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Calum has good chest.

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Link this image to any comments by nattys who wander in here.

>>41331211
for what purpose?

>>41331194
arms overpower everything. needs more balancing.

raw ground beef

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ANZU

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Video pops up in recommended, claims this is from one cycle of clen.

What kind of bullshit is that, clen cycle is 2 weeks and the progress is marginally better than natty.

> going under maintenance by 1000kcals
> barely losing weight (maybe gaining water?)
> just about to eat 300kcal dinner (chicken + broccoli)
> stomach is hungering for food all of a sudden
> faurk

>>41331429
sorry what. hes obviously not just on clen.

>>41331429
what if...... a clen cycle..... could also be 10 weeks long?
damn......
it all makes sense now.

>>41331465
Who takes clen for 10 weeks.

>>41331464
I know thats why it is clearly not representative of clens effect.

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Why did my casein turn into tapioca
Messed up

>>41331464
>1k cal deficit

Thats nothing
Youre on steroids, do a real cut

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I just realized I ever got an answer for my retarded question from last thread.

Is pct for a long test cycle gonna be the same as one you'd do for a short cycle, or would it need to be longer to account for the longer amount of time your natural test has been suppressed?

>>41331562
You only really extend PCT if you've been on for a long time. 6 months plus. Even for 20 week cycles 40/40/20/20 is fine, some people would say add in HCG but it's unnecessary or some people say to add in another 20.

but everybody responds differently.

>>41331562
depends whats long for you.
I would say PCT for 12 weeks or 20 weeks is the exact fucking same.

Anything longer than that and yeah you should bump up PCT protocoll

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>>41331544
>casein turn into tapioca
Make boba tea with it. Brings all the Asian QTs to my yard, and they're like it's better than yours, damn right it's better than yours.

>>41331429
>cut to reveal muscle
>suddenly ripped
whoaowwawow magic??

>>41331497
who takes something olny for 2 weeks?
I would take it for 10, taper up, add ketotifen once receptors down regulate too much. and bam, you are golden.

No gf sucks. Dick going to explode.

God why did you make me unfinished?

How big do arms have to be to look big on a big frame at 6'.
Mine are like 18.5 and they look too small imo, in many poses. I think I need 20s to look really good. Mainly just because my back and chest are really big, but shit.

So ive been taking sdrol about an hour before my work outs which is usually at the same time but it looks like ill have to do early morning workouts this weekend so should I keep taking it as a pwo or just take it at the same time I normally do?

So I'm definitely overweight but not to the point I have a gut. 20%+

I am worried about gyno. On 300mg test enth E3D. .5mg Arimidex E3D.

My nips look more or less the same as always although maybe a change in puffiness. I am hoping that I will lose bodyfat before gyno becomes an issue. My diet is 90% clean (dirtiest thing is a bagel pre workout).

I know gyno thrives in fat environments... fuck I am paranoid.

What is usual Ralox procedure like? Might pick some up just in case.

>>41331834

>>41331858
don't matter much, just pwo.

>>41331877
you are always fatter than you think, and fatter than you want to think.

>>41331877
puffiness and soreness doesn't necessarily mean gyno is coming to rape you, it might pass, but there's a chance and you shouldn't take any risks

>>41331850
>Mine are like 18.5
>Roiding for this

>>41331904
Pwo is what I shall do then.

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>>41331913
>>41331904
Is this gyno

Keep in mind it looked relatively the same a month ago while natty.

I'm 245lbs atm 6'1 and dropping 1-2lbs a week.

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>>41331690
Fu k women
Bunch of entitled worms

>>41331980
Feel under the nipple for the sensitive gland, fatty

>>41331980
slight, but don't worry about it

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>>41331992
Unrelated, but tried to use iqdb to find the source for that image.


I didn't find it.

>>41331939
yeah man, roiding for 18.5 inch arms is pretty fucked up.
I had 19s natty, shredded.....

>>41331980
pretty fat.
if it is gyno then there should be a hard lump behind your nipple.
If it is growing you should feel a bit of pain there. Hurts pretty bad to the touch desu.

>>41332026
>>41332010
>>41331992
Had to push in a bit to feel anything lol but doesn't hurt whatsoever... can barely feel "it"

>>41332065
if it is anything larger than maybe a pea than you do have gyno.
A small gland is normal.

>>41332081
I honestly don't know what I'm looking for. I feel something but it's fairly amorphous and not larger than my fingertip and I don't want to touch it too much and start some positive feedback loop.

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>>41331992
>Bunch of entitled worms
Even the innocent QT ones from Chinese orphanages, jerry-san?

how the fuck am i supposed to add some mass to my chix ass

she already got it going she just need a lil more fat and muscle

>made sure im 12 houds away from my last dnp dose for work and am decently hydrated
>have a terrible headache cause ive been sleeping like 15 hours split over the day

just cant fucking win lads

>>41332019
Those are all decent pics tho

>tfw cant stop looking at tranny prostitutes

>>41332095
Stick the one arm near the nipple straight out to the side
Use your other hand to squeeze any sensitive peas under the nipple
Youre probably just fat

>>41332162
Grind up some orals and put them in her food.

Creepy? Yes. But I remember seeing someone else did this and his gf saw some pretty good gains.

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>>41332161
>innocent
Probably sucking dick for pleasure and profit before age 8

>>41332162
Have her lift and eat
I know itll be hard to get her to do anything but complain and hunt for fat cocks but I bet if you really make her feel bad about herself she might try for one day for once

Second pin of questionable gear. Didn't shake like a bitch. Will update on pip

>>41332334
Hope it's not too bad, "questionable gear", is it bathtub shit?

>tfw took 160mcg of Clen and 40mg duromine

It's been good knowing you all, before my heart explodes

>>41332618
>clen

stay away from saunas

>>41332278
why do you enjoy posting animated child porn so much

>>41332591
Just an unverified source. So may as well be bathtub brew.

>>41332258
What orals... she aint scared to do what it takes to look fly

What was masT's hair stack again?

Saw, Pumpkin and Biotin?

>>41332785
Anavar
>you won't just get winstrol

>>41332810
He said to use the semen of men with full heads of hair staved off hair loss..

>>41332728
It's not his fault kids are so fuckable

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>>41332876

m-muh hair

>>41332977
Embrace the high test baldness

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>>41332992
n-no
muh m-muh hair

>>41332977
get better genetics.

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>>41333035
but my dad and his parent have thiccccccc as fuck hair. his dad despite being 80+ is still rocking a thicc haircut. I always had to thin out my hair at the barber when I was younger because it also were rather thiccc.
my mother have shit tier hair genetics however and it seems it caught up to me in the end

>>41333059
How old? What's your cycle? There might be time to save you yet anon.

>>41333107
23. test tren cruise levels atm

I bought the meme oil kit and a swimming cap but I haven't bothered to try it out once

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>>41332728
It makes little jerry happy
Im trying to spread the good word

>>41333059
I was balding before roids
Its maintained a steady state throughout
Mast sheds the hardest, but it seems mostly temporary, same with tren (the only hair actually lost was already dead)

I'm trying to decide whether to use dbol for two weeks to kickstart my FIRST cycle... Would it be a waste and should I stick to just 500test instead? What could I hope to gain and keep from it after?

>>41333232
I get the neko cat ear shit. But the tails just gross me out.

can I take sleepy antihistamine pills along with melatonine pills + dnp

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>>41333341
They're cute
And cute is anabolic

>>41333317
Gets androgens in ya when the test us building
Also makes sure you have ai on hand

>>41333410
nvm I did it
see u on the other side if something goes wrong

Does coming off ephedrine give you a rebound appetite effect, or just the hunger you would normally experience, after 3 weeks of use?

>>41333565
Yes all the hunger of starving yourself for three weeks come rushing back all at once, effectively raping your stomach.

>>41333410
you SHOULD be taking antihistamines regardless while on dnp

melatonin has no negative sides at all, you can take it to help you fall asleep... or you can just munch on more benadryl

>stain around my nipple

a-am I fucking lactating reee

>hey I haven't looked at /plg/ in a while
>wow it's fucking cancer

There's so much fucking dick measuring it's astounding.

>>41334164
powerlifting is for people too fat for aesthetics

>>41333113
there's such a thing as a cruise level of tren?

Are you a sexual monster?

>>41333232
How does this happen?
How do you go from a normal, hentai is kind of hot. To full blown animated child porn and tranny hookers?
From a little strange to full blown completely crazy, almost rapist mode?

>>41335064
>How does this happen?
>he says, in a thread discussing the use of anabolic steroids on a forum for sex and fitness enthusiasts that is part of a website built for social undesirables and weird pariahs

>>41335086
Pedos are over at /b/ I thought.
/fit/ is where the more "normal" people are. Of course a lot of socially retarded guys, but not like that.
Maybe some poeple just come over from there and think roids might help them, but then they go from pedophile to big pedo.

But jerry was not always like that, it got progressively worse. At least from what I have seen from reading 1-2 threads per week, most weeks.

>>41335086
>>41335206
I like to think jerry is just a caricature.

>>41335239
he is not though.
He said himself that this place is where he is the most honest.

>>41335248
Yeah and I want to be in denial.

>>41331877
Typical ralox is 60mg for ten days and 30 mg ed after.

I just take 60 ed

>>41335206

As his self appointed stalker, I can assure you jerrysama is fucked up but ily tho.

>>41333232
Jerry you always have the best ecchi

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"starve", cardio, raw minced beef and dnp guy here. no one cares but

making progress
day 0 86.4 kg after first dnp intake on non-empty stomach
day 2 84 kg in the morning
day 3 83.6 kg
day 4, today, 83 kg

>>41335660
is this the new olive oil anon meme

>>41331877
4 months of ralox at 40mg per day. Elongate if necessary.

>>41336008
not a meme

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>>41335064
Ive been cohabiting with my pillow wife for years
Its not progressively worse
Its the natural order of things

>>41335239
Lol
Nah dog
This is true

>>41335660
Did you deplete your glycogen first

>>41336180
>Did you deplete your glycogen first
not entirely but now it definitely is

>got some free dbol for my trouble after receiving bunk cialis

all according to keikaku >:)

If I go to the grocery store to buy wine at 7am will they think im an alcoholic

>>41336192
Thats p decent then

>>41336197
link that image for me havent seen it in a while

>>41336218
can you even buy alcohol before 10am?

>>41336256
Not hard liquor but beer n wine only not midnight to 6am

>popped 20mg of sdrol and 30mg anavar
>Went to walk for my coffee
>Calve pumps like crazy
>No taurine

Looks like im going to be that guy who brings some sips to the gym.

>>41336180
Are you at least seeking help?

>blow nose
>get nose bleed
ah yes

>>41336218
>If I go to the grocery store to buy wine at 7am will they think im an alcoholic
Why would you care what some fucktard working at a grocery store thinks?

>>41336323
>seeking help?
Mother fucker this is /fraud/ its the equivalent of mentally ill winos meeting at a park bench.

You're obsessed with a skeleton and Jerry likes to cuddle pillows and suck dick

>>41335265
understandable

I've recently gotten some hold of a bunch of medical test e.

I've been lifting consistently 3x a week for about 1.5 years now, so I have added quite a bit of muscle-mass, but I'm still at somewhere probably between 20-30% bf, so quite fat.

I'm not super-concerned with gaining more mass, mainly with leaning out and preserving the mass I have.

I'm pondering if I should design a test e. only cycle, but the question is what the best overall high-level strategy would be for me. Cutting during a cycle? Cut first to a low bf% and then do a cycle while eating surplus?

I know fat cells are participating in the process of aromatase, but does that actually mean that leaning out first will cause less test to be converted to estrogen? After all, it is also common wisdom that leaning out does not reduce the number of fat-cells, only their size. Will they become less active?

Does anybody else have any experience with cutting cycles, particularly with test e. and from a somewhat high bf%?

I know various other things like anavar are often recommended for cutting, but I probably can't get my hands on anything other than test e., since this stuff is extremely tightly regulated in my country + it's difficult to get stuff that I can be sure of to be 100% legit. The test e. I got is pharmaceutical and the person I'm getting it from has been taking it for a long time, so I'm fairly confident in the quality & purity.

>>41336410
jerry also has a practically confirmed psychiatric illness.

Just applied the meme oil kit for the first time and wearing a swimming cap to keep it in place. Would post a picture if 4chan wasn't ridden with weirdos saving pictures of people they don't know.

>>41336633
At least you don't have an anon who is literally trying to find out your real name.

>>41336640
why is that happening?

>>41336633
please tell the meme oil kit

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>>41336323
For what?
Being radical?

>>41336399
Im friends with the guy who opens

>>41336486
You should cut
On roids could do a much harder cut

>>41336627
Stay jelly of my p u r e l o v e~

>>41336754
I don't recall the exakt meme kit but I bought most of it, including PSO, castor oil, peppermint oil, coconut oil, almond oil

>>41336694
Don't know. Some cunt just decided I was the fancy of his desires

>>41336758
Yeah, I definitely will cut, the question is mainly whether I should do it on test e or not....

>>41336758
Pls jerry

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>>41336877
You want to cut faster, or grow better afterwards?

Fairly subjective. If you have enough test, get on a cruise dose, cut hard, then bulk out of it all on test

>>41336883
You mad, you mirin, you jelly?
You mad.
You mirin.
You jelly.

>>41336840
And what is the meme oil kit supposed to do. Improve hair?

>>41336986
meme oil kit is supposed to repair and moisturize your scalp. I think my hair thinning started with the dandruff I got on mast+tren, just because the scalp became so dry. and you can't regrow hair on such a shitty scalp.

for hair regrowth however you're supposed to intake pso, saw palmetto and biotin and use keto schampoo.

source/where I learned this: memers in this thread

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Where do you guys pin? I have literally no flexibility so I can't turn enough to pin glutes. Are upper outer quads the next best thing?

>62 degrees outside
just kill me

>>41337065
I always pin at ventroglutes and have zero issues every time

>>41337042
>>41336986

its not a meme you degenerate fucks. I have absolutely shit tier hair genetics and my hair got fucking thicker while being on steroids using this "meme" oil kit

>>41337065
Delts n chest too
Lats are supposed to be decent but Ive never done it

>>41337106
>thicker hair
>without emu oil

>>41337065
Use your bis

>>41337125
i have used emu oil in the past and i think it actually did help.

The thing with emu oil is that it has be processed from Emus that have lived in "natural habitat" or atleast were fed with their natural food supply.

Emu oil retrieved from Emus that were fed like cattle isnt gonna do shit. I was fed up with finding a product that wasnt lying about their source so yeah...

But yeah emu oil is awsome, not just for hair. For skin too

>>41337106
for now it seems like a meme, but perhaps the swimming cap meme oil kit will work

>>41337065
i have been pinning my quads for 6 months straight with a 27g needle. I hate the idea of pinning any other muscle group

>>41337163
yeah everything is a meme even when people do it for 2 years straight like a guiena pig, stay bald, hairlet

>>41337171
>27g needle

That must take like a full minute of injecting.

>>41337189
desu thinner needles are fine injecting but a bitch to draw

>>41337106
OK so tell me what's in it then, don't horde valuable trade secrets to yourself

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So I re-evaluated my TDEE (scooby's) and its lower than I thought, although I was always going under my old TDEE anyways. Currently its 3400kcals. I lift 4 days a week and some cardio which is inconsistent.

So I'll be changing the cut to 2800 kcals +- depending on cardio.

Ugh. I just cant lose any mass in my legs. Or my upper body. Or anywhere.

Im definitely leaner so I must have picked up some water from the steroids, although I dont think I look bloated. Leaner yet wetter.

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Redpill me on carbs. Specifically processed carbs. Obviously they are not the staple of my diet, I eat oatmeal for breakfast, but I like to have a bagel or two pre workout. Since were on steroids we don't need to worry about fats for hormones right? I'm still getting plenty of fat.

A generic asiago bagel apparently has 330kcals, but bagels from a deli can have upwards of 350-400. They taste so good I feel like they gotta have more than that but maybe not.

>>41337189
>>41337271

i draw with 20g.

injecting with 27g takes 20 secs. And even if it takes 1 minute. Its 1 minute of my life every 72 hours so i dont care

>>41337272
literally what >>41337042 said

I take:
3000mg PSO orally daily
9000mg Saw palmetto oil daily orally
10mg Bition daily
I apply coconut/argan/castor oil to my scalp
I only wash my hair once a week, with keto shampoo

And i do scalp exercises (raise eyebrows/wiggle ears backwards) to increase bloodflow to my scalp (the exact same fucking thing Minoxidil is doing, which you know is legit)

>>41336935
my natural test is something like 550ng/dL. I mainly want to cut faster and stay at low bf%. I'm really not too concerned with growing too much. If I could just keep what I have now at a lower bf%, I'd be quite happy.

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Where is masT
Where is bimbo
Where is chem

Daily reminder that you are pathetic scum.

>>41337305
>>41337358
Who is this semen demon?

>>41337457
>I don't fraud during my prime years of life with little sides thereafter
who's pathetic?

>>41336486
Holy shit a super educated question. Welcome, anon!

Most would say cut first.

I'd go for it from the get-go if you were already pretty well trained, and cut on a low dose like 200/250.

>>41337065
Quads usually, sometimes delts if it's something that can give pip because for some reason pip is worse in my quads for me.

Problem is I get gushers a lot more in my delts.

I use 1 1/2" 18g needles to draw and one day because I hate myself so much I'm just going to use the same needle to inject because fuck this gay earth.

>>41337142
Never. I posted a pic of some weird blood thing I got in my bi for injecting there and everyone laughed at me.

>>41337457
What exactly is pathetic?

I got a mole removed on my forearm and now I have this big red fucking circle on my arm 1cm in diameter.

Does anyone know how to reduce redness of this little cirlce and make it look like normal skin?

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>>41337473
Rin Tohsaka

>>41337457
>>41331211

>>41337515
thanks, I'll consider cutting on a low dose.

>>41337579
I don't remember that outfit, what the fuck

>>41337612
She becomes an archer class servant in Fate/Go under the name Ishtar

>>41337612
>>41337644
Fate has a ton of alternate storylines yeah

My source for clen became unreliable. Can anyone recommend someone or somewhere?

No, fuck off ^

>>41337358
Still better than fat
Keep fat under 60g a day at least

And youre on steroids cut harder dummy

>>41337442
Cut on the test then, youll maintain much more mass
Dont need to go nuts on the dosage either

>>41337612
Sge became a larger slut

>Appt with a doc in an hour
>Looking to get my levels checked out and see what they can do for my test/trt program
>Im turning 30 next year, my test or stress levls/ etc... have been fucked up

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Wish me luck boys. Second day of tryouts today and the girl I've been getting ready for tryouts with for the last 2 months got sick yesterday

I have practiced for 20 minutes with this new girl and we perform in like 2 hours

I'm nervous brehs

>first day of taking PCT also

>>41338241
Good luck

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>>41338241
>first day of taking PCT

>>41338241
ah, thats actually cute. you could be the MC of an anime.

>>41338241
>roiding for this

>>41338241
>roiding for this

>>41331175
200 lbs here
running 1 gram of tren 500 mg test e 700 mg equipose here

>>41332019
Artist Minori Kenshirou, circle Minori Kenkyuujo

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>>41336371
Shit that's an everyday occurance for me.

>>41338915
lower your bp, or you will die 10 years sooner. seriously, fix this. You are unhealthy as fuck.

and more of the girl.

>>41338513
Wtf are you like 5ft dead or something?

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Hey I just made a thread about this but figured here would be a good place to ask too. How do I tell if my shady cheap eBay snake oil gypsy sarms are legit? Ordered $120 worth of mk677 and wanna make sure it's not cut with prohormones... pic related

>>41339350
snort it

>>41339363
No thanks I'm not looking to get too bulky just trying to tone up for summer and I heard snorting sarms is more powerful than tren so I'm gonna take it rectally to be safe

>>41339376
It's funny because anal medicines is quite strong that lots of cancer patients take suppositories because it's most effective.

>>41339376

>snorting sarms is more powerful than tren

What that fuck am I reading.

>>41339473
I'm just trolling in that comment but srs about asking about the legitness of my MK powder. Any labs I can send it to for testing?

>>41339518
yes, but it would cost pretty much as much as the 120 you spent.

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>>41339184
It's getting better thankfully.

>>41339350
>He didn't purchase from the resident egay jew

>>41339707
Fuck we had an established eBay Jew source?

>>41331465
clen stops working after 2 weeks

>>41339810
ketotifen restores receptor sensetivity or keeps it high, and is cheap.
Now you can run clen for 3 months.

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I took 300mg of modafinil and like 1.7g of phenibut today but holy hell am I tired. I guess this pehnibut just makes me tired instead of social and shit. Kids disappointed desu.

>>41339774
Cap but I haven't seen him in a while, goes by advancedbodyscience.

What does being on test feel like?

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>shit so hard that my anus starts to bleed
eat your fibers kids

>>41340075
Feels like you dont give a fuck about little men and their little faggot problems and u know there alwayus a bitch out there who wants ur cock

>>41340156
2edgy7me.

But it feels amazing for real, I feel like s modern day Spartan or a super hero, I have crazy confidence now I never had, it's rad 10/10 will pin 2x a week till I die

>no weird sides on tren, var or test.
>didn't die snorting research chemicals
>three near fatal car crashes, one of which split the back of my head open.
>concerning growth on my arms on sarms that the doc scraped out of fear it's cancerous.

Oh well, was nice knowing you lads. Looks like the big dude upstairs caught up with me.

>>41340291

How much test are you on?

>>41340322
If its actually cancerous no sensible doc would scrape it off it would always be incised in its entirety or a biopt would be taken.

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>>41340092
Psyllium husk breh. Did you do anything for koningsdag?

>>41340075
the test itself makes you feel nothing, its the increased gains and the mires that makes you feel awsome and confident.

If you are on 10000000 tons of test and you are dyel it wont do shit for you

>>41338241
Thanks everyone who wished me luck!! Just finished and I ended up doing okay. My fight song was a bit wobbly but everything was okay.

Results posted soon I'm excited

>>41340345
Right now only a cruise of test 175mg and 300mg tren E a week, finishing this cut up. I've never went above 500 a week on test, not because of sides or anything I just get the results I want it off it at that dose, I don't feel a need to push it higher when I'm doing really well on low doses

>>41340348

Seemed to think a scrape bio was the best idea, I'm fucking hoping you're on the money though. I just inject shit, I don't fix people who do.

>>41340434
Lol the thing is if its scraped off and it turns out as cancer (pretty sure it won't) you won't know exactly where to cut out the spot later anymore. So you'd get a much bigger cut and still risk missing a part.

Either way I don't think you can grow skin cancers from SARMs

>>41340463

Yeah, I was sceptical of the whole cancer from SARMs shit but I figured I'd check it just to be safe. Thanks Anon, less worried but also wat the fug.

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>>41340392
Do you guys pass around the cheerleaders like some weird sex network?

>>41340695
there always has to be that guy asking creepy questions

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>>41340738
You know it. I was wondering to see if I should join when I start at a 'party school' this fall.

>>41340949
and tf is a party school?

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>>41340974
Known for crazy parties and sluts basically.

>>41339350

- mk677 is not a SARM.
- mk677 does not really help much with muscle-growth, at least not directly, it's more like growth hormone -- helps with sleep, recovery, lack of appetite
- don't buy mk677 off of ebay if you can just buy it off of a trusted vendor like IRC. Doesn't cost much more, and you will get QoA certificates and spectras.

Also, understand that mk677 is NOT light on the side-effects. Extremely deep sleep (to the point of bedwetting), extreme hunger, very high bloodpressure, headaches, strong bloating because of water-retention are all side-effects I experienced at 15mg/ED. It also increases IGF-1, so if you do it for prolonged periods, it will likely increase your risk for cancer. It also increases hematocrit, so your chance for a stroke and other cardiovascular diseases will increase.

So unless you have a really good reason to do mk677, like wanting to increase bone-density, hematocrit, recovery time/endurance, sleep, feeding capacity or one of the "rejuvenating" effects that hgh/igf-1 is typically associated with (like on your skin), I would recommend you to look into other options. If not steroids, then SARMs, like ostarine or ligandrol. ostarine has no side-effects compared to mk677, and if you take it for a longer period of time, like 4 months, you will actually gain some mass. Even testosterone has much less noticable side-effects than mk677. Also any muscle-mass you pack on while on mk677 is likely just water-retention and you'll loose it after you cycle off again anyway.

A simple test of whether you have genuine ibutamoren mesylate is to taste it. If it tastes likes the devils balls (extremely bitter, metallic taste), then there's actual ibutamoren mesylate in there. If not, you got juked. As for purity... unless you want to shell out for a lab to test it, you're out of luck.

Is going past 250g of protein a day justifiable?

>>41341325
On gear yes

brehs i cant stop binging on bananas

IT IS THE EASIEST 1000 CALS OF MY DAY

ALL THOSE CARBS CANT BE GOOD TO ME

>>41341354
Most people are fructose intolerant. Enjoy fatty liver.

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>>41341325
why are you people always taking such retarded amounts of protein

pic related is 4 months of 500mg test with 100g per day on a vegan diet

>>41341367
basically this, the limiting factor is pretty much never protein

>>41341367
Because I'm 6'5 and over 225bs of lean tissue.

>>41341413
1.6 g per kg is enough in any case, that would be 160g for you.

>>41341438
There's no reason to fill excess calories with fat or starch.

>>41341413
so you are only 25 lbs heavier than me. 25 lbs doesnt mean you need triple the amount of protein that i do.

Take 150mg thats all you need lmfao.

>>41341448
carbs are cheap, muscle sparing, taste good, lots of reasons.


>>41341472
150mg of protons, intra nasal after your workout

>>41341472
No I'm 260 with about 230-235lbs being lean tissue.

>>41341472
you're not 200 lbs manlet

>>41341484
I eat about 500g of carbs postworkout, from an oat powder/dextrose mix.

>>41341489
>triggered lanklet is butthurt because im much much shorter than him and hes still barely heavier than me or even lighter

you know how to tie a loose right?

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>>41341525
I'm not triggered though Mr mirin your neck

>>41341507
congratulations, I guess....?

>>41341485
yeah okay fine if that is true, but 260 protein is still more than you need, no point in going higher than that

>>41341533
manlet btfo
HOW CAN HE POSSIBLY RECOVER?

>>41341533
wow bimbs why would you call me a manlet

sad :c

>>41341574
That actually wasn't me. You assumed it was though. I don't subscribe to lanklet b Manley politics.

im still 200 lbs tho

>>41341588
maybe in your dreams little guy :)

>>41341584
oh well

anyways who ever that was

>triggered lanklet under 200 lbs is butthurt

If I am completly natural, and I still have gyno, would it be wise to use Letro or Nolva to reduce it? Would it work?
Stupid question, but I always wondered

I'm DYEL skinnyfat and cutting to sub 15% body fat before I touch a barbell. I plan to roid on day 1 of lifting. Is there anything wrong with this aside from jelly faggots who didn't roid until 5 years in who are threatened?

>>41341654
Yeah.

You'll most likely pull or sprain a tendon.

>>41341654
why would you wait? The sooner the start, the more of a headstart you'll have, roids or not. As bimbo pointed out, it's important to ease into training, since tendons and joints need to build up just as much as muscles. roids increase igf-1, so they might help with that too, but you still want to be careful.

>>41341653
Letro is more effective for gyno treatment.

>>41341654
why would you wait with roiding til you're sub 15

>>41341705
Testosterone has a significant impact on reducing collagen synthesis.

I was running 500/500 test deca my first blast and my knee had the worst dislocation it had in years that first blast.

Despite squatting and leg pressing religiously in that time, test reduced my patella tendon strength to bear nothing.

Tread lightly.

>>41341739
maybe he doesn't want to be a fatass?

>>41341741
interesting, that's good to know.

>>41341755

so just cut on test then, you'll grow some muscle while you're dieting and/or preserve what you have.

>>41341533
How long have you been roiding clayton?

>>41341839
Long enough anon

>>41341797
b-but that goes against the advice parroted on plebbit that everyone repeats here

>>41340949
You should join

>>41341877
So does roiding from day one

>>41341877
does it? never seen anything that contradicts that.

>>41341924
well reddit isn't completely wrong on that.

i think you're best at low dosage when cutting to preserve muscles but thats a dumb risk to take when you dont know jack about lifting/nutrition.

What's the best oral for lean gains without water or bloat

Superdrol?

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>tfw noticeable difference by the day on my veggie raw beef dnp + cardio starve diet
and you faggots didn't believe in me. taking daily pics and you can tell this on them. I am feeling faint pretty much all the time I stand up however.

also
>my pubertal gyno is more noticeable with less bf%
fuuuuuuuggg

>>41342018
>veggie raw beef starve diet

Those are all opposites

>>41341851
>doesnt want to tell us

inb4 since 18 yo

>>41342047
I'm 26. Spent from 16 to 23 lifting natty. Do the math.

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>>41342028
I mean, I eat cucumbers and lettuce in the morning when I take the dnp because I don't want to JUST my stomach. Little to no kcals and it only fuels the DNP sweat. And raw ground beef, for them acids, some more cucumbers and lettuce some time before I got to bed along with my 2nd dnp pill. I'd say it's as close as you get to starving yourself on dnp if you don't want stomach aches from the dnp.

either way it works and I have picture proof

>>41342077
>26

Kek you look mid thirties. Why do roidcucks always look old? You'll never get a cute teenage gf this way.

>>41342101
he won't need a teenage girl, I'll seduce him instead

>>41342101
I've always looked older.

I looked mid twenties when I was in high school.

>tfw a friend brings up the subject of steroids and you try to feign ignorance

test, mast and superdrol is probably the fastest way to chadville

prove me wrong with your shittier cycle ahahaha

>>41342101
I would of guessed he is about 28 if go to his instagram and see pictures of his face.

>>41342295
Mast and superdrol only give you that look while you're on them. Fades when you stop.

>>41342101
thats exagerated, i thought he was 28-30.

Nevertheless, anyone who is muscular looks older than he actually is, including nattys.

>>41342294
im pretty good at feigning it
>hey how do you know all this stuff? You arent pinning yourself are you?

then i proceed and make fun of roiders in my gym

>>41342101
> You'll never get a cute teenage gf this way.
This could not be further from the truth. Girls want somebody who looks like their ideal father.

>>41342413
Don't really want a gf or any pussy. After 18 months of dating a teenager, I'm spent.

I don't even like my two fuckbuddies.

>>41342453
Okay... Wish I was in that situation.

>>41342453
>bimbo problems

>>41342465
Nah shits tiresome

>>41342295
>not tren
>not methyl tren

just pick the strongest androgenic roids and there you go.

>>41342498
Whatever won 100 betting on always dreaming and I'm day drunk.

Ladies can suck it

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>>41342657
What do you guys think Bradley Martyn cycles? The dude is massive. Also has slight hair loss. Easily same/similar stats as prime Arnold

>>41342876
>>>>cycles

>>41342876
those lower arms look unproportional to the huge biceps, IMO...

>>41342876
how the tf would i even know man.

you cant just magically look at a dude and be like "yep this is test + tren + adrol"

>>41342876
Mostly tren and high if I had to guess.

>>41341741
recovering from knee surgery, thanks for that notice, gonna wait a year rather than 8 months kek

>>41342876
if hats weren't a thing no one would know who this guy is

can i use 5/8'' 4 bicebbs

>>41337065

Medallion at your knee is good also

>>41342975
don't pin biceps

yes

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Lmao do guys seriously flip to this shit when they get rejected if they're beta faggots?

>>41343068
Not really. I get angry when my ex is a huge cunt but the key is showing zero emotion.

She was a bitch and left so I just left and said thanks for the fill up. There's zero point in showing emotion. Makes you look lame and gives them power.

2 days ago just did my first ever Test E pin.

Honestly I cannot wait to pin again. This is one of the best things I've done in my life so far.

Thanks /fraud/ for the help.
We're all gonna make it.

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>>41343117
im proud of you son

>>41343068
p sure only ugly people do that.

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>>41343068
nah. this girl GAVE me her phone number then pulled this shit on me...

She heard me talking about another girls ass and thought it was her... lmao. she did have a good ass tho
>>41343117
it always feels good

>>41343106
Why is this guy still pretending to be alpha?..

He's like the stereotypical mommy issues beta who overcompensates for his submissive nature by convincing himself he won because he "facefucked his ex and got to fuck her" to justify how whipped and emotionally manipulated he was and is. She basically uses you to get off as a human dildo then tossed you aside and now think you're the emotionless alpha LEL

>>41343148
I don't pretend to be anything but human my dude.

>>41343156
Cop out beta answer. Keep convincing yourself you do gay porn just for the money and not to fulfill your fantasies.

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> dont fap for TWO whole days on 700mg test
> spend an hour fapping and builing a small library of hentai
> literally went thru 58 pages of rule34paheal until I had ALL the hentai of Nonon from Kill la Kill

This libido, at least I don't have low estrogen.

>>41343163
I get zero satisfaction from and it's probably ruined my capacity to enjoy intimacy with people I care about.

That being said, there's actually zero reason to be upset when a BPD person acts like a shithead. I can only control my reaction to people, why exert energy in being angry in the moment when it won't do shit?

>>41343106
you're on some wannabe stoic shit, what you gonna hide your emotion like the manipulative genius in your favorite movie?

>>41343148
ur ugly arent you

>>41343196
See above.

Being angry gets me nowhere. It's better if I use that energy in the gym.

>>41343212
why do you even reply to beta orbiters like that

>>41343188
> literally went thru 58 pages of rule34paheal until I had ALL the hentai

that's p. much me err day, steroids or not

well, if it's not a busy day, that is.

>>41343218
Drunk and bored

Was supposed to help a fuckbuddy move today but I don't like her enough. It's derby day.

What would be your go to for best keepable gains?

>>41343244
Hey man sort of off topic question but-

Did your general interest in girls just plummet ever since you started pinning?
Because that shit is happening to me. I now give little fucks about girls and mainly care about myself and being strong.

>>41343269
High test

>>41343274
No.

I have an addiction to pussy. It's literally all I crave when I'm low or feeling angry. It's a major issue with my self worth. Instead of drugs I turn to random women. Has a lot to do with my own issues though.

Only recently do I really not give a shit; but that's also because of my own issues.

I'd say you're better off foregoing pussy until you've accomplished what you need, want and desire. There is nothing wrong with abstaining to focus on what you crave for yourself.

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>>41343135
I mean at least she didn't start calling you weird names and she acted somewhat mature about it, as did you.

>>41343131
That's what I'm thinking, holy hell the /r/niceguys sub is scary if that's what girls get on a regular basis when they reject a guy.

Whats the most cycles you guys ever ran. I just finished my 4th cycle

Dbol seems to give me lower back soreness or a DOMS-like feeling despite me not hitting that area at all. Is that common?

>>41343449
>the cycle meme

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>>41343402
> gives a fuck what women think

Has anyone ever lanced a blood blister before? What did you use?

I tried a sewing needle, and that kind of sucked. I'm thinking about trying a 25g pin.

>>41343635
Where is the blister located. I used to row so I got a ton of them. If it's on your handmade just leave it. They're not like callouses. Not the end of the world if you remove it though

I would use a pocket knife or a nail clipper.

Is it wrong to ask for a source here? I havnt cycled in over a year and my source is gone

>>41343679
yes its against the rules.

>>41343648

It's on my inner thigh. I got some pants with what was apparently a VERY bad inseam. Guess that's why they were only $20.

>>41333059
People get their hair genetics from their moms side

>>41343296
Proving my point faggot, obvious mommy issues and you seek approval from random women as a standin for her. Also you got off when your ex called you a good little boy.. oedipus much? You can't be happy without constant validation for women, they have the power not you.

>>41343827
That doesn't really upset me. I don't see why you're angry.

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I hope yellow tinted dnp eyes is normal

>>41343973
You have a liver problem and you need to stop taking your hepatotoxic medications immediately. Seek medical care. Yellow sclera is the result of hyperbilirubinemia which is caused by liver failure.

>>41337381
Those dosages are mostly more than MasT's stack. How long did it take you to see results? I'm still waiting on my shit to be delivered.

Also, does Keratin shampoo give a similar effect to Keto shampoo?

i'm going to order some gear online to go on trt, its cheaper and better this way than continuing with the stupid fucking doctor and his shit 100mg every 2 weeks "treatment".
I only have one questiong, how do I receive the items I ordered and what happens if I am not home when they arrive? I never ordered online from other countries other than mine

>>41343973
you to eh? recently had a blood test done and my GGT levels are 6 times the acceptable level. Im p.much fucked

>>41344148
because of what orals?

>>41344172
impossible to know, ive been doing cycles for years. Most recent was a cut on DNP

>>41344222
liver doesn't take that long to recover so the dnp then

>>41343973
>>41344148
that's why I just stick to test with occasional dianabol

>>41344235
>I'mplying dbol is kinder to your liver

>>41343985
Don't listen to this faggot DNP has yellow dye in it and makes you cum piss sweat and eyes yellowish. It's not a liver problem or jaundice.

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>>41344328
I thought so because I've read all over that it's pretty common on dnp and goes away days after quitting

We need a new thread.

>>41344895
Thats crusader work

New Thread

>>41345614
>>41345614
>>41345614