now.

I really hope we make it brahs. Heading back to university soon, and I'm worried the stress will make talk back into old routines.

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>>42433563
>>42433592

we're all going to make it senpai, just plow through it. eat clean, run, walk, whatever.
keep lurking here to stay motivated.

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I can feel the craving on my shoulders, weighing down my soul. In-n-Out just 2 short miles away. Open until 1 am. Give me strength brothers in my darkest hour.

>>42433563
Was at 310 end of last last year, currently 216 right now. It could not be more worth it dude, I feel amazing, so much better in so many ways. Stick with it man. Good luck.

>>42433847
you have a freezer? everytime you get a craving down 34 ice cubes and a tall glass of water
if cravings persist eat a small cube of cheese

>>42433847
Go chug a glass of water, it will make you feel full temporarily and kills any cravings you might get. Always helps me a lot.

>>42433859
...3-4....not...34...

Had to switch from keto to clean eating and calorie counting. My appetite just gets destroyed by keto, there were times where I didn't eat for 3+ days and felt nothing. This is great for weight loss but it's not sustainable, especially when I want to start lifting again to make sure I'm not skinnyfat at the end of this road.

>>42433868
Hold off hunger by freezing yourself to death

>>42430780
tried to lose weight from 116kg back in beginning of june.

after 30 days i was down to 106.

now im 103.

maintaining pretty well. feels good to have had some losses.

>>42433886
speeds the metabolism i guess

>>42432912
Why would you even buy this? You know that you'll just end up eating it all with no moderation. I know this because I do this too.

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>>42430780
how the HELL am i suppose to keep motivation when this shit exists

>>42433926
It doesnt even look tasty.

>>42433926
That looks like garbage.

>>42433934
>>42433941
>brioche bun
>vanilla icecream
>brownie
>malteasers
>hot caramel topping
sorry to hear about the lack of tastebuds mates

>>42433956
At least I'll be lacking fat while you keep eating shit like that my dude

>>42433965
:'(

>>42433926
I'd rather an actual burger

>>42433926
How the hell are you ever going to make it if you derive satisfaction from the disgusting food you eat?

I have to give a speech this friday. Public speaking is my biggest fear
I'm used to eating when I'm this stressed, it's hard to know how to cope with the anxiety without eating

Oh God guys I'm dying. I went to the gym for the first time a few days ago and I'm still sore. Baby steps. I mean I can't wait to go back but holy fuck man. Sorry for basic bitch blogging. It feels nice to complain for once.

>>42433988
>if you derive satisfaction from the digusting food you eat
i mean, food like this is literally designed to get you hooked
i get its my fault for eating it, but its not my fault it tastes good

i eat fatty foods mostly because of reflux problems. my throat flares up and feels like its on fire and it will only calm down with heart foods like sourdough and chips
anyone else suffer the same problem/have an alternate?

>>42433994
Nah man I feel ya.

I did Gridiron (American Football) for the first time ever on the weekend and my body is shattered. Let's bitch together.

>>42433994
What the fuck did you do?

You want this gym habit to be sustainable, not wreck you for days.

>>42434019
That doesn't make any sense, man. The only cure for your problem is to eat heavy carbs?

Have you seen a doctor?

>>42433994
hot showers anon, and know your limits
post-workout burn is meant to hurt but still feel satisfying, if it seriously hurts you may have pulled something

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>>42433926
Is this an american thing, because it looks really fucked up to me.

>>42433994
It goes away after a few weeks bro, don't sweat it. First time I went back to the gym I got too crazy with the lifting and literally my arms swelled up and I couldn't bend them for like four days. Not joking. lmao

>>42434019
Bro I had huge reflux problems and eating healthy and losing weight cleared them up completely. Pop a tums and drop your weight nigga.

New year resolution was to lose 60lbs lol I started at 232 at my highest and I'm only down to 218 because I immediately fell off the wagon after a week for such a long time, is it too late anons?

>>42434070
[spoiler]australian surprisingly enough[/spoiler]

>>42434103
It's never too late

>>42434109
where from?

>>42434099
its an actual problem with my esophagus itself though, its like little furrows in the tissue or smth
but sure ill "pop a tums" whatever that means

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CONFESS

>>42434120
i...i hate myself

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>>42434120
I'm planning on going to the local store and buying some chocolate or something.

>>42434120
im trying to eat healthy but my cravings wont stop so ive eaten like 4 mandarins today
(the fruit, not the race)

>>42431414


>>42431414
Lmao your diet is like 90% carbs

>>42434120
im actually a female

>>42434239
That cannot be true.

>>42434120
my 21st birthday is in a week and i have the entire house to myself for three weeks so i'm probably going to end up drinking enough that i stop cutting efficiently, or maybe even gain weight.

the only positive is that i've recently begun to feel much, much less hungry, reminding myself to eat instead of constantly wanting to eat. so maybe i'll make it yet.

>>42434241
fuck, youre right
my existence is a lie

>>42434255
That's right because there cannot be women in /fat/. Why would they come here if they make fun out of fat guys irl?

>>42434266
you okay anon?
you wanna talk?

>>42434277
Sadly it's not going to change anything as women dont like fat guys.

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>Be going to the gym for a year and a half now
>Been fat the whole time
>Long period where I went 7 days a week
>I'm fat but I have good endurance, can run a mile and life for an hour and a half easily
>Realized it's the shitty diet and psych meds that are holding me back

>Changed my diet, stopped going to the gym so much
>Started tapering off my psych meds (for bipolar)
>I'm not depressed or manic, just normal: I don't need the meds and my doctor has told me this point blank
>Tomorrow I will be off the main anti-psychotic I take and closer to my weight loss goals (it makes you gain weight like a mother fucker)

>Proud of myself and how far I've come

>>42434286
not necessarily true
its all about the personality

>>42434286
youre here to get in shape, arent you?

>>42434291

That's true. I had a cute girlfriend recently and I was fatter than I am now.

But I had to get to know her. I notice girls don't check me out. I dress nice and smile and I'm not ugly, just fat.

You can get girls but you gotta work it because you're at a natural disadvantage

hey /fat/ i've read a lot of conflicting information on alcohol and calories. how should you log drinks? do they metabolize the same as food or sugary soda would?

>>42434286
most guys don't like fat women either.
Exceptions are the dad bod and thicc women

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>>42434291
>its all about the personality
reminds me of this
>>42434308
yes but it's a long way for me from fat to thin.

>>42434312
log it the same as food and soft drink

>>42434309
tbf its the same for girls too
no one *wants* to date a fat woman
>>42434325
with the whole """thicc"""" movement being a thing its kind of discouraging when you see guys drooling over beefy thighs and a skinny body
its just so unrealistic

>>42434312
if you are a heavy drinker: don't log your drinks, you'll eat less nutritious food to be at your tdee or whatever deficit you are aiming at which will bhe worse. if you start stagnating or gaining weight you'll blame it on the booze and will be more motivated to stop. at least that worked in my case and now i just have a cheat day where i get plastered.

if it's like just a casual couple of beers, sure log them and treat them as a cheat meal. liquor was my worst weight loss enemy.

>>42434344
>its kind of discouraging
this is the dumbest shit that like every woman does

why is that discouraging and not motivating to you? do you not want to improve yourself

>no one *wants* to date a fat woman
bullshit, it's a really common fetish

>>42434344

I like chubby girls, just not fat. I'm chubby not fat, idk how much girls like chubby guys. I know they sure as hell like fit guys more

My ex used to tell me I'm not fat I'm thick and that would make me happy lol

>>42431204
Green tea

>>42434362
I think chubby girls are more likely to have low self-esteem so some of them will want a guy who isn't super fit, because it would make themselves feel bad.
For long-term relationships I mean, not just casual sex

>>42434361
yes, the key word being "fetish"

After being flat broke for 6 months only eating ramen and less than a dollar microwave meals, I have never had such a strong grip on dieting.

I can turn down everything with zero effort. It's weird and I can't explain it. I think I could probably become anorexic even.

Anyways if you're fat just go blow all your money on some hookers and blow and in the next few months I'm sure you will hit that target weight

>>42434373
boohoo lmao if you wanna be conventionally attractive put in work and get fit

>>42434379
Excellent, finally being poor pays off

the advice here is fucking terrible
even if any of you lose the chub you'd never keep it off longer than a year
if you take anything, ANTYHING you hear here seriously, you deserve to fail

>>42431278
I'm a 180cm female down from 100kg to 78kg. I'm still fat. Been lifting for a while now. We will look good when we are around 70kg, I suppose.

>>42434404
>if you take anything, ANTYHING you hear here seriously, you deserve to fail
What's your problem?

>>42431278
you will look pretty lean at 75
at least i did, even without much mass

>>42434384
how about you go do that as well, eh tubby?

>>42434413
damn, good for you! how long did it take?

>>42434404
we're just here to give each other a pat on the back and some motivation why you gotta be so salty damn

>>42430780
y'all got any advice for soothing down/fading stretchmarks?

I'm 16.5%bf according to electric scales and the only online calculator to give me a non-ridiculous number and my abdomen still sticks out a mile

when I'm standing and tense my gut, not much of it jiggles any more, but it's still very prominent in profile

is it down to posture perhaps?

>>42434513
APT? (Anterior Pelvic Tilt)

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>just weighed myself before a shower
>scales said 57.8kg
>goal is 53
>almost bust a nut with excitement but come back to my senses and realise thats not right
>try again
>still 68
why do you tease me so? is it fun to you? do you enjoy my pain, god?

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>>42434577
>goal is 53

i really hope you are a woman

>>42431328
started mid december sometime, down 24kg, have 1kg to go to my goal but will probs lose another maybe 6kg
176cm/M/ SW 100kg, CW76

Breakfast:

80 g oats - 290 calories
27 g protein powder - 105,4 calories
310 g milk - 111,6 calories

507,4 total

oats is actually suprisingly dense in calories, 507 seems like a lot still, i cut down on the powder from yesterday which saved like 60 calories

i calculated my TDEE yesterday, and i got something stupid like 3600, seeing some of you guys are doing crazy shit like 1600 a day, 3600 seems like a field day.

i can't believe that i've consistently eaten over 3600 A DAY for the past many years to accumulate weight

>>42434120
I only did 20 minutes of intense cardio instead of 30. It was late and I think I hurt my big toe because when I walk I have a sharp pain that feels like I'm stepping on a splinter. I'm never going to make it.

>>42434639
>when I walk I have a sharp pain that feels like I'm stepping on a splinter

in the toe itself or in the joint? is it swollen or normal?

>>42431996
I want to be a good role model for my daughter and also intimidate all her potential suitors.

>>42431996
To remove kebab, and for myself.

>>42434898
Thats a good reason.

>>42434898
>intimidate all her potential suitors
What? Why?

Ok, I know this isn't QTDDTOT but ever since I started seriously training, my weight is fluctuating between +/- 1kg. I'm 7kg away from my goal.

How possible it is that I'm losing fat but gaining muscle considering that I'm sure about my calories and I've had a sedentary life for maybe 10+ years?

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An earlier thread today had me considering making Mac and cheese tonight. I had already put it into MFP in anticipation.

But cooler heads prevailed, and I went out to what is becoming my favorite fast food chain because it's mostly protein.

>>42431996
was a stick all my life and now im suddenly much chubbier than id prefer
want to build some decent-enough muscle t so i could defend myself if i ever needed to.
want to make my pops proud and be happy with who i am

Man, I'm starting to get really, really angry at my parents for letting me get fat as a kid.

I keep thinking about it and it really pisses me off. All you had to do was make me eat less and I'd not get fat. That's it. Just say 'no' a few more times, and that would've helped avoid a decade or so of various mental, social, and physical issues.

Thing is I keep trying to justify that it was my fault, but I was a child who knew no better. They did. I could see it being my fault if I was fat when well into my 20s/30s, but no, I'm only 21 now, and I'm trying to physically better myself. Objectively, the majority of the blame falls on the parent.

My god, it really fucking pisses me off. Negligence and laziness on their end has me fixing these mistakes for way longer than ideal. Christ, I will genuinely try my best to not let my kid live unhealthily. Gotta give them a better life than I had.

>>42434907
masculinity complex i guess? though when you have a child/little sibling you do suddenly get very overprotective and want to want to show off for them

>>42434925

You'd obviously know better what is the case with your parents but it's not always negligence and laziness. In my case it was a combination of parents who can't say no and me being a spoilt little brat that just wants everything.

>>42434925
Are you kidding me?

Dude, of course you bear some of the burden for this. You could have changed at any point, and you didn't. The blame absolutely belongs with your parents, but the idea that it is entirely their fault (which is clearly what you are suggesting) is total bullshit. Blaming all your problems in your parents isn't going to change them or help you.

>>42434927
>get very overprotective
That's going to trigger her doing anything that daddy doesnt like.

fat fucks

>>42434951
well yeah

>>42434951
Atleast i'm 6 kg less fat fuck than month ago.

>>42434947
uh....ok....

>>42434907
Essentially I'd like her to date people who wouldn't be intimidated by my size.
It would be heart-breaking to have her date a nu-male.

>>42434944
>You could have changed at any point, and you didn't
The thing is I didn't know I could change. As a child, I knew nothing about my own personal agency and the consequences of my actions. My parents didn't teach me the right eating habits, they often had me eating out, they themselves had no idea how to lose weight nor they they have any exercise regime. My parents even encourage me to stay "rolly polly" as my mom would say it. I was not given the resources (information-based and otherwise) nor taught the framework or process to improve myself, and I think that falls solely on my parents. I'm trying to objectively analyze this and I don't see how this isn't almost entirely my parents fault. Perhaps you can change my view, I'm open to different ideas.

Again, if I was older and still blaming them, then i can see that being silly. I understand that I am an adult now, and my agency, my choices (regarding myself) and the subsequent consequences are mine to make and bear alone.

Okay but I will change my original statement. It probably wasn't 100% their fault. Circumstance and me being a little shit played a role, but I still think the vast, vast, vast majority of the fault falls on the parents.

I would say the same thing if I let my future child get fat. Of course, circumstance plays role, but as long as I'm making the decisions and exercise control over my child, it is my absolutely my fault if anything harmful ever happens to them.

>>42435017
>who wouldn't be intimidated by my size
How tall are you?
>nu-male
What describes nu-male?

>>42434917
That looks yum. What's the place called?

>>42435056
>>42435056
I'm 6'1 and you can check out the urban dictionary definition of nu-male since it's pretty accurate to what I'm thinking of.

>>42435076
I have the general idea about nu-males but according to you whats the difference between male and nu-male ?

Why do some people eat disgusting shit to lose weight when they can eat nice things in small portions?

Guys Im working with very obese girl, have her box squatting with kettlebel that is 4kg and she failed after 3 sets on 6 rep

Had problems with deadlifitng 8kg kettlebel for 6 reps

for me as Im powerlifter its something completly bizzare, but here shit to do with her is obvious and progress with weights until shes ready to touch barbell

for conditioning im making her do rowing machine and trying to get her to do burpees, some very short box jumps etc.

More problematic is upper body, bench supported kettlebel row is no problemo, Im making her doing standing with a bit lean foward pushups

redpill me fatties what upper body/conditioning you did

dont want her to do dumbells really

>>42435129
because taste is subjective

>>42435076
>im 6'1
No ones intimidated by your height at least

>>42435090
This seems like an odd conversation so I have to ask why you'd even care to know?

>>42435040
I would agree with you that the majority of the blame falls on the parents for fat children.

But you haven't been a child for half a decade. In the US you can drive at 16 and vote at 18, surely you have some concept of personal responsibility at that point.

From your description, it doesn't sound like your parents had the knowledge to encourage you to get in shape. That doesn't absolve the, but it should temper your anger. Parents aren't special, they're just people. They can't teach what they don't know.

>as long as I'm making the decisions...it is absolutely my fault if anything harmful ever happens to them

No, it isn't. It's partially your fault. That's what I'm saying. Children are independent to varying degrees, and they do make independent decisions. Even more importantly, as a parent there are things you cannot control. Bad things can happen to children outside of the parents control. To claim full responsibility is absurd.

>>42435075
Pepper Lunch. I'm in Japan, but I think they have franchised into a few other countries. They might be in California in the US.

>>42435176
People aren't usually intimidated by anyones height anyways.

>>42433854
Height? Great progress anon

>>42435183
So a person cannot be interested in another person opinion? You make it sound like i'm trying to make you write bank account and password.

>>42435202
Not at all, I'm just curious.

So I fucked up and went 500 calories over yesterday by having pizza for dinner. But it was a long hard day which had me walking 8 miles in the rain with a heavy bag, is there anyway I could accurately tell how many calories i burned during this?

Going so far over is making me feel like shit

>>42435230
So have 500 less today, problem solved.

>>42432574
It depends on you, Will eating low carb yield better weight loss results than moderate-high carbs?
Personally the lower my carbs are the better my weight loss will be, the more carbs i eat the less weight i lose regardless of the calories, mind you that some people can eat a lot of carbs but still lose a lot of weight, find out what works for you.

And oats are goat, best food after chicken breasts

What's the best way to cook chicken if I don't have a lot of time?
So far I've just put them in a pan for a while next to my scrambled eggs, but they tend to come off dry and spongy, I still eat them, but it's not a pleasant experience.

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>>42432912
Holy shit how low is your will power if you willingly go to the grocery store and buy big ass pint when your goal is to lose weight?

>>42433144
I do it anyways since i got nothing to lose

>>42435205
You're curious about my curiosity? Well, what can i tell, i like knowing other people personal perspectives. That's pretty much to it.

>>42434120
I started my day out well, had oats for breakfast and a can of tuna for lunch. Then it all went to hell with about 1,000 calories of KFC.

>>42433401
It's illegal nigga, it belongs on the same category as steroids, also you can fucking die from this shit if not used properly so don't fuck with it

>>42433956
Well go ahead and eat 20 of that shit if you worship it that much

>>42435265
fair enough then
suppose there is no silver bullet for weight loss

>>42430924

i lost 12lbs in a week by eating at tdee, keep going anon, pride of you

I need some help and I thought maybe you guys have had some experience with this.

So I finally started counting my exact kcal intake and it comes to about ~1100-1200 kcal daily. MyFitnessPal says that my daily goal is 1500 kcal and when I added my cycling (which comes to about 400 kcal) I get a daily goal of 1900.
I'm wondering if my daily intake of 1100-1200 is too low and slowing metabolism and if I should add some more snacks to even it out to at least 1500-1600. Any thoughts?

>>42433994
Everyone gets doms when they go to the gym for the first time, it'll go away after a couple of days so try to heal, don't go back to the gym the next day like i did and make your situation even worse. If you didn't workout all your body parts i suggest you work the ones that didn't get sore the next time to get that "first time" soreness out of the way

>>42435296
whats your tdee?

>>42435296
It's never a good idea to account exercise into your TDEE.
Also, how on earth are you meeting your protein goals at those calorie levels?

>>42435318
2400

>>42435322
>protein
I eat mostly eggs, cheese, milk and chicken

>>42435323
1400 to lose 2 pounds a week and 1900 to lose 1 pound a week
also it's better to not count your exercises in mfp and to consider it as something to help you reach your goal faster but it ultimately falls back to you

>>42435348
What I wanna know is if there's a problem that I'm eating 1200 instead of 1400

>>42433144

Please do some research. iF is not a meme.

Dr Jason Fung - Obesity Code

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>>42433592
It all leads to Stress. stress is the final boss of /fat/

>>42435363
the problem with eating really low cals is getting enough macro nutrients and the micro nutrients, if you can get enough daily vitamins and minerals as well as enough protein there shouldn't be any problem

>>42433144
Im doing it too, helps with being disciplined imo. Everything else is a nice side effect, if its true.

>>42435238
I'm on 1500 a day senpai

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>1lb sausage roll
>£1
god has forsaken us

Diet or not I would buy just for the price and size alone

hope its not too processed.

>>42431808

is there anything more exciting that rewarding yourself with a meal after a fast?

>>42435578
eating after a workout

>>42434120
I ate two fucking croquets in the morning and whole chocolate bar later and haven't ate healthy dinner yet.
FUCK.

gonna try pushing calories up to 1500, see if I feel any better
every time I think about raising intake my brain throws these barriers at me
>You're just making excuses to eat more
>What if you can't go back to lower calories?
>You'll be wasting time if it doesn't work
>800kcal has worked up to now, you're just weak
then I scrap the idea until I binge again

what should I do?
I'm not confident I can carry this on forever

>>42435653
800kcal is a fucking awful idea, yes go to 1500.

>>42435677
it's helped me shed 160lbs and counting

>>42435591
THat too,

I think self-restrain makes food taste better

>>42435692
That's great, but it's too low and not sustainable. That's the problem you are describing right now and asking for help with. Go to 1200 at least, man.

>>42435717
but what if it doesn't cure my binge tendencies
>more whining
I know I know, I just need confirmation that I'm not wasting my time or looking for excuses
my brain is fucking weird like that

>>42435739
Then keep going up.

You've lost a bunch of weight, and that's great.

But even harder than losing weight is keeping weight off. If you keep binging you are going to be locked in a cycle of eating to little and binging.

Eat like 500 under your TDEE and see if you don't binge anymore. You shouldn't binge once you reach your goal, so figure out now what you need to do to stop it.

>>42435777
If you want to know what I eat, just ask
there's no need to assume

>>42435790

Sorry I left my email on.

And no I'm not making any assumptions man. All I'm suggesting is that you add other sources of carbs to add to your daily diet so you don't get tempted to binge, that's all.

>>42435813

*other clean sources of carbs, fuck me

Sorry, just got back from a long day of work and heavy cardio

>>42435130
Why don't you want dumbells?

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I've been doing IF for two weeks. Now I've just gone straight into OMAD. I'm finding my weight loss consistent (lost about 6kg (13 pounds)) I've noticed odd steps backwards and plateaus. Mostly to do with my sleep.

I was really attracted to this because it meant not having to fuck around MFP and calorie counting. Not to disparage it like many stupid normies. I know it works. I just can't be fucked with trying to best find everything I eat on there. OMAD has been perfect for me especially coming from a gradual IF routine of 16:8, 18:6, 20:4 to this. Even when I was doing IF 18:6 I go nowhere near my TDEE allowance on MFP. I've now since dropped it.

But I'm finding it hard to sleep regularly. I also don't maintain a normal day schedule. I have alternating class schedule and I work one day a week. Some nights I just don't feel like sleeping. I think it's been easier for me to eat healthy than it is for me to sleep normally. I've never cheated. Not once.

I've identified that bubble tea (boba tea) has a disturbing amount of caffeine in it so I've cut that out. But I'm still finding it hard to sleep at night.

Sleep is the key. I know this now. I'm fat but I don't think I eat much more than my peers. I've been on crazy gym routines and I didn't lose weight. But I've also never had a good sleeping schedule.

Sleep is the key so I'm going to put all my effort into sleeping better.

I am back on track with my weight loss and I am getting a split I am happy with for my macros. 200.8 this morning.

>>42431026
>"counting calories doesn't work"

What would make someoen think this?

>>42435265
>either lose pretty much all your weight or die trying
win-win

So we're pretty much stuck with this loose skin and these stretch marks barring surgery right?

Does pure cocoa butter really diminish stretch marks?

>>42436396
Wanting an excuse to be fat and eat all they want.

>>42436420
theres oils and stuff you can get for stretch marks but it takes a loooong time to see results
plus in that time you jsut end up with more
i'd just stay strong with dieting/exercise and save up for surgery when youre fit enough

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>>42434912
As a beginner you put on muscle without a surplus, however that peters out pretty quickly.

It's impossible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, as you need a surplus to build the muscle beyond those initial noob gains.

The weight fluctations/plateau is from water retention as a result of you beginning weight training.

>>42430983
broscience
you weren't counting calories correctly

>>42436705
maintenance days have been known to help end plateaus though desu