/FAT/ General

should we include in the copy pasta scooby's custom meal planner? I think we should.

>>41397107
Never seen it before. Couldn't hurt though? Maybe some infographic on intermittent fasting too since that's taken off in these threads.

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IM NOT GONNA MAKE IT

>>41397087
I buy mocha chocolate bars and eat 2 small pieces a day also I've been using coconut oil to fap with , it's great !!!

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When you fuck up your day with one meal is it best to try to salvage the day or do you guys just throw it to the wind?

I blew out my goal with one meal almost and now I just wanna go whole hog.

You should be lifting from day 1. If you don't have gym access do bodyweight.

If you're a man you WILL regret not lifting day 1. You can get great noob gains and even put on muscle as a beginner. You'll raise your TDEE and wont look like a freak when you've lost weight.

Please start lifting.

>>41397303
You should salvage but depending on how bad I fuck up I keep going.

>>41397303
I only eat once a day and try to keep under 1000kcal over-shotting everything (again, I just eye measure so my 200g might be 230g or 170g), so I don't have fuck up meals.

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>>41397306
Im doing light cardio, instead, you think lifting is the way to go?
I have a basic weights set at home.

Is this a decent routine to start on?

>>41397323
I want an energy drink to get me through the day and I figure if today is already a loss I may as well.

>>41397332
Good for you.

>>41397343
There are plenty of 0 calorie energy drinks. I highly recommend NOS if you can find the 0 Cal version.

>>41397372
Yeah I always wondered if 0 cal soft drinks are really ok for you.

I drink 2 Coke Zeroes a day to quit my 3 day soda habit, am I still fucked or is it a better alternative?

>>41397333
You should do both. Don't take the light cardio away.
If you can do even half that routine start doing it.

>>41397386
Of course it isn't healthy but if you're going to get one go for 0 Cal.
It's a start but try iced tea.

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>>41397387
I just run every second day because my future job will need more cardio than strength.

I wanna look like this one day

>>41397397
What are the negative effects of it, other than the obvious tooth decay?

>>41397303
I'd say meet in the middle. Don't go fucking crazy with 9000 calories but don't kill yourself quite yet over it. If you keep doing it the next day you need to stop, evaluate your ass and stone for the sins.

>>41397398
Then start lifting immediately.

>>41397306
I'm looking in to a new gym for more lifting. Sucks I'll be paying for two memberships though.

>>41397157
We're all not gonna make it brah

Add everyone on MyFitnessPal so we can keep eachother on track!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/profile/mattlgroff

>>41397422
Stone = Atone. Fuck you phone.

>>41397087
>haven't had a cheat meal, snack or any sort of stall in the past two months
>went down to 65,7 kg
>goal is 63
You guys better stop fuckin around, this ain't no game.

>>41397451
Yeah I remember my first two months.

>>41397463
This is my third year.

Brahs i need help, going strong 3 weeks in a row now. Lost over 20 lbs, but theres cake in the fridge and i didnt eat anything today because i ate too much yesterday, what do i do? What keeps you strong in these dark hours? Also did nofap ever effect your determination? I see a pattern that whenever i break nofap when im dieting i usually break the diet soon after.

>>41397422
I think I'm getting better.
Before I used to scarf down 2000cal fast food like it wasnt shit
Now I feel physically and emotionally shit after even small junkfood binges.

I think the mental shift is significant.
>>41397432
On it brah

>>41397488
I notice if I fap the night before I gym I don't want to go.
I fap once a week now since I gym 6x a week. Great orgasm.

currently 5'8, 155lbs. got clean from heroin and quit a construction job about a month ago and i've been really sedentary and eating really carelessly, put on about 15lbs so i guess i'm not as bad off as a lot of others itt.

started getting back on the horse this past saturday. primarily all i'm eating is protein (mostly chicken) along with a fruit and vegetable smoothie in the morning. probably going to add a fiber supplement to my diet starting tomorrow.

currently using an eliptical machine to pedal 10 miles a day (five in the morning, five in the evening), going to restart convict conditioning because i lost all my muscle and i've got no access to a gym.

but it kind of sucks because i haven't dropped a single pound since saturday, kek. oh well.

>>41397535
Mate jumping off heroin is hard, you're in no worse or better starting position here. Fat is for anyone looking to lose weight. Count calories if you want to shed pure numbers.

>>41397488
Eat some cucumber with a little sprinkle of salt, or a carrot, or tomatoes. It's still calories, very little and it's better than a relapse and the following guilt.

>That feel when great value yoghurt is better than other brands of yoghurt

>>41397535
great job on the heroin anon

>weigh myself this morning
>280.0
>weigh myself after dinner
>287.6
>poop
>weigh myself again
>281.4

what the hell?

I lost thirteen pounds and eight percent body fat in four months. Does it seem like I'm on the right track? I'll be honest I slipped for a week for midterms and finals.

>>41397636
That's a lot of poop but 280 lbs is a lot of person

>>41397636
Just weigh yourself once in the morning after you pee. You'll see much more accurate progress over time. Don't stress about fluctuations during the day.

>>41397636
Sweet fucking christ you eat at the lest 5.5 pounds of food?

Sweet christ portion bruh jesus

re posting my 30 day fast log from the previous thread if anyone wants to see if i fail hard or just die https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Xi1XPMRJB6A9Ws04kNPd2V0ScMmtRovOHmJmMCxVTk/edit?usp=sharing

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>>41397783
>not teaching yourself proper nutrition to stay /fit/

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>>41397696
I only had 1777 calories today

It was about 42oz of food, not counting the milk (32oz) and water (64oz)

Pic related

>>41397827
Also I threw out the really bad stuff (like mayo), but kept some of the borderline stuff like the drumsticks and chourico until I can finish it up to clean out my freezer/fridge.

>>41397806
i am, ive been on track since jan. i weighed 320 im down to 269/270 now. with proper eating and exercise

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> tfw finally fit enough to join /fa/
Feels good brehs

>>41397333
Is this a good routine?

will getting less fat help my low t and weak erections?

>>41397931
Yes. Absolutely yes.

t. Ex 300lb fatty.

>>41397937
did you ever get tested for low T?

mine fluctuated between 150-250 ng/dL which is borderline treatable, so i cant even get testosterone shots

>>41397903
It's not bad.

>>41397947
That's sucks man! Last mine was tested was she. I was around 240ish. I think my T-levels were 335. Gonna get another test soon to make sure everything is on the up and up during my diet.

>>41397678
Don't forget to pee in your undies though

>>41397636
You lose weight when you sleep
you body is literally doing billions of reactions all night and it burns up some materials into energy

If you weigh yourself before bed and in the morning hours later, you will notice a difference. I can lose up to 2 pounds between just about bed time and right after waking up

>>41398071
>You lose weight when you sleep
not much. less than half a pound

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>>41398071
So are you saying if I sleep more, I will lose more weight?

>>41398122
Depends. I actively run hot and wake up dehydrated at least twice a night. Even in winter. Something something core temperature something something. My doc explained it to me once. I drink 2-4L a night during sleep.

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I need some help with my meals. I don't mind eating the same thing every day as long as I'm getting the nutrients.

I have ~273 calories and need 41g of protein and 20g of fiber.

I can get about 24g of protein with a whey shake, but what about the fiber?

>>41398140
True. Sleeping actively burns more energy than being awake. There's a study on it. I lost over 40kg by doing nothing but drinking and sleeping for 18-20hrs a day

>>41397947
High fat% is often associated with low Test. Eat better, lose weight, and lift; all of these will increase your test. Also try not to be stressed out, the cortisol isn't good for your T level either.

>>41396114
Does prediabetes go away? I've heard people refer to prediabetes as Diabetes on some Diabetes forums

>>41398143
https://www.livestrong.com/article/434236-why-do-you-lose-weight-after-a-nights-sleep/

Even if you burn 50% more calories than a regular person (unlikely, you would be constantly feverish), a 300 pound man would still only burn 1800 calories in 8 hours of sleep.

>>41398146
OATZ. specifically steel cut

That captcha took like 5min to solve I hate this website sometimes.

235 days
133lbs gone
and still no end in sight

It's demoralising a tells ya

>>41398216
Starting weight? Goal weight?

133lbs is great. That's almost 4lbs/week

>>41398216
sw was 310
I'm gonna keep going until I lose the belly, then I'll be happy

>>41398193
Yeah, these captchas are awful lately.

Even 1/2 cup more of oats for breakfast is only an extra 5g of protein and 4g of fiber.

I was thinking lentils but I've never had them before. 1 cup = 230 calories, 40g carbs, 16g fiber, 18g protein

>>41398216
My Man 133lbs is huge, well done. I always try to think of a certain saying:
How do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.

Don't look at the amount you've yet to lose, look at the week. 'I will lose Xlbs this week'. Weigh yourself weekly (I do it Monday mornings), and little by little you'll see the change. And sometime in the future, you'll look at the scale and realise just how far you've come. As you climb the mountain, don't look up and despair at how much farther you need to go, just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Before you know it, you'll have made it, and you'll turn around, look back and say 'wow look what I just did'.

>>41398245
Ah I've just had another look at your food. Maybe try replacing the quick oats with steel cut? They have more fibre IIRC. Also, that's a lot of protein, why is your goal so high?

>>41398176
Yes and no. You're probably more likely to get full blown beetus if you let yourself go again.

>>41398296
I did 40% carbs, 20% fat, 40% protein for macro goals.

Lads, I'm 310 lbs up from 193 lbs over the last 2 1/2 years, my main problem is discipline. When I am cutting I have such a fucking problem if I get a whiff of garbage food I'll just say "oh I can start tomorrow its no big deal" but then it does become a big deal and I fucking hate myself for it. Any tips

>>41398350
Get MFP and put EVERYTHING in there. This will help you visualise what you're eating, and it'll make you think a little bit before you eat it (it takes a bit more effort to open up your phone, search for and log an item than just putting it in your mouth).

>>41398350
for me, once I got past the 4 week barrier it was a case of
>hmm, I could order pizza tonight, but that will bring my average up and slow down progress
>nope, not worth it

can't say the same will happen for everyone, but once you're a good stretch in, it just becomes common sense to not throw it away
and even if you do fuck up, one day isn't going to change much, so long as you get straight back on the horse

>>41398366

Yeah, I'm a lazy fuck so myfitnesspal sometimes seems like a chore to use, but I know it's what needs to be done. I'm gonna try to drill it into my head and use it right after I eat every meal. Thanks man.

>>41398373

I had an idea to start meditating if I start getting a craving for shit food to help me train my discipline. I'm not sure how much it'll help but it is worth a shot I think.

>>41398330
So if I take care of myself am I still in the category of "prediabetes"?

I'm hoping that Diabetes cure that happened a few days ago ends up coming to the market within the next few years.
I need to erase my shame.

>>41398497
Pre-diabetic is literally a non-issue if you stay healthy. You can pull yourself out of it. Again you're just more likely to go back in if you regress.

i've just realized that being on a deficit means deficit from your tdee and i've been doing a 500 kcal deficit from my bmr

tfw i've actually had a daily deficit of around 1400 kcal.. now i know why i felt like shit all the time and lost 15 lbs in 3 weeks

will i die

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I'm fucking miserable that I'm not progressing very much right now even though my graph is still fairly linear I just want to reach my goaaaaaal

>>41398945
Just do a recovery week
You will feel better, eat at maintenance and retain same amount of physical activity.
Afterwards, make sure you're on a 500 cal deficit, its normal to feel like crap when cutting.

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>>41398945
>15lbs in 3 weeks

>>41398977
thanks
is 500 the max deficit one should do?
i feel like i could do 700

>>41398977
>>41398945
He doesn't even need to do that. Could just go straight to a 500 calorie deficit or even a 1000 deficit. Both would feel like way more than what he is doing now, without having to go through 2 adjustment periods.

>>41398985
The size of your deficit depends mostly on how fat you are. As a general rule I wouldn't go below 1200-1500 calories total a day. the most important thing is how sustainable it is.

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I need someone to totally rip me a new one with this.

So I've got some illnesses that are holding me back from losing weight... It's not making it impossible, but it is difficult. Pituitary, not this low metabolism shit. Anyway, I love to cook, but eating is secondary. I have no issue with cutting out calories. My problem is with exercising.

I was exercise-bulimic when I was 13 or 14. For the better part of my day I did hard-cardio. Seven hours minimum. Lost 30 lbs. in less than a month because I never ate my father's shit food, then I hit the plateau line. I got maybe 3 hours of sleep a night? Usually 2 or less, and I was perfectly functioning. Before bed and in the morning I did close to an hour of core exercises, sit ups, push ups, planks... The toning shit. I was obsessed with the number on the scale and weighed myself well over ten times a day. I just kept working out and never stopped until one day I collapsed. It was kind of warm that day, but not overly so, and my meniscus tendon was fucked up (tore it several years prior and it never healed right). All the students were running track except me and two other girls who were sick, and I was standing by the fence before I just fell down. I don't remember anything else that happened that day, although I'm alive and here so it probably wasn't too bad.

Part of me is a little worried that I'm going to fall back into the number obsession and hurt myself. I'm good with food, but I remember how much I pushed myself and how terrible I felt when I jumped on the scale for the 7th time in 24 hours and saw I gained 3 lbs. right after a meal and a lot of water... I know, right?

I can't seem to find the middle ground. I'm either maxed out or completely at zero. If someone could slap me and tell me in the meanest way to get my shit together, I would greatly appreciate it.

>>41399001
You don't need to work out to lose weight.

>>41398995
thanks
i'm 6'3 down from 235 to 220 in those 3 weeks, bf around 20% i'd say
tdee is 3200 and i cut at 1800 kcal (bmr is around 2300)

i might just do a 700 kcal deficit cut @2500 kcal

>>41399021
You should be cutting more than that. Put the tdee calculator to sedentary.

>>41399031
oh shit now it says tdee 2600
ill just cut at 2000

thanks anon

>>41398945
i lost that in 1 week, currently in 2000+ cal defecit

>>41399095
won't you just gain something back after you stupid cutting and eat at maintence again?

how do you cope with the hunger

Who else /obsessed/ with cardio here

Been running like an absolute mad man the last 4 months. I run at least 20 miles a week. I just jogged a mile and a half to my gym, did a 45 minute high intensity interval pyramid on a treadmill, and then jogged back home

I feel FUCKING AMAZING laying in bed rn and I'm gonna sleep like a drugged baby tonight

FUCK LIFTING WEIGHTS

>>41399122
i think about how beautiful i will look ;_;
having distractions also helps (vidya)

my tdee is around 3200 calories which i never plan on going back to

I unironically don't want to get big

>>41399148
especially while playing vidya i got cravings whenever i died and just sat there looking at the screen waiting to respawn

every time this happened i chewed 4 bubble gums at once lol

>>41399184
just get used to the pain then, remember why your dropping weight

having a reason besides "i dont want to be fat" is essential

and enjoy the few meals you get to have

>>41399207
>having a reason besides "i dont want to be fat" is essential
why? pretty much every other reason boils down to "i don't want to be fat"

Not a fatty but I love fasting. 24h twice a week master race

>>41399289
>48hr a week
How is that anything special though? If you sleep 7hrs a night that's already 49hrs of not fasting a week.

>>41399274
your more likely to stay motivated and more importantly not put the weight back on
think of it like this
>want to run a marathon
>to heavy to run long distance and not fuck up legs
>need to drop weight
>now can run marathon
a shit example but basically weight loss should be a way of achieving a goal and not the goal itself

I just started doing cardio, cut out most of the junk food, and am doing some body weight exercises.

I'm already noticing a difference but I have a few diet questions:

- when can I start drinking again
- how do I avoid the fast food issue (especially with friends)
- I'm planning on joining a gym instead of just doing pushups/crunches, do I need to start using protein powder

>>41399342
>when can i start dieting?
when you can afford to fit it into your diet
>how do i avoid the fast food issue?
meal prep or just get something small
>do i need to start using protein powder
that depends on what your end goal is and are you getting enough protein already

>>41399365
fuck meant drinking

>>41397087
Did a waterfast and lost 3kg after 62hrs
Best feeling of my life, not hungry at all

tfw it'll be a 14 day fast
I have calculated that my fat would keep me alive 143 days without health complications..

I recomend it, it can even reverse diabetes t2
check out intensive dietary management on google

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>>41399381
>I have calculated that my fat would keep me alive 143 days without health complications..

>>41397087
i've been eating banana pancakes for breakfast and lunch every day for a while now
just blend 2 eggs and 2 bananas, add cinnamon and vanilla, fry
shit is delicious and like four pancakes is only 234 kcal

i will ride this bananatrain until i get sick of it

>mom notices my clothes are getting too big after losing 30lbs
>she buys me loads of clothes for my birthday
>they are all my old size
>she says she used some clothes i left at her house when i move out three years ago as reference

???

>>41399365
>>41399380
I'm not missing the soda/energy drinks but I use them as mixers when I imbibe, so at the moment I'm drinking vodka and sparkling water.

My friends like to eat out a lot, but I've noticed since changing my diet that a lot of fast food just makes me sick outright - a nasty greasy feeling in my stomach.

I think I can fit some more protein into my diet, maybe eat more eggs or something.

>>41399447
Dang, that sounds really good. I might try that tomorrow. I have a few eggs I need to used up anyway. Might just whisk with my hands because I'm too lazy to get out and clean my blender

>>41397087
I just made a cheese and ham sandwich for lunch, allowed myself one handful of nachos with it, very proud of myself for sticking to that one handful

Not so proud of making a second sandwich...

>>41399520
EY FATTY BUM BUM

>>41397303
I always salvage, if I let myself go I will consume a couple of thousand calories over my tdee and I don't want to fuck up a whole weeks progress.

>>41399447
Hnnnngg sounds awesome.

Just made some lactation cookies for my partner, had to try so hard not to eat them, smelt so good.

>>41397306
Get paid on the 26th will start going to the gym the day after. Any programs you recommend?

>>41399501
then do that, protein powder is good for replacing meals though so thats always a option

>>41399544
Start with SS. Do 2 weeks of it, then on the third add in accessories like curls or incline bench. On the sixth week, change up on of the days squats for powercleans.

>>41399562
DONT LISTEN TO THIS
SS IS A TROLL/MEME

>>41399447
Gonna try this

>>41399570
don't
it's mustard gas

>>41398497
Prediabetix is a category, not an actual disease. It just means you have blood sugar problems which can lead to diabetes. Taking care of your health and it will never be a problem.

>>41399342
>when can I start drinking again
just cut out drinking entirely while you're dieting
afterwards limit yourself in regards to it, that shit is awful for you

>>41399492
Thank her anyway she cares for you. Then tell her to return them and go shopping together for new stuff.

>>41399569
r u retarded

>>41399342
No idea how much you drink but for example a whole bottle of vodka would be about 2000 calories. You should figure out yourself you want to fit that into your diet instead of eating some food.
I stopped drinking completely outside of social things even though I was a heavy alcoholic for 2-3 years, like half to one bottle of vodka a day alcoholic. Shit's just not worth it.

>>41399618
I can't cut it out entirely, I have a social life

how the fuck do you go to a bar and not drink

>>41399653
>drinking a whole bottle in one sitting

yeah no I'm not a native american, but I go out a lot with friends

huge difference between getting buzzed and outright smashed, friend

>>41399667
Well you should have said so. If you don't drink a lot it should be fine, just take it into account on the day you go drinking unless it's 100% spontaneous.
Don't forget that mixed drinks are especially heavy due to all the fucking sugar so try to drink clear shit as much as you can.

>>41399639

SS is the dumbest shit ever t b q h

>>41399667
phenibut is a great zero calorie alternative to booze

>>41399562
>>41399569
SS is ok depending on your body. If you're fat though Greyskull LP is better because of the greater focus on upper body.

>>41399569
You're an idiot. I'm doing just that and making good gains despite cutting. SS is a great starting program, however squatting everyday is retarded. As I said, add upper body accessories and switch out squatting on Day A (the day without deadlifts) for powercleans.

Former fatty here
Absolute best feeling is trying on your old clothes and seeing what a difference.

Stay with it lads

>>41399639
>>41399690
>>41399693

seriously /fat/ is made up of people who never lifted in their entire lives or just generally stupid people who don't listen

ss is shit and it's even shittier on a cut

just hit the fucking gym and do a full body workout for the first two months then switch over to a ppl routine

>hehe i squat 19 times a week

>>41399686
no thanks that makes mustard gas

>>41399716
>full body workout for the first two months

SS is a full body workout you do for the first couple months though

>>41399727
if it did id suggest you breath in a lot of it

>>41399396
you can measure your lean mass and do some math dude..

If im 23yo/f/81kg

LBM is aprox 50kg
31kg of fat
(31)(7000)=217000
>A kilo is 7000kcal aprox
217000/1500 = 144.66
>my TDEE aprox is 1500
>So my fat stores would deplete in 143 days

Suplementation with sodium, potassium, magnessium, general electrolytes is very important if you are doing a longer than a week fast.
Do a trial of 3-4 days.

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>plateau for a couple of weeks
>scale finally dips below 180
>original goal weight was 185
Thank fuck it moved, I was starting to lose it.

>>41399667
>how the fuck do you go to a bar and not drink
just get water

>>41399307
but im doing a regular 16:8 on other days

>>41399739
Hope you like T-Rex legs, cause that's what you'll get with SS. Even worse if you're fat

>>41399307
you dont know anything about fasting? Its not just for fatloss

are we still doing the weight loss competition or something like that?

>>41399791
Yup. First weigh in is on Friday. I'm doing mine in 12hrs as that'll be Friday morning for me.

>>41399784
Or you can run it for the 5 months or however long it takes to get past your noob gains and switch to a different program like you are supposed to.

I'm almost there brehs. Started at 110kg in October, now down to 79kg. Just 2 more kg and I'm set.

I started with 1300kcal per day, now I'm down to 700~900kcal per day. Two meals per day, one at 12pm and another at 5pm. First meal is rice, beans and meat (small portions), and second meal is 50g of oats and 300kcal of various fruits (usually 5 apples).
I do 1 hour of cardio per day, plus a few bodyweight exercises. Your muscle "gains" (if you can call it that) plateau very fast, because you're on a deficit.

The only downside is that some days I'm drowsy as fuck.

>>41399690
Was thinking this, I'm already obese T. rex mode so I don't feel like I need to be squatting everyday.

What should I make for dinner tonight, /fat/?

>>41399850
1 cup cottage cheese
1 cup fiber one
optional: fruit

>>41399774
I had this when I was at 198 and then at 184. It was a faulty scale. I had to step on it three times for it to register the correct weight, and it was still off by half a pound.
IIRC, those bathroom scales that you see everywhere have a disclaimer telling you to weight yourself in before the visor reads "0.0". If you let it reach that, it will add the scale's own weight to the measurement. But not all of them work like that - on some it's the other way around.

Fucking scales. Also water retention. There was this night where I ate fried ribs (cheat meal), and pissed like a horse. Lost 1.5lbs from that.

>>41399850
grilled chicken and a mix of carrots and cabbage for me.

>>41399858
I don't like cottage cheese.

>>41399868
never going to make it

>>41399868
Eat Ricotta, then. Or paper, tastes the same.

>>41399569
No it isn't you fucking retard. Please never post your uninformed opinion on my thread EVER again. SS is great for exactly as the name implies. Starting Strength. You only do it for a few months to get your foundation going, then switch to a routine aimed at your goals. Aesthetics, strength, athleticism, whatever. SS is still a great starting point.

Other guy is right though, needs a few accessories.

>>41399868
do you like being fat?

>>41399875
>>41399886
Stop bullying me please.

>>41399910
I used to hate cottage cheese. Thought it was legitimately the most disgusting thing I have ever tasted.

Then I stopped drinking soda every day and started eating right, now it's a treat. I could eat a pound of it every day.

gotta fix them taste buds dude

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>>41399910
Eat your cottage cheese already

>>41399910
Stop being fat.

>>41399693
That's almost exactly what Greyskull is

>>41399932
More or less what I based it off, mixed those two together to get a routine I liked.

>>41399826
do you work or study?
because 700 - 900 is crazy man

I hope one day I will lose weight just to shut everyone fucking mouths.

>>41400061
>one day
If that day isn't today then that day isn't going to come, ever.

>>41400068
I'm working on it

>>41400061
>to shut everyone fucking mouths
I chuckled at the irony of not shutting yours is what lead to you now having to work to shut theirs

>>41400244
Delete this.

>Tfw week long trip to the south to visit family
>No access to food scale and large fatty meals approach
How am I gonna make it?

decided today is cheat day
now to drink beer and eat fast food :^)

>>41400347
>cheat day
>not cheat meal
>likely going above TDEE on cheat day

don't do that

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>>41400244
Savage dubs

>>41400356
well its just 1 cheat meal and booze, whats the worst that could happen?

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I finish finals today and want to drink, but I heard something about drinking effecting your muscle recovery if you've worked out that day, I which I have. I need a quick rundown on alcohol and gainz pls

>>41400244
Mein gott that is cheeky.

>>41400382
Fucks proton absorption because alcohol is processed first.

Should I avoid eating oatmeal if I'm losing weight

>>41400382
alcohol actively kills gains by reducing muscle recovery

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If you guys want to lose serious weight quickly, and be super healthy (regular blood pressure, glucose level, etc.), you should do periodic fasting (i.e., every other day), and eat a 1,000 meal every other day (nonfasting days), nothing else.

Sample meal:

>3 cups of broccoli, red cabbage, tomatoes, onions, garlic, serrano pepper (in order of amount) all chopped up
>2 cups protein (chicken breast or some meat, no skin, fat trimmed), chopped
>1.5-2 cups of shredded cheese (whatever your favorite is)
>Cajun seasoning to taste (has salt, tastes good)

Cook the veggies and protein in a pan. Add cheese near finished to melt.

Easy mode. You'd have tons of free time. Or you can just eat a fast food meal every other day instead. The effect will be similar, but maybe less nourishing.

You can do whatever workout you'd like. You'd still lose massive weight and same benefits.

>>41400394
>>41400404
sounds like broscience desu

>>41400382
Drinking for one day isn't going to ruin you.

>>41400428
But Its biceps day 2day phamus

So in a week by changing my didn't from shit to veggies, little bread, and lean meat along with drinks having no calories and working out moderately 5 times in the 7 days I've lost 8.5 lbs. Is this too drastic? I went from 326 to 317.5. Plz respond. i wanna make it so badly

>>41400469
The first couple weeks everyone loses a shit load of weight. Mostly from water, some fat.

It will slow down drastically after a month or so. You should also be actually counting calories instead of just going "Well this is 'healthy' and this isn't".

Also drop diet soda, drink only black coffee, tea, and water. You'll appreciate the way things taste more if you do.

>>41400469
Great work, that's not that unusual given your weight, might slow down as >>41400505
said

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Are resistance bands a waste of time? I've got some that go up to 75 pounds I've been using and they seem to work, better than nothing i guess right?

Also does anyone know a good routine for them? Been using the one from the bodybuilding website but was wondering if there was anything better.

>>41400416
Alcohol is processed first because it's literally poison.

>>41400505
I don't drink diet sodas. What I do is infused water. But I have to admit that I'm starting to go bananas for something sugary. I did download mfp and logged yesterday's food which i thought was a lot amd because it was mostly raw veggies and 2 chicken breasts it said I was too low on calories which is weird to me but I guess I gotta eat more. Not sure how because I do get full off this healthy shit unlike Chinese takeout and mcshits.

>>41400416
ok faggot do whatever you want
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11584159

>>41400543
Vegetables, especially greens like broccoli, are fantastic for filling you up for low calories.

>>41400505
>You should also be actually counting calories instead of just going "Well this is 'healthy' and this isn't".
This really can't be understated.
Like if you think "common sense" you'll see 200 grams of rice and think it's nothing to worry about and then you hook up MyFitnessPal and find out that little bit of rice is as many calories as all 4 of your chicken skewers.
Meanwhile the same amount of say cabbage would be 1/4th as many calories.

>>41400528
Heard they are good for lateral raises since they have a constant resistance away from the movement instead of just straight down. But yeah, better than nothing I guess. I'd rather meme around with body weight exercises and cardio if I didn't have gym access though.

I have never actually seen a full routine using them on /fit/, take that for what you will

>>41400528
>waste of time
Nah, I have a well-toned relative who swears they're a grace of god. (he's an old school homo and cares about looking good)

>>41400597
>toned

>>41399759
nah, im going all in. no supplements ( me ) >>41397783

>>41400397
Uh no? As long as you don't go over your calories. It'll keep you nice and full too

>get 2 BEC croissants
>remove bottom croissant piece from each
>mash croissants together

Half the carbs, double the protein.

Who fucks with it?

I'm at work all day today but if any of the Australians want to post their weigh-ins for the /fit/ contest, I'll keep this up and check my replies end of the day.

As for the rest of you, weigh-in bright and early tomorrow and we'll determine week one's winner once I have all the results.

Anyone else - we're taking week two entries now.

Check the doc, provide me the information in thread or in comment and I'll get you added tonight.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1caYcqS_Vakx7S86gyXSemoKWFzQi8fOpXA93RxTz_o8/edit?usp=sharing

Happy travels, lads.

>>41400733
Why do you keep posting this?

>get new weights
>break the dumb bell bars
Even my weights are fat

Hey guise. I'm so fucking depressed. Thanks to /fit/, two years ago I was looking pretty good and almost had visible abs. Things were going pretty well.

A few major life changes, 1 hospitalization, a fucked up school load, and a million other personal problems later, I'm now almost 20 pounds heavier without the muscle.

I have no more friends. I blew my chance at this qt3.14 oneitis I had. I stopped going to the gym and lost it all and now I look like the chubbyfat gyno faggots I used to detest.

I now have a job but I'm still depressed as fuck and my hours are long. I wake up early and get home late. I just wanna lose some weight now goddamnit but my mind and body don't remember how anymore. Maybe later on I can take care of the depression part.

What do?

tldr; I'm a faggot who needs help (no kys sudoku pls)

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>>41400817
>I'm a faggot who needs help (no kys sudoku pls)
the answer lays right in front of you

>>41400817
The fuck do you want us to say? Calories out > calories in, simple as that.

>>41400772
I feel like you should take a picture of the scale to report in. But lying really only hurts yourself and winning achieves nothing.

>>41400774
jelly of my nutrition gainz?

guys i know this isn't really /fat/ related but you helped me a lot recently so ill still ask

i need to run 3km(around 1.5 miles) in 13 minutes 15 seconds.
so far i can do it in 15 minutes

how good is running every day in the morning? i figured maybe twice a week regular jogging for 30 minutes, twice a week running the 3km in how fast i can and twice a week 30 minutes HIIT

>>41400817
Losing weight:
Count calories. MyFitnessPal is god tier.
Cut out all shit like sodas/candy/cakes and find the low calorie stuff that you enjoy eating.

Getting fit:
Start going to the gym again or if you cannot bring yourself to do so then at least do a bodyweight routine at home or cardio.

>>41400870
do 1.5 mile runs at a comfortable speed to get used to the distance 1 day and do 10 minutes fast the other day

>>41399693
So in essence you're not doing SS.

it feel like from the way anons talk in this general that i keep on talking to the same people
would anyone be up for a /fat/ discord?

>>41400988
No

>tfw you just did your first real pullup

good feel, happy I lost enough weight to make it happen

>>41397087
>231lbs
>6'2"
>WAN 41"
>NAN 16"
>body fat 27%
>fat mas 62%
>lean mass 169
>status?: Obese fatfag.
Halp.

>>41399001
if you're a female you literally do not need to work out to lose weights. if anything you can find a muscle you genuinely like working out. i like doing triceps so i always focus on them and it makes me happy. also delete any social media. like tumblr or instagram and stay away from fitness girl youtubers. they'll poison your brain.

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>>41400811
>break the dumb bell bars
fucking how

>>41401133
Got some 5kg weights and put them on old bars made for around 14kg at the most.

>>41399342
nigga some fast food is fine. especially taco bell, just depends on how you order it. a cheesy beefy supreme whatever is going to be like a thousand calories. but a black bean burrito, hold the cheese add guacamole and tortilla strips is like 400.

>>41399927
Not that anon, but the texture of cottage cheese is too unpleasant for me. The taste doesn't bother me so is there a way I could add it to my diet where it wouldn't make me gag? Does anyone make a shake with it?

>>41401179
Add marmite

>>41401179
why would you even eat and waste money on a food you don't like? it's fucking cheese dude, it isn't healthy for you. but if you are so inclined to use cottage cheese, blend it into a smooth paste and use it as a spread on sandwhiches and filling for lasagna

Slept for like 9 hours last night wtf

Weighing 5 oz less than yesterday

>>41400866
kek , no
but you do you anon . if it works for you great !

Getting into a bad habit of eating at a deficit but eating junk.

>>41401300
>but eating junk.
go through your house and garbage all the junk food

>>41398497
Type II Diabetes already has a cure. It's called intermittent fasting.

Diabetes is not a blood sugar disease. High blood sugar is just a symptom of the disease that doctors have treated (wrongly) by prescribing synthetic insulin.

The actual problem of diabetes is insulin resistance, caused by too much glycogen being stored in your liver, causing your body to need to produce more insulin to handle all the refined shit you're shoveling down your gullet. As this cycle continues, you keep producing more insulin, and keep becoming more and more resistance to it.

This is why people who get full blown beetus always have to increase insulin, never go down. Unless....

They do something to address the problem, which is the glycogen stores. This is achieved by intermittent fasting. Fasting causes you to burn off all the glucose in your blood, then some of the glycogen in your liver. By doing this over and over, you can eventually deplete you glycogen storage to normal levels when combining fasting with a LCHF diet.

>t. Dr. Fung

In all seriousness, my dad was on the verge of going on insulin, and I was pre-diabetic. I started on IF, and then got him and my mom started. He went to the doc the other day and she said if he keeps it up they will be able to take him off his blood sugar pills as well and there is no need for insulin at this time.

>Would you like to know more?

Look up Dr. Jason Fung on youtube, then spend the next 12 hours watching every video you can find. You will learn a lot.

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>tfw it was my brother in law's birthday

i feel filthy for going over

>>41400988
No. That'll just kill the thread and the quality will be a bunch of cocksucking fat faggots jerking it to the regulars with stupid FUCKING meme instead of any actual discussion.

>>41401318
>tfw you were still at a deficit on your birthday because your mom put nuts in the cake and you're allergic to them

>notice the amount of food (greens on my plate) are bigger now than before
I suspect i'm doing something wrong but the calories check out.

>>41400863
I'm not against it but personal accountability is kind of the point. If people want to cheat in a no stakes, no reward contest that's on them.

>>41401318
No anon, you did great for a birthday party. No beers? That's a huge win in my book. Well done. Just eat 14 calories less tomorrow if you're honestly worried about it. Your body doesn't care about how many calories you eat per day. It's more about how many calories in vs. calories out over a period of a few weeks that makes a difference.

Godspeed anon, you're going to make it.

>>41401300
This is why I hate calorie dependence. It won't help you deal with your harmful eating problems altogether. Throw away the junk and do research on fasting (then fast).

>>41401348
Hey Apple,

Just an FYI, I'm not adding anyone from the group on MFP, because I have all my normie family added on there, and they just wouldn't understand fitizens.

I will, however, report my weight on Friday via thread or any contact info you wish to provide.

Thanks for putting the contest together.

it's a fucking calorie tracker, not a god damn social tool what the fuck why would I want friends on there?

>>41401400
To give each other pats on the back and shit. Positive environments help people succeed....until they cheat and disappear forever in shame.

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>>41401300
go get some veg anon , develop good eating habits . your body will thank you .
cabbage salad ftw

>>41401382
No worries, dude. I'm in the same boat.

>>41401435
I'm on a 200 day streak and have never even touched any of the social functions on that hunk of shit.

Your positive reinforcement is just attention seeking, which I can confirm by your fucking namefag.

>>41401461
I got to 300 days before I added anyone. It's just fun reinforcement bro.

>>41401473
what's going to be fun is pretending I never spent any time in this thread once I get ripped and doing nothing but shit talking fatties for the rest of my hardbodied life

>>41401461
1. We decided to trip for contest reasons. I only trip in this thread and only when it's necessary. This was a better alternative than a discord.

2. Just because one thing works for you doesn't mean that's how it is for everyone. My wife and I started to get fit and everyone saw our progress, so people in her family and mine started wanting to get fit. We have started a huge movement in both our families and we've added "friends" on MFP to help encourage other people. I don't have any other social media, and I don't give a shit about validation from anyone other than my wife, which I can get without a smartphone.

3. Stop being such a massive faggot.

>>41401487
you sound like a pleasant person to be around

>>41401487
Sounds like you have some insecurities if you care about what others think of you so much.

>>41401487
Wow, you are a huge cunt if you think that way.

Who has the image of the fat guy who started talking like this on fit a while back then got put in his place? I don't have it saved. It needs to be posted for this asshat.

>>41401487
You sound really insecure. I'll be helping other fatties get fit once I make it.

>>41401549
This.

>>41401461
Wow I don't use MFP, I just understand why the social app is there. The last part wasn't directed at you, tightass lol

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>>41401364
Started in february at 84kg and now im at 76, but i don't see much difference, am i gonna make it? Also, i feel that im losing weight really slow

>>41401569
woops didn't mean to reply to that post

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>>41401487
careful with that edge anon

>>41401569
There is a definite difference anon. I'm the same way. We all have a little bit of body dysphoria when losing weight.

8kgs in 3 months isn't terrible, especially since you're not mega fat. You could go faster, but if you're comfortable at this pace I wouldn't change much. Just keep being consistent about it, and lift if you aren't already.

>>41401601
yeah, im going to the gym, but only ~3 times a week for like 2hours because of work stuff, and im doing 1 hour of cardio and 1 of lifting.

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tfw fat and depressed.
196cm, 115kg
i was 140kg in January and SSRIs killed my Appetite when i started taking them back then

I couldnt get myself to eat any more than a can of tomatoe soup and a couple of wholegrain crackers a day

tfw this is less that 400 calories

tfw ive been on this diet for months and cant stop. if i died no one would find out untill my rotting corpse stenched up the staircase of the appartement building.

pic related its about 1/4th of what i eat daily

>>41401884
Sad man. I know how you feel though, I'm pretty lonely, KHV, and I spent the last 5 years doing a pointless degree. Lost all my friends in that time and now only have a handful of people I talk to besides my parents. Getting fit was the best thing I've done in that time by a mile, lost about 100lbs, probably extended my life a good 10 years at least.

Keep up man, things will get better.

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>Tuesday weigh in at 267
>see dentist Wednesday, go to work immediately after, can't go to gym and didn't drink my usual water
>check out new gym today, my usual routine, weigh myself before shower
>262
>you guys weren't kidding about the water weight meme

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>get on scale
>finally below 280lbs

>get on scale
>finally below 200lbs

still could drop another 20-40 though.. damn love handles and stomach pudge

>>41400410
Today is my fasting day. Doing one day fasting, one day eating. So far doesnt feel so bad, actually feels better than Intermittent fasting as im not hungry as all. even did some HIIT cardio at the gym this morning.

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what's going on with my stomach? i wasnt sucking it in but it feels/looks much tighter despite only losing 4 pounds

>>41402056
Water weight

>>41401974
I'm so fucking envious. 220 was my goal but now I'm here I want below 200. End goal will probably be 180.

>>41401179
do greek yogurt instead. add little honey. same about of protein.

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>>41397087
I accidentally ate those new chicken nugget things from taco bell

>>41402072
yeah, my starting goal was 200...

but, now that I'm here I realize I'm still fat.. so now it's 180...

hopefully when I get there I'll start looking good.

>>41398350
Start 23:1 intermittent fasting, eat one 1500 kcal meal every day. It's much easier to stick to it, since eating is not spread out over the day, so cheating feels worse.

>>41401961
>>41401974
each day gets better anon. keep at it.

>>41399122
There was a man who went on a 384 day fast supervised by doctors, he only consumed vitamin and mineral supplements, and he didn't gain the weight back afterwards, so there is hope for that anon.

>>41399274
I'm doing it for a girl I like.
Literally nothing in my life has lit a fire inside me like the way this chick who doesn't like me the way i like her does
They say you're not supposed to do it for a girl but I don't care, I've never been more motivated to do anything in my life than I am to see her

>>41402092
>i accidentally got in my car
>i accidentally drove a few miles to taco bell
>i accidentally waited a few minutes in line to order
>i accidentally waited another minute or two for my food to be ready
>i accidentally handed them a credit card/cash
>i accidentally ate them all in my car because I have no self control

There was nothing "accidental" about it

>>41402092
Did you accidentally drive there?

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Am I gonna make it?

>>41402063
I figured that came off already. Pic on the left is a weight loss of 16 lbs, pic on the right is weight loss of 20.

I've been trying to get more fiber (oatz) in my diet so maybe thats it. I shit like 3 times yesterday.

>>41402104
Height?

>>41402176
>i accidentally ate them all in my car because I have no self control

Well that's not true I waited until I got home to eat them.

>>41402199
6'3

I'm 6'3 and 345lbs. 6 days ago I was 365. I've been literally doing nothing but keto and eating 1-2 meals a day max. Also LOTS of water. That shit will clean your body the fuck out. I'm trying to get under 300. I got lots of muscle from football and lifting over the years.

>>41400374
>>41400347
Drinking booze is okay, because being the only person who doesn't drink is shitty, but don't fucking eat fast food.

>be 24
>ex athlete (not pro, but close)
>now weigh 260 at 5'11
>exercise semi regularly
>have trouble dieting
>thinning slowly but not losing an ounce
>not sure I want to lose weight or just go bearmode

>>41402353
>beer has 150+ calories
>you can easily have 4-5 in a night out
>will probably eat 1500+ calories on top of that

this is a fucking meme, right?

>>41399021
1800 is fine, and you didn't lose 15. maybe 10, water weight initially is a lot

>>41399139
You're gonna look like shit.
T. Someone who lost 80lbs doing fuck loads of cardio and no weightlifting

>>41402397
>athlete
>under 6'
>wanting to go bearmode
what were you a bowler?

>>41402536
>Martial artist
>smalltime mma
Learned fast that height matters little

>>41402564
what fighting weight?

>>41402570
176
sometimes as low as 150
sometimes as high as 180. Depending on who I wanted to match next

>>41399538
> for my partner
Are lesbians anon? Fags with a milking fetish? Either way, it's hot

>Post pics of the lactation

>>41402604
well I don't think 100 excess pounds of fat looks good on anyway.. so, you're defo gonna have to lose some weight, but I don't think bear mode would be that bad of an idea, provided you still lose at least 50 pounds and reassessed the situation

>>41399667
> muh social life
If. Your social life revolves around drinking, it's not much of a life. Find better people with better interests. I go out with friends all the time, dirt biking, sledding, snowboarding, to the lake, camping, whatever. It never involves or requires drinking

>>41402246
You sound hot. Well, future you does.

>>41402642
probably. Im not sure bearmode is for me but some extra muscle mass would certainly be nice

starting 320lb~
march 25th 2017~
277.6lb this morning
lift 3 days a weak P/P/L
cardio 15 mins after each lifting session
1500-1700 calories a day
starting BMR was around 2700 so was I'm on a 1k+ deficit.
This thread is nice to read through!

>>41399001
I guess you could try to focus on building (some) muscle besides losing weight, because that would make starving yourself and working out all day counterproductive. It would also make you look better than those skinnifat and spooky skele bitches.
Also, checking >>41399999 and >>41400000

>>41402186
critique pls

>2017
>Not taking DNP

>>41402735
ur skinny fat. If you used to be fat good job you should start lifting.

if you haven't done anything yet read the fucking sticky.

making it is a choice

>>41402721
I started Feb 11th at 328
Lift 3 days a week
10k steps per day
eating 1k-1.3k on 18:6 IF
Today weighed in at 280.2

Tell me your secrets anon, because I don't know how you lost that fast. I thought I was cruising.

Water fast?

>>41402735
you are skinny fat with no muscle, go lift weights

>>41401537
I want to see that too.

>>41402784
>>41402791
:( i'm not flexing, i've been lifting but that's about a ~60 lb weight loss pic

>>41402816
good job man. Keep at it.

>>41402816
Then do a side by side or before and after numbnuts

>>41402816
you dont even look like you lift, flexing wouldn't change that

Maybe your calories are too low?
I'm 6 foot 1 and have 5g of creatine a day,
This is a typical day of eating for me: http://i.imgur.com/ADwJY43.png

>>41402836
>imgur link

what the fuck?

>>41402840
y u mad homie

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>>41402851
You realize this is an image board right?

>>41402748
Isnt that very dangerous ?

also generally asking what one could take to obliberate bodyweight. ideally without killing yourself.

>>41402861
>what one could take
less food

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>>41402857
yes, but i like imgur

>>41402861
See a doctor to get Adipex. Preferably some small time clinic that won't give you shit about it. It doesn't make you lose weight, but it suppresses your appetite quite well.


Alternatively, a few days of fasting can also kill your appetitie.

>>41402861
Yes, DNP is extremely dangerous. Don't let these edgelord faggots fool you. They may lose weight fast but will lose their vision and die of cancer in 15 years. That's if they don't OD first. If you look at the DNP pastebin (I don't have link) it says YOU WILL DIE at least 6-7 times.

There is nothing you can "take" to obliterate fat except to take in less calories than you burn. Intermittent fasting helps too.

>>41402882
and we don't like you

>>41402868
faggot, im >>41401884


if i ate less i would die

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>>41402861
lil bit

>>41402952
That happened from DNP? How?

NEW
THREAD

>>41402986

>>41401129
"stay away from fitness girl youtubers. they'll poison your brain." Also, don't admire them for attempting a 10,000 calorie challenge. It irks me that so many viewers praise them for accomplishing the feat.

>>41397409
More hunger, your taste buds gets bombarded

>>41397398
damn. Goals

>>41397398
Why does he wear the mask?

>>41402973
he took more then 1200 mg because instead of doing research he kept eating it on day 2. effects of DNP dont show till like day 3 or 5 so you take your dose once a day, not multiple ones because you dont get instant results

>>41403932
Yeah but why did they have to cut his leg open? Doesn't DNP just overheat you? How does cutting his leg open help?

>>41403977
they cut his muscle out cuz it was baking. he survived the whole thing. dude was crazy too

>>41397303
I wouldn't say salvage, but try to eat at maintenance or around