/fat/ - fatty general

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I LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT NOW WHERE IS MY CUTE TUMMY

MyFitnessPal ids go

i posted this in the old thread just before it died and i sustain myself with (You)s so i'm reposting it here

>buy a XL shirt at the mall without trying it on, thinking it'd be fine cause i bought some XL shirts from a different store and they were a little bit big for me
>get home
>it's pretty tight to get on or off

m-my pride

at least it looks fine when it's on, the fabric is pretty thick so it retains some shape and i'm not like bulging out of it.

>>41326263
are you the cat? if so, cute

>>41326143
A fair assumption, but still, bench pressing the bar shouldn't be hard even then.

>>41326232
There were a lot of kids in my high school weightlifting class who had trouble with the bar. Never quite got why. They tended to be either really short or tall and skeleton-like.

>Be running ~1200 deficit, normally weigh on Sundays
>Been kinda' shitty with calories all week from trying out new recipes and trying to eat old food before it goes bad
>This morning have breakfast, do exercises (~20 minutes weightlifting) and shower, afterwards figure I might as well get a sneak peak of how badly I've fucked up
>3 lbs down anyway

Not sure if I should be glad or see this as another reason to ignore irregular weighings.

>>41326333
well, for me, i'm actually pretty fat, i'm working on it now but i wasn't in high school, so i was probably around 250 at that time. i've never done anything that would train upper body strength and i've never needed to. i spent (and i still do desu) 95% of my waking time sitting in front of a computer.

nowadays it's getting a little better, cause i play DDR competitively and have to hold myself up with my arms on the bar. so with that + losing weight i'm noticing the muscles in my arms more and more.

So is going from 201lbs to 135lbs realistic if I amp up my workouts?

>>41326381
Depends on your height and how much muscle you have.
Though nothing stops you from going down to 12%bf

Are there any good bodyweight workout routines?

>>41326393
5'5

>>41326265
Cutehotdog

>>41326381
You should ramp down the calories or it won't matter how much you workout.

>>41326363
The body weight is stange like that, sometimes you lose 10 pou ds doing the same routine then next week you loose 3 then the next week you weight yourself ad it shows you lose 15. Just be constant and watch your daily calories intake.

>>41326265
All 10 of us have each other added already.
If any of you fat fucks don't log in for a week you're gone tubby.
Captain_Hookz

>>41326444
Why do you guys always say workout doesn't matter?
Isn't exercise part of the "calories out"?

>>41326489
Sure but what will it matter if you workout and then have 2 whole pizzas as a meal? Workout will only kill like half of one pizza.

>>41326399
If you're completely out of shape, can't do a push-up, etc., there's this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/kb/recommended_routine
Yeah, yeah, it's reddit. Who cares, just try out the routine.

If that isn't challenging enough, try this bodyweight PPL routine:
http://antranik.org/bodyweight-training/

>>41326489
Yeah but you use up like 2000kcal from being alive and doing an hour of exercise is gonna be like 5% of that

>>41326508
What if I start using a stationary bike then when I get to an ideal weight I start doing push up? Wouldnt that maximize my gains?

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Contest fag here.

Anyone else want to participate? We're doing a weekly weigh in (first one is 05/12) and building up a competition among the /fat/ties.

Details I need:
Name -
Height -
Starting Weight -
Current Weight -
Goal Weight -
If you have under 30 lbs to lose until your goal give me that number and the losertown goal date for THAT specific weight otherwise give me the date for 20 lbs of loss.

I'll add you to the list and we'll shit on each other every Friday.

>>41326538
I'm not sure I understand your question. Both cardio from the bike and resistance training from push-ups help with weight loss.

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>>41326399

>>41326569
Yes but as in getting muscle gain in the leg muscles with intense biking and then getting the muscle gain from the push up to helping getting a pelvis marked V.

>>41326489
No. You don't count the calories burned from a workout if you want to lose some serious weight.
70lbs is quite a bit and it sounds like you're a grill, so you don't get the benefits of raising your tdee by building muscle.

Cardio burns quite a bit if you do it right, but that doesn't give you the excuse to eat more.

>>41326567
Bandabydoo
197cm
105.5kg
84.7kg
Not really sure but I'm sure it can't be that much further past 80kg
I'll try to get to my goal by the 27th of June that will be 6 months from when I started.

>>41326265
kyli2

Also if that losertown competition anon is here from last thread I'd like to join.
Name: kyli2
Height: 5'8"
Starting weight: 150lbs
Current weight: 144 lbs
Goal weight: 135 lbs
Losertown goal date: 9/08/17

>>41326600
I was planning to stick to 1000-1200 calories and ramping up more cardio or HIIT

>>41326596
Why put one off? Do upper body resistance training and light cycling on one day, then heavy cycling for leg gainz the next.

>>41326567
>>41326623
I fucked up, please add me.

>>41326633
What would be considered upper body resitance training?

>>41326567
I don't have much more to lose but I'll participate.
Name: Ohhi
Height: 5'2"
Starting weight: 165 lbs
Current weight: 126 lbs
Goal Weight: 118 lbs
Losertown goal date: 06/23/2017

>>41326627
That's fine then. Yes cardio will help tons.

how is the BDD guys?
>162 lb
>6"
and yet i still think i don't even resemble a human form.

>>41326695
Holy fuck you are skelly

>>41326627
there's no way you're going to "stick to" 1000-1200 calories u retard. since you're 200 pounds use an online calculator and use the sdentary option. at this weight you can lose eating like 1500, take advantages of it because the closer you get to goal is when you'll have to eat those small amounts.

>>41326700
>BMI 22
>Skelly
Mine is 20 and my bf% is still quite high...

>>41326700
i think i'm a hamplanet :/

>>41326644
Push ups, dips, pull ups, rows, L-sits.

>>41326695
It fucking sucks because someone will compliment me or hit on me and all I can think is that they're just fucking with me and it's some joke and I actually have shit on my face or whatever.

>>41326722
/fit/ does that to you

>>41326719
Being 6' and less than 180 is just skelly mode

>>41326745
it's one thing to be kinda fat, but it's the part of me that bypasses the "you could lose 10 more pounds" mindset and goes straight to the "holy fuck you're disgusting and your body doesn't even look like what a human body should"
have you ever seen that my 600 pound life episode where Dr. Now does that to steven? that's what it's like constantly, especially if you consider the stretch marks. hold me bro.

>>41326755
Not if you have no muscle

>>41326781
Body Hair does wonder to hide the stretch marks

>>41326806
i wish :(

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RIP Anon's diet, died on the 5th of May 2017

It was murdered by a Frank and Benny's two course meal, for starter a cheese and mushroom bake with a side of ciabatta bread, likely over 1000 calories alone.

It may have lived, but it was then hit by a burger, a huge plate of fries and a small bowl of coleslaw. It is estimated this meal as a whole had probably 3000 calories at least. Anon's diet and gains never stood a chance. He even had a diet pepsi but this was not enough.

May Anon's diet rest in peace. Press F to pay respects.

>>41326864
Hahahha, you can indulge like this once, like every 5 months. Just be sure to do an extreme workout when you get home.

>>41326864
That's an R+M1 case, not an F.

>>41326567
Anal_S
6'0
331.5
244.0
170
Losertown date for 20 pounds of loss 07/14

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>>41326781
>know the feel

>>41326912
and it's ridiculous because i bet you and me aren't even over 200 pounds. but fat people can live their whole lives not even realizing they look like ice cream cones

is there a /fat/ discord? or something you'd guys like to talk on outside of /fit/? i-itd be kinda cool to become buddies with some of you.

>>41326883
Yeah I fucked up horribly. Doesn't help it's already getting annoyingly slow with the weight loss, it's so ruined.

>>41327025
Not that I know of there should be one though

>>41327025
I second this

>>41327025
Discord is a mess of circlejerking, you guys dont want this.

>>41327184
This

>>41327184
Agreed. It'll just devolve in to cringy memes and cocksucking.

>>41327184
hmmm alright. should we stick to this or is there anything else besides discord we could do? I like the contest anon, maybe if there was a way for all the contestants to keep in touch during the contest without trpfagging

>>41327333
Namefagging >>> Discord in all honesty. Imo we should just stick to posting here.

>>41326896
>>41326662
>>41326623
>>41326618
>>41326567
Added. See ya'll next Friday.

Well I just bought some protein powder to get more protons in my life. I never realized how lacking in protons the standard South Indian diet is. Hopefully this'll help my weight loss (still doing cico ofc).

Any ideas how my body will feel with more protein now? Perhaps more protein than I've ever had in my life?

>>41327481
eventually small things will just be easier to do than they used to be.

If I'm at 190lbs with mostly body fat, what would be a sensible weight to cut down to as a long-term goal?

>>41327363
Create a public Google doc my dude. That way people can request changes and everyone can view it.

>>41327481
>http://antranik.org/bodyweight-training/
along with the protons, enjoy the test, increase in actual muscles while losing weight and above all the constant urge to want to hunt wimins

>>41327481
You need to lift as well.

>>41327639
H E I G H T
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>>41327639
Oops, forgot. 6ft on the dot.

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>already at 3000 cals by noon

>>41327879
No more eating today for you fatty.

>>41327879
How can you even manage that?

>>41327910
my guess, he ate fast food.

>>41327910
That's like 3 hamburgers from Carl's Jr.

>>41327879
S T O P
T
O
P

make a choice anon. Play it cool for the rest of the day, and make damn sure you to better tomorrow.

>>41327824
Is good idea.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1caYcqS_Vakx7S86gyXSemoKWFzQi8fOpXA93RxTz_o8/edit?usp=sharing

Last Friday: 281.8 lbs
Today: 283 lbs

I've been sub 1600 calories every day and tracking them religiously.

What the hell?

>>41326265
BirthdayGirlAnon

>>41327910
Pint of ben and jerrys is about 1000 cals. Rest was taco bell and mcdicks

>>41327879
What the fuck, how? I cant even make that in a whole day even if I tried and I'm currently 207lbs.

>>41327966
It takes a while anon, be sure to be constant on your calories intake and try to exercise even for 30 minues a day. You can do it, after two weeks you can weight yourself and will see the difference, dont weight daily.

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>>41326781
he left humanity behind

>>41326567
>Name - broteinfordays
>Height - 5'11"
>Starting Weight - 328
>Current Weight - 282.6
>Goal Weight - 180
June 16th.

>>41326695
I have no idea what I look like. Thought I was fat, saw a pic of myself and dont look fat, say another and I look fat. Same thing happens in the mirror. I end up searching gooogle for people with same stats or measurements as me so I can estimate what I look like.

>>41326695
Post pics nigga

>>41327966
weigh yourself in the morning after you piss in your undies

>>41327333
>>41327354
Yeah we should just namefag, I'm guesing it's the same posters daily... At least I'm here daily.

>>41328143
Same...........

>>41326265
snapplecat

Added quite a few from last time.

>It's friday
fuckkk

>>41328140
Unless you dress like a retard your clothes aren't going to vary in weight by more than half a pound. You can strip down if it makes you feel better though.

>>41327025
Honestly a Discord might be nice for some non-/fit/-appropriate discussion.

>>41328217
>it's a lifting and looking at the ceiling hoping to die week-end

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>>41328040

>>41326567
Normally use metric but I'll use imperial for the competition.
Name - snapplecat
Height - 6'2"
Starting Weight - 299
Current Weight - 284
Goal Weight - 198

For calculating actual BMR is it better to use lean body mass or just ideal weight for my size?

I'm no scientist but im pretty sure i shouldn't be eating 2400 calories to be at a 500 deficit

>>41328140
I don't piss in my undies, ever, let alone eery morning. WTF, anon?

>inb4 muh phrasing

>>41326695
Post before and after pics Mr skeltal

>>41326567
Am I still in time to partecipate?

Name Duna
Height 5'7''
Starting 194
Current 161
Goal Weight 143
Losertown goal date: 6/30/17

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official theme song of the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSiRFgxa-c

>>41328368
If you want to be at a 500kcal deficit then use your actual weight and not BMR, but TDEE at "sedentary" (unless you are really active that is pretty accurate). Counting for you ideal bodyweight just makes your deficit bigger, if that's what you want. Anyway it's just an estimation and ideally after some time you should adjust your calories based on your weight loss rate.

>lost 7 lbs a week taking only 200mg dnp which is a babby dose
>only a 500 deficit

Jelly nattycucks?

Fat fucks

>>41327025
>implying I'm not too socially awkward to talk to strangers from the Internet with my voice

>>41328481
Thanks

>>41328472
Really? I think I'd be comfortable doing a tiny dose of DNP, but I didn't think it made any difference until you got to the larger doses. How often did you dose 200mg, given the 36 hr half life?

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>>41328502
Every 24 hours. Which lead to a 500mg accumulation.

>tfw eating scoops of raw protein power
a-at least it fits my macros

>>41326278
Here. Take this (you)

>>41328511
I thought 500mg was a normal fucking dose.

How did it make you feel?

Height and weight when starting?

>>41326265
Delarge2001

>>41326265
I don't want people to see what I eat everyday.

While people that use myfitnesspal are active in this thread.. I lost a game of soggy waffle. How do I enter the semen into myfitnesspal? Should i only add the waffle? it was ego brand if that matters

>>41328606
It's not that bad. Helps keep you honest, and when everyone likes your random automatic updates it's pretty encouraging.

Post it, faggot.

>>41328296
Gimme your losertown goal date for 20 lbs

>>41328431
Added

>>41328115
Added

Document with public commenting has been made too.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1caYcqS_Vakx7S86gyXSemoKWFzQi8fOpXA93RxTz_o8/edit?usp=sharing

>>41326265
Suneku

>>41328627
There are around 20 calories in a semen

>>41328606
Also you can just turn off food diary sharing, babe.

>>41328639
So what do we win?

>>41328659
Boasting rights? Pride in yourself for losing weight? Nothing, nigga. It's just an arbitrary competition for dick waving priv.

Anybody here know the best times to fast/eat on a keto intermittent fasting diet?

I've been doing 4 hour eating window from 6-10pm and I'm usually extremely tired during that time because my body is digesting food but then have so much energy after its hard to sleep.

I was thinking of changing it to 2-6pm windows.

What windows do you guys think is best to eat all calories.

>>41328659
Well, you'll be 20 pounds lighter so that's a plus.

>>41328680
I stop eating around 8pm, fall asleep by 10pm-ish.

>>41326567
If you're still adding, include me pls.
Suneku
5'4
204.6 lbs
196.2 lbs
Goal: 150

20 lbs date: 7/5

Ive lost 17 punds in the last 1.5 months but its starting to catch up with me. Today I blew out my lower back just deadlifting 335x4. Oops. Gues my lower back hadnt healed from the sledgehammer workouts which burn a lot of fat btw. Ill probably only eat 2000-2200 calories today so its getting impossible to keep up with my workouts. My body doesnt heal fast enough to maintain my workout schedule.

Also try megadosing Taurine, like 5-9 grams per day. Its helps you utilize more protein and it increases glycogen production.

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Started at 204 pounds January 20th..
It's May 5th and now I'm 175.2. My goal is 135 by 2018 and eventually 110 by next April. Is this good progress? I eat 1000 cals or less. Is my body made for 110 pound weight? I'm 5'3.

>>41328691
>Watched Fed Up today
>Didn't realize insulin spikes cause fat
>Measured how much sugar I put in my coffee
>Roughly 1 tablespoon in measuring spoon
>Which I thought was a teaspoon
>Did some basic math
>Consuming about 14000 calories of sugar a month
>Probably more because I did the math for only 5 cups of coffee a day
>Dropped sugar all together
>Should be dropping weight like a motherfucker now

>>41328725
London?

>>41328716
Added

>>41328725
Started at 204 too, lol. My goal is 130, 110 seems a bit light but likely not too much. Plus, I eventually want to start lifting so I don't wanna be too light, but I'd reccomend whatever you'd like as long as its healthy, yknow?

>>41328725
T H I C C

>>41328725
>figure comparison photos
>you can't even fucking make out stomach fat or anything
Are you retarded?

>>41328725
Looks reasonable if you're just dieting,

>>41328680
Keto is a meme. Simple sugars (sucrose and fructose) and protein is all you need to fuel your body, especially when trying to lose weight. Without carbs you become hypoglycemic. Read raypeatforum.com and raypeat.com.

>>41328725
Aim for 115-120lbs, and lift, for the love of God lift or you'll have many regrets.

1000 calories seems drastic but I'm a 6'6 guy who's consuming 3000 to cut to 200.

>>41328725
up your cals so you don't plataeu eating 1k cal's at like 150 or something. The Idea is to do the LEAST amount possible for the most results. If you're eating 1k, chances are you're losing muscle too and you'll end up being skinny fat. I recommend using a BMR calculator to find your resting cals and eat that while exercising. If you don't lose weight, lower by ~300 cals each week until you do.

>>41328725
>using MySpace angles and clothes that show no skin as progress pics

Dumb bitch can't see shit

>>41328653
per serving?

>>41328725
Just like my animu manga kun

>>41328750
I used to work out solely with a bench press with a leg addition and I had expected to be 140 with my perfect bod. But now I just work in fast food as my exercise (plus hiking, walking, etc.). And I plan to be much lighter with less muscle mass. Thank you for your input as I was worried if that might be an unhealthy goal
Btw my myfitnesspal id is lisasine1

>>41328639
Sorry, my losertown goal date is 24 November.

>>41328824
For 20 lbs? Added.

>>41328850
Oops, missed the 20lbs part. Should be 30th June.

>>41328795
Yes

Why don't you all simply do keto ?

If you're not stupid and do a well formulated keto diet you can literally do a 1500 kcals deficit without any side effect and you would keep a stable and high energy level .

Ill be careful apple >>41326567

i can live on 800 a day been doing it for the last 2 months

>>41328872
>1500 kcals deficit without any side effect and you would keep a stable and high energy level

this is a lie

>>41328915
Why?Besides getting extremely hungry until meal time

>>41328762
The whole point was to get into my smaller clothes for the summer heat so it makes sense in my case to track which clothes I'm wearing and how they fit and appear on my body. Also that mirror is in someone's kitchen.
>>41328781
I've been looking into getting another bench press since I've moved but I only make a small amount of money every two or so weeks but heyyyyy today is payday and I saw one for $100.
>>41328783
I want to be able to get to my goal fast as well.. It's been really hard not to get obsessive over it, but also constantly self checking. I make a meal plan, try to extend my fullness as long as possible, and I end up eating less with more nutrients. Today I'm having Greek yogurt, fat free cottage cheese, two cans of tuna, several tomatoes, mushrooms, peppers, and health nut bread. Also a Dairy Queen mini blizzard as a treat. And remaining under 900 calories.
>>41328794
Yeah I agree, but this is the way I will look to people in my mind. I'm a dumb bitch sometimes and without my glaaaasses I can't see shit :^)

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>>41328928
Try riding a bike for more than an hour.

>>41328691
im not that anon, but i go to the gym at 1am.

>>41328725
You're not very pretty with a shit shaped body rn. Good news is that you dont look 175lbs

Lose another 50lbs. Eat 1200lb a day, lift weights to shape your lower body. Good luck.

>>41328915
How you going to form glycogen without carbs? Keto is a nice hack for those that can pull it off but youre probably going to lose muscle and glycogen just as much as fat. A no fat diet is better.

>>41328956
>no fat diet

just fuck my hormones up senpai

>>41326567
my man add me when you can
Name: Zethie5
Height: 5'11"
Starting weight: 220lbs
Current weight: 198lbs
Goal weight: 165lbs
Losertown goal date: 06/23/2017

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>>41328955
How do I get rid of my lumpiness? I am lumpy

>>41328989
lose fat gain muscle
lift while eating at a slight deficit and making sure you get enough protein.

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>>41328955
>eat 1200lb a day
yes

>>41328977
like a teaspoon of fat takes care of that, you're gonna get that much even if you try not to have any

>>41328989
Just gotta keep losing weight. I have violin hips too and it makes me sad.

>>41329000
>lift while eating at a slight deficit and making sure you get enough protein.

500 calories will be fine. once you're down to 20% body fat start maintaining or slow bulking while continuing to lift to put on curves

>yfw beauty takes work

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>>41326567
mfp ID GetSirius

GetSirius
6'5
256
250
190
10/24/17

>>41328977
also you're carrying like 50 pounds of fat

>>41328989
Learn proper posture, your toes aren't supposed to point inwards. It's not cute even when performed by anime girls.

>>41328725
The pics suck. Wear bra / underwear, so you can actually see your body. Don't pose. Stand straight with good posture. Don't twist or contort. Just straight shots. Honestly can't see a difference between those pictures, most likely due to your angles meant to hide weight. At 5'3 115 120 is prime weight

Who /5 pounds within goal weight/ here?

>>41329152
8 pounds here

>>41329152
>>41329177
Wow congrats you guys that is awesome

>>41328659
You make it.

Is anyone else here nervous about meeting their goal weight? I plan to start lifting more after I get there but it was so easy to get fat in the first place so I'm worried it'll be easy to fall victim to my old habits.

>>41329152
>>41329177
You sure or it?
My goal was 80 kg then it turned out I'm still fat so I moved it to 75 then it turned out I'm skinnyfat so now I'm aiming for 70 (183cm). Unless you're ripped you won't look good until you reach the lower third of the normal BMI range.

>>41329242
it's tricky, the thing is that even when you meet your goal weight you have to keep going, because if you stop everything will be back to how it was.

>>41329065
Fat from foods doesn't make fat friendo. It's extremely important if you're male to eat healthy fats.

>>41329321
>Fat from foods doesn't make fat

what does it make?

>>41328956
Once you're keto adapted ,glycogen will replenish from dietary protein & glycerol in your body , unless you train 2x a day you'll always have enough glycogen for a workout , and if you don't workout at all your body won't need glycogen .

Keto is the most muscle-sparing paring diet out there .

>>41329152
Yeah I hit my original goal (220) gained 5lbs back and now I want to hit 180lbs.

>>41329242
>I plan to start lifting more after I get there
>after I get there
You should be lifting NOW. You gain get noob gains and some muscle even on a cut.
You'll increase your TDEE by gaining muscle and you'll look 100x better. Start lifting NOW.

>>41329275
This. I'm smack dab in the middle of healthy BMI range and I still look like shit.

>>41328945
> Bonking in keto

it's litereally THE main selling point for athlete , in keto you CANNOT BONK if you do endurance .

>>41329349
Can you read?
>lifting MORE
I am already doing it.

>>41329335
Testosterone dumbass.
Dietary fat helps test production and regulating insulin levels/blood sugar, which is extremely important if you're a fatfuck who is probably close to diabetes.
Low fat diet is possible the worst thing a male can do.

>>41329364
yeah because you're already bonked at the start

Show me one endurance athlete that does low carb.

>>41329275
>>41329353
Really depressing to hear, I'm aiming for the middle of the healthy BMI range and are one kg away from the upper limit right now. I've been lifting the whole time so maybe I have a chance at looking decent.

>>41329370
Lift MORE now. Lift at the level you'd lift if you were at your target weight. There is no reason not to, and it'll help so you don't ''bounce back''.

>>41329394
>I've been lifting the whole time so maybe I have a chance at looking decent.
Yes, that will help a fuck load. You may want to go below your original target and then slowly bulk back up to it.

>>41329382
>and regulating insulin levels/blood sugar

Yeah by spiking it.
Also give me one study (not a fucking livestrong article) that says dietary fat is necessary for test production or at least gives some concrete numbers on how the amount affects test levels.

>Step on scale

>can't see reading because of gut

If I lean forward the needle jumps around

>>41329387
A lot of ultra endurance runner choose keto because they don't have to refuel as much or at all , during keto your muscle will get close to 100% of their energies from fat and your brain will use 80% of its energy from fat , you will never reach a state where brain & muscle are competing for energy because you never lack energy , you CAN NOT Bonk .

>>41329437
Talking scale, son

>>41329444
1 name

What should I do if I dont have weights or means to go to a gym? Should I focus on doing push up sit ups and pull ups?

I have a friend who wants to gain some weight (husky/chubby is his end goal). He wants its evenly distributed and wants to avoid stretch marks.
He lifts 4 times a week with a really good intensity. What kinda stuff should he eat to get chubby fat while continuing to lift.
I dont know if my diet is helping him with his goals because my high cal diet is generally pretty healthy high protein low sugar for body building. Will he have to eat lots of sweets to get plump?

>>41326368
People who hold the bar are human garbage. There I said it.

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>>41326265
scalykitty

today I ate a banana and a glass of milk. made my way to the gym and did 30 min of cardio before the fire alarm went off. Going to eat some veggies now along with my 2nd dnp pill of today.

How to replace bread? I've found that it's one of the reasons I fuck my shit up during holidays at home. Sandwiches are fucking good but it's so easy to overeat them and bread has those non-satiating calories.

>>41329152
>>41329177
I'm in the last 10 pounds range. I'm not even fat, I just want a crazy body.

>>41329436
Dietary fat isn't necessary for test production but low fat will mean lower test.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6538617
>"Our results indicate that in men a decrease in dietary fat content and an increase in the degree of unsaturation of fatty acids reduces the serum concentrations of androstenedione, testosterone and free testosterone."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8942407
> Men's daily urinary excretion of testosterone also was 13% higher with the high-fat

For fun, even male mice get more TEST from dietary fat.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14666150

>jawline slowly starting to appear
>its shit

bittersweet feel, but at least its progress

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>>41329459
Google bodyweight exercises and do everything under the sun.

>>41329511
Lettuce wraps.
Or get some fucking protein bread if you can find it. Pic related, what I eat.
>180 calories for two slices
>16g protein
>18g carbs

Or if you want to REALLY low ball it, there is bread that is 45 cals a slice.

>>41329476
>that pic
So I'm thinking of switching out my lunch sandwich for a protein shake and then having meat and veg for dinner, then next week switching to just protein shakes.
Anyone done a protein shake fast?
Is it worth it?

>>41329605
I've done a protein bar and protein shake fast.
I don't recommend an all liquid diet and purely protein shakes isn't exactly the healthiest. Maybe do it for a few days, but add in a multivit and veggies.

>>41329511
you dont replace bread, you stop eating sandwiches like a retard and get a more fulfilling meal instead
if you do eat bread make sure you dont fall for misleading labels, eat good bread

>>41329621
Got a beach trip coming up. Been doing 800 cal or less but not hitting protein goals. I dont know what else to do except consume nothing but meat and lettuce.

>>41329604
>there is bread that is 45 cals a slice

Yeah it's called whole grain rye.

>>41329621
I've been completely fine with a diet that is 50% liquid just drinking milk everyday while cutting at 1600kcal

>>41329641
Chicken and veggies would be much healthier. You could literally eat 16oz of chicken breasts for ~100 protein ~500 calories then fill yourself up with veggies. Maybe throw in 1 fruit (an orange or apple) every other day. Spinach, bellpeppers, carrots, cucumbers, pickles, broccoli, etc.

This would be much more balanced/healthy and still be low (700-900 cals) while filling you up.
Liquid cals are shit and aren't filling. It's why people are so at, everyone drinks their calories.

>>41329604
Is this a good routine? What will I get bodywise if I do this every day for three months? My current excercise is 30 minutes of vigorous pedaling on a stationary bike at resistance 10/10 and 5/10 each teo minutes.
So my plan is: do stationary bike training at 12pm
Then do the bodyweight excercise at 6pm.

Do you think this will bring good results? I am already watching my calories intake and I have no problem with that, eating 1400 cal a day.

>>41329773
Forgot to include the routine: https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/beginner-body-weight-workout-burn-fat-build-muscle/

Would love the advice

just ate 12 chicken breasts. think i'm dying

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>>41329773
>>41329785

Bodyweight routines wont give you a super amazing body, especially going from fat to less-fat, however it'll still build more muscle than doing just biking and balance out your body a bit.
I've always been a fan of pic related, as it has progressions that can help you tell where you're at, and if you're improving you can move up on certain exercises.

>>41329794
Do I understand correctly that you ate over 3 kilograms of chicken meat?

>>41329794
BRUH

>>41329824
yes. i had 4 for breakfast and 5 for lunch and then i had 3 for dinner 30 minutes ago. i have left humanity

How can I get 90g protein every day without eating meat? If possible, something with only a few calories would be great.

>>41329852
protein powder.

>>41329814
This obviously need some tools that I dont have though. Bodywise, will I have some sort of abs in a matter of three months?

>>41329860
Doing the >>41329785 workout I mean.

>>41329858
I've never looked into it. Does it really not have many calories?

>>41328987
Added

>>41329052
Give me your losertown goal date for 20 lbs and I'll update your entry.

>>41329860
It doesn't require any tools mate. Pullups are the only thing on there requiring anything. Otherwise you can use chairs, walls, etc for the assisted shit.
>abs
>3 months

How am I supposed to know how much you weigh and your height?
The answer is absolutely no regardless. Try for next summer buddy.

>>41329852
Cottage chesse (quark is godlike), tofu, tempeh, eggs. Also beans/chick peas/lentils are pretty cool.

>>41329851
Sounds stupid, why would you do that?

>>41329878
100-140 calories for 20g-30g of protein.

>>41329898
Ext summer is perfectly okay, I am 207lbs 5'7, should I do the routine and rest days in between or what? I dont wanna damage my muscles eaither as I am already gaining muscle mass on my legs with the bike.

>>41329904
I wish I liked stuff like quark or yogurt, it's great for only a few calories.
But sadly I don't.
Might have to try out tofu though, thanks.

>>41329912
Almost 300 calories for a daily ration is pretty harsh.

>>41329915
>I am 207lbs 5'7
>will I have abs in 3 months
I get the feeling you may not have read the sticky

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>>41329915
I assure you you're not going to overtrain by doing bodyweight.
I'm doing PPLPPLX and I'm fine, pic related is my routine.
I'd probably do 2 days in a row, 1 break day, then 2 days.

You could easily do it 7 times a week though. It's not like weightlifting, the recovery time for most of those is much quicker.

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>>41329881
GetSirius here,
20lb goal is 9/1/17

>>41329946
>Almost 300 calories for a daily ration is pretty harsh.
How delusional are you?

>>41329946
On its own quark is not good, I mix it with fruit but I assume you don't want those extra calories (pretty healthy though).

Tofu on the other hand is pretty bland so I would recommend at the very least using some spices.

>>41329952
I was asking to scale the difficulty and intensity of it, my aim is not to have any abs or whatever just reaching my goal is enough.

>>41329960
That is great, so I can mix both my workouts and maximize gains with not worrying of becoming dead, thanks anon

>>41329975
Fixed.

>>41329960
I'm on a PPL routine as well but I do PPLXPPLX so on my 'rest' days I try and hit the fitness standard for Army MEPS.

I've also added some abdominal accessory work to the PPL days, in line with whatever function I'm doing to work that section.

Any recommendations? I can post the full plan, if you want to give me a review.

>hit plateau weight
>cutting to 1900 cals
>can't find a gym to lift

Help

>>41329978
My TDEE is 1600 -> 1200 a day. 300 IS a lot for me, especially if it's liquid.

>>41329988
Fruits are great in small quantities, so I do eat some fruit(mainly apple). Will try it out, thanks!
What kind of fruit do you use?

>>41330034
I wish I could do PPLXPPLX but I have to line up my lifting days with work/school, and that'd cause issues.

Plate twist, cable crunches, planks, decline crunch(weighted), etc what other ab stuff did you add?
You don't need to lift at all for the Army though unless you mean lose enough weight. Pretty sure they do body measurements which is fucking STUPID if you have a lot of muscle, and then cardio shit for the actual test.

>>41330077
Bananas are my favourite, but any sweet kind should work. Sometimes I mix quark with egg yolk and add a little sugar but I use it mostly to fill my pancakes.

>>41330077
300 calories to hit your protein goal is the best you'll get out of any possible protein in your diet, especially on no meat.
Even quark is ~500 calories for 90g protein.

>Whenever you interview fat people, you feel bad, because you know you're not going to hire them

daily reminder this is a quotes from james watson 50% of the team who discovered DNA

>>41326265
Roflbecca

>>41330093
It's mostly the cardio for basic and the long jump for MEPS. The rest I can breeze through. Here's the routine

Pull 1
1x5+ Deadlift
3x8-12 Pulldown
3x8-12 Seated cable rows
5x15-20 Face Pulls
4x8-12 Hammer Curls
4x8-12 Dumbbell Curls
4x8-12 Standing Cable Lifts
4x8-12 Cable Crunches

Push 1
4x5, 1x5+ Bench
3x8-12 OHP
3x8-12 Incline DB Press
3x8-12 Tricep Pulldowns - 3x15-20 Lat Raise SS
3x8-12 Skullcrushers - 3x15-20 Lat Raise SS
4x8-12 Ab Wheel - 4xF Plank

Legs 1-2
2x5, 1x5+ Back Squat
2x5, 1x5+ Front Squat
3x8-12 Romanian Deadlift
3x8-12 Leg Press
3x8-12 Leg Curls
5x8-12 Calf Raises - 5xF Leg Raises SS

Pull 2
4x5, 1x5+ Barbell Rows
3x8-12 Pulldowns
3x8-12 Seated Cable Rows
5x15-20 Face Pulls
4x8-12 Hammer Curls
4x8-12 Dumbbell Curls
4x8-12 Landmine 180s
4x8-12 Cable Crunches

Push 2
4x5, 1x5+ OHP
3x8-12 Bench Press
3x8-12 Incline DB Press
3x8-12 Tricep Pulldowns - 3x15-20 Lat Raise SS
3x8-12 Skullcrushers - 3x15-20 Lat Raise SS
4x8-12 1-arm Medicine Ball Slam - 4xF Plank SS

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I look like this at 5'11", 180 lbs. What should be my goal weight to be at the very least flat stomached? I was supposing 155 lbs.

Also. Is water fasting (with vitamins and electrolytes) a sound idea to reach that weight?

>>41330174
160 with any amount of muscle.

>>41330173
Looks fine. I can't imagine doing PPLx2 and then adding cardio on off days though, you're crazy.

>>41330232
This is the first time since I was 13 that I've been a NEET. I facilitated about 6 months off without any monetary concerns so I'm going nuts to the wall.

Dog run in the morning, cardio in the afternoon, routine at night and then I cap each one with 30m on the elliptical watching Netflix.

Iron Fist is the shit, by the way. Thanks for taking a look.

>>41330174
I would do intermittent fasting with maybe at most a 48 hour water fast a month.

>>41330248
>NEET
Okay that explains a little bit. I'm doing this routine, working 40 hours a week, and going to school. I'm at my wits end as is but gym comes before anything in my life now.

Good luck on the gains train and army. Try to score high on the ASVAB. Why the Army? You'd probably have a better life quality in the Chairforce.

>>41328737
>Dropped sugar all together
Nigga you better be watching everything you eat like a hawk. Nearly everything has added sugars.

>>41330290
Veterinary Corps. Doing a 3 year contract to pay for school then re-enlist as an Army Vet.

Facilitating life gains.

>>41328639
>tfw you were the biggest starting weight in the group. Fuck me man I never realized how bad it got.

>>41330311
Not bad. That's exactly what my buddy did, just the Chairforce route. Literally getting paid to go to college now and owns a home at 27. Pretty envious.

good morning fats, i'd join you on the losertown stuff but im just gonna keep doing my own thing on mfp, but good lucks

>>41330341
Until war hits and bye life? No thanks.

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>>41326265
GetSirius

>>41330276
I already do intermittent fasting like 23/1, but I just stock up all the hunger and unleash it with big ipercaloric meals. I would like to try the very long water fasts, like 3-7 days at once

>>41330211
I sure hope you are right.

>>41326223
I'm rewarding my 31lb weight loss with buying new clothes this weekend.
Though I still have 27~ pounds to go.

Would it be pointless to get new clothes now? Or should I wait until I hit my cut goal weight?

>>41330508
I did this to myself about 3 times.

Get like a few shirts and pants, but no more than like 3 shirts and 3 pairs of pants.

You'll be down another size in 2 months.

>>41330508
I'm just wearing my 2xl shirts still with some cheapy shirts thrown in.
Definitely get new pants if the belt has to many notches used, but I'd wait till you hit your goal weight to do serious shopping.

Walmart pants and shirts work for now.

Do you really burn 500ish calories an hour doing cycling? Just got back from a 2 hour ride. Knees are feeling it a bit, but other than that I feel fine. Barely ate anything today also.

There sure is a surprising about of girls here lurking.

>>41330569
no

it's literally impossible to accurately measure how many calories are burned through exercise. don't count them

Checked my scale, gained 11 lbs and I'm mortified. Ang tips on a mental state of mind to go about losing this? I often get hung up on self-loathing which drains my motivation, not increases it.

>>41330587

I hope for everyone's sake they stay lurking

>>41330569
Don't count calories via exercise. Ever.
Just do it as much as you possibly can and eat the minimum amount you can without killing yourself or feeling like shit.

I've been planning out my keto kickstart. is this mealplan sufficient? i can add more broccoli in to get more carbs if it's necessary.
breakfast

1 tblspoon butter
2 eggs
2 slices bacon
1/2 avocado

480 calories
fat: 43.5g
protein: 19g
carbs: 2g

lunch

1/2 bag of spinach+kale
1 chicken thigh
2 tbspn of mayo

385 calories
fat: 30g
protein: 20.5g
carb: 4.5

dinner

8oz 73/27 ground beef
1 cup broccoli

740 calories
fat: 60g
protein: 40g
carbs: 4g

total:
1605 calories
133.5g fat
79.5g protein
10.5g carbs

>>41330508
Your cloths will be to big in a month or two. Buy a hooker instead

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Megafat here, 6'1 340, I'm considering g going keto and walking and eventually moving on to lifting, is keto really a meme or will I see positive results?

>>41330686
I'm 2 weeks on keto, and I'm finding it easy because with so much fat I'm always full. I can deal with cravings, but can't deal with hunger, so I think it will work well for me.

>>41330686
at your size you'll lose just fine on regular calorie restriction, and it will be easier for you

>>41330607
>>41330626
Sounds good. That's been my general MO, I don't eat anything extra unless I feel really light headed

>>41330708
That's my exact problem, I don't drink sodas or even really enjoy sugary shit but I'm always hungry.
Pasta and pizza I just can't say fucking no to and always find myself over eating.
Thanks for the info friendo, gonna be buying a shit ton of chicken broccoli and eggs.

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>reading on keto
>Some people eat butter rubbed on to cheese as a snack
What the literal fuck

>>41330791
Disgusting

>>41330791
>he doesn't like cheesy butt rubs

not gonna make it

Good morning /fat/! Let's start the day with those good feels!

>didn't wake up during the night coughing and wheezing for breath

>>41330865
>free pizza at work
>didn't take any
>didn't buy lunch
Wew I lasted the day.

>>41330686
I have had a lot of success with keto, but you have to do it right or you will tend to over eat. Its not a magic bullet, it is still calories in calories out. I find myself struggling to get to 1200- 1400 calories a day because I feel so full.

>>41330325
Yeah but you're killing it now, babe.

We're all gonna make it.

>>41330791
It's almost like cutting a macronutrient out of your diet makes you eat dumb shit

>>41330791
It sounds gross but when you are on keto after a while, carby shit doesn't appetize you and you start craving fatty stuff.

>>41330895
Some people can view food purely as a fuel source while some need variety.

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Did anyone every make that discord server for fatties yet ?

>>41330055
Buy weights and lift at home. Try the thrift store if you're too poor to buy new shit.

>>41330931
We circlejerk enough as is here. Discord would be even worse.

>>41330947
Isn't a home real expensive and real big and tall?

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Powdered peanut butter has given me a reason to continue living.

>>41330947
>>41330974
*home gym, obviously, hurr durr

>>41330974
4u

>>41330979
it's pretty much a meme though. it's basically just a way to portion out smaller amounts of peanut butter

>>41330931
I can make one but really this >>41330955
Make a discord server and you'll see the threads die. Better to just keep us in here.

>>41330974
I only use dumbbells and a pulley machine, lad. Dumbbells aren't really that expensive, and they're all you really need.

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>>41330174
>Is water fasting (with vitamins and electrolytes) a sound idea to reach that weight?
Calories in-Calories out
It's not that hard and no it's not sound since it won't change your long term eating habits

>>41331039
Indeed. Losing weight permanently is a life change. Dieting for a certain time is shit if you want to keep it off. Portion/calorie control is key. I never really changed what I ate, just how much and how often. Obviously, this wouldn't apply if all you eat is sweets and fast food.

>>41330974
Not really
The amount of equipment you need isn't that much. As the other anon said, dumbbells will cover the vast majority of your needs and those aren't that bad price wise, you can even snag them off craigslist or ebay

Plus, comparing that cost to the long term cost of a gym membership stretched out over years

>>41330974
Not if you cut out all the shitty machinery that's not even as effective as basic exercises. You just need a sturdy-ass setup for pull-ups and chin-ups, dips, holding barbells for pressing, one decent machine for cardio and a few other things I can't name because I haven't even hit that point of my progress yet. One of the more experienced dudes can probably outline the essentials and the cruft to avoid.

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>>41330931

>>41331005
is right, I run two 4chan community specific discords both of which have goals and purposes for the anons involved, and the anons do in fact do shit, but at the same time shitpost the chats to death.
Now envsion how shitposty it would be with a bunch of /fit/izens posting their fat stomachs and broccoli cheese meals 24/7
tbf I'll probably cave and make one anyway

>>41330999
What are you talking about? The same volume of prepared powdered pb has like half the calories and just as much protein as normal pb.

I'm actually really excited to start keto.

>>41331074
Barbells take up a shit load of space, and you can get your fat ass outside for cardio. Truly, dumbbells and your own body weight are all you need.

Why doesn't the MFP website have a way to show your past week's calories like the app does?

This seems like such a dumb oversight.

I really want to get fast food. Chik fil a is calling my names. I can do the grilled chicken but the waffle fries are terrible for you

help

>>41331148
go for an 1h30m walk then go get them

>>41331093
I ran one from a general on /x/ and it's just not worth it imo. Even if /fat/ is among one of the nicer generals. Lets keep it in here.

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Before 315 pounds.

>>41331148
This >>41331209

I'm craving yoghurt so I'm gonna bike to my local store and back to get one; about a 4km round trip

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>>41331223
Current. 189 pounds

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>>41331251
>Pink phone case
You molested that little boy didn't you

>>41331251
looks like you de-aged 20 years

>>41331251
fug if getting to 190 makes me look that youthful and boyish I will be one happy man

>>41331290
also what he said

>>41331277
That's my brother and it's not my phone. I don't own a normie walkie talkie

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>>41331300
>it's not my phone

>>41331223
>>41331251
Holy shit dude. Congrats! Dem sexy eyes too. Get a decent haircut and you'll look amazing!
>>41331290
So much this. Late 30s to early 20s

>>41331309
It's legit not but I don't mind pink. It can be cute

>>41331209
>>41331229
Don't use exercise to justify/reward yourself with shit food. Eat shit food if you really want as long as it fits in your calories, but if you keep eating garbage it will stay normal for you to eat garbage.

>>41331362
Agreed. I almost had a burger instead of cooking because I wasn't gonna get home until close to midnight. Didn't though, and cooked up my mince and veggies. I understand to not use it as an excuse, but it's a nice mentality for me that if I want a treat, I need to work for it (treat being a banana, yoghurt, some pineapple, etc)

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I ate a pound of cottage cheese every day this week.

Buts only 440 calories so i can eat an entire pound for supper with broccoli on the side.

I don't think i like cottage cheese anymore

>>41331435
I can handle a serving at night but I would probably get weary eating a pound, the texture really gets to you after awhile

>>41331435
I like it with a kacket potato and salt, can eat a whole tub that way and potatoes dont have that many cals.

>>41331223
D-did you eat the kid?

I'm joshing, good work nigga

New thread?

>>41330161
That actually made me laugh, as someone who is a fat person as well as an employer

>Tfw it's true tho

>>41330626
Tfw when your fitbit is linked to your MFP and tells its you are burning 1500 to 2000 cals a day, so your graph shows nothing because it won't differentiate actual calories eaten vs imaginary super exaggerated negative calories from exercise

>skinnyfat former fatty
>went full Auschwitz no protein skeleton mode
>now too scared to eat even at maintenance while lifting due to the fat temporarily filling out my loose skin and going straight to my neck as well
The ride never ends.

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>>41326265
DropTheBase

I just reinstalled the app and started a new account because I couldn't remember my old info.
>Decided to log what I ate today
>Over by 233 cal
>Wasn't planning on eating again anyway

Does anyone know of an app that tracks macros and links with MFP? I just ordered my first food scale and really want to get serious about watching every little thing I put in my mouth. I've never tracked macros and have no idea how to go about doing that

>>41327025
>>41327025
https://sadchan.sytes.net/chat/int You can come here and chat it's a live chat site thing