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/fraud/

I'm the only one who can be bothered to make a new thread so give me praise Edition.

Newfriends: http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki

Previous Bread: >>41300410
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>>41310727
You'll get big. Stretch marks galore and snap city await.
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>>41310729
in4 qts (not anzu)
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>>41310729
Milf body is my type.

Both of my new fuckbuddies are into erotic lactation. My ex still mills herself because she knows I dig it.

Man, lady bodies are truly a gift.
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>>41310761
Did somebody say ANZU?
>>41310764
I thought your ex was flat as a board?
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>>41310777
Doesn't mean she doesn't lactate.
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>>41310777
>Did somebody say ANZU?
n-no
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Reposting from the last thread to get more opinions.

If I have a temporary heart condition (POTS syndrome) that is non-fatal, would I be fine running 500mg of test e a week for 16 weeks? I've gotten ultrasounds of my heart, and the doctor said everything was normal with it. I also got a blood test a little bit ago that was checking to see if my heart was healthy and everything was normal as well. The only symptoms I really experience are a heart rate increase from 70ish BPM to 130ish BPM when standing up. It drops to 116 after 15-30 seconds if I'm standing still. If I move around it goes in the 120's. Sitting/lying back down drops it down to the 80's and 90's, then it takes a bit for it to go down to the 70's and 80's. I also get lightheaded and sometimes a bit dizzy. My heart rate also increases after eating. My blood also pools in my feet when I'm standing and my hands when they're at my sides, and it makes my veins swell and my hands/feet red.

I'm also able to run without any problems like passing out or shit, same with working out.
Also, my current BPM right now while I'm lying in bed is 75 BPM. It goes up to the low 80's when I move.

Oh yeah, what would you guys recommend for cardio so I can get rid of this?
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>>41310790
This is a better meme than the Tallgeese.
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>>41310786
But flat isn't MILF bimbsie.

>>41310789
Y-yes.

>>41310792
GO TO YOUR FUCKING DOCTOR FIRST
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>>41310812
It's good enough. Little tummy, big legs. Thick lips. Bitch face.
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>>41310812
My cardiologist wanted to give me meds to lower my heart rate, but that usually ends up making it a lot worse, so I decided not to take them. She also said I would outgrow it in my 20's.
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>>41310790
Awesome pic. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight.
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>>41310829
hmmm....
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>>41310829
Whatever floats your boat.
>>41310831
Take your fucking medication you dumb fuck. When you're certain they don't work, go back to your cardiologist and say "Hey that didn't work."

We are not doctors. The closest we've got here is nurse anon and Alb who I think has doctor parents.
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>>41310843
Hmmmm
>>41310848
Whew it floats my guy that shit is coolio
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I have my phone consult with my TRT doc tomorrow how do I sell my "symptoms" so he gives me legal cruising pharma test?
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>>41310848
>Take your fucking medication you dumb fuck
She never prescribed it to me. I didn't wanna take it because I know 2 other people who had the exact same problem as me, and when they started taking the medications for this they started fainting when standing, and they can't do any physical activity without passing out. I think they wanna do surgery on 1 of them now.
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>>41310879
So you went to a cardiologist, she said "You'll grow out of it" and didn't give you anything to relieve the symptoms?
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>>41310879
Just do a cycle so you can die like zyzz and stop shitting up my thread faggot
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>>41310902
>BODYBUILDER TAKING STEROIDS DIES
>cue 500 anti sterrod campaigns
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>>41310929
He died from a heart problem like this anon which was exacerbated by drug abuse + suana.
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reminder that zyzz' lady post was about dnp and then he died in a suana which are known to kill dnp users
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Does methyltren give you muscle gains or is it just a preworkout for strength
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>>41310969
What do we think Zyzz was on?

I've heard the most plausible compounds were

150mg Tren ace ED
150 Test prop ED
Then some admixture of Clen and T3.
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>>41311045
Considering his last post on the forums was him saying how he wanted to try dnp and asking about dosing..
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>>41311045
>give me what the dead guy took
Only in bodybuilding lmao
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>>41311072
Except I'm not a dirty atheist. I go to heaven.

Plus the dead guy looked good and I don't do coke.
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anyone have any solutions for back acne?
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>>41311089
>don't do coke
confirmed not gonna make it
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>>41311184
I am one with God. I have already made it son.
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>>41311189
But there is no god, you're just having a mental episode latching onto something to avoid your real issues and to try stop you unravelling further.

may allah bless your socks
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>>41311162
Accutane faggot your source probably sells it unless you're some yuropoor cuckold
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>>41310832
Why are you being sarcastic, dude's just trying to improve himself
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>>41311045
Dont forget the coke, xtc and molly. I think he ran dnp with tren and clen. Fucking mad man
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>>41311045
>What do we think Zyzz was on?
Dicks mostly
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Now that I'm respelled I realize zyzz was a shitskin who was pushed to elevate the brown men as the masculine ideal and normalize immigration to white countries

At last I truly see
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>>41311498
He was a Kurd. As much as I hate muzzie shitskins, I hate Kurds the least.
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>>41311498
Arabs are white
Jews are non white
We are fighting the wrong wars
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>>41311775
>Arabs
>white

whew buddy, zyzz wasn't even arab
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A-A-Anzu
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>>41310777
Who is this malnourished ayy and why do I want to fuck it?
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>>41312138
It is Anzu. Turkish Cosplayer and full-time innocent qt.
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>>41312154
What the fuck it's so cute it's pissing me off. Humans aren't that cute this is how we get invaded by aliens.
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>>41312154
>Turkish
DROPPE... nah who am I kidding, would still breed like prized cattle.
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>>41312188
Fairly sure she's Laz which isn't roach material. Native to caucasia.
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>>41312209
Yeah, somewhat looks like it without makeup. Who cares, would still violate then cuddle anyway. And I couldn't even put my finger on why, she just presses my buttons.
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>>41312222
I feel you anon.
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>>41310877
Always always always you have problems getting hard, maintaining erection. There are other "symptoms" of low t but (good) doctors won't prescribe trt unless you have trouble with your peepee
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uh, how are hormones and steroids stored?

i have a morbidly obese flatmate. this guy gets hungry and steals food from my fridge on occasion. hes literally morbidly obese and cant stop eating

thing is im so poor i dont even mind him because hes quiet. ill take a small food tax for mental peace, ive lived with much worse, loud niggers, people who blast music, etc etc. mental peace is priceless

he cant even steal most of my food even mostly because im vegan keto so its not tasty for him. fatso likes sweets. even my landlord calls him fatso publicly

anyways, do i need a fridge for hormone/tren/roid storage? i do NOT want to deal with the bullshit that comes with explaining what this shit is to my landlord. i can put a fridge in my room if need be
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What's the difference between 13mm, 25mm or 33mm syringe filters? Also should I buy a caulk gun or a handpump or none at all?
Want to homebrew on a budget as much as possible

>>41312840
Store them somewhere without sunlight and room temp
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>>41312840
No, I store mine in a shoebox in my wardrobe filled with toilet paper.
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Got some new Anzu's. Fuck yes.

>It’s the end, the war has been lost

>Keeping them safe ’til the river’s been crossed

>Nicht ein schlacht, ein rettungsaktion

>Holding their ground ’til the final platoon

>“Hurry up, we’re waiting for you”

>Men of the 9th, and civilians too

>Dispossessed, surrendering to the west
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>>41312946
>Anzu

I dont know why but I hate her so much
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>>41312946
why the fuck do people idolize these worthless whores

you know she gets fucked by a hung chad who degrades her, right? you know she probably been gangbanged by niggers, right? you know she is a typical western female, and as such she's been getting dick since at latest 15, right?

why are there so many people who fall in love with these e-whores, fuck

you know she laughs and mocks and looks down upon ugly betas like you who worship her, right? you know that past the smile she shows you she secrets laughs at you, right?
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>>41312956
It's because you're a piece of shit and love is barren in your heart.
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>>41312972
But shes so anorexic and annoying
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>>41312956
I avoid and dislike all Turks, generally, but I'm an Armo. You might not be.
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>>41312967
>you know she is a typical western female

Is Turkey western? I hope not. Stay out of the EU REEEEEEEEEEEE

Also, fuck this pip just to keep it fraud related. Right ass cheek feels like it's just had someone with cleats just stomped on it.
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>>41312983
wait that anzi monster is a turk?

Yech! it gets worse
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>>41312981
>But shes so anorexic and annoying

>Anorexic
I have a thing for girls with eating disorders or otherwise have problems with food. 1st GF had Crohns, Second GF was bullimic and third GF (recent breakup) was celiac and anorexic to a degree.

>Annoying
I think it's more child like and endearing.
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>>41312991
How small are your glutes if you actually get PIP in them? I've never once had any PIP even using shitty Tiger Malay gear at concentrations of 400mg/ml. The glutes are the only place I can rely on never to feel sore at all.

Time to start doing your hip thrusts, bruh
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>>41312967
holy autism batman

to be fair, I personally would just want to fuck her in cosplay. no investment, emotional or otherwise, besides that.
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>>41313026
>I have a thing for girls with eating disorders or otherwise have problems with food. 1st GF had Crohns,
She must have loved anal

>Second GF was bullimic and third GF (recent breakup) was celiac and anorexic to a degree.
Sound like a hoot
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>>41313027
I used a new source and shook like a bitch. So right now I can't tell if it's the gear or I just raped my ass with the pin moving around.
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>>41313028
>holy autism batman
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, faggot. i dont think ive ever respected anyone in my life who speaks like you
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>>41313026
How can you idolize Crohn's. Yay my gf stays thin because she suffers like a dog everytime she has a bowel movement, go me.
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>>41313031
>She must have loved anal

Jokes on you, she actually did.
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>>41313037
oh no a random anonymous poster on an indonesian foreskin stretching newsletter does not respect me. MY LIFE IS A LIE

no hard feelings though, I just wanted to ridicule you for your redpilled bullshit lel
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>>41313040
There's a difference between idolisation and fetishism and it wasn't serious enough for her to be home bound or really disturb her life outside of the occasional "Wow I shouldn't have eaten x thing"
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>>41313068
It's got really nothing to do with them being thin. I honestly don't know why. Something to do with them being ill so I can take care of them I assume but I'm really not sure.
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>>41313034
If you're the man I have to rely on to fight back the Saracen menace, I fear for the future of my people
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>>41313086
New sources just freak me out especially when they're unverified.
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>>41313098
That's the world we're living in right now. The fact that my main source no longer has access to my favourite UGL is depressing given I've been relying on said UGL for a long ass time. Really hoping they get back in the game soon.
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>>41312991
Turkish women are trash,literally much worse than western women.
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>>41313131
Never been to Turkey wouldn't know. Waiting for the 10th Crusade.
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>>41313130
This source gave a 20% discount a promised a bretty gud deal in exchange for bloods.

Still doesn't help the anxiety.
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About to start my nolvadex PCT

Should I do the 40/40/20/20 meme or the 20/20/20/20/20/20 meme?
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>starting 7 test and var cycle, then another 7 weeks of test and dbol
>so far the only thing that came in was the var
>been running 90mg ED for the past week with no test waiting for it to come in

Fuck.
Test should be coming in today though at least...
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>>41313148
just send the nuke and relieve me from my pain.
I am ready to die.
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>>41313210
We're coming, hold strong.

>>41313209
>Running var
>then running dbol

Why?
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not sure if that guy was a troll, but some anon said that tren gives him disgusting acne.

is this true? What if test base + tren, does that still give you huge acne?

I already hated the acne from my blast, anything more and im gonna hang myself
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>>41313235
Never personally heard of Tren causing acne. So I dunno.
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>>41313046
what would jesus think!
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>>41313235
Pete rubbish said tren causes HUGE amounts of acne.
never tried myself tho
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>>41313245
im honestly scared off tren.

>tren skin
>increased hair loss

are a nogo for me. But then i loved what test did to my face and how masculine i look compared to 6 months ago, so i really want to say if tren actually makes you look chaddish.

I dont even care about the gains lmao
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>>41313252
That I'm a lost sheep giving into my carnal desires.
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>>41313226
Is this a boy or girl, srs? Does (she) live in our great country?
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>>41313174
btw crusader, have a look at some of the photos the source put up to verify themselves. They were done in a shitty house and you can literally see huge patches of mould on the walls.

Stay with legit vendors mate, don't give your money to new cunts in the game.
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>>41313275
I'm excited to try it but money is tight. Got my maternal grandfathers hair who hasn't lost a single hair on his head.

My brother got fucked with our dad's hair and was balding at 20.

Just try it Moosey. If you're going to go bald, fuck it. I always tell my brother just shave your head and go commando mode. If you're going to go bald from tren, just blast the fuck out of it and become a massive special forces looking bloke.
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>>41313235
Tren gives me all the sides even at low doses. Insomnia, acne, hair loss, worsened cardiovascular fitness, paranoia, the works. As soon as I come off I start to feel better.

Nothing is as good in terms of gains, though. You have to weigh it up for yourself.
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>>41313287
Grill. Don't let the other anons tell you otherwise. She lives in Turkey but has spent a bit of time in Japan.
>>41313310
Yeah I saw, but I thought the deal is too good and they seem really desperate to prove themselves.
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>>41310790
So you want to take steroids to do 4 pullups? I can already tell joining the army wont be for you.
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>>41313327
iight little buddy - I wouldn't plan on frontloading until you know if you got shitty gear.
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>>41313226
I was coming off a natty 30 day hard cut by the time I started my cycle, and my plan was to finish the cut up by the time the Test E kicks in (4 weeks) I was going to gradually bump up the cals to a bulk for the dbol
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>>41313350
I questioned him about it and he said it's a warehouse/shipping house. Which is semi-
believable.

But I can't complain about customer service, responds in 30 minutes or less, express post and everything packed very nicely.

Just waiting to see in a few more weeks how it all goes.
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>>41313355
Ah K. sounds wicked rad.
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>>41313068
>>41313084
Hm, makes sense. Similar reason I go for girls with daddy issues, not to exploit that as some others do, but unironically to protect them and shit.
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>>41313396
You close to brisbane?
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>>41313177
first meme. anecdotal evidence is somewhat in favor of that one, although it seems to make not too much of a difference if you're not coming off literal grams of gear.
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>>41313408
I feel you. Protective instincts are strong, vulnerable girls in a general sense just get me.
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>>41313209
>starting cycle/blast before you got everything sorted out and ready
what did he mean by this
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>>41313414
I'm not going to disclose my location because I have like 2-3 stalker anons trying to find out who I am.
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>>41313437
I am one mate, don't make me look back through the archive to the Law Gala.

I only want to have sex (no homo).
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>>41313322
hmm sad :c

>>41313311
nonononononononononononno

I fucking hate this
>just shave it off
mentality. Vast majority of people drop 3 points in looks when they lose their hair. I would rather take all the hair drugs in the world including finasteride than ever going bald.

Im not old enough for that shit, im 22.

I doubt tren would make me bald. I have shit hair genetics and the test blast barely touched my hair
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>>41313448
Good luck. I didn't get in any photos that night because I had social anxiety out the tits.
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>>41313458
>Im not old enough for that shit, im 22.

Trust me it's not that bad. It's so much worse when you're nearing 30 and have a combover.
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>>41313209
I too like to live dangerously
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>>41313435
I was impatient for the gains
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>>41313477
At this point, not even your God could save you.

Enjoy your late nights shitposting here mate - they are numbered.
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>>41313565
>Late nights

Kek.
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I'm a beginner to steriods about to start a cutting cycle and wanting to jump on the train. Also a female.
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>>41313586
>Also a female

sigh
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>>41313598
Point me in the direction of a female who want to immediately grow an enlarged clitoris and gain a voice deeper than their father their first cycle. I had to say it.
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>>41313556
still stupid. reminds me of how a mate decided to order pct stuffs mid-cycle and couldn't get any for a long while, lel
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For my next blast should I do.
I want to get big and lean
1-10 Test E 600 ew
1-10 Nandrolone cyp 400 ew
11-20 Test E 350 ew
11-20 Tren E 350 ew

OR

1-20 Test E 500 ew
1-20 Tren E 500 ew
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I went through 4 vials with exactly 0 pip pinning by every time

this fifth vial has given me 3 days long crippling pip every single time I inject. Fuck me this hurts, just sleeping on my side is nearly impossible. The pain from my vg literally pulses down my leg... and then three days later it's all gucci

I thought about muscle scarring but I doubt that'd be it, right? I should be feeling that at the moment of injection and not as pip coming on the next day, right?

Testing a new site with virgin muscle + this new vial of death also scares me
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>>41313657
>pinning by every time
pinning vg every time
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If I pin my dick would it get swole
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>>41313625
Lol, Im not THAT dumb. I checked the mail and the rest of my gear along with HCG and PCT is finally in. Whew
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Brewed some tren e at 275mg/ml in an attempt to compensate for impurities even though the source claims 99.8% pure. Think that's a recipe for pip? I pinned 3ml into my right VG the other day and got swelling but maybe it was a fluke.
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>>41313894
275mg/ml isn't bad, depends on what you used to make it hold
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>>41313598
I'd like to piss on her as she flops around like a fish outta water
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Beginner /fraud/ here after nattyliftin for 5 years

Would this be appropriate for a first cycle?

Week 1-10 250mg Test E Tuesday + friday
Week 2-5 50mg anavar ED
Week 10-14 20mg novladex

Is aromasin required during the cycle or would you only use it if symptoms of high estrogen are noticed? I've had my blood tested and my estrogen levels are on the lower end of the spectrum so I'm worried that I'll be getting joint pains if intake it
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>>41313913
Used 1% ba 22% bb and MCT. I noticed the stuff I left in the media bottle crystalized on the bottom, probably because it got cold at night.
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>>41313972
no
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>>41313974
should be fine. i literally only get pip from too much ba, or if I use GSO (for literally anything in any amount, although I'm not officially allergic or anything).

also
>275mg/ml
>pinned 3ml
nice
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Reeee. Can't figure out how much caber you should take on 2g+ of tren. I see some guys taking .5mg e3d with 500mg/wk. Everyone says tren gives you insomnia but I just end up taking up 3x a night with my dick hard as shit asking to be jerked. How do cows handle shit shit?

>>41314095
We'll see I guess.
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How much test e do I need to cure my gayness?
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>>41310729
>Dos hips
HNGGGG
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>>41314371
You need tren not test
You'll still be gay but with enough tren you'll want to fuck females too
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>>41314197
sad tits
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>>41314689
the filename is misleading to say the least
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Is subq injections not an option for those a little fatter? Or is it still okay?
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>>41314689
Idk, they're kinda cute
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>>41314715
If you're "a little fatter" you shouldn't be using steroids.
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>>41314715
Why don't you just cut first?
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Do I have gyno? I'm higher bf% than I should be for sure but maybe there is just some bloating?

Running 700mg test/week
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>defy medical doctor calling in 5 minutes to determine if I get TRT or not

I swear on me mum if he tells me he's gonna treat my thyroid first and see how that affects test levels before giving me pharma test I'm gonna shoot up a school
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>>41314753
Buying test online is easier than gettin it from doctor

Some guys run LD4033 to supress their test
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>>41314753
remember to let the phone ring a few times before answering to assert your dominance as the alpha
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>>41314748
short answer: yes probably
longer answer: looks not too grave, ai dosage?

>>41314753
they're pretty chill I've heard, main reason so many people flock to them. still try to play the low test faggot as best as you can (shouldn't be hard KEK), but don't worry too much.
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>>41314782
.5mg Adex on pin days (E3D). I think I have estro within range because of creaky joints. Will get bloods eventually
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>>41314748
gyno
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>>41314689
Not great but I wouldn't kick her out of bed. I like them small anyways, small and perky.
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>9:02
>no call yet

It's 12 pm rigght now in eastcoast cuckold time right?
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>>41314748
>roiding for this
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>>41314806
hm ok. yeah get bloods, can't really tell what's wrong here
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>>41314889
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Do you actually get any positive mental effects/nootropic effects from steroids? If so, which ones?
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>>41314914
If I was born a girl I would have unbelievable curves

I had to delete it cuz i was laughing too hard.
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>>41314933
>tfw no fraud bf with perfect butt
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>>41310729
Any experiences with trestolone ace aka MENT ? seems like its better than tren when it comes to mass building and it has less side effects. im looking into this for my second cycle but its hard to find much info about it.
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>>41314949
>trest your second cycle
Jesus god no
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If my estrogen is too low, will that significantly impact muscle gains or is it a separate issue?
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Deloading on cycle -
So my cycle is
1-16 test e 600/wk down to 500/wk at probably week 12 (cant remember exactly when)
6-14 tren a 50ed bumped to 75 ed around week 12

Anyways, my second week of tren, i got bad food poisoning and couldnt really eat or push myself in the gym that whole week so i just did a deload week there.

Now im at week 13 and my lifts didnt increase like they have been. Stayed about the same as the week prior. I was hoping i could just power through the tren blast without deloading but after this last week in the gym i think i may need to.

Routine is a ULxPPLx. Should i just deload on my next upper/lower days?

Also may be a retarded thought but i didny take any creatine this week. Normally when i drop creatine my lifts decrease a bit but on gear esp. Tren i dont think this would be the cause of stagnant performance
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*weighs in at -1.6 kg from yesterday*
*eats a banana and drinks a glass of sour milk*
*leaves home for 45 min of cardio*
*eats nothing more until tonight's raw ground beef, dnp and vitamins*
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>>41314998
explain why ? have you ever used it or just role-playing as steroid user
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>>41315225
>*eats nothing more until tonight's raw ground beef, dnp and vitamins*
pls not again
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>>41315027
bumping for answer to this please
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Lads help me out please. I've been researching myself for a while now, each time I cycle something.

I noticed I get smarter when I'm on something and it's not fucking placebo. I tend to read up on quantum theory and study advanced math when I'm on roids. Once I'm off the shit I can't get the square root of 2.

Anyone else in the same shoes?
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>>41315345
it's my diet and it's working so far
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>>41315027
it'll significantly impact your muscle gains because you won't be able to move your snapped up joints faggot
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>>41315401
you disgust me

are you canadian?
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>>41315372
yes, you need estrogen to develop muscle. don't crash your estrogen.

it's most likely not crashed estro if your only symptom is bad gains. you just train/eat like an idiot

>>41315379
no, it's placebo
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>>41315415
no but I am a snownigger, why
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I am interested in the physics of simple machines, such as pulleys, levers, wheels, and etc. I have never been able to fully understand why simple machines like screwdrivers can make certain tasks easier. I feel that a good grasp of simple machines could slightly improve my form and understanding of exercises.

Does anyone know a good book that explains simple machines in an easily understandable way?
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>>41315523
Schindlers List
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DOCTOR IS GONNA PUT ME ON CLOMID FOR 6 WEEKS BEFORE TRYING INJECTIONS

JUSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>41315523
wrong place friend

>>41315535
you're dumb
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>>41315523
holy fuck did you even go to school?

leverage and moment of force is like grade 8 or 9 shit.
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>>41315562
Clomid doesn't do shit injections are far superior
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>>41315576
you're in /fraud/ man, don't expect any mensa members to crawl out of the woodwork

>>41315577
just self medicate retard
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>>41311089
This is not how God explicitly told you in his own words how to speak to the unfaithful. Your soul shall be rebuked by the angels, and Satan shall be ravenous in his retribution. Repent.
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>Defy Medical doctor said he suspects I might have Kleinfelter's and recommends I get genetic testing done

I THOUGHT THIS DISEASE WAS JUST A MEME?
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bimbo?
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>>41315620
post hips and nips
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>>41315629
is this for real.

i want to laugh but fuck.
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>>41315535
Just keep the clomid and get some lgd433 or whatever and run that instead. When they retest you'll be even lower and they'll be like shiiiit.

>>41315620
Unless you look like a girl in terms of body shape I highly doubt it. My try doc made me do that shit too as well as an MRI to rule out pituitary tumors but they were both wastes if time and billed my insurance a fuck ton.
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Fellas isn't the halo liver toxicity over exaggerated? I read that the testing was done on rats and the mg to body mass they used was insane and even then it didn't cause detrimental affects. By mg to body mass I mean a human will never take that much and steroid user cycles are not even close to being that high.

What's the deal?
Reason I ask is because I've done halo cycles, drink a lot, even added winny/ tren to it. Got testing done when I was able to for free and everything was good.

Is this shit really just over exaggerated?
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>>41315620
this guy is right >>41315678
doctors just want to bill you for unnecessary shit. look at people with klinefelters, then look at yourself in the mirror naked. if you're not similar tell them to fuck off

>>41315683
>Fellas isn't the halo liver toxicity over exaggerated?
not really, and halo is a shitty compound when anything like adrol works just fine for strength, plus its cheaper

powerlifters use winny right before competitions because it has a short half life, literally anything fucking works dude just lift
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>>41315683
im gonna counter your anecdotal evidence with more anecdotal evidence saying i've seen smashed liver enzyme values from peeps on leddit.

some people can take it ez, some dont.
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Doctor said due to my high SHBG and low free test he wants to get my total test up to around 1500.

Should I just tolerate this clomid meme for 6 weeks and then get injections? Cruising legally at 1500 sounds nice, I'll get some winny and destroy my SHBG.
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>>41315748
I'd go with it if you actually want to go the legal route through defy but I'm not sure if I'd take the clomid even after filling the script. Clomid can fuck with your eyes pretty bad for some people.
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>>41315576
We covered it in grade 8 but my American public school teacher was garbage and it's not exactly knowledge you use every day, so I've forgotten the specifics.
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>libido steadily increasing

Wew lad, wasn't expecting that
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>>41315980
why not
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>>41315980
i have the highest libido on 250mg test.

Usually i can last for 2 weeks on nofap without going crazy, but now i cant even last for 3.
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>>41316260
no fap is already fuckin retarded, but no fap on gear... What the fuck are you trying to do?
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>>41311775

Arabs are 100% not white

But I did like Zyzz
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>>41316322
wanking calms me down too much personally, so i wouldn't say nofap is a meme in that regard
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>>41310301
Just read through the old thread, thanks to the anon who posted this. I needed to see this today. Thanks friendo

>>41313148
>tfw life so boring and worthless I'd actually join a IRL crusade for some adventure
This actually gives me something to roid for DEUS VULT
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>>41316437
>I'd actually join a IRL crusade for some adventure
you should read his manifesto
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So I have a useless fucking fat friend who hopes turning in his natty card will fix all his problems. Hes not "sketch" enough to use needles though, obviously.

Basically want to sell him stupidly overpriced orals and make the quick bucks- What would shock a normie more- DBol or SDrol? Don't really care if he keeps his gains just want him to take as much of this shit when hes going crazy at the gym his first few weeks.
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>>41316490
dbol if you want to give him tits
sdrol if you want to kill him
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>>41316322
ur an idiot, the point in nofap is to have a raging boners that make you want to pull girls every single second. If i fap too much i literally dont give a shit about girls anymore and dont bother approaching anyone.

also believe it or not but being on nofap for 2 weeks makes me behave differently too. The ridicilious libido makes me act much more confident and chaddish.

i dont judge you tho, beat your disgusting meat to cuck porn, i dont care
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>>41316505
>dbol if you want to give him tits

Oh then I have to sell him AI too, more money for me.


Maybe I'll throw in some Nolva for PCT or something- Ill have enough to pay for my next few cycles.
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>>41316572
and you still don't have a gf

Sad!

>>41316598
you're a good friend
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>>41316632
Ehh, even if he takes the dbol and works out like twice a week he will have better results than if he does it natty.

Besides that guy used to sell coke to me so I'd say we're even.
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>>41316660
>fat coke dealer
fucking americans
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How come clomid raises test but gives no extra gains

Explain this
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>>41316490
dnp, retard
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>>41316736
dude fuck off with your clomid already

buy real steroids if you want gains. your endo gibs aren't going to make you ripped
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>>41315225
>raw ground beef pls be a meme

>>41315980
>tfw libido is dead and can't keep it up on cialis and can't cum when I do get hard

Shit sucks m8, I think my AI is killing my dick
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>>41316762
I'm gonna take 100 mg a day fuck you. This should give me 2k test levels.
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>>41315980
its probably because your waifu is swelling with your offspring

did she kick you out of her nest yet?
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>>41316762

dude what the fuck is wrong with your skin? i see a lot of roid users with shit ugly skin, why?
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>>41316764
Who are you quoting?
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>>41316815
Highly androgenic compounds give you leather skin and acne
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>>41316815
>he doesn't know who levrone is
newfag

also its from shaving you twat, ingrown hairs mixed with oily androgenic skin = zits/acne

i shower with dish soap after workouts so i dont have an issue. never had acne even during puberty though so it could be genes
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>>41316827
I tried raw beef yesterday and felt nauseous stop this meme
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>>41316827
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did jerry get v&?
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>>41313972
always run anti bitch tits unless you watch bitch tits then don't
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>>41316999
seeing pics like this and girls like this irl make me want to kill myself
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>>41317071
why tho
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>>41317071
>>41317080
because you'll never be that desirable and cute
i feel the same way famalam
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>>41317080
>>41317096
Because they're perfect and I'll never have a perfect qt gf like that

U N O B T A I N A B L E

N

O

B

T

A

I

N

A

B

L

E
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>>41317127
wew lad i botched that, anyway off to the gym to mire qt's in sadness
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>>41317127
Cause you're a faggot
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>>41317127
>perfect
Lol no
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Is taking sust for the first weeks of a TestE cycle Wortorth it as a kickstarter?
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>Decide to finally man up and find a way to buy some test
>Find a good source
>Wanna use bitcoin so at least parents don't know what I'm up to (I've talked about this before but my parents watch my bank account)
>An hour ago buy $40 worth of bitcoin just to start out and see how it works
>Price has already started dropping and my $40 has been turned into $37
>Doesn't look like there's any indication of it going back up anytime soon

Now I'm not just poor, I'm also retarded.
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>>41317705
look, with bitcoin you have to do everything within a day

When you buy bitcoin today, you have to spend it as soon as it arrives in your wallet, do prevent getting into a shitty situation like this again.

also dont stop posting, you are like swollen glands, i have to laugh everytime you write something

bitcoin is going to raise to 20k$ per BTC in the next 20 years, so no worries :)
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>>41317741

That'd weird, especially considering it's been on the rise for the past few months. But whatever, I'm new to this kinda stuff. I should be fine, since it was only $40.

>also dont stop posting, you are like swollen glands, i have to laugh everytime you write something

idk what that means but if you're getting enjoyment out of my search for juice, then I'm happy for you senpai.
>>
Dumb question coming in from random shower thought.

Since staying on the same dose for a long period of time ends up yielding less results the longer you stay on, does a cruise also lose effectiveness in retaining muscle mass the longer you stay on?

For example: 500mg test for 6 months will end up giving little gains after a while, but will it still be able to retain the mass?
I know it's a retarted doses dor a cruise.
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>>41318074
>Since staying on the same dose for a long period of time ends up yielding less results the longer you stay on, does a cruise also lose effectiveness in retaining muscle mass the longer you stay on?
Not true
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>>41317861
you make me sad, i got 12usd in bitcoins from my last buy. post your id and ill donate some you poor cunt
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>>41318074

ofc
yes you lose effectiveness, but not to the extent where the dose cant hold your muscle mass anymore. Rather to the extent where you just make less gains.

hell i dropped from 500mg to 250mg and didnt lose a drop of gains
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>>41318104
i wouldnt say staying on the same dose makes the dose less effective, but its true that the longer you stay on steroids the less effective they become in general.
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>>41318140
That's not true.
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>>41318122
Thanks, thats all I needed to know.

Hopping of a pretty intense first Tren cycle into a cruise. Gained about 20+kg of lean mass in the 12 weeks I was on.

Was afraid of losing it if I dropped down on the test as well.

>>41318140
I always felt that the less effective part also comes form the fact that the more mass you have the harder it is to gain mass rather then the dosage and time.
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>>41318162
did you start with 40kg ausschwitz mode or what? 20kg lean mass in 12weeks what the fuck please go pro with thise kinds of genetics.
even with grams of tren thats an overstatement
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>>41318140
Wrong, the more mass you have the dose will be less "efective", it is not related to time on, androgen receptors upregulate
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>>41318194
500mg Test, 720mg Tren, 400mg Mast.

went from 57kg to 78kg while looking a losing fat.
I'm only 5'6 mind you.
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>>41318218
While losing fat*

Diet was 5000kcal for week 1-9 with the final part being 3000kcal for getting somewhat leaner.
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>>41317127
Step up and quit being such a little bitch about it and maybe you will find one. I happened to find one but she's got Auburn hair and hazel/green eyes
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>>41318207
>>41318162
yeah i know its the increased mass the makes get less gains, but i heard from various sources and experienced "roiders" that BnCing for years will result in less gains, as opposed to cycling.

But i dont want anyone to quote me on this and if this is true at all, then its only to a small extent.
>20+kg in 12 weeks

yeah no
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>>41310792
You are retarded and the fact you are even asking this shows you have done insufficient research to be considering roids.
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>>41318257
">20+kg in 12 weeks

yeah no"

Fuck it it's what the scale tells me.
What else could it be? Water weight?
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>>41318275
No human would know this without reading biometrics off of a chip literally. Why he'd even type that admitting to owning technology that isn't even public yet is beyond me especially when he could end up suicided for even talking about it

He probably just broke multiple laws regarding copyright and non disclosure agreements so have fun in prison
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>>41318111
1LEhSb6Raq6n4zq84SJPoccTBgpqXy8VwV

>Maybe posting my wallet address is a bad idea

On the other hand what's the worst that could happen.
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>>41318207
>androgen receptors increase in response to higher levels of androgens
I find that very hard to believe
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>>41318316
Thanks for the 37$, fag
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>>41318302
Water and glycogen
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>>41313651
Bumping this, someone please help.
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>>41318336
>$37

It's $36 now, my dude. You can have it if you can get it.
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>>41318356
I don't like the way Deca and Tren mix when switching mid cycle.
Gave me some gyno but got rid of it before it really settled.

I would go with lower 250mg Test E and 500mg Tren E for the 20 weeks.
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>>41318316
it takes a while apperently
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>>41318553
Oh shit, thanks! Guess that means I've got a little more to contribute to the cause.

>tfw I realize I've essentially become an e-beggar

Kill me senpaitachi
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>>41318617
you didnt beg i literally asked you to give me your details.
anyway its only 10 if it helps you use it to get swole
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>>41318438
Could it be the long half life of deca that caused this problem? If so I could just wait 2 weeks after the last nandrolone cyp injection while tapering down the test before starting the tren.
I haven't ran either compound before and I kind of want to try nandrolone to see what the hype is about but I also want to be lean and I feel like Ill never have a chance to run it after I pop my tren cherry.
>>
So because of my blockers and estro I'm going to be losing a lot of my gains, which is good because I need muscle catabolism to kick in so I'm all smooth and girly.

I was told that if I don't use my muscles, I'll lose them on the estro so I've gone back to using baby weights but everything is so light I'm doing fifteen to twenty reps per set.

What should I be doing if I don't want to be building muscle but I still want to be maintaining some strength? I assume a low protein high carb/fat diet ft. baby weight ppl daily and cardio.

Any other real suggestions?
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>>41317670
prop is better
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>>41318657
>anons being nice
huh
>>
>>41318979
cant have both mate, either girly and weak or manly and strong.
do some glute excercises to get that boipussi right and tight
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>>41318979
r u a grill
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>>41318979
>everything is so light I'm doing fifteen to twenty reps per set.
why would you bother, also this'll probably irritate your joints after a bit

just do excessive amounts of cardio and a leg routine like >>41319131 said

spend the rest of your time learning how to dress proper, use makeup and prostate orgasm
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>>41318657
G-god bless you anon
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>>41318334
there is some search that supports this

google it retard!
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>>41319131

>Cant have both male and female

Fuck. I see all these cis bitches who are jacked as fuck and I want in on the club. Have to look into glute routines. Feels so fucking weird to turn into a cardio bunny. Goodbye gains I guess.

>>41319167

One more upgrade and I'll be more fembot than you can handle, damn Chico why you so stoopid.

>>41319175

I figured low weight, high rep/set would be best for endurance training but this is all a very new venture thus why I asked. So cardio and legs it is then. I already got that daily plucking, shaving and pretty eyes routine nailed.
>>
I'm getting on legal test this week

Interesting enough, my family said finally and what took me so long to make this decision..
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>>41319291
>being such a beta faggot your family approves of using steroids.

must have been real bad.
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>>41319282
>One more upgrade and I'll be more fembot than you can handle
>bot

God please do Mettaton cosplay
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>>41319305
kek
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>>41319291
Fuck you nerd my doctor wants me to try the clomid meme for 6 weeks before injections
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>>41319282
buy an epilator when you're ready to have sex, the pain isn't so bad when you use it consistently

dress up like anzu and post pics
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>>41319305
>>41319314
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>>41319342
get some dnp while you're at it or else you're gonna end up even more fat.
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>>41319342
you should stop eating
>>
How to make gf not be itchy after she shaves vag? I like it shaven but she doesn't like doing it often because it burns and itches for days.

Nair?
>>
So fellow canucks, Tp has decided to go private and gd has been awol.
The fuck are we going to do now
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>>41319409
shaving and then smearing coconut oil generously.

smells good, gets rid of the itch aswell as being healthy.

>>41319425
purple poo labs
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>>41319409
Enjoy the pain/awkward feeling while you have it
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>>41319409
>he doesn't like hairy muff
not very patrician desu
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>>41319311
>Mettaton

Silly boys, come any closer and I'll be forced to show you... MY TRUE FORM.

>>41319331

Yeah, an epilator is on the list already. I borrowed a girlfriends to do my legs and they so smooth. Glorious epi, pluck then run over with a razor followed by ice cubes for legs so smooth boys slip and slide into my ladyboner.
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My mind finally consciously acknowledged the fact that just because I am hungry, it does not mean I absolutely have to eat.

I can now finally cut.

I've weighed myself every single day since December 2015. Pic related is my BW along the time. As you can see, quite inconsistent, Green line is when I started on just Test, Red line is when I added Tren. Blasted once with the Test at only 250mg e3d, then cruised on 100mg week and still going. Tren is at 125mg e3d. Gonna keep them both low and run for a while. Gonna cut to under 80kg if possible. Not gonna bother trying to measure bf% cause of how inaccurate any method that isn't expensive af is, so I'm not sure what exact weight to get to to be well into single digit bf%. I'm 182cm btw.
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>>41319474
Stop eating fatass
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>>41319474

>End up homeless, sell off 99% of possessions except bench, laptop and bed.
>Move in with girl I met who ended up being a fucking basket case, pick up amphetamine addiction because reasons.
>Can't afford petrol, can't afford to eat because trivia night at the pub literally on the same street as us was the one thing a week we had to look forward to and getting fucked up took priority.
>Skateboard everywhere because can't afford public transport.

That's how I went from 127kg to 59kg. Drugs are always the answer.
>>
>>41319409
>what is waxing?
>>
What do you say to doctors when you want to get your blood tests done? Do you tell the truth or just talk shit about libido and let them find out for themselves?
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>>41319631
Don't sleep the night before, go to early morning appt
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>pmsf lethargy
>keep falling asleep during accounting lectures

>>41316999
it would be nice to have less to do

>>41319631
libido is a good one
just go down the list of low test symptoms
be easy on the mood stuff though, my doc put down I went in for depression when I was trying to get initial blood test into endo
now they ask me all sorts of shit every time I go in
>>
>>41319631

If you can't speak to a doctor about your health, who can you speak to? There's no reason not to be honest really, the anxiety you feel can culminate but genuinely all they can do is refuse care to which you can question why they took their oath and if being a medical practitioner really is the career for them. There is patient confidentiality between the two of you which is legally binding and as long as you're not harming anyone or selling steroids they have no reason to speak on your behalf without your permission which they must have explicitly asked for.

Talk to your doctor man, and be honest with them. They can't help you if you don't help them. You're an adult, making adult decisions about your body which you are entirely capable of and allowed to do.

Humbly request that despite their opinion about the personal decision you've made, that they put their bias aside and then make a professional, medical judgement and provide adequate care based on that. They will respect you more for being honest than trying to lie and trick the system out of an irrational fear.
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Hey, /fraud/, so I got a bead on some clen recently
I'm just a fat powerlifter currently sitting at about 12-14% bf, 165 lbs.
My diet is okay, since I usually track macros, but what I'm wondering is if just taking clen would be enough to get me down to sub 10% bf, or if I need to be down to 10% natty before hopping on for it to be worth using?
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Why is it that sometimes, not all that often, some of the gear will leak out straight after pinning? It happened just now after I pinned. Is it because I pinned too fast?

Usually there's an air bubble stuck in the needle, so it's hard work pushing the plunger, but there wasn't today so it went very quickly.
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Week 4 , 500 mg test.
Gained only 2kg and veins.
Shrank my balls for shit gains. Kinda expected more.
FML
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>>41319756
Week 4 is when it starts kicking in m8. How long is your cycle?
>>
>>41319756
You know, the test doesn't reach peak values until around week 4-6. That's why people do 12-15 week cycles on test. Also, do you do 250 e3d or 500 at once?
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>>41319756
>roiding for this
>>
>>41319774

6 weeks.
First 2 weeks were also dbol 20 mg to kickstart.

Planed to jump from 81 to 87 kg, but im stuck at 83.

Can't up caloric intake cause my waist is up by 2 cm already
Doing 200-250 grams of protein per day.
>>
Who here ran all the esters of test... do they actually make a difference?

I keep reading that test prop has fewer sides on some forums and the opposite thing on others.

Will there be a difference between running 250 test-e EOD and test prop 1cc a day?
>>
>>41319818

I say that to myself every morning.

>>41319783
250 e3d
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>>41319824
>6 week cycle
why???????????????
>>
>>41319856

Cause why not?

fraud seems insane with 12+ week cycles and tren aces.

Wouldn't pin tren if someone gave it to me for free.
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>>41319127
I cant get prop
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>>41319826
test prop has a lighter ester weight, so mg per mg its actually stronger.

But really it depends on the stability of your bloods
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*inaudible scoff*
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>>41319886
I hope you're using test prop or ace
>>
>>41319998

It's enanthate. Prop and ace are not so common.
Why?
>>
>>41319748
Meh, it just happens sometimes. Don't worry about it, it's never a significant amount.

>>41319898
Fuck it, blast some sust then lad. Pin double your test dose
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>>41318275
Why's that? Steroids negative affects on the heart really only happen if you're taking large amounts for long periods of time.
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>>41319713
>There's no reason not to be honest really

Kek yes there is.

>Hello, this is Anon Life/Health Insurance company, how can I help?
>>Hello, yes I would like life/Health insurance.
>It says here on your medical file you abused anabolic steroids. Sorry we're going to refuse you service or charge you a massive fuck off fee.

This is why I get private bloods done and learnt how to self-medicate.
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>tfw never will live in Alaska and lift stones on the top of a mountain
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>>41315629
holy fuck
what a bitch
>>
>>41320031
Enjoy ending your cycle right as soon as you hit peak levels then.
>>
>>41319926
>>41320448
but you can eat raw ground beef from the comfort of your lazyboy recliner NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP

REEEEEE
>>
>>41319824
>>41320031
>>41319886
sickest bait ever fuck, made me actually mad reading this dumb shit,
>>
I'm on day 4 of dbol. How long before I notice it working? I took 25mg, 25mg, 25mg, and 50mg today. Was I dosing too low on the first 3 days?
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>>41320658
I'm sorry but >>41320448 is an imposter. I've also eaten my chunk of raw beef for today.
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MAKE A NEW FUCKING THREAD
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>>41320814
no need until the thread reaches page 10
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>>41320815
stfu geek gimme ur lunch money
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>>41320873
o-okay here
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>>41320694
Too low lad, give it a week
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>>41320873
It's in my ass, you're gonna have to fish it out yourself.
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>>41320897
Come to daddy
>>
How come I can only see my abs in meme lighting am I just too fat reeee
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>>41320983
just fall for the dnp jew already
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>>41320814
sigh


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